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  Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-24 13:12 -0400
    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-24 18:29 +0000
      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-24 12:47 -0700
        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-24 16:25 -0400
          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-24 13:36 -0700
          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-24 13:49 -0700
            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-25 04:27 -0700
              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-25 08:01 -0400
                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 10:59 -0700
                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-25 11:08 -0700
                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 11:22 -0700
                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-25 14:49 -0400
                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-25 12:20 -0700
                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 13:14 -0700
                        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-25 22:24 +0100
                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 14:44 -0700
                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-25 22:50 +0100
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-25 18:11 -0400
                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 14:47 -0700
                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 07:04 -0500
                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 08:04 -0700
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-28 01:04 +0000
                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 08:51 -0700
                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-25 15:54 -0600
                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 15:02 -0700
                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 19:45 -0600
                        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 18:53 -0700
                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 19:47 -0700
                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-25 23:25 -0600
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 23:11 -0700
                        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 19:48 -0700
                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 18:15 -0700
                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 07:48 -0700
                        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-26 11:11 -0400
                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 09:17 -0700
                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-26 10:36 -0700
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 11:04 -0700
                                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-27 03:51 -0700
                                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-27 08:10 -0400
                                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-30 04:51 -0700
                                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 08:31 -0700
                                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-30 09:02 -0700
                                        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 09:19 -0700
                                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-30 09:44 -0700
                                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 10:02 -0700
                                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-30 11:19 -0700
                                                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 11:48 -0700
                                                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-30 13:23 -0700
                                                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 14:02 -0700
                                                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 13:27 -0700
                                                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 14:01 -0700
                                                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 14:53 -0700
                                                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-04 09:21 -0400
                                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 21:42 +0000
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 11:45 -0700
                                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 12:40 -0700
                                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-03-26 15:24 -0500
                                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-26 17:48 -0400
                                      Re: Chris AssStorm is a homoerotic version of Mr. Bean Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-26 18:00 -0400
                                        Re: Chris AssStorm is a homoerotic version of Mr. Bean Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-26 23:10 +0100
                                          Silly subject redacted Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-26 20:23 -0400
                                            Re: Silly subject redacted Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-26 20:46 -0400
                                            Re: Silly subject redacted GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-27 14:13 -0600
                                          Re: Chris AssStorm is a homoerotic version of Mr. Bean Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-26 20:44 -0400
                                          Re: Chris AssStorm is a homoerotic version of Mr. Bean GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-27 14:13 -0600
                                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 19:08 -0700
                                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 19:19 -0700
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-26 15:09 -0400
                                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 12:16 -0700
                                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 13:17 -0700
                              PDP-11 Unix and c began in 1972. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-03-26 19:00 -0700
                                Re: PDP-11 Unix and c began in 1972. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-27 14:10 -0600
                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 09:50 -0700
                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 10:57 -0700
                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-26 18:14 +0000
                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 11:46 -0700
                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 14:21 -0600
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-26 21:34 +0000
                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-27 13:59 -0400
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-27 18:41 +0000
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 10:20 -0700
                                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 11:21 -0700
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-04 09:33 -0400
                                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-04 09:47 -0400
                                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-04 10:16 -0400
                                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-04 16:33 -0600
                                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-04 15:56 -0700
                                        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-05 12:41 -0600
                                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-05 12:56 -0700
                                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-04-05 16:49 -0700
                                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-06 13:15 -0600
                                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-04 08:33 -0700
                                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-04 20:00 -0400
                                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-04 16:58 +0000
                                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-04 19:59 -0400
                                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-05 00:29 +0000
                                        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-04 20:47 -0400
                                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-05 00:59 +0000
                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 14:19 -0600
              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 10:31 -0700
                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-25 11:06 -0700
                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 11:21 -0700
                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-25 12:16 -0700
                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 13:17 -0700
            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-25 23:41 -0400
              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 20:52 -0700
                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 21:20 -0700
                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-26 04:44 -0700
                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 08:21 -0700
                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 14:16 -0600
                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 13:18 -0700
                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 08:54 -0700
                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-26 13:23 +0100
                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 07:39 -0500
                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 08:49 -0700
                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-26 20:14 +0100
                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-26 11:11 -0400
                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 08:55 -0700
                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-26 09:28 -0700
      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-24 13:07 -0700
        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-24 13:26 -0700
    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-24 11:51 -0700
      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-24 16:26 -0400
        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-24 13:52 -0700
          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-24 22:00 +0100
            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-24 15:30 -0700
          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-24 17:09 -0400
            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-24 15:43 -0700
            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 10:57 -0700
          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-25 23:42 -0400
            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 16:20 -0700
              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-26 19:12 -0600
              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-03-26 22:32 -0500
                Snit says cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'!?!? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-27 06:10 -0400
                  Re: Snit says cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'!?!? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-27 08:09 -0400
                    Re: Snit says cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'!?!? "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-27 09:02 -0400
                      Re: Snit says cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'!?!? GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-27 14:06 -0600
                  Re: Snit says cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'!?!? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-27 07:42 -0500
                    Re: Snit says cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'!?!? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-27 09:08 -0400
                      Re: Snit says cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'!?!? "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-27 09:26 -0400
                    Re: Snit says cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'!?!? GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-27 14:04 -0600
        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-24 14:41 -0700

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#286472

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2015-03-28 10:20 -0700
Message-ID<36a3924b-01be-48cc-91c6-09d64f5c4bf2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#286371
On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 12:00:12 PM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
> On 3/26/2015 2:14 PM, owl wrote:
> > DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> >> On 3/26/2015 10:48 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >
> >>> I appreciate the additional space that case sensitivity provides for
> >>> identifiers.
> >
> >> Fact is, it's incredibly ridiculous to allow two variables (or words, or
> >> file names, or folder names) to be spelled the same but mean something
> >> different or store something different because of the case of one letter.
> >
> >> recSet
> >> RecSet
> >> completely different cursor variables!
> >
> > RekSet
> 
> recSet is short for record set (the capital S is for readability)
> 
> RekSet short for record set?  I don't think so.
> 
> 
> 
> >> SLE-12-Desktop-DVD-x86_64-GM-DVD1.iso
> >> SLE-12-desktop-DVD-x86_64-GM-DVD1.iso
> >> completely different files!
> >
> > SLE-Twelve-Desktop-DVD-x86_64-GM-DVD1.iso
>   SLE-Twelve-desktop-DVD-x86_64-GM-DVD1.iso
> 
> completely different files!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >> trash
> >> Trash
> >> Completely different folders!
> >
> > Why not?  They have different names.
> 
> How can different names be spelled the same?

I still think your suggestion makes more sense for a file system.  Say you have an outfit that sells fowl internationally, one of your customers is Turkey and one of your products is turkey. If you want to, with case sensitivity, you're free to use those terms as is in your program. Most developers use some forms of casing convention anyway, so why not have it actually mean something? Only with case sensitivity do you get true enforcement of a convention, without it, you get the potential for ambiguity. I realize ambiguity is a thing that cuts both ways but case sensitivity enforces conventions for real. Additionally, what Ezekiel said regarding this aspect,  is true:

"Aside from a unusual personal preference, there's no technical advantage to 
being case insensitive. There are some technical advantages to being case 
sensitive. One example would be interfacing with existing languages (calling 
or being called from) that are already case sensitive. It's easier 
interfacing a (new) case sensitive language into a world that's dominated by 
other case sensitive languages." - Ezekiel

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/WNW-ksZRwo0/ZWUtHt_4tV0J

Due to this need to interface, these modern languages that blur the barrier between a 'scripting' language and a 'programming' language, adhere to the case sensitivity for the same reason that scripting languages do, performance. My apologies to hh, who had the good point on this (that I just glossed over when I responded to him earlier), he's spot on! I mistakenly assumed modern hardware negated it but the performance hit is actually pretty big so the advantage is definitely there. The reason isn't just 'historical', as has been claimed, it's actually sensical from a performance view and this may be (it probably is) the *main* motivation to continue.

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#286478

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2015-03-28 11:21 -0700
Message-ID<a67d62ff-5b8e-4dff-919e-eae5678c75e8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#286472
On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 11:20:24 AM UTC-6, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 12:00:12 PM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
> > On 3/26/2015 2:14 PM, owl wrote:
> > > DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> > >> On 3/26/2015 10:48 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > >
> > >>> I appreciate the additional space that case sensitivity provides for
> > >>> identifiers.
> > >
> > >> Fact is, it's incredibly ridiculous to allow two variables (or words, or
> > >> file names, or folder names) to be spelled the same but mean something
> > >> different or store something different because of the case of one letter.
> > >
> > >> recSet
> > >> RecSet
> > >> completely different cursor variables!
> > >
> > > RekSet
> > 
> > recSet is short for record set (the capital S is for readability)
> > 
> > RekSet short for record set?  I don't think so.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >> SLE-12-Desktop-DVD-x86_64-GM-DVD1.iso
> > >> SLE-12-desktop-DVD-x86_64-GM-DVD1.iso
> > >> completely different files!
> > >
> > > SLE-Twelve-Desktop-DVD-x86_64-GM-DVD1.iso
> >   SLE-Twelve-desktop-DVD-x86_64-GM-DVD1.iso
> > 
> > completely different files!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >> trash
> > >> Trash
> > >> Completely different folders!
> > >
> > > Why not?  They have different names.
> > 
> > How can different names be spelled the same?
> 
> I still think your suggestion makes more sense for a file system.  Say you have an outfit that sells fowl internationally, one of your customers is Turkey and one of your products is turkey. If you want to, with case sensitivity, you're free to use those terms as is in your program. 

P.S. Yes, I'm aware that you wouldn't necessarily put these terms in the same scope (you needn't, or wouldn't necessarily create objects or classes that way), I'm just trying to point out that, if you had a need to, you have the flexibility. Think of Hadron's example to Snit of the constructor function (where Snit missed his point), yes, I realize you'd probably number the objects but, again, it's about flexibility.

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#287840

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2015-04-04 09:33 -0400
Message-ID<mfop3t$h9o$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#286371
"DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in message news:mfoof1$ea3$2@dont-email.me...
> On 3/30/2015 2:19 PM, cc wrote:
>> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 1:03:03 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>>> On 3/30/15, 9:44 AM, in article
>>> 4920cd31-ac33-4384-a560-57cfa1536d68@googlegroups.com, "cc"
>>> <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is not harder for developers.
>>>
>>> But it requires more from them.
>>>
>>> What?
>>
>> It requires a compiler reporting an error. It doesn't require
>> anything additional from a developer.
>>
>> DFS is a VB programmer, and a good one from all accounts.
>
>
> Thanks for saying that.
>
> I was just OK, probably.  I spent a lot of time developing MS Access apps 
> (with Jet, Oracle and SQL Server backends) so I became a master at 
> manipulating data and controlling the Access (and Excel) environments with 
> VB and VBA.
>
>
> Like a lot of people, I often used camelCase variable names with a prefix 
> to identify the data type:
>

> iEmpCnt = integer var to count employees
> sSQL = string var to hold SQL statements

<quote>
Hungarian notation

The original Hungarian notation, which would now be called Apps Hungarian,
was invented by Charles Simonyi, a programmer who worked at Xerox PARC circa
1972-1981, and who later became Chief Architect at Microsoft.

In Hungarian notation, a variable name starts with a group of lower-case
letters which are mnemonics for the type or purpose of that variable,
followed by whatever name the programmer has chosen...

While the notation always uses initial lower-case letters as mnemonics, it
does not prescribe the mnemonics themselves. There are several widely used
conventions (see examples below), but any set of letters can be used, as
long as they are consistent within a given body of code.

  bBusy : boolean
  iSize : integer
  fpPrice: floating-point
  szLastName : zero-terminated string
</quote>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_notation




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#287843

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2015-04-04 09:47 -0400
Message-ID<mfopvl$k5p$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#287840
On 4/4/2015 9:33 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
> "DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in message news:mfoof1$ea3$2@dont-email.me...
>> On 3/30/2015 2:19 PM, cc wrote:
>>> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 1:03:03 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 3/30/15, 9:44 AM, in article
>>>> 4920cd31-ac33-4384-a560-57cfa1536d68@googlegroups.com, "cc"
>>>> <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is not harder for developers.
>>>>
>>>> But it requires more from them.
>>>>
>>>> What?
>>>
>>> It requires a compiler reporting an error. It doesn't require
>>> anything additional from a developer.
>>>
>>> DFS is a VB programmer, and a good one from all accounts.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for saying that.
>>
>> I was just OK, probably.  I spent a lot of time developing MS Access apps
>> (with Jet, Oracle and SQL Server backends) so I became a master at
>> manipulating data and controlling the Access (and Excel) environments with
>> VB and VBA.
>>
>>
>> Like a lot of people, I often used camelCase variable names with a prefix
>> to identify the data type:
>>
>
>> iEmpCnt = integer var to count employees
>> sSQL = string var to hold SQL statements
>
> <quote>
> Hungarian notation
>
> The original Hungarian notation, which would now be called Apps Hungarian,
> was invented by Charles Simonyi, a programmer who worked at Xerox PARC circa
> 1972-1981, and who later became Chief Architect at Microsoft.
>
> In Hungarian notation, a variable name starts with a group of lower-case
> letters which are mnemonics for the type or purpose of that variable,
> followed by whatever name the programmer has chosen...
>
> While the notation always uses initial lower-case letters as mnemonics, it
> does not prescribe the mnemonics themselves. There are several widely used
> conventions (see examples below), but any set of letters can be used, as
> long as they are consistent within a given body of code.
>
>    bBusy : boolean
>    iSize : integer
>    fpPrice: floating-point
>    szLastName : zero-terminated string
> </quote>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_notation



"vUsing adjHungarian nnotation vmakes nreading ncode adjdifficult."

ha!

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/111933/why-shouldnt-i-use-hungarian-notation



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#287847

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2015-04-04 10:16 -0400
Message-ID<mform6$r7q$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#287843
"DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in message news:mfopvl$k5p$4@dont-email.me...
> On 4/4/2015 9:33 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
>> "DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in message 
>> news:mfoof1$ea3$2@dont-email.me...
>>> On 3/30/2015 2:19 PM, cc wrote:
>>>> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 1:03:03 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On 3/30/15, 9:44 AM, in article
>>>>> 4920cd31-ac33-4384-a560-57cfa1536d68@googlegroups.com, "cc"
>>>>> <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is not harder for developers.
>>>>>
>>>>> But it requires more from them.
>>>>>
>>>>> What?
>>>>
>>>> It requires a compiler reporting an error. It doesn't require
>>>> anything additional from a developer.
>>>>
>>>> DFS is a VB programmer, and a good one from all accounts.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for saying that.
>>>
>>> I was just OK, probably.  I spent a lot of time developing MS Access 
>>> apps
>>> (with Jet, Oracle and SQL Server backends) so I became a master at
>>> manipulating data and controlling the Access (and Excel) environments 
>>> with
>>> VB and VBA.
>>>
>>>
>>> Like a lot of people, I often used camelCase variable names with a 
>>> prefix
>>> to identify the data type:
>>>
>>
>>> iEmpCnt = integer var to count employees
>>> sSQL = string var to hold SQL statements
>>
>> <quote>
>> Hungarian notation
>>
>> The original Hungarian notation, which would now be called Apps 
>> Hungarian,
>> was invented by Charles Simonyi, a programmer who worked at Xerox PARC 
>> circa
>> 1972-1981, and who later became Chief Architect at Microsoft.
>>
>> In Hungarian notation, a variable name starts with a group of lower-case
>> letters which are mnemonics for the type or purpose of that variable,
>> followed by whatever name the programmer has chosen...
>>
>> While the notation always uses initial lower-case letters as mnemonics, 
>> it
>> does not prescribe the mnemonics themselves. There are several widely 
>> used
>> conventions (see examples below), but any set of letters can be used, as
>> long as they are consistent within a given body of code.
>>
>>    bBusy : boolean
>>    iSize : integer
>>    fpPrice: floating-point
>>    szLastName : zero-terminated string
>> </quote>
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_notation
>
>
>
> "vUsing adjHungarian nnotation vmakes nreading ncode adjdifficult."
>
> ha!
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/111933/why-shouldnt-i-use-hungarian-notation
>

Best answer on that page IMO.

    "Then who cares what anybody else thinks? If you find it useful, then 
use the notation."

I use it in my code unless I'm working in another file/project where it's 
not being used.

m_  = member variable of a class
s_  = static variable/member

iInteger
arArray
tblHashTable
bBool




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#287885

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2015-04-04 16:33 -0600
Message-ID<SLWdnWKFjbxR-73InZ2dnUU7-VGdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#287847
Ezekiel wrote:

> 
> "DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in message news:mfopvl$k5p$4@dont-email.me...
>> On 4/4/2015 9:33 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>> "DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in message
>>> news:mfoof1$ea3$2@dont-email.me...
>>>> On 3/30/2015 2:19 PM, cc wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 1:03:03 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/30/15, 9:44 AM, in article
>>>>>> 4920cd31-ac33-4384-a560-57cfa1536d68@googlegroups.com, "cc"
>>>>>> <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is not harder for developers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But it requires more from them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What?
>>>>>
>>>>> It requires a compiler reporting an error. It doesn't require
>>>>> anything additional from a developer.
>>>>>
>>>>> DFS is a VB programmer, and a good one from all accounts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for saying that.
>>>>
>>>> I was just OK, probably.  I spent a lot of time developing MS Access
>>>> apps
>>>> (with Jet, Oracle and SQL Server backends) so I became a master at
>>>> manipulating data and controlling the Access (and Excel) environments
>>>> with
>>>> VB and VBA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Like a lot of people, I often used camelCase variable names with a
>>>> prefix
>>>> to identify the data type:
>>>>
>>>
>>>> iEmpCnt = integer var to count employees
>>>> sSQL = string var to hold SQL statements
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Hungarian notation
>>>
>>> The original Hungarian notation, which would now be called Apps
>>> Hungarian,
>>> was invented by Charles Simonyi, a programmer who worked at Xerox PARC
>>> circa
>>> 1972-1981, and who later became Chief Architect at Microsoft.
>>>
>>> In Hungarian notation, a variable name starts with a group of lower-case
>>> letters which are mnemonics for the type or purpose of that variable,
>>> followed by whatever name the programmer has chosen...
>>>
>>> While the notation always uses initial lower-case letters as mnemonics,
>>> it
>>> does not prescribe the mnemonics themselves. There are several widely
>>> used
>>> conventions (see examples below), but any set of letters can be used, as
>>> long as they are consistent within a given body of code.
>>>
>>>    bBusy : boolean
>>>    iSize : integer
>>>    fpPrice: floating-point
>>>    szLastName : zero-terminated string
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_notation
>>
>>
>>
>> "vUsing adjHungarian nnotation vmakes nreading ncode adjdifficult."
>>
>> ha!
>>
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/111933/why-shouldnt-i-use-hungarian-
notation
>>
> 
> Best answer on that page IMO.
> 
>     "Then who cares what anybody else thinks? If you find it useful, then
> use the notation."
> 
> I use it in my code unless I'm working in another file/project where it's
> not being used.
> 
> m_  = member variable of a class
> s_  = static variable/member
> 
> iInteger
> arArray
> tblHashTable
> bBool

Makes a lot of sense to me.

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#287886

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-04-04 15:56 -0700
Message-ID<D145BA21.49977%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#287885
On 4/4/15, 3:33 PM, in article SLWdnWKFjbxR-73InZ2dnUU7-VGdnZ2d@bresnan.com,
"GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:

>> Best answer on that page IMO.
>> 
>>     "Then who cares what anybody else thinks? If you find it useful, then
>> use the notation."
>> 
>> I use it in my code unless I'm working in another file/project where it's
>> not being used.
>> 
>> m_  = member variable of a class
>> s_  = static variable/member
>> 
>> iInteger
>> arArray
>> tblHashTable
>> bBool
> 
> Makes a lot of sense to me.

But I could not do this will all caps, so it would not work in a case
insensitive language.

:)

[Yes, I know some troll will copy and paste that without the smiley and ask
me to explain it in five years and if I do not insist there was a time limit
on my lie / error / whatever... ]



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#287944

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2015-04-05 12:41 -0600
Message-ID<08KdnctwX79THLzInZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#287886
Snit wrote:

> On 4/4/15, 3:33 PM, in article
> SLWdnWKFjbxR-73InZ2dnUU7-VGdnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud"
> <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Best answer on that page IMO.
>>> 
>>>     "Then who cares what anybody else thinks? If you find it useful,
>>>     then
>>> use the notation."
>>> 
>>> I use it in my code unless I'm working in another file/project where
>>> it's not being used.
>>> 
>>> m_  = member variable of a class
>>> s_  = static variable/member
>>> 
>>> iInteger
>>> arArray
>>> tblHashTable
>>> bBool
>> 
>> Makes a lot of sense to me.
> 
> But I could not do this will all caps, so it would not work in a case
> insensitive language.
> 

Maybe you couldn't, but I could.  M_VARIABLE, S_VARIABLE, ETC.
Even fortran could handle that one.

> :)
> 
> [Yes, I know some troll will copy and paste that without the smiley and
> [ask
> me to explain it in five years and if I do not insist there was a time
> limit on my lie / error / whatever... ]
> 
> 
> 

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#287951

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-04-05 12:56 -0700
Message-ID<D146E18C.499C8%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#287944
On 4/5/15, 11:41 AM, in article
08KdnctwX79THLzInZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com>
wrote:

> Snit wrote:
> 
>> On 4/4/15, 3:33 PM, in article
>> SLWdnWKFjbxR-73InZ2dnUU7-VGdnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud"
>> <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Best answer on that page IMO.
>>>> 
>>>>     "Then who cares what anybody else thinks? If you find it useful,
>>>>     then
>>>> use the notation."
>>>> 
>>>> I use it in my code unless I'm working in another file/project where
>>>> it's not being used.
>>>> 
>>>> m_  = member variable of a class
>>>> s_  = static variable/member
>>>> 
>>>> iInteger
>>>> arArray
>>>> tblHashTable
>>>> bBool
>>> 
>>> Makes a lot of sense to me.
>> 
>> But I could not do this will all caps, so it would not work in a case
>> insensitive language.
> 
> Maybe you couldn't, but I could.  M_VARIABLE, S_VARIABLE, ETC.
> Even fortran could handle that one.

LOL! Fair enough. :)

>> :)
>> 
>> [Yes, I know some troll will copy and paste that without the smiley and [ask
>> me to explain it in five years and if I do not insist there was a time limit
>> on my lie / error / whatever... ]
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 



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#287961

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2015-04-05 16:49 -0700
Message-ID<d9e624f6-59a6-4be8-ad5b-023efa76a4e1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#287944
Greycloud wrote:
> Snit wrote: 
>>GreyCloud"  wrote: 
>>> 
>>> I use it in my code unless I'm working in another file/project where 
>>> it's not being used. 
>>> 
>>> m_  = member variable of a class 
>>> s_  = static variable/member 
>>> 
>>> iInteger 
>>> arArray 
>>> tblHashTable 
>>> bBool 
> 
>> But I could not do this will all caps, so it would not work in a case 
>> insensitive language. 
> 
> Maybe you couldn't, but I could.  M_VARIABLE, S_VARIABLE, ETC. 
> Even fortran could handle that one. 

Within some limits in Fortran...if memory serves, there was a range of
first characters which dictated integer vs real, etc.

-hh

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#288069

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2015-04-06 13:15 -0600
Message-ID<N-adnd_15Oj4Rr_InZ2dnUU7-U-dnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#287961
-hh wrote:

> Greycloud wrote:
>> Snit wrote:
>>>GreyCloud"  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I use it in my code unless I'm working in another file/project where
>>>> it's not being used.
>>>> 
>>>> m_  = member variable of a class
>>>> s_  = static variable/member
>>>> 
>>>> iInteger
>>>> arArray
>>>> tblHashTable
>>>> bBool
>> 
>>> But I could not do this will all caps, so it would not work in a case
>>> insensitive language.
>> 
>> Maybe you couldn't, but I could.  M_VARIABLE, S_VARIABLE, ETC.
>> Even fortran could handle that one.
> 
> Within some limits in Fortran...if memory serves, there was a range of
> first characters which dictated integer vs real, etc.
> 

Yes, if you first use 'IMPLICIT REAL (A-H,O-Z)
By default, I thru N are INTEGER.  But that can also be overridden by 
declaring their type in the beginning:  INTEGER Z,A... etc.

Meaningful names in a program are important and make it easier to follow the 
program idea.  Old Fortran had a limitation back then of only 5 characters 
for a variable name.

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#287851

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2015-04-04 08:33 -0700
Message-ID<23032365-d083-4ff8-88df-7164bc0b0f16@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#287843
On Saturday, April 4, 2015 at 7:47:25 AM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
> On 4/4/2015 9:33 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
> > "DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in message news:mfoof1$ea3$2@dont-email.me...
> >> On 3/30/2015 2:19 PM, cc wrote:
> >>> On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 1:03:03 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
> >>>> On 3/30/15, 9:44 AM, in article
> >>>> 4920cd31-ac33-4384-a560-57cfa1536d68@googlegroups.com, "cc"
> >>>> <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is not harder for developers.
> >>>>
> >>>> But it requires more from them.
> >>>>
> >>>> What?
> >>>
> >>> It requires a compiler reporting an error. It doesn't require
> >>> anything additional from a developer.
> >>>
> >>> DFS is a VB programmer, and a good one from all accounts.
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for saying that.
> >>
> >> I was just OK, probably.  I spent a lot of time developing MS Access apps
> >> (with Jet, Oracle and SQL Server backends) so I became a master at
> >> manipulating data and controlling the Access (and Excel) environments with
> >> VB and VBA.
> >>
> >>
> >> Like a lot of people, I often used camelCase variable names with a prefix
> >> to identify the data type:
> >>
> >
> >> iEmpCnt = integer var to count employees
> >> sSQL = string var to hold SQL statements
> >
> > <quote>
> > Hungarian notation
> >
> > The original Hungarian notation, which would now be called Apps Hungarian,
> > was invented by Charles Simonyi, a programmer who worked at Xerox PARC circa
> > 1972-1981, and who later became Chief Architect at Microsoft.
> >
> > In Hungarian notation, a variable name starts with a group of lower-case
> > letters which are mnemonics for the type or purpose of that variable,
> > followed by whatever name the programmer has chosen...
> >
> > While the notation always uses initial lower-case letters as mnemonics, it
> > does not prescribe the mnemonics themselves. There are several widely used
> > conventions (see examples below), but any set of letters can be used, as
> > long as they are consistent within a given body of code.
> >
> >    bBusy : boolean
> >    iSize : integer
> >    fpPrice: floating-point
> >    szLastName : zero-terminated string
> > </quote>
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_notation
> 
> 
> 
> "vUsing adjHungarian nnotation vmakes nreading ncode adjdifficult."
> 
> ha!
> 
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/111933/why-shouldnt-i-use-hungarian-notation

http://codingthriller.blogspot.com/2007/11/rediscovering-hungarian-notation.html

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#287893

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2015-04-04 20:00 -0400
Message-ID<mfptt1$q7k$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#287851
On 4/4/2015 11:33 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:


> http://codingthriller.blogspot.com/2007/11/rediscovering-hungarian-notation.html


Good article.

Thanks.

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#287869

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-04-04 16:58 +0000
Message-ID<hgi3.apx7@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#287843
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

> "vUsing adjHungarian nnotation vmakes nreading ncode adjdifficult."

"gUsing ... greading..."

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#287891

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2015-04-04 19:59 -0400
Message-ID<mfptr6$q7k$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#287869
On 4/4/2015 12:58 PM, owl wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>
>> "vUsing adjHungarian nnotation vmakes nreading ncode adjdifficult."
>
> "gUsing ... greading..."
>


uh oh... someone read the stack overflow thread then came to cola and 
pretended he knew what a gerund was.

owling: to pretend one knows what a gerund is

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#287894

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-04-05 00:29 +0000
Message-ID<nvhdjg803.a3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#287891
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 4/4/2015 12:58 PM, owl wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "vUsing adjHungarian nnotation vmakes nreading ncode adjdifficult."
>>
>> "gUsing ... greading..."
>>


> uh oh... someone read the stack overflow thread then came to cola and 
> pretended he knew what a gerund was.

What stack overflow thread was that?

> owling: to pretend one knows what a gerund is

I take it you were pretending you didn't when you wrote "vUsing...
nreading..."?

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#287896

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2015-04-04 20:47 -0400
Message-ID<mfq0le$21n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#287894
On 4/4/2015 8:29 PM, owl wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 4/4/2015 12:58 PM, owl wrote:
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "vUsing adjHungarian nnotation vmakes nreading ncode adjdifficult."
>>>
>>> "gUsing ... greading..."
>>>
>
>
>> uh oh... someone read the stack overflow thread then came to cola and
>> pretended he knew what a gerund was.
>
> What stack overflow thread was that?

The one I posted that you read that pointed out using and reading were 
gerunds.



>> owling: to pretend one knows what a gerund is
>
> I take it you were pretending you didn't when you wrote "vUsing...
> nreading..."?

I didn't write that.  It was a quote from the stack overflow thread you 
read.



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#287899

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-04-05 00:59 +0000
Message-ID<bvhfu0.a4fp@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#287896
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 4/4/2015 8:29 PM, owl wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/4/2015 12:58 PM, owl wrote:
>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "vUsing adjHungarian nnotation vmakes nreading ncode adjdifficult."
>>>>
>>>> "gUsing ... greading..."
>>>>
>>
>>
>>> uh oh... someone read the stack overflow thread then came to cola and
>>> pretended he knew what a gerund was.
>>
>> What stack overflow thread was that?

> The one I posted that you read that pointed out using and reading were 
> gerunds.

Sorry.  Missed that one.

>>> owling: to pretend one knows what a gerund is
>>
>> I take it you were pretending you didn't when you wrote "vUsing...
>> nreading..."?

> I didn't write that.

OK. 

> It was a quote from the stack overflow thread you 
> read.

I still don't know what you're talking about.

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#286288

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2015-03-26 14:19 -0600
Message-ID<cdidna1yQ4NN9InInZ2dnUU7-amdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#286226
DFS wrote:

> On 3/26/2015 10:48 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
>> I appreciate the additional space that case sensitivity provides for
>> identifiers.
> 
> Fact is, it's incredibly ridiculous to allow two variables (or words, or
> file names, or folder names) to be spelled the same but mean something
> different or store something different because of the case of one letter.
> 
> recSet
> RecSet
> completely different cursor variables!
> 
> 
> SLE-12-Desktop-DVD-x86_64-GM-DVD1.iso
> SLE-12-desktop-DVD-x86_64-GM-DVD1.iso
> completely different files!
> 
> 
> trash
> Trash
> Completely different folders!
> 
> 
> Case-insensitive and case-preserving is the best (like Windows and VB
> does it).
> 
> 

This was also the case for VMS a long time ago as well.
It was less agravating when sitting at a terminal and make one typo mistake 
trying to change to another directory, like it was on the older UNIX 
systems.

> (Quiz: how many case-variations of the spelling of 'trash' are allowed
> when creating folders in Linux?  In Windows?  No fair referring to
> wikipedia or any other reference)

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#285952

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-03-25 10:31 -0700
Message-ID<D1383F1E.49086%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#285906
On 3/25/15, 4:27 AM, in article
d1138f6c-86f3-4eff-86a5-f5ea43b0bee9@googlegroups.com, "cc"
<scatnubbs@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>>> At the time the "advocates" and others were trying to catch me in an error.
>>>> They were asking me questions on all sorts of things. Or maybe it was some
>>>> non-advocates.
>>>> 
>>>> Who the hell knows. It was years ago.
>>> 
>>> It was 8 months ago.
>> 
>> Ah, found it. Yeah, it was when cc and some others were begging me to
>> explain the basics of Objective-C and Swift and the like even though I am
>> not a programmer.
> 
> Horseshit. No one asked you to explain anything. We were explaining it
> to you. You're really racking up the lies lately.

You repeatedly begged me to explain things about the languages to you. You
kept asking me about case sensitivity, why Apple would move to a new
language and not just add more to an old, why they allowed old code to be
used with the new language, and more.

You also, as you do so frequently, just flat out made up things about my
views as you worked to sound knowledgeable about things you are completely
ignorant about. 

And, no, not digging through the thread to find specific examples. Just
don't care. Go live in the past with your favorite co-troll.



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