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Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC.

Started byFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
First post2015-11-09 02:20 +0000
Last post2015-11-16 11:41 -0700
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  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 02:20 +0000
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 18:55 -0800
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 20:02 -0700
      Circus Alert.. Don't take the bait Fabian Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 22:11 -0500
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 04:22 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 21:50 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 05:13 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 22:38 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 10:45 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-16 09:25 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-16 19:09 +0100
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-16 18:59 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-11-09 04:38 -0800
        Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-08 21:30 -0800
          Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 06:18 +0000
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 12:43 +0000
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:09 -0700
              Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:28 -0800
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:03 -0700
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-09 20:26 +0000
              Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:27 -0700
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-09 15:39 -0500
              Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 15:45 -0500
              Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-09 21:53 +0100
                Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 16:01 -0500
                Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 17:14 -0500
                  Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 15:18 -0700
                  Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 17:48 -0500
                  Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-10 01:58 +0100
                Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:28 -0700
                  Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-10 02:30 +0100
                    Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:24 -0700
                    Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-10 22:50 +0000
          Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 06:31 +0000
            Fabian Russell is disabled. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-08 23:12 -0800
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:03 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 03:12 -0500
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:04 -0700
        Rot in Hell, Russell.  There Moi fixed your 1st post. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 02:31 -0800
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 12:39 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 06:47 -0800
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 15:35 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 07:51 -0800
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 16:31 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:32 -0800
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:01 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 20:04 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 15:18 -0500
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 21:01 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 16:08 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:35 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 13:54 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 20:54 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 21:13 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 17:17 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 23:24 +0100
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 17:36 -0500
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:37 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:32 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 13:04 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:30 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 18:44 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 03:58 +0000
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:38 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 08:18 -0500
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 15:15 +0000
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 10:49 -0500
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 07:54 -0800
                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 11:21 -0500
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 08:46 -0800
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:27 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:25 -0700
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 12:45 -0700
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 22:30 +0000
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 17:37 -0500
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:04 -0700
                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 01:30 +0000
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:59 -0700
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 03:15 +0000
                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-11 07:22 +0000
                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 10:20 -0700
                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 21:32 +0000
                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 14:51 -0700
                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:13 +0000
                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 23:17 +0100
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:28 -0700
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:38 +0000
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:40 -0500
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-12 23:24 +0000
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 00:33 +0000
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 10:57 +0000
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-13 12:21 +0100
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 12:26 +0000
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-13 14:57 +0100
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 17:04 +0000
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-13 07:25 -0600
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 11:48 -0500
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 17:09 +0000
                                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 20:39 +0000
                                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 15:43 -0500
                                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 21:30 +0000
                                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-16 09:27 +0000
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 22:18 +0000
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-16 09:29 +0000
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:39 -0500
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 10:55 +0000
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:26 -0700
                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:26 -0700
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:42 +0000
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 16:06 -0700
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 23:25 +0000
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-12 23:36 +0000
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:46 -0500
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 00:35 +0000
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:54 -0700
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:53 -0700
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 15:36 -0800
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 17:40 -0700
                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:37 -0500
                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 00:40 +0000
                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:01 -0700
                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 01:29 +0000
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:47 -0700
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:29 +0000
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 19:34 -0700
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 21:45 -0500
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 19:05 -0800
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 21:03 -0500
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:26 +0000
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 19:35 -0700
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:51 +0000
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 22:00 -0500
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 03:36 +0000
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 22:41 -0500
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 19:46 -0800
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 20:00 -0700
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 03:18 +0000
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 01:49 -0700
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 10:27 -0500
                                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 11:15 -0500
                                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-13 11:30 -0500
                                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 11:32 -0500
                                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 08:45 -0800
                                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 12:12 -0500
                                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:25 -0700
                                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 12:27 -0500
                                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:41 -0700
                                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 12:40 -0500
                                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:47 -0700
                                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 12:52 -0500
                                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 10:25 -0500
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 10:28 -0500
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 11:52 -0500
                                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:02 -0700
                                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 12:15 -0500
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 08:24 -0800
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 12:52 -0500
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 21:44 -0500
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 10:24 -0500
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-14 01:01 +0000
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 20:08 -0500
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 20:17 -0500
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 02:07 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 21:48 +0100
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 14:23 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 21:25 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 14:37 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:41 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 21:07 -0500
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:05 +0000
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:48 -0700
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 08:20 -0500
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 15:18 +0000
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:29 -0700
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:28 -0700
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 12:46 -0700
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:36 -0700
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 18:32 -0500
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:39 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 18:46 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:09 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:47 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 08:21 -0500
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 14:48 +0100
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 10:34 -0500
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 18:27 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:31 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 20:51 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 21:21 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 21:49 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 15:12 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:48 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:14 +0000
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:47 -0700
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:33 -0700
              GhostScipt works well on Windows. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-09 16:09 -0800
                Re: GhostScipt works well on Windows. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 19:54 -0500
                  Re: GhostScipt works well on Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:49 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-11-10 03:23 -0800
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-11 09:42 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 13:29 +0100
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-11 13:08 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 16:58 -0500
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:43 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:18 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:46 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:49 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:48 -0700
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 04:56 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 22:15 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 05:27 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 22:43 -0700
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-11-09 04:35 -0800
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 06:46 -0800
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 10:14 +0000
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 18:02 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:15 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:06 -0700
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 14:13 -0500
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-09 06:13 -0500
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 12:32 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:38 -0500
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-09 07:51 -0600
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-09 09:48 -0500
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-09 10:03 -0500
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 18:05 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-09 13:19 -0500
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 14:24 -0500
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:08 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 16:35 -0500
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 13:52 -0500
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:17 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:07 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 21:46 +0100
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 14:26 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:52 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-10 02:54 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:51 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 10:27 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 06:52 -0500
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 13:21 +0100
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 07:39 -0500
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:55 -0700
                    Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-10 07:12 -0600
                      Re: Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-10 08:22 -0500
                      Re: Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:58 -0700
                      Re: Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-11 09:27 -0600
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:58 -0700
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-10 22:01 +0000
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 23:15 +0100
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:38 -0700
                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 00:45 +0100
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-11 14:15 -0700
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:10 -0700
                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 17:33 -0800
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 21:58 +0000
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 23:15 +0100
                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:19 +0000
                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:30 -0700
                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 00:37 +0000
                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:00 -0700
                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 01:24 +0000
                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:46 -0700
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:28 +0000
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 19:34 -0700
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-13 10:27 +0100
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 02:41 -0700
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 09:44 +0000
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:23 -0700
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 11:06 -0500
                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 17:27 -0800
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:24 -0700
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 15:33 -0800
                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 10:05 +0100
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-11 11:20 +0000
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 13:27 +0100
                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 10:36 -0700
                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 22:58 +0100
                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:15 -0700
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-11 06:15 -0500
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:37 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 09:31 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:55 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:54 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-11 20:05 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 10:03 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 10:18 +0100
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 11:40 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 11:40 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 21:14 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:53 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-10 18:00 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:39 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-11 18:00 -0500
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-11 20:02 -0700
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 06:46 +0000
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 11:41 -0700
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-12 09:22 -0500
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 11:43 -0700
                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-12 18:07 -0500
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-13 07:35 -0600
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:58 -0700
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:57 -0700
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-14 07:30 -0500
                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-14 12:18 -0700
                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-14 22:09 -0500
                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-14 20:12 -0700
                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-15 03:31 +0000
                                        To dvus. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 11:40 -0700
                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-15 10:46 -0500
                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 11:38 -0700
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-16 14:47 -0500
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-16 20:26 +0000
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-16 14:43 -0600
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-16 14:19 -0700
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 15:39 -0700
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 15:38 -0700
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 15:37 -0700
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-17 05:30 -0500
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-17 14:57 -0700
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-17 20:04 -0500
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-17 19:26 -0700
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 08:14 -0500
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-11-09 06:52 -0800
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Bob Loblaw <BL@LinuxProfessionals.com> - 2015-11-15 11:05 -0500
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 11:41 -0700

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#332122

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-11-09 18:30 -0700
Message-ID<HvCdnUJAd5oq1dzLnZ2dnUU7-LGdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#331948
On 11/09/15 13:04, Snit wrote:
> On 11/9/15, 1:01 PM, in article
> 4o2dnZlD0KU7Zt3LnZ2dnUU7-RudnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud"<cumulus@mist.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> The computer is working to accommodate the ignoramus who never bothered
>>> to take the time to learn about computers even though they are an integral
>>> and indispensable part of our civilization.
>>>
>>> There, I fixed that for you.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> What text file do you mean? Old .ini files? If so, sure, a general user
>>>> should never have to see those.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah,  Now we are faced with that uniquely Microsoft monstrosity known as
>>> the REGISTRY.
>>>
>>> How about that registry, eh?  The registry is an inaccessible heap of garbage
>>> that also forms a gigantic weak spot for complete OS failure.  Microsoft
>>> deserves a medal for that idea.
>>>
>>
>> More FUD.  Never had trouble with the registry.
>> The OS never has failed me or anybody else that uses windows.
>
> In XP and before I used to see Registry errors... but I have not seen any in
> years. No, I do not think it is a great design but it is not the problem he
> is working to make it seem.
>
>
It is just the way windows works is all.  A lot of these advocates can't 
adjust it seems.


-- 
My problem is that I don't have enough middle fingers.

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#332130

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-09 18:44 -0700
Message-ID<D2669A23.635D2%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#332122
On 11/9/15, 6:30 PM, in article
HvCdnUJAd5oq1dzLnZ2dnUU7-LGdnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <cumulus@mist.com>
wrote:

>>>> How about that registry, eh?  The registry is an inaccessible heap of
>>>> garbage
>>>> that also forms a gigantic weak spot for complete OS failure.  Microsoft
>>>> deserves a medal for that idea.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> More FUD.  Never had trouble with the registry.
>>> The OS never has failed me or anybody else that uses windows.
>> 
>> In XP and before I used to see Registry errors... but I have not seen any in
>> years. No, I do not think it is a great design but it is not the problem he
>> is working to make it seem.
>> 
>> 
> It is just the way windows works is all.  A lot of these advocates can't
> adjust it seems.

The value of a tool is what it does. Linux does MANY things great... but it
does not compete well on the desktop.

If it did they would be posted examples of where it serves them well. Notice
how rarely they do.

-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#332178

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-10 03:58 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.10.03.56.53@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#332130
On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 18:44:51 -0700, Snit wrote:

> 
> The value of a tool is what it does. Linux does MANY things great... but it
> does not compete well on the desktop.
> 

Sayeth whom?

I've been using Linux on MY desktop since 1998 for a variety of purposes,
including but not limited to document production, image/video/sound processing,
CD/DVD/Blu-ray burning, scientific computing, programming, HTML editing, etc.

My MS Windows boxen are mere paperweights (and to fool the cops).

Whoever DOESN'T use Linux is a brain-dead fool.

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#332183

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-09 21:38 -0700
Message-ID<D266C2E8.63625%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#332178
On 11/9/15, 8:58 PM, in article
pan.2015.11.10.03.56.53@localhost.localdomain, "Fabian Russell"
<root@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 18:44:51 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>> 
>> The value of a tool is what it does. Linux does MANY things great... but it
>> does not compete well on the desktop.
> 
> Sayeth whom?

Well, the evidence certainly points that way! Usage levels are one piece of
evidence (tied to it being no-cost and being marketed by Dell and HP and
Walmart and others), but perhaps a bigger one is how there are so few
examples of tasks it actually does real well with! Notice how I all but beg
for people to show examples and they fail time and time again.

> I've been using Linux on MY desktop since 1998 for a variety of purposes,
> including but not limited to document production, image/video/sound
> processing, CD/DVD/Blu-ray burning, scientific computing, programming, HTML
> editing, etc.

Would be great for you to show how you think it helps you do these things
better than the competition. Show a great workflow, perhaps.

> My MS Windows boxen are mere paperweights (and to fool the cops).
> 
> Whoever DOESN'T use Linux is a brain-dead fool.

Even if there are no examples of what it does better? Remember, I have shown
you some examples of what the competition does better - and can easily show
more.


-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#332230

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-10 08:18 -0500
Message-ID<n1sqn9$9vi$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#332178
On 2015-11-09 10:58 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 18:44:51 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>>
>> The value of a tool is what it does. Linux does MANY things great... but it
>> does not compete well on the desktop.
>>
> 
> Sayeth whom?
> 
> I've been using Linux on MY desktop since 1998 for a variety of purposes,
> including but not limited to document production, image/video/sound processing,
> CD/DVD/Blu-ray burning, scientific computing, programming, HTML editing, etc.
> 
> My MS Windows boxen are mere paperweights (and to fool the cops).

Why would you need to fool cops?

> Whoever DOESN'T use Linux is a brain-dead fool.

So 90% of the world are brain-dead fools.

-- 
Slimer

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#332274

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-10 15:15 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.10.15.15.42@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#332230
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 08:18:42 -0500, Slimer wrote:

>> 
>> My MS Windows boxen are mere paperweights (and to fool the cops).
> 
> Why would you need to fool cops?
> 

When the cops see my MS Windows machine, which is displayed prominently
to the world, they think that it is all that possibly can be
because they think that Microsoft is all that can possibly be.
Consequently, they won't find the terrorist documents on my Linux
machine.


> 
> So 90% of the world are brain-dead fools.
>

You, sir, are finally learning.

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#332287

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-10 10:49 -0500
Message-ID<n1t3h9$eqd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#332274
On 2015-11-10 10:15 AM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 08:18:42 -0500, Slimer wrote:
> 
>>>
>>> My MS Windows boxen are mere paperweights (and to fool the cops).
>>
>> Why would you need to fool cops?
>>
> 
> When the cops see my MS Windows machine, which is displayed prominently
> to the world, they think that it is all that possibly can be
> because they think that Microsoft is all that can possibly be.
> Consequently, they won't find the terrorist documents on my Linux
> machine.

It's not that simple.

>> So 90% of the world are brain-dead fools.
> 
> You, sir, are finally learning.

It's actually 98.5%. My mistake.

-- 
Slimer

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#332289

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-10 07:54 -0800
Message-ID<e7da52ff-2c9e-4d67-a541-f2a9e895921d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#332287
On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 8:49:08 AM UTC-7, Slimer wrote:
> On 2015-11-10 10:15 AM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 08:18:42 -0500, Slimer wrote:
> > 
> >>>
> >>> My MS Windows boxen are mere paperweights (and to fool the cops).
> >>
> >> Why would you need to fool cops?
> >>
> > 
> > When the cops see my MS Windows machine, which is displayed prominently
> > to the world, they think that it is all that possibly can be
> > because they think that Microsoft is all that can possibly be.
> > Consequently, they won't find the terrorist documents on my Linux
> > machine.
> 
> It's not that simple.
> 
> >> So 90% of the world are brain-dead fools.
> > 
> > You, sir, are finally learning.
> 
> It's actually 98.5%. My mistake.

You gotta him this guy credit, he's winding you guys up fairly well ;)

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#332295

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-10 11:21 -0500
Message-ID<n1t5dh$mhd$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#332289
On 2015-11-10 10:54 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 8:49:08 AM UTC-7, Slimer wrote:
>> On 2015-11-10 10:15 AM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 08:18:42 -0500, Slimer wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My MS Windows boxen are mere paperweights (and to fool the cops).
>>>>
>>>> Why would you need to fool cops?
>>>>
>>>
>>> When the cops see my MS Windows machine, which is displayed prominently
>>> to the world, they think that it is all that possibly can be
>>> because they think that Microsoft is all that can possibly be.
>>> Consequently, they won't find the terrorist documents on my Linux
>>> machine.
>>
>> It's not that simple.
>>
>>>> So 90% of the world are brain-dead fools.
>>>
>>> You, sir, are finally learning.
>>
>> It's actually 98.5%. My mistake.
> 
> You gotta him this guy credit, he's winding you guys up fairly well ;)

I'm not sure if he's really winding anyone up. He can just as easily be
filtered but he has resisted turning everything into a slugfest like the
other advocates always do and as such I don't mind talking to him.


-- 
Slimer

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#332311

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-10 08:46 -0800
Message-ID<736e7d55-e75e-4623-91b3-35d6cb21ad5a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#332295
On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 9:21:16 AM UTC-7, Slimer wrote:
> On 2015-11-10 10:54 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 8:49:08 AM UTC-7, Slimer wrote:
> >> On 2015-11-10 10:15 AM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 08:18:42 -0500, Slimer wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My MS Windows boxen are mere paperweights (and to fool the cops).
> >>>>
> >>>> Why would you need to fool cops?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> When the cops see my MS Windows machine, which is displayed prominently
> >>> to the world, they think that it is all that possibly can be
> >>> because they think that Microsoft is all that can possibly be.
> >>> Consequently, they won't find the terrorist documents on my Linux
> >>> machine.
> >>
> >> It's not that simple.
> >>
> >>>> So 90% of the world are brain-dead fools.
> >>>
> >>> You, sir, are finally learning.
> >>
> >> It's actually 98.5%. My mistake.
> > 
> > You gotta him this guy credit, he's winding you guys up fairly well ;)
> 
> I'm not sure if he's really winding anyone up. He can just as easily be
> filtered but he has resisted turning everything into a slugfest like the
> other advocates always do and as such I don't mind talking to him.

You can't wind people up if you're just bashing.  Trust me, he's knows how to play ;)

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#332361

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-11-10 12:27 -0700
Message-ID<IL6dnVRMe4yL2N_LnZ2dnUU7-U2dnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#332311
On 11/10/15 09:46, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 9:21:16 AM UTC-7, Slimer wrote:
>> On 2015-11-10 10:54 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015 at 8:49:08 AM UTC-7, Slimer wrote:
>>>> On 2015-11-10 10:15 AM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 08:18:42 -0500, Slimer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My MS Windows boxen are mere paperweights (and to fool the cops).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would you need to fool cops?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When the cops see my MS Windows machine, which is displayed prominently
>>>>> to the world, they think that it is all that possibly can be
>>>>> because they think that Microsoft is all that can possibly be.
>>>>> Consequently, they won't find the terrorist documents on my Linux
>>>>> machine.
>>>>
>>>> It's not that simple.
>>>>
>>>>>> So 90% of the world are brain-dead fools.
>>>>>
>>>>> You, sir, are finally learning.
>>>>
>>>> It's actually 98.5%. My mistake.
>>>
>>> You gotta him this guy credit, he's winding you guys up fairly well ;)
>>
>> I'm not sure if he's really winding anyone up. He can just as easily be
>> filtered but he has resisted turning everything into a slugfest like the
>> other advocates always do and as such I don't mind talking to him.
>
> You can't wind people up if you're just bashing.  Trust me, he's knows how to play ;)

A lot of sci.physics people see him as a fool as well.  Fabian is 
nothing more than a troll that thinks linux is the panacea of computing.


-- 
My problem is that I don't have enough middle fingers.

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#332360

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-11-10 12:25 -0700
Message-ID<IL6dnVVMe4wi2d_LnZ2dnUU7-U2dnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#332178
On 11/09/15 20:58, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 18:44:51 -0700, Snit wrote:
>
>>
>> The value of a tool is what it does. Linux does MANY things great... but it
>> does not compete well on the desktop.
>>
>
> Sayeth whom?

Sayeth Linus Torvalds.

>
> I've been using Linux on MY desktop since 1998 for a variety of purposes,
> including but not limited to document production, image/video/sound processing,
> CD/DVD/Blu-ray burning, scientific computing, programming, HTML editing, etc.
>
> My MS Windows boxen are mere paperweights (and to fool the cops).
>
> Whoever DOESN'T use Linux is a brain-dead fool.
>

Guffaw!!!



-- 
My problem is that I don't have enough middle fingers.

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#332372

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-10 12:45 -0700
Message-ID<D267974E.63771%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#332360
On 11/10/15, 12:25 PM, in article
IL6dnVVMe4wi2d_LnZ2dnUU7-U2dnZ2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <cumulus@mist.com>
wrote:

> On 11/09/15 20:58, Fabian Russell wrote:
>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2015 18:44:51 -0700, Snit wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> The value of a tool is what it does. Linux does MANY things great... but it
>>> does not compete well on the desktop.
>>> 
>> 
>> Sayeth whom?
> 
> Sayeth Linus Torvalds.

Here are a list of quotes from him many cult-like followers of Stallman tend
to disagree with. I suspect Fabian Russell would not be happy with most.

  Linus Torvalds: 
    ----- 
    Any program is only as good as it is useful.
    ----- 
    I never felt that the naming issue was all that important,
    but I was obviously wrong, judging by how many people felt. I
    tell people to call it just plain Linux and nothing more.
    ----- 
    I'm generally a very pragmatic person: that which works,
    works. 
    ----- 
    In many cases, the user interface to a program is the most
    important part for a commercial company: whether the programs
    works correctly or not seems to be secondary.
    ----- 
    Microsoft isn't evil
    ----- 
    An infinite number of monkeys typing into GNU emacs would
    never make a good program.
    ----- 
    Anybody who tells me I can't use a program because it's not
    open source, go suck on rms. I'm not interested. 99% of that
    I run tends to be open source, but that's my choice, dammit.
    ----- 
    ... even if the Hurd didn't depend on Linux code (and as far
    as I know, it does, but since I think they have their design
    heads firmly up their *sses anyway with that whole
    microkernel thing, I've never felt it was worth my time even
    looking at their code), I don't believe a religiously
    motivated development community can ever generate as good
    code except by pure chance.
    ----- 
    Your problem has nothing to do with git, and everything to do
    with emacs. And then you have the gall to talk about "Unix
    design" and not gumming programs together, when you yourself
    use the most gummed-up piece of absolute sh*t there is!
    ----- 
    I may make jokes about Microsoft at times, but at the same
    time, I think the Microsoft hatred is a disease.
    ----- 
    There are "extremists" in the free software world, but that's
    one major reason why I don't call what I do "free software"
    any more. I don't want to be associated with the people for
    whom it's about exclusion and hatred.
    ----- 
    Let's put it this way: if you need to ask a lawyer whether
    what you do is "right" or not, you are morally corrupt. Let's
    not go there. We don't base our morality on law.
    -----  

And comments from other big names in the open source world:

  Mark Shuttleworth:
    ----- 
    I think we don't yet deliver a good enough user experience. I
    think we deliver a user experience for people that have a
    reason to want to be on the Linux platform, either because of
    price or because of freedom. If that was your primary reason,
    Linux is the right answer.
    But if you are somebody who is not too concerned about price,
    who is not too concerned about freedom, I don't think we can
    say the Linux desktop offers the very best experience. And
    that's something we have to change, that's something I'm
    committed to work on, focusing increasing amounts of
    resources of Canonical on figuring out on how we actually
    move the desktop experience forward to compete with Mac OS X.
    ... 
    Second thing is, we just can't do this only on GNOME or just
    on KDE, we need to figure out on how to move the whole Linux
    desktop platform forward. I suspect if we hire a bunch of
    upstream developers they will be across both GNOME and KDE.
    I think the Apple guys have a very good point when they say
    we should let designers lead the definition of the user
    experience. 
    ----- 
    But I see the lack of consistency as both a weakness (GNOME,
    OpenOffice and Firefox all have different UI toolkits, and
    it¹s very difficult to make them seamless) and as a strength
    - people are free to innovate, and the results are
    world-leading. 
    -----     

  Jim Zemlin: 
    ----- 
    Yeah, their stuff's pretty good. [points at a MacBook Air]
    That's a pretty sweet laptop there. That's the difference. I
    get asked a lot, "Why does Apple get a bye?" from the open
    source guys. When you're downstairs I'm sure you'll see a lot
    more Macs. The reason why they get a bit more of a bye is
    because the stuff is really innovative. It's not the stuff
    where you say "Not only is it crap but..."
    ----- 
    I'll tell you who's great with the desktop market, it's those
    guys, Apple, with I think more than 20 per cent share. But if
    you look at things like the Kindle Fire, Android, the
    ChromeBook, at all the alternative means of accessing what's
    important and what you probably spend 90 per cent of your
    time doing, accessing the internet through a web browser,
    then I think there's plenty of room for a Linux desktop
    there. 
    ----- 
    | What's one application would you like to see for Linux
    | that doesn't exist currently?
    iTunes. And Microsoft Office.
    ----- 
    Open source is a development methodology, and choice is not
    guaranteed by a development methodology."
    ----- 
    One of the big things that's difficult is consistency, and
    that's Window's biggest strength.
    ----- 
    This certification lab will increase the number of Linux
    applications and ensure that Linux does not fragment.
    ----- 
    As the standards are provided and then adopted, the Linux
    desktop will snowball. Microsoft can compete with a Sun, a
    Red Hat or a Novell, but they won't be able to compete with
    an ecosystem of Linux desktops...
    ----- 
    What our standards will do is enable desktop application
    vendors to easily target the Linux ecosystem, not just a
    single vendor, to make sure they run across all the different
    distributions...
    ----- 
    [The new LSB desktop group will be dealing with more than
    just KDE and GNOME issues though. It will be dealing with]
    all issues dealing with interoperability, ... everyone at the
    table, and motivated to make the Linux desktop a success,
    everyone will be seeking a consensus. This may not [mean]
    making developers choose between KDE and GNOME, but instead
    finding a way to make it easier for ISVs to create
    applications that can easily work with both.
    ----- 

>> I've been using Linux on MY desktop since 1998 for a variety of purposes,
>> including but not limited to document production, image/video/sound
>> processing,
>> CD/DVD/Blu-ray burning, scientific computing, programming, HTML editing, etc.
>> 
>> My MS Windows boxen are mere paperweights (and to fool the cops).
>> 
>> Whoever DOESN'T use Linux is a brain-dead fool.
>> 
> 
> Guffaw!!!
> 
> 



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#332424

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-10 22:30 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.10.22.30.09@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#332372
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:45:02 -0700, Snit wrote:

> 
> And comments from other big names in the open source world:
> 
>   Mark Shuttleworth:
>

Since when is this cheap gossip monger considered a "big name?"

This loser couldn't tell a logic gate from a byte from a rat hole
in the ground.

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#332427

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2015-11-10 17:37 -0500
Message-ID<n1trfq$lv5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#332424
"Fabian Russell" <root@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message 
news:pan.2015.11.10.22.30.09@localhost.localdomain...
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:45:02 -0700, Snit wrote:
>
>>
>> And comments from other big names in the open source world:
>>
>>   Mark Shuttleworth:
>>
>
> Since when is this cheap gossip monger considered a "big name?"
>
> This loser couldn't tell a logic gate from a byte from a rat hole
> in the ground.
>

So in other words he is orders of magnitude smarter than you'll ever be.

-- 
"Internally, Microsoft still uses the former 8.3 filename notation because 
nothing else will work.  The more "liberal" file naming convention is just a 
cosmetic cover."

Idiotic nonsense from Fabian Russell
Nov 9, 2015 - <pan.2015.11.09.18.05.31@localhost.localdomain>


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#332474

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-10 18:04 -0700
Message-ID<D267E217.63838%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#332424
On 11/10/15, 3:30 PM, in article
pan.2015.11.10.22.30.09@localhost.localdomain, "Fabian Russell"
<root@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:45:02 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>> 
>> And comments from other big names in the open source world:
>> 
>>   Mark Shuttleworth:
>> 
> 
> Since when is this cheap gossip monger considered a "big name?"
> 
> This loser couldn't tell a logic gate from a byte from a rat hole
> in the ground.
> 
OK, so you have no idea who Mark Shuttleworth is or why he is a big name in
the open source community. Wow.


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#332485

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-11 01:30 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.11.01.28.57@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#332474
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 18:04:07 -0700, Snit wrote:

>> 
> OK, so you have no idea who Mark Shuttleworth is or why he is a big name in
> the open source community. Wow.
>

Oops.  My first error in this thread.

I was thinking of Zuckerberg.  But I admit I do not know Shuttleworth.

I am not a fan of personalities.

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#332490

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-10 18:59 -0700
Message-ID<D267EEF7.6385E%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#332485
On 11/10/15, 6:30 PM, in article
pan.2015.11.11.01.28.57@localhost.localdomain, "Fabian Russell"
<root@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 18:04:07 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>>> 
>> OK, so you have no idea who Mark Shuttleworth is or why he is a big name in
>> the open source community. Wow.
>> 
> 
> Oops.  My first error in this thread.
> 
> I was thinking of Zuckerberg.  But I admit I do not know Shuttleworth.
> 
> I am not a fan of personalities.
> 
> 
Shuttleworth is the man behind Ubuntu. Curious of your views on his quotes
and the others I provided:

  Linus Torvalds: 
    ----- 
    Any program is only as good as it is useful.
    ----- 
    I never felt that the naming issue was all that important,
    but I was obviously wrong, judging by how many people felt. I
    tell people to call it just plain Linux and nothing more.
    ----- 
    I'm generally a very pragmatic person: that which works,
    works. 
    ----- 
    In many cases, the user interface to a program is the most
    important part for a commercial company: whether the programs
    works correctly or not seems to be secondary.
    ----- 
    Microsoft isn't evil
    ----- 
    An infinite number of monkeys typing into GNU emacs would
    never make a good program.
    ----- 
    Anybody who tells me I can't use a program because it's not
    open source, go suck on rms. I'm not interested. 99% of that
    I run tends to be open source, but that's my choice, dammit.
    ----- 
    ... even if the Hurd didn't depend on Linux code (and as far
    as I know, it does, but since I think they have their design
    heads firmly up their *sses anyway with that whole
    microkernel thing, I've never felt it was worth my time even
    looking at their code), I don't believe a religiously
    motivated development community can ever generate as good
    code except by pure chance.
    ----- 
    Your problem has nothing to do with git, and everything to do
    with emacs. And then you have the gall to talk about "Unix
    design" and not gumming programs together, when you yourself
    use the most gummed-up piece of absolute sh*t there is!
    ----- 
    I may make jokes about Microsoft at times, but at the same
    time, I think the Microsoft hatred is a disease.
    ----- 
    There are "extremists" in the free software world, but that's
    one major reason why I don't call what I do "free software"
    any more. I don't want to be associated with the people for
    whom it's about exclusion and hatred.
    ----- 
    Let's put it this way: if you need to ask a lawyer whether
    what you do is "right" or not, you are morally corrupt. Let's
    not go there. We don't base our morality on law.
    -----  

  Mark Shuttleworth:
    ----- 
    I think we don't yet deliver a good enough user experience. I
    think we deliver a user experience for people that have a
    reason to want to be on the Linux platform, either because of
    price or because of freedom. If that was your primary reason,
    Linux is the right answer.
    But if you are somebody who is not too concerned about price,
    who is not too concerned about freedom, I don't think we can
    say the Linux desktop offers the very best experience. And
    that's something we have to change, that's something I'm
    committed to work on, focusing increasing amounts of
    resources of Canonical on figuring out on how we actually
    move the desktop experience forward to compete with Mac OS X.
    ... 
    Second thing is, we just can't do this only on GNOME or just
    on KDE, we need to figure out on how to move the whole Linux
    desktop platform forward. I suspect if we hire a bunch of
    upstream developers they will be across both GNOME and KDE.
    I think the Apple guys have a very good point when they say
    we should let designers lead the definition of the user
    experience. 
    ----- 
    But I see the lack of consistency as both a weakness (GNOME,
    OpenOffice and Firefox all have different UI toolkits, and
    it¹s very difficult to make them seamless) and as a strength
    - people are free to innovate, and the results are
    world-leading. 
    -----     

  Jim Zemlin: 
    ----- 
    Yeah, their stuff's pretty good. [points at a MacBook Air]
    That's a pretty sweet laptop there. That's the difference. I
    get asked a lot, "Why does Apple get a bye?" from the open
    source guys. When you're downstairs I'm sure you'll see a lot
    more Macs. The reason why they get a bit more of a bye is
    because the stuff is really innovative. It's not the stuff
    where you say "Not only is it crap but..."
    ----- 
    I'll tell you who's great with the desktop market, it's those
    guys, Apple, with I think more than 20 per cent share. But if
    you look at things like the Kindle Fire, Android, the
    ChromeBook, at all the alternative means of accessing what's
    important and what you probably spend 90 per cent of your
    time doing, accessing the internet through a web browser,
    then I think there's plenty of room for a Linux desktop
    there. 
    ----- 
    | What's one application would you like to see for Linux
    | that doesn't exist currently?
    iTunes. And Microsoft Office.
    ----- 
    Open source is a development methodology, and choice is not
    guaranteed by a development methodology."
    ----- 
    One of the big things that's difficult is consistency, and
    that's Window's biggest strength.
    ----- 
    This certification lab will increase the number of Linux
    applications and ensure that Linux does not fragment.
    ----- 
    As the standards are provided and then adopted, the Linux
    desktop will snowball. Microsoft can compete with a Sun, a
    Red Hat or a Novell, but they won't be able to compete with
    an ecosystem of Linux desktops...
    ----- 
    What our standards will do is enable desktop application
    vendors to easily target the Linux ecosystem, not just a
    single vendor, to make sure they run across all the different
    distributions...
    ----- 
    [The new LSB desktop group will be dealing with more than
    just KDE and GNOME issues though. It will be dealing with]
    all issues dealing with interoperability, ... everyone at the
    table, and motivated to make the Linux desktop a success,
    everyone will be seeking a consensus. This may not [mean]
    making developers choose between KDE and GNOME, but instead
    finding a way to make it easier for ISVs to create
    applications that can easily work with both.
    ----- 


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* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#332500

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-11 03:15 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.11.03.16.12@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#332490
On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 18:59:03 -0700, Snit wrote:

> Curious of your views on his quotes
> and the others I provided:
> 

Sorry, I am not concerned with out-of-context quips by personages that
have largely been created by media.

But Linus is certainly a man after my own heart.  I recall that recently
he railed against the notion of a "virtual machine" stating that real
men prefer real hardware.

Oh yes!  I am truly sickened by these aficionados of all things
virtual, from machines to containers.  Although I suppose that virtual
machines have their uses they simply grate at my soul.  I would not even
consider doing anything virtual.

I have cut my teeth on assembly language.  Once that fundamental stuff
gets into your blood it never gets out.

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#332502

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-11-11 07:22 +0000
Message-ID<gh48.apfa3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#332500
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 18:59:03 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>> Curious of your views on his quotes
>> and the others I provided:
>> 
> 
> Sorry, I am not concerned with out-of-context quips by personages that
> have largely been created by media.
> 
> But Linus is certainly a man after my own heart.  I recall that recently
> he railed against the notion of a "virtual machine" stating that real
> men prefer real hardware.
> 
> Oh yes!  I am truly sickened by these aficionados of all things
> virtual, from machines to containers.  Although I suppose that virtual
> machines have their uses they simply grate at my soul.  I would not even
> consider doing anything virtual.
> 
> I have cut my teeth on assembly language.  Once that fundamental stuff
> gets into your blood it never gets out.
> 

Nothing stopping you from using assembler in a VM.

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