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| Started by | John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-03-10 14:32 -0800 |
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Cruz says Trump backers, especially owl, have 'relatively low information,' not very 'engaged' John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 14:32 -0800
Re: Cruz says Trump backers, especially owl, have 'relatively low information,' not very 'engaged' owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-03-10 22:36 +0000
Re: Cruz says Trump backers, especially owl, have 'relatively low information,' not very 'engaged' John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 14:43 -0800
Re: Cruz says Trump backers, especially owl, have 'relatively low information,' not very 'engaged' owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-03-10 22:53 +0000
The War on Trump Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 01:11 -0700
Re: The War on Trump owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-03-16 08:22 +0000
Re: The War on Trump DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-17 12:16 -0400
Re: The War on Trump owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-03-17 19:24 +0000
Re: The War on Trump "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-17 19:29 -0400
Re: The War on Trump DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-03-17 19:53 -0400
Re: The War on Trump owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-03-18 04:05 +0000
Re: The War on Trump "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-18 12:49 -0400
Re: The War on Trump Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 16:52 +0000
Re: The War on Trump "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-18 13:04 -0400
Re: The War on Trump owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-03-18 19:03 +0000
Re: The War on Trump Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2016-03-18 14:18 -0500
Re: The War on Trump owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-03-18 19:26 +0000
Re: The War on Trump Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2016-03-18 14:32 -0500
Re: The War on Trump owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-03-18 19:58 +0000
Re: The War on Trump "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-18 16:15 -0400
Re: The War on Trump "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-03-18 15:31 -0400
Re: The War on Trump Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2016-03-18 14:34 -0500
Re: The War on Trump owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-03-18 00:27 +0000
Trump and his political machine has the election all sown up John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 02:33 -0700
Re: Trump and his political machine has the election all sown up "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.invalid> - 2016-03-16 10:42 +0000
Re: Trump and his political machine has the election all sown up John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-03-16 03:57 -0700
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| From | John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-10 14:32 -0800 |
| Subject | Cruz says Trump backers, especially owl, have 'relatively low information,' not very 'engaged' |
| Message-ID | <9a9407e3-d79f-4d2a-9a3f-1ca21a454e69@googlegroups.com> |
Cruz says Trump backers have 'relatively low information,' not very 'engaged'
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/03/10/cruz-says-trump-backers-have-relatively-low-information-not-very-engaged.html
Ted Cruz said in an interview ahead of next week's critical primaries that Donald Trump's supporters have "relatively low information" and are "not that engaged" - an oblique dig at the very voters Cruz is aggressively courting.
The Texas senator, though, said in the interview with CBN News that he's winning over these voters as they "inform themselves" and learn more about Trump's record. Explaining his comments, he referred to Trump's past remarks about the "poorly educated" supporting him.
"Donald does well with voters who have relatively low information, who are not that engaged and who are angry and they see him as an angry voice," Cruz told CBN. "Where we are beating him is when voters get more engaged and they get more informed. When they inform themselves, they realize his record. He's what they're angry at. He is the corruption, and if you want someone to stand up to Washington, the only one who has been doing so in this race is me."
"Donald does well with voters who have relatively low information, who are not that engaged and who are angry and they see him as an angry voice."
Cruz also said Trump is "taking advantage of his voters" - which is roughly the same charge the GOP front-runner leveled at his Republican detractors during a Fox News town hall Wednesday night.
At the forum, Trump pushed back against what appears to be a growing movement among the party establishment -- including a few of his former rivals -- to at least slow march to the convention with enough delegates in hand to claim the nomination.
The billionaire businessman called his campaign a movement "of competence and common sense and low taxes and [secure] borders and it would be so foolish to give it away."
Trump was referring to a conference held by the conservative American Enterprise Institute at Sea Island off the coast of Georgia over the weekend, where one of the topics reportedly was stopping Trump from securing the Republican nomination.
The conference reportedly was attended by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, House Speaker Paul Ryan and other key Republican congressmen.
"I know all these people," Trump told Fox News' Sean Hannity. "These are people that are taking advantage of our country. They don't want to have strong borders. They want stuff flowing across the borders. They don't want to have taxation when countries treat us unfairly because they benefit from that."
Cruz's comments about Trump's supporters comes ahead of another Republican debate Thursday night in Florida, the site of one of five big primaries next Tuesday. The stakes are higher than ever, as those five primaries could decide the fate of Trump's remaining rivals.
As Trump builds his delegate lead over the field following a string of wins earlier this week, Cruz is positioning himself as the one candidate who could actually beat Trump in the end - citing several primary and caucus victories, most recently in Idaho.
He was buoyed Wednesday by the endorsement of former candidate Carly Fiorina. And, speaking with Fox News' Megyn Kelly, he said the other two candidates in the race - Marco Rubio and John Kasich - do not have a "path to the nomination."
"Head-to-head, not only do I beat Donald Trump," Cruz said, "but I defeat him resoundingly."
Rubio is under tremendous pressure to win Florida next week, his home state. But a Fox News poll released Wednesday showed Rubio trailing Trump by 23 percentage points among likely Republican voters in Florida.
Rubio, though, told Kelly he has no intention of dropping out right now.
"I have never discussed dropping out with anyone on my team, or anyone on the planet Earth ... I'm the only one who can beat Donald Trump in Florida," he said.
Rubio also dismissed the possibility that he would form a so-called "unity" Republican ticket with Cruz, Trump's closest challenger in the delegate race, calling it " the kind of drama that makes it interesting in TV to speculate about."
"At some point we're all going to team up," Rubio said in reference to the non-Trump candidates. "We're all going to be on the same team, I hope."
Former GOP presidential candidate Jeb Bush also planned to meet with Trump's rivals on Thursday ahead of the GOP debate in Florida, fueling speculation that he's preparing to endorse a candidate challenging Trump.
Ohio Gov. Kasich, meanwhile, is vowing to win his home state next week. He told Fox News' Greta Van Susteren that he would "probably not" pick up enough delegates in other contests to overtake Trump, but noted that voters had only "picked about half the delegates [so far] this year ... anything is possible."
A Fox News poll released Wednesday showed Kasich leading Trump by five percentage points among likely Republican voters in the Buckeye State.
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-03-10 22:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <fhuf0ao3f.a@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #345997 |
John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> wrote: > Cruz says Trump backers have 'relatively low information,' not very 'engaged' > Here's a more realistic quote: Cruz says T-T-Trump backers have 'relatively low information,' n-n-not very 'engaged'
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| From | John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-10 14:43 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <9fe27367-becd-43b4-9906-8884370c5434@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #345999 |
On Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 5:36:35 PM UTC-5, owl wrote: > John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> wrote: > > Cruz says Trump backers have 'relatively low information,' not very 'engaged' > > > > Here's a more realistic quote: > Cruz says T-T-Trump backers have 'relatively low information,' > n-n-not very 'engaged' How about: owl has no brain?
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-03-10 22:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <gnjd03a3a.if@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #346000 |
John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday, March 10, 2016 at 5:36:35 PM UTC-5, owl wrote: >> John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Cruz says Trump backers have 'relatively low information,' not very 'engaged' >> > >> >> Here's a more realistic quote: >> Cruz says T-T-Trump backers have 'relatively low information,' >> n-n-not very 'engaged' > > > How about: owl has no brain? H-H-How about you eat a booger. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34kR3HK3Btk
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| From | Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-16 01:11 -0700 |
| Subject | The War on Trump |
| Message-ID | <a2aaf10c-1a50-446d-b528-fd2858f8681a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #346002 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciavyc6bE7A
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-03-16 08:22 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The War on Trump |
| Message-ID | <tn390a.afui@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #346598 |
Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciavyc6bE7A > Fear teh Gay Fuckes mask!
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 12:16 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The War on Trump |
| Message-ID | <ncel3f$ak9$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #346600 |
On 3/16/2016 4:22 AM, owl wrote: > Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciavyc6bE7A >> > > Fear teh Gay Fuckes mask! 4:22 am? Were you feeding the cows or choking the chicken?
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 19:24 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The War on Trump |
| Message-ID | <hjg03-a.f22a@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #346703 |
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: > On 3/16/2016 4:22 AM, owl wrote: >> Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote: >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciavyc6bE7A >>> >> >> Fear teh Gay Fuckes mask! > > > 4:22 am? > > Were you feeding the cows or choking the chicken? > anon@lowtide:~$ bible Eph4:22 Ephesians 4 22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; anon@lowtide:~$
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| From | "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 19:29 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The War on Trump |
| Message-ID | <ncfeek$n6l$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #346715 |
"owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message news:hjg03-a.f22a@rooftop.invalid... > DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >> On 3/16/2016 4:22 AM, owl wrote: >>> Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciavyc6bE7A >>>> >>> >>> Fear teh Gay Fuckes mask! >> >> >> 4:22 am? >> >> Were you feeding the cows or choking the chicken? >> > > anon@lowtide:~$ bible Eph4:22 > > Ephesians 4 > > 22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which > is > corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; > anon@lowtide:~$ > The hacker group anonymous just posted his SSN and phone number online. Meanwhile the GOP is trying to figure out a way to stop him. Like him, hate him, or something in between. It's not the way that democracy and "the will of the people" is supposed to work. -- "If your product needs "support", then it has failed." JED explaining why Redhat sells Linux support. <slrnn6egba.kh7.jedi@nomad.mishnet> Dec 8, 2015
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 19:53 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The War on Trump |
| Message-ID | <ncffsh$ppk$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #346747 |
On 3/17/2016 7:29 PM, Ezekiel wrote: > "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message > news:hjg03-a.f22a@rooftop.invalid... >> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>> On 3/16/2016 4:22 AM, owl wrote: >>>> Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciavyc6bE7A >>>>> >>>> >>>> Fear teh Gay Fuckes mask! >>> >>> >>> 4:22 am? >>> >>> Were you feeding the cows or choking the chicken? >>> >> >> anon@lowtide:~$ bible Eph4:22 >> >> Ephesians 4 >> >> 22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which >> is >> corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; >> anon@lowtide:~$ >> > > The hacker group anonymous just posted his SSN and phone number online. > > Meanwhile the GOP is trying to figure out a way to stop him. > > Like him, hate him, or something in between. It's not the way that democracy > and "the will of the people" is supposed to work. It's hard to know the will of the people if, for example, Trump gets 42% of the delegates, Cruz gets 41%, and Kasich gets 17%. A majority is easy to deal with, but a plurality not so much.
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-03-18 04:05 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The War on Trump |
| Message-ID | <ghjdie79.q4ta@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #346753 |
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: > On 3/17/2016 7:29 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message >> news:hjg03-a.f22a@rooftop.invalid... >>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>>> On 3/16/2016 4:22 AM, owl wrote: >>>>> Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciavyc6bE7A >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fear teh Gay Fuckes mask! >>>> >>>> >>>> 4:22 am? >>>> >>>> Were you feeding the cows or choking the chicken? >>>> >>> >>> anon@lowtide:~$ bible Eph4:22 >>> >>> Ephesians 4 >>> >>> 22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which >>> is >>> corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; >>> anon@lowtide:~$ >>> >> >> The hacker group anonymous just posted his SSN and phone number online. >> >> Meanwhile the GOP is trying to figure out a way to stop him. >> >> Like him, hate him, or something in between. It's not the way that democracy >> and "the will of the people" is supposed to work. > > > It's hard to know the will of the people if, for example, Trump gets 42% > of the delegates, Cruz gets 41%, and Kasich gets 17%. > > A majority is easy to deal with, but a plurality not so much. > I think Cruz has already gotten his big batch. From here on out, the gap is just going to widen. Kasich is a pawn whose insanity is being manipulated by the puppetmasters so that he can be a spoiler, making it difficult for either Trump or Cruz to hit 1237. If it goes to the convention with Trump at 1100+ and cruz back near 600, and then they play games and take it from Trump, there will be hell to pay at the polls in November. Trump will rightfully see that as "unfair," and therefore a breach of the pledge they all made, and he will either take his voters independent or tell them to stay home -- and they will. Either way, the Republican party will lose the election. The bad thing is I don't think they care. The party bigwigs would rather lose the election than lose a power play.
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| From | "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-18 12:49 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The War on Trump |
| Message-ID | <nchbdb$jve$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #346753 |
"DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in message news:ncffsh$ppk$5@dont-email.me... > On 3/17/2016 7:29 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message >> news:hjg03-a.f22a@rooftop.invalid... >>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>>> On 3/16/2016 4:22 AM, owl wrote: >>>>> Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciavyc6bE7A >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fear teh Gay Fuckes mask! >>>> >>>> >>>> 4:22 am? >>>> >>>> Were you feeding the cows or choking the chicken? >>>> >>> >>> anon@lowtide:~$ bible Eph4:22 >>> >>> Ephesians 4 >>> >>> 22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, >>> which >>> is >>> corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; >>> anon@lowtide:~$ >>> >> >> The hacker group anonymous just posted his SSN and phone number online. >> >> Meanwhile the GOP is trying to figure out a way to stop him. >> >> Like him, hate him, or something in between. It's not the way that >> democracy >> and "the will of the people" is supposed to work. > > > It's hard to know the will of the people if, for example, Trump gets 42% > of the delegates, Cruz gets 41%, and Kasich gets 17%. > > A majority is easy to deal with, but a plurality not so much. > I understand the rules for delegates, reaching 1237 and all that. I've just never seen an election where the establishment party is openly trying to undermine a primary campaign like this. -- "I've done for example SQL optimization and the reason I could do it better than the best high level experts can do was because I think in hex and bits and byte movements. If you know the assembler in detail, you would know what "select * from employees" would translate into assembler and how different and yet similar that would be from "select name from employees" Babbling idiot "7" <qAN5r.607$ya.432@newsfe03.ams2>
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| From | Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-18 16:52 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The War on Trump |
| Message-ID | <dl2q2qFbecjU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #346817 |
On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 12:49:44 -0400, Ezekiel wrote: > "DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in message > news:ncffsh$ppk$5@dont-email.me... >> On 3/17/2016 7:29 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message >>> news:hjg03-a.f22a@rooftop.invalid... >>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>>>> On 3/16/2016 4:22 AM, owl wrote: >>>>>> Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciavyc6bE7A >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Fear teh Gay Fuckes mask! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 4:22 am? >>>>> >>>>> Were you feeding the cows or choking the chicken? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> anon@lowtide:~$ bible Eph4:22 >>>> >>>> Ephesians 4 >>>> >>>> 22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, >>>> which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; >>>> anon@lowtide:~$ >>>> >>>> >>> The hacker group anonymous just posted his SSN and phone number >>> online. >>> >>> Meanwhile the GOP is trying to figure out a way to stop him. >>> >>> Like him, hate him, or something in between. It's not the way that >>> democracy and "the will of the people" is supposed to work. >> >> >> It's hard to know the will of the people if, for example, Trump gets >> 42% >> of the delegates, Cruz gets 41%, and Kasich gets 17%. >> >> A majority is easy to deal with, but a plurality not so much. >> >> > I understand the rules for delegates, reaching 1237 and all that. I've > just never seen an election where the establishment party is openly > trying to undermine a primary campaign like this. Never had a complete idiot running for the nomination before either... :) -- Lloyd
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| From | "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-18 13:04 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The War on Trump |
| Message-ID | <nchc9o$nia$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #346819 |
"Lloyd Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote in message news:dl2q2qFbecjU1@mid.individual.net... > On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 12:49:44 -0400, Ezekiel wrote: > >>> >> I understand the rules for delegates, reaching 1237 and all that. I've >> just never seen an election where the establishment party is openly >> trying to undermine a primary campaign like this. > > Never had a complete idiot running for the nomination before either... :) > We have an idiot on one side and a corrupt crook on the other. What a choice.
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-03-18 19:03 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The War on Trump |
| Message-ID | <ghd0ta9g4.kig@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #346819 |
Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 12:49:44 -0400, Ezekiel wrote: > >> "DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in message >> news:ncffsh$ppk$5@dont-email.me... >>> On 3/17/2016 7:29 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:hjg03-a.f22a@rooftop.invalid... >>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 3/16/2016 4:22 AM, owl wrote: >>>>>>> Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciavyc6bE7A >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fear teh Gay Fuckes mask! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 4:22 am? >>>>>> >>>>>> Were you feeding the cows or choking the chicken? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> anon@lowtide:~$ bible Eph4:22 >>>>> >>>>> Ephesians 4 >>>>> >>>>> 22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, >>>>> which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; >>>>> anon@lowtide:~$ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> The hacker group anonymous just posted his SSN and phone number >>>> online. >>>> >>>> Meanwhile the GOP is trying to figure out a way to stop him. >>>> >>>> Like him, hate him, or something in between. It's not the way that >>>> democracy and "the will of the people" is supposed to work. >>> >>> >>> It's hard to know the will of the people if, for example, Trump gets >>> 42% >>> of the delegates, Cruz gets 41%, and Kasich gets 17%. >>> >>> A majority is easy to deal with, but a plurality not so much. >>> >>> >> I understand the rules for delegates, reaching 1237 and all that. I've >> just never seen an election where the establishment party is openly >> trying to undermine a primary campaign like this. > > Never had a complete idiot running for the nomination before either... :) > All the geniuses are rising up against the Trump. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIjljucvBI4
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| From | Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-18 14:18 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: The War on Trump |
| Message-ID | <1708986787.480021205.668327.lloydp21-live.com@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #346823 |
owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 12:49:44 -0400, Ezekiel wrote: >> >>> "DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in message >>> news:ncffsh$ppk$5@dont-email.me... >>>> On 3/17/2016 7:29 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >>>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> news:hjg03-a.f22a@rooftop.invalid... >>>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On 3/16/2016 4:22 AM, owl wrote: >>>>>>>> Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciavyc6bE7A >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Fear teh Gay Fuckes mask! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4:22 am? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Were you feeding the cows or choking the chicken? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> anon@lowtide:~$ bible Eph4:22 >>>>>> >>>>>> Ephesians 4 >>>>>> >>>>>> 22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, >>>>>> which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; >>>>>> anon@lowtide:~$ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> The hacker group anonymous just posted his SSN and phone number >>>>> online. >>>>> >>>>> Meanwhile the GOP is trying to figure out a way to stop him. >>>>> >>>>> Like him, hate him, or something in between. It's not the way that >>>>> democracy and "the will of the people" is supposed to work. >>>> >>>> >>>> It's hard to know the will of the people if, for example, Trump gets >>>> 42% >>>> of the delegates, Cruz gets 41%, and Kasich gets 17%. >>>> >>>> A majority is easy to deal with, but a plurality not so much. >>>> >>>> >>> I understand the rules for delegates, reaching 1237 and all that. I've >>> just never seen an election where the establishment party is openly >>> trying to undermine a primary campaign like this. >> >> Never had a complete idiot running for the nomination before either... :) >> > > All the geniuses are rising up against the Trump. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIjljucvBI4 > > The saddest part of this election cycle is that there are so few that are worth a shit running. I'm a Democrat in general, but I was hoping for a good conservative this time to help swing that old pendulum back a bit. Trump is no conservative by any measure, he is an opportunist and blowhard with a hugely inflated ego. The 'common man' is rightly pissed off because they know they got hosed in the bailouts, we've got a congress/senate that refuses to do their job and an economy that is feeding the fat cats while telling the rest of us to go punt. Trump is feeding that anger! Cruz is a conservative of the right-wing nut job type and has that coupled with religious fervor. Kasich is too moderate for many and Rubio has flamed out. IF Trump takes the Republican nomination I think the Republican Party will be in deep trouble down ticket. And Hillary just isn't going to cut it with me. Bernie's history is good, but his current ideas aren't. What a fucking sad bunch to have to pick from!! :( -- Lloyd
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-03-18 19:26 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The War on Trump |
| Message-ID | <fhug00.af9ae@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #346826 |
Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote: > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 12:49:44 -0400, Ezekiel wrote: >>> >>>> "DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in message >>>> news:ncffsh$ppk$5@dont-email.me... >>>>> On 3/17/2016 7:29 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >>>>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>> news:hjg03-a.f22a@rooftop.invalid... >>>>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 3/16/2016 4:22 AM, owl wrote: >>>>>>>>> Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciavyc6bE7A >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Fear teh Gay Fuckes mask! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 4:22 am? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Were you feeding the cows or choking the chicken? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> anon@lowtide:~$ bible Eph4:22 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ephesians 4 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, >>>>>>> which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; >>>>>>> anon@lowtide:~$ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> The hacker group anonymous just posted his SSN and phone number >>>>>> online. >>>>>> >>>>>> Meanwhile the GOP is trying to figure out a way to stop him. >>>>>> >>>>>> Like him, hate him, or something in between. It's not the way that >>>>>> democracy and "the will of the people" is supposed to work. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's hard to know the will of the people if, for example, Trump gets >>>>> 42% >>>>> of the delegates, Cruz gets 41%, and Kasich gets 17%. >>>>> >>>>> A majority is easy to deal with, but a plurality not so much. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I understand the rules for delegates, reaching 1237 and all that. I've >>>> just never seen an election where the establishment party is openly >>>> trying to undermine a primary campaign like this. >>> >>> Never had a complete idiot running for the nomination before either... :) >>> >> >> All the geniuses are rising up against the Trump. >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIjljucvBI4 >> >> > > The saddest part of this election cycle is that there are so few that are > worth a shit running. I'm a Democrat in general, but I was hoping for a > good conservative this time to help swing that old pendulum back a bit. > Trump is no conservative by any measure, he is an opportunist and blowhard > with a hugely inflated ego. > > The 'common man' is rightly pissed off because they know they got hosed in > the bailouts, we've got a congress/senate that refuses to do their job and > an economy that is feeding the fat cats while telling the rest of us to go > punt. Trump is feeding that anger! > > Cruz is a conservative of the right-wing nut job type and has that coupled > with religious fervor. > > Kasich is too moderate for many and Rubio has flamed out. > > IF Trump takes the Republican nomination I think the Republican Party will > be in deep trouble down ticket. > > And Hillary just isn't going to cut it with me. Bernie's history is good, > but his current ideas aren't. > > What a fucking sad bunch to have to pick from!! :( > Who do you think would make a better president than Trump? (Not just among those running).
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| From | Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-18 14:32 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: The War on Trump |
| Message-ID | <347150484.480022225.861217.lloydp21-live.com@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #346827 |
owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote: >> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>> Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 12:49:44 -0400, Ezekiel wrote: >>>> >>>>> "DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:ncffsh$ppk$5@dont-email.me... >>>>>> On 3/17/2016 7:29 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >>>>>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:hjg03-a.f22a@rooftop.invalid... >>>>>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 3/16/2016 4:22 AM, owl wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciavyc6bE7A >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Fear teh Gay Fuckes mask! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 4:22 am? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Were you feeding the cows or choking the chicken? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> anon@lowtide:~$ bible Eph4:22 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ephesians 4 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, >>>>>>>> which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; >>>>>>>> anon@lowtide:~$ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> The hacker group anonymous just posted his SSN and phone number >>>>>>> online. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Meanwhile the GOP is trying to figure out a way to stop him. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Like him, hate him, or something in between. It's not the way that >>>>>>> democracy and "the will of the people" is supposed to work. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It's hard to know the will of the people if, for example, Trump gets >>>>>> 42% >>>>>> of the delegates, Cruz gets 41%, and Kasich gets 17%. >>>>>> >>>>>> A majority is easy to deal with, but a plurality not so much. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I understand the rules for delegates, reaching 1237 and all that. I've >>>>> just never seen an election where the establishment party is openly >>>>> trying to undermine a primary campaign like this. >>>> >>>> Never had a complete idiot running for the nomination before either... :) >>>> >>> >>> All the geniuses are rising up against the Trump. >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIjljucvBI4 >>> >>> >> >> The saddest part of this election cycle is that there are so few that are >> worth a shit running. I'm a Democrat in general, but I was hoping for a >> good conservative this time to help swing that old pendulum back a bit. >> Trump is no conservative by any measure, he is an opportunist and blowhard >> with a hugely inflated ego. >> >> The 'common man' is rightly pissed off because they know they got hosed in >> the bailouts, we've got a congress/senate that refuses to do their job and >> an economy that is feeding the fat cats while telling the rest of us to go >> punt. Trump is feeding that anger! >> >> Cruz is a conservative of the right-wing nut job type and has that coupled >> with religious fervor. >> >> Kasich is too moderate for many and Rubio has flamed out. >> >> IF Trump takes the Republican nomination I think the Republican Party will >> be in deep trouble down ticket. >> >> And Hillary just isn't going to cut it with me. Bernie's history is good, >> but his current ideas aren't. >> >> What a fucking sad bunch to have to pick from!! :( >> > > Who do you think would make a better president than Trump? (Not just > among those running). > > Virtually anyone would be a better President than Trump. But I was in there for Rubio as I think he is conservative enough and I could vote for Kasich. But my favorite was Huckabee and still is. -- Lloyd
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-03-18 19:58 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: The War on Trump |
| Message-ID | <hgjd03.a093h@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #346830 |
Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote: > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote: >>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>> Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 12:49:44 -0400, Ezekiel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:ncffsh$ppk$5@dont-email.me... >>>>>>> On 3/17/2016 7:29 PM, Ezekiel wrote: >>>>>>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:hjg03-a.f22a@rooftop.invalid... >>>>>>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 3/16/2016 4:22 AM, owl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciavyc6bE7A >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Fear teh Gay Fuckes mask! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 4:22 am? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Were you feeding the cows or choking the chicken? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> anon@lowtide:~$ bible Eph4:22 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ephesians 4 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, >>>>>>>>> which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; >>>>>>>>> anon@lowtide:~$ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The hacker group anonymous just posted his SSN and phone number >>>>>>>> online. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Meanwhile the GOP is trying to figure out a way to stop him. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Like him, hate him, or something in between. It's not the way that >>>>>>>> democracy and "the will of the people" is supposed to work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's hard to know the will of the people if, for example, Trump gets >>>>>>> 42% >>>>>>> of the delegates, Cruz gets 41%, and Kasich gets 17%. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A majority is easy to deal with, but a plurality not so much. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> I understand the rules for delegates, reaching 1237 and all that. I've >>>>>> just never seen an election where the establishment party is openly >>>>>> trying to undermine a primary campaign like this. >>>>> >>>>> Never had a complete idiot running for the nomination before either... :) >>>>> >>>> >>>> All the geniuses are rising up against the Trump. >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIjljucvBI4 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> The saddest part of this election cycle is that there are so few that are >>> worth a shit running. I'm a Democrat in general, but I was hoping for a >>> good conservative this time to help swing that old pendulum back a bit. >>> Trump is no conservative by any measure, he is an opportunist and blowhard >>> with a hugely inflated ego. >>> >>> The 'common man' is rightly pissed off because they know they got hosed in >>> the bailouts, we've got a congress/senate that refuses to do their job and >>> an economy that is feeding the fat cats while telling the rest of us to go >>> punt. Trump is feeding that anger! >>> >>> Cruz is a conservative of the right-wing nut job type and has that coupled >>> with religious fervor. >>> >>> Kasich is too moderate for many and Rubio has flamed out. >>> >>> IF Trump takes the Republican nomination I think the Republican Party will >>> be in deep trouble down ticket. >>> >>> And Hillary just isn't going to cut it with me. Bernie's history is good, >>> but his current ideas aren't. >>> >>> What a fucking sad bunch to have to pick from!! :( >>> >> >> Who do you think would make a better president than Trump? (Not just >> among those running). >> >> > > Virtually anyone would be a better President than Trump. > Personally, I like Trump because he's ballsy and arrogant and speaks his mind. Those are pretty much the definition of "American" to me. I don't care if he doesn't have a Nobel Prize. That's what the cabinet is for. > But I was in there for Rubio as I think he is conservative enough and I > could vote for Kasich. > I don't trust Kasich. The fact that he is still in the race, with no chance whatsoever of getting the necessary 1237 delegates, is proof that either he is delusional or he is part of a Stop Trump conspiracy. > But my favorite was Huckabee and still is. > Huckabee would have been a good president, but he's not up to fighting in the trenches, which is what it will take to destroy that cunt. Is there anybody outside of this year's parade of lunatics that you would want as president?
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| From | "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-18 16:15 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: The War on Trump |
| Message-ID | <nchnfi$8jn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #346833 |
"owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message news:hgjd03.a093h@rooftop.invalid... > Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote: > > Huckabee would have been a good president, but he's not up to fighting in > the trenches, which is what it will take to destroy that cunt. > > Is there anybody outside of this year's parade of lunatics that you would > want as president? > Outside of this year's lunatics - how about someone like Condoleezza Rice? A good "class vs. trash" article. <quote> Hillary Clinton charged $200K to speak at Boys and Girls Club, didn't donate back or meet with kids Hillary Rodham Clinton charged $200,000 to speak at a Boys and Girls Club charity event last year and then donated 100 percent of her earnings back into her family's own $2 billion foundation, according to a recent Politico report. Sources also complained that Mrs. Clinton gave her speech and left without visiting any of the club's facilities or meeting with the children. Her speech was also closed to the press, Politico reported. By contrast, Condoleezza Rice, who spoke at the same event five years earlier, spent the morning before her speech touring a club facility and talking with its children, Politico reported. Her speech was open to the press. Ms. Rice collected a $60,000 speaking fee for her event and then donated almost all of it back to the club, sources told Politico. Mrs. Clinton's husband, former President Bill Clinton, was the club's 2007 featured speaker. Mr. Clinton charged the group $150,000 and reported the earnings as personal income, Politico reported. </quote> http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/18/hillary-clinton-charged-200k-to-speak-at-boys-and-/ I bet that Clinton meets with people when giving speeches to bankers instead of underprivileged children. That's because she can get more money from bankers than she can from poor kids. She didn't even pretend that she cares about anything other than collecting her speaking fee.
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