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  Another shooting in France, another Muslim SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-12-11 20:55 -0500
    Re: Another shooting in France, another Muslim Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-11 19:45 -0700
    Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-12 07:08 -0600
      Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-12 13:48 +0000
      Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 03:16 +0000
        Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-12-12 19:36 -0800
        Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-12 20:59 -0700
        Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-13 07:12 -0600
          Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-12-13 05:41 -0800
          Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-13 15:52 +0000
            Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-13 11:17 -0600
              Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-13 17:36 +0000
                Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-12-13 12:53 -0500
                  Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim % <%> - 2018-12-13 11:02 -0700
                  Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-13 14:04 -0600
                    Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-13 20:13 +0000
                      Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-14 07:12 -0600
                      Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2018-12-14 13:08 -0500
                        Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-14 18:37 +0000
                          Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2018-12-14 14:04 -0500
                            Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-14 19:17 +0000
                              Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-14 13:47 -0600
                              Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2018-12-14 15:41 -0500
                                Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-17 15:06 +0000
                                  Re: Another shooting in France, another MUSLIM SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-12-17 10:55 -0500
                                    Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-17 10:00 -0600
                                      Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-17 11:28 -0700
                                      Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-18 03:58 +0000
                                        Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-17 21:02 -0700
                                  Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2018-12-17 11:07 -0500
                                    Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-17 18:11 +0000
                    Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-13 15:03 -0800
                      Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2018-12-13 18:16 -0500
                      Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-12-13 17:56 -0800
                        Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-14 07:39 -0800
                          Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-12-14 08:23 -0800
                            Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-14 09:38 -0800
                              Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-12-14 10:02 -0800
                                Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-14 14:31 -0800
                                  Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-14 16:07 -0700
                                Marxism is a sadistic cult. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-12-17 18:36 -0800
                              Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-14 13:28 -0700
                          Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-14 13:17 -0700
                        Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-14 16:10 -0700
                      Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-14 07:09 -0600
                        Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-14 16:12 -0700
                      Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-14 13:16 -0700
                Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-13 12:07 -0600
                  Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-12-13 19:41 +0000
                    Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-12-13 14:01 -0600

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#481230 — Another shooting in France, another Muslim

But God forbid holier-than-thou Snit tell me I'm a racist for pointing 
out facts!

-- 
SilverSlimer
Free software advocate
Minds: @silverslimer

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On 12/11/18 6:55 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> But God forbid holier-than-thou Snit tell me I'm a racist for pointing 
> out facts!
> 

I have noted your racism some of the times when you advertise it.

Oh, and there is no race called Muslim.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#481240 — Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim

SilverSlimer wrote:

>But God forbid holier-than-thou Snit tell me I'm a racist for pointing 
>out facts!

I notice that these right-wingers only report the news when one of
their enemies breaks the law.  

Some Mexican guy in Iowa kills a woman?  It's all over the news, with
right-wingers screaming "build the wall!"  

Some white guy in Colorado massacres his family?  Silence.

-- 
"there is less need (for Linux users to pirate) if and only if there
are more & better software tools for Linux OS than for alternate OSs"
-  lying asshole "-hh", lying shamelessly 

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#481244 — Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> SilverSlimer wrote:
> 
>> But God forbid holier-than-thou Snit tell me I'm a racist for pointing 
>> out facts!
> 
> I notice that these right-wingers only report the news when one of
> their enemies breaks the law.  
> 
> Some Mexican guy in Iowa kills a woman?  It's all over the news, with
> right-wingers screaming "build the wall!"  
> 
> Some white guy in Colorado massacres his family?  Silence.
> 

Slimer wants special entitlements for Christians and a lack of equal rights
for Muslims. He hand picks stories to focus on. 

Notice how he is not blaming Christians in general for the riots in Paris. 

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#481283 — Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim

On 2018-12-12, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> SilverSlimer wrote:
>
>>But God forbid holier-than-thou Snit tell me I'm a racist for pointing 
>>out facts!
>
> I notice that these right-wingers only report the news when one of
> their enemies breaks the law.  
>
> Some Mexican guy in Iowa kills a woman?  It's all over the news, with
> right-wingers screaming "build the wall!"  
>
> Some white guy in Colorado massacres his family?  Silence.

Here's what you fail to understand ... there are a WHOLE lot more 
non-illegal, American natives in America than illegal aliens. It's the 
percentage that counts. If 2% of the population commits 8% of the murders 
than you have a serious problem with that 2%, even though they're not 
involved in 92% of the murders. (Percentages are hypothetical in this case, 
here to illustrate my point).

Read recently that 63% of illegal aliens are recieving some form of welfare 
– and the percentage goes up the longer they stay in the country, not the 
other way around. (So much for the "productive undocumented worker" 
screeds.)

-- 
The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.

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#481284 — Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim

RonB wrote:
> Here's what you fail to understand ... there are a WHOLE lot more 
> non-illegal, American natives in America than illegal aliens. It's the 
> percentage that counts. If 2% of the population commits 8% of the murders 
> than you have a serious problem with that 2%, even though they're not 
> involved in 92% of the murders. (Percentages are hypothetical in this case, 
> here to illustrate my point). 

And likewise, when said 2% is only responsible for 1%, then they are clearly a non-problem.

Case in point:
<https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/30/upshot/crime-immigration-myth.html>

> Read recently that 63% of illegal aliens are recieving some form of welfare 
> – and the percentage goes up the longer they stay in the country, not the 
> other way around. (So much for the "productive undocumented worker" 
> screeds.) 

An interesting claim and one I’ve never seen documented from a credible source.  
So then, how about a citation from a reliable source that supports your claim?

For example, this paper identifies this sort of claim as being at best, half true:

<https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2018/jan/29/steve-cortes/are-55-percent-immigrants-california-welfare-s-exa/>

It is rated half true because the stat doesn’t differentiate illegal from legal, nor does 
it differentiate households (since a child who’s a native-born US citizen could be the 
household member eligible for benefits) with an immigrant from individuals who are 
immigrants (and then, the smaller fraction of which who are illegal).  Similarly, there are 
benefits such as public schooling which isn’t “welfare” - the terms aren’t synonymous.

Frankly, RonB, I think you’re being deceived.


-hh

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#481285 — Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim

On 12/12/18 8:16 PM, RonB wrote:
> On 2018-12-12, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> SilverSlimer wrote:
>>
>>> But God forbid holier-than-thou Snit tell me I'm a racist for pointing
>>> out facts!
>>
>> I notice that these right-wingers only report the news when one of
>> their enemies breaks the law.
>>
>> Some Mexican guy in Iowa kills a woman?  It's all over the news, with
>> right-wingers screaming "build the wall!"
>>
>> Some white guy in Colorado massacres his family?  Silence.
> 
> Here's what you fail to understand ... there are a WHOLE lot more
> non-illegal, American natives in America than illegal aliens. It's the
> percentage that counts. If 2% of the population commits 8% of the murders
> than you have a serious problem with that 2%, even though they're not
> involved in 92% of the murders. (Percentages are hypothetical in this case,
> here to illustrate my point).
> 
> Read recently that 63% of illegal aliens are recieving some form of welfare

Cite? They are generally not eligible.

> – and the percentage goes up the longer they stay in the country, not the
> other way around. (So much for the "productive undocumented worker"
> screeds.)




-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#481290 — Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim

RonB wrote:

> chrisv wrote:
>>
>> I notice that these right-wingers only report the news when one of
>> their enemies breaks the law.  
>>
>> Some Mexican guy in Iowa kills a woman?  It's all over the news, with
>> right-wingers screaming "build the wall!"  
>>
>> Some white guy in Colorado massacres his family?  Silence.
>
>Here's what you fail to understand ... there are a WHOLE lot more 
>non-illegal, American natives in America than illegal aliens.

Do you really think that fail to understand that?

>It's the 
>percentage that counts. If 2% of the population commits 8% of the murders 
>than you have a serious problem with that 2%, even though they're not 
>involved in 92% of the murders. (Percentages are hypothetical in this case, 
>here to illustrate my point).

OK, prove that they are worse than are the "citizens".  There are
people getting gunned-down all the time, and it doesn't even make the
local news, it's so common.

But a white woman gets killed, and OMG, we must put a *stop* to this!

>Read recently that 63% of illegal aliens are recieving some form of welfare 

This has already been discussed, in here, multiple times.  People
making minimum wage will usually need "some sort of welfare".  

Also, from what I read, about half the general population receives
"some sort of welfare".  It's not surprising that slightly higher
percentage of recent immigrants will need assistance.

>and the percentage goes up the longer they stay in the country, not the 
>other way around.

That's probably to be expected, as they gain rights, or get more bold,
or have children, or whatever.  Such statements as yours have *zero*
meaning.  The percentage could go up by 1% after a year, then down,
much more, a year later, and the right-wing propaganda could still be
"the truth".

How about long-term trends?  How about the second generation?

Seems to me, that every ethnic group that has come here has
contributed to our society.  The groups that do seem to lag were
either brought here against their will, or pushed off their lands by
the white man.

> (So much for the "productive undocumented worker" screeds.)

Pfffttt.  Only the true dullards in the audience will be fooled, by
such propaganda.

"Productive undocumented workers", and the benefits that they bring us
all, are a *fact*.

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#481292 — Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim

On Thursday, December 13, 2018 at 8:12:42 AM UTC-5, chrisv wrote:
> RonB wrote:
> 
> > chrisv wrote:
> >>
> >> I notice that these right-wingers only report the news when one of
> >> their enemies breaks the law.  
> >>
> >> Some Mexican guy in Iowa kills a woman?  It's all over the news, with
> >> right-wingers screaming "build the wall!"  
> >>
> >> Some white guy in Colorado massacres his family?  Silence.
> >
> >Here's what you fail to understand ... there are a WHOLE lot more 
> >non-illegal, American natives in America than illegal aliens.
> 
> Do you really think that fail to understand that?
> 
> >It's the 
> >percentage that counts. If 2% of the population commits 8% of the murders 
> >than you have a serious problem with that 2%, even though they're not 
> >involved in 92% of the murders. (Percentages are hypothetical in this case, 
> >here to illustrate my point).
> 
> OK, prove that they are worse than are the "citizens".  There are
> people getting gunned-down all the time, and it doesn't even make the
> local news, it's so common.

You'll die of old age before they're able to substantiate that claim.

In any event, the individual in Strasbourg FRA was a known criminal.
He had 27 convictions in his criminal record, had spent time in
jail and was actively being looked for by police to be arrested
when he "lashed out" on this attack of the public.

<https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/12/12/strasbourg-suspect-from-young-criminal-to-fugitive-attacker/23616739/>


-hh

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#481306 — Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> RonB wrote:
> 
> 
>>It's the 
>>percentage that counts. If 2% of the population commits 8% of the murders 
>>than you have a serious problem with that 2%, even though they're not 
>>involved in 92% of the murders. (Percentages are hypothetical in this case, 
>>here to illustrate my point).
> 
> OK, prove that they are worse than are the "citizens".  There are
> people getting gunned-down all the time, and it doesn't even make the
> local news, it's so common.
> 


Nobody cares when gangbangers kill each other.  But the only place you
will hear about it at all is on conservative media, where they object to
liberals using those numbers only to boost generic gun incident statistics
while ignoring the fact that those particular numbers are high primarily
in areas where liberals are in charge and gun laws are strictest.


> But a white woman gets killed, and OMG, we must put a *stop* to this!
> 


That the victim is a "white woman" has nothing to do with it.  Rather, it
is the fact that an *illegal alien*, who has no right to be here at all,
is responsible.  But since you, like all democrats -- and especially,
it seems, *white* democrats -- hate white people, I'm not surprised that
you would try to spin it that way.

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#481308 — Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim

owl wrote:

>That the victim is a "white woman" has nothing to do with it.  

Bullshit.  It's right up the propagandist's "alley".

>Rather, it s the fact that an *illegal alien*, who has no right to be here at all,
>is responsible. 

It's responsible for right-wingers leaping at their opportunity to
attack, yes.

We have many bigger problems than "illegal aliens doing crimes".

> (snip lies)

-- 
"That Obama sure was a nigger of the people."  -  "Slimer"

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#481310 — Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> [racist anti-white hate speech snipped]

Let's hear some more of those fine Democrat talking points.

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#481317 — Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim

On 2018-12-13 12:36 p.m., owl wrote:
> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> [racist anti-white hate speech snipped]
> 
> Let's hear some more of those fine Democrat talking points.

The moment anyone is actually willing to read chrisv's political opinion 
is the moment Western Civilization officially dies.


-- 
SilverSlimer
Free software advocate
Minds: @silverslimer

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#481318 — Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim

On 2018-12-13 10:53 a.m., SilverSlimer wrote:
> On 2018-12-13 12:36 p.m., owl wrote:
>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> [racist anti-white hate speech snipped]
>>
>> Let's hear some more of those fine Democrat talking points.
> 
> The moment anyone is actually willing to read chrisv's political opinion 
> is the moment Western Civilization officially dies.
> 
> 
if western civilization died every time some one said

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#481324 — Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim

SilverSlimer wrote:

>The moment anyone is actually willing to read chrisv's political opinion 
>is the moment Western Civilization officially dies.

That's really funny, coming from you, Slimer.

Tell us, again, how the criminal justice system in the US has a racial
bias, and that it favors blacks.

I couldn't make this stuff up, folks!

If you'll believe Slimer's right-wing propaganda, you'll believe
*anything*.

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#481325 — Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
> I couldn't make this stuff up, folks!
> 

I wonder how many times this dumbass has used that phrase.  If only
somebody had a cola database...

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#481348 — Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim

owl wrote:

> (snipped, unread)

-- 
"First step: send all of the black people in all Western countries
back  there. They hate it in America and Canada and keep reminding us
about it."  -  Slimer

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#481364 — Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim

On 12/13/2018 3:13 PM, owl wrote:
> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> I couldn't make this stuff up, folks!
>>
> 
> I wonder how many times this dumbass has used that phrase.  If only
> somebody had a cola database...


I looked at the sky and saw the DFS-signal, and sprang into action.


SELECT
  Count(P.POSTID) as Utterances
FROM
  POST P, POSTER P2A, MESSAGEID M, SUBJECT S, POSTBODY B
WHERE
  P.POSTERID = P2A.POSTERID  AND
  P.MSGID = M.MSGID  AND
  P.SUBJECTID = S.SUBJECTID  AND
  P.POSTID = B.POSTID  AND
  P.GROUPID = 1 AND
  P2A.POSTERNAMEID = 2 AND
  (UTCDATE BETWEEN '2003-07-21' AND '2018-12-13') AND
  (B.BODYNEW LIKE "* couldn't make this stuff *");


Utterances
50

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#481367 — Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 12/13/2018 3:13 PM, owl wrote:
>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> I couldn't make this stuff up, folks!
>>>
>> 
>> I wonder how many times this dumbass has used that phrase.  If only
>> somebody had a cola database...
> 
> 
> I looked at the sky and saw the DFS-signal, and sprang into action.
> 
> 
> SELECT
>  Count(P.POSTID) as Utterances
> FROM
>  POST P, POSTER P2A, MESSAGEID M, SUBJECT S, POSTBODY B
> WHERE
>  P.POSTERID = P2A.POSTERID  AND
>  P.MSGID = M.MSGID  AND
>  P.SUBJECTID = S.SUBJECTID  AND
>  P.POSTID = B.POSTID  AND
>  P.GROUPID = 1 AND
>  P2A.POSTERNAMEID = 2 AND
>  (UTCDATE BETWEEN '2003-07-21' AND '2018-12-13') AND
>  (B.BODYNEW LIKE "* couldn't make this stuff *");
> 
> 
> Utterances
> 50
> 

That seems off by an order of magnitude.

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#481369 — Re: Another shooting in France, another non-Muslim

On 12/14/2018 1:37 PM, owl wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 12/13/2018 3:13 PM, owl wrote:
>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I couldn't make this stuff up, folks!
>>>>
>>>
>>> I wonder how many times this dumbass has used that phrase.  If only
>>> somebody had a cola database...
>>
>>
>> I looked at the sky and saw the DFS-signal, and sprang into action.
>>
>>
>> SELECT
>>   Count(P.POSTID) as Utterances
>> FROM
>>   POST P, POSTER P2A, MESSAGEID M, SUBJECT S, POSTBODY B
>> WHERE
>>   P.POSTERID = P2A.POSTERID  AND
>>   P.MSGID = M.MSGID  AND
>>   P.SUBJECTID = S.SUBJECTID  AND
>>   P.POSTID = B.POSTID  AND
>>   P.GROUPID = 1 AND
>>   P2A.POSTERNAMEID = 2 AND
>>   (UTCDATE BETWEEN '2003-07-21' AND '2018-12-13') AND
>>   (B.BODYNEW LIKE "* couldn't make this stuff *");
>>
>>
>> Utterances
>> 50
>>
> 
> That seems off by an order of magnitude.


That's the hits for that phrase.


"* make this stuff *" returns 90, and includes:

  ... could not make this stuff up!
  ... can't make this stuff up!

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