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No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server

Started byNomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com>
First post2018-09-09 00:32 +0200
Last post2018-09-09 23:54 +0800
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  No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2018-09-09 00:32 +0200
    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 16:06 -0700
    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-09 17:19 +1200
      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 22:36 -0700
        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 10:18 -0700
      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-09-09 11:26 -0400
      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net> - 2018-09-09 18:17 +0000
        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-09 11:50 -0700
          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server anon <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-09-10 15:26 -0500
            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 13:34 -0700
              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 13:57 -0700
            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 16:39 -0400
              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 17:34 -0700
                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 17:52 -0700
                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 19:25 -0700
            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server anon <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-09-10 16:56 -0500
              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 15:00 -0700
              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-11 13:34 +1200
                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 18:39 -0700
                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 18:54 -0700
                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-11 16:35 +1200
                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 23:49 -0700
                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 03:58 -0700
                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-11 06:51 -0500
                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 05:16 -0700
                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-11 08:45 -0400
                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 06:03 -0700
                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-12 08:41 +1200
                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-11 14:42 -0700
                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2018-09-11 16:51 -0500
                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-11 14:55 -0700
                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 15:10 -0700
                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 15:26 -0700
                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 14:54 -0700
                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-11 06:21 -0700
                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-12 08:46 +1200
                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-11 14:47 -0700
                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-12 13:47 +1200
                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-12 06:51 -0700
                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server anon <noreply@mixnym.net> - 2018-09-10 20:39 -0500
                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 00:51 -0700
                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 02:26 -0700
                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-09-10 23:20 -0400
                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 20:27 -0700
                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 20:43 -0700
                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-11 16:30 +1200
                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 22:01 -0700
                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-11 14:59 +0000
                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-09-11 17:08 -0500
                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-12 00:28 +0000
                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-09-11 20:46 -0500
                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-09-12 18:17 +1200
                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-09-12 19:34 -0500
                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-13 13:59 +0000
                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-09-13 16:57 -0500
                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-13 22:39 +0000
                                      Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2018-09-14 20:13 -0700
                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-15 11:54 +0000
                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2018-09-15 08:41 -0400
                                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-15 16:04 +0000
                                        Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-15 15:55 +0000
                                    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-15 11:33 -0700
                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-12 16:11 +0000
                              Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2018-09-12 14:10 -0400
                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 11:30 -0700
                                Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-12 18:35 +0000
                                  Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 12:00 -0700
                          Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 20:53 -0700
                            Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-12 00:17 -0700
    Re: No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 23:54 +0800

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#466378 — No. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server

FromNomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com>
Date2018-09-09 00:32 +0200
SubjectNo. 1 paid utility in Mac App Store steals browser history, sends it to Chinese server
Message-ID<4a010466d8bf0797547c4cd089c0402f@dizum.com>
Woops!

https://9to5mac.com/2018/09/07/adware-doctor/

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#466380

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-08 16:06 -0700
Message-ID<ea926234-6b95-4a36-92c8-43d9c7fb4188@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466378
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 3:43:15 PM UTC-7, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> Woops!
> 
> https://9to5mac.com/2018/09/07/adware-doctor/



Having to endure the use of Forth is too much for Snit Glasser to deal with. Now Klaus Schadenfreude on the other end of the line doesn't matter. All that matters is Snit Glasser gets to deliver the punchline. So how to respond? Don't reply to the post. Reason isn't part of ruse and never can be. Being autonomous as it is, the listserv concept will never go away but it'll never be what it once was. Please give a single time of an effective job creator that has built its fortune by not focusing on its clients or services. 



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#466415

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2018-09-09 17:19 +1200
Message-ID<pn2ah5$upp$1@adenine.netfront.net>
In reply to#466378
On 2018-09-08 22:32:40 +0000, Nomen Nescio said:
> 
> Woops!
> 
> https://9to5mac.com/2018/09/07/adware-doctor/

There's around 30 apps that "steal" data. In most, if not all, cases 
it's probably so they can provide a better service for all users (by 
keeping track of advert servers to block, for example), but of course 
the scaredy-cat conspiracy-nutter Americans are all jumping up and down 
in horror, and claiming the sky is falling, yet again.  :-\

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#466417

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-08 22:36 -0700
Message-ID<f9c0eaa1-fbbe-4c5f-a86f-7e44723221e3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466415
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 10:19:36 PM UTC-7, Your Name wrote:
> On 2018-09-08 22:32:40 +0000, Nomen Nescio said:
> > 
> > Woops!
> > 
> > https://9to5mac.com/2018/09/07/adware-doctor/
> 
> There's around 30 apps that "steal" data. In most, if not all, cases 
> it's probably so they can provide a better service for all users (by 
> keeping track of advert servers to block, for example), but of course 
> the scaredy-cat conspiracy-nutter Americans are all jumping up and down 
> in horror, and claiming the sky is falling, yet again.  :-\



chrisv's original statement stands literal and correct. Another successful VPN test. That is if you count useless crap as a success. Is this for real? 

Klaus 'The Shill' Schadenfreude is four seconds away from being in my kill filter. 

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#466480

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-09 10:18 -0700
Message-ID<cb961884-fa9c-4db6-aab4-cfdf958d92e0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466417
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 10:37:01 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 10:19:36 PM UTC-7, Your Name wrote:
> > On 2018-09-08 22:32:40 +0000, Nomen Nescio said:
> > > 
> > > Woops!
> > > 
> > > https://9to5mac.com/2018/09/07/adware-doctor/
> > 
> > There's around 30 apps that "steal" data. In most, if not all, cases 
> > it's probably so they can provide a better service for all users (by 
> > keeping track of advert servers to block, for example), but of course 
> > the scaredy-cat conspiracy-nutter Americans are all jumping up and down 
> > in horror, and claiming the sky is falling, yet again.  :-\
> 
> 
> 
> chrisv's original statement stands literal and correct. Another successful VPN test. That is if you count useless crap as a success. Is this for real? 
> 
> Klaus 'The Shill' Schadenfreude is four seconds away from being in my kill filter. 
> 
> -- 
> Get Rich Slow!
> https://goo.gl/Fho5Nq
> http://www.5z8.info/trojan_p4g1zy_how-to-skin-a-gerbil
> Jonas Eklundh



Of course I quoted specific examples of Jonas Eklundh flooding every group I post to, focusing on ego and not tech, etc. His response: to change the topic. All that matters is that Jonas Eklundh gets to express his automated call and then hang up and giggle about it. The fact that Klaus Schadenfreude is an innocent patsy on the other end of the phone is his motivation. 

Perhaps you use it wrong. Do you not understand the use of encryption? 

Trinity is definitely my second favorite DE and the only one I suggest to Windows morons. Primary interface is GNOME, though. Being able to do what Klaus Schadenfreude does is all you require after transitioning. 

Over and over, the refrain is he wants to "talk tech", but Jonas Eklundh spends most of his time whining about "obsession". 

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#466470

FromWolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca>
Date2018-09-09 11:26 -0400
Message-ID<0ZalD.5064$6y.4592@fx09.iad>
In reply to#466415
On 2018-09-09 01:19, Your Name wrote:
> On 2018-09-08 22:32:40 +0000, Nomen Nescio said:
>>
>> Woops!
>>
>> https://9to5mac.com/2018/09/07/adware-doctor/
> 
> There's around 30 apps that "steal" data. In most, if not all, cases 
> it's probably so they can provide a better service for all users (by 
> keeping track of advert servers to block, for example), but of course 
> the scaredy-cat conspiracy-nutter Americans are all jumping up and down 
> in horror, and claiming the sky is falling, yet again.  :-\
> 


"Better service" is satire, right?

Sending ads to a user is not a service.

-- 
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Complexity is not a condition to be tamed, but a lesson to be learned. 
(James Bridley, 2018)

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#466503

FromArlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date2018-09-09 18:17 +0000
Message-ID<pn3o2v$tdp$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#466415
On 8 Sep 2018 22:19:33 GMT, Your Name wrote:

> There's around 30 apps that "steal" data. In most, if not all, cases 
> it's probably so they can provide a better service for all users (by 
> keeping track of advert servers to block, for example), but of course 
> the scaredy-cat conspiracy-nutter Americans are all jumping up and down 
> in horror, and claiming the sky is falling, yet again.  :-\

*Facts don't fit into the Apple Apologists' imaginary belief system.*

It should be noted that Your Name is a well-known Apple Apologist.
That means he makes up excuse after excuse after excuse for Apple behavior.

I was the first one to report this (days ago) to the mac groups:
  EnGadget: Popular Mac app steals users' history & sends it to China 
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.apps/IYoKdcFnsGA>

In this case, yet again, Your Name gets the facts wrong.

The problem isn't what the app does.
The problem is that the app violate's Apple's own rules.

Those rules are what Apple Marketing touts to make customers *feel* safe!

Worse, the problem was reported to Apple more than a month ago!
And the app was still (at the time of my post) not revoked by Apple.

Since the primary reason people pay more for Apple products (IMHO), 
is that they want Apple Marketing to make them *feel* safe, it was strange
that the referenced article that broke the news concluded, verbatim:
  "Wardle points out the app is in violation of Apple's App Store Rules
   & Guidelines. But though he notified Apple of the issue a month ago, 
   it's still available on the App Store, which is troubling to say
   the least."

In summary, while the well-known Apple Apologist Your Name constantly makes
up childishly inane excuses for Apple behavior (as do all the Apple
Apologists), if the Apple consumer's primary concern is for Apple Marketing
to make them *feel* safe (even though they're not actually safe since the
weak links of all consumer computer operating systems is the same), then
Apple yet again failed their loyal customers by not revoking an app that
they *knew* violated their own guidelines.

I only speak fact.
*Such facts don't fit into the Apple Apologists' imaginary belief system.*

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#466509

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-09-09 11:50 -0700
Message-ID<fvl8c3Fo1u5U20@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#466503
On 9/9/18 11:17 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> On 8 Sep 2018 22:19:33 GMT, Your Name wrote:
> 
>> There's around 30 apps that "steal" data. In most, if not all, cases
>> it's probably so they can provide a better service for all users (by
>> keeping track of advert servers to block, for example), but of course
>> the scaredy-cat conspiracy-nutter Americans are all jumping up and down
>> in horror, and claiming the sky is falling, yet again.  :-\
> 
> *Facts don't fit into the Apple Apologists' imaginary belief system.*
> 
> It should be noted that Your Name is a well-known Apple Apologist.
> That means he makes up excuse after excuse after excuse for Apple behavior.
> 
> I was the first one to report this (days ago) to the mac groups:
>    EnGadget: Popular Mac app steals users' history & sends it to China
>   <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.apps/IYoKdcFnsGA>
> 
> In this case, yet again, Your Name gets the facts wrong.
> 
> The problem isn't what the app does.
> The problem is that the app violate's Apple's own rules.
> 
> Those rules are what Apple Marketing touts to make customers *feel* safe!
> 
> Worse, the problem was reported to Apple more than a month ago!
> And the app was still (at the time of my post) not revoked by Apple.
> 
> Since the primary reason people pay more for Apple products (IMHO),
> is that they want Apple Marketing to make them *feel* safe, it was strange
> that the referenced article that broke the news concluded, verbatim:
>    "Wardle points out the app is in violation of Apple's App Store Rules
>     & Guidelines. But though he notified Apple of the issue a month ago,
>     it's still available on the App Store, which is troubling to say
>     the least."
> 
> In summary, while the well-known Apple Apologist Your Name constantly makes
> up childishly inane excuses for Apple behavior (as do all the Apple
> Apologists), if the Apple consumer's primary concern is for Apple Marketing
> to make them *feel* safe (even though they're not actually safe since the
> weak links of all consumer computer operating systems is the same), then
> Apple yet again failed their loyal customers by not revoking an app that
> they *knew* violated their own guidelines.
> 
> I only speak fact.
> *Such facts don't fit into the Apple Apologists' imaginary belief system.*
> 

Good grief... you are using yet ANOTHER name to try to convince YOURSELF 
you do not like Apple products. Your over-the-top protests suggest you 
really DO like them.

-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#466701

Fromanon <noreply@mixnym.net>
Date2018-09-10 15:26 -0500
Message-ID<pn6k24$ade$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#466509
on 9/9/2018, Snit supposed :
> On 9/9/18 11:17 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
>> On 8 Sep 2018 22:19:33 GMT, Your Name wrote:
>> 
>>> There's around 30 apps that "steal" data. In most, if not all, 
>>> cases
>>> it's probably so they can provide a better service for all users 
>>> (by
>>> keeping track of advert servers to block, for example), but of 
>>> course
>>> the scaredy-cat conspiracy-nutter Americans are all jumping up and 
>>> down
>>> in horror, and claiming the sky is falling, yet again.  :-\
>> 
>> *Facts don't fit into the Apple Apologists' imaginary belief 
>> system.*
>> 
>> It should be noted that Your Name is a well-known Apple Apologist.
>> That means he makes up excuse after excuse after excuse for Apple 
>> behavior.
>> 
>> I was the first one to report this (days ago) to the mac groups:
>>    EnGadget: Popular Mac app steals users' history & sends it to 
>> China
>>   
>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.apps/IYoKdcFnsGA>
>> 
>> In this case, yet again, Your Name gets the facts wrong.
>> 
>> The problem isn't what the app does.
>> The problem is that the app violate's Apple's own rules.
>> 
>> Those rules are what Apple Marketing touts to make customers *feel* 
>> safe!
>> 
>> Worse, the problem was reported to Apple more than a month ago!
>> And the app was still (at the time of my post) not revoked by 
>> Apple.
>> 
>> Since the primary reason people pay more for Apple products (IMHO),
>> is that they want Apple Marketing to make them *feel* safe, it was 
>> strange
>> that the referenced article that broke the news concluded, 
>> verbatim:
>>    "Wardle points out the app is in violation of Apple's App Store 
>> Rules
>>     & Guidelines. But though he notified Apple of the issue a month 
>> ago,
>>     it's still available on the App Store, which is troubling to 
>> say
>>     the least."
>> 
>> In summary, while the well-known Apple Apologist Your Name 
>> constantly makes
>> up childishly inane excuses for Apple behavior (as do all the Apple
>> Apologists), if the Apple consumer's primary concern is for Apple 
>> Marketing
>> to make them *feel* safe (even though they're not actually safe 
>> since the
>> weak links of all consumer computer operating systems is the same), 
>> then
>> Apple yet again failed their loyal customers by not revoking an app 
>> that
>> they *knew* violated their own guidelines.
>> 
>> I only speak fact.
>> *Such facts don't fit into the Apple Apologists' imaginary belief 
>> system.*
>> 
>
> Good grief... you are using yet ANOTHER name to try to convince 
> YOURSELF you do not like Apple products. Your over-the-top protests 
> suggest you really DO like them.

  I was considering switching to apple once.  I had to look something 
up on the web on a customer's apple computer.  They had an apple hockey 
puck mouse.  After seeing that absolute cheap piece of junk, I never 
considered getting an apple again.  I still laugh every time I think of 
it.  Reminded me of the 1950's toy cars from Japan that were pressed 
out of Jap beer cans.

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#466705

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-09-10 13:34 -0700
Message-ID<fvo2qvFcg50U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#466701
On 9/10/18 1:26 PM, anon wrote:
> on 9/9/2018, Snit supposed :
>> On 9/9/18 11:17 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
>>> On 8 Sep 2018 22:19:33 GMT, Your Name wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's around 30 apps that "steal" data. In most, if not all, cases
>>>> it's probably so they can provide a better service for all users (by
>>>> keeping track of advert servers to block, for example), but of course
>>>> the scaredy-cat conspiracy-nutter Americans are all jumping up and down
>>>> in horror, and claiming the sky is falling, yet again.  :-\
>>>
>>> *Facts don't fit into the Apple Apologists' imaginary belief system.*
>>>
>>> It should be noted that Your Name is a well-known Apple Apologist.
>>> That means he makes up excuse after excuse after excuse for Apple 
>>> behavior.
>>>
>>> I was the first one to report this (days ago) to the mac groups:
>>>    EnGadget: Popular Mac app steals users' history & sends it to China
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.apps/IYoKdcFnsGA>
>>>
>>> In this case, yet again, Your Name gets the facts wrong.
>>>
>>> The problem isn't what the app does.
>>> The problem is that the app violate's Apple's own rules.
>>>
>>> Those rules are what Apple Marketing touts to make customers *feel* 
>>> safe!
>>>
>>> Worse, the problem was reported to Apple more than a month ago!
>>> And the app was still (at the time of my post) not revoked by Apple.
>>>
>>> Since the primary reason people pay more for Apple products (IMHO),
>>> is that they want Apple Marketing to make them *feel* safe, it was 
>>> strange
>>> that the referenced article that broke the news concluded, verbatim:
>>>    "Wardle points out the app is in violation of Apple's App Store Rules
>>>     & Guidelines. But though he notified Apple of the issue a month ago,
>>>     it's still available on the App Store, which is troubling to say
>>>     the least."
>>>
>>> In summary, while the well-known Apple Apologist Your Name constantly 
>>> makes
>>> up childishly inane excuses for Apple behavior (as do all the Apple
>>> Apologists), if the Apple consumer's primary concern is for Apple 
>>> Marketing
>>> to make them *feel* safe (even though they're not actually safe since 
>>> the
>>> weak links of all consumer computer operating systems is the same), then
>>> Apple yet again failed their loyal customers by not revoking an app that
>>> they *knew* violated their own guidelines.
>>>
>>> I only speak fact.
>>> *Such facts don't fit into the Apple Apologists' imaginary belief 
>>> system.*
>>>
>>
>> Good grief... you are using yet ANOTHER name to try to convince 
>> YOURSELF you do not like Apple products. Your over-the-top protests 
>> suggest you really DO like them.
> 
>   I was considering switching to apple once.  I had to look something up 
> on the web on a customer's apple computer.  They had an apple hockey 
> puck mouse.  After seeing that absolute cheap piece of junk, I never 
> considered getting an apple again.  I still laugh every time I think of 
> it.  Reminded me of the 1950's toy cars from Japan that were pressed out 
> of Jap beer cans.

I like a lot of Apple's products, but NOT their mice. Have not in years. 
Even the old mice I used to like I would not like now. I use a Logitech 
MX 518... serves me much better.

If I were to judge Apple by their mice... the hockey puck monstrosities 
or ANY of their newer ones... I would never want to touch another Apple 
product.


-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#466708

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-10 13:57 -0700
Message-ID<c721194d-d70e-48de-9193-1d4c1bd1a8a0@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466705
On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 1:34:42 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> On 9/10/18 1:26 PM, anon wrote:
> > on 9/9/2018, Snit supposed :
> >> On 9/9/18 11:17 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> >>> On 8 Sep 2018 22:19:33 GMT, Your Name wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> There's around 30 apps that "steal" data. In most, if not all, cases
> >>>> it's probably so they can provide a better service for all users (by
> >>>> keeping track of advert servers to block, for example), but of course
> >>>> the scaredy-cat conspiracy-nutter Americans are all jumping up and down
> >>>> in horror, and claiming the sky is falling, yet again.  :-\
> >>>
> >>> *Facts don't fit into the Apple Apologists' imaginary belief system.*
> >>>
> >>> It should be noted that Your Name is a well-known Apple Apologist.
> >>> That means he makes up excuse after excuse after excuse for Apple 
> >>> behavior.
> >>>
> >>> I was the first one to report this (days ago) to the mac groups:
> >>>    EnGadget: Popular Mac app steals users' history & sends it to China
> >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.apps/IYoKdcFnsGA>
> >>>
> >>> In this case, yet again, Your Name gets the facts wrong.
> >>>
> >>> The problem isn't what the app does.
> >>> The problem is that the app violate's Apple's own rules.
> >>>
> >>> Those rules are what Apple Marketing touts to make customers *feel* 
> >>> safe!
> >>>
> >>> Worse, the problem was reported to Apple more than a month ago!
> >>> And the app was still (at the time of my post) not revoked by Apple.
> >>>
> >>> Since the primary reason people pay more for Apple products (IMHO),
> >>> is that they want Apple Marketing to make them *feel* safe, it was 
> >>> strange
> >>> that the referenced article that broke the news concluded, verbatim:
> >>>    "Wardle points out the app is in violation of Apple's App Store Rules
> >>>     & Guidelines. But though he notified Apple of the issue a month ago,
> >>>     it's still available on the App Store, which is troubling to say
> >>>     the least."
> >>>
> >>> In summary, while the well-known Apple Apologist Your Name constantly 
> >>> makes
> >>> up childishly inane excuses for Apple behavior (as do all the Apple
> >>> Apologists), if the Apple consumer's primary concern is for Apple 
> >>> Marketing
> >>> to make them *feel* safe (even though they're not actually safe since 
> >>> the
> >>> weak links of all consumer computer operating systems is the same), then
> >>> Apple yet again failed their loyal customers by not revoking an app that
> >>> they *knew* violated their own guidelines.
> >>>
> >>> I only speak fact.
> >>> *Such facts don't fit into the Apple Apologists' imaginary belief 
> >>> system.*
> >>>
> >>
> >> Good grief... you are using yet ANOTHER name to try to convince 
> >> YOURSELF you do not like Apple products. Your over-the-top protests 
> >> suggest you really DO like them.
> > 
> >   I was considering switching to apple once.  I had to look something up 
> > on the web on a customer's apple computer.  They had an apple hockey 
> > puck mouse.  After seeing that absolute cheap piece of junk, I never 
> > considered getting an apple again.  I still laugh every time I think of 
> > it.  Reminded me of the 1950's toy cars from Japan that were pressed out 
> > of Jap beer cans.
> 
> I like a lot of Apple's products, but NOT their mice. Have not in years. 
> Even the old mice I used to like I would not like now. I use a Logitech 
> MX 518... serves me much better.
> 
> If I were to judge Apple by their mice... the hockey puck monstrosities 
> or ANY of their newer ones... I would never want to touch another Apple 
> product.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
> cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
> somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
> 
> They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> 
> <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>



It was Desk Rabbit who was openly asking how better to obscure his trolling. Pull up a background report on Desk Rabbit and you will find that he was in prison for a long time. Anyone know what for? The investigation sites can not go into that degree of specificity and public lists in his area are private unless subpoenaed. The guy is as loved as a drunken karaoke singer -- and with good cause. Klaus Schadenfreude created at least 20 KVMS in the last year or so. Without Linux that would not be possible. 

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#466706

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-09-10 16:39 -0400
Message-ID<100920181639175560%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#466701
In article <pn6k24$ade$1@news.mixmin.net>, anon <noreply@mixnym.net>
wrote:

> 
>   I was considering switching to apple once.  I had to look something 
> up on the web on a customer's apple computer.  They had an apple hockey 
> puck mouse.  After seeing that absolute cheap piece of junk, I never 
> considered getting an apple again.  I still laugh every time I think of 
> it.  Reminded me of the 1950's toy cars from Japan that were pressed 
> out of Jap beer cans.

use whatever mouse/trackball/trackpad you want, usb or bluetooth.

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#466741

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-09-10 17:34 -0700
Message-ID<fvogtgFf5qcU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#466706
On 9/10/18 1:39 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article <pn6k24$ade$1@news.mixmin.net>, anon <noreply@mixnym.net>
> wrote:
> 
>>
>>    I was considering switching to apple once.  I had to look something
>> up on the web on a customer's apple computer.  They had an apple hockey
>> puck mouse.  After seeing that absolute cheap piece of junk, I never
>> considered getting an apple again.  I still laugh every time I think of
>> it.  Reminded me of the 1950's toy cars from Japan that were pressed
>> out of Jap beer cans.
> 
> use whatever mouse/trackball/trackpad you want, usb or bluetooth.
> 

Right... I use a Logitech MX 580 with USB Overdrive.

    <https://youtu.be/V791-XhhOxY>

Can do more with it than anything I have seen on Linux.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#466744

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-10 17:52 -0700
Message-ID<7f36c0c5-5dce-481a-8922-ab357a944eeb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466741
On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 5:34:59 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> On 9/10/18 1:39 PM, nospam wrote:
> > In article <pn6k24$ade$1@news.mixmin.net>, anon <noreply@mixnym.net>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >>    I was considering switching to apple once.  I had to look something
> >> up on the web on a customer's apple computer.  They had an apple hockey
> >> puck mouse.  After seeing that absolute cheap piece of junk, I never
> >> considered getting an apple again.  I still laugh every time I think of
> >> it.  Reminded me of the 1950's toy cars from Japan that were pressed
> >> out of Jap beer cans.
> > 
> > use whatever mouse/trackball/trackpad you want, usb or bluetooth.
> > 
> 
> Right... I use a Logitech MX 580 with USB Overdrive.
> 
>     <https://youtu.be/V791-XhhOxY>
> 
> Can do more with it than anything I have seen on Linux.
> 
> -- 
> Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
> cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
> somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
> 
> They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> 
> <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>



Ending support for anything God uses is needed for progress. God can't get anything else to work, either. 

What it looks like matters little and not worth obsessing over, especially if it's web based. 



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#466752

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-10 19:25 -0700
Message-ID<9a3bcb31-83e8-4614-9342-36e3fc17e22f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466744
On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 5:52:47 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 5:34:59 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> > On 9/10/18 1:39 PM, nospam wrote:
> > > In article <pn6k24$ade$1@news.mixmin.net>, anon <noreply@mixnym.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > >>
> > >>    I was considering switching to apple once.  I had to look something
> > >> up on the web on a customer's apple computer.  They had an apple hockey
> > >> puck mouse.  After seeing that absolute cheap piece of junk, I never
> > >> considered getting an apple again.  I still laugh every time I think of
> > >> it.  Reminded me of the 1950's toy cars from Japan that were pressed
> > >> out of Jap beer cans.
> > > 
> > > use whatever mouse/trackball/trackpad you want, usb or bluetooth.
> > > 
> > 
> > Right... I use a Logitech MX 580 with USB Overdrive.
> > 
> >     <https://youtu.be/V791-XhhOxY>
> > 
> > Can do more with it than anything I have seen on Linux.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
> > cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
> > somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
> > 
> > They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> > 
> > <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
> 
> 
> 
> Ending support for anything God uses is needed for progress. God can't get anything else to work, either. 
> 
> What it looks like matters little and not worth obsessing over, especially if it's web based. 
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> Jonas Eklundh



Your system will crawl while this takes place. And it takes a long time. 

The content clearly is a bunch of baby sh*t.  Which means... 

Frankly I do not really have any hope. Melzzzzz is being controlled by Apple. 

It's a long, drawn out conflict, and Melzzzzz is simultaneously unable to stop his trolling remarks, while posting with forgeries of Klaus Schadenfreude. 

Klaus Schadenfreude obviously has a lot of know-how to show and he apparently wants to write tutorials. Unfortunately, this is perhaps the worst locale for doing that because a large part of response is wailing, lying and other baloney. 



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#466715

Fromanon <noreply@mixnym.net>
Date2018-09-10 16:56 -0500
Message-ID<pn6p9p$huf$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#466701
anon formulated the question :
> on 9/9/2018, Snit supposed :
>> On 9/9/18 11:17 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
>>> On 8 Sep 2018 22:19:33 GMT, Your Name wrote:
>>> 
>>>> There's around 30 apps that "steal" data. In most, if not all, 
>>>> cases
>>>> it's probably so they can provide a better service for all users 
>>>> (by
>>>> keeping track of advert servers to block, for example), but of 
>>>> course
>>>> the scaredy-cat conspiracy-nutter Americans are all jumping up 
>>>> and down
>>>> in horror, and claiming the sky is falling, yet again.  :-\
>>> 
>>> *Facts don't fit into the Apple Apologists' imaginary belief 
>>> system.*
>>> 
>>> It should be noted that Your Name is a well-known Apple Apologist.
>>> That means he makes up excuse after excuse after excuse for Apple 
>>> behavior.
>>> 
>>> I was the first one to report this (days ago) to the mac groups:
>>>    EnGadget: Popular Mac app steals users' history & sends it to 
>>> China
>>>   
>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.apps/IYoKdcFnsGA>
>>> 
>>> In this case, yet again, Your Name gets the facts wrong.
>>> 
>>> The problem isn't what the app does.
>>> The problem is that the app violate's Apple's own rules.
>>> 
>>> Those rules are what Apple Marketing touts to make customers 
>>> *feel* safe!
>>> 
>>> Worse, the problem was reported to Apple more than a month ago!
>>> And the app was still (at the time of my post) not revoked by 
>>> Apple.
>>> 
>>> Since the primary reason people pay more for Apple products 
>>> (IMHO),
>>> is that they want Apple Marketing to make them *feel* safe, it was 
>>> strange
>>> that the referenced article that broke the news concluded, 
>>> verbatim:
>>>    "Wardle points out the app is in violation of Apple's App Store 
>>> Rules
>>>     & Guidelines. But though he notified Apple of the issue a 
>>> month ago,
>>>     it's still available on the App Store, which is troubling to 
>>> say
>>>     the least."
>>> 
>>> In summary, while the well-known Apple Apologist Your Name 
>>> constantly makes
>>> up childishly inane excuses for Apple behavior (as do all the 
>>> Apple
>>> Apologists), if the Apple consumer's primary concern is for Apple 
>>> Marketing
>>> to make them *feel* safe (even though they're not actually safe 
>>> since the
>>> weak links of all consumer computer operating systems is the 
>>> same), then
>>> Apple yet again failed their loyal customers by not revoking an 
>>> app that
>>> they *knew* violated their own guidelines.
>>> 
>>> I only speak fact.
>>> *Such facts don't fit into the Apple Apologists' imaginary belief 
>>> system.*
>>> 
>>
>> Good grief... you are using yet ANOTHER name to try to convince 
>> YOURSELF you do not like Apple products. Your over-the-top protests 
>> suggest you really DO like them.
>
>   I was considering switching to apple once.  I had to look something 
> up on the web on a customer's apple computer.  They had an apple 
> hockey puck mouse.  After seeing that absolute cheap piece of junk, I 
> never considered getting an apple again.  I still laugh every time I 
> think of it.  Reminded me of the 1950's toy cars from Japan that were 
> pressed out of Jap beer cans.

  What has kept me away from apple was the obvious poor design and 
workmanship of that mouse.  Would Rolls Royce put a vinyl seat in one 
of their cars?  It indicated to me a shoddy product.  I couldn't 
imagine what the insides of the computer was made of.  Chinese 
soldering like Radio Shack products?

  It was a sign from God!

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#466716

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-10 15:00 -0700
Message-ID<4073c91d-6b06-40e0-b01c-3ef900c633b8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466715
On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 2:56:11 PM UTC-7, anon wrote:
> anon formulated the question :
> > on 9/9/2018, Snit supposed :
> >> On 9/9/18 11:17 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> >>> On 8 Sep 2018 22:19:33 GMT, Your Name wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> There's around 30 apps that "steal" data. In most, if not all, 
> >>>> cases
> >>>> it's probably so they can provide a better service for all users 
> >>>> (by
> >>>> keeping track of advert servers to block, for example), but of 
> >>>> course
> >>>> the scaredy-cat conspiracy-nutter Americans are all jumping up 
> >>>> and down
> >>>> in horror, and claiming the sky is falling, yet again.  :-\
> >>> 
> >>> *Facts don't fit into the Apple Apologists' imaginary belief 
> >>> system.*
> >>> 
> >>> It should be noted that Your Name is a well-known Apple Apologist.
> >>> That means he makes up excuse after excuse after excuse for Apple 
> >>> behavior.
> >>> 
> >>> I was the first one to report this (days ago) to the mac groups:
> >>>    EnGadget: Popular Mac app steals users' history & sends it to 
> >>> China
> >>>   
> >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.apps/IYoKdcFnsGA>
> >>> 
> >>> In this case, yet again, Your Name gets the facts wrong.
> >>> 
> >>> The problem isn't what the app does.
> >>> The problem is that the app violate's Apple's own rules.
> >>> 
> >>> Those rules are what Apple Marketing touts to make customers 
> >>> *feel* safe!
> >>> 
> >>> Worse, the problem was reported to Apple more than a month ago!
> >>> And the app was still (at the time of my post) not revoked by 
> >>> Apple.
> >>> 
> >>> Since the primary reason people pay more for Apple products 
> >>> (IMHO),
> >>> is that they want Apple Marketing to make them *feel* safe, it was 
> >>> strange
> >>> that the referenced article that broke the news concluded, 
> >>> verbatim:
> >>>    "Wardle points out the app is in violation of Apple's App Store 
> >>> Rules
> >>>     & Guidelines. But though he notified Apple of the issue a 
> >>> month ago,
> >>>     it's still available on the App Store, which is troubling to 
> >>> say
> >>>     the least."
> >>> 
> >>> In summary, while the well-known Apple Apologist Your Name 
> >>> constantly makes
> >>> up childishly inane excuses for Apple behavior (as do all the 
> >>> Apple
> >>> Apologists), if the Apple consumer's primary concern is for Apple 
> >>> Marketing
> >>> to make them *feel* safe (even though they're not actually safe 
> >>> since the
> >>> weak links of all consumer computer operating systems is the 
> >>> same), then
> >>> Apple yet again failed their loyal customers by not revoking an 
> >>> app that
> >>> they *knew* violated their own guidelines.
> >>> 
> >>> I only speak fact.
> >>> *Such facts don't fit into the Apple Apologists' imaginary belief 
> >>> system.*
> >>> 
> >>
> >> Good grief... you are using yet ANOTHER name to try to convince 
> >> YOURSELF you do not like Apple products. Your over-the-top protests 
> >> suggest you really DO like them.
> >
> >   I was considering switching to apple once.  I had to look something 
> > up on the web on a customer's apple computer.  They had an apple 
> > hockey puck mouse.  After seeing that absolute cheap piece of junk, I 
> > never considered getting an apple again.  I still laugh every time I 
> > think of it.  Reminded me of the 1950's toy cars from Japan that were 
> > pressed out of Jap beer cans.
> 
>   What has kept me away from apple was the obvious poor design and 
> workmanship of that mouse.  Would Rolls Royce put a vinyl seat in one 
> of their cars?  It indicated to me a shoddy product.  I couldn't 
> imagine what the insides of the computer was made of.  Chinese 
> soldering like Radio Shack products?
> 
>   It was a sign from God!



What Jonas Eklundh does is certainly faster. Can you cease begging for my attention? 

Well... like I said, I know the flooder is Jeremy, who is a Automator user but I don't know if it could be used to flood so much. 

Who *doesn't* know that this kind of bunk is Jeremy's approach, not the modus operandi of Jonas Eklundh? It's all just nonsense... the flooding, the sock puppets, the writing of incomprehensible idiocy, the outbursts... the false bravado and willingness to show how ashamed he is over being banned from the playground for crapping in it again... just what Jeremy does. 

I won't ask Jeremy how any part of Jonas Eklundh's body tastes no matter how frequently Jeremy smooches it. 

Xfce is perhaps my second favorite DE and the only one I recommend to Mac morons. Primary interface is MATE, though. Instant familiarity to anybody who has used Windows is all you require after dealing with Tmux. I suspect we have two different notions about Jeremy. 

Given how regularly it is clear that Jeremy's post is some twist of  an observation Jonas Eklundh wrote which had been a beating on Jeremy for something he did which was daffy/false/etc... its clearly a daily demonstration of Jeremy's unending distress for having been so regularly pwned. 

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#466747

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2018-09-11 13:34 +1200
Message-ID<pn763i$2fr0$1@adenine.netfront.net>
In reply to#466715
On 2018-09-10 21:56:04 +0000, anon said:
> anon formulated the question :
>> 
>> I was considering switching to apple once.  I had to look something up 
>> on the web on a customer's apple computer.  They had an apple hockey 
>> puck mouse.  After seeing that absolute cheap piece of junk, I never 
>> considered getting an apple again.  I still laugh every time I think of 
>> it.  Reminded me of the 1950's toy cars from Japan that were pressed 
>> out of Jap beer cans.
> 
>   What has kept me away from apple was the obvious poor design and 
> workmanship of that mouse.  Would Rolls Royce put a vinyl seat in one 
> of their cars?  It indicated to me a shoddy product.  I couldn't 
> imagine what the insides of the computer was made of.  Chinese 
> soldering like Radio Shack products?
> 
>   It was a sign from God!

There was nothing inherently wrong with the "puck" mouse as such, other 
than some people apparently being too stupid to know which way was 
"up", despite a cable coming out of the top of it and a physical, 
visible button ... probably the same people who complain about USB 
socket and cables only going in one way because they're too damn lazy 
to simply turn the plug over.  :-\

There have certainly been worse mice from Apple and other makers. The 
silly "squeeze me" button on the later Apple mouse was a much sillier 
idea and a complete pain in the backside - I always switched that off 
on every Mac I set-up for people. Apple's Magic Mouse can also be a 
nuisance since you can't rest your fingers on it without it thinking 
you are making touch gestures (another "feature" to always turn off).

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#466748

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-09-10 18:39 -0700
Message-ID<fvoklpFfrhpU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#466747
On 9/10/18 6:34 PM, Your Name wrote:
> On 2018-09-10 21:56:04 +0000, anon said:
>> anon formulated the question :
>>>
>>> I was considering switching to apple once.  I had to look something 
>>> up on the web on a customer's apple computer.  They had an apple 
>>> hockey puck mouse.  After seeing that absolute cheap piece of junk, I 
>>> never considered getting an apple again.  I still laugh every time I 
>>> think of it.  Reminded me of the 1950's toy cars from Japan that were 
>>> pressed out of Jap beer cans.
>>
>>   What has kept me away from apple was the obvious poor design and 
>> workmanship of that mouse.  Would Rolls Royce put a vinyl seat in one 
>> of their cars?  It indicated to me a shoddy product.  I couldn't 
>> imagine what the insides of the computer was made of.  Chinese 
>> soldering like Radio Shack products?
>>
>>   It was a sign from God!
> 
> There was nothing inherently wrong with the "puck" mouse as such, other 
> than some people apparently being too stupid to know which way was "up", 
> despite a cable coming out of the top of it and a physical, visible 
> button ... probably the same people who complain about USB socket and 
> cables only going in one way because they're too damn lazy to simply 
> turn the plug over.  :-\

I think the puck mouse was absurd... it is not just about knowing which 
way is "up", it is also about just grabbing it and it being natural. And 
having cables you can put in either way is a better approach.

> There have certainly been worse mice from Apple and other makers. The 
> silly "squeeze me" button on the later Apple mouse was a much sillier 
> idea and a complete pain in the backside - I always switched that off on 
> every Mac I set-up for people. Apple's Magic Mouse can also be a 
> nuisance since you can't rest your fingers on it without it thinking you 
> are making touch gestures (another "feature" to always turn off).

They have not made a decent mouse in a long, long time.


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#466750

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-10 18:54 -0700
Message-ID<169e9485-711f-41e0-bec4-6328d835f697@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466748
On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 6:39:11 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> On 9/10/18 6:34 PM, Your Name wrote:
> > On 2018-09-10 21:56:04 +0000, anon said:
> >> anon formulated the question :
> >>>
> >>> I was considering switching to apple once.  I had to look something 
> >>> up on the web on a customer's apple computer.  They had an apple 
> >>> hockey puck mouse.  After seeing that absolute cheap piece of junk, I 
> >>> never considered getting an apple again.  I still laugh every time I 
> >>> think of it.  Reminded me of the 1950's toy cars from Japan that were 
> >>> pressed out of Jap beer cans.
> >>
> >>   What has kept me away from apple was the obvious poor design and 
> >> workmanship of that mouse.  Would Rolls Royce put a vinyl seat in one 
> >> of their cars?  It indicated to me a shoddy product.  I couldn't 
> >> imagine what the insides of the computer was made of.  Chinese 
> >> soldering like Radio Shack products?
> >>
> >>   It was a sign from God!
> > 
> > There was nothing inherently wrong with the "puck" mouse as such, other 
> > than some people apparently being too stupid to know which way was "up", 
> > despite a cable coming out of the top of it and a physical, visible 
> > button ... probably the same people who complain about USB socket and 
> > cables only going in one way because they're too damn lazy to simply 
> > turn the plug over.  :-\
> 
> I think the puck mouse was absurd... it is not just about knowing which 
> way is "up", it is also about just grabbing it and it being natural. And 
> having cables you can put in either way is a better approach.
> 
> > There have certainly been worse mice from Apple and other makers. The 
> > silly "squeeze me" button on the later Apple mouse was a much sillier 
> > idea and a complete pain in the backside - I always switched that off on 
> > every Mac I set-up for people. Apple's Magic Mouse can also be a 
> > nuisance since you can't rest your fingers on it without it thinking you 
> > are making touch gestures (another "feature" to always turn off).
> 
> They have not made a decent mouse in a long, long time.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
> cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
> somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
> 
> They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> 
> <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>



Sandman blames Chris Ahlstrom for what others do. Here is a list of names Jonas Eklundh has admitted he attributes to Chris Ahlstrom "Cactus Pete", "Donald", "Donald Miller", "Horace McSwain", "Hymen", "meat", "Mike Weaver", "Modena IV Drid", "Omar Murad Asfour", "Rhino Plastee", "Soapy", "SopwithCamel", "Sunny Day", "Takuya Saitoh", "The Letter Q", "tmelmosfire", "zevon". All total lies, of course. But when the stats were run, it turns out beyond any doubt, Chris Ahlstrom was far more "obsessive" than anybody else. What did Chris Ahlstrom have to say about this miraculous, years long string of oddities? Most of the time he would try to push the reader to trust they're real people who just happened to have an extremely bizarre entrance into usenet. Doesn't pass the laugh test. 

He is as incompetent as Chris Ahlstrom. I have known fish who argue better than Chris Ahlstrom does. 



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