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| Started by | Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> |
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| First post | 2016-05-13 22:37 +0000 |
| Last post | 2016-05-14 06:52 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 215 — 29 participants |
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GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-13 22:37 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-13 18:44 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-13 20:55 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior CrimsonIdol <CrimsonIdol@invalid.com> - 2016-05-14 09:19 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-15 13:05 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-13 16:27 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-14 01:52 +0200
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-13 17:29 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-13 18:09 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-14 03:13 +0200
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-13 18:25 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-13 18:36 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-14 13:55 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-14 16:02 +0200
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-13 18:19 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-13 18:30 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-13 18:55 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-13 19:18 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-13 21:28 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-13 23:53 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-14 06:41 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-14 11:34 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-05-15 08:33 -0300
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-15 08:01 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-05-16 13:45 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-16 09:39 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 10:42 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 11:02 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-14 05:07 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-13 23:53 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-05-14 13:18 +0100
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-14 11:43 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-14 22:44 +0200
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-05-14 22:25 +0100
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-15 00:57 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-14 18:08 -0700
Ronb needs to get what is left of his mind out of the gutter. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-05-14 18:55 -0700
Another inebriated evening in Richmond Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-05-14 22:06 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-14 04:25 +0200
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-14 05:01 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-05-14 13:20 +0100
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-14 06:44 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-05-14 15:10 +0100
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-14 07:26 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-14 09:12 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-14 09:34 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-14 09:43 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-14 09:50 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-14 10:31 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-14 12:05 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-14 11:42 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-14 12:34 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-14 12:02 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-05-14 13:08 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-14 21:35 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-14 18:48 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-14 18:55 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-15 02:03 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-14 19:17 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-14 20:05 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-14 20:06 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-15 13:05 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-15 22:32 +0200
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-18 09:14 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-18 16:49 +0200
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-18 16:59 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-18 23:23 +0200
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-18 14:49 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-18 22:52 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-18 16:27 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-06-07 13:43 -0500
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-05-18 23:08 +0100
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-14 22:39 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-14 20:17 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-14 21:08 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-15 14:27 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 11:32 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-15 14:37 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 11:40 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-15 14:42 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-15 22:32 +0200
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-16 07:14 -0500
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-25 17:23 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-25 23:36 +0200
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-25 17:49 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-26 00:00 +0200
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-26 19:26 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-26 18:33 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-25 16:49 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-05-25 21:19 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-25 21:21 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-05-25 21:23 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-26 08:24 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-05-25 21:22 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-26 10:17 +0200
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-26 09:54 -0700
Lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser misquoting again Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-26 19:37 +0200
Re: Lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser misquoting again Jack Sperm Whale Whalen <jackspermwhalepacific@noemail9.org> - 2016-05-26 17:38 +0000
Re: Lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser misquoting again Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-26 10:43 -0700
Re: Lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser misquoting again Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-26 10:42 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Jack Sperm Whale Whalen <jackspermwhalepacific@noemail9.org> - 2016-05-26 17:41 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-14 11:37 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Meat Puppet <up@yourfat.ass> - 2016-05-14 17:20 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-05-14 14:32 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-14 16:36 +0200
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-05-14 15:17 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-05-16 14:44 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-14 07:57 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-05-14 15:36 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-14 15:52 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-05-14 09:07 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-05-14 17:05 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-14 10:09 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-05-15 08:20 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 05:26 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-05-15 13:32 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 07:24 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-05-15 15:14 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 08:24 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-05-15 16:26 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 10:23 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-05-16 05:28 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-15 12:00 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-05-15 21:20 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-15 14:21 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-05-16 05:31 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-16 09:51 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-05-16 19:49 -0600
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-15 11:30 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-05-16 19:45 -0600
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-05-17 05:52 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-05-17 19:26 -0600
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-14 09:28 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-14 12:41 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-05-15 08:18 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 05:23 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-15 06:23 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 06:52 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-15 07:24 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 07:30 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-15 06:58 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 07:33 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-15 07:59 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 08:06 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 08:12 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-15 08:44 -0700
Re: I paid $293 for my TeraByte SSD, a Samsung 850 EVO. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-15 20:04 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-15 09:27 -0700
Re: If you know nothing about computers, or you're really poor... benj <nobodyxx@gmail> - 2016-05-16 00:33 -0400
Re: If you know nothing about computers, or you're really poor... "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-05-15 22:49 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-05-15 13:23 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 07:21 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTLY Superior William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-05-15 16:07 +0100
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTLY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 08:22 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTLY Superior William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-05-15 16:48 +0100
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTLY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 10:03 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTLY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-15 13:47 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTLY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 10:55 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTLY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-15 11:15 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTLY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-15 14:19 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTLY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 11:22 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTLY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-15 14:24 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTLY Superior owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-15 18:08 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTLY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-15 14:10 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-05-15 16:24 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-15 09:36 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 10:16 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-05-15 21:20 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-15 11:28 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-15 11:33 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-05-16 15:12 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-05-16 16:27 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-14 23:00 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-14 22:56 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-14 20:09 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-14 20:20 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-14 21:16 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-05-15 09:49 +0100
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 05:29 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-15 12:07 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-15 13:04 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 10:28 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-15 13:55 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 11:15 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-15 14:40 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-15 11:43 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-15 14:44 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-15 14:47 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-05-15 22:59 +0100
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-15 12:44 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-05-16 11:27 +0100
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-16 13:27 +0200
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-05-16 12:46 +0100
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-05-16 13:07 +0100
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-16 10:03 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-16 19:12 +0200
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-16 12:29 -0500
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-16 15:19 -0400
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-16 10:32 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 10:51 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 11:02 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 11:23 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-05-16 12:17 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-16 10:04 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-14 13:58 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-14 11:35 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-05-14 21:16 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-05-14 14:51 -0700
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-15 00:59 +0000
Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-15 00:27 +0000
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Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior Mick Maelstrom <mickmael@tehsaurus.invalid> - 2016-05-14 01:26 +0000
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Re: GNU/Linux Is VASTY Superior John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-05-14 09:35 -0700
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-05-14 20:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D35D35BB.72F9F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #355407 |
On 5/14/16, 7:03 PM, in article nh8lea$lna$1@dont-email.me, "ronb" <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, 14 May 2016 18:48:52 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote: > >> On 2016-05-15, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>> On 5/14/2016 10:26 AM, Marek Novotny wrote: >>> >>> >>>> We have a few people with an Inferiority complex that feel compelled >>>> to deal with their problem in our group. >>> >>> No doubt... they're called "Linux advocates". And for the ENTIRE LIFE >>> of this group - that means from day one in 1994 until today 22 years >>> later - those weenies have been lying and whining about MS and Windows, >>> and now Apple as well. >> >> I believe you believe that. ;) > > And, even it is true, we're not doing it in the Windows Advocacy > newsgroup. DuFuS can never quite grasp that concept. This is a LINUX > advocacy newsgroup, not a Windows apology newsgroup. Would you please advocate Linux? -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI> * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-15 13:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nhaa1c$s48$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #355407 |
On 5/14/2016 10:03 PM, ronb wrote: > On Sat, 14 May 2016 18:48:52 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote: > >> On 2016-05-15, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>> On 5/14/2016 10:26 AM, Marek Novotny wrote: >>> >>> >>>> We have a few people with an Inferiority complex that feel compelled >>> > to deal with their problem in our group. >>> >>> No doubt... they're called "Linux advocates". And for the ENTIRE LIFE >>> of this group - that means from day one in 1994 until today 22 years >>> later - those weenies have been lying and whining about MS and Windows, >>> and now Apple as well. >> >> I believe you believe that. ;) > > And, even it is true, It is true. "Windows requires reboots constantly for almost every application installation." - the lying whining idiot wRonG, Sep 2015 "Microshit shills are girly men that project (in the psychological sense) their egregious incompetence onto FOSS developers and FOSS projects." - the deranged Fabian Russell, yesterday > we're not doing it in the Windows Advocacy > newsgroup. DuFuS can never quite grasp that concept. This is a LINUX > advocacy newsgroup, No. A group is defined not by it's name, but by it's contents. When the "advocates" are left to their idiocy, this is nothing but a hate-MS group. Ironically, most of the MS-haters make their living with Windows.
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| From | Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-05-15 22:32 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nham6r$ljq$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #355510 |
DFS wrote: > On 5/14/2016 10:03 PM, ronb wrote: >> On Sat, 14 May 2016 18:48:52 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote: >> >>> On 2016-05-15, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>>> On 5/14/2016 10:26 AM, Marek Novotny wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> We have a few people with an Inferiority complex that feel compelled >>>> > to deal with their problem in our group. >>>> >>>> No doubt... they're called "Linux advocates". And for the ENTIRE LIFE >>>> of this group - that means from day one in 1994 until today 22 years >>>> later - those weenies have been lying and whining about MS and Windows, >>>> and now Apple as well. >>> >>> I believe you believe that. ;) >> >> And, even it is true, > > > It is true. > > "Windows requires reboots constantly for almost every application > installation." - the lying whining idiot wRonG, Sep 2015 For many, it is still true. And for updates, it is mostly true
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-18 09:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nhhplk$r0f$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #355560 |
On 5/15/2016 4:32 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > DFS wrote: > >> On 5/14/2016 10:03 PM, ronb wrote: >>> On Sat, 14 May 2016 18:48:52 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote: >>> >>>> On 2016-05-15, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>>>> On 5/14/2016 10:26 AM, Marek Novotny wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> We have a few people with an Inferiority complex that feel compelled >>>>> > to deal with their problem in our group. >>>>> >>>>> No doubt... they're called "Linux advocates". And for the ENTIRE LIFE >>>>> of this group - that means from day one in 1994 until today 22 years >>>>> later - those weenies have been lying and whining about MS and Windows, >>>>> and now Apple as well. >>>> >>>> I believe you believe that. ;) >>> >>> And, even it is true, >> >> >> It is true. >> >> "Windows requires reboots constantly for almost every application >> installation." - the lying whining idiot wRonG, Sep 2015 > > For many, it is still true. Liar. You can barely find ONE, let alone many. > And for updates, it is mostly true Irrelevant. wRonG said applications. You're both liars.
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| From | Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-05-18 16:49 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nhhv7a$f9v$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #355850 |
DFS wrote: > On 5/15/2016 4:32 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >> DFS wrote: >> >>> On 5/14/2016 10:03 PM, ronb wrote: >>>> On Sat, 14 May 2016 18:48:52 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2016-05-15, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 5/14/2016 10:26 AM, Marek Novotny wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> We have a few people with an Inferiority complex that feel >>>>>>> compelled >>>>>> > to deal with their problem in our group. >>>>>> >>>>>> No doubt... they're called "Linux advocates". And for the ENTIRE >>>>>> LIFE of this group - that means from day one in 1994 until today 22 >>>>>> years later - those weenies have been lying and whining about MS and >>>>>> Windows, and now Apple as well. >>>>> >>>>> I believe you believe that. ;) >>>> >>>> And, even it is true, >>> >>> >>> It is true. >>> >>> "Windows requires reboots constantly for almost every application >>> installation." - the lying whining idiot wRonG, Sep 2015 >> >> For many, it is still true. > > Liar. You can barely find ONE, let alone many. > Strange that my windows installation needed so many reboots then > >> And for updates, it is mostly true > > Irrelevant. wRonG said applications. You're both liars. So IE is not a application? Each update for IE has mandated a reboot "Updates" are to be had for the (few) MS applications shipping with windows.
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-18 16:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nhiks4$7ai$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #355858 |
On 5/18/2016 10:49 AM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > DFS wrote: > Strange that my windows installation needed so many reboots then Windows isn't an application. >>> And for updates, it is mostly true >> >> Irrelevant. wRonG said applications. You're both liars. > > So IE is not a application? Each update for IE has mandated a reboot An update is not an application. > "Updates" are to be had for the (few) MS applications shipping with windows.
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| From | Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-05-18 23:23 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nhima3$dov$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #355932 |
DFS wrote: > On 5/18/2016 10:49 AM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >> DFS wrote: > > > >> Strange that my windows installation needed so many reboots then > > Windows isn't an application. > It needs a awful lot of reboots after updates, though > >>>> And for updates, it is mostly true >>> >>> Irrelevant. wRonG said applications. You're both liars. >> >> So IE is not a application? Each update for IE has mandated a reboot > > An update is not an application. > It is *for* applications, though And all too often after "updating a application" windows needs to be rebooted The reason is simple: If a DLL used by many apps is updated too, it can't be done because windows refuses to replace the existing one with the new one as long as it is still "in use". Since the concept for "being in use" is so incredibly idiotic done on windows, those "direct updates "nearly always fail and need to be done during the reboot If you had any knowledge about the braindead concept of updates on windows, you would stop making such snittishly stupid claims
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-18 14:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D362318A.733E6%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #355940 |
On 5/18/16, 2:23 PM, in article nhima3$dov$1@dont-email.me, "Peter Köhlmann"
<peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
> DFS wrote:
>
>> On 5/18/2016 10:49 AM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>> DFS wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Strange that my windows installation needed so many reboots then
>>
>> Windows isn't an application.
>>
> It needs a awful lot of reboots after updates, though
>
>>
>>>>> And for updates, it is mostly true
>>>>
>>>> Irrelevant. wRonG said applications. You're both liars.
>>>
>>> So IE is not a application? Each update for IE has mandated a reboot
>>
>> An update is not an application.
>>
>
> It is *for* applications, though
> And all too often after "updating a application" windows needs to be
> rebooted
> The reason is simple: If a DLL used by many apps is updated too, it can't be
> done because windows refuses to replace the existing one with the new one as
> long as it is still "in use". Since the concept for "being in use" is so
> incredibly idiotic done on windows, those "direct updates "nearly always
> fail and need to be done during the reboot
>
>
> If you had any knowledge about the braindead concept of updates on windows,
> you would stop making such snittishly stupid claims
Where all updates on Linux are so smooth, right?
You can also read about the "package update. It is not recommended because:
-----
1. Slow: APT will download the new version of all the packages
installed on your system. Using a fresh upgrade you could have
downloaded all that data by simply getting the ISO.
2. Unreliable: Depending on your modifications, your sources, your
added software and your configuration you could end up with a
system that acts and feels really different than a brand new
version of the newer Linux Mint release. You're far from the
beaten track and the added features might not work as well on
your system as they were designed to.
3. Risky: The temptation when you upgrade with APT is not to
perform backups... since your partitions aren't overwritten,
nothing "forces" you to make backups... think about the risk
though.
4. Complicated: Packages conflict with each others, they can bring
complex dependencies and put you in situations that are
difficult to solve.
-----
Updates in Linux can be slow, unreliable, risky, and complicated. It can
lead to errors that are "difficult to resolve" based on the "complex
dependencies" that are just a part of living with desktop Linux.
You can pretend otherwise, Peter, but it comes down to you know NOTHING of
Lunux.
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* OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-05-18 22:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ghjcif03.a3tt@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #355944 |
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > On 5/18/16, 2:23 PM, in article nhima3$dov$1@dont-email.me, "Peter Köhlmann" > <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: > >> DFS wrote: >> >>> On 5/18/2016 10:49 AM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>> DFS wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Strange that my windows installation needed so many reboots then >>> >>> Windows isn't an application. >>> >> It needs a awful lot of reboots after updates, though >> >>> >>>>>> And for updates, it is mostly true >>>>> >>>>> Irrelevant. wRonG said applications. You're both liars. >>>> >>>> So IE is not a application? Each update for IE has mandated a reboot >>> >>> An update is not an application. >>> >> >> It is *for* applications, though >> And all too often after "updating a application" windows needs to be >> rebooted >> The reason is simple: If a DLL used by many apps is updated too, it can't be >> done because windows refuses to replace the existing one with the new one as >> long as it is still "in use". Since the concept for "being in use" is so >> incredibly idiotic done on windows, those "direct updates "nearly always >> fail and need to be done during the reboot >> >> >> If you had any knowledge about the braindead concept of updates on windows, >> you would stop making such snittishly stupid claims > > Where all updates on Linux are so smooth, right? > > You can also read about the "package update. It is not recommended because: > ----- > 1. Slow: APT will download the new version of all the packages > installed on your system. Using a fresh upgrade you could have > downloaded all that data by simply getting the ISO. > > 2. Unreliable: Depending on your modifications, your sources, your > added software and your configuration you could end up with a > system that acts and feels really different than a brand new > version of the newer Linux Mint release. You're far from the > beaten track and the added features might not work as well on > your system as they were designed to. > > 3. Risky: The temptation when you upgrade with APT is not to > perform backups... since your partitions aren't overwritten, > nothing "forces" you to make backups... think about the risk > though. > > 4. Complicated: Packages conflict with each others, they can bring > complex dependencies and put you in situations that are > difficult to solve. > ----- > > Updates in Linux can be slow, unreliable, risky, and complicated. It can > lead to errors that are "difficult to resolve" based on the "complex > dependencies" that are just a part of living with desktop Linux. > > You can pretend otherwise, Peter, but it comes down to you know NOTHING of > Lunux. > You should include an attribution link whenever you use a quote like that in your post. Maybe you could elaborate about your own experiences with respect to 1-4 ?
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-05-18 16:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D3624861.733FB%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #355952 |
On 5/18/16, 3:52 PM, in article ghjcif03.a3tt@rooftop.invalid, "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >> On 5/18/16, 2:23 PM, in article nhima3$dov$1@dont-email.me, "Peter Köhlmann" >> <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote: >> >>> DFS wrote: >>> >>>> On 5/18/2016 10:49 AM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>>> DFS wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Strange that my windows installation needed so many reboots then >>>> >>>> Windows isn't an application. >>>> >>> It needs a awful lot of reboots after updates, though >>> >>>> >>>>>>> And for updates, it is mostly true >>>>>> >>>>>> Irrelevant. wRonG said applications. You're both liars. >>>>> >>>>> So IE is not a application? Each update for IE has mandated a reboot >>>> >>>> An update is not an application. >>>> >>> >>> It is *for* applications, though >>> And all too often after "updating a application" windows needs to be >>> rebooted >>> The reason is simple: If a DLL used by many apps is updated too, it can't be >>> done because windows refuses to replace the existing one with the new one as >>> long as it is still "in use". Since the concept for "being in use" is so >>> incredibly idiotic done on windows, those "direct updates "nearly always >>> fail and need to be done during the reboot >>> >>> >>> If you had any knowledge about the braindead concept of updates on windows, >>> you would stop making such snittishly stupid claims >> >> Where all updates on Linux are so smooth, right? >> >> You can also read about the "package update. It is not recommended because: >> ----- >> 1. Slow: APT will download the new version of all the packages >> installed on your system. Using a fresh upgrade you could have >> downloaded all that data by simply getting the ISO. >> >> 2. Unreliable: Depending on your modifications, your sources, your >> added software and your configuration you could end up with a >> system that acts and feels really different than a brand new >> version of the newer Linux Mint release. You're far from the >> beaten track and the added features might not work as well on >> your system as they were designed to. >> >> 3. Risky: The temptation when you upgrade with APT is not to >> perform backups... since your partitions aren't overwritten, >> nothing "forces" you to make backups... think about the risk >> though. >> >> 4. Complicated: Packages conflict with each others, they can bring >> complex dependencies and put you in situations that are >> difficult to solve. >> ----- >> >> Updates in Linux can be slow, unreliable, risky, and complicated. It can >> lead to errors that are "difficult to resolve" based on the "complex >> dependencies" that are just a part of living with desktop Linux. >> >> You can pretend otherwise, Peter, but it comes down to you know NOTHING of >> Lunux. >> > > You should include an attribution link whenever you use a quote > like that in your post. Sorry... had it in earlier posts: <https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2> > Maybe you could elaborate about your own > experiences with respect to 1-4 ? I tend to use their recommended method... when I have not, though, I did an install of Ubuntu years ago and, I think, and update and then tried to use a GUI wrapper of cron. It would not work. It was actually one of the things that brought me to COLA, asking what could be going wrong. At the time, years ago, I did not have much experience with Linux. Have seen other oddities like this and, yes, I just back up any needed data and install the newest version. Of course, much of the herd insisted it had to be the user... but I eventually did a full re-install of the then-current distro and it worked fine. -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI> * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-06-07 13:43 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <slrnnle5er.cr5.jedi@nomad.mishnet> |
| In reply to | #355952 |
On 2016-05-18, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 5/18/16, 2:23 PM, in article nhima3$dov$1@dont-email.me, "Peter Köhlmann"
>> <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>
>>> DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/18/2016 10:49 AM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>>>> DFS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Strange that my windows installation needed so many reboots then
>>>>
>>>> Windows isn't an application.
>>>>
>>> It needs a awful lot of reboots after updates, though
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> And for updates, it is mostly true
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Irrelevant. wRonG said applications. You're both liars.
>>>>>
>>>>> So IE is not a application? Each update for IE has mandated a reboot
>>>>
>>>> An update is not an application.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is *for* applications, though
>>> And all too often after "updating a application" windows needs to be
>>> rebooted
>>> The reason is simple: If a DLL used by many apps is updated too, it can't be
>>> done because windows refuses to replace the existing one with the new one as
>>> long as it is still "in use". Since the concept for "being in use" is so
>>> incredibly idiotic done on windows, those "direct updates "nearly always
>>> fail and need to be done during the reboot
>>>
>>>
>>> If you had any knowledge about the braindead concept of updates on windows,
>>> you would stop making such snittishly stupid claims
>>
>> Where all updates on Linux are so smooth, right?
>>
>> You can also read about the "package update. It is not recommended because:
>> -----
>> 1. Slow: APT will download the new version of all the packages
Slow as defined by what exactly? The term "slow" in isolation really has
no meaning.
Besides, an apt update can proceed while you are still using the system.
If it takes a long time, then it's probably not really a problem relative
to something like a Windows or MacOS update.
>> installed on your system. Using a fresh upgrade you could have
>> downloaded all that data by simply getting the ISO.
>>
>> 2. Unreliable: Depending on your modifications, your sources, your
"depending on your modifications"
This means that you have a setup quite unlike your average mundane Windows
or MacOS user. This point is largely irrelevant to the "ease of use" crowd.
>> added software and your configuration you could end up with a
>> system that acts and feels really different than a brand new
>> version of the newer Linux Mint release. You're far from the
>> beaten track and the added features might not work as well on
>> your system as they were designed to.
>>
>> 3. Risky: The temptation when you upgrade with APT is not to
>> perform backups... since your partitions aren't overwritten,
>> nothing "forces" you to make backups... think about the risk
>> though.
This is just basic professional risk management.
It applies to ANYTHING. It's not just a Linux thing.
The point is also irrelevant.
>>
>> 4. Complicated: Packages conflict with each others, they can bring
>> complex dependencies and put you in situations that are
>> difficult to solve.
>> -----
All and all this sounds like boilerplate disclaimers like how all
commercial software vendors disclaim any implied warranties mandated
by law.
>>
>> Updates in Linux can be slow, unreliable, risky, and complicated. It can
>> lead to errors that are "difficult to resolve" based on the "complex
>> dependencies" that are just a part of living with desktop Linux.
>>
>> You can pretend otherwise, Peter, but it comes down to you know NOTHING of
>> Lunux.
>>
>
> You should include an attribution link whenever you use a quote
> like that in your post. Maybe you could elaborate about your own
> experiences with respect to 1-4 ?
>
>
It's truth or falsity really doesn't matter. He's just trying to take
advantage of the transparency of Linux where you get the straight poop and
you totally get to see how the sausage is made.
Things like "Back it up first" are just basic industry practice.
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| From | William Poaster <wp@dev.null> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-05-18 23:08 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <6n5v0d-po5.ln1@user-1842.linux.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #355940 |
Peter Köhlmann wrote: > DFS wrote: > >> On 5/18/2016 10:49 AM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>> DFS wrote: >> >> >> >>> Strange that my windows installation needed so many reboots then >> >> Windows isn't an application. No, it's a virus! > It needs a awful lot of reboots after updates, though AFAIC it would only need one boot, right off the machine it was installed on. >>>>> And for updates, it is mostly true >>>> >>>> Irrelevant. wRonG said applications. You're both liars. >>> >>> So IE is not a application? Each update for IE has mandated a reboot >> >> An update is not an application. >> > > It is *for* applications, though > And all too often after "updating a application" windows needs to be > rebooted > The reason is simple: If a DLL used by many apps is updated too, it can't be > done because windows refuses to replace the existing one with the new one as > long as it is still "in use". Since the concept for "being in use" is so > incredibly idiotic done on windows, those "direct updates "nearly always > fail and need to be done during the reboot > > > If you had any knowledge about the braindead concept of updates on windows, > you would stop making such snittishly stupid claims -- Linux - for IQs greater than 2000 Without open source projects like Apache, Nginx, OpenSSL, OpenSSH and others (to say nothing of GNU/Linux, which does get some attention), the latest hot new thing would likely not exist. More fundamentally, the web as we know it would not exist. There is a kind of myth that has grown around this lack of attention. It's the myth of the lone developer creating powerful magic. It's a myth the open-source community likes to tell itself: that open source software is created by individuals working on labours of love in their spare time. However, the myth ignores the fact that much of the money going into open source software is directly and indirectly (in the form of employing developers who contribute to open source projects) coming from corporations. So much for tagging it "hobbyware". -- Scott Gilbertson - May 13th 2016 --
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2016-05-14 22:39 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nh8nb0$r5i$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #355400 |
On 5/14/2016 9:48 PM, Marek Novotny wrote: > On 2016-05-15, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >> On 5/14/2016 10:26 AM, Marek Novotny wrote: >> >> >>> We have a few people with an Inferiority complex that feel compelled >> > to deal with their problem in our group. >> >> No doubt... they're called "Linux advocates". And for the ENTIRE LIFE >> of this group - that means from day one in 1994 until today 22 years >> later - those weenies have been lying and whining about MS and Windows, >> and now Apple as well. > > I believe you believe that. ;) You know it's true. You're one of them: "I have nothing but contempt for the company [Apple]", M. Novotny, today
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| From | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-14 20:17 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <sMidnad6SM7Ad6rKnZ2dnUU7-UGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #355416 |
On 2016-05-15, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: > On 5/14/2016 9:48 PM, Marek Novotny wrote: >> On 2016-05-15, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>> On 5/14/2016 10:26 AM, Marek Novotny wrote: >>> >>> >>>> We have a few people with an Inferiority complex that feel compelled >>> > to deal with their problem in our group. >>> >>> No doubt... they're called "Linux advocates". And for the ENTIRE LIFE >>> of this group - that means from day one in 1994 until today 22 years >>> later - those weenies have been lying and whining about MS and Windows, >>> and now Apple as well. >> >> I believe you believe that. ;) > > > You know it's true. You're one of them: > > "I have nothing but contempt for the company [Apple]", M. Novotny, today Oh believe me that wasn't a lie. I have nothing but contempt for Apple. And I haven't been here for 20 plus years. I've been here for a month give or take. -- Marek Novotny https://github.com/marek-novotny
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-14 21:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D35D444E.72FAC%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #355426 |
On 5/14/16, 8:17 PM, in article sMidnad6SM7Ad6rKnZ2dnUU7-UGdnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny" <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: > On 2016-05-15, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >> On 5/14/2016 9:48 PM, Marek Novotny wrote: >>> On 2016-05-15, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>>> On 5/14/2016 10:26 AM, Marek Novotny wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> We have a few people with an Inferiority complex that feel compelled >>>>> to deal with their problem in our group. >>>> >>>> No doubt... they're called "Linux advocates". And for the ENTIRE LIFE >>>> of this group - that means from day one in 1994 until today 22 years >>>> later - those weenies have been lying and whining about MS and Windows, >>>> and now Apple as well. >>> >>> I believe you believe that. ;) >> >> >> You know it's true. You're one of them: >> >> "I have nothing but contempt for the company [Apple]", M. Novotny, today > > Oh believe me that wasn't a lie. I have nothing but contempt for Apple. > And I haven't been here for 20 plus years. I've been here for a month > give or take. I respect Apple's focus on environmental and human rights issues, though I also realize they are a huge corporation where these things are FAR from perfect. And I like a large number of their products... and dislike others. -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI> * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-15 14:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nhaes8$n50$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #355426 |
On 5/14/2016 11:17 PM, Marek Novotny wrote: > And I haven't been here for 20 plus years. I've been here for a month > give or take. It feels like you've been here for 20 plus years, since you spew a novel every time you post. meth much?
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| From | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-15 11:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ybydnRa3UY9HXaXKnZ2dnUU7-UudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #355535 |
On 2016-05-15, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: > On 5/14/2016 11:17 PM, Marek Novotny wrote: > >> And I haven't been here for 20 plus years. I've been here for a month >> give or take. > > It feels like you've been here for 20 plus years, since you spew a novel > every time you post. > > meth much? You're a loser... -- Marek Novotny https://github.com/marek-novotny
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-15 14:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nhafes$n50$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #355541 |
On 5/15/2016 2:32 PM, Marek Novotny wrote: > On 2016-05-15, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >> On 5/14/2016 11:17 PM, Marek Novotny wrote: >> >>> And I haven't been here for 20 plus years. I've been here for a month >>> give or take. >> >> It feels like you've been here for 20 plus years, since you spew a novel >> every time you post. >> >> meth much? > > You're a loser... heh! I ask for a 3-line "percent breakdown of your estimated lifetime earnings by OS" and I get 43 lines of Novotny spewage. But... I do read a good percent of your posts. They're mostly interesting.
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| From | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-15 11:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ybydnRG3UY8_X6XKnZ2dnUU7-UudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #355543 |
On 2016-05-15, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: > On 5/15/2016 2:32 PM, Marek Novotny wrote: >> On 2016-05-15, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>> On 5/14/2016 11:17 PM, Marek Novotny wrote: >>> >>>> And I haven't been here for 20 plus years. I've been here for a month >>>> give or take. >>> >>> It feels like you've been here for 20 plus years, since you spew a novel >>> every time you post. >>> >>> meth much? >> >> You're a loser... > > > heh! > > I ask for a 3-line "percent breakdown of your estimated lifetime > earnings by OS" and I get 43 lines of Novotny spewage. > > But... I do read a good percent of your posts. They're mostly interesting. I skim through a few of yours. You let your inferiority complex get the best of you. As an aside, I don't care what you ask for. You'll get the answer I want to give or none at all. -- Marek Novotny https://github.com/marek-novotny
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-15 14:42 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nhafno$u60$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #355544 |
On 5/15/2016 2:40 PM, Marek Novotny wrote: > On 2016-05-15, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >> On 5/15/2016 2:32 PM, Marek Novotny wrote: >>> On 2016-05-15, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote: >>>> On 5/14/2016 11:17 PM, Marek Novotny wrote: >>>> >>>>> And I haven't been here for 20 plus years. I've been here for a month >>>>> give or take. >>>> >>>> It feels like you've been here for 20 plus years, since you spew a novel >>>> every time you post. >>>> >>>> meth much? >>> >>> You're a loser... >> >> >> heh! >> >> I ask for a 3-line "percent breakdown of your estimated lifetime >> earnings by OS" and I get 43 lines of Novotny spewage. >> >> But... I do read a good percent of your posts. They're mostly interesting. > > I skim through a few of yours. You let your inferiority complex get the > best of you. > > As an aside, I don't care what you ask for. Quit babbling that you 'don't care'. You do care. > You'll get the answer I want to give or none at all. You're so /tough/, sailor.
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