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  OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 21:53 -0700
    Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-13 12:47 +0000
      Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 08:11 -0700
        Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 09:18 -0700
        Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-13 18:36 +0000
          Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 14:41 -0400
            Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 12:01 -0700
            Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-13 17:30 -0400
              Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 15:00 -0700
              Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 18:23 -0400
                Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 01:30 +0200
                  Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 16:39 -0700
                  Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 20:26 -0400
                    Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 17:43 -0700
                    Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-14 15:08 -0500
                      Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 13:44 -0700
                      Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-14 20:44 -0400
                        Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 23:14 -0400
                Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 16:31 -0700
                Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 09:07 -0400
                  Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 08:37 -0700
              Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-13 23:38 +0000
                Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 16:55 -0700
                  Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-14 00:30 +0000
                    Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 17:46 -0700
                Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 09:09 -0400
                  Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 08:36 -0700
                    Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 17:41 +0200
                      Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 08:49 -0700
                        Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 14:32 -0700
                  Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-14 23:00 +0000
                    Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-15 01:10 +0200
                      Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 16:51 -0700
                    Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 19:11 -0400
                      Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-14 23:24 +0000
                        Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-14 19:34 -0400
                          Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 16:54 -0700
                        Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 16:51 -0700
                        Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 20:04 -0400
                          Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 17:15 -0700
                          Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 20:30 -0400
                            Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 17:35 -0700
                              Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-15 01:07 +0000
                                Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 18:16 -0700
                                  Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-15 01:41 +0000
                                    Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-14 21:48 -0400
                                      Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 18:52 -0700
                                      Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 23:09 -0400
                                        Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 20:17 -0700
                                      Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-15 12:31 +0000
                                        Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 14:51 +0200
                                          Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 09:15 -0400
                                            Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 16:55 -0700
                                          Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-15 13:25 +0000
                                            Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 16:55 -0700
                                          Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 16:53 -0700
                                        Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 09:13 -0400
                                          Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-15 13:32 +0000
                                            Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 10:46 -0400
                                              Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 08:27 -0700
                                            Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 16:57 -0700
                                          Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 16:55 -0700
                                        Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:01 -0700
                                    Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 18:49 -0700
                            Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-14 23:07 -0400
                              Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 20:27 -0700
                              Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 08:53 -0400
                                Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:14 -0700
                    Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 16:52 -0700
          Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 11:42 -0700
            Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-13 19:01 +0000
              Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 12:12 -0700
                Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-13 19:27 +0000
                  Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 12:42 -0700
                    Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-13 19:48 +0000
                      Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 13:05 -0700
                        Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-13 20:15 +0000
                          Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 13:28 -0700
                            Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-13 20:43 +0000
                              Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 13:57 -0700
                                Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-13 21:09 +0000
                                  Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 14:12 -0700
                                    Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-13 21:17 +0000
                                      Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 14:22 -0700
                                        Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-13 23:45 +0000
                                          Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 16:54 -0700
                                            Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-14 00:03 +0000
                                              Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 17:10 -0700
                                                Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-14 00:20 +0000
                                                  Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 17:29 -0700
                                          Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 20:30 -0400
                                            Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 17:44 -0700
                      Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 17:55 -0400
                        Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 15:05 -0700
          Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 22:03 +0200
            Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 13:06 -0700
              Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-13 20:14 +0000
                Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 13:27 -0700
                Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 18:01 -0400
                  Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 15:02 -0700
            Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2014-05-13 20:10 +0000
              Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 13:27 -0700
            Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-13 17:59 -0400
              Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-13 15:03 -0700
      Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-13 09:17 -0700
    Re: OT: Sandy Hook "Truther" - what is wrong with people? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-14 09:18 -0700

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#243496

Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 5/13/14, 1:43 PM, in article hgje90.a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/13/14, 1:15 PM, in article hgue00.a34@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>>> For what? For the fact you push insane conspiracy nonsense?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I see.  Your response to a request for evidence to support your bullshit
>>>>>> theories is simply to decline to provide that evidence.  No surprise
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>> (And no suprise that you support Obama).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Evidence for what? You already provided the proof that you are pushing an
>>>>> insane conspiracy theory... you already provided the proof you are utter
>>>>> scum who backs people who abuse mourning parents. I mean, really, how
>>>>> stupid
>>>>> can you be to need "support" for your own posts from *today*!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or maybe you want proof that Sandy Hook happened... as if that is in
>>>>> question? It is not. If you want to pretend it is you have to show
>>>>> evidence... extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence. If you really
>>>>> need evidence *again* about Sandy Hook I can point you to, literally,
>>>>> dozens
>>>>> if not hundreds of news stories about it.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So in your mind a news story constitutes evidence?
>>> 
>>> The overwhelming mass of evidence with *nothing* to suggest it is in any way
>>> significantly wrong is one thing you are missing.
>> 
>> What mass of evidence?  "News stories"?  Like this?
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B6lkischer_Beobachter
>> 
>> 
> The mass of evidence that has been, well, everywhere. I already showed you
> pictures and names... and explained why it would take thousands upon
> thousands of people to push the type of insane conspiracy nonsense you push.
> You do not care. You only care that you do not have to deal with a "random"
> world where bad things happen in ways you cannot predict or explain.
> 
> So be it: you do not care about logic and reason and rationality.
> 

Still no evidence from you.  As expected, just pyschobabble.  Tell it
to Oprah.


 

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#243497

On 5/13/14, 2:09 PM, in article hgue803.a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>>>> The overwhelming mass of evidence with *nothing* to suggest it is in any
>>>> way
>>>> significantly wrong is one thing you are missing.
>>> 
>>> What mass of evidence?  "News stories"?  Like this?
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B6lkischer_Beobachter
>>> 
>>> 
>> The mass of evidence that has been, well, everywhere. I already showed you
>> pictures and names... and explained why it would take thousands upon
>> thousands of people to push the type of insane conspiracy nonsense you push.
>> You do not care. You only care that you do not have to deal with a "random"
>> world where bad things happen in ways you cannot predict or explain.
>> 
>> So be it: you do not care about logic and reason and rationality.
>> 
> 
> Still no evidence from you.  As expected, just pyschobabble.  Tell it
> to Oprah.

Evidence of what? Your own conspiracy theory spewing nonsense? How much
proof of your own posts do you need? Really... what the hell are you even
asking for? 

Bottom line: you do not know. You are just getting irked that I have called
you out on what you are - a conspiracy nut with no evidence who shuns
reasons and logic to *feel* better about yourself.

Go on and deny the Holocaust and 9/11 and Sandy Hook and anything else you
want... it makes you feel in control of your world and "special" because you
know what rational people do not. But do not expect me to pretend you are
anything other than what you are: a conspiracy nut with *nothing* to support
your BS. Not a word.


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#243498

Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 5/13/14, 2:09 PM, in article hgue803.a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>>>> The overwhelming mass of evidence with *nothing* to suggest it is in any
>>>>> way
>>>>> significantly wrong is one thing you are missing.
>>>> 
>>>> What mass of evidence?  "News stories"?  Like this?
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B6lkischer_Beobachter
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> The mass of evidence that has been, well, everywhere. I already showed you
>>> pictures and names... and explained why it would take thousands upon
>>> thousands of people to push the type of insane conspiracy nonsense you push.
>>> You do not care. You only care that you do not have to deal with a "random"
>>> world where bad things happen in ways you cannot predict or explain.
>>> 
>>> So be it: you do not care about logic and reason and rationality.
>>> 
>> 
>> Still no evidence from you.  As expected, just pyschobabble.  Tell it
>> to Oprah.
> 
> Evidence of what?

Evidence that the government propaganda storyline is true.

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#243499

On 5/13/14, 2:17 PM, in article gjdy03.a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 5/13/14, 2:09 PM, in article hgue803.a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> The overwhelming mass of evidence with *nothing* to suggest it is in any
>>>>>> way
>>>>>> significantly wrong is one thing you are missing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What mass of evidence?  "News stories"?  Like this?
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B6lkischer_Beobachter
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> The mass of evidence that has been, well, everywhere. I already showed you
>>>> pictures and names... and explained why it would take thousands upon
>>>> thousands of people to push the type of insane conspiracy nonsense you
>>>> push.
>>>> You do not care. You only care that you do not have to deal with a "random"
>>>> world where bad things happen in ways you cannot predict or explain.
>>>> 
>>>> So be it: you do not care about logic and reason and rationality.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Still no evidence from you.  As expected, just pyschobabble.  Tell it
>>> to Oprah.
>> 
>> Evidence of what?
> 
> Evidence that the government propaganda storyline is true.
> 
What government propaganda? Remember, your nonsense makes *no* sense unless
you accept your emotion-based conspiracy nonsense.

Are you asking for evidence of the actual event? If so it is trivial to
find! Here, lots of links that took me mere moments to find. I could get you
literally hundreds of others... but you have an *emotional* attachment to
your whacked out conspiracy nonsense where you deny the Holocaust, 9/11, the
Sandy Hook shooting, and anything else that makes you *feel* good.

Anyway, proof for you to ignore and insist is all part of your conspiracy
theory that would take thousands upon thousands of people to push:

<http://abcnews.go.com/US/photos/photos-sandy-hook-elementary-school-shootin
g-17974409/image-18130140>
<http://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting>
<http://sandyhookresearch.blogspot.com/>
<http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/28/us/connecticut-shooting-documents/>
<http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2012/12/us/sandy-hook-timeline/>
<http://www.courant.com/topic/crime-law-justice/crime/shootings/sandy-hook-e
lementary-school-shooting-EVCAL00028.topic>
<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother-mental-ill
ness-conversation_n_2311009.html>
<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/11/sandy-hook-hoax-theories-explained
-debunking-newtown-truther_n_2627233.html?utm_hp_ref=sandy-hook-elementary-s
chool-shooting>
<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/10/peter-lanza-interview-adam-lanza_n
_4933912.html>
<http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/03/17/140317fa_fact_solomon?current
Page=all>
<http://www.npr.org/2014/03/13/289815818/6-interviews-1-reckoning-sandy-hook
-killers-dad-breaks-silence>
<http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/nyregion/shooting-reported-at-connecticut
-elementary-school.html?pagewanted=all>
<http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/sandyhook.asp>
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sandy-hook-elementary-school-shootin
g-leaves-students-staff-dead/2012/12/14/24334570-461e-11e2-8e70-e1993528222d
_story.html>




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#243541

Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 5/13/14, 2:17 PM, in article gjdy03.a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/13/14, 2:09 PM, in article hgue803.a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>>> The overwhelming mass of evidence with *nothing* to suggest it is in any
>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>> significantly wrong is one thing you are missing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What mass of evidence?  "News stories"?  Like this?
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B6lkischer_Beobachter
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> The mass of evidence that has been, well, everywhere. I already showed you
>>>>> pictures and names... and explained why it would take thousands upon
>>>>> thousands of people to push the type of insane conspiracy nonsense you
>>>>> push.
>>>>> You do not care. You only care that you do not have to deal with a "random"
>>>>> world where bad things happen in ways you cannot predict or explain.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So be it: you do not care about logic and reason and rationality.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Still no evidence from you.  As expected, just pyschobabble.  Tell it
>>>> to Oprah.
>>> 
>>> Evidence of what?
>> 
>> Evidence that the government propaganda storyline is true.
>> 
> What government propaganda? Remember, your nonsense makes *no* sense unless
> you accept your emotion-based conspiracy nonsense.
> 
> Are you asking for evidence of the actual event? If so it is trivial to
> find! Here, lots of links that took me mere moments to find. I could get you
> literally hundreds of others... but you have an *emotional* attachment to
> your whacked out conspiracy nonsense where you deny the Holocaust, 9/11, the
> Sandy Hook shooting, and anything else that makes you *feel* good.
> 
> Anyway, proof for you to ignore and insist is all part of your conspiracy
> theory that would take thousands upon thousands of people to push:
> 
> <http://abcnews.go.com/US/photos/photos-sandy-hook-elementary-school-shootin
> g-17974409/image-18130140>
> <http://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting>
> <http://sandyhookresearch.blogspot.com/>


LOL!  Do you even read the articles you link to?

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#243543

On 5/13/14, 4:45 PM, in article gneu0.a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>>> Evidence that the government propaganda storyline is true.
>>> 
>> What government propaganda? Remember, your nonsense makes *no* sense unless
>> you accept your emotion-based conspiracy nonsense.
>> 
>> Are you asking for evidence of the actual event? If so it is trivial to
>> find! Here, lots of links that took me mere moments to find. I could get you
>> literally hundreds of others... but you have an *emotional* attachment to
>> your whacked out conspiracy nonsense where you deny the Holocaust, 9/11, the
>> Sandy Hook shooting, and anything else that makes you *feel* good.
>> 
>> Anyway, proof for you to ignore and insist is all part of your conspiracy
>> theory that would take thousands upon thousands of people to push:
>> 
>> <http://abcnews.go.com/US/photos/photos-sandy-hook-elementary-school-shootin
>> g-17974409/image-18130140>
>> <http://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting>
>> <http://sandyhookresearch.blogspot.com/>
> 
> 
> LOL!  Do you even read the articles you link to?

Did you? Of course not: all you are interested in is denying the deaths of
many people and offending those who loved them because you want to feel
special. You are a sick, sick man.


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#243548

Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 5/13/14, 4:45 PM, in article gneu0.a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>>> Evidence that the government propaganda storyline is true.
>>>> 
>>> What government propaganda? Remember, your nonsense makes *no* sense unless
>>> you accept your emotion-based conspiracy nonsense.
>>> 
>>> Are you asking for evidence of the actual event? If so it is trivial to
>>> find! Here, lots of links that took me mere moments to find. I could get you
>>> literally hundreds of others... but you have an *emotional* attachment to
>>> your whacked out conspiracy nonsense where you deny the Holocaust, 9/11, the
>>> Sandy Hook shooting, and anything else that makes you *feel* good.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, proof for you to ignore and insist is all part of your conspiracy
>>> theory that would take thousands upon thousands of people to push:
>>> 
>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/US/photos/photos-sandy-hook-elementary-school-shootin
>>> g-17974409/image-18130140>
>>> <http://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/>
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting>
>>> <http://sandyhookresearch.blogspot.com/>
>> 
>> 
>> LOL!  Do you even read the articles you link to?
> 
> Did you? Of course not: all you are interested in is denying the deaths of
> many people and offending those who loved them because you want to feel
> special. You are a sick, sick man.
> 

So you stand by the following?  Or did you *still* not read this article
you linked to:

<http://sandyhookresearch.blogspot.com/>
<quote>
This shows the Sandy Hook Shooting Could not have happened as the
government and media have portrayed it to happen. We NEED Truth! People
in forums, on blogs and alternative news site have become the journalist
investigators for Truth.
</quote>

(Nice double self-nuke, Einstein).
 

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#243549

On 5/13/14, 5:03 PM, in article enfu0.3ap@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>>>> 
<http://abcnews.go.com/US/photos/photos-sandy-hook-elementary-school-shooti>>>>
n
>>>> g-17974409/image-18130140>
>>>> <http://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/>
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting>
>>>> <http://sandyhookresearch.blogspot.com/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> LOL!  Do you even read the articles you link to?
>> 
>> Did you? Of course not: all you are interested in is denying the deaths of
>> many people and offending those who loved them because you want to feel
>> special. You are a sick, sick man.
>> 
> 
> So you stand by the following?  Or did you *still* not read this article
> you linked to:
> 
> <http://sandyhookresearch.blogspot.com/>
> <quote>
> This shows the Sandy Hook Shooting Could not have happened as the
> government and media have portrayed it to happen. We NEED Truth! People
> in forums, on blogs and alternative news site have become the journalist
> investigators for Truth.
> </quote>
> 
> (Nice double self-nuke, Einstein).

Ah the famous Wolfgang Halbig... a fraud running around asking people to
fund him.

Comes down to you are so pathetic in your need to feel "special" that you
are insisting a bunch of dead kids, and adults, and those who knew them and
loved them, mean *nothing* to you... your ego is more important than them
all.

Which shows you are a pathetic idiot.

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#243552

Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 5/13/14, 5:03 PM, in article enfu0.3ap@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>>>> 
> <http://abcnews.go.com/US/photos/photos-sandy-hook-elementary-school-shooti>>>>
> n
>>>>> g-17974409/image-18130140>
>>>>> <http://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/>
>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting>
>>>>> <http://sandyhookresearch.blogspot.com/>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> LOL!  Do you even read the articles you link to?
>>> 
>>> Did you? Of course not: all you are interested in is denying the deaths of
>>> many people and offending those who loved them because you want to feel
>>> special. You are a sick, sick man.
>>> 
>> 
>> So you stand by the following?  Or did you *still* not read this article
>> you linked to:
>> 
>> <http://sandyhookresearch.blogspot.com/>
>> <quote>
>> This shows the Sandy Hook Shooting Could not have happened as the
>> government and media have portrayed it to happen. We NEED Truth! People
>> in forums, on blogs and alternative news site have become the journalist
>> investigators for Truth.
>> </quote>
>> 
>> (Nice double self-nuke, Einstein).
> 
> Ah the famous Wolfgang Halbig... a fraud running around asking people to
> fund him.
> 
> Comes down to you are so pathetic in your need to feel "special" that you
> are insisting a bunch of dead kids, and adults, and those who knew them and
> loved them, mean *nothing* to you... your ego is more important than them
> all.
> 
> Which shows you are a pathetic idiot.
> 

God *damn* you are a blockhead.  That quote is from the link *you* posted.

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#243557

On 5/13/14, 5:20 PM, in article hgue03.a34@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>> Ah the famous Wolfgang Halbig... a fraud running around asking people to fund
>> him.
>> 
>> Comes down to you are so pathetic in your need to feel "special" that you are
>> insisting a bunch of dead kids, and adults, and those who knew them and loved
>> them, mean *nothing* to you... your ego is more important than them all.
>> 
>> Which shows you are a pathetic idiot.
>> 
> God *damn* you are a blockhead.  That quote is from the link *you* posted.
> 
Yup - I screwed up... but at least I am not so pathetic I push the idea that
20 dead kids and 6 dead adults not only fail to matter but should not even
be considered to exist simply because *I* want to feel special about myself
and be "in the know" - that is you.

But if you want to belittle me for posting a bad link so be it. You are the
one who is pathetic, delusional scum lying your ass off - perhaps even to
yourself - just so you can *feel* good. Sick. Repulsive.

But feel free to keep working to changing the goal post to, oh no!, a poorly
selected link.

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#243555

On 14-05-13 07:45 PM, owl wrote:
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 5/13/14, 2:17 PM, in article gjdy03.a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/13/14, 2:09 PM, in article hgue803.a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> The overwhelming mass of evidence with *nothing* to suggest it is in any
>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>> significantly wrong is one thing you are missing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What mass of evidence?  "News stories"?  Like this?
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%B6lkischer_Beobachter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The mass of evidence that has been, well, everywhere. I already showed you
>>>>>> pictures and names... and explained why it would take thousands upon
>>>>>> thousands of people to push the type of insane conspiracy nonsense you
>>>>>> push.
>>>>>> You do not care. You only care that you do not have to deal with a "random"
>>>>>> world where bad things happen in ways you cannot predict or explain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So be it: you do not care about logic and reason and rationality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Still no evidence from you.  As expected, just pyschobabble.  Tell it
>>>>> to Oprah.
>>>>
>>>> Evidence of what?
>>>
>>> Evidence that the government propaganda storyline is true.
>>>
>> What government propaganda? Remember, your nonsense makes *no* sense unless
>> you accept your emotion-based conspiracy nonsense.
>>
>> Are you asking for evidence of the actual event? If so it is trivial to
>> find! Here, lots of links that took me mere moments to find. I could get you
>> literally hundreds of others... but you have an *emotional* attachment to
>> your whacked out conspiracy nonsense where you deny the Holocaust, 9/11, the
>> Sandy Hook shooting, and anything else that makes you *feel* good.
>>
>> Anyway, proof for you to ignore and insist is all part of your conspiracy
>> theory that would take thousands upon thousands of people to push:
>>
>> <http://abcnews.go.com/US/photos/photos-sandy-hook-elementary-school-shootin
>> g-17974409/image-18130140>
>> <http://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting>
>> <http://sandyhookresearch.blogspot.com/>
> 
> 
> LOL!  Do you even read the articles you link to?

The clown posted a link to a website which proves that Sandy Hook didn't
happen. Wow.

We should save this post for future generations to be reminded of how
stupid the guy really is. I have him binned so it's up to you guys.

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#243562

On 5/13/14, 5:30 PM, in article lkuded$rjn$1@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<ndr@slvrlps.c> wrote:

>>> Anyway, proof for you to ignore and insist is all part of your conspiracy
>>> theory that would take thousands upon thousands of people to push:
>>> 
>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/US/photos/photos-sandy-hook-elementary-school-shootin
>>> g-17974409/image-18130140>
>>> <http://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/>
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting>
>>> <http://sandyhookresearch.blogspot.com/>
>> 
>> 
>> LOL!  Do you even read the articles you link to?
> 
> The clown posted a link to a website which proves that Sandy Hook didn't
> happen. Wow.
> 
> We should save this post for future generations to be reminded of how
> stupid the guy really is. I have him binned so it's up to you guys.

Yup, I posted a bad link. That makes me worse than you cretins who insist
the lives of 20 kids and 6 adults matter so little that you can deny they
even existed for no reason other than to feel better about yourself.

Get over yourself! You are simply not that important!


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#243509

On 14-05-13 03:48 PM, owl wrote:
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 5/13/14, 12:27 PM, in article hg903.a33p@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>>> The only reason I can figure for why a faggot like you lives in the great
>>>>> state of Arizona is that somebody must have dropped your dumb ass out in
>>>>> the desert hoping you wouldn't make it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> See: you lash out in anger. Remember:
>>>>
>>>>  <http://goo.gl/6LV04> [Slate.com]
>>>>    -----
>>>>    First of all, why do people believe conspiracy theories?
>>>>
>>>>    There are number of factors, but probably one of the most
>>>>    important ones in this instance is that, paradoxically, it gives
>>>>    people a sense of control. People hate randomness, they dread the
>>>>    sort of random occurrences that can destroy their lives, so as a
>>>>    mechanism against that dread, it turns out that it¹s much easier
>>>>    to believe in a conspiracy. Then you have someone to blame, it¹s
>>>>    not just randomness.
>>>>
>>>>    What are the psychological forces at play in conspiracy thinking?
>>>>
>>>>    Basically what¹s happening in any conspiracy theory is that people
>>>>    have a need or a motivation to believe in this theory, and it¹s
>>>>    psychologically different from evidence-based thinking. A
>>>>    conspiracy theory is immune to evidence, and that can pretty well
>>>>    serve as the definition of one. If you reject evidence, or
>>>>    reinterpret the evidence to be confirmation of your theory, or you
>>>>    ignore mountains of evidence to focus on just one thing, you¹re
>>>>    probably a conspiracy theorist. We call that a self-sealing nature
>>>>    of reasoning.
>>>>    -----
>>>>
>>>> That fits you very well. Also Silver Slimer and GreyCloud. Amazing to watch.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm sure you'll provide those "mountains of evidence" any minute now...
>>
>> For what? For the fact you push insane conspiracy nonsense?
>>
> 
> I see.  Your response to a request for evidence to support your bullshit
> theories is simply to decline to provide that evidence.  No surprise there.
> (And no suprise that you support Obama).

Silly owl, anything other than what the government tells you to believe
is a conspiracy theory and you're wrong to believe anything other than
what the government tells you to believe lest you be humiliated by
Slate.com.

It pains me to see people as genuinely idiotic as Michael Glasser.

The worst part is that the only reason the boy is on this forum so often
is because he has no friends in real-life. Even though we all despise
the guy, we're still his best friends.

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#243516

On 5/13/14, 2:55 PM, in article lku4cq$vs6$4@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<ndr@slvrlps.c> wrote:

...
>>>> I'm sure you'll provide those "mountains of evidence" any minute now...
>>> 
>>> For what? For the fact you push insane conspiracy nonsense?
>>> 
>> 
>> I see.  Your response to a request for evidence to support your bullshit
>> theories is simply to decline to provide that evidence.  No surprise there.
>> (And no suprise that you support Obama).
> 
> Silly owl, anything other than what the government tells you to believe
> is a conspiracy theory and you're wrong to believe anything other than
> what the government tells you to believe lest you be humiliated by
> Slate.com.
> 
> It pains me to see people as genuinely idiotic as Michael Glasser.
> 
> The worst part is that the only reason the boy is on this forum so often
> is because he has no friends in real-life. Even though we all despise
> the guy, we're still his best friends.

You are equating your irrational, emotion-filled desire for conspiracy
theories to be true to not believing what the "government tells you to
believe". Yet one more irrational belief of yours.

Remember, though, you have all the info you need to understand the basics of
why you believe as you do:

  <http://goo.gl/6LV04> [Slate.com]
    -----
    First of all, why do people believe conspiracy theories?

    There are number of factors, but probably one of the most
    important ones in this instance is that, paradoxically, it gives
    people a sense of control. People hate randomness, they dread the
    sort of random occurrences that can destroy their lives, so as a
    mechanism against that dread, it turns out that it¹s much easier
    to believe in a conspiracy. Then you have someone to blame, it¹s
    not just randomness.

    What are the psychological forces at play in conspiracy thinking?

    Basically what¹s happening in any conspiracy theory is that people
    have a need or a motivation to believe in this theory, and it¹s
    psychologically different from evidence-based thinking. A
    conspiracy theory is immune to evidence, and that can pretty well
    serve as the definition of one. If you reject evidence, or
    reinterpret the evidence to be confirmation of your theory, or you
    ignore mountains of evidence to focus on just one thing, you¹re
    probably a conspiracy theorist. We call that a self-sealing nature
    of reasoning.
    -----

  <http://goo.gl/f3pqK2> [Psychology Today]
    -----
    Melley proposes that conspiracy thinking arises from a combination
    of two factors, when someone: 1) holds strong individualist values
    and 2) lacks a sense of control. The first attribute refers to
    people who care deeply about an individual's right to make their
    own choices and direct their own lives without interference or
    obligations to a larger system (like the government). But combine
    this with a sense of powerlessness in one's own life, and you get
    what Melley calls agency panic, "intense anxiety about an apparent
    loss of autonomy" to outside forces or regulators.

    When fervent individualists feel that they cannot exercise their
    independence, they experience a crisis and assume that larger
    forces are to blame for usurping this freedom. "For one who
    refuses to relinquish the assumptions of liberal individualism,
    such newly revealed forms of regulation frequently seem so
    unacceptable or unbelievable that they can only be met with
    anxiety, melodrama, or panic."
    ...
    For one thing, conspiracy theories help us cope with distressing
    events and make sense out of them. Conspiracies assure us that bad
    things don't just happen randomly. Conspiracies tell us that
    someone out there is accountable, however unwittingly or secretly
    or incomprehensibly, so it's possible to stop these people and
    punish them and in due course let everyone else re-establish
    control over their own lives. Conspiracies also remind us that we
    shouldn't blame ourselves for our predicaments; it's not our
    fault, it's them! In these ways, believing in conspiracies serves
    many of the same self-protective functions as scapegoating.
    -----
    
  <http://goo.gl/JQ4NV> [Psychology Today]
    -----
    The number sounded wildly inflated. Conspiracy theorists have a
    grandiose view of themselves as heroes "manning the barricades of
    civilization" at an urgent "turning point" in history, Hofstadter
    held. Jones has a "messiah complex," Black contends. Grandiosity
    is often a defense against underlying feelings of powerlessness.

    Even well-grounded skeptics are prone to connect disparate dots
    when they feel disempowered. In a series of studies, Jennifer
    Whitson of the University of Texas and Adam Galinsky of
    Northwestern demonstrated that people primed to feel out of
    control are particularly likely to see patterns in random stimuli.
    -----
    
  <http://goo.gl/v0dU9> [NY Times]
    -----
    "If you know the truth and others don't, that's one way you can
    reassert feelings of having agency," Swami says. It can be
    comforting to do your own research even if that research is
    flawed. It feels good to be the wise old goat in a flock of sheep.

    Surprisingly, Swami's work has also turned up a correlation
    between conspiracy theorizing and strong support of democratic
    principles. But this isn't quite so strange if you consider the
    context. Kathryn Olmsted, a historian at the University of
    California, Davis, says that conspiracy theories wouldn't exist in
    a world in which real conspiracies don't exist. And those
    conspiracies -- Watergate or the Iran-contra Affair -- often involve
    manipulating and circumventing the democratic process. Even people
    who believe that the Sandy Hook shooting was actually a drama
    staged by actors couch their arguments in concern for the
    preservation of the Second Amendment.
    ...
    Psychologists aren¹t sure whether powerlessness causes conspiracy
    theories or vice versa. Either way, the current scientific
    thinking suggests these beliefs are nothing more than an extreme
    form of cynicism, a turning away from politics and traditional
    media ‹ which only perpetuates the problem.
    -----
    
  <http://goo.gl/psXzzr> [Smart Planet]
    -----
    A new article in Scientific American tries to figure that out.
    Michael Shermer outlines in his "Skeptic" column four traits of
    those who believe:

    * patternicity, or a tendency to find meaningful patterns in
      random noise;
    * agenticity, or the bent to believe the world is controlled by
      invisible intentional agent;
    * confirmation bias, or the seeking and finding of confirmatory
      evidence for what we already believe;
    * hindsight bias, or tailoring after-the-fact explanations to what
      we already know happened.
    
    A conspiracy theory takes flight when all of these are concocted
    into a heady mix of conviction. It's called "conspiratorial
    cognition," and it's the fuel driving belief in Bigfoot, Area 51's
    UFOs and the paranormal.
    ...
    Some points from his article:

    * People who believe in one theory are more likely to believe in
      others.
    * There is a strong association between income and belief levels:
      the better-off are less likely to believe in conspiracy
      theories. (Perhaps this can be chalked up to education.)
    * Instability makes most of us uncomfortable; people prefer to
      imagine living in a predictable, safe world. Some conspiracy
      theories offer accounts that feel "safe" or "predictable."
    * Conspiracy theories often mutate over time in light of new or
      contradicting evidence.
    * Conspiracies usually require a big newsworthy event on which to
      peg it.

    But it's Shermer who drives the point home. He writes:

    "The more elaborate a conspiracy theory is, and the more people that
    would need to be involved, the less likely it is true."
    -----
    
  <http://goo.gl/EFn7BG> [LA Times]
    -----
    Conspiracy theories: Why we believe the unbelievable

    Why do so many people refuse to accept this simple and obvious
    conclusion? The answer: psychology.

    There are three psychological effects at work here, starting with
    "cognitive dissonance," or the discomfort felt when holding two
    ideas that are not in harmony. We attempt to reduce the dissonance
    by altering one of the ideas to be in accord with the other.
    ...
    A second psychological effect is the "monological belief system,"
    or "a unitary, closed-off worldview in which beliefs come together
    in a mutually supportive network," in the words of University of
    Kent researchers Michael J. Wood, Karen M. Douglas and Robbie M.
    Sutton in a 2012 paper titled "Dead and Alive: Beliefs in
    Contradictory Conspiracy Theories." A conspiracy theory, they
    wrote, is "a proposed plot by powerful people or organizations
    working together in secret to accomplish some (usually sinister)
    goal." Once you believe that "one massive, sinister conspiracy
    could be successfully executed in near-perfect secrecy [it]
    suggests that many such plots are possible."
    ...
    A third psychological effect is "confirmation bias," or the
    tendency to look for and find confirming evidence for what you
    already believe and to ignore disconfirming evidence. Once you
    believe, say, that 9/11 was an inside job by the Bush
    administration, you focus on the handful of anomalies that fateful
    day and connect them into a seemingly meaningful pattern, while
    ignoring the massive evidence pointing to Al Qaeda.
    -----


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#243474

owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> writes:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 5/13/14, 5:47 AM, in article hgue0.r34a@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> <http://www.rawstory.com/rs/?p=620326>
>>>> 
>>>> Telling a parent of a child who was killed that their child never even
>>>> existed. 
>>>> 
>>>> Really. These people are just insane scum.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Fake parent.  Fake child.  No problem.
>> 
>> Ah, so you support the telling of a parent whose child was killed that their
>> child did not even exist - using the baseless accusation that they are not
>> really a parent of this child that did not exist.
>> 
>> You are utter scum as well.
>> 
>
> Sandy Hook was a complete hoax, you dumbass.  And so was the Boston Cherry
> Bombing.
>

Yo do realise your crap is against the law in some places. You're as
dumb as turd but at least he doesn't "deny the holocaust" which is the
equivalent of what you are doing. I can only hope you are simply
trolling snot.

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#243476

On 5/13/14, 1:03 PM, in article 87lhu5wio8.fsf@gmail.com, "Hadron"
<hadronquark@gmail.com> wrote:

> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> writes:
> 
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/13/14, 5:47 AM, in article hgue0.r34a@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> <http://www.rawstory.com/rs/?p=620326>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Telling a parent of a child who was killed that their child never even
>>>>> existed. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Really. These people are just insane scum.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Fake parent.  Fake child.  No problem.
>>> 
>>> Ah, so you support the telling of a parent whose child was killed that their
>>> child did not even exist - using the baseless accusation that they are not
>>> really a parent of this child that did not exist.
>>> 
>>> You are utter scum as well.
>>> 
>> 
>> Sandy Hook was a complete hoax, you dumbass.  And so was the Boston Cherry
>> Bombing.
>> 
> 
> Yo do realise your crap is against the law in some places. You're as
> dumb as turd but at least he doesn't "deny the holocaust" which is the
> equivalent of what you are doing. I can only hope you are simply
> trolling snot.

I do not think he is. I think he really is so insane as to believe these
Bilk-level idiot conspiracy theories.

COLA attracts such people.


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#243478

Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 5/13/14, 1:03 PM, in article 87lhu5wio8.fsf@gmail.com, "Hadron"
> <hadronquark@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> writes:
>> 
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/13/14, 5:47 AM, in article hgue0.r34a@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>> <http://www.rawstory.com/rs/?p=620326>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Telling a parent of a child who was killed that their child never even
>>>>>> existed. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Really. These people are just insane scum.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fake parent.  Fake child.  No problem.
>>>> 
>>>> Ah, so you support the telling of a parent whose child was killed that their
>>>> child did not even exist - using the baseless accusation that they are not
>>>> really a parent of this child that did not exist.
>>>> 
>>>> You are utter scum as well.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sandy Hook was a complete hoax, you dumbass.  And so was the Boston Cherry
>>> Bombing.
>>> 
>> 
>> Yo do realise your crap is against the law in some places. You're as
>> dumb as turd but at least he doesn't "deny the holocaust" which is the
>> equivalent of what you are doing. I can only hope you are simply
>> trolling snot.
> 
> I do not think he is. I think he really is so insane as to believe these
> Bilk-level idiot conspiracy theories.
> 
> COLA attracts such people.
> 

Quick, call Interpol.  Or have they had to change their name too because
some polack got his panties in a wad?
 

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#243482

On 5/13/14, 1:14 PM, in article eu93a.3o@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

... 
>> I do not think he is. I think he really is so insane as to believe these
>> Bilk-level idiot conspiracy theories.
>> 
>> COLA attracts such people.
>> 
> 
> Quick, call Interpol.  Or have they had to change their name too because
> some polack got his panties in a wad?

What you are running from:

  <http://goo.gl/6LV04> [Slate.com]
    -----
    First of all, why do people believe conspiracy theories?

    There are number of factors, but probably one of the most
    important ones in this instance is that, paradoxically, it gives
    people a sense of control. People hate randomness, they dread the
    sort of random occurrences that can destroy their lives, so as a
    mechanism against that dread, it turns out that it¹s much easier
    to believe in a conspiracy. Then you have someone to blame, it¹s
    not just randomness.

    What are the psychological forces at play in conspiracy thinking?

    Basically what¹s happening in any conspiracy theory is that people
    have a need or a motivation to believe in this theory, and it¹s
    psychologically different from evidence-based thinking. A
    conspiracy theory is immune to evidence, and that can pretty well
    serve as the definition of one. If you reject evidence, or
    reinterpret the evidence to be confirmation of your theory, or you
    ignore mountains of evidence to focus on just one thing, you¹re
    probably a conspiracy theorist. We call that a self-sealing nature
    of reasoning.
    -----

  <http://goo.gl/f3pqK2> [Psychology Today]
    -----
    Melley proposes that conspiracy thinking arises from a combination
    of two factors, when someone: 1) holds strong individualist values
    and 2) lacks a sense of control. The first attribute refers to
    people who care deeply about an individual's right to make their
    own choices and direct their own lives without interference or
    obligations to a larger system (like the government). But combine
    this with a sense of powerlessness in one's own life, and you get
    what Melley calls agency panic, "intense anxiety about an apparent
    loss of autonomy" to outside forces or regulators.

    When fervent individualists feel that they cannot exercise their
    independence, they experience a crisis and assume that larger
    forces are to blame for usurping this freedom. "For one who
    refuses to relinquish the assumptions of liberal individualism,
    such newly revealed forms of regulation frequently seem so
    unacceptable or unbelievable that they can only be met with
    anxiety, melodrama, or panic."
    ...
    For one thing, conspiracy theories help us cope with distressing
    events and make sense out of them. Conspiracies assure us that bad
    things don't just happen randomly. Conspiracies tell us that
    someone out there is accountable, however unwittingly or secretly
    or incomprehensibly, so it's possible to stop these people and
    punish them and in due course let everyone else re-establish
    control over their own lives. Conspiracies also remind us that we
    shouldn't blame ourselves for our predicaments; it's not our
    fault, it's them! In these ways, believing in conspiracies serves
    many of the same self-protective functions as scapegoating.
    -----
    
  <http://goo.gl/JQ4NV> [Psychology Today]
    -----
    The number sounded wildly inflated. Conspiracy theorists have a
    grandiose view of themselves as heroes "manning the barricades of
    civilization" at an urgent "turning point" in history, Hofstadter
    held. Jones has a "messiah complex," Black contends. Grandiosity
    is often a defense against underlying feelings of powerlessness.

    Even well-grounded skeptics are prone to connect disparate dots
    when they feel disempowered. In a series of studies, Jennifer
    Whitson of the University of Texas and Adam Galinsky of
    Northwestern demonstrated that people primed to feel out of
    control are particularly likely to see patterns in random stimuli.
    -----
    
  <http://goo.gl/v0dU9> [NY Times]
    -----
    "If you know the truth and others don't, that's one way you can
    reassert feelings of having agency," Swami says. It can be
    comforting to do your own research even if that research is
    flawed. It feels good to be the wise old goat in a flock of sheep.

    Surprisingly, Swami's work has also turned up a correlation
    between conspiracy theorizing and strong support of democratic
    principles. But this isn't quite so strange if you consider the
    context. Kathryn Olmsted, a historian at the University of
    California, Davis, says that conspiracy theories wouldn't exist in
    a world in which real conspiracies don't exist. And those
    conspiracies -- Watergate or the Iran-contra Affair -- often involve
    manipulating and circumventing the democratic process. Even people
    who believe that the Sandy Hook shooting was actually a drama
    staged by actors couch their arguments in concern for the
    preservation of the Second Amendment.
    ...
    Psychologists aren¹t sure whether powerlessness causes conspiracy
    theories or vice versa. Either way, the current scientific
    thinking suggests these beliefs are nothing more than an extreme
    form of cynicism, a turning away from politics and traditional
    media ‹ which only perpetuates the problem.
    -----
    
  <http://goo.gl/psXzzr> [Smart Planet]
    -----
    A new article in Scientific American tries to figure that out.
    Michael Shermer outlines in his "Skeptic" column four traits of
    those who believe:

    * patternicity, or a tendency to find meaningful patterns in
      random noise;
    * agenticity, or the bent to believe the world is controlled by
      invisible intentional agent;
    * confirmation bias, or the seeking and finding of confirmatory
      evidence for what we already believe;
    * hindsight bias, or tailoring after-the-fact explanations to what
      we already know happened.
    
    A conspiracy theory takes flight when all of these are concocted
    into a heady mix of conviction. It's called "conspiratorial
    cognition," and it's the fuel driving belief in Bigfoot, Area 51's
    UFOs and the paranormal.
    ...
    Some points from his article:

    * People who believe in one theory are more likely to believe in
      others.
    * There is a strong association between income and belief levels:
      the better-off are less likely to believe in conspiracy
      theories. (Perhaps this can be chalked up to education.)
    * Instability makes most of us uncomfortable; people prefer to
      imagine living in a predictable, safe world. Some conspiracy
      theories offer accounts that feel "safe" or "predictable."
    * Conspiracy theories often mutate over time in light of new or
      contradicting evidence.
    * Conspiracies usually require a big newsworthy event on which to
      peg it.

    But it's Shermer who drives the point home. He writes:

    "The more elaborate a conspiracy theory is, and the more people that
    would need to be involved, the less likely it is true."
    -----
    
  <http://goo.gl/EFn7BG> [LA Times]
    -----
    Conspiracy theories: Why we believe the unbelievable

    Why do so many people refuse to accept this simple and obvious
    conclusion? The answer: psychology.

    There are three psychological effects at work here, starting with
    "cognitive dissonance," or the discomfort felt when holding two
    ideas that are not in harmony. We attempt to reduce the dissonance
    by altering one of the ideas to be in accord with the other.
    ...
    A second psychological effect is the "monological belief system,"
    or "a unitary, closed-off worldview in which beliefs come together
    in a mutually supportive network," in the words of University of
    Kent researchers Michael J. Wood, Karen M. Douglas and Robbie M.
    Sutton in a 2012 paper titled "Dead and Alive: Beliefs in
    Contradictory Conspiracy Theories." A conspiracy theory, they
    wrote, is "a proposed plot by powerful people or organizations
    working together in secret to accomplish some (usually sinister)
    goal." Once you believe that "one massive, sinister conspiracy
    could be successfully executed in near-perfect secrecy [it]
    suggests that many such plots are possible."
    ...
    A third psychological effect is "confirmation bias," or the
    tendency to look for and find confirming evidence for what you
    already believe and to ignore disconfirming evidence. Once you
    believe, say, that 9/11 was an inside job by the Bush
    administration, you focus on the handful of anomalies that fateful
    day and connect them into a seemingly meaningful pattern, while
    ignoring the massive evidence pointing to Al Qaeda.
    -----



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#243512

On 14-05-13 04:14 PM, owl wrote:
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 5/13/14, 1:03 PM, in article 87lhu5wio8.fsf@gmail.com, "Hadron"
>> <hadronquark@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> writes:
>>>
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 5/13/14, 5:47 AM, in article hgue0.r34a@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> <http://www.rawstory.com/rs/?p=620326>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Telling a parent of a child who was killed that their child never even
>>>>>>> existed. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really. These people are just insane scum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fake parent.  Fake child.  No problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, so you support the telling of a parent whose child was killed that their
>>>>> child did not even exist - using the baseless accusation that they are not
>>>>> really a parent of this child that did not exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are utter scum as well.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sandy Hook was a complete hoax, you dumbass.  And so was the Boston Cherry
>>>> Bombing.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yo do realise your crap is against the law in some places. You're as
>>> dumb as turd but at least he doesn't "deny the holocaust" which is the
>>> equivalent of what you are doing. I can only hope you are simply
>>> trolling snot.
>>
>> I do not think he is. I think he really is so insane as to believe these
>> Bilk-level idiot conspiracy theories.
>>
>> COLA attracts such people.
>>
> 
> Quick, call Interpol.  Or have they had to change their name too because
> some polack got his panties in a wad?

Speaking as a Polack, I can tell you that none of us ever get insulted
by such shit.

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#243514

On 5/13/14, 3:01 PM, in article lku4od$vs6$6@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<ndr@slvrlps.c> wrote:

>>> I do not think he is. I think he really is so insane as to believe these
>>> Bilk-level idiot conspiracy theories.
>>> 
>>> COLA attracts such people.
>>> 
>> 
>> Quick, call Interpol.  Or have they had to change their name too because
>> some polack got his panties in a wad?
> 
> Speaking as a Polack, I can tell you that none of us ever get insulted
> by such shit.

Is that what you think gives you a right to attack people based on their
race or nationality.


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