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Don't Knock Moi's Traditional German Volksmusik

Started byJohn Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
First post2016-01-18 17:54 -0800
Last post2016-01-22 13:16 -0800
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  Don't Knock Moi's Traditional German Volksmusik John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 17:54 -0800
    Re: Don't Knock Moi's Traditional German Volksmusik owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-19 02:11 +0000
      Re: Don't Knock Moi's Traditional German Volksmusik tinus61 <tinus61@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-21 06:59 +0100
        Exterminate the Gays! John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 04:14 -0800
        if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 05:19 -0800
          Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago tinus61 <tinus61@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-21 23:22 +0100
            Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-21 17:42 -0500
              Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago tinus61 <tinus61@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-22 00:20 +0100
                Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 15:25 -0800
                  Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago tinus61 <tinus61@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-24 14:08 +0100
                    Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-24 10:24 -0500
                    Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-25 09:35 -0500
                Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-21 18:39 -0500
                Silly myths Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-21 20:22 -0500
                  Re: Silly myths GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-21 20:46 -0700
                    Re: Silly myths Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-22 10:22 -0500
                      Re: Silly myths GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-22 15:32 -0700
                  Re: Silly myths chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-22 07:07 -0600
                    Re: Silly myths GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-22 15:33 -0700
                  Re: Silly myths chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-22 08:33 -0600
                    Re: Silly myths vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-01-22 14:43 +0000
                      Re: Silly myths Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-22 11:59 -0500
                        Re: Silly myths William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-01-22 23:04 +0000
                          Re: Silly myths Penny Tration <fedora_the_explora@asia.com> - 2016-01-22 23:24 +0000
                            Re: Silly myths "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-01-22 23:28 +0000
                              Re: Silly myths Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-22 20:21 -0500
                                Re: Silly myths Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 11:36 -0700
                            Re: Silly myths Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 09:46 -0500
                              Re: Silly myths GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-23 10:33 -0700
                            Re: Silly myths JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-23 17:39 -0600
                              Re: Silly myths William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-01-24 09:52 +0000
                    Re: Silly myths chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-22 08:48 -0600
                Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-01-22 14:16 +0100
                  Ooooh! Look at Adolph junior John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 05:32 -0800
                  Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-22 07:43 -0600
                  Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-22 13:01 -0500
                  Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-22 15:35 -0700
                    I told you so! John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 15:14 -0800
                    Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 09:44 -0500
                      Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-01-23 15:41 +0000
                        Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 11:22 -0500
                      Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-23 10:36 -0700
                        Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 14:26 -0500
                          Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-23 15:08 -0500
                            Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 16:22 -0500
                              Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-23 16:24 -0500
                                Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 16:32 -0500
                                  Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-23 19:04 -0500
                                    Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 21:02 -0500
                                      Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-24 10:44 -0700
                                    Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-24 10:41 -0700
                                      Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-24 14:59 -0500
                                        Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-25 11:10 -0700
                                      Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-24 16:10 -0500
                                        Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-25 11:16 -0700
                                          Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-25 17:22 -0500
                                            Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 12:20 -0700
                                Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-24 10:40 -0700
                          Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-01-23 21:48 +0100
                            Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-23 15:55 -0500
                            Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 16:31 -0500
                              Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-01-23 21:50 +0000
                                Gitcher guns! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-23 18:17 -0500
                                  Re: Gitcher guns! Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-01-24 00:31 +0000
                                    Re: Gitcher guns! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-23 20:31 -0500
                                      Re: Gitcher guns! Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-01-24 01:48 +0000
                                        Re: Gitcher guns! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-24 07:15 -0500
                                        Re: Gitcher guns! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-24 10:46 -0700
                                    Re: Gitcher guns! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-23 19:47 -0600
                                      Re: Gitcher guns! "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-01-24 11:12 +0000
                                        Re: Gitcher guns! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-25 08:13 -0600
                                          Re: Gitcher guns! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-25 11:17 -0700
                                          Re: Gitcher guns! "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-01-26 02:47 +0000
                                            Re: Gitcher guns! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-26 09:50 -0500
                                              Re: Gitcher guns! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-26 09:55 -0500
                                                Re: Gitcher guns! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-26 09:57 -0500
                                                  Re: Gitcher guns! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-26 10:08 -0500
                                                    Re: Gitcher guns! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-26 10:44 -0500
                                                      Re: Gitcher guns! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-26 11:10 -0500
                                                        Re: Gitcher guns! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-26 11:18 -0500
                                                          Re: Gitcher guns! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 09:06 -0800
                                                            Re: Gitcher guns! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 12:24 -0700
                                                        Re: Gitcher guns! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 12:23 -0700
                                                          Re: Gitcher guns! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-27 15:23 -0500
                                                            Re: Gitcher guns! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-27 21:16 +0000
                                                              Re: Gitcher guns! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-27 16:54 -0500
                                                                Re: Gitcher guns! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-28 00:33 +0000
                                                                  Re: Gitcher guns! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-28 20:51 -0500
                                                                Re: Gitcher guns! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-27 20:47 -0500
                                                                  Re: Gitcher guns! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-28 12:26 -0700
                                                            Re: Gitcher guns! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-28 12:23 -0700
                                                              Re: Gitcher guns! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-28 20:21 -0500
                                                          Re: Gitcher guns! Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-27 19:17 -0500
                                                            Re: Gitcher guns! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-28 12:27 -0700
                                                              Re: Gitcher guns! Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-28 14:47 -0500
                                                  Re: Gitcher guns! "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-01-26 23:11 +0000
                                                    Re: Gitcher guns! Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-26 18:49 -0500
                                                      Re: Gitcher guns! "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-01-27 12:12 +0000
                                                        Re: Gitcher guns! Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-27 08:29 -0500
                                                          Re: Gitcher guns! "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-01-28 02:11 +0000
                                                            Re: Gitcher guns! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-28 05:38 -0500
                                                              Re: Gitcher guns! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-28 06:47 -0600
                                                              Re: Gitcher guns! Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 14:03 -0800
                                                                Re: Gitcher guns! Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-01 18:29 -0500
                                                        Re: Gitcher guns! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 12:27 -0700
                                                        Re: Gitcher guns! Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 14:01 -0800
                                                Re: Gitcher guns! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 12:21 -0700
                                              Re: Gitcher guns! "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-01-26 23:10 +0000
                                                Re: Gitcher guns! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 12:28 -0700
                                                  Re: Gitcher guns! Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 14:07 -0800
                                            Re: Gitcher guns! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-26 16:20 +0000
                                          Re: Gitcher guns! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-26 07:05 -0600
                                            Re: Gitcher guns! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-26 10:22 -0600
                                              Re: Gitcher guns! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-26 11:51 -0500
                                                Re: Gitcher guns! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 12:30 -0700
                                                  Re: Gitcher guns! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-27 20:35 -0500
                                                    Re: Gitcher guns! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-28 12:29 -0700
                                                  Re: Gitcher guns! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 12:12 -0700
                                              Re: Gitcher guns! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-26 13:26 -0600
                                                Re: Gitcher guns! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-26 15:25 -0600
                                                  Re: Gitcher guns! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-26 17:26 -0500
                                                    Re: Gitcher guns! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-26 17:05 -0600
                                                      Re: Gitcher guns! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-26 19:01 -0500
                                                        Re: Gitcher guns! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-27 01:26 +0000
                                                      Re: Gitcher guns! "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-01-27 12:13 +0000
                                                      Re: Gitcher guns! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-27 06:57 -0600
                                                        Re: Gitcher guns! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-27 07:59 -0500
                                                Re: Gitcher guns! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-26 19:53 -0500
                                                  Re: Gitcher guns! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-26 20:48 -0500
                                                    Re: Gitcher guns! Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-27 08:27 -0500
                                          Re: Gitcher guns! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-26 18:15 +0000
                                            Re: Gitcher guns! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 12:32 -0700
                                      Re: Gitcher guns! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-25 08:21 -0600
                                        Re: Gitcher guns! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-25 19:39 -0600
                                          Re: Gitcher guns! "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-01-26 02:46 +0000
                                            Re: Gitcher guns! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-26 09:50 -0500
                                              Re: Gitcher guns! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-26 13:55 -0500
                                              Re: Gitcher guns! "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-01-26 23:05 +0000
                                                Re: Gitcher guns! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 12:35 -0700
                                              Re: Gitcher guns! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 12:33 -0700
                                            Re: Gitcher guns! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-26 10:16 -0600
                                              Re: Gitcher guns! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-26 11:50 -0500
                                                Re: Gitcher guns! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-26 14:17 -0500
                                                Re: Gitcher guns! "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-01-26 23:08 +0000
                                                  Re: Gitcher guns! Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-26 18:36 -0500
                                                    Re: Gitcher guns! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-26 20:25 -0500
                                                      Re: Gitcher guns! Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-27 07:49 -0500
                                                        Re: Gitcher guns! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-01-27 16:37 +0100
                                                          Re: Gitcher guns! Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-27 12:14 -0500
                                                          Re: Gitcher guns! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 12:37 -0700
                                                        Re: Gitcher guns! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 12:37 -0700
                                                  Re: Gitcher guns! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 12:36 -0700
                                              Re: Gitcher guns! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-01-26 17:20 +0000
                                                Re: Gitcher guns! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-26 13:18 -0600
                                              Re: Gitcher guns! "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-01-26 23:06 +0000
                                                Re: Gitcher guns! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-27 12:48 -0600
                                                  Re: Gitcher guns! "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-01-28 02:12 +0000
                                              Re: Gitcher guns! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 12:35 -0700
                                          Re: Gitcher guns! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-26 09:49 -0500
                                Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 20:56 -0500
                                  Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-01-24 11:11 +0000
                                    Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-24 07:17 -0500
                              Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-23 19:04 -0500
                                Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 20:58 -0500
                                  Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-01-24 11:15 +0000
                                    Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-24 10:22 -0500
                                      Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-01-24 19:21 +0000
                                        Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-24 14:40 -0500
                                          Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-25 08:00 -0600
                                            Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-25 11:18 -0700
                                              Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-25 17:28 -0500
                                        Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-24 16:15 -0500
                                      Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 11:37 -0700
                                Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-24 10:47 -0700
                                  Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-24 16:11 -0500
                                  Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-24 17:08 -0500
                                    Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-25 09:20 -0500
                                      Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-25 09:33 -0500
                                        Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-25 10:59 -0500
                                          Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-25 11:18 -0500
                                            Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-25 12:50 -0500
                                              Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 11:41 -0700
                                            Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-25 11:24 -0700
                                              Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 12:03 -0700
                                            Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 11:39 -0700
                                        Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-25 11:23 -0700
                                          Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-25 17:29 -0500
                                            Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 13:17 -0700
                                            Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 12:04 -0700
                                          Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 11:54 -0700
                                    Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-25 11:21 -0700
                                      Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-25 18:56 -0500
                                        Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-26 09:44 -0500
                                        Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 13:23 -0700
                            If trolling were genetic it breed out of the "human" race Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-23 18:16 -0500
                              Re: If trolling were genetic it breed out of the "human" race Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-01-24 00:22 +0100
                                Re: If trolling were genetic it breed out of the "human" race GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-24 10:49 -0700
                                  Re: If trolling were genetic it breed out of the "human" race Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-24 16:12 -0500
                            Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-24 10:44 -0700
            I am not interested in what some degenerate like Marti T. van Lin has a say about anything. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 15:22 -0800
            Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-22 08:00 -0600
              Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-22 09:31 -0500
                Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-22 15:36 -0700
              Re: if homosexuality was genetic it would have been bred out of the human race millions of years ago Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 06:32 -0800
    Let us not forget about all those German females with big boobs John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 18:20 -0800
    Re: Don't Knock Moi's Traditional German Volksmusik Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 18:46 -0800
      Re: Don't Knock Moi's Traditional German Volksmusik John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 19:06 -0800
        Re: Don't Knock Moi's Traditional German Volksmusik owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-19 03:28 +0000
          Re: Don't Knock Moi's Traditional German Volksmusik tinus61 <tinus61@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-21 23:25 +0100
            Re: Don't Knock Moi's Traditional German Volksmusik owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-22 00:59 +0000
        Re: Don't Knock Moi's Traditional German Volksmusik Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 22:18 -0800
          Re: Don't Knock Moi's Traditional German Volksmusik John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 06:06 -0800
      Re: Don't Knock Moi's Traditional German Volksmusik Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-19 08:24 -0500
        Re: Don't Knock Moi's Traditional German Volksmusik owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-19 13:37 +0000
        Re: Don't Knock Moi's Traditional German Volksmusik tinus61 <tinus61@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-22 00:03 +0100
          Re: Don't Knock Moi's Traditional German Volksmusik Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-21 18:38 -0500
    Re: Don't Knock Moi's Traditional German Volksmusik John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 15:52 -0800
    Don't Knock Moi's Ethnic Volksmusik John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 05:45 -0800
      Don't Knock Moi's Ethnic Volksmusik John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 13:16 -0800

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#341775 — Re: Gitcher guns!

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-26 09:06 -0800
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<b33d7d8c-19d4-4394-ae04-eeceff5a3fb0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#341761
On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 9:18:27 AM UTC-7, Slimer wrote:
> On 2016-01-26 11:10 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
> > "Slimer" <.m@nsn.s> wrote in message news:n88431$qfj$1@dont-email.me...
> >> On 2016-01-26 10:08 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Apparently, you _DON'T_ pay attention:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/19/california-gun-confiscation_n_2717809.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <quote>
> >>>>> California Gun Confiscation Program Heralded As Model For Nation
> >>>>>
> >>>>> California is the only U.S. state where law enforcement officials
> >>>>> confiscate
> >>>>> guns from the homes of individuals not legally permitted to own them. 
> >>>>> The
> >>>>> program, which takes guns away from criminals and the mentally ill, is
> >>>>> being
> >>>>> heralded as a model for the nation.
> >>>>> </quote>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>> If they ever do try to "change the playing field", then there will be
> >>> something to bitch and complain about. Until then I'm not going to worry
> >>> that they're enforcing the existing laws and taking guns from criminals 
> >>> and
> >>> mentally ill people who are "not legally permitted to own them."
> >>
> >> Except that they DID already change the playing field by denying
> >> California's citizens of a right they had since the creation of the
> >> Constitution. You SHOULD be bitching, but you aren't.
> > 
> > The right to own a gun isn't (and shouldn't be) unconditional. There's 
> > nothing wrong with convicted criminals not being allowed to own guns.
> 
> I agree that they forfeit their right to one if the crime is a violent
> one. If it's a petty crime, I disagree.

I suspect felonies is what he meant.

> > Just like the right to vote... if you're a felon then in most states you 
> > can't vote until after your sentence (and any parole) have been completed or 
> > you can't vote period in other states. Some drunk who has several DUIs loses 
> > their license and isn't allowed to drive.
> 
> Logical.
> 
> > I'm a responsible gun owner in one of the toughest states to get a gun. 
> > Living here I have no problem either getting all the guns I want. I also 
> > have no problem with someone who's a convicted felon losing their right to 
> > buy a gun.
> > 
> > It's just common sense and I'm not going get all worked up over the 
> > inability of convicted felons to legally own guns. And if there's some guy 
> > down the street that just got out of a mental hospital... I don't want him 
> > to have a gun either. It's called common sense. If anything people should be 
> > bitching if felons and mental cases did own guns.
> 
> The definition for "mentally ill" has to be very clear before such a
> thing becomes law


It won't matter, someone's gonna bitch anyway, like they always do. And that's fine but that shouldn't stop the drawing of that line. I would much prefer they enforced existing law before passing new legislation (that they also can't afford to enforce) as that's always slippery slope on this topic. When it comes to rights I don't trust the government, from any political leaning, to do anything other than what they have consistently shown a propensity to do, erode Constitutional rights. The way this is being couched all over the internet is that the 2nd amendment is 'up for grabs' and, strangely, many people are actually buying it. Of course, once you look at what the government has done to the money in this country it sorta makes sense, from the government's POV, they'd believe they could pull off taking away guns. Personally, I don't think it'd be as easy. In my opinion if you want to see a situation of 'ISIS x 10,000' right in your own back yard, go for the U.S. guns. I think that's why the standoff in Oregon is lasting the way it is... well, that, and too many people are aware of the government land grabbing issues going on (where their hands aren't always clean).

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#341913 — Re: Gitcher guns!

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-01-27 12:24 -0700
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<n8b5d0$8jr$8@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341775
On 01/26/16 10:06, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 at 9:18:27 AM UTC-7, Slimer wrote:
>> On 2016-01-26 11:10 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>> "Slimer"<.m@nsn.s>  wrote in message news:n88431$qfj$1@dont-email.me...
>>>> On 2016-01-26 10:08 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apparently, you _DON'T_ pay attention:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/19/california-gun-confiscation_n_2717809.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>> California Gun Confiscation Program Heralded As Model For Nation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> California is the only U.S. state where law enforcement officials
>>>>>>> confiscate
>>>>>>> guns from the homes of individuals not legally permitted to own them.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> program, which takes guns away from criminals and the mentally ill, is
>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>> heralded as a model for the nation.
>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If they ever do try to "change the playing field", then there will be
>>>>> something to bitch and complain about. Until then I'm not going to worry
>>>>> that they're enforcing the existing laws and taking guns from criminals
>>>>> and
>>>>> mentally ill people who are "not legally permitted to own them."
>>>>
>>>> Except that they DID already change the playing field by denying
>>>> California's citizens of a right they had since the creation of the
>>>> Constitution. You SHOULD be bitching, but you aren't.
>>>
>>> The right to own a gun isn't (and shouldn't be) unconditional. There's
>>> nothing wrong with convicted criminals not being allowed to own guns.
>>
>> I agree that they forfeit their right to one if the crime is a violent
>> one. If it's a petty crime, I disagree.
>
> I suspect felonies is what he meant.
>
>>> Just like the right to vote... if you're a felon then in most states you
>>> can't vote until after your sentence (and any parole) have been completed or
>>> you can't vote period in other states. Some drunk who has several DUIs loses
>>> their license and isn't allowed to drive.
>>
>> Logical.
>>
>>> I'm a responsible gun owner in one of the toughest states to get a gun.
>>> Living here I have no problem either getting all the guns I want. I also
>>> have no problem with someone who's a convicted felon losing their right to
>>> buy a gun.
>>>
>>> It's just common sense and I'm not going get all worked up over the
>>> inability of convicted felons to legally own guns. And if there's some guy
>>> down the street that just got out of a mental hospital... I don't want him
>>> to have a gun either. It's called common sense. If anything people should be
>>> bitching if felons and mental cases did own guns.
>>
>> The definition for "mentally ill" has to be very clear before such a
>> thing becomes law
>
>
> It won't matter, someone's gonna bitch anyway, like they always do. And that's fine but that shouldn't stop the drawing of that line. I would much prefer they enforced existing law before passing new legislation (that they also can't afford to enforce) as that's always slippery slope on this topic. When it comes to rights I don't trust the government, from any political leaning, to do anything other than what they have consistently shown a propensity to do, erode Constitutional rights. The way this is being couched all over the internet is that the 2nd amendment is 'up for grabs' and, strangely, many people are actually buying it. Of course, once you look at what the government has done to the money in this country it sorta makes sense, from the government's POV, they'd believe they could pull off taking away guns. Personally, I don't think it'd be as easy. In my opinion if you want to see a situation of 'ISIS x 10,000' right in your own back yard, go for the U.S. guns. I t
hink that's why the standoff in Oregon is lasting the way it is... well, that, and too many people are aware of the government land grabbing issues going on (where their hands aren't always clean).
>
Pretty much spot on.

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#341912 — Re: Gitcher guns!

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-01-27 12:23 -0700
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<n8b5ar$8jr$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341758
On 01/26/16 09:10, Ezekiel wrote:
> "Slimer"<.m@nsn.s>  wrote in message news:n88431$qfj$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 2016-01-26 10:08 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently, you _DON'T_ pay attention:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/19/california-gun-confiscation_n_2717809.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>> California Gun Confiscation Program Heralded As Model For Nation
>>>>>
>>>>> California is the only U.S. state where law enforcement officials
>>>>> confiscate
>>>>> guns from the homes of individuals not legally permitted to own them.
>>>>> The
>>>>> program, which takes guns away from criminals and the mentally ill, is
>>>>> being
>>>>> heralded as a model for the nation.
>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> If they ever do try to "change the playing field", then there will be
>>> something to bitch and complain about. Until then I'm not going to worry
>>> that they're enforcing the existing laws and taking guns from criminals
>>> and
>>> mentally ill people who are "not legally permitted to own them."
>>
>> Except that they DID already change the playing field by denying
>> California's citizens of a right they had since the creation of the
>> Constitution. You SHOULD be bitching, but you aren't.
>
> The right to own a gun isn't (and shouldn't be) unconditional. There's
> nothing wrong with convicted criminals not being allowed to own guns.
>
> Just like the right to vote... if you're a felon then in most states you
> can't vote until after your sentence (and any parole) have been completed or
> you can't vote period in other states. Some drunk who has several DUIs loses
> their license and isn't allowed to drive.
>
> I'm a responsible gun owner in one of the toughest states to get a gun.
> Living here I have no problem either getting all the guns I want. I also
> have no problem with someone who's a convicted felon losing their right to
> buy a gun.
>
> It's just common sense and I'm not going get all worked up over the
> inability of convicted felons to legally own guns. And if there's some guy
> down the street that just got out of a mental hospital... I don't want him
> to have a gun either. It's called common sense. If anything people should be
> bitching if felons and mental cases did own guns.
>
Odd that the constitution makes no mention of any conditions to let you 
own a gun.  It just states that you have the right to bear arms and 
nothing more.  It is the libtards that are slowly redefining the terms.
Bottom line is that these libtards are nothing more than communists.

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#341926 — Re: Gitcher guns!

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2016-01-27 15:23 -0500
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<n8b8pk$tae$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341912
"GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com> wrote in message 
news:n8b5ar$8jr$7@dont-email.me...
> On 01/26/16 09:10, Ezekiel wrote:
>>
>> It's just common sense and I'm not going get all worked up over the
>> inability of convicted felons to legally own guns. And if there's some 
>> guy
>> down the street that just got out of a mental hospital... I don't want 
>> him
>> to have a gun either. It's called common sense. If anything people should 
>> be
>> bitching if felons and mental cases did own guns.
>>
> Odd that the constitution makes no mention of any conditions to let you 
> own a gun.  It just states that you have the right to bear arms and 
> nothing more.  It is the libtards that are slowly redefining the terms.
> Bottom line is that these libtards are nothing more than communists.
>

The entire Bill of Rights is terse and simply worded. The authors didn't go 
into detail on any of the amendments.

Along these lines, the 1st amendment says that Congress shall make no law 
prohibiting you from exercising whatever religion you want. Yet, you can't 
decide that your religion allows you to walk down 5th Avenue completely 
naked. Some radical Muslim can't decide that his religion lets him rape 
women or kill non-believing infidels..

There are sensible limits on religion even though the 1st amendment makes no 
mention of any conditions to limit how you practice your religion. Freedom 
of speech doesn't give you the right to scream fire in a movie theater.

Most everything has reasonable limits and conditions attached. The same 
applies to the 2nd amendment. That's how the SCOTUS has ruled in the past.

-- 
And why does Zeke think that taking Rex's name and converting to 
"Rexxie"would be an impossible act for someone other than "Rex"?  Is Zeke 
stupid, or a kook?

Anyway, I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that that page is yet another faked 
frame-up job intended to further Microsoft's "Evangelism is War" goals...

So who's the k00k?  Obviously, a person that would go to such trouble to try 
to appropriate someone else's persona, post foulness or craziness as if it 
were from that person, and then point everybody to that manufactured 
evidence.


The ignorant Chris Ahlstrom kook. Far too dumb and stupid to recognize the 
facts right in front of his face.
Feb 24, 2014
Message-ID: <legq8a$32v$2@dont-email.me>

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#341934 — Re: Gitcher guns!

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2016-01-27 21:16 +0000
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<ghdkieot983.q@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#341926
Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
> 
> "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com> wrote in message 
> news:n8b5ar$8jr$7@dont-email.me...
>> On 01/26/16 09:10, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>> It's just common sense and I'm not going get all worked up over the
>>> inability of convicted felons to legally own guns. And if there's some 
>>> guy
>>> down the street that just got out of a mental hospital... I don't want 
>>> him
>>> to have a gun either. It's called common sense. If anything people should 
>>> be
>>> bitching if felons and mental cases did own guns.
>>>
>> Odd that the constitution makes no mention of any conditions to let you 
>> own a gun.  It just states that you have the right to bear arms and 
>> nothing more.  It is the libtards that are slowly redefining the terms.
>> Bottom line is that these libtards are nothing more than communists.
>>
> 
> The entire Bill of Rights is terse and simply worded. The authors didn't go 
> into detail on any of the amendments.
> 
> Along these lines, the 1st amendment says that Congress shall make no law 
> prohibiting you from exercising whatever religion you want. Yet, you can't 
> decide that your religion allows you to walk down 5th Avenue completely 
> naked. Some radical Muslim can't decide that his religion lets him rape 
> women or kill non-believing infidels..
> 
> There are sensible limits on religion even though the 1st amendment makes no 
> mention of any conditions to limit how you practice your religion. Freedom 
> of speech doesn't give you the right to scream fire in a movie theater.
> 
> Most everything has reasonable limits and conditions attached. The same 
> applies to the 2nd amendment. That's how the SCOTUS has ruled in the past.
> 

SCOTUS is wrong.

Local ordinances curtailing offensive expressions of religion or
speech are not inconsistent with the First Amendment, since those
restrictions are not the result of laws enacted by Congress. 

The Second Amendment does not suffer the same limited scope as the First
Amendment -- namely, the "Congress shall make no law abridging..." scope
-- and therefore any law enacted by any governmental body that restricts
the right to bear arms of any kind is unconstitutional.

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#341939 — Re: Gitcher guns!

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2016-01-27 16:54 -0500
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<n8be4t$lp1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341934
"owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message 
news:ghdkieot983.q@rooftop.invalid...
> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com> wrote in message
>> news:n8b5ar$8jr$7@dont-email.me...
>>> On 01/26/16 09:10, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It's just common sense and I'm not going get all worked up over the
>>>> inability of convicted felons to legally own guns. And if there's some
>>>> guy
>>>> down the street that just got out of a mental hospital... I don't want
>>>> him
>>>> to have a gun either. It's called common sense. If anything people 
>>>> should
>>>> be
>>>> bitching if felons and mental cases did own guns.
>>>>
>>> Odd that the constitution makes no mention of any conditions to let you
>>> own a gun.  It just states that you have the right to bear arms and
>>> nothing more.  It is the libtards that are slowly redefining the terms.
>>> Bottom line is that these libtards are nothing more than communists.
>>>
>>
>> The entire Bill of Rights is terse and simply worded. The authors didn't 
>> go
>> into detail on any of the amendments.
>>
>> Along these lines, the 1st amendment says that Congress shall make no law
>> prohibiting you from exercising whatever religion you want. Yet, you 
>> can't
>> decide that your religion allows you to walk down 5th Avenue completely
>> naked. Some radical Muslim can't decide that his religion lets him rape
>> women or kill non-believing infidels..
>>
>> There are sensible limits on religion even though the 1st amendment makes 
>> no
>> mention of any conditions to limit how you practice your religion. 
>> Freedom
>> of speech doesn't give you the right to scream fire in a movie theater.
>>
>> Most everything has reasonable limits and conditions attached. The same
>> applies to the 2nd amendment. That's how the SCOTUS has ruled in the 
>> past.
>>
>
> SCOTUS is wrong.
>
Good luck in convincing them that they're wrong.

> Local ordinances curtailing offensive expressions of religion or
> speech are not inconsistent with the First Amendment, since those
> restrictions are not the result of laws enacted by Congress.
>
The point is that even "free speech" isn't without it's limitations.


> The Second Amendment does not suffer the same limited scope as the First
> Amendment -- namely, the "Congress shall make no law abridging..." scope
>
Not all that different from the 1st ammendment:

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
    religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

The "Congress shall make no law" part is there but the constitutional 
freedom of "free exercise" your religion of choice comes with restrictions.


> -- and therefore any law enacted by any governmental body that
> restricts the right to bear arms of any kind is unconstitutional.

Yet there are laws that prohibit people from owning a sawed off shotgun, or 
a bazooka, or a 20mm hydraulically operated, six-barrel, air-cooled, 
electrically fired, rotary cannon like the M61. There are some pretty cool 
guns that I wouldn't mind owning but it's unlikely to happen because of 
laws.

<wikipedia>
Supreme Court justice Antonin Scalia in 2008 wrote that the right to bear 
arms is not unlimited and is subject to reasonable prohibitions and 
regulations and subsequently federal court rulings have upheld existing gun 
prohibitions and regulations.

Nadine Strossen, former president of the American Civil Liberties Union, has 
stated that the individual rights model must yield to reasonable regulation. 
Strossen said "it is no more absolute than freedom of speech or any other 
right in the Constitution. No right is absolute; the government is always 
allowed to restrict the right if it can satisfy Constitutional strict 
scrutiny and show the restriction is narrowly tailored to promote a goal of 
compelling importance."
</wikipedia>

-- 
"Are you stupid enough to do online banking with a mobile phone?"

Crabbit Bampot
<SXUys.17958$KD4.7694@fe08.iad>



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#341944 — Re: Gitcher guns!

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2016-01-28 00:33 +0000
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<gmcnnvjd983.akfi@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#341939
Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
> 
> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:ghdkieot983.q@rooftop.invalid...
>> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com> wrote in message
>>> news:n8b5ar$8jr$7@dont-email.me...
>>>> On 01/26/16 09:10, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It's just common sense and I'm not going get all worked up over the
>>>>> inability of convicted felons to legally own guns. And if there's some
>>>>> guy
>>>>> down the street that just got out of a mental hospital... I don't want
>>>>> him
>>>>> to have a gun either. It's called common sense. If anything people 
>>>>> should
>>>>> be
>>>>> bitching if felons and mental cases did own guns.
>>>>>
>>>> Odd that the constitution makes no mention of any conditions to let you
>>>> own a gun.  It just states that you have the right to bear arms and
>>>> nothing more.  It is the libtards that are slowly redefining the terms.
>>>> Bottom line is that these libtards are nothing more than communists.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The entire Bill of Rights is terse and simply worded. The authors didn't 
>>> go
>>> into detail on any of the amendments.
>>>
>>> Along these lines, the 1st amendment says that Congress shall make no law
>>> prohibiting you from exercising whatever religion you want. Yet, you 
>>> can't
>>> decide that your religion allows you to walk down 5th Avenue completely
>>> naked. Some radical Muslim can't decide that his religion lets him rape
>>> women or kill non-believing infidels..
>>>
>>> There are sensible limits on religion even though the 1st amendment makes 
>>> no
>>> mention of any conditions to limit how you practice your religion. 
>>> Freedom
>>> of speech doesn't give you the right to scream fire in a movie theater.
>>>
>>> Most everything has reasonable limits and conditions attached. The same
>>> applies to the 2nd amendment. That's how the SCOTUS has ruled in the 
>>> past.
>>>
>>
>> SCOTUS is wrong.
>>
> Good luck in convincing them that they're wrong.
> 

The fact that I can't convince them they're wrong does not make
them any less wrong.

>> Local ordinances curtailing offensive expressions of religion or
>> speech are not inconsistent with the First Amendment, since those
>> restrictions are not the result of laws enacted by Congress.
>>
> The point is that even "free speech" isn't without it's limitations.
> 

Right.  It is protected only from Congress enacting laws against it.
Unlike the right to bear arms, which is simply protected.  Period.

> 
>> The Second Amendment does not suffer the same limited scope as the First
>> Amendment -- namely, the "Congress shall make no law abridging..." scope
>>
> Not all that different from the 1st ammendment:
> 
>     "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
>     religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
> 
> The "Congress shall make no law" part is there but the constitutional 
> freedom of "free exercise" your religion of choice comes with restrictions.
>

That "Congress shall make no law" part *is* the restriction.
 
> 
>> -- and therefore any law enacted by any governmental body that
>> restricts the right to bear arms of any kind is unconstitutional.
> 
> Yet there are laws that prohibit people from owning a sawed off shotgun, or 
> a bazooka, or a 20mm hydraulically operated, six-barrel, air-cooled, 
> electrically fired, rotary cannon like the M61.

And they are unconstitutional.

> There are some pretty cool 
> guns that I wouldn't mind owning but it's unlikely to happen because of 
> laws.
>

Jump through the ATF hoops, live in the right state, and have enough
money to pay the exhorbitant prices, and you can get about anything you
want legally.  Without the unconstitutional laws, everybody would be
able to.  Paul Allen has a personal Panzer, yet funnels money to anti-
gun legislation activists.
 
> <wikipedia>
> Supreme Court justice Antonin Scalia in 2008 wrote that the right to bear 
> arms is not unlimited and is subject to reasonable prohibitions and 
> regulations and subsequently federal court rulings have upheld existing gun 
> prohibitions and regulations.
> 

He is wrong.


> Nadine Strossen, former president of the American Civil Liberties Union, has 
> stated that the individual rights model must yield to reasonable regulation. 
> Strossen said "it is no more absolute than freedom of speech or any other 
> right in the Constitution. No right is absolute; the government is always 
> allowed to restrict the right if it can satisfy Constitutional strict 
> scrutiny and show the restriction is narrowly tailored to promote a goal of 
> compelling importance."
> </wikipedia>
> 

She is wrong.

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#342033 — Re: Gitcher guns!

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2016-01-28 20:51 -0500
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<n8egdi$5jl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341944
"owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message 
news:gmcnnvjd983.akfi@rooftop.invalid...
> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:ghdkieot983.q@rooftop.invalid...
>>> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:n8b5ar$8jr$7@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 01/26/16 09:10, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most everything has reasonable limits and conditions attached. The same
>>>> applies to the 2nd amendment. That's how the SCOTUS has ruled in the
>>>> past.
>>>>
>>>
>>> SCOTUS is wrong.
>>>
>> Good luck in convincing them that they're wrong.
>>
>
> The fact that I can't convince them they're wrong does not make
> them any less wrong.
>
>>
>> Yet there are laws that prohibit people from owning a sawed off shotgun, 
>> or
>> a bazooka, or a 20mm hydraulically operated, six-barrel, air-cooled,
>> electrically fired, rotary cannon like the M61.
>
> And they are unconstitutional.
>
>> There are some pretty cool
>> guns that I wouldn't mind owning but it's unlikely to happen because of
>> laws.
>>
>
> Jump through the ATF hoops, live in the right state, and have enough
> money to pay the exhorbitant prices, and you can get about anything you
> want legally.  Without the unconstitutional laws, everybody would be
> able to.  Paul Allen has a personal Panzer, yet funnels money to anti-
> gun legislation activists.
>
>> <wikipedia>
>> Supreme Court justice Antonin Scalia in 2008 wrote that the right to bear
>> arms is not unlimited and is subject to reasonable prohibitions and
>> regulations and subsequently federal court rulings have upheld existing 
>> gun
>> prohibitions and regulations.
>>
>
> He is wrong.
>

I see it this way. There are rules in chess, rules in baseball and you gotta 
have some sort of rules in the game of life.

If the rule is that "criminals and mentally ill" people don't get to own 
weapons and 'normal people' don't get to own cruise missiles then I'm okay 
with a few reasonable rules.


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#341952 — Re: Gitcher guns!

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2016-01-27 20:47 -0500
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<n8brqs$4t4$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341939
On 1/27/2016 4:54 PM, Ezekiel wrote:

> The point is that even "free speech" isn't without it's limitations.


A dumbass I know drove around with guns in his front seat.  He
got pulled over in NY state (for speeding), didn't even bother to hide 
them, and the cop nailed him.  As I recall, he spent 2 weeks in jail, a 
year on probation, and I'm pretty sure a felony gun possession on his 
record.

The moron later whined to me "But it's a free country!"

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#341997 — Re: Gitcher guns!

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-01-28 12:26 -0700
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<n8dpsb$j7r$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341952
On 01/27/16 18:47, DFS wrote:
> On 1/27/2016 4:54 PM, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> The point is that even "free speech" isn't without it's limitations.
>
>
> A dumbass I know drove around with guns in his front seat. He
> got pulled over in NY state (for speeding), didn't even bother to hide
> them, and the cop nailed him. As I recall, he spent 2 weeks in jail, a
> year on probation, and I'm pretty sure a felony gun possession on his
> record.
>
> The moron later whined to me "But it's a free country!"
>
>
In NY or anywhere else this is called a shakedown for his money.
Sort of like the old mobster days going into a business and saying "Pay 
for protection and you won't get hurt, otherwise you'll be wearing 
concrete sneakers".
I see no difference between the mobsters and government.

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#341996 — Re: Gitcher guns!

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-01-28 12:23 -0700
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<n8dpmi$j7r$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341926
On 01/27/16 13:23, Ezekiel wrote:
> "GreyCloud"<mist@cumulus.com>  wrote in message
> news:n8b5ar$8jr$7@dont-email.me...
>> On 01/26/16 09:10, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>> It's just common sense and I'm not going get all worked up over the
>>> inability of convicted felons to legally own guns. And if there's some
>>> guy
>>> down the street that just got out of a mental hospital... I don't want
>>> him
>>> to have a gun either. It's called common sense. If anything people should
>>> be
>>> bitching if felons and mental cases did own guns.
>>>
>> Odd that the constitution makes no mention of any conditions to let you
>> own a gun.  It just states that you have the right to bear arms and
>> nothing more.  It is the libtards that are slowly redefining the terms.
>> Bottom line is that these libtards are nothing more than communists.
>>
>
> The entire Bill of Rights is terse and simply worded. The authors didn't go
> into detail on any of the amendments.
>
> Along these lines, the 1st amendment says that Congress shall make no law
> prohibiting you from exercising whatever religion you want. Yet, you can't
> decide that your religion allows you to walk down 5th Avenue completely
> naked. Some radical Muslim can't decide that his religion lets him rape
> women or kill non-believing infidels..
>
> There are sensible limits on religion even though the 1st amendment makes no
> mention of any conditions to limit how you practice your religion. Freedom
> of speech doesn't give you the right to scream fire in a movie theater.
>
> Most everything has reasonable limits and conditions attached. The same
> applies to the 2nd amendment. That's how the SCOTUS has ruled in the past.
>
Depends on whom appointed judges to SCOTUS and their agenda.
It may well be that this is an old planned agendga that most people 
don't know about.
No where in the 2nd ammendment does it mention conditions.  We are 
supposed to be a free people.  So even tho the gun laws are on the 
books, they are mostly not enforced in the spirit of the law, so where 
in the 2nd ammendment does it mention that you have to have a permit to 
carry any arms?  It doesn't.  If you appoint most of these judges, from 
their background checks if any, and they all happen to be 
socialists/communists, you have an insurgency here.  They will do 
whatever it takes to skew and twist the meaning of the 2nd ammendment by 
appealing to reason, but never showing their true intent.  Tyrants do 
not like an armed populace.  History bears this out.

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#342018 — Re: Gitcher guns!

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2016-01-28 20:21 -0500
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<n8eekg$117$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341996
"GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com> wrote in message 
news:n8dpmi$j7r$1@dont-email.me...
> On 01/27/16 13:23, Ezekiel wrote:
>> "GreyCloud"<mist@cumulus.com>  wrote in message
>> news:n8b5ar$8jr$7@dont-email.me...
>>> On 01/26/16 09:10, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>
>>
>> There are sensible limits on religion even though the 1st amendment makes 
>> no
>> mention of any conditions to limit how you practice your religion. 
>> Freedom
>> of speech doesn't give you the right to scream fire in a movie theater.
>>
>> Most everything has reasonable limits and conditions attached. The same
>> applies to the 2nd amendment. That's how the SCOTUS has ruled in the 
>> past.
>>
> Depends on whom appointed judges to SCOTUS and their agenda.
> It may well be that this is an old planned agendga that most people don't 
> know about.
> No where in the 2nd ammendment does it mention conditions.

The entire Bill of Rights is very short and terse. The 2nd ammendment is 
only 27 words.

   A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a
   free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,
   shall not be infringed.

The 1st ammendment (freedom of speech, religion...) isn't much longer at 45 
words.

I think those guys were smart enough to realize they can't see the future. 
Engraved on the Jefferson Memorial is this which Thomas Jefferson strongly 
believed in:

    "I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, 
but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the 
human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new 
discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, 
with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep 
pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat 
which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the 
regimen of their barbarous ancestors."

Jefferson didn't even have electricity and he wouldn't even recognize our 
world. I believe the founding fathers were basically laying down the 
foundation, planting a seed and saying - We got this country started and 
it's now your turn to run with the ball. Keep the laws current and relevant 
but don't ever forget the core values.


> We are supposed to be a free people.

And I want to be free from "criminals and the mentally ill" having a gun. I 
also want to be free from some neighbor having nuclear weapons. Stuff like 
this is a bigger issue today than it was back in the 1700's.

No nukes but I'm still free enough where I own some very nice firearms that 
Jefferson couldn't even image.

> So even tho the gun laws are on the books, they are mostly not enforced in 
> the spirit of the law, so where in the 2nd ammendment does it mention that 
> you have to have a permit to carry any arms?  It doesn't.  If you appoint 
> most of these judges, from their background checks if any, and they all 
> happen to be socialists/communists, you have an insurgency here.  They 
> will do whatever it takes to skew and twist the meaning of the 2nd 
> ammendment by appealing to reason, but never showing their true intent. 
> Tyrants do not like an armed populace.  History bears this out.
> 

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#341942 — Re: Gitcher guns!

FromSlimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid>
Date2016-01-27 19:17 -0500
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<n8bmh3$mi9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341912
On 2016-01-27 2:23 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> On 01/26/16 09:10, Ezekiel wrote:
>> "Slimer"<.m@nsn.s>  wrote in message news:n88431$qfj$1@dont-email.me...
>>> On 2016-01-26 10:08 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apparently, you _DON'T_ pay attention:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/19/california-gun-confiscation_n_2717809.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>> California Gun Confiscation Program Heralded As Model For Nation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> California is the only U.S. state where law enforcement officials
>>>>>> confiscate
>>>>>> guns from the homes of individuals not legally permitted to own them.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> program, which takes guns away from criminals and the mentally
>>>>>> ill, is
>>>>>> being
>>>>>> heralded as a model for the nation.
>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If they ever do try to "change the playing field", then there will be
>>>> something to bitch and complain about. Until then I'm not going to
>>>> worry
>>>> that they're enforcing the existing laws and taking guns from criminals
>>>> and
>>>> mentally ill people who are "not legally permitted to own them."
>>>
>>> Except that they DID already change the playing field by denying
>>> California's citizens of a right they had since the creation of the
>>> Constitution. You SHOULD be bitching, but you aren't.
>>
>> The right to own a gun isn't (and shouldn't be) unconditional. There's
>> nothing wrong with convicted criminals not being allowed to own guns.
>>
>> Just like the right to vote... if you're a felon then in most states you
>> can't vote until after your sentence (and any parole) have been
>> completed or
>> you can't vote period in other states. Some drunk who has several DUIs
>> loses
>> their license and isn't allowed to drive.
>>
>> I'm a responsible gun owner in one of the toughest states to get a gun.
>> Living here I have no problem either getting all the guns I want. I also
>> have no problem with someone who's a convicted felon losing their
>> right to
>> buy a gun.
>>
>> It's just common sense and I'm not going get all worked up over the
>> inability of convicted felons to legally own guns. And if there's some
>> guy
>> down the street that just got out of a mental hospital... I don't want
>> him
>> to have a gun either. It's called common sense. If anything people
>> should be
>> bitching if felons and mental cases did own guns.
>>
> Odd that the constitution makes no mention of any conditions to let you
> own a gun.  It just states that you have the right to bear arms and
> nothing more.  It is the libtards that are slowly redefining the terms.
> Bottom line is that these libtards are nothing more than communists.

Libtards are also the reason why Europe will soon cease to exist and
become yet another breeding ground for the kind, wonderful,
peace-loving, sand-sucking, pedophile-admiring, egomaniac-worshipping
vermin known as Muslims.


-- 
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Conservative Party of Canada, Mozilla &
PETA supporter

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#341998 — Re: Gitcher guns!

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-01-28 12:27 -0700
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<n8dpuq$j7r$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341942
On 01/27/16 17:17, Slimer wrote:
> On 2016-01-27 2:23 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> On 01/26/16 09:10, Ezekiel wrote:
>>> "Slimer"<.m@nsn.s>   wrote in message news:n88431$qfj$1@dont-email.me...
>>>> On 2016-01-26 10:08 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apparently, you _DON'T_ pay attention:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/19/california-gun-confiscation_n_2717809.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>> California Gun Confiscation Program Heralded As Model For Nation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> California is the only U.S. state where law enforcement officials
>>>>>>> confiscate
>>>>>>> guns from the homes of individuals not legally permitted to own them.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> program, which takes guns away from criminals and the mentally
>>>>>>> ill, is
>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>> heralded as a model for the nation.
>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If they ever do try to "change the playing field", then there will be
>>>>> something to bitch and complain about. Until then I'm not going to
>>>>> worry
>>>>> that they're enforcing the existing laws and taking guns from criminals
>>>>> and
>>>>> mentally ill people who are "not legally permitted to own them."
>>>>
>>>> Except that they DID already change the playing field by denying
>>>> California's citizens of a right they had since the creation of the
>>>> Constitution. You SHOULD be bitching, but you aren't.
>>>
>>> The right to own a gun isn't (and shouldn't be) unconditional. There's
>>> nothing wrong with convicted criminals not being allowed to own guns.
>>>
>>> Just like the right to vote... if you're a felon then in most states you
>>> can't vote until after your sentence (and any parole) have been
>>> completed or
>>> you can't vote period in other states. Some drunk who has several DUIs
>>> loses
>>> their license and isn't allowed to drive.
>>>
>>> I'm a responsible gun owner in one of the toughest states to get a gun.
>>> Living here I have no problem either getting all the guns I want. I also
>>> have no problem with someone who's a convicted felon losing their
>>> right to
>>> buy a gun.
>>>
>>> It's just common sense and I'm not going get all worked up over the
>>> inability of convicted felons to legally own guns. And if there's some
>>> guy
>>> down the street that just got out of a mental hospital... I don't want
>>> him
>>> to have a gun either. It's called common sense. If anything people
>>> should be
>>> bitching if felons and mental cases did own guns.
>>>
>> Odd that the constitution makes no mention of any conditions to let you
>> own a gun.  It just states that you have the right to bear arms and
>> nothing more.  It is the libtards that are slowly redefining the terms.
>> Bottom line is that these libtards are nothing more than communists.
>
> Libtards are also the reason why Europe will soon cease to exist and
> become yet another breeding ground for the kind, wonderful,
> peace-loving, sand-sucking, pedophile-admiring, egomaniac-worshipping
> vermin known as Muslims.
>
>
They're trying to do that here.  Obama is still importing illegals and 
muslims here.  Its his agenda and it sticks out quite obviously that he 
is also a muslim.
Birds of the same feather flock together.

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#342004 — Re: Gitcher guns!

FromSlimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid>
Date2016-01-28 14:47 -0500
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<n8dr2o$osq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341998
On 2016-01-28 2:27 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> On 01/27/16 17:17, Slimer wrote:
>> On 2016-01-27 2:23 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>> On 01/26/16 09:10, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>> "Slimer"<.m@nsn.s>   wrote in message
>>>> news:n88431$qfj$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>> On 2016-01-26 10:08 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apparently, you _DON'T_ pay attention:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/19/california-gun-confiscation_n_2717809.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>> California Gun Confiscation Program Heralded As Model For Nation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> California is the only U.S. state where law enforcement officials
>>>>>>>> confiscate
>>>>>>>> guns from the homes of individuals not legally permitted to own
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>> program, which takes guns away from criminals and the mentally
>>>>>>>> ill, is
>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>> heralded as a model for the nation.
>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If they ever do try to "change the playing field", then there will be
>>>>>> something to bitch and complain about. Until then I'm not going to
>>>>>> worry
>>>>>> that they're enforcing the existing laws and taking guns from
>>>>>> criminals
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> mentally ill people who are "not legally permitted to own them."
>>>>>
>>>>> Except that they DID already change the playing field by denying
>>>>> California's citizens of a right they had since the creation of the
>>>>> Constitution. You SHOULD be bitching, but you aren't.
>>>>
>>>> The right to own a gun isn't (and shouldn't be) unconditional. There's
>>>> nothing wrong with convicted criminals not being allowed to own guns.
>>>>
>>>> Just like the right to vote... if you're a felon then in most states
>>>> you
>>>> can't vote until after your sentence (and any parole) have been
>>>> completed or
>>>> you can't vote period in other states. Some drunk who has several DUIs
>>>> loses
>>>> their license and isn't allowed to drive.
>>>>
>>>> I'm a responsible gun owner in one of the toughest states to get a gun.
>>>> Living here I have no problem either getting all the guns I want. I
>>>> also
>>>> have no problem with someone who's a convicted felon losing their
>>>> right to
>>>> buy a gun.
>>>>
>>>> It's just common sense and I'm not going get all worked up over the
>>>> inability of convicted felons to legally own guns. And if there's some
>>>> guy
>>>> down the street that just got out of a mental hospital... I don't want
>>>> him
>>>> to have a gun either. It's called common sense. If anything people
>>>> should be
>>>> bitching if felons and mental cases did own guns.
>>>>
>>> Odd that the constitution makes no mention of any conditions to let you
>>> own a gun.  It just states that you have the right to bear arms and
>>> nothing more.  It is the libtards that are slowly redefining the terms.
>>> Bottom line is that these libtards are nothing more than communists.
>>
>> Libtards are also the reason why Europe will soon cease to exist and
>> become yet another breeding ground for the kind, wonderful,
>> peace-loving, sand-sucking, pedophile-admiring, egomaniac-worshipping
>> vermin known as Muslims.
>>
>>
> They're trying to do that here.  Obama is still importing illegals and
> muslims here.  Its his agenda and it sticks out quite obviously that he
> is also a muslim.
> Birds of the same feather flock together.
> 
Obama must be either blind or stupid not to notice how much damage
they've been doing in the past few days, weeks and months with their
rapes and assaults of people on Europe. There's only so much that you
can ignore before you finally admit the problem and realize that maybe,
just maybe these Muslims are neither kind, wonderful or peace-loving and
you seal the door shut on them. I get along with the Muslims that are
here, but they went ahead and emigrated to this country _properly_ and
were not given anything on their arrival. Meanwhile, the "refugees"
Obama and the Chris Ahsltrom-like faggot running things in Canada not
only welcomes them first-hand when they arrive but now wants to refund
any money they spent coming here. It's disgusting, especially when you
consider how poorly they integrate and how easily they damage our culture.

If Muslims insist on coming here, I expect them to at least integrate.
If they can't, fuck 'em. Deporting them is not an option as even their
country of origin doesn't want their vermin ass anymore. Might as well
stuff them into containers and drop them in the middle of the ocean
where Allah will welcome them with open arms.

-- 
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Conservative Party of Canada, Mozilla &
PETA supporter

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#341813 — Re: Gitcher guns!

From"Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid>
Date2016-01-26 23:11 +0000
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<XnsA59BB921E6E7johngrubor@178.63.61.145>
In reply to#341745
Slimer <.m@nsn.s> wrote in news:n881c3$cpv$2@dont-email.me:

> What bothers me is that you Americans actually believe that the
> government will apply this to the letter and won't change the playing
> field even though they have done so repeatedly over the last two
> centuries. History repeats itself because none of you are willing to
> learn it and apply its lessons to your current existence.

You really should worry about matters in your own country. You're horribly 
informed about what's going on here, that much is obvious.

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#341816 — Re: Gitcher guns!

FromSlimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid>
Date2016-01-26 18:49 -0500
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<n890hf$qgc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341813
On 2016-01-26 6:11 PM, Dr. John Grubor wrote:
> Slimer <.m@nsn.s> wrote in news:n881c3$cpv$2@dont-email.me:
> 
>> What bothers me is that you Americans actually believe that the
>> government will apply this to the letter and won't change the playing
>> field even though they have done so repeatedly over the last two
>> centuries. History repeats itself because none of you are willing to
>> learn it and apply its lessons to your current existence.
> 
> You really should worry about matters in your own country. You're horribly 
> informed about what's going on here, that much is obvious.

I'm not, you're just in denial. I'm looking forward to seeing your
country follow France into becoming an official police state. Enjoy your
left-wing president.


-- 
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Conservative Party of Canada, Mozilla &
PETA supporter

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#341861 — Re: Gitcher guns!

From"Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid>
Date2016-01-27 12:12 +0000
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<XnsA59C4946588A8johngrubor@178.63.61.145>
In reply to#341816
Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> wrote in news:n890hf$qgc$1@dont-email.me:

> I'm not, you're just in denial. I'm looking forward to seeing your
> country follow France into becoming an official police state. Enjoy your
> left-wing president.

Thank you, we will.

You understand he has just a few months left in office, correct?

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#341878 — Re: Gitcher guns!

FromSlimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid>
Date2016-01-27 08:29 -0500
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<n8agia$16j$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341861
On 2016-01-27 7:12 AM, Dr. John Grubor wrote:
> Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> wrote in news:n890hf$qgc$1@dont-email.me:
> 
>> I'm not, you're just in denial. I'm looking forward to seeing your
>> country follow France into becoming an official police state. Enjoy your
>> left-wing president.
> 
> Thank you, we will.
> 
> You understand he has just a few months left in office, correct?

And you understand that Democrats have the choice between a mentally-ill
criminal and a Communist to replace him, right?

-- 
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Conservative Party of Canada, Mozilla &
PETA supporter

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#341959 — Re: Gitcher guns!

From"Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid>
Date2016-01-28 02:11 +0000
SubjectRe: Gitcher guns!
Message-ID<XnsA59CD781C5A73johngrubor@178.63.61.145>
In reply to#341878
Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> wrote in news:n8agia$16j$2@dont-email.me:

> And you understand that Democrats have the choice between a mentally-ill
> criminal and a Communist to replace him, right?

Bah. Arguing with you is pointless, so I'll refrain as I promised before. 
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