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| First post | 2018-09-02 06:43 +0000 |
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Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 06:43 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 00:01 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 02:53 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-02 12:34 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Nobody you know <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2018-09-02 10:36 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:49 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:31 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 19:23 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 12:44 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:50 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 21:13 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 14:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-09-02 21:52 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 21:58 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 15:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 22:41 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-02 19:07 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 19:29 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-04 07:33 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 06:37 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 06:40 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-04 10:05 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-04 09:14 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-04 15:58 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 11:48 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-04 18:59 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 16:21 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 23:49 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 17:08 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 17:24 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 17:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-04 22:26 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 21:39 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 22:03 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 07:03 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 07:09 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 07:36 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 07:55 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-05 16:47 +0000
crApple products chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 12:15 -0500
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 01:03 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 18:20 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:17 -0700
Re: crApple products chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 09:47 -0500
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 08:06 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 14:36 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:51 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:30 -0700
Re: crApple products DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-06 12:44 -0400
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 11:28 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:35 -0700
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 23:57 +0000
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 00:17 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 21:25 -0400
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 03:51 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 22:00 -0700
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:44 +0000
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 23:15 +0000
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:34 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:42 -0400
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:11 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-07 18:43 -0700
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:40 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:53 -0400
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 23:12 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:20 -0400
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:22 -0700
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 21:21 +0000
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 21:39 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 14:56 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:55 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 09:12 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 09:32 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 21:37 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 14:47 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 22:12 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 15:29 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 15:47 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 22:48 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 15:57 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 23:26 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-09 16:00 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 16:50 -0700
Re: crApple products Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> - 2018-09-09 19:43 -0400
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 17:05 -0700
"Gain" is the _ input volume. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-09-09 18:57 -0700
Re: "Gain" is the _ input volume. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 19:26 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 14:53 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 15:04 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 15:19 -0700
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:28 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:39 -0400
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 14:06 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:39 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:29 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:10 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-07 18:42 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:52 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 10:15 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:29 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 21:47 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-05 16:44 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 09:59 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:34 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:31 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 08:13 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 12:42 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 06:00 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 09:06 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 06:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:30 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> - 2018-09-06 23:23 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 23:48 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:50 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:26 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 07:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-09-06 22:39 +0200
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 13:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:05 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 18:26 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:53 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 23:26 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:50 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> - 2018-09-06 23:29 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 19:39 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> - 2018-09-06 23:47 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> - 2018-09-06 19:50 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:52 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 17:26 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 23:48 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> - 2018-09-06 19:53 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 17:10 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:22 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:29 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 16:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 11:25 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 11:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 23:46 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-07 10:58 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-07 09:16 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:50 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 23:16 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:35 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:44 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 14:07 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-08 14:14 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 10:06 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:39 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 07:25 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 05:53 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 06:37 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-10 15:45 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 11:05 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 12:46 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-10 23:25 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 12:23 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:32 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-02 22:48 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 22:57 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 16:27 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 15:20 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-02 19:06 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 17:56 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 14:17 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-02 19:05 -0400
Frankly, I don't notice [any] difference [in the Kernel] Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 07:21 -0700
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 14:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a7fb76c0-1b45-4149-82ca-1c8b0a118b08@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466120 |
On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 1:39:39 PM UTC-7, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > SilverSlimer wrote: > > > On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote: > >> > >>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote: > >>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called crap > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there's been so much garbage code written in it... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it on local machine ;) > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at > >>>>>>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they > >>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve* > >>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve > >>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? > >>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past > >>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have > >>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux > >>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online > >>>>>>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now > >>>>>>>> I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. > >>>>>>>> Just curious to see how you people would generally do it and how > >>>>>>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might: > >>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post > >>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area > >>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else: > >>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but > >>>>>>>> picked these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly > >>>>>>>> before coming up with the task. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing > >>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do > >>>>>>>> here: > >>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, > >>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active > >>>>>>>> link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the > >>>>>>>> exact same, > >>>>>>>> of course): > >>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, > >>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color > >>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here: > >>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's > >>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing > >>>>>>>> system. And still failed. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the > >>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go > >>>>>>>> fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers > >>>>>>>> of sound. My end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection > >>>>>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. > >>>>>>>> Also have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and > >>>>>>>> end the connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few > >>>>>>>> took it on, but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN > >>>>>>>> services, so makes sense why others have not done it! I did end up > >>>>>>>> with a VPN service and once I had that the challenge was pretty > >>>>>>>> trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, > >>>>>>>> much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each > >>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each > >>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl > >>>>>>>> also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked). > >>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting > >>>>>>>> challenge and thought it was about special search results per OS. > >>>>>>>> Weird. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no > >>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA > >>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could > >>>>>>>> not find a good method). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of > >>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of > >>>>>>>> several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not > >>>>>>>> only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me to do > >>>>>>>> quick searches on ingredients and the like... something Owl was > >>>>>>>> never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and Peter > >>>>>>>> Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation > >>>>>>>> and include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. > >>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current > >>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl > >>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a > >>>>>>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid > >>>>>>>> manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated > >>>>>>>> my solution -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for > >>>>>>>> more variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully > >>>>>>>> automated -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background: > >>>>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: > >>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) > >>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I > >>>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can > >>>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed > >>>>>>>> the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. > >>>>>>>> This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how > >>>>>>>> Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity over > >>>>>>>> SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly > >>>>>>>> overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be > >>>>>>>> spreadsheets). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you > >>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that. > >>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during > >>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months. > >>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a > >>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of > >>>>>>> tasks. Ever. > >>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of > >>>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you > >>>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily > >>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved > >>>>> productivity and error-reduction. > >>>>> > >>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader... > >>>> > >>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said: > >>>> > >>>> ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you > >>>> again > >>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."" > >>>> > >>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux not > >>>> working like a Mac is a bug" > >>>> > >>>> Bizzarro. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as > >>> he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact. > >> > >> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that > >> RonB made the statement he attributed to you. > >> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written. > >> Are you retarded? > >> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps? > >> Maybe you are just a troll? > >> Either way you have my sympathies. > > > > Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said. > > Lying imbecile from Prescott AZ would be more to the point. > Not to mention that Snit Michael Glasser squanders the little income of his > wife in order to troll usenet 24/7. Most of it for adult diapers to stay > near the computer. To hell with his children. Their needs are not any of his > concerns Both of those guys get their kicks out of drawing out annoyed replies to their attacks, which is the very definition of a troll. Snit (a real advocate) can create a virtual machine. Makes Klaus Schadenfreude cry because he can not. What do you get out of lying, Klaus Schadenfreude? I think the point is far from just to get them to listen to him. The point is likely to piss me off for flooding outside groups he knows I frequent. If Klaus Schadenfreude calls getting shoved into kill filters left and right for years on end by numerous people effective 'trolling', then fine... he is a splendid troll. I can't personally agree with that definition, I use another term. I call him an utter birdbrain. -- E-commerce Simplified http://tinyurl.com/proof-about-ebot https://youtu.be/5OfWsoPAg7o https://youtu.be/Z5wo5aE7MUk Jonas Eklundh
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| From | William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 18:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fvdnshF8v33U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466120 |
On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:39:37 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > SilverSlimer wrote: > >> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote: >>> >>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called crap >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there's been so much garbage code written in it... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it on local machine ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at >>>>>>>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they >>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve* >>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve >>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past >>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have >>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux >>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online >>>>>>>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now >>>>>>>>> I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. >>>>>>>>> Just curious to see how you people would generally do it and how >>>>>>>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might: >>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area >>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else: >>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but >>>>>>>>> picked these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly >>>>>>>>> before coming up with the task. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing >>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do >>>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, >>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active >>>>>>>>> link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the >>>>>>>>> exact same, >>>>>>>>> of course): >>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, >>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color >>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here: >>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's >>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing >>>>>>>>> system. And still failed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the >>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go >>>>>>>>> fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers >>>>>>>>> of sound. My end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection >>>>>>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. >>>>>>>>> Also have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and >>>>>>>>> end the connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few >>>>>>>>> took it on, but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN >>>>>>>>> services, so makes sense why others have not done it! I did end up >>>>>>>>> with a VPN service and once I had that the challenge was pretty >>>>>>>>> trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, >>>>>>>>> much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each >>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each >>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl >>>>>>>>> also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked). >>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting >>>>>>>>> challenge and thought it was about special search results per OS. >>>>>>>>> Weird. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no >>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA >>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could >>>>>>>>> not find a good method). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of >>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of >>>>>>>>> several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not >>>>>>>>> only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me to do >>>>>>>>> quick searches on ingredients and the like... something Owl was >>>>>>>>> never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and Peter >>>>>>>>> Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation >>>>>>>>> and include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. >>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current >>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl >>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a >>>>>>>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid >>>>>>>>> manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated >>>>>>>>> my solution -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for >>>>>>>>> more variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully >>>>>>>>> automated -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background: >>>>>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) >>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I >>>>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can >>>>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed >>>>>>>>> the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. >>>>>>>>> This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how >>>>>>>>> Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity over >>>>>>>>> SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly >>>>>>>>> overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be >>>>>>>>> spreadsheets). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you >>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that. >>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during >>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months. >>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a >>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of >>>>>>>> tasks. Ever. >>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of >>>>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you >>>>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily >>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved >>>>>> productivity and error-reduction. >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader... >>>>> >>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said: >>>>> >>>>> ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you >>>>> again >>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."" >>>>> >>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux not >>>>> working like a Mac is a bug" >>>>> >>>>> Bizzarro. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as >>>> he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact. >>> >>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that >>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you. >>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written. >>> Are you retarded? >>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps? >>> Maybe you are just a troll? >>> Either way you have my sympathies. >> >> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said. > > Lying imbecile from Prescott AZ would be more to the point. > Not to mention that Snit Michael Glasser squanders the little income of his > wife in order to troll usenet 24/7. Most of it for adult diapers to stay > near the computer. To hell with his children. Their needs are not any of his > concerns The retard should be spending his money on driving lessons because a quick google of cola shows he spends an awful lot of time in traffic court for various automobile traffic infractions. I won't re-post here because I have no idea if it's accurate information or someone with a grudge is making up stuff to post. I think he is retarded. If he has kids, they are probably retarded as well.
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 15:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <07cc14a6-720e-4f4d-93b4-0dae5c0eaaa7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466131 |
On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 3:26:28 PM UTC-7, William Barnes wrote: > On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:39:37 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > > > SilverSlimer wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > >> > >>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote: > >>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called crap > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there's been so much garbage code written in it... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it on local machine ;) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at > >>>>>>>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they > >>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve* > >>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve > >>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? > >>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past > >>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have > >>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux > >>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online > >>>>>>>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now > >>>>>>>>> I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. > >>>>>>>>> Just curious to see how you people would generally do it and how > >>>>>>>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might: > >>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post > >>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area > >>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else: > >>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but > >>>>>>>>> picked these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly > >>>>>>>>> before coming up with the task. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing > >>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do > >>>>>>>>> here: > >>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, > >>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active > >>>>>>>>> link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the > >>>>>>>>> exact same, > >>>>>>>>> of course): > >>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, > >>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color > >>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here: > >>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's > >>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing > >>>>>>>>> system. And still failed. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the > >>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go > >>>>>>>>> fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers > >>>>>>>>> of sound. My end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection > >>>>>>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. > >>>>>>>>> Also have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and > >>>>>>>>> end the connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few > >>>>>>>>> took it on, but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN > >>>>>>>>> services, so makes sense why others have not done it! I did end up > >>>>>>>>> with a VPN service and once I had that the challenge was pretty > >>>>>>>>> trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, > >>>>>>>>> much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each > >>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each > >>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl > >>>>>>>>> also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked). > >>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting > >>>>>>>>> challenge and thought it was about special search results per OS. > >>>>>>>>> Weird. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no > >>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA > >>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could > >>>>>>>>> not find a good method). > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of > >>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of > >>>>>>>>> several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not > >>>>>>>>> only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me to do > >>>>>>>>> quick searches on ingredients and the like... something Owl was > >>>>>>>>> never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and Peter > >>>>>>>>> Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation > >>>>>>>>> and include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. > >>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current > >>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl > >>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a > >>>>>>>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid > >>>>>>>>> manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated > >>>>>>>>> my solution -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for > >>>>>>>>> more variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully > >>>>>>>>> automated -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background: > >>>>>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: > >>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) > >>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I > >>>>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can > >>>>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed > >>>>>>>>> the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. > >>>>>>>>> This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how > >>>>>>>>> Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity over > >>>>>>>>> SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly > >>>>>>>>> overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be > >>>>>>>>> spreadsheets). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you > >>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that. > >>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during > >>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months. > >>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a > >>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of > >>>>>>>> tasks. Ever. > >>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of > >>>>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you > >>>>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily > >>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved > >>>>>> productivity and error-reduction. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader... > >>>>> > >>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said: > >>>>> > >>>>> ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you > >>>>> again > >>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."" > >>>>> > >>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux not > >>>>> working like a Mac is a bug" > >>>>> > >>>>> Bizzarro. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as > >>>> he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact. > >>> > >>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that > >>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you. > >>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written. > >>> Are you retarded? > >>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps? > >>> Maybe you are just a troll? > >>> Either way you have my sympathies. > >> > >> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said. > > > > Lying imbecile from Prescott AZ would be more to the point. > > Not to mention that Snit Michael Glasser squanders the little income of his > > wife in order to troll usenet 24/7. Most of it for adult diapers to stay > > near the computer. To hell with his children. Their needs are not any of his > > concerns > > The retard should be spending his money on driving lessons because a quick > google of cola shows he spends an awful lot of time in traffic court for > various automobile traffic infractions. I won't re-post here because I have > no idea if it's accurate information or someone with a grudge is making up > stuff to post. > I think he is retarded. > If he has kids, they are probably retarded as well. Melzzzz doesn't know if there is a encumbered open source that promotes PEE. Melzzzz loves that Klaus Schadenfreude is on the other end. Imagine if Melzzzz walked up to a cow and delivered the punch line. It wouldn't be amusing. Regardless of my strong views about Debian, I continue to use it for those who've had misadventures with OS X. Melzzzz pretends that he uses Linux, while you know he never saw it on a modern device and actually experienced it. Oh goodness, that is just tons of rubbish. How is synaptic connections tied to a random neuron generator in any way going to lead to improved newsgroup dialog? It was Melzzzz who flooded Klaus Schadenfreude's site dozens of times and denied it. Things change. Maybe the ubiquity of a newspaper is getting to be old fashion. -- "You'll notice how quickly he loses interest when everything is about him. He clearly wants the attention" Steven Petruzzellis, making the dumbest comment ever uttered.
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 23:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <0JikD.16107$rK2.12070@fx28.iad> |
| In reply to | #466120 |
On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:39:37 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > SilverSlimer wrote: > >> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote: >>> >>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap because there's been so much garbage code written in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run it on local machine ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better >>>>>>>>>>>>> at their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they >>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve* >>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve >>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past >>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have >>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux >>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, >>>>>>>>> online map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with >>>>>>>>> annotations. Now I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, >>>>>>>>> annotate, email. Just curious to see how you people would >>>>>>>>> generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A >>>>>>>>> couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area >>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something >>>>>>>>> else: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options >>>>>>>>> but picked these because they fit the real-world example I did >>>>>>>>> shortly before coming up with the task. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing >>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do >>>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, >>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active >>>>>>>>> link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look >>>>>>>>> the exact same, >>>>>>>>> of course): >>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, >>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color >>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here: >>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's >>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing >>>>>>>>> system. And still failed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the >>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a >>>>>>>>> come-and-go fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add >>>>>>>>> multiple layers of sound. My end result here: >>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the >>>>>>>>> connection terminates the applications using that connection >>>>>>>>> also terminate. Also have the script detect apps not wanted to >>>>>>>>> go over the VPN and end the connection when appropriate. >>>>>>>>> Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but Marek says he pays >>>>>>>>> about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why others >>>>>>>>> have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I had >>>>>>>>> that the challenge was pretty trivial: >>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much >>>>>>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each >>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each >>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl >>>>>>>>> also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it >>>>>>>>> worked). >>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / >>>>>>>>> scripting challenge and thought it was about special search >>>>>>>>> results per OS. Weird. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no >>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA >>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they >>>>>>>>> could not find a good method). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of >>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one >>>>>>>>> of several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine >>>>>>>>> not only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me >>>>>>>>> to do quick searches on ingredients and the like... something >>>>>>>>> Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and >>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder >>>>>>>>> creation and include some questions. Owl's solution: >>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/BjHo>. >>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current >>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl >>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects >>>>>>>>> a launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid >>>>>>>>> manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I >>>>>>>>> automated my solution -- can use exact colors from images or >>>>>>>>> approximate for more variability (and sets text color based on >>>>>>>>> brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation of 50 with >>>>>>>>> changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) >>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I >>>>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can >>>>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed >>>>>>>>> the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. >>>>>>>>> This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given >>>>>>>>> how Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity >>>>>>>>> over SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they >>>>>>>>> hardly overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be >>>>>>>>> spreadsheets). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you >>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that. >>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during >>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months. >>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a >>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of >>>>>>>> tasks. Ever. >>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of >>>>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you >>>>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily >>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved >>>>>> productivity and error-reduction. >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader... >>>>> >>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said: >>>>> >>>>> ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind >>>>> you again >>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."" >>>>> >>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux >>>>> not working like a Mac is a bug" >>>>> >>>>> Bizzarro. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as >>>> he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact. >>> >>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that >>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you. >>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written. >>> Are you retarded? >>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps? >>> Maybe you are just a troll? >>> Either way you have my sympathies. >> >> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said. > > Lying imbecile from Prescott AZ would be more to the point. > Not to mention that Snit Michael Glasser squanders the little income of > his wife in order to troll usenet 24/7. Most of it for adult diapers to > stay near the computer. To hell with his children. Their needs are not > any of his concerns ROFL. Another comedic masterpiece from Peter. -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Catholic
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-06 21:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fveecoFd20iU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466138 |
On 9/6/18 4:26 PM, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:39:37 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > >> SilverSlimer wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap because there's been so much garbage code written in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run it on local machine ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve >>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past >>>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have >>>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux >>>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, >>>>>>>>>> online map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with >>>>>>>>>> annotations. Now I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, >>>>>>>>>> annotate, email. Just curious to see how you people would >>>>>>>>>> generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A >>>>>>>>>> couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >>>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area >>>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something >>>>>>>>>> else: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options >>>>>>>>>> but picked these because they fit the real-world example I did >>>>>>>>>> shortly before coming up with the task. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing >>>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do >>>>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, >>>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active >>>>>>>>>> link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look >>>>>>>>>> the exact same, >>>>>>>>>> of course): >>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, >>>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color >>>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here: >>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's >>>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing >>>>>>>>>> system. And still failed. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the >>>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a >>>>>>>>>> come-and-go fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add >>>>>>>>>> multiple layers of sound. My end result here: >>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the >>>>>>>>>> connection terminates the applications using that connection >>>>>>>>>> also terminate. Also have the script detect apps not wanted to >>>>>>>>>> go over the VPN and end the connection when appropriate. >>>>>>>>>> Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but Marek says he pays >>>>>>>>>> about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why others >>>>>>>>>> have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I had >>>>>>>>>> that the challenge was pretty trivial: >>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much >>>>>>>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each >>>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each >>>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl >>>>>>>>>> also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it >>>>>>>>>> worked). >>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / >>>>>>>>>> scripting challenge and thought it was about special search >>>>>>>>>> results per OS. Weird. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no >>>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA >>>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they >>>>>>>>>> could not find a good method). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of >>>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one >>>>>>>>>> of several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine >>>>>>>>>> not only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me >>>>>>>>>> to do quick searches on ingredients and the like... something >>>>>>>>>> Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and >>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder >>>>>>>>>> creation and include some questions. Owl's solution: >>>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/BjHo>. >>>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current >>>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl >>>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects >>>>>>>>>> a launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid >>>>>>>>>> manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I >>>>>>>>>> automated my solution -- can use exact colors from images or >>>>>>>>>> approximate for more variability (and sets text color based on >>>>>>>>>> brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation of 50 with >>>>>>>>>> changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >>>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) >>>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I >>>>>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can >>>>>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed >>>>>>>>>> the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. >>>>>>>>>> This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given >>>>>>>>>> how Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity >>>>>>>>>> over SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they >>>>>>>>>> hardly overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be >>>>>>>>>> spreadsheets). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you >>>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that. >>>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during >>>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months. >>>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a >>>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of >>>>>>>>> tasks. Ever. >>>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of >>>>>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you >>>>>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily >>>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved >>>>>>> productivity and error-reduction. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader... >>>>>> >>>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said: >>>>>> >>>>>> ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind >>>>>> you again >>>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."" >>>>>> >>>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux >>>>>> not working like a Mac is a bug" >>>>>> >>>>>> Bizzarro. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as >>>>> he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact. >>>> >>>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that >>>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you. >>>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written. >>>> Are you retarded? >>>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps? >>>> Maybe you are just a troll? >>>> Either way you have my sympathies. >>> >>> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said. >> >> Lying imbecile from Prescott AZ would be more to the point. >> Not to mention that Snit Michael Glasser squanders the little income of >> his wife in order to troll usenet 24/7. Most of it for adult diapers to >> stay near the computer. To hell with his children. Their needs are not >> any of his concerns > > ROFL. Another comedic masterpiece from Peter. > Empty, useless insults where he attacks those who talk of tech. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 23:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmsd8d$m7s$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #466120 |
On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:39:37 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > SilverSlimer wrote: > >> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote: >>> >>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap because there's been so much garbage code written in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run it on local machine ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better >>>>>>>>>>>>> at their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they >>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve* >>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve >>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past >>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have >>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux >>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, >>>>>>>>> online map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with >>>>>>>>> annotations. Now I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, >>>>>>>>> annotate, email. Just curious to see how you people would >>>>>>>>> generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A >>>>>>>>> couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area >>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something >>>>>>>>> else: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options >>>>>>>>> but picked these because they fit the real-world example I did >>>>>>>>> shortly before coming up with the task. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing >>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do >>>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, >>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active >>>>>>>>> link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look >>>>>>>>> the exact same, >>>>>>>>> of course): >>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, >>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color >>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here: >>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's >>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing >>>>>>>>> system. And still failed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the >>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a >>>>>>>>> come-and-go fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add >>>>>>>>> multiple layers of sound. My end result here: >>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the >>>>>>>>> connection terminates the applications using that connection >>>>>>>>> also terminate. Also have the script detect apps not wanted to >>>>>>>>> go over the VPN and end the connection when appropriate. >>>>>>>>> Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but Marek says he pays >>>>>>>>> about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why others >>>>>>>>> have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I had >>>>>>>>> that the challenge was pretty trivial: >>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much >>>>>>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each >>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each >>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl >>>>>>>>> also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it >>>>>>>>> worked). >>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / >>>>>>>>> scripting challenge and thought it was about special search >>>>>>>>> results per OS. Weird. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no >>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA >>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they >>>>>>>>> could not find a good method). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of >>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one >>>>>>>>> of several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine >>>>>>>>> not only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me >>>>>>>>> to do quick searches on ingredients and the like... something >>>>>>>>> Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and >>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder >>>>>>>>> creation and include some questions. Owl's solution: >>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/BjHo>. >>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current >>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl >>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects >>>>>>>>> a launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid >>>>>>>>> manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I >>>>>>>>> automated my solution -- can use exact colors from images or >>>>>>>>> approximate for more variability (and sets text color based on >>>>>>>>> brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation of 50 with >>>>>>>>> changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) >>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I >>>>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can >>>>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed >>>>>>>>> the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. >>>>>>>>> This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given >>>>>>>>> how Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity >>>>>>>>> over SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they >>>>>>>>> hardly overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be >>>>>>>>> spreadsheets). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you >>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that. >>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during >>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months. >>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a >>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of >>>>>>>> tasks. Ever. >>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of >>>>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you >>>>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily >>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved >>>>>> productivity and error-reduction. >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader... >>>>> >>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said: >>>>> >>>>> ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind >>>>> you again >>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."" >>>>> >>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux >>>>> not working like a Mac is a bug" >>>>> >>>>> Bizzarro. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as >>>> he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact. >>> >>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that >>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you. >>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written. >>> Are you retarded? >>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps? >>> Maybe you are just a troll? >>> Either way you have my sympathies. >> >> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said. > > Lying imbecile from Prescott AZ would be more to the point. > Not to mention that Snit Michael Glasser squanders the little income of > his wife in order to troll usenet 24/7. Most of it for adult diapers to > stay near the computer. To hell with his children. Their needs are not > any of his concerns So the troll is still unemployed? He should be put to work cleaning toilets. Even he couldn't fuck that up.
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| From | William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 19:39 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fvds61F9o19U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466139 |
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 23:29:17 -0000 (UTC), William Poaster wrote: > On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:39:37 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > >> SilverSlimer wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap because there's been so much garbage code written in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run it on local machine ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve >>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past >>>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have >>>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux >>>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, >>>>>>>>>> online map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with >>>>>>>>>> annotations. Now I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, >>>>>>>>>> annotate, email. Just curious to see how you people would >>>>>>>>>> generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A >>>>>>>>>> couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >>>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area >>>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something >>>>>>>>>> else: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options >>>>>>>>>> but picked these because they fit the real-world example I did >>>>>>>>>> shortly before coming up with the task. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing >>>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do >>>>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, >>>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active >>>>>>>>>> link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look >>>>>>>>>> the exact same, >>>>>>>>>> of course): >>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, >>>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color >>>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here: >>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's >>>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing >>>>>>>>>> system. And still failed. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the >>>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a >>>>>>>>>> come-and-go fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add >>>>>>>>>> multiple layers of sound. My end result here: >>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the >>>>>>>>>> connection terminates the applications using that connection >>>>>>>>>> also terminate. Also have the script detect apps not wanted to >>>>>>>>>> go over the VPN and end the connection when appropriate. >>>>>>>>>> Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but Marek says he pays >>>>>>>>>> about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why others >>>>>>>>>> have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I had >>>>>>>>>> that the challenge was pretty trivial: >>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much >>>>>>>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each >>>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each >>>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl >>>>>>>>>> also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it >>>>>>>>>> worked). >>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / >>>>>>>>>> scripting challenge and thought it was about special search >>>>>>>>>> results per OS. Weird. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no >>>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA >>>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they >>>>>>>>>> could not find a good method). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of >>>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one >>>>>>>>>> of several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine >>>>>>>>>> not only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me >>>>>>>>>> to do quick searches on ingredients and the like... something >>>>>>>>>> Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and >>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder >>>>>>>>>> creation and include some questions. Owl's solution: >>>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/BjHo>. >>>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current >>>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl >>>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects >>>>>>>>>> a launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid >>>>>>>>>> manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I >>>>>>>>>> automated my solution -- can use exact colors from images or >>>>>>>>>> approximate for more variability (and sets text color based on >>>>>>>>>> brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation of 50 with >>>>>>>>>> changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >>>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) >>>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I >>>>>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can >>>>>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed >>>>>>>>>> the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. >>>>>>>>>> This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given >>>>>>>>>> how Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity >>>>>>>>>> over SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they >>>>>>>>>> hardly overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be >>>>>>>>>> spreadsheets). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you >>>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that. >>>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during >>>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months. >>>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a >>>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of >>>>>>>>> tasks. Ever. >>>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of >>>>>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you >>>>>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily >>>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved >>>>>>> productivity and error-reduction. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader... >>>>>> >>>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said: >>>>>> >>>>>> ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind >>>>>> you again >>>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."" >>>>>> >>>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux >>>>>> not working like a Mac is a bug" >>>>>> >>>>>> Bizzarro. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as >>>>> he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact. >>>> >>>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that >>>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you. >>>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written. >>>> Are you retarded? >>>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps? >>>> Maybe you are just a troll? >>>> Either way you have my sympathies. >>> >>> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said. >> >> Lying imbecile from Prescott AZ would be more to the point. >> Not to mention that Snit Michael Glasser squanders the little income of >> his wife in order to troll usenet 24/7. Most of it for adult diapers to >> stay near the computer. To hell with his children. Their needs are not >> any of his concerns > > So the troll is still unemployed? > He should be put to work cleaning toilets. Even he couldn't fuck that up. Don't count on it. He appears to be mentally retarded so don't expect too much from him.
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| From | William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 23:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmse9l$m7s$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #466140 |
On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 19:39:43 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 23:29:17 -0000 (UTC), William Poaster wrote: > >> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:39:37 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >> >>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap because there's been so much garbage code written >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in it... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browser. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run it on local machine ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better at their jobs than everyone else on the planet, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they *deserve* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve >>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the >>>>>>>>>>>> past but now provides a pretty stellar experience. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have >>>>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux >>>>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, >>>>>>>>>>> online map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with >>>>>>>>>>> annotations. Now I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, >>>>>>>>>>> annotate, email. Just curious to see how you people would >>>>>>>>>>> generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A >>>>>>>>>>> couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >>>>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area >>>>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something >>>>>>>>>>> else: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other >>>>>>>>>>> options but picked these because they fit the real-world >>>>>>>>>>> example I did shortly before coming up with the task. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines >>>>>>>>>>> showing borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was >>>>>>>>>>> able to do here: >>>>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all >>>>>>>>>>> links, >>>>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a >>>>>>>>>>> active link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have >>>>>>>>>>> to look the exact same, >>>>>>>>>>> of course): >>>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman- archive.pdf>. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, >>>>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color >>>>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here: >>>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's >>>>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing >>>>>>>>>>> system. And still failed. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the >>>>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a >>>>>>>>>>> come-and-go fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add >>>>>>>>>>> multiple layers of sound. My end result here: >>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the >>>>>>>>>>> connection terminates the applications using that connection >>>>>>>>>>> also terminate. Also have the script detect apps not wanted to >>>>>>>>>>> go over the VPN and end the connection when appropriate. >>>>>>>>>>> Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but Marek says he pays >>>>>>>>>>> about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why others >>>>>>>>>>> have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I >>>>>>>>>>> had that the challenge was pretty trivial: >>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much >>>>>>>>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each >>>>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each >>>>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. >>>>>>>>>>> Owl also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it >>>>>>>>>>> worked). >>>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / >>>>>>>>>>> scripting challenge and thought it was about special search >>>>>>>>>>> results per OS. Weird. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and >>>>>>>>>>> no scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in >>>>>>>>>>> COLA provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts >>>>>>>>>>> (they could not find a good method). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of >>>>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is >>>>>>>>>>> one of several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. >>>>>>>>>>> Mine not only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and >>>>>>>>>>> allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients and the like... >>>>>>>>>>> something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so well >>>>>>>>>>> that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder >>>>>>>>>>> creation and include some questions. Owl's solution: >>>>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/BjHo>. >>>>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the >>>>>>>>>>> current background image, but which are not the same as each >>>>>>>>>>> other. Owl created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and >>>>>>>>>>> then selects a launcher (color) manually with the idea this >>>>>>>>>>> let him avoid manually selecting colors (?!): >>>>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution -- can use >>>>>>>>>>> exact colors from images or approximate for more variability >>>>>>>>>>> (and sets text color based on brightness), fully automated -- >>>>>>>>>>> video shows creation of 50 with changing background: >>>>>>>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >>>>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and >>>>>>>>>>> elegant) Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss >>>>>>>>>>> of data!) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). >>>>>>>>>>> I challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he >>>>>>>>>>> can show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I >>>>>>>>>>> showed the same thing, but in Numbers: >>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a sucker's >>>>>>>>>>> bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing >>>>>>>>>>> word games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able >>>>>>>>>>> to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in >>>>>>>>>>> their capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you >>>>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that. >>>>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during >>>>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months. >>>>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had >>>>>>>>>> a situation where I have had to perform even one of your list >>>>>>>>>> of tasks. Ever. >>>>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list >>>>>>>>>> of tasks that your Mac would trip over as well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind >>>>>>>>> you again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a >>>>>>>>> "bug." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily >>>>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved >>>>>>>> productivity and error-reduction. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind >>>>>>> you again >>>>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux >>>>>>> not working like a Mac is a bug" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bizzarro. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even >>>>>> as he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact. >>>>> >>>>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply >>>>> that RonB made the statement he attributed to you. >>>>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written. >>>>> Are you retarded? >>>>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps? >>>>> Maybe you are just a troll? >>>>> Either way you have my sympathies. >>>> >>>> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said. >>> >>> Lying imbecile from Prescott AZ would be more to the point. >>> Not to mention that Snit Michael Glasser squanders the little income >>> of his wife in order to troll usenet 24/7. Most of it for adult >>> diapers to stay near the computer. To hell with his children. Their >>> needs are not any of his concerns >> >> So the troll is still unemployed? >> He should be put to work cleaning toilets. Even he couldn't fuck that >> up. > > Don't count on it. He appears to be mentally retarded so don't expect > too much from him. I think he can handle it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfDoGQ6urE0
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| From | Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 19:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1eo0ctgrx65wy.1t582gpkurndk$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #466142 |
On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 23:47:01 -0000 (UTC), William Poaster wrote: > On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 19:39:43 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > >> On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 23:29:17 -0000 (UTC), William Poaster wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:39:37 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>> >>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap because there's been so much garbage code written >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in it... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browser. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run it on local machine ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better at their jobs than everyone else on the planet, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they *deserve* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> past but now provides a pretty stellar experience. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have >>>>>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux >>>>>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, >>>>>>>>>>>> online map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with >>>>>>>>>>>> annotations. Now I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, >>>>>>>>>>>> annotate, email. Just curious to see how you people would >>>>>>>>>>>> generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A >>>>>>>>>>>> couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >>>>>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area >>>>>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something >>>>>>>>>>>> else: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other >>>>>>>>>>>> options but picked these because they fit the real-world >>>>>>>>>>>> example I did shortly before coming up with the task. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines >>>>>>>>>>>> showing borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was >>>>>>>>>>>> able to do here: >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all >>>>>>>>>>>> links, >>>>>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a >>>>>>>>>>>> active link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have >>>>>>>>>>>> to look the exact same, >>>>>>>>>>>> of course): >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman- > archive.pdf>. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, >>>>>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color >>>>>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here: >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's >>>>>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing >>>>>>>>>>>> system. And still failed. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the >>>>>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a >>>>>>>>>>>> come-and-go fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add >>>>>>>>>>>> multiple layers of sound. My end result here: >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the >>>>>>>>>>>> connection terminates the applications using that connection >>>>>>>>>>>> also terminate. Also have the script detect apps not wanted to >>>>>>>>>>>> go over the VPN and end the connection when appropriate. >>>>>>>>>>>> Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but Marek says he pays >>>>>>>>>>>> about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why others >>>>>>>>>>>> have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I >>>>>>>>>>>> had that the challenge was pretty trivial: >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much >>>>>>>>>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each >>>>>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each >>>>>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. >>>>>>>>>>>> Owl also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it >>>>>>>>>>>> worked). >>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / >>>>>>>>>>>> scripting challenge and thought it was about special search >>>>>>>>>>>> results per OS. Weird. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and >>>>>>>>>>>> no scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in >>>>>>>>>>>> COLA provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts >>>>>>>>>>>> (they could not find a good method). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of >>>>>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is >>>>>>>>>>>> one of several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. >>>>>>>>>>>> Mine not only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and >>>>>>>>>>>> allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients and the like... >>>>>>>>>>>> something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so well >>>>>>>>>>>> that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder >>>>>>>>>>>> creation and include some questions. Owl's solution: >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/BjHo>. >>>>>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the >>>>>>>>>>>> current background image, but which are not the same as each >>>>>>>>>>>> other. Owl created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and >>>>>>>>>>>> then selects a launcher (color) manually with the idea this >>>>>>>>>>>> let him avoid manually selecting colors (?!): >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution -- can use >>>>>>>>>>>> exact colors from images or approximate for more variability >>>>>>>>>>>> (and sets text color based on brightness), fully automated -- >>>>>>>>>>>> video shows creation of 50 with changing background: >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >>>>>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and >>>>>>>>>>>> elegant) Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss >>>>>>>>>>>> of data!) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). >>>>>>>>>>>> I challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he >>>>>>>>>>>> can show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I >>>>>>>>>>>> showed the same thing, but in Numbers: >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a sucker's >>>>>>>>>>>> bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing >>>>>>>>>>>> word games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able >>>>>>>>>>>> to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in >>>>>>>>>>>> their capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you >>>>>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that. >>>>>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during >>>>>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months. >>>>>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had >>>>>>>>>>> a situation where I have had to perform even one of your list >>>>>>>>>>> of tasks. Ever. >>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list >>>>>>>>>>> of tasks that your Mac would trip over as well. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind >>>>>>>>>> you again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a >>>>>>>>>> "bug." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily >>>>>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved >>>>>>>>> productivity and error-reduction. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind >>>>>>>> you again >>>>>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux >>>>>>>> not working like a Mac is a bug" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bizzarro. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even >>>>>>> as he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact. >>>>>> >>>>>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply >>>>>> that RonB made the statement he attributed to you. >>>>>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written. >>>>>> Are you retarded? >>>>>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps? >>>>>> Maybe you are just a troll? >>>>>> Either way you have my sympathies. >>>>> >>>>> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said. >>>> >>>> Lying imbecile from Prescott AZ would be more to the point. >>>> Not to mention that Snit Michael Glasser squanders the little income >>>> of his wife in order to troll usenet 24/7. Most of it for adult >>>> diapers to stay near the computer. To hell with his children. Their >>>> needs are not any of his concerns >>> >>> So the troll is still unemployed? >>> He should be put to work cleaning toilets. Even he couldn't fuck that >>> up. >> >> Don't count on it. He appears to be mentally retarded so don't expect >> too much from him. > > I think he can handle it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfDoGQ6urE0 Unlikely. His anxiety attacks will prevent him from PEE so he won't be productive, efficient, and error free. snit is a parasite who lives off the American taxpayer.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-06 21:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fveefsFd20iU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466145 |
On 9/6/18 4:50 PM, Lenny Dignman wrote: > On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 23:47:01 -0000 (UTC), William Poaster wrote: > >> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 19:39:43 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 23:29:17 -0000 (UTC), William Poaster wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:39:37 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>> >>>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap because there's been so much garbage code written >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in it... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browser. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run it on local machine ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better at their jobs than everyone else on the planet, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they *deserve* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> past but now provides a pretty stellar experience. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have >>>>>>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, >>>>>>>>>>>>> online map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with >>>>>>>>>>>>> annotations. Now I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, >>>>>>>>>>>>> annotate, email. Just curious to see how you people would >>>>>>>>>>>>> generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A >>>>>>>>>>>>> couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >>>>>>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area >>>>>>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something >>>>>>>>>>>>> else: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other >>>>>>>>>>>>> options but picked these because they fit the real-world >>>>>>>>>>>>> example I did shortly before coming up with the task. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines >>>>>>>>>>>>> showing borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was >>>>>>>>>>>>> able to do here: >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all >>>>>>>>>>>>> links, >>>>>>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a >>>>>>>>>>>>> active link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have >>>>>>>>>>>>> to look the exact same, >>>>>>>>>>>>> of course): >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman- >> archive.pdf>. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, >>>>>>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color >>>>>>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here: >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's >>>>>>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing >>>>>>>>>>>>> system. And still failed. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the >>>>>>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a >>>>>>>>>>>>> come-and-go fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add >>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple layers of sound. My end result here: >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the >>>>>>>>>>>>> connection terminates the applications using that connection >>>>>>>>>>>>> also terminate. Also have the script detect apps not wanted to >>>>>>>>>>>>> go over the VPN and end the connection when appropriate. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but Marek says he pays >>>>>>>>>>>>> about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why others >>>>>>>>>>>>> have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I >>>>>>>>>>>>> had that the challenge was pretty trivial: >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much >>>>>>>>>>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each >>>>>>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each >>>>>>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Owl also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it >>>>>>>>>>>>> worked). >>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / >>>>>>>>>>>>> scripting challenge and thought it was about special search >>>>>>>>>>>>> results per OS. Weird. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and >>>>>>>>>>>>> no scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in >>>>>>>>>>>>> COLA provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts >>>>>>>>>>>>> (they could not find a good method). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of >>>>>>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is >>>>>>>>>>>>> one of several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mine not only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and >>>>>>>>>>>>> allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients and the like... >>>>>>>>>>>>> something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so well >>>>>>>>>>>>> that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder >>>>>>>>>>>>> creation and include some questions. Owl's solution: >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/BjHo>. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the >>>>>>>>>>>>> current background image, but which are not the same as each >>>>>>>>>>>>> other. Owl created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and >>>>>>>>>>>>> then selects a launcher (color) manually with the idea this >>>>>>>>>>>>> let him avoid manually selecting colors (?!): >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution -- can use >>>>>>>>>>>>> exact colors from images or approximate for more variability >>>>>>>>>>>>> (and sets text color based on brightness), fully automated -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> video shows creation of 50 with changing background: >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and >>>>>>>>>>>>> elegant) Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss >>>>>>>>>>>>> of data!) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). >>>>>>>>>>>>> I challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he >>>>>>>>>>>>> can show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> showed the same thing, but in Numbers: >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a sucker's >>>>>>>>>>>>> bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing >>>>>>>>>>>>> word games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able >>>>>>>>>>>>> to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in >>>>>>>>>>>>> their capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you >>>>>>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that. >>>>>>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during >>>>>>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months. >>>>>>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had >>>>>>>>>>>> a situation where I have had to perform even one of your list >>>>>>>>>>>> of tasks. Ever. >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list >>>>>>>>>>>> of tasks that your Mac would trip over as well. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind >>>>>>>>>>> you again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a >>>>>>>>>>> "bug." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily >>>>>>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved >>>>>>>>>> productivity and error-reduction. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind >>>>>>>>> you again >>>>>>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux >>>>>>>>> not working like a Mac is a bug" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bizzarro. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even >>>>>>>> as he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply >>>>>>> that RonB made the statement he attributed to you. >>>>>>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written. >>>>>>> Are you retarded? >>>>>>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps? >>>>>>> Maybe you are just a troll? >>>>>>> Either way you have my sympathies. >>>>>> >>>>>> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said. >>>>> >>>>> Lying imbecile from Prescott AZ would be more to the point. >>>>> Not to mention that Snit Michael Glasser squanders the little income >>>>> of his wife in order to troll usenet 24/7. Most of it for adult >>>>> diapers to stay near the computer. To hell with his children. Their >>>>> needs are not any of his concerns >>>> >>>> So the troll is still unemployed? >>>> He should be put to work cleaning toilets. Even he couldn't fuck that >>>> up. >>> >>> Don't count on it. He appears to be mentally retarded so don't expect >>> too much from him. >> >> I think he can handle it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfDoGQ6urE0 > > Unlikely. > His anxiety attacks will prevent him from PEE so he won't be productive, > efficient, and error free. > snit is a parasite who lives off the American taxpayer. > He Carroll! -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-06 17:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f0a74ba8-d42a-446d-94c1-c6d3bb30ee00@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466142 |
On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 4:47:03 PM UTC-7, William Poaster wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 19:39:43 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 6 Sep 2018 23:29:17 -0000 (UTC), William Poaster wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:39:37 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> >>
> >>> SilverSlimer wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap because there's been so much garbage code written
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in it...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browser.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run it on local machine ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better at their jobs than everyone else on the planet,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they *deserve*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> past but now provides a pretty stellar experience.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have
> >>>>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux
> >>>>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan,
> >>>>>>>>>>> online map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with
> >>>>>>>>>>> annotations. Now I know this can be done on Linux; save, open,
> >>>>>>>>>>> annotate, email. Just curious to see how you people would
> >>>>>>>>>>> generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A
> >>>>>>>>>>> couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
> >>>>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
> >>>>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something
> >>>>>>>>>>> else: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other
> >>>>>>>>>>> options but picked these because they fit the real-world
> >>>>>>>>>>> example I did shortly before coming up with the task.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines
> >>>>>>>>>>> showing borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was
> >>>>>>>>>>> able to do here:
> >>>>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all
> >>>>>>>>>>> links,
> >>>>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a
> >>>>>>>>>>> active link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have
> >>>>>>>>>>> to look the exact same,
> >>>>>>>>>>> of course):
> >>>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-
> archive.pdf>.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated,
> >>>>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color
> >>>>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here:
> >>>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's
> >>>>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing
> >>>>>>>>>>> system. And still failed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the
> >>>>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a
> >>>>>>>>>>> come-and-go fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add
> >>>>>>>>>>> multiple layers of sound. My end result here:
> >>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the
> >>>>>>>>>>> connection terminates the applications using that connection
> >>>>>>>>>>> also terminate. Also have the script detect apps not wanted to
> >>>>>>>>>>> go over the VPN and end the connection when appropriate.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but Marek says he pays
> >>>>>>>>>>> about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why others
> >>>>>>>>>>> have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I
> >>>>>>>>>>> had that the challenge was pretty trivial:
> >>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much
> >>>>>>>>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each
> >>>>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each
> >>>>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Owl also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it
> >>>>>>>>>>> worked).
> >>>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive /
> >>>>>>>>>>> scripting challenge and thought it was about special search
> >>>>>>>>>>> results per OS. Weird.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and
> >>>>>>>>>>> no scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in
> >>>>>>>>>>> COLA provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts
> >>>>>>>>>>> (they could not find a good method).
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of
> >>>>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is
> >>>>>>>>>>> one of several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Mine not only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and
> >>>>>>>>>>> allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients and the like...
> >>>>>>>>>>> something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so well
> >>>>>>>>>>> that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder
> >>>>>>>>>>> creation and include some questions. Owl's solution:
> >>>>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/BjHo>.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the
> >>>>>>>>>>> current background image, but which are not the same as each
> >>>>>>>>>>> other. Owl created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and
> >>>>>>>>>>> then selects a launcher (color) manually with the idea this
> >>>>>>>>>>> let him avoid manually selecting colors (?!):
> >>>>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution -- can use
> >>>>>>>>>>> exact colors from images or approximate for more variability
> >>>>>>>>>>> (and sets text color based on brightness), fully automated --
> >>>>>>>>>>> video shows creation of 50 with changing background:
> >>>>>>>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and
> >>>>>>>>>>> elegant) Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss
> >>>>>>>>>>> of data!)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often).
> >>>>>>>>>>> I challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he
> >>>>>>>>>>> can show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I
> >>>>>>>>>>> showed the same thing, but in Numbers:
> >>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a sucker's
> >>>>>>>>>>> bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing
> >>>>>>>>>>> word games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able
> >>>>>>>>>>> to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in
> >>>>>>>>>>> their capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets).
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you
> >>>>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that.
> >>>>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during
> >>>>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months.
> >>>>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had
> >>>>>>>>>> a situation where I have had to perform even one of your list
> >>>>>>>>>> of tasks. Ever.
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list
> >>>>>>>>>> of tasks that your Mac would trip over as well.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind
> >>>>>>>>> you again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a
> >>>>>>>>> "bug."
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily
> >>>>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved
> >>>>>>>> productivity and error-reduction.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind
> >>>>>>> you again
> >>>>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug.""
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux
> >>>>>>> not working like a Mac is a bug"
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Bizzarro.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even
> >>>>>> as he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply
> >>>>> that RonB made the statement he attributed to you.
> >>>>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written.
> >>>>> Are you retarded?
> >>>>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps?
> >>>>> Maybe you are just a troll?
> >>>>> Either way you have my sympathies.
> >>>>
> >>>> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said.
> >>>
> >>> Lying imbecile from Prescott AZ would be more to the point.
> >>> Not to mention that Snit Michael Glasser squanders the little income
> >>> of his wife in order to troll usenet 24/7. Most of it for adult
> >>> diapers to stay near the computer. To hell with his children. Their
> >>> needs are not any of his concerns
> >>
> >> So the troll is still unemployed?
> >> He should be put to work cleaning toilets. Even he couldn't fuck that
> >> up.
> >
> > Don't count on it. He appears to be mentally retarded so don't expect
> > too much from him.
>
> I think he can handle it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfDoGQ6urE0
Facts about Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll
Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll is a nearly 60 year old guy who is single, broke and has no skills. He blames Prescott Computer Guy for his loss of his wife and girlfriend. Steven is jealous of what Prescott Computer Guy has and in a narcissistic rage repeatedly works to take it away from him. For over 10 years he has failed at even this. Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll is an utter failure in life.
Of his online life Steven says
I've been booted off by past providers before because people
complain about me and all my bullshit. I don't want to lose my ISP
*again* but I still need my army of sock puppets so I continually
search usenet for whatever servers I haven't yet been booted
from.
Some examples where Steven has been booted
X10 Hosting booted Steven for inappropriate activity
http://tinyurl.com/z92qmz4
Comcast booted Steven for inappropriate activity
http://tinyurl.com/h75nh9l
FreeHostingEU booted Steven for copyright infringement http://devsite.eu.pn
AwardSpace (atwebpages.com) booted Steven for breaking terms of service
http://demsites.atwebpages.com/pokeman
Imgur took down an image for breaking terms of service http://imgur.com/yv2XppE
Had a GigaNews account which was removed for harassing Prescott Computer Guy
Stopped posting from his fretwizzen Google account since shortly after I complained. Seems he lost that too.
His wife booted Steven to the curb for cheating on her
Only site Steven Petruzzellis has pointed to that has ever been available
http://web.archive.org/web/20161019062351/http://www.oldneighborhoodrestaurant.net/
https://goo.gl/DMno6J
Made by the Go Daddy Website builder and is utter crap. Later he denied he said he was merely taking credit for someone else's work but Steven is the contact person http://tinyurl.com/hcw6dul
http://web.archive.org/web/20161202192456/http://www.reservationdiary.eu/eng/reservation/d76d1156-e9f7-43c1-b77b-b07189857820
He also bragged he was working on an update and showed it here https://vid.me/u6RK
The business still failed.
He likely went to the Go Daddy Website Builder after he failed to get WordPress installed.
https://mu.wordpress.org/forums/topic/13879
This is why Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll attacks Prescott Computer Guy.
Steven Petruzzellis was is divorced because his wife caught him screwing another woman.
Prescott Computer Guy is married and by all appearances happily so.
He never complains about his wife in COLA.
Steven Petruzzellis is living on charity of a friend in a single room.
Prescott Computer Guy does not live in a mansion or even a high end home but has a house and a yard.
Steven Petruzzellis has two kids but no respect. He repeatedly called Ryan his "little screwup" and refers to his son Steve as a "dick" and worse. He says at least one of them likely hacked his computer and is a "mentally deficient child." He mocks his possible future daughter-in-law as someone who takes too many selfies and is focused only on herself
Prescott Computer Guy has two kids (or more) and never speaks poorly of them in public.
No reason to think they are not a happy family.
Steven Petruzzellis claims to be a stay at home dad who pays thousands of dollars for day care. Steven has no job and no purpose in life. Steven has given up and now seeks a mother-figure to date.
Prescott Computer Guy has his own business doing technical work and also teaches.
Prescott Computer Guy offers a true contribution to society.
Teachers are truly under appreciated.
--
I Left My Husband & Daughter At Home And THIS happened!!
http://www.5z8.info/mercenary_w5v9dl_open.exe
http://prescottcomputerguy.com
Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-06 23:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <w1jkD.12594$SG2.8613@fx29.iad> |
| In reply to | #466139 |
On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:29:17 +0000, William Poaster wrote: > On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:39:37 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > >> SilverSlimer wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap because there's been so much garbage code written >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in it... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run it on local machine ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve >>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past >>>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have >>>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux >>>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, >>>>>>>>>> online map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with >>>>>>>>>> annotations. Now I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, >>>>>>>>>> annotate, email. Just curious to see how you people would >>>>>>>>>> generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A >>>>>>>>>> couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >>>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area >>>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something >>>>>>>>>> else: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options >>>>>>>>>> but picked these because they fit the real-world example I did >>>>>>>>>> shortly before coming up with the task. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing >>>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to >>>>>>>>>> do here: >>>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all >>>>>>>>>> links, >>>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a >>>>>>>>>> active link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have >>>>>>>>>> to look the exact same, >>>>>>>>>> of course): >>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, >>>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color >>>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here: >>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's >>>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing >>>>>>>>>> system. And still failed. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the >>>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a >>>>>>>>>> come-and-go fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add >>>>>>>>>> multiple layers of sound. My end result here: >>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the >>>>>>>>>> connection terminates the applications using that connection >>>>>>>>>> also terminate. Also have the script detect apps not wanted to >>>>>>>>>> go over the VPN and end the connection when appropriate. >>>>>>>>>> Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but Marek says he pays >>>>>>>>>> about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why others >>>>>>>>>> have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I >>>>>>>>>> had that the challenge was pretty trivial: >>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much >>>>>>>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each >>>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each >>>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. >>>>>>>>>> Owl also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it >>>>>>>>>> worked). >>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / >>>>>>>>>> scripting challenge and thought it was about special search >>>>>>>>>> results per OS. Weird. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no >>>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA >>>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they >>>>>>>>>> could not find a good method). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of >>>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one >>>>>>>>>> of several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine >>>>>>>>>> not only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me >>>>>>>>>> to do quick searches on ingredients and the like... something >>>>>>>>>> Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and >>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder >>>>>>>>>> creation and include some questions. Owl's solution: >>>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/BjHo>. >>>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current >>>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl >>>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then >>>>>>>>>> selects a launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him >>>>>>>>>> avoid manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I >>>>>>>>>> automated my solution -- can use exact colors from images or >>>>>>>>>> approximate for more variability (and sets text color based on >>>>>>>>>> brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation of 50 with >>>>>>>>>> changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >>>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) >>>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). >>>>>>>>>> I challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he >>>>>>>>>> can show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I >>>>>>>>>> showed the same thing, but in Numbers: >>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a sucker's >>>>>>>>>> bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing word >>>>>>>>>> games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able to do >>>>>>>>>> what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their >>>>>>>>>> capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you >>>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that. >>>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during >>>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months. >>>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a >>>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of >>>>>>>>> tasks. Ever. >>>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list >>>>>>>>> of tasks that your Mac would trip over as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind >>>>>>>> you again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a >>>>>>>> "bug." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily >>>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved >>>>>>> productivity and error-reduction. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader... >>>>>> >>>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said: >>>>>> >>>>>> ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind >>>>>> you again >>>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."" >>>>>> >>>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux >>>>>> not working like a Mac is a bug" >>>>>> >>>>>> Bizzarro. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even >>>>> as he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact. >>>> >>>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that >>>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you. >>>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written. >>>> Are you retarded? >>>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps? >>>> Maybe you are just a troll? >>>> Either way you have my sympathies. >>> >>> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said. >> >> Lying imbecile from Prescott AZ would be more to the point. >> Not to mention that Snit Michael Glasser squanders the little income of >> his wife in order to troll usenet 24/7. Most of it for adult diapers to >> stay near the computer. To hell with his children. Their needs are not >> any of his concerns > > So the troll is still unemployed? > He should be put to work cleaning toilets. Even he couldn't fuck that > up. Toilets don't respond to trolling and that's all he's capable of doing. -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Catholic
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| From | Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-06 19:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <145q3oqz7enp1.8ocoalwg19o2$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #466144 |
On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:48:44 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:29:17 +0000, William Poaster wrote: > >> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:39:37 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >> >>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap because there's been so much garbage code written >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in it... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run it on local machine ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve >>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past >>>>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have >>>>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux >>>>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, >>>>>>>>>>> online map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with >>>>>>>>>>> annotations. Now I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, >>>>>>>>>>> annotate, email. Just curious to see how you people would >>>>>>>>>>> generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A >>>>>>>>>>> couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >>>>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area >>>>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something >>>>>>>>>>> else: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options >>>>>>>>>>> but picked these because they fit the real-world example I did >>>>>>>>>>> shortly before coming up with the task. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing >>>>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to >>>>>>>>>>> do here: >>>>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all >>>>>>>>>>> links, >>>>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a >>>>>>>>>>> active link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have >>>>>>>>>>> to look the exact same, >>>>>>>>>>> of course): >>>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, >>>>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color >>>>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here: >>>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's >>>>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing >>>>>>>>>>> system. And still failed. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the >>>>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a >>>>>>>>>>> come-and-go fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add >>>>>>>>>>> multiple layers of sound. My end result here: >>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the >>>>>>>>>>> connection terminates the applications using that connection >>>>>>>>>>> also terminate. Also have the script detect apps not wanted to >>>>>>>>>>> go over the VPN and end the connection when appropriate. >>>>>>>>>>> Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but Marek says he pays >>>>>>>>>>> about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why others >>>>>>>>>>> have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I >>>>>>>>>>> had that the challenge was pretty trivial: >>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much >>>>>>>>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each >>>>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each >>>>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. >>>>>>>>>>> Owl also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it >>>>>>>>>>> worked). >>>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / >>>>>>>>>>> scripting challenge and thought it was about special search >>>>>>>>>>> results per OS. Weird. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no >>>>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA >>>>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they >>>>>>>>>>> could not find a good method). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of >>>>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one >>>>>>>>>>> of several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine >>>>>>>>>>> not only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me >>>>>>>>>>> to do quick searches on ingredients and the like... something >>>>>>>>>>> Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and >>>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder >>>>>>>>>>> creation and include some questions. Owl's solution: >>>>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/BjHo>. >>>>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current >>>>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl >>>>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then >>>>>>>>>>> selects a launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him >>>>>>>>>>> avoid manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I >>>>>>>>>>> automated my solution -- can use exact colors from images or >>>>>>>>>>> approximate for more variability (and sets text color based on >>>>>>>>>>> brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation of 50 with >>>>>>>>>>> changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >>>>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) >>>>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). >>>>>>>>>>> I challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he >>>>>>>>>>> can show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I >>>>>>>>>>> showed the same thing, but in Numbers: >>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a sucker's >>>>>>>>>>> bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing word >>>>>>>>>>> games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able to do >>>>>>>>>>> what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their >>>>>>>>>>> capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you >>>>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that. >>>>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during >>>>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months. >>>>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a >>>>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of >>>>>>>>>> tasks. Ever. >>>>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list >>>>>>>>>> of tasks that your Mac would trip over as well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind >>>>>>>>> you again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a >>>>>>>>> "bug." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily >>>>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved >>>>>>>> productivity and error-reduction. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind >>>>>>> you again >>>>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux >>>>>>> not working like a Mac is a bug" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bizzarro. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even >>>>>> as he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact. >>>>> >>>>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that >>>>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you. >>>>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written. >>>>> Are you retarded? >>>>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps? >>>>> Maybe you are just a troll? >>>>> Either way you have my sympathies. >>>> >>>> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said. >>> >>> Lying imbecile from Prescott AZ would be more to the point. >>> Not to mention that Snit Michael Glasser squanders the little income of >>> his wife in order to troll usenet 24/7. Most of it for adult diapers to >>> stay near the computer. To hell with his children. Their needs are not >>> any of his concerns >> >> So the troll is still unemployed? >> He should be put to work cleaning toilets. Even he couldn't fuck that >> up. > > Toilets don't respond to trolling and that's all he's capable of doing. This is the only toilet he knows. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiBqMWmyafdAhVmkeAKHa66DoQQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bigfishgames.com%2Fblog%2Fthrone-of-games-the-best-bathroom-supplies-for-gaming%2F&psig=AOvVaw2_fwWmXwoTgL4FonQc-f8q&ust=1536364334268160
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 17:10 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a68e5c5f-ea26-4723-8cf3-9e64e437befd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466144 |
On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 4:48:46 PM UTC-7, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:29:17 +0000, William Poaster wrote: > > > On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:39:37 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > > > >> SilverSlimer wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote: > >>>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap because there's been so much garbage code written > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in it... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run it on local machine ;) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve* > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve > >>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? > >>>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past > >>>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have > >>>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux > >>>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, > >>>>>>>>>> online map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with > >>>>>>>>>> annotations. Now I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, > >>>>>>>>>> annotate, email. Just curious to see how you people would > >>>>>>>>>> generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A > >>>>>>>>>> couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post > >>>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area > >>>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something > >>>>>>>>>> else: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options > >>>>>>>>>> but picked these because they fit the real-world example I did > >>>>>>>>>> shortly before coming up with the task. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing > >>>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to > >>>>>>>>>> do here: > >>>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all > >>>>>>>>>> links, > >>>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a > >>>>>>>>>> active link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have > >>>>>>>>>> to look the exact same, > >>>>>>>>>> of course): > >>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, > >>>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color > >>>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here: > >>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's > >>>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing > >>>>>>>>>> system. And still failed. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the > >>>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a > >>>>>>>>>> come-and-go fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add > >>>>>>>>>> multiple layers of sound. My end result here: > >>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the > >>>>>>>>>> connection terminates the applications using that connection > >>>>>>>>>> also terminate. Also have the script detect apps not wanted to > >>>>>>>>>> go over the VPN and end the connection when appropriate. > >>>>>>>>>> Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but Marek says he pays > >>>>>>>>>> about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why others > >>>>>>>>>> have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I > >>>>>>>>>> had that the challenge was pretty trivial: > >>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much > >>>>>>>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each > >>>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each > >>>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. > >>>>>>>>>> Owl also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it > >>>>>>>>>> worked). > >>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / > >>>>>>>>>> scripting challenge and thought it was about special search > >>>>>>>>>> results per OS. Weird. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no > >>>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA > >>>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they > >>>>>>>>>> could not find a good method). > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of > >>>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one > >>>>>>>>>> of several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine > >>>>>>>>>> not only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me > >>>>>>>>>> to do quick searches on ingredients and the like... something > >>>>>>>>>> Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and > >>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder > >>>>>>>>>> creation and include some questions. Owl's solution: > >>>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/BjHo>. > >>>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current > >>>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl > >>>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then > >>>>>>>>>> selects a launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him > >>>>>>>>>> avoid manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I > >>>>>>>>>> automated my solution -- can use exact colors from images or > >>>>>>>>>> approximate for more variability (and sets text color based on > >>>>>>>>>> brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation of 50 with > >>>>>>>>>> changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: > >>>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) > >>>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). > >>>>>>>>>> I challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he > >>>>>>>>>> can show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I > >>>>>>>>>> showed the same thing, but in Numbers: > >>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a sucker's > >>>>>>>>>> bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing word > >>>>>>>>>> games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able to do > >>>>>>>>>> what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their > >>>>>>>>>> capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets). > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you > >>>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that. > >>>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during > >>>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months. > >>>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a > >>>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of > >>>>>>>>> tasks. Ever. > >>>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list > >>>>>>>>> of tasks that your Mac would trip over as well. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind > >>>>>>>> you again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a > >>>>>>>> "bug." > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily > >>>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved > >>>>>>> productivity and error-reduction. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind > >>>>>> you again > >>>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."" > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux > >>>>>> not working like a Mac is a bug" > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Bizzarro. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even > >>>>> as he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact. > >>>> > >>>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that > >>>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you. > >>>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written. > >>>> Are you retarded? > >>>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps? > >>>> Maybe you are just a troll? > >>>> Either way you have my sympathies. > >>> > >>> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said. > >> > >> Lying imbecile from Prescott AZ would be more to the point. > >> Not to mention that Snit Michael Glasser squanders the little income of > >> his wife in order to troll usenet 24/7. Most of it for adult diapers to > >> stay near the computer. To hell with his children. Their needs are not > >> any of his concerns > > > > So the troll is still unemployed? > > He should be put to work cleaning toilets. Even he couldn't fuck that > > up. > > Toilets don't respond to trolling and that's all he's capable of doing. > > -- > SilverSlimer > FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate > Absolute centrist, proud Catholic -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 One thing that I have never seen spoofed is the Google acct. number so perhaps you can use it as a filtering criteria, too. Here's mine: posting-account=qzPusQoAAADVdKNEKE-jqIVbecHp7oZ7 My gmail posts go back to 2009 (that I've seen, crackhead's forgeries using gmail only go back to 2012). 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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fveeffFd20iU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466144 |
On 9/6/18 4:48 PM, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:29:17 +0000, William Poaster wrote: > >> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:39:37 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >> >>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap because there's been so much garbage code written >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in it... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run it on local machine ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve >>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past >>>>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have >>>>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux >>>>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, >>>>>>>>>>> online map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with >>>>>>>>>>> annotations. Now I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, >>>>>>>>>>> annotate, email. Just curious to see how you people would >>>>>>>>>>> generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A >>>>>>>>>>> couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >>>>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area >>>>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something >>>>>>>>>>> else: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options >>>>>>>>>>> but picked these because they fit the real-world example I did >>>>>>>>>>> shortly before coming up with the task. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing >>>>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to >>>>>>>>>>> do here: >>>>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all >>>>>>>>>>> links, >>>>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a >>>>>>>>>>> active link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have >>>>>>>>>>> to look the exact same, >>>>>>>>>>> of course): >>>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, >>>>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color >>>>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here: >>>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's >>>>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing >>>>>>>>>>> system. And still failed. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the >>>>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a >>>>>>>>>>> come-and-go fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add >>>>>>>>>>> multiple layers of sound. My end result here: >>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the >>>>>>>>>>> connection terminates the applications using that connection >>>>>>>>>>> also terminate. Also have the script detect apps not wanted to >>>>>>>>>>> go over the VPN and end the connection when appropriate. >>>>>>>>>>> Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but Marek says he pays >>>>>>>>>>> about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why others >>>>>>>>>>> have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I >>>>>>>>>>> had that the challenge was pretty trivial: >>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much >>>>>>>>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each >>>>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each >>>>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. >>>>>>>>>>> Owl also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it >>>>>>>>>>> worked). >>>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / >>>>>>>>>>> scripting challenge and thought it was about special search >>>>>>>>>>> results per OS. Weird. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no >>>>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA >>>>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they >>>>>>>>>>> could not find a good method). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of >>>>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one >>>>>>>>>>> of several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine >>>>>>>>>>> not only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me >>>>>>>>>>> to do quick searches on ingredients and the like... something >>>>>>>>>>> Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and >>>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder >>>>>>>>>>> creation and include some questions. Owl's solution: >>>>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/BjHo>. >>>>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current >>>>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl >>>>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then >>>>>>>>>>> selects a launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him >>>>>>>>>>> avoid manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I >>>>>>>>>>> automated my solution -- can use exact colors from images or >>>>>>>>>>> approximate for more variability (and sets text color based on >>>>>>>>>>> brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation of 50 with >>>>>>>>>>> changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >>>>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) >>>>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). >>>>>>>>>>> I challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he >>>>>>>>>>> can show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I >>>>>>>>>>> showed the same thing, but in Numbers: >>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a sucker's >>>>>>>>>>> bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing word >>>>>>>>>>> games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able to do >>>>>>>>>>> what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their >>>>>>>>>>> capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you >>>>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that. >>>>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during >>>>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months. >>>>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a >>>>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of >>>>>>>>>> tasks. Ever. >>>>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list >>>>>>>>>> of tasks that your Mac would trip over as well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind >>>>>>>>> you again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a >>>>>>>>> "bug." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily >>>>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved >>>>>>>> productivity and error-reduction. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind >>>>>>> you again >>>>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux >>>>>>> not working like a Mac is a bug" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bizzarro. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even >>>>>> as he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact. >>>>> >>>>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that >>>>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you. >>>>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written. >>>>> Are you retarded? >>>>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps? >>>>> Maybe you are just a troll? >>>>> Either way you have my sympathies. >>>> >>>> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said. >>> >>> Lying imbecile from Prescott AZ would be more to the point. >>> Not to mention that Snit Michael Glasser squanders the little income of >>> his wife in order to troll usenet 24/7. Most of it for adult diapers to >>> stay near the computer. To hell with his children. Their needs are not >>> any of his concerns >> >> So the troll is still unemployed? >> He should be put to work cleaning toilets. Even he couldn't fuck that >> up. > > Toilets don't respond to trolling and that's all he's capable of doing. > Notice I am the one who spoke of tech in this thread. And am now just noting how fast you guys run. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fveeduFd20iU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466139 |
On 9/6/18 4:29 PM, William Poaster wrote: > On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 22:39:37 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > >> SilverSlimer wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap because there's been so much garbage code written in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run it on local machine ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve >>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past >>>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have >>>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux >>>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, >>>>>>>>>> online map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with >>>>>>>>>> annotations. Now I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, >>>>>>>>>> annotate, email. Just curious to see how you people would >>>>>>>>>> generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A >>>>>>>>>> couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >>>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area >>>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something >>>>>>>>>> else: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options >>>>>>>>>> but picked these because they fit the real-world example I did >>>>>>>>>> shortly before coming up with the task. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing >>>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do >>>>>>>>>> here: >>>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, >>>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active >>>>>>>>>> link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look >>>>>>>>>> the exact same, >>>>>>>>>> of course): >>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, >>>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color >>>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here: >>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's >>>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing >>>>>>>>>> system. And still failed. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the >>>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a >>>>>>>>>> come-and-go fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add >>>>>>>>>> multiple layers of sound. My end result here: >>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the >>>>>>>>>> connection terminates the applications using that connection >>>>>>>>>> also terminate. Also have the script detect apps not wanted to >>>>>>>>>> go over the VPN and end the connection when appropriate. >>>>>>>>>> Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but Marek says he pays >>>>>>>>>> about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why others >>>>>>>>>> have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I had >>>>>>>>>> that the challenge was pretty trivial: >>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much >>>>>>>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each >>>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each >>>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl >>>>>>>>>> also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it >>>>>>>>>> worked). >>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / >>>>>>>>>> scripting challenge and thought it was about special search >>>>>>>>>> results per OS. Weird. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no >>>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA >>>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they >>>>>>>>>> could not find a good method). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of >>>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one >>>>>>>>>> of several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine >>>>>>>>>> not only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me >>>>>>>>>> to do quick searches on ingredients and the like... something >>>>>>>>>> Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and >>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder >>>>>>>>>> creation and include some questions. Owl's solution: >>>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/BjHo>. >>>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current >>>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl >>>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects >>>>>>>>>> a launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid >>>>>>>>>> manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I >>>>>>>>>> automated my solution -- can use exact colors from images or >>>>>>>>>> approximate for more variability (and sets text color based on >>>>>>>>>> brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation of 50 with >>>>>>>>>> changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >>>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) >>>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I >>>>>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can >>>>>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed >>>>>>>>>> the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. >>>>>>>>>> This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given >>>>>>>>>> how Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity >>>>>>>>>> over SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they >>>>>>>>>> hardly overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be >>>>>>>>>> spreadsheets). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you >>>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that. >>>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during >>>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months. >>>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a >>>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of >>>>>>>>> tasks. Ever. >>>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of >>>>>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you >>>>>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily >>>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved >>>>>>> productivity and error-reduction. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader... >>>>>> >>>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said: >>>>>> >>>>>> ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind >>>>>> you again >>>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."" >>>>>> >>>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux >>>>>> not working like a Mac is a bug" >>>>>> >>>>>> Bizzarro. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as >>>>> he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact. >>>> >>>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that >>>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you. >>>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written. >>>> Are you retarded? >>>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps? >>>> Maybe you are just a troll? >>>> Either way you have my sympathies. >>> >>> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said. >> >> Lying imbecile from Prescott AZ would be more to the point. >> Not to mention that Snit Michael Glasser squanders the little income of >> his wife in order to troll usenet 24/7. Most of it for adult diapers to >> stay near the computer. To hell with his children. Their needs are not >> any of his concerns > > So the troll is still unemployed? > He should be put to work cleaning toilets. Even he couldn't fuck that up. > Ah, insults against those who speak of tech. Amazing how much you guys LOATH speaking of tech. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 07:22 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fvcri2F33lgU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466053 |
On 9/6/18 5:13 AM, William Barnes wrote: > On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote: > >> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote: >>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is like Php, which has also been called crap because >>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's been so much garbage code written in it... any language >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be misused. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck, >>>>>>>>>>>>> M$ >>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it >>>>>>>>>>>>> on local machine ;) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at >>>>>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* >>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead >>>>>>>>>> of making excuses for it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but >>>>>>>> now provides a pretty stellar experience. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been >>>>>>> talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show >>>>>>> itself well. In others, not so much. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online >>>>>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I >>>>>>> know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just >>>>>>> curious to see how you people would generally do it and how >>>>>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might: >>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area >>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else: >>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked >>>>>>> these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before >>>>>>> coming up with the task. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing >>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do here: >>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the >>>>>>> HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to >>>>>>> the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same, >>>>>>> of course): >>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, including >>>>>>> with the top range expanding as needed and a color change with the >>>>>>> bar. More details here: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> >>>>>>> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a >>>>>>> competing system. And still failed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video >>>>>>> bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion >>>>>>> sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. My >>>>>>> end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection >>>>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. Also >>>>>>> have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and end the >>>>>>> connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, >>>>>>> but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes >>>>>>> sense why others have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and >>>>>>> once I had that the challenge was pretty trivial: >>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much better ways >>>>>>> to achieve the goals Marek states. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter >>>>>>> of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My >>>>>>> results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented a >>>>>>> solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann >>>>>>> failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and >>>>>>> thought it was about special search results per OS. Weird. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no >>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA >>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could not >>>>>>> find a good method). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of allrecipes.com >>>>>>> (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of several versions I >>>>>>> did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not only worked, but the PDF >>>>>>> had selectable text and allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients >>>>>>> and the like... something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so >>>>>>> well that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation and >>>>>>> include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. Snit's >>>>>>> solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current >>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl >>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a >>>>>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually >>>>>>> selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution >>>>>>> -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for more >>>>>>> variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully automated >>>>>>> -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background: >>>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) >>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I >>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can show >>>>>>> SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the same >>>>>>> thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was >>>>>>> clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been >>>>>>> playing word games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able >>>>>>> to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their >>>>>>> capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets). >>>>>> >>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully >>>>>> crafted your tests to show that. >>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter >>>>>> months but not so great during the summer months. >>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a >>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks. >>>>>> Ever. >>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of tasks >>>>>> that your Mac would trip over as well. >>>>> >>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again >>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." >>>> >>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily reminders of >>>> how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved productivity and >>>> error-reduction. >>>> >>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader... >>> >>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said: >>> >>> ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again >>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."" >>> >>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux not >>> working like a Mac is a bug" >>> >>> Bizzarro. >>> >>> >> >> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as he >> attributes it to me. That is simply a fact. > > Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that RonB > made the statement he attributed to you. He DID make the statement he falsely attributed to me. To deny that would be dishonest. And funny, Mr. Sock who acts like Carroll's other socks, how you obsess over my noting ACCURATELY what RonB said and ignore how he lied about my views and actions. It is as if you are obsessed with me and desperate to make me seem half as bad as those who troll these waters. Gee, what a shock... you, Mr. Sock, trying to put me on the defensive because I responded to trolling targeted against me in ways YOU do not like (specifically, doing so in an honest way). See if you can respond WITHOUT trying to nit pick and accuse me, the one RonB targeted with his nonsense. See if you can avoid blowing his nonsense or my response out of proportion and trying to turn this very minor issue into a bigger one. See if you can. And watch yourself fail. And then understand one of your tells. :) > You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written. > Are you retarded? > Suffering with dyslexia perhaps? > Maybe you are just a troll? > Either way you have my sympathies. > -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 21:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fvboouFqpscU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #465954 |
On 9/5/18 9:44 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote: > >> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: >>> >>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. >>>>>>>>>>> This is like Php, which has also been called crap because >>>>>>>>>>> there's been so much garbage code written in it... any language >>>>>>>>>>> can be misused. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck, >>>>>>>>>> M$ >>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it >>>>>>>>>> on local machine ;) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at >>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* >>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead >>>>>>> of making excuses for it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>>>> >>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but >>>>> now provides a pretty stellar experience. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been >>>> talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show >>>> itself well. In others, not so much. >>>> >>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online >>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I >>>> know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just >>>> curious to see how you people would generally do it and how >>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might: >>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >>>> >>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area >>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else: >>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked >>>> these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before >>>> coming up with the task. >>>> >>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing >>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do here: >>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >>>> >>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the >>>> HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to >>>> the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same, >>>> of course): >>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. >>>> >>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, including >>>> with the top range expanding as needed and a color change with the >>>> bar. More details here: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> >>>> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a >>>> competing system. And still failed. >>>> >>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video >>>> bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion >>>> sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. My >>>> end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >>>> >>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection >>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. Also >>>> have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and end the >>>> connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, >>>> but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes >>>> sense why others have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and >>>> once I had that the challenge was pretty trivial: >>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much better ways >>>> to achieve the goals Marek states. >>>> >>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter >>>> of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My >>>> results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented a >>>> solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann >>>> failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and >>>> thought it was about special search results per OS. Weird. >>>> >>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no >>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA >>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could not >>>> find a good method). >>>> >>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of allrecipes.com >>>> (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of several versions I >>>> did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not only worked, but the PDF >>>> had selectable text and allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients >>>> and the like... something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so >>>> well that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. >>>> >>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation and >>>> include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. Snit's >>>> solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >>>> >>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current >>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl >>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a >>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually >>>> selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution >>>> -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for more >>>> variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully automated >>>> -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background: >>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >>>> >>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) >>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) >>>> >>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I >>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can show >>>> SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the same >>>> thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was >>>> clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been >>>> playing word games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able >>>> to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their >>>> capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets). >>> >>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully >>> crafted your tests to show that. >>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter >>> months but not so great during the summer months. >>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a >>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks. >>> Ever. >>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of tasks >>> that your Mac would trip over as well. >> >> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again >> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." > > I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily reminders of > how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved productivity and > error-reduction. > > I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader... I have no desire to be a leader of this group, but there is a clear need for you and RonB to follow SOMEONE such as myself who is moral. Well, a "need" if you wish to be moral. I see no evidence of that. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 16:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fv8kahF7auaU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #465879 |
On 9/4/18 3:59 PM, William Barnes wrote: > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: > >> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. This >>>>>>>>> is like Php, which has also been called crap because there's been >>>>>>>>> so much garbage code written in it... any language can be misused. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck, M$ >>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it on >>>>>>>> local machine ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>> >>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at their >>>>>> jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* nintey >>>>>> fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>> >>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>> >>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead of >>>>> making excuses for it. >>>> >>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>> >>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but now >>> provides a pretty stellar experience. >>> >>> >>> >> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been >> talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show >> itself well. In others, not so much. >> >> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online map, >> whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I know this >> can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just curious to see >> how you people would generally do it and how streamlined the workflow >> would be. A couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >> >> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area highlighting. >> For me these were done just to show something else: >> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked >> these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before >> coming up with the task. >> >> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing borders >> of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do here: >> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >> >> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the >> HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to >> the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same, >> of course): >> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. >> >> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, including >> with the top range expanding as needed and a color change with the >> bar. More details here: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> >> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a >> competing system. And still failed. >> >> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video >> bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion >> sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. My >> end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >> >> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection >> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. Also >> have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and end the >> connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but >> Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why >> others have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I had >> that the challenge was pretty trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. >> There are, of course, much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. >> >> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter of >> the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My results >> are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented a solution >> for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann failed to >> recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and thought it was >> about special search results per OS. Weird. >> >> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no >> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA >> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could not >> find a good method). >> >> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of allrecipes.com >> (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of several versions I >> did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not only worked, but the PDF >> had selectable text and allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients >> and the like... something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so >> well that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. >> >> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation and >> include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. Snit's >> solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >> >> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current >> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl created >> 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a launcher >> (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually selecting >> colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution -- can use >> exact colors from images or approximate for more variability (and sets >> text color based on brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation >> of 50 with changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >> >> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) >> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) >> >> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I >> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can show SC >> doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the same thing, >> but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a >> sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing word >> games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able to do what >> Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their capabilities >> (other than to both be spreadsheets). > > Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully > crafted your tests to show that. Nope -- and, as noted, not all of those were even proposed by me. I do not care if the workflow is different -- in fact I hope it is! And open to other tasks. Why not pick some? There ARE others doing so now, mostly in terms of programming tasks. I am not a programmer and thus am not participating in those but am happy to see it. > A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter > months but not so great during the summer months. > I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a situation > where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks. > Ever. So what type tasks do you do. As I have said, there are absolutely tasks where Linux is the better choice. I know I use it myself. > I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of tasks > that your Mac would trip over as well. Cool! I would love to see it. One thing I listed was the task people were talking about to hide data in images in specific ways. While you might be able to use the same tools on a Mac, those tools tend to work better on Linux and if nothing else it is certainly the cheaper solution. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 11:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fv8101F3hsmU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #465820 |
On 9/4/18 7:05 AM, William Barnes wrote: > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: > >> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>> >>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. This is like >>>>>> Php, which has also been called crap because there's been so much >>>>>> garbage code written in it... any language can be misused. >>>>> >>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck, M$ had >>>>> even better idea: download binary from internet and run it on local >>>>> machine ;) >>>> >>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>> >>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at their >>> jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* nintey >>> fscking percent of the desktop market. >>> >>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >> >> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead of >> making excuses for it. > > Where do you feel Linux is lacking? > Be specific and market share != lacking. We have looked at some in the past. It deals a lot with, of course, task completion. Now if you are looking for some of the programmer type tasks talked about here, such as embedding hidden data in an image, then Linux is a fine choice -- perhaps second to none. But if you are talking about basic things where people are designing documents, emailing them, annotating PDFs or images, etc., then while these things are POSSIBLE on Linux (and often not even hard), they are not done as well as on the competition. I can pull up my list of tasks others and I have looked at together if you like. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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