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Kernel 4.19

Started byMelzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>
First post2018-09-02 06:43 +0000
Last post2018-09-04 07:21 -0700
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  Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 06:43 +0000
    Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 00:01 -0700
      Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:33 -0700
    Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 02:53 -0700
    Re: Kernel 4.19 "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-02 12:34 +0000
      Re: Kernel 4.19 Nobody you know <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2018-09-02 10:36 -0400
        Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:49 -0700
          Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:31 -0700
      Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 19:23 +0000
        Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 12:44 -0700
        Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:50 -0700
          Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 21:13 +0000
            Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 14:33 -0700
            Re: Kernel 4.19 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-09-02 21:52 +0000
              Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 21:58 +0000
                Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 15:33 -0700
                  Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 22:41 +0000
                    Re: Kernel 4.19 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-02 19:07 -0400
                      Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 19:29 -0700
                      Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-04 07:33 -0500
                        Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 06:37 -0700
                          Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 06:40 -0700
                          Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-04 10:05 -0400
                            Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-04 09:14 -0500
                            Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-04 15:58 +0000
                              Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 11:48 -0700
                                Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-04 18:59 -0400
                                  Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 16:21 -0700
                                  Re: Kernel 4.19 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 23:49 +0000
                                    Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 17:08 -0700
                                    Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 17:24 -0700
                                      Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 17:54 -0700
                                      Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-04 22:26 -0400
                                        Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 21:39 -0700
                                          Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 22:03 -0700
                                        Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 07:03 -0500
                                          Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 07:09 -0500
                                          Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 07:36 -0700
                                            Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 07:55 -0700
                                        Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-05 16:47 +0000
                                          crApple products chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 12:15 -0500
                                            Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 01:03 +0000
                                              Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 18:20 -0700
                                              Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:17 -0700
                                              Re: crApple products chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 09:47 -0500
                                                Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 08:06 -0700
                                                Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 14:36 -0700
                                                  Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:51 -0700
                                            Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:30 -0700
                                            Re: crApple products DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-06 12:44 -0400
                                              Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 11:28 -0700
                                              Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:35 -0700
                                            Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 23:57 +0000
                                              Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 00:17 +0000
                                                Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 21:25 -0400
                                                  Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 03:51 +0000
                                                    Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 22:00 -0700
                                                    Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:44 +0000
                                                      Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 23:15 +0000
                                                        Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:34 +0000
                                                          Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:42 -0400
                                                        Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:11 -0700
                                                      Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-07 18:43 -0700
                                                  Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:40 +0000
                                                    Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:53 -0400
                                                      Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 23:12 +0000
                                                        Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:20 -0400
                                                          Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:22 -0700
                                                          Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 21:21 +0000
                                                            Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 21:39 +0000
                                                              Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 14:56 -0700
                                                                Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:55 -0700
                                                              Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 09:12 -0700
                                                                Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 09:32 -0700
                                                                Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 21:37 +0000
                                                                  Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 14:47 -0700
                                                                    Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 22:12 +0000
                                                                      Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 15:29 -0700
                                                                        Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 15:47 -0700
                                                                        Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 22:48 +0000
                                                                          Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 15:57 -0700
                                                                            Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 23:26 +0000
                                                                        Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-09 16:00 -0700
                                                                          Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 16:50 -0700
                                                                      Re: crApple products Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> - 2018-09-09 19:43 -0400
                                                                        Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 17:05 -0700
                                                                        "Gain" is the _ input volume. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-09 18:57 -0700
                                                                          Re: "Gain" is the _ input volume. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 19:26 -0700
                                                            Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 14:53 -0700
                                                              Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 15:04 -0700
                                                              Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 15:19 -0700
                                                      Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:28 +0000
                                                        Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:39 -0400
                                                          Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 14:06 +0000
                                                            Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:39 -0700
                                                        Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:29 -0700
                                                      Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:10 -0700
                                                    Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-07 18:42 -0700
                                                Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:52 -0700
                                          Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 10:15 -0700
                                          Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:29 -0700
                                      Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 21:47 -0700
                                    Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-05 16:44 +0000
                                      Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 09:59 -0700
                                      Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:34 -0400
                                        Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:31 -0700
                                          Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 08:13 -0400
                                            Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 12:42 +0000
                                              Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 06:00 -0700
                                              Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 09:06 -0400
                                                Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 06:33 -0700
                                                Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:30 -0700
                                                Re: Kernel 4.19 William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> - 2018-09-06 23:23 +0000
                                                  Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 23:48 +0000
                                                    Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700
                                                  Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:50 -0700
                                              Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:26 -0700
                                                Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 07:51 -0700
                                              Re: Kernel 4.19 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-09-06 22:39 +0200
                                                Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 13:54 -0700
                                                Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:05 -0700
                                                Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 18:26 -0400
                                                  Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:53 -0700
                                                Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 23:26 +0000
                                                  Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:50 -0700
                                                Re: Kernel 4.19 William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> - 2018-09-06 23:29 +0000
                                                  Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 19:39 -0400
                                                    Re: Kernel 4.19 William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> - 2018-09-06 23:47 +0000
                                                      Re: Kernel 4.19 Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> - 2018-09-06 19:50 -0400
                                                        Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:52 -0700
                                                      Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 17:26 -0700
                                                  Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 23:48 +0000
                                                    Re: Kernel 4.19 Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> - 2018-09-06 19:53 -0400
                                                    Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 17:10 -0700
                                                    Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700
                                                  Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700
                                            Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:22 -0700
                                      Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:29 -0700
                                  Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 16:54 -0700
                            Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 11:25 -0700
                              Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 11:54 -0700
                            Re: Kernel 4.19 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 23:46 +0000
                              Re: Kernel 4.19 DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-07 10:58 -0400
                                Re: Kernel 4.19 fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-07 09:16 -0700
                                Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:50 +0000
                                  Re: Kernel 4.19 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 23:16 +0000
                                    Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:35 +0000
                                      Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:44 -0400
                                        Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 14:07 +0000
                                          Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-08 14:14 +0000
                                            Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 10:06 -0700
                                          Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:39 -0700
                                          Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 07:25 -0500
                                            Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 05:53 -0700
                                            Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 06:37 -0700
                                            Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-10 15:45 +0000
                                              Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 11:05 -0500
                                                Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 12:46 -0700
                                                Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-10 23:25 +0000
                                              Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 12:23 -0700
                                      Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:32 -0700
                  Re: Kernel 4.19 "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-02 22:48 +0000
                    Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 22:57 +0000
                    Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 16:27 -0700
              Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 15:20 -0700
            Re: Kernel 4.19 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-02 19:06 -0400
              Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 17:56 -0700
          Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 14:17 -0700
        Re: Kernel 4.19 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-02 19:05 -0400
        Frankly, I don't notice [any] difference [in the Kernel] Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 07:21 -0700

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#466026

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-09-05 21:29 -0700
Message-ID<fvboq7FqpscU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#465956
On 9/5/18 9:47 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 22:26:36 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 17:24:31 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/4/18 4:49 PM, RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is like Php, which has also been called crap because
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's been so much garbage code written in it... any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> language can be misused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck, M$
>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it
>>>>>>>>>>>> on local machine ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better at
>>>>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve*
>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve
>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but
>>>>>>> now provides a pretty stellar experience.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been
>>>>>> talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show
>>>>>> itself well. In others, not so much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online
>>>>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I
>>>>>> know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just
>>>>>> curious to see how you people would generally do it and how
>>>>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might:
>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else:
>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked
>>>>>> these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before
>>>>>> coming up with the task.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing
>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do
>>>>>> here: <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the
>>>>>> HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to
>>>>>> the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact
>>>>>> same, of course):
>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated,
>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color change
>>>>>> with the bar. More details here:
>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512>
>>>>>> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a
>>>>>> competing system. And still failed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video
>>>>>> bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion
>>>>>> sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound.
>>>>>> My end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection
>>>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate.
>>>>>> Also have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and
>>>>>> end the connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few
>>>>>> took it on, but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN
>>>>>> services, so makes sense why others have not done it! I did end up
>>>>>> with a VPN service and once I had that the challenge was pretty
>>>>>> trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much
>>>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter
>>>>>> of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My
>>>>>> results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented
>>>>>> a solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann
>>>>>> failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and
>>>>>> thought it was about special search results per OS. Weird.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could
>>>>>> not find a good method).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of
>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of
>>>>>> several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not
>>>>>> only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me to do
>>>>>> quick searches on ingredients and the like... something Owl was
>>>>>> never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and Peter Köhlmann
>>>>>> insisted it must have been faked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation
>>>>>> and include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>.
>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl
>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a
>>>>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually
>>>>>> selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my
>>>>>> solution -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for more
>>>>>> variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully
>>>>>> automated -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background:
>>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I
>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can
>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the
>>>>>> same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was
>>>>>> clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had
>>>>>> been playing word games and showing deep insecurity over SC not
>>>>>> being able to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap
>>>>>> in their capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets).
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully
>>>>> crafted your tests to show that.
>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter
>>>>> months but not so great during the summer months.
>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a
>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks.
>>>>> Ever.
>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of
>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well.
>>>>
>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Why would you want Linux to work like a Mac? Do you think how macOS
>>> handles things is the only good way? Just seems bizarre to me.
>>
>> That's not what Ronb is saying.
>> He is saying that anything on another OS that doesn't work like a Mac is
>> a bug.
>> You seem fixated on things the Mac does well and that's fine but you
>> ignore the things other OS do well that the Mac can't.
>> Example, upgrades and newer hardware.
>> Soldered in memory and so forth.
> 
> Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad that
> the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to upgrade or
> remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is a great deal.

Agreed.

>> Macs are tied to Thunderbolt.
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Nice attempt at spin though.
> 
> Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is
> interested in supporting...

Lots of other companies make Thunderbolt devices.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#465902

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-04 21:47 -0700
Message-ID<e83a078f-b731-4556-a0ce-400cc07f2baf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#465888
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 5:24:34 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> On 9/4/18 4:49 PM, RonB wrote:
> > On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
> >>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. This
> >>>>>>>>>> is like Php, which has also been called crap because there's been
> >>>>>>>>>> so much garbage code written in it... any language can be misused.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck, M$
> >>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it on
> >>>>>>>>> local machine ;)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better at their
> >>>>>>> jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* nintey
> >>>>>>> fscking percent of the desktop market.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead of
> >>>>>> making excuses for it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
> >>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but now
> >>>> provides a pretty stellar experience.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been
> >>> talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show
> >>> itself well. In others, not so much.
> >>>
> >>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online map,
> >>> whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I know this
> >>> can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just curious to see
> >>> how you people would generally do it and how streamlined the workflow
> >>> would be. A couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
> >>>
> >>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
> >>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area highlighting.
> >>> For me these were done just to show something else:
> >>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked
> >>> these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before
> >>> coming up with the task.
> >>>
> >>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing borders
> >>> of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do here:
> >>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
> >>>
> >>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the
> >>> HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to
> >>> the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same,
> >>> of course):
> >>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
> >>>
> >>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, including
> >>> with the top range expanding as needed and a color change with the
> >>> bar. More details here: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512>
> >>> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a
> >>> competing system. And still failed.
> >>>
> >>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video
> >>> bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion
> >>> sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. My
> >>> end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
> >>>
> >>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection
> >>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. Also
> >>> have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and end the
> >>> connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but
> >>> Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why
> >>> others have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I had
> >>> that the challenge was pretty trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>.
> >>> There are, of course, much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states.
> >>>
> >>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter of
> >>> the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My results
> >>> are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented a solution
> >>> for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann failed to
> >>> recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and thought it was
> >>> about special search results per OS. Weird.
> >>>
> >>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
> >>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
> >>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could not
> >>> find a good method).
> >>>
> >>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of allrecipes.com
> >>> (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of several versions I
> >>> did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not only worked, but the PDF
> >>> had selectable text and allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients
> >>> and the like... something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so
> >>> well that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
> >>>
> >>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation and
> >>> include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. Snit's
> >>> solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
> >>>
> >>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
> >>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl created
> >>> 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a launcher
> >>> (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually selecting
> >>> colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution -- can use
> >>> exact colors from images or approximate for more variability (and sets
> >>> text color based on brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation
> >>> of 50 with changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
> >>>
> >>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
> >>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
> >>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
> >>>
> >>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I
> >>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can show SC
> >>> doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the same thing,
> >>> but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a
> >>> sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing word
> >>> games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able to do what
> >>> Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their capabilities
> >>> (other than to both be spreadsheets).
> >>
> >> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully
> >> crafted your tests to show that.
> >> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter
> >> months but not so great during the summer months.
> >> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a situation
> >> where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks.
> >> Ever.
> >> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of tasks
> >> that your Mac would trip over as well.
> > 
> > "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again
> > (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."
> > 
> 
> Why would you want Linux to work like a Mac? Do you think how macOS 
> handles things is the only good way? Just seems bizarre to me.
> 
> -- 
> Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
> cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
> somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
> 
> They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> 
> <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>



How Chris 'The Flooder' Ahlstrom determines when to use the flood script to best emulate the style of Sandman's posts  http://usenet.sandman.net/misc/snit_flood. 

The one skill Chris 'The Flooder' Ahlstrom learned fully is to work to humiliate Sandman into submission and if that does not work, flood the thread or completely change the goalpost. Already moved on from that. You are too slow! Other than Chris 'The Flooder' Ahlstrom, who can not figure out what Sandman is doing? 

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#465954

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-09-05 16:44 +0000
Message-ID<HJTjD.57072$Vl2.26770@fx46.iad>
In reply to#465884
On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote:

> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided.
>>>>>>>>>> This is like Php, which has also been called crap because
>>>>>>>>>> there's been so much garbage code written in it... any language
>>>>>>>>>> can be misused.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck,
>>>>>>>>> M$
>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it
>>>>>>>>> on local machine ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better at
>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve*
>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead
>>>>>> of making excuses for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
>>>> 
>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but
>>>> now provides a pretty stellar experience.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been
>>> talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show
>>> itself well. In others, not so much.
>>> 
>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online
>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I
>>> know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just
>>> curious to see how you people would generally do it and how
>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might:
>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
>>> 
>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else:
>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked
>>> these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before
>>> coming up with the task.
>>> 
>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing
>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do here:
>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
>>> 
>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the
>>> HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to
>>> the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same,
>>> of course):
>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
>>> 
>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, including
>>> with the top range expanding as needed and a color change with the
>>> bar. More details here: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512>
>>> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a
>>> competing system. And still failed.
>>> 
>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video
>>> bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion
>>> sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. My
>>> end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
>>> 
>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection
>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. Also
>>> have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and end the
>>> connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few took it on,
>>> but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes
>>> sense why others have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and
>>> once I had that the challenge was pretty trivial:
>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much better ways
>>> to achieve the goals Marek states.
>>> 
>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter
>>> of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My
>>> results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented a
>>> solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann
>>> failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and
>>> thought it was about special search results per OS. Weird.
>>> 
>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could not
>>> find a good method).
>>> 
>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of allrecipes.com
>>> (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of several versions I
>>> did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not only worked, but the PDF
>>> had selectable text and allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients
>>> and the like... something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so
>>> well that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
>>> 
>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation and
>>> include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. Snit's
>>> solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
>>> 
>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl
>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a
>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually
>>> selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution
>>> -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for more
>>> variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully automated
>>> -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background:
>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
>>> 
>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
>>> 
>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I
>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can show
>>> SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the same
>>> thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was
>>> clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been
>>> playing word games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able
>>> to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their
>>> capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets).
>>
>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully
>> crafted your tests to show that.
>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter
>> months but not so great during the summer months.
>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a
>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks.
>> Ever.
>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of tasks
>> that your Mac would trip over as well.
> 
> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again
> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."

I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily reminders of 
how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved productivity and 
error-reduction.

I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader...

-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
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#465957

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-05 09:59 -0700
Message-ID<99ed2fef-3018-4e11-ae80-c05dd20d7661@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#465954
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 9:44:26 AM UTC-7, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote:
> 
> > On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
> >>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided.
> >>>>>>>>>> This is like Php, which has also been called crap because
> >>>>>>>>>> there's been so much garbage code written in it... any language
> >>>>>>>>>> can be misused.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck,
> >>>>>>>>> M$
> >>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it
> >>>>>>>>> on local machine ;)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better at
> >>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve*
> >>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead
> >>>>>> of making excuses for it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
> >>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but
> >>>> now provides a pretty stellar experience.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been
> >>> talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show
> >>> itself well. In others, not so much.
> >>> 
> >>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online
> >>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I
> >>> know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just
> >>> curious to see how you people would generally do it and how
> >>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might:
> >>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
> >>> 
> >>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
> >>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
> >>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else:
> >>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked
> >>> these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before
> >>> coming up with the task.
> >>> 
> >>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing
> >>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do here:
> >>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
> >>> 
> >>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the
> >>> HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to
> >>> the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same,
> >>> of course):
> >>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
> >>> 
> >>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, including
> >>> with the top range expanding as needed and a color change with the
> >>> bar. More details here: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512>
> >>> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a
> >>> competing system. And still failed.
> >>> 
> >>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video
> >>> bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion
> >>> sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. My
> >>> end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
> >>> 
> >>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection
> >>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. Also
> >>> have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and end the
> >>> connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few took it on,
> >>> but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes
> >>> sense why others have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and
> >>> once I had that the challenge was pretty trivial:
> >>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much better ways
> >>> to achieve the goals Marek states.
> >>> 
> >>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter
> >>> of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My
> >>> results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented a
> >>> solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann
> >>> failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and
> >>> thought it was about special search results per OS. Weird.
> >>> 
> >>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
> >>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
> >>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could not
> >>> find a good method).
> >>> 
> >>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of allrecipes.com
> >>> (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of several versions I
> >>> did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not only worked, but the PDF
> >>> had selectable text and allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients
> >>> and the like... something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so
> >>> well that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
> >>> 
> >>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation and
> >>> include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. Snit's
> >>> solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
> >>> 
> >>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
> >>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl
> >>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a
> >>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually
> >>> selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution
> >>> -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for more
> >>> variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully automated
> >>> -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background:
> >>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
> >>> 
> >>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
> >>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
> >>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
> >>> 
> >>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I
> >>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can show
> >>> SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the same
> >>> thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was
> >>> clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been
> >>> playing word games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able
> >>> to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their
> >>> capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets).
> >>
> >> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully
> >> crafted your tests to show that.
> >> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter
> >> months but not so great during the summer months.
> >> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a
> >> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks.
> >> Ever.
> >> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of tasks
> >> that your Mac would trip over as well.
> > 
> > "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again
> > (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."
> 
> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily reminders of 
> how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved productivity and 
> error-reduction.
> 
> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader...
> 
> -- 
> SilverSlimer
> FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
> Absolute centrist, proud Catholic



You likely think Debian handles the desktop well. Nope. Not compared to the competition. 

Reviewing Linux... even now a neophyte. Was that meant to be your best shot? 

Just hogwash from Desk 'The Moron' Rabbit. But he has completely left tech behind and is just holding me responsible for the exploits of himself. 

Is this for real? 

The text of the post is a bunch of rambling bullshit. That points to one person. 

With no support at all, as is expected for Desk 'The Moron' Rabbit. 



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#465963

FromWilliam Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com>
Date2018-09-05 13:34 -0400
Message-ID<fvaicsFje08U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#465954
On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:

> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided.
>>>>>>>>>>> This is like Php, which has also been called crap because
>>>>>>>>>>> there's been so much garbage code written in it... any language
>>>>>>>>>>> can be misused.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck,
>>>>>>>>>> M$
>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it
>>>>>>>>>> on local machine ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better at
>>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve*
>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead
>>>>>>> of making excuses for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but
>>>>> now provides a pretty stellar experience.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been
>>>> talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show
>>>> itself well. In others, not so much.
>>>> 
>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online
>>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I
>>>> know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just
>>>> curious to see how you people would generally do it and how
>>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might:
>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
>>>> 
>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else:
>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked
>>>> these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before
>>>> coming up with the task.
>>>> 
>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing
>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do here:
>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
>>>> 
>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the
>>>> HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to
>>>> the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same,
>>>> of course):
>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
>>>> 
>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, including
>>>> with the top range expanding as needed and a color change with the
>>>> bar. More details here: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512>
>>>> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a
>>>> competing system. And still failed.
>>>> 
>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video
>>>> bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion
>>>> sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. My
>>>> end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
>>>> 
>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection
>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. Also
>>>> have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and end the
>>>> connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few took it on,
>>>> but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes
>>>> sense why others have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and
>>>> once I had that the challenge was pretty trivial:
>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much better ways
>>>> to achieve the goals Marek states.
>>>> 
>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter
>>>> of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My
>>>> results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented a
>>>> solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann
>>>> failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and
>>>> thought it was about special search results per OS. Weird.
>>>> 
>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could not
>>>> find a good method).
>>>> 
>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of allrecipes.com
>>>> (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of several versions I
>>>> did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not only worked, but the PDF
>>>> had selectable text and allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients
>>>> and the like... something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so
>>>> well that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
>>>> 
>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation and
>>>> include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. Snit's
>>>> solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
>>>> 
>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl
>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a
>>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually
>>>> selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution
>>>> -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for more
>>>> variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully automated
>>>> -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background:
>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
>>>> 
>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
>>>> 
>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I
>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can show
>>>> SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the same
>>>> thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was
>>>> clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been
>>>> playing word games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able
>>>> to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their
>>>> capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets).
>>>
>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully
>>> crafted your tests to show that.
>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter
>>> months but not so great during the summer months.
>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a
>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks.
>>> Ever.
>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of tasks
>>> that your Mac would trip over as well.
>> 
>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again
>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."
> 
> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily reminders of 
> how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved productivity and 
> error-reduction.
> 
> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader...

He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said:

 ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again
(and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug.""

Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux not 
working like a Mac is a bug"

Bizzarro.
 

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#466028

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-09-05 21:31 -0700
Message-ID<fvbotbFqpscU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#465963
On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided.
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is like Php, which has also been called crap because
>>>>>>>>>>>> there's been so much garbage code written in it... any language
>>>>>>>>>>>> can be misused.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck,
>>>>>>>>>>> M$
>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it
>>>>>>>>>>> on local machine ;)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better at
>>>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve*
>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead
>>>>>>>> of making excuses for it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but
>>>>>> now provides a pretty stellar experience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been
>>>>> talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show
>>>>> itself well. In others, not so much.
>>>>>
>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online
>>>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I
>>>>> know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just
>>>>> curious to see how you people would generally do it and how
>>>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might:
>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else:
>>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked
>>>>> these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before
>>>>> coming up with the task.
>>>>>
>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing
>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do here:
>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the
>>>>> HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to
>>>>> the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same,
>>>>> of course):
>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, including
>>>>> with the top range expanding as needed and a color change with the
>>>>> bar. More details here: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512>
>>>>> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a
>>>>> competing system. And still failed.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video
>>>>> bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion
>>>>> sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. My
>>>>> end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection
>>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. Also
>>>>> have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and end the
>>>>> connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few took it on,
>>>>> but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes
>>>>> sense why others have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and
>>>>> once I had that the challenge was pretty trivial:
>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much better ways
>>>>> to achieve the goals Marek states.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter
>>>>> of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My
>>>>> results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented a
>>>>> solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann
>>>>> failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and
>>>>> thought it was about special search results per OS. Weird.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could not
>>>>> find a good method).
>>>>>
>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of allrecipes.com
>>>>> (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of several versions I
>>>>> did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not only worked, but the PDF
>>>>> had selectable text and allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients
>>>>> and the like... something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so
>>>>> well that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation and
>>>>> include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. Snit's
>>>>> solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
>>>>>
>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl
>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a
>>>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually
>>>>> selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution
>>>>> -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for more
>>>>> variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully automated
>>>>> -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background:
>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
>>>>>
>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
>>>>>
>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I
>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can show
>>>>> SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the same
>>>>> thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was
>>>>> clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been
>>>>> playing word games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able
>>>>> to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their
>>>>> capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets).
>>>>
>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully
>>>> crafted your tests to show that.
>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter
>>>> months but not so great during the summer months.
>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a
>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks.
>>>> Ever.
>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of tasks
>>>> that your Mac would trip over as well.
>>>
>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again
>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."
>>
>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily reminders of
>> how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved productivity and
>> error-reduction.
>>
>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader...
> 
> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said:
> 
>   ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again
> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug.""
> 
> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux not
> working like a Mac is a bug"
> 
> Bizzarro.
>   
> 

RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as he 
attributes it to me. That is simply a fact.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#466053

FromWilliam Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com>
Date2018-09-06 08:13 -0400
Message-ID<fvcjupF1iraU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#466028
On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote:

> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote:
>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is like Php, which has also been called crap because
>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's been so much garbage code written in it... any language
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be misused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck,
>>>>>>>>>>>> M$
>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it
>>>>>>>>>>>> on local machine ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better at
>>>>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve*
>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead
>>>>>>>>> of making excuses for it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but
>>>>>>> now provides a pretty stellar experience.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been
>>>>>> talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show
>>>>>> itself well. In others, not so much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online
>>>>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I
>>>>>> know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just
>>>>>> curious to see how you people would generally do it and how
>>>>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might:
>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else:
>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked
>>>>>> these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before
>>>>>> coming up with the task.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing
>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do here:
>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the
>>>>>> HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to
>>>>>> the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same,
>>>>>> of course):
>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, including
>>>>>> with the top range expanding as needed and a color change with the
>>>>>> bar. More details here: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512>
>>>>>> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a
>>>>>> competing system. And still failed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video
>>>>>> bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion
>>>>>> sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. My
>>>>>> end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection
>>>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. Also
>>>>>> have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and end the
>>>>>> connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few took it on,
>>>>>> but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes
>>>>>> sense why others have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and
>>>>>> once I had that the challenge was pretty trivial:
>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much better ways
>>>>>> to achieve the goals Marek states.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter
>>>>>> of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My
>>>>>> results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented a
>>>>>> solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann
>>>>>> failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and
>>>>>> thought it was about special search results per OS. Weird.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could not
>>>>>> find a good method).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of allrecipes.com
>>>>>> (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of several versions I
>>>>>> did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not only worked, but the PDF
>>>>>> had selectable text and allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients
>>>>>> and the like... something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so
>>>>>> well that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation and
>>>>>> include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. Snit's
>>>>>> solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl
>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a
>>>>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually
>>>>>> selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution
>>>>>> -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for more
>>>>>> variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully automated
>>>>>> -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background:
>>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I
>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can show
>>>>>> SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the same
>>>>>> thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was
>>>>>> clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been
>>>>>> playing word games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able
>>>>>> to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their
>>>>>> capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets).
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully
>>>>> crafted your tests to show that.
>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter
>>>>> months but not so great during the summer months.
>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a
>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks.
>>>>> Ever.
>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of tasks
>>>>> that your Mac would trip over as well.
>>>>
>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again
>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."
>>>
>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily reminders of
>>> how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved productivity and
>>> error-reduction.
>>>
>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader...
>> 
>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said:
>> 
>>   ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again
>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug.""
>> 
>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux not
>> working like a Mac is a bug"
>> 
>> Bizzarro.
>>   
>> 
> 
> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as he 
> attributes it to me. That is simply a fact.

Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that RonB
made the statement he attributed to you.
You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written.
Are you retarded?
Suffering with dyslexia perhaps?
Maybe you are just a troll?
Either way you have my sympathies.

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#466059

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-09-06 12:42 +0000
Message-ID<gh9kD.1927$MJ2.1779@fx12.iad>
In reply to#466053
On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote:
>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called crap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there's been so much garbage code written in it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$
>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it on local machine ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better at
>>>>>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they
>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve*
>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve
>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past
>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have
>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux
>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online
>>>>>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now
>>>>>>> I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email.
>>>>>>> Just curious to see how you people would generally do it and how
>>>>>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might:
>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else:
>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but
>>>>>>> picked these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly
>>>>>>> before coming up with the task.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing
>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do
>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links,
>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active
>>>>>>> link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the
>>>>>>> exact same,
>>>>>>> of course):
>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated,
>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color
>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here:
>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's
>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing
>>>>>>> system. And still failed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the
>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go
>>>>>>> fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers
>>>>>>> of sound. My end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection
>>>>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate.
>>>>>>> Also have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and
>>>>>>> end the connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few
>>>>>>> took it on, but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN
>>>>>>> services, so makes sense why others have not done it! I did end up
>>>>>>> with a VPN service and once I had that the challenge was pretty
>>>>>>> trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course,
>>>>>>> much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each
>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each
>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl
>>>>>>> also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked).
>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting
>>>>>>> challenge and thought it was about special search results per OS.
>>>>>>> Weird.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could
>>>>>>> not find a good method).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of
>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of
>>>>>>> several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not
>>>>>>> only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me to do
>>>>>>> quick searches on ingredients and the like... something Owl was
>>>>>>> never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and Peter
>>>>>>> Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation
>>>>>>> and include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>.
>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl
>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a
>>>>>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid
>>>>>>> manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated
>>>>>>> my solution -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for
>>>>>>> more variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully
>>>>>>> automated -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background:
>>>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I
>>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can
>>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed
>>>>>>> the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>.
>>>>>>> This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how
>>>>>>> Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity over
>>>>>>> SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly
>>>>>>> overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be
>>>>>>> spreadsheets).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you
>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that.
>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during
>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months.
>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a
>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of
>>>>>> tasks. Ever.
>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of
>>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
>>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily
>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved
>>>> productivity and error-reduction.
>>>>
>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader...
>>> 
>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said:
>>> 
>>>   ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
>>>   again
>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug.""
>>> 
>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux not
>>> working like a Mac is a bug"
>>> 
>>> Bizzarro.
>>>   
>>>   
>>> 
>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as
>> he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact.
> 
> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that
> RonB made the statement he attributed to you.
> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written.
> Are you retarded?
> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps?
> Maybe you are just a troll?
> Either way you have my sympathies.

Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said.

-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#466062

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-06 06:00 -0700
Message-ID<dc5beb58-e7ff-4743-9247-8c7e7edfc429@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466059
On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 5:42:55 AM UTC-7, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote:
> > 
> >> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called crap
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there's been so much garbage code written in it...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> M$
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it on local machine ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better at
> >>>>>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they
> >>>>>>>>>>> *deserve*
> >>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve
> >>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
> >>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past
> >>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have
> >>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux
> >>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online
> >>>>>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now
> >>>>>>> I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email.
> >>>>>>> Just curious to see how you people would generally do it and how
> >>>>>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might:
> >>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
> >>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
> >>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else:
> >>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but
> >>>>>>> picked these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly
> >>>>>>> before coming up with the task.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing
> >>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do
> >>>>>>> here:
> >>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links,
> >>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active
> >>>>>>> link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the
> >>>>>>> exact same,
> >>>>>>> of course):
> >>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated,
> >>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color
> >>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here:
> >>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's
> >>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing
> >>>>>>> system. And still failed.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the
> >>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go
> >>>>>>> fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers
> >>>>>>> of sound. My end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection
> >>>>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate.
> >>>>>>> Also have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and
> >>>>>>> end the connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few
> >>>>>>> took it on, but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN
> >>>>>>> services, so makes sense why others have not done it! I did end up
> >>>>>>> with a VPN service and once I had that the challenge was pretty
> >>>>>>> trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course,
> >>>>>>> much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each
> >>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each
> >>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl
> >>>>>>> also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked).
> >>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting
> >>>>>>> challenge and thought it was about special search results per OS.
> >>>>>>> Weird.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
> >>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
> >>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could
> >>>>>>> not find a good method).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of
> >>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of
> >>>>>>> several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not
> >>>>>>> only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me to do
> >>>>>>> quick searches on ingredients and the like... something Owl was
> >>>>>>> never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and Peter
> >>>>>>> Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation
> >>>>>>> and include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>.
> >>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
> >>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl
> >>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a
> >>>>>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid
> >>>>>>> manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated
> >>>>>>> my solution -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for
> >>>>>>> more variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully
> >>>>>>> automated -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background:
> >>>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
> >>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
> >>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I
> >>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can
> >>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed
> >>>>>>> the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>.
> >>>>>>> This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how
> >>>>>>> Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity over
> >>>>>>> SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly
> >>>>>>> overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be
> >>>>>>> spreadsheets).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you
> >>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that.
> >>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during
> >>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months.
> >>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a
> >>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of
> >>>>>> tasks. Ever.
> >>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of
> >>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
> >>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily
> >>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved
> >>>> productivity and error-reduction.
> >>>>
> >>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader...
> >>> 
> >>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said:
> >>> 
> >>>   ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
> >>>   again
> >>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug.""
> >>> 
> >>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux not
> >>> working like a Mac is a bug"
> >>> 
> >>> Bizzarro.
> >>>   
> >>>   
> >>> 
> >> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as
> >> he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact.
> > 
> > Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that
> > RonB made the statement he attributed to you.
> > You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written.
> > Are you retarded?
> > Suffering with dyslexia perhaps?
> > Maybe you are just a troll?
> > Either way you have my sympathies.
> 
> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said.
> 
> -- 
> SilverSlimer
> FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
> Absolute centrist, proud Catholic



Both of those guys get their thrill out of provoking emotional responses to their lies, which is the very definition of a troll. 

Other than HWSNBN, who doesn't know what I am doing? 

My view is correct. Always correct. That's what HWSNBN does when he gets caught. He immediately creates a new identity, starts a thread so he can claim it was Sandman. Hey it was my left hand... and then HWSNBN responds to his own post with his right hand. I am not going to pretend Sandman didn't give me good advice on my network and I acknowledge it. HWSNBN has my example as an example and might begin to at least pretend he has a clue because of this... though he missed that opportunity when he trolled Sandman. 

With all the crowing HWSNBN has done on this topic, the 'Growth Hacker' doesn't know how to do this. It seriously takes a couple seconds to select text and 'PDF convert' it. After Sandman's update I no longer want to gouge out my eyeballs from the flicker of the screen. The bulk of the advocates in this group do application development either as a hobby or as a job, so I doubt more than a few consider automation to be "voodoo". 

--
Eight things to never feed your cat
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#466063

FromWilliam Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com>
Date2018-09-06 09:06 -0400
Message-ID<fvcn3bF268fU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#466059
On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 12:42:52 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote:
>> 
>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called crap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there's been so much garbage code written in it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it on local machine ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better at
>>>>>>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they
>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve*
>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve
>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past
>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have
>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux
>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online
>>>>>>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now
>>>>>>>> I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email.
>>>>>>>> Just curious to see how you people would generally do it and how
>>>>>>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might:
>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else:
>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but
>>>>>>>> picked these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly
>>>>>>>> before coming up with the task.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing
>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do
>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links,
>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active
>>>>>>>> link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the
>>>>>>>> exact same,
>>>>>>>> of course):
>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated,
>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color
>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here:
>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's
>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing
>>>>>>>> system. And still failed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the
>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go
>>>>>>>> fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers
>>>>>>>> of sound. My end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection
>>>>>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate.
>>>>>>>> Also have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and
>>>>>>>> end the connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few
>>>>>>>> took it on, but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN
>>>>>>>> services, so makes sense why others have not done it! I did end up
>>>>>>>> with a VPN service and once I had that the challenge was pretty
>>>>>>>> trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course,
>>>>>>>> much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each
>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each
>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl
>>>>>>>> also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked).
>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting
>>>>>>>> challenge and thought it was about special search results per OS.
>>>>>>>> Weird.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could
>>>>>>>> not find a good method).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of
>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of
>>>>>>>> several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not
>>>>>>>> only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me to do
>>>>>>>> quick searches on ingredients and the like... something Owl was
>>>>>>>> never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and Peter
>>>>>>>> Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation
>>>>>>>> and include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>.
>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl
>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a
>>>>>>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid
>>>>>>>> manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated
>>>>>>>> my solution -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for
>>>>>>>> more variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully
>>>>>>>> automated -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background:
>>>>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I
>>>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can
>>>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed
>>>>>>>> the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>.
>>>>>>>> This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how
>>>>>>>> Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity over
>>>>>>>> SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly
>>>>>>>> overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be
>>>>>>>> spreadsheets).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you
>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that.
>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during
>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months.
>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a
>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of
>>>>>>> tasks. Ever.
>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of
>>>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
>>>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily
>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved
>>>>> productivity and error-reduction.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader...
>>>> 
>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said:
>>>> 
>>>>   ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
>>>>   again
>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug.""
>>>> 
>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux not
>>>> working like a Mac is a bug"
>>>> 
>>>> Bizzarro.
>>>>   
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as
>>> he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact.
>> 
>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that
>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you.
>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written.
>> Are you retarded?
>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps?
>> Maybe you are just a troll?
>> Either way you have my sympathies.
> 
> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said.

Thank you for pointing that out.
I will bin him.

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#466065

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-06 06:33 -0700
Message-ID<9b103272-1335-4fca-b5b0-89f5c0510d70@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466063
On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 6:06:54 AM UTC-7, William Barnes wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 12:42:52 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
> > 
> >> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called crap
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there's been so much garbage code written in it...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it on local machine ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better at
> >>>>>>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they
> >>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve*
> >>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve
> >>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
> >>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past
> >>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have
> >>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux
> >>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online
> >>>>>>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now
> >>>>>>>> I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email.
> >>>>>>>> Just curious to see how you people would generally do it and how
> >>>>>>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might:
> >>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
> >>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
> >>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else:
> >>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but
> >>>>>>>> picked these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly
> >>>>>>>> before coming up with the task.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing
> >>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do
> >>>>>>>> here:
> >>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links,
> >>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active
> >>>>>>>> link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the
> >>>>>>>> exact same,
> >>>>>>>> of course):
> >>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated,
> >>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color
> >>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here:
> >>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's
> >>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing
> >>>>>>>> system. And still failed.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the
> >>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go
> >>>>>>>> fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers
> >>>>>>>> of sound. My end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection
> >>>>>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate.
> >>>>>>>> Also have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and
> >>>>>>>> end the connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few
> >>>>>>>> took it on, but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN
> >>>>>>>> services, so makes sense why others have not done it! I did end up
> >>>>>>>> with a VPN service and once I had that the challenge was pretty
> >>>>>>>> trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course,
> >>>>>>>> much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each
> >>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each
> >>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl
> >>>>>>>> also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked).
> >>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting
> >>>>>>>> challenge and thought it was about special search results per OS.
> >>>>>>>> Weird.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
> >>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
> >>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could
> >>>>>>>> not find a good method).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of
> >>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of
> >>>>>>>> several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not
> >>>>>>>> only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me to do
> >>>>>>>> quick searches on ingredients and the like... something Owl was
> >>>>>>>> never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and Peter
> >>>>>>>> Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation
> >>>>>>>> and include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>.
> >>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
> >>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl
> >>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a
> >>>>>>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid
> >>>>>>>> manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated
> >>>>>>>> my solution -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for
> >>>>>>>> more variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully
> >>>>>>>> automated -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background:
> >>>>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
> >>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
> >>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I
> >>>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can
> >>>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed
> >>>>>>>> the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>.
> >>>>>>>> This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how
> >>>>>>>> Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity over
> >>>>>>>> SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly
> >>>>>>>> overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be
> >>>>>>>> spreadsheets).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you
> >>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that.
> >>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during
> >>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months.
> >>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a
> >>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of
> >>>>>>> tasks. Ever.
> >>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of
> >>>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
> >>>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily
> >>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved
> >>>>> productivity and error-reduction.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader...
> >>>> 
> >>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said:
> >>>> 
> >>>>   ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
> >>>>   again
> >>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug.""
> >>>> 
> >>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux not
> >>>> working like a Mac is a bug"
> >>>> 
> >>>> Bizzarro.
> >>>>   
> >>>>   
> >>>> 
> >>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as
> >>> he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact.
> >> 
> >> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that
> >> RonB made the statement he attributed to you.
> >> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written.
> >> Are you retarded?
> >> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps?
> >> Maybe you are just a troll?
> >> Either way you have my sympathies.
> > 
> > Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said.
> 
> Thank you for pointing that out.
> I will bin him.



It's his problem but he blames Desk Rabbit. Obviously he would rather blame others than face reality. So many advocates are still talking about the LXQt "CLI" as if that even potentially is something we would want. 

Several of us reported him years ago. As expected, it did nothing to stop the fool. Desk Rabbit clearly has a heap of proficiency to show and he could learn to write tutorials. Sadly this is I think the most frustrating venue for doing that because the majority of response is screaming, double-crossing, and other baloney. Can you stop asking for my attention? Protected code is makes it harder to work on a project. 

You installed and read multiple reviews and your "intuitions" lead you to that conclusion, did they? Don't look now, but I think Larry Washington has a serious fascination with Desk Rabbit. 

-- 
This broke the Internet!!
http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/BilkHelp.html
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.lang.c/KDQrv8appR8
http://jeff-relf.me/Cola_Regs.HTM
Jonas Eklundh Communication AB

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#466074

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-09-06 07:30 -0700
Message-ID<fvcrvnF351jU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#466063
On 9/6/18 6:06 AM, William Barnes wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 12:42:52 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called crap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there's been so much garbage code written in it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it on local machine ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve
>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
>>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past
>>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have
>>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux
>>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online
>>>>>>>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now
>>>>>>>>> I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email.
>>>>>>>>> Just curious to see how you people would generally do it and how
>>>>>>>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might:
>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
>>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
>>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else:
>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but
>>>>>>>>> picked these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly
>>>>>>>>> before coming up with the task.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing
>>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do
>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links,
>>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active
>>>>>>>>> link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the
>>>>>>>>> exact same,
>>>>>>>>> of course):
>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated,
>>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color
>>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here:
>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's
>>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing
>>>>>>>>> system. And still failed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the
>>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go
>>>>>>>>> fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers
>>>>>>>>> of sound. My end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection
>>>>>>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate.
>>>>>>>>> Also have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and
>>>>>>>>> end the connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few
>>>>>>>>> took it on, but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN
>>>>>>>>> services, so makes sense why others have not done it! I did end up
>>>>>>>>> with a VPN service and once I had that the challenge was pretty
>>>>>>>>> trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course,
>>>>>>>>> much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each
>>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each
>>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl
>>>>>>>>> also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked).
>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting
>>>>>>>>> challenge and thought it was about special search results per OS.
>>>>>>>>> Weird.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
>>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
>>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could
>>>>>>>>> not find a good method).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of
>>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of
>>>>>>>>> several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not
>>>>>>>>> only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me to do
>>>>>>>>> quick searches on ingredients and the like... something Owl was
>>>>>>>>> never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and Peter
>>>>>>>>> Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation
>>>>>>>>> and include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>.
>>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
>>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl
>>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a
>>>>>>>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid
>>>>>>>>> manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated
>>>>>>>>> my solution -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for
>>>>>>>>> more variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully
>>>>>>>>> automated -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background:
>>>>>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
>>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
>>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I
>>>>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can
>>>>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed
>>>>>>>>> the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>.
>>>>>>>>> This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how
>>>>>>>>> Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity over
>>>>>>>>> SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly
>>>>>>>>> overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be
>>>>>>>>> spreadsheets).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you
>>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that.
>>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during
>>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months.
>>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a
>>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of
>>>>>>>> tasks. Ever.
>>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of
>>>>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
>>>>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily
>>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved
>>>>>> productivity and error-reduction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader...
>>>>>
>>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said:
>>>>>
>>>>>    ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
>>>>>    again
>>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug.""
>>>>>
>>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux not
>>>>> working like a Mac is a bug"
>>>>>
>>>>> Bizzarro.
>>>>>    
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as
>>>> he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact.
>>>
>>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that
>>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you.
>>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written.
>>> Are you retarded?
>>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps?
>>> Maybe you are just a troll?
>>> Either way you have my sympathies.
>>
>> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said.
> 
> Thank you for pointing that out.
> I will bin him.
> 

THANK YOU! Now please do. And stop obsessing over me under ANY of your 
names.

As if!

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#466137

FromWilliam Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com>
Date2018-09-06 23:23 +0000
Message-ID<pmsctb$m7s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#466063
On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 09:06:50 -0400, William Barnes wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 12:42:52 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap because there's been so much garbage code written in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run it on local machine ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve
>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
>>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past
>>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have
>>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux
>>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan,
>>>>>>>>> online map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with
>>>>>>>>> annotations. Now I know this can be done on Linux; save, open,
>>>>>>>>> annotate, email. Just curious to see how you people would
>>>>>>>>> generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A
>>>>>>>>> couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
>>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
>>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something
>>>>>>>>> else: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options
>>>>>>>>> but picked these because they fit the real-world example I did
>>>>>>>>> shortly before coming up with the task.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing
>>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do
>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links,
>>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active
>>>>>>>>> link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look
>>>>>>>>> the exact same,
>>>>>>>>> of course):
>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated,
>>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color
>>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here:
>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's
>>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing
>>>>>>>>> system. And still failed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the
>>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a
>>>>>>>>> come-and-go fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add
>>>>>>>>> multiple layers of sound. My end result here:
>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the
>>>>>>>>> connection terminates the applications using that connection
>>>>>>>>> also terminate. Also have the script detect apps not wanted to
>>>>>>>>> go over the VPN and end the connection when appropriate.
>>>>>>>>> Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but Marek says he pays
>>>>>>>>> about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why others
>>>>>>>>> have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I had
>>>>>>>>> that the challenge was pretty trivial:
>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much
>>>>>>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each
>>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each
>>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl
>>>>>>>>> also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it
>>>>>>>>> worked).
>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive /
>>>>>>>>> scripting challenge and thought it was about special search
>>>>>>>>> results per OS. Weird.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
>>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
>>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they
>>>>>>>>> could not find a good method).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of
>>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one
>>>>>>>>> of several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine
>>>>>>>>> not only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me
>>>>>>>>> to do quick searches on ingredients and the like... something
>>>>>>>>> Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and
>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder
>>>>>>>>> creation and include some questions. Owl's solution:
>>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/BjHo>.
>>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
>>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl
>>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects
>>>>>>>>> a launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid
>>>>>>>>> manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I
>>>>>>>>> automated my solution -- can use exact colors from images or
>>>>>>>>> approximate for more variability (and sets text color based on
>>>>>>>>> brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation of 50 with
>>>>>>>>> changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
>>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
>>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I
>>>>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can
>>>>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed
>>>>>>>>> the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>.
>>>>>>>>> This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given
>>>>>>>>> how Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity
>>>>>>>>> over SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they
>>>>>>>>> hardly overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be
>>>>>>>>> spreadsheets).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you
>>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that.
>>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during
>>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months.
>>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a
>>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of
>>>>>>>> tasks. Ever.
>>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of
>>>>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
>>>>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily
>>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved
>>>>>> productivity and error-reduction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader...
>>>>> 
>>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind
>>>>>   you again
>>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug.""
>>>>> 
>>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux
>>>>> not working like a Mac is a bug"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bizzarro.
>>>>>   
>>>>>   
>>>>>   
>>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as
>>>> he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact.
>>> 
>>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that
>>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you.
>>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written.
>>> Are you retarded?
>>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps?
>>> Maybe you are just a troll?
>>> Either way you have my sympathies.
>> 
>> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said.
> 
> Thank you for pointing that out.
> I will bin him.

I binned that troll years ago. He's a psychopath.

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#466143

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-09-06 23:48 +0000
Message-ID<Y0jkD.12593$SG2.11584@fx29.iad>
In reply to#466137
On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:23:23 +0000, William Poaster wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 09:06:50 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 12:42:52 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap because there's been so much garbage code written
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run it on local machine ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past
>>>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have
>>>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux
>>>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan,
>>>>>>>>>> online map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with
>>>>>>>>>> annotations. Now I know this can be done on Linux; save, open,
>>>>>>>>>> annotate, email. Just curious to see how you people would
>>>>>>>>>> generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A
>>>>>>>>>> couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
>>>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
>>>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something
>>>>>>>>>> else: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options
>>>>>>>>>> but picked these because they fit the real-world example I did
>>>>>>>>>> shortly before coming up with the task.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing
>>>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to
>>>>>>>>>> do here:
>>>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all
>>>>>>>>>> links,
>>>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a
>>>>>>>>>> active link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have
>>>>>>>>>> to look the exact same,
>>>>>>>>>> of course):
>>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated,
>>>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color
>>>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here:
>>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's
>>>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing
>>>>>>>>>> system. And still failed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the
>>>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a
>>>>>>>>>> come-and-go fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add
>>>>>>>>>> multiple layers of sound. My end result here:
>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the
>>>>>>>>>> connection terminates the applications using that connection
>>>>>>>>>> also terminate. Also have the script detect apps not wanted to
>>>>>>>>>> go over the VPN and end the connection when appropriate.
>>>>>>>>>> Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but Marek says he pays
>>>>>>>>>> about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why others
>>>>>>>>>> have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I
>>>>>>>>>> had that the challenge was pretty trivial:
>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much
>>>>>>>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each
>>>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each
>>>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>.
>>>>>>>>>> Owl also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it
>>>>>>>>>> worked).
>>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive /
>>>>>>>>>> scripting challenge and thought it was about special search
>>>>>>>>>> results per OS. Weird.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
>>>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
>>>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they
>>>>>>>>>> could not find a good method).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of
>>>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one
>>>>>>>>>> of several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine
>>>>>>>>>> not only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me
>>>>>>>>>> to do quick searches on ingredients and the like... something
>>>>>>>>>> Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and
>>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder
>>>>>>>>>> creation and include some questions. Owl's solution:
>>>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/BjHo>.
>>>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
>>>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl
>>>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then
>>>>>>>>>> selects a launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him
>>>>>>>>>> avoid manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I
>>>>>>>>>> automated my solution -- can use exact colors from images or
>>>>>>>>>> approximate for more variability (and sets text color based on
>>>>>>>>>> brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation of 50 with
>>>>>>>>>> changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
>>>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
>>>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often).
>>>>>>>>>> I challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he
>>>>>>>>>> can show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I
>>>>>>>>>> showed the same thing, but in Numbers:
>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a sucker's
>>>>>>>>>> bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing word
>>>>>>>>>> games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able to do
>>>>>>>>>> what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their
>>>>>>>>>> capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you
>>>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that.
>>>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during
>>>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months.
>>>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a
>>>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of
>>>>>>>>> tasks. Ever.
>>>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list
>>>>>>>>> of tasks that your Mac would trip over as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind
>>>>>>>> you again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a
>>>>>>>> "bug."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily
>>>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved
>>>>>>> productivity and error-reduction.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind
>>>>>>   you again
>>>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug.""
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux
>>>>>> not working like a Mac is a bug"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bizzarro.
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>   
>>>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even
>>>>> as he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact.
>>>> 
>>>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that
>>>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you.
>>>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written.
>>>> Are you retarded?
>>>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps?
>>>> Maybe you are just a troll?
>>>> Either way you have my sympathies.
>>> 
>>> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said.
>> 
>> Thank you for pointing that out.
>> I will bin him.
> 
> I binned that troll years ago. He's a psychopath.

I truly don't believe that there is any doubt about it anymore.

-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#466173

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-09-06 21:51 -0700
Message-ID<fveeepFd20iU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#466143
On 9/6/18 4:48 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:23:23 +0000, William Poaster wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 09:06:50 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 12:42:52 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap because there's been so much garbage code written
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run it on local machine ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past
>>>>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have
>>>>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux
>>>>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan,
>>>>>>>>>>> online map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with
>>>>>>>>>>> annotations. Now I know this can be done on Linux; save, open,
>>>>>>>>>>> annotate, email. Just curious to see how you people would
>>>>>>>>>>> generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A
>>>>>>>>>>> couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
>>>>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
>>>>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something
>>>>>>>>>>> else: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options
>>>>>>>>>>> but picked these because they fit the real-world example I did
>>>>>>>>>>> shortly before coming up with the task.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing
>>>>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to
>>>>>>>>>>> do here:
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all
>>>>>>>>>>> links,
>>>>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a
>>>>>>>>>>> active link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have
>>>>>>>>>>> to look the exact same,
>>>>>>>>>>> of course):
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated,
>>>>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color
>>>>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here:
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's
>>>>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing
>>>>>>>>>>> system. And still failed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the
>>>>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a
>>>>>>>>>>> come-and-go fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add
>>>>>>>>>>> multiple layers of sound. My end result here:
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the
>>>>>>>>>>> connection terminates the applications using that connection
>>>>>>>>>>> also terminate. Also have the script detect apps not wanted to
>>>>>>>>>>> go over the VPN and end the connection when appropriate.
>>>>>>>>>>> Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but Marek says he pays
>>>>>>>>>>> about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why others
>>>>>>>>>>> have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I
>>>>>>>>>>> had that the challenge was pretty trivial:
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much
>>>>>>>>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each
>>>>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each
>>>>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>.
>>>>>>>>>>> Owl also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it
>>>>>>>>>>> worked).
>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive /
>>>>>>>>>>> scripting challenge and thought it was about special search
>>>>>>>>>>> results per OS. Weird.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
>>>>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
>>>>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they
>>>>>>>>>>> could not find a good method).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of
>>>>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one
>>>>>>>>>>> of several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine
>>>>>>>>>>> not only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me
>>>>>>>>>>> to do quick searches on ingredients and the like... something
>>>>>>>>>>> Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and
>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder
>>>>>>>>>>> creation and include some questions. Owl's solution:
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/BjHo>.
>>>>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
>>>>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl
>>>>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then
>>>>>>>>>>> selects a launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him
>>>>>>>>>>> avoid manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I
>>>>>>>>>>> automated my solution -- can use exact colors from images or
>>>>>>>>>>> approximate for more variability (and sets text color based on
>>>>>>>>>>> brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation of 50 with
>>>>>>>>>>> changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
>>>>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
>>>>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often).
>>>>>>>>>>> I challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he
>>>>>>>>>>> can show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I
>>>>>>>>>>> showed the same thing, but in Numbers:
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a sucker's
>>>>>>>>>>> bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing word
>>>>>>>>>>> games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able to do
>>>>>>>>>>> what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their
>>>>>>>>>>> capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you
>>>>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that.
>>>>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during
>>>>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months.
>>>>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a
>>>>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of
>>>>>>>>>> tasks. Ever.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list
>>>>>>>>>> of tasks that your Mac would trip over as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind
>>>>>>>>> you again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a
>>>>>>>>> "bug."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily
>>>>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved
>>>>>>>> productivity and error-reduction.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind
>>>>>>>    you again
>>>>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug.""
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux
>>>>>>> not working like a Mac is a bug"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bizzarro.
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even
>>>>>> as he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that
>>>>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you.
>>>>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written.
>>>>> Are you retarded?
>>>>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps?
>>>>> Maybe you are just a troll?
>>>>> Either way you have my sympathies.
>>>>
>>>> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said.
>>>
>>> Thank you for pointing that out.
>>> I will bin him.
>>
>> I binned that troll years ago. He's a psychopath.
> 
> I truly don't believe that there is any doubt about it anymore.
> 

Ah, I speak of tech and it freaks you out. OK.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#466170

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-09-06 21:50 -0700
Message-ID<fveebrFd20iU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#466137
On 9/6/18 4:23 PM, William Poaster wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 09:06:50 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 12:42:52 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crap because there's been so much garbage code written in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run it on local machine ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past
>>>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have
>>>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux
>>>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan,
>>>>>>>>>> online map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with
>>>>>>>>>> annotations. Now I know this can be done on Linux; save, open,
>>>>>>>>>> annotate, email. Just curious to see how you people would
>>>>>>>>>> generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A
>>>>>>>>>> couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
>>>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
>>>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something
>>>>>>>>>> else: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options
>>>>>>>>>> but picked these because they fit the real-world example I did
>>>>>>>>>> shortly before coming up with the task.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing
>>>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do
>>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links,
>>>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active
>>>>>>>>>> link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look
>>>>>>>>>> the exact same,
>>>>>>>>>> of course):
>>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated,
>>>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color
>>>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here:
>>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's
>>>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing
>>>>>>>>>> system. And still failed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the
>>>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a
>>>>>>>>>> come-and-go fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add
>>>>>>>>>> multiple layers of sound. My end result here:
>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the
>>>>>>>>>> connection terminates the applications using that connection
>>>>>>>>>> also terminate. Also have the script detect apps not wanted to
>>>>>>>>>> go over the VPN and end the connection when appropriate.
>>>>>>>>>> Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but Marek says he pays
>>>>>>>>>> about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why others
>>>>>>>>>> have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I had
>>>>>>>>>> that the challenge was pretty trivial:
>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much
>>>>>>>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each
>>>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each
>>>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl
>>>>>>>>>> also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it
>>>>>>>>>> worked).
>>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive /
>>>>>>>>>> scripting challenge and thought it was about special search
>>>>>>>>>> results per OS. Weird.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
>>>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
>>>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they
>>>>>>>>>> could not find a good method).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of
>>>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one
>>>>>>>>>> of several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine
>>>>>>>>>> not only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me
>>>>>>>>>> to do quick searches on ingredients and the like... something
>>>>>>>>>> Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and
>>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder
>>>>>>>>>> creation and include some questions. Owl's solution:
>>>>>>>>>> <https://vid.me/BjHo>.
>>>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
>>>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl
>>>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects
>>>>>>>>>> a launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid
>>>>>>>>>> manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I
>>>>>>>>>> automated my solution -- can use exact colors from images or
>>>>>>>>>> approximate for more variability (and sets text color based on
>>>>>>>>>> brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation of 50 with
>>>>>>>>>> changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
>>>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
>>>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I
>>>>>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can
>>>>>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed
>>>>>>>>>> the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>.
>>>>>>>>>> This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given
>>>>>>>>>> how Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity
>>>>>>>>>> over SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they
>>>>>>>>>> hardly overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be
>>>>>>>>>> spreadsheets).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you
>>>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that.
>>>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during
>>>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months.
>>>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a
>>>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of
>>>>>>>>> tasks. Ever.
>>>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of
>>>>>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
>>>>>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily
>>>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved
>>>>>>> productivity and error-reduction.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind
>>>>>>    you again
>>>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug.""
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux
>>>>>> not working like a Mac is a bug"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bizzarro.
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>    
>>>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as
>>>>> he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact.
>>>>
>>>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that
>>>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you.
>>>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written.
>>>> Are you retarded?
>>>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps?
>>>> Maybe you are just a troll?
>>>> Either way you have my sympathies.
>>>
>>> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said.
>>
>> Thank you for pointing that out.
>> I will bin him.
> 
> I binned that troll years ago. He's a psychopath.
> 

How dare I talk about tech!

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#466073

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-09-06 07:26 -0700
Message-ID<fvcrpaF351jU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#466059
On 9/6/18 5:42 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called crap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there's been so much garbage code written in it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it on local machine ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better at
>>>>>>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they
>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve*
>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve
>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past
>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have
>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux
>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online
>>>>>>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now
>>>>>>>> I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email.
>>>>>>>> Just curious to see how you people would generally do it and how
>>>>>>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might:
>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else:
>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but
>>>>>>>> picked these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly
>>>>>>>> before coming up with the task.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing
>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do
>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links,
>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active
>>>>>>>> link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the
>>>>>>>> exact same,
>>>>>>>> of course):
>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated,
>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color
>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here:
>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's
>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing
>>>>>>>> system. And still failed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the
>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go
>>>>>>>> fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers
>>>>>>>> of sound. My end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection
>>>>>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate.
>>>>>>>> Also have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and
>>>>>>>> end the connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few
>>>>>>>> took it on, but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN
>>>>>>>> services, so makes sense why others have not done it! I did end up
>>>>>>>> with a VPN service and once I had that the challenge was pretty
>>>>>>>> trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course,
>>>>>>>> much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each
>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each
>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl
>>>>>>>> also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked).
>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting
>>>>>>>> challenge and thought it was about special search results per OS.
>>>>>>>> Weird.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could
>>>>>>>> not find a good method).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of
>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of
>>>>>>>> several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not
>>>>>>>> only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me to do
>>>>>>>> quick searches on ingredients and the like... something Owl was
>>>>>>>> never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and Peter
>>>>>>>> Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation
>>>>>>>> and include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>.
>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl
>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a
>>>>>>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid
>>>>>>>> manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated
>>>>>>>> my solution -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for
>>>>>>>> more variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully
>>>>>>>> automated -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background:
>>>>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I
>>>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can
>>>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed
>>>>>>>> the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>.
>>>>>>>> This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how
>>>>>>>> Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity over
>>>>>>>> SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly
>>>>>>>> overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be
>>>>>>>> spreadsheets).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you
>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that.
>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during
>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months.
>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a
>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of
>>>>>>> tasks. Ever.
>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of
>>>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
>>>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily
>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved
>>>>> productivity and error-reduction.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader...
>>>>
>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said:
>>>>
>>>>    ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
>>>>    again
>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug.""
>>>>
>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux not
>>>> working like a Mac is a bug"
>>>>
>>>> Bizzarro.
>>>>    
>>>>    
>>>>
>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as
>>> he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact.
>>
>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that
>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you.
>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written.
>> Are you retarded?
>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps?
>> Maybe you are just a troll?
>> Either way you have my sympathies.
> 
> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said.
> 

And yet here we see RonB trolling me, me noting what HE said, Carroll 
(or someone emulating his style) working to twist that and blow the 
minor issue out of proportion, and you jumping in to engage in insults 
(trolling).

COLA has become very predictable. It is not as though ANYONE could not 
see that those of you who troll these waters would ignore RonB's lie and 
cry about how I responded to his trolling in an honest way you do not like.

It is merely a fact that RonB is the one who talked about Linux not 
acting like a Mac being a "bug" for Linux. HE is the one who created 
this idea, or at least the one who posted it to COLA. The fact he 
falsely pushed HIS idea onto me does not change that. It is STILL his idea.

Forever more it will be completely fair to note RonB spoke of it being a 
"bug" for Linux to not act like a Mac... unless he admits his comment 
was an error.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#466077

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-06 07:51 -0700
Message-ID<36a23509-7f50-44c0-b553-612f5495ef1f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#466073
On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 7:26:54 AM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> On 9/6/18 5:42 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> > On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
> > 
> >> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called crap
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there's been so much garbage code written in it...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it on local machine ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better at
> >>>>>>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they
> >>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve*
> >>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve
> >>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
> >>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past
> >>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have
> >>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux
> >>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online
> >>>>>>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now
> >>>>>>>> I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email.
> >>>>>>>> Just curious to see how you people would generally do it and how
> >>>>>>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might:
> >>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
> >>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
> >>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else:
> >>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but
> >>>>>>>> picked these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly
> >>>>>>>> before coming up with the task.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing
> >>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do
> >>>>>>>> here:
> >>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links,
> >>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active
> >>>>>>>> link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the
> >>>>>>>> exact same,
> >>>>>>>> of course):
> >>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated,
> >>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color
> >>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here:
> >>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's
> >>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing
> >>>>>>>> system. And still failed.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the
> >>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go
> >>>>>>>> fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers
> >>>>>>>> of sound. My end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection
> >>>>>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate.
> >>>>>>>> Also have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and
> >>>>>>>> end the connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few
> >>>>>>>> took it on, but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN
> >>>>>>>> services, so makes sense why others have not done it! I did end up
> >>>>>>>> with a VPN service and once I had that the challenge was pretty
> >>>>>>>> trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course,
> >>>>>>>> much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each
> >>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each
> >>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl
> >>>>>>>> also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked).
> >>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting
> >>>>>>>> challenge and thought it was about special search results per OS.
> >>>>>>>> Weird.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
> >>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
> >>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could
> >>>>>>>> not find a good method).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of
> >>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of
> >>>>>>>> several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not
> >>>>>>>> only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me to do
> >>>>>>>> quick searches on ingredients and the like... something Owl was
> >>>>>>>> never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and Peter
> >>>>>>>> Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation
> >>>>>>>> and include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>.
> >>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
> >>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl
> >>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a
> >>>>>>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid
> >>>>>>>> manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated
> >>>>>>>> my solution -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for
> >>>>>>>> more variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully
> >>>>>>>> automated -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background:
> >>>>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
> >>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
> >>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I
> >>>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can
> >>>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed
> >>>>>>>> the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>.
> >>>>>>>> This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how
> >>>>>>>> Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity over
> >>>>>>>> SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly
> >>>>>>>> overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be
> >>>>>>>> spreadsheets).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you
> >>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that.
> >>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during
> >>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months.
> >>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a
> >>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of
> >>>>>>> tasks. Ever.
> >>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of
> >>>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
> >>>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily
> >>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved
> >>>>> productivity and error-reduction.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader...
> >>>>
> >>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said:
> >>>>
> >>>>    ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
> >>>>    again
> >>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug.""
> >>>>
> >>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux not
> >>>> working like a Mac is a bug"
> >>>>
> >>>> Bizzarro.
> >>>>    
> >>>>    
> >>>>
> >>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as
> >>> he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact.
> >>
> >> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that
> >> RonB made the statement he attributed to you.
> >> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written.
> >> Are you retarded?
> >> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps?
> >> Maybe you are just a troll?
> >> Either way you have my sympathies.
> > 
> > Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said.
> > 
> 
> And yet here we see RonB trolling me, me noting what HE said, Carroll 
> (or someone emulating his style) working to twist that and blow the 
> minor issue out of proportion, and you jumping in to engage in insults 
> (trolling).
> 
> COLA has become very predictable. It is not as though ANYONE could not 
> see that those of you who troll these waters would ignore RonB's lie and 
> cry about how I responded to his trolling in an honest way you do not like.
> 
> It is merely a fact that RonB is the one who talked about Linux not 
> acting like a Mac being a "bug" for Linux. HE is the one who created 
> this idea, or at least the one who posted it to COLA. The fact he 
> falsely pushed HIS idea onto me does not change that. It is STILL his idea.
> 
> Forever more it will be completely fair to note RonB spoke of it being a 
> "bug" for Linux to not act like a Mac... unless he admits his comment 
> was an error.
> 
> -- 
> Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
> cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
> somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
> 
> They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> 
> <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>



A shadow of observation, projected spontaneously, at the wrong time. Jeff 'The Shill' Relf.Me is commonly seen posting "I KNOW BETTER" when it comes to info on the web where information does exist... but Jeff 'The Shill' Relf.Me is just too dense and distracted to interpret any information he sees... or he doesn't recognize it *as* info even when he does read it. 

Seriously, what lie? For most I would simply suspect the comment is dubious. Given that it's Jeff 'The Shill' Relf.Me I would drop that doubt and go straight to 'lie' because that's most of what Jeff 'The Shill' Relf.Me does. Innocent until proven guilty does not apply to Jeff 'The Shill' Relf.Me. 



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#466120

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2018-09-06 22:39 +0200
Message-ID<pms3a9$l0r$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#466059
SilverSlimer wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote:
>> 
>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called crap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there's been so much garbage code written in it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it on local machine ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better at
>>>>>>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they
>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve*
>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve
>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past
>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have
>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux
>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online
>>>>>>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now
>>>>>>>> I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email.
>>>>>>>> Just curious to see how you people would generally do it and how
>>>>>>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might:
>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else:
>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but
>>>>>>>> picked these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly
>>>>>>>> before coming up with the task.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing
>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do
>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links,
>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active
>>>>>>>> link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the
>>>>>>>> exact same,
>>>>>>>> of course):
>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated,
>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color
>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here:
>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's
>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing
>>>>>>>> system. And still failed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the
>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go
>>>>>>>> fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers
>>>>>>>> of sound. My end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection
>>>>>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate.
>>>>>>>> Also have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and
>>>>>>>> end the connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few
>>>>>>>> took it on, but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN
>>>>>>>> services, so makes sense why others have not done it! I did end up
>>>>>>>> with a VPN service and once I had that the challenge was pretty
>>>>>>>> trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course,
>>>>>>>> much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each
>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each
>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl
>>>>>>>> also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked).
>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting
>>>>>>>> challenge and thought it was about special search results per OS.
>>>>>>>> Weird.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could
>>>>>>>> not find a good method).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of
>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of
>>>>>>>> several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not
>>>>>>>> only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me to do
>>>>>>>> quick searches on ingredients and the like... something Owl was
>>>>>>>> never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and Peter
>>>>>>>> Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation
>>>>>>>> and include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>.
>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl
>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a
>>>>>>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid
>>>>>>>> manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated
>>>>>>>> my solution -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for
>>>>>>>> more variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully
>>>>>>>> automated -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background:
>>>>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I
>>>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can
>>>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed
>>>>>>>> the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>.
>>>>>>>> This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how
>>>>>>>> Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity over
>>>>>>>> SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly
>>>>>>>> overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be
>>>>>>>> spreadsheets).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you
>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that.
>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during
>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months.
>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a
>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of
>>>>>>> tasks. Ever.
>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of
>>>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
>>>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily
>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved
>>>>> productivity and error-reduction.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader...
>>>> 
>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said:
>>>> 
>>>>   ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
>>>>   again
>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug.""
>>>> 
>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux not
>>>> working like a Mac is a bug"
>>>> 
>>>> Bizzarro.
>>>>   
>>>>   
>>>> 
>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as
>>> he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact.
>> 
>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that
>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you.
>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written.
>> Are you retarded?
>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps?
>> Maybe you are just a troll?
>> Either way you have my sympathies.
> 
> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said.

Lying imbecile from Prescott AZ would be more to the point.
Not to mention that Snit Michael Glasser squanders the little income of his 
wife in order to troll usenet 24/7. Most of it for adult diapers to stay 
near the computer. To hell with his children. Their needs are not any of his 
concerns

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#466121

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-09-06 13:54 -0700
Message-ID<fvdif8F7s9kU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#466120
On 9/6/18 1:39 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> SilverSlimer wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 08:13:12 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 21:31:38 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/5/18 10:34 AM, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:44:23 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 23:49:37 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avoided. This is like Php, which has also been called crap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because there's been so much garbage code written in it...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any language can be misused.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Heck,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M$
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it on local machine ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out?  :-D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well!  M$ is, of course, so much better at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *deserve*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve
>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
>>>>>>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past
>>>>>>>>>> but now provides a pretty stellar experience.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have
>>>>>>>>> been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux
>>>>>>>>> does show itself well. In others, not so much.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online
>>>>>>>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now
>>>>>>>>> I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email.
>>>>>>>>> Just curious to see how you people would generally do it and how
>>>>>>>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might:
>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
>>>>>>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area
>>>>>>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else:
>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but
>>>>>>>>> picked these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly
>>>>>>>>> before coming up with the task.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing
>>>>>>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do
>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links,
>>>>>>>>> the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active
>>>>>>>>> link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the
>>>>>>>>> exact same,
>>>>>>>>> of course):
>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated,
>>>>>>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color
>>>>>>>>> change with the bar. More details here:
>>>>>>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's
>>>>>>>>> solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing
>>>>>>>>> system. And still failed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the
>>>>>>>>> video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go
>>>>>>>>> fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers
>>>>>>>>> of sound. My end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection
>>>>>>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate.
>>>>>>>>> Also have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and
>>>>>>>>> end the connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few
>>>>>>>>> took it on, but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN
>>>>>>>>> services, so makes sense why others have not done it! I did end up
>>>>>>>>> with a VPN service and once I had that the challenge was pretty
>>>>>>>>> trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course,
>>>>>>>>> much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each
>>>>>>>>> letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each
>>>>>>>>> letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl
>>>>>>>>> also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked).
>>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting
>>>>>>>>> challenge and thought it was about special search results per OS.
>>>>>>>>> Weird.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
>>>>>>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
>>>>>>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could
>>>>>>>>> not find a good method).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of
>>>>>>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of
>>>>>>>>> several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not
>>>>>>>>> only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me to do
>>>>>>>>> quick searches on ingredients and the like... something Owl was
>>>>>>>>> never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and Peter
>>>>>>>>> Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation
>>>>>>>>> and include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>.
>>>>>>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
>>>>>>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl
>>>>>>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a
>>>>>>>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid
>>>>>>>>> manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated
>>>>>>>>> my solution -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for
>>>>>>>>> more variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully
>>>>>>>>> automated -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background:
>>>>>>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
>>>>>>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
>>>>>>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I
>>>>>>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can
>>>>>>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed
>>>>>>>>> the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>.
>>>>>>>>> This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how
>>>>>>>>> Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity over
>>>>>>>>> SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly
>>>>>>>>> overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be
>>>>>>>>> spreadsheets).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you
>>>>>>>> carefully crafted your tests to show that.
>>>>>>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during
>>>>>>>> winter months but not so great during the summer months.
>>>>>>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a
>>>>>>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of
>>>>>>>> tasks. Ever.
>>>>>>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of
>>>>>>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
>>>>>>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure how this newsgroup would function without daily
>>>>>> reminders of how everything Snit suggests would lead to improved
>>>>>> productivity and error-reduction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess we shouldn't have voted him in as our leader...
>>>>>
>>>>> He appears to be mentally retarded. Example, RonB said:
>>>>>
>>>>>    ""Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you
>>>>>    again
>>>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug.""
>>>>>
>>>>> Somehow the retard turns that statement into "RonB is saying Linux not
>>>>> working like a Mac is a bug"
>>>>>
>>>>> Bizzarro.
>>>>>    
>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>> RonB *did* come up with that idea. He is the one saying that, even as
>>>> he attributes it to me. That is simply a fact.
>>>
>>> Then you should have said it that way instead of trying to imply that
>>> RonB made the statement he attributed to you.
>>> You have an obtuse way of interpreting what is written.
>>> Are you retarded?
>>> Suffering with dyslexia perhaps?
>>> Maybe you are just a troll?
>>> Either way you have my sympathies.
>>
>> Snit = Ubertroll. That's all that needs to be said.
> 
> Lying imbecile from Prescott AZ would be more to the point.
> Not to mention that Snit Michael Glasser squanders the little income of his
> wife in order to troll usenet 24/7. Most of it for adult diapers to stay
> near the computer. To hell with his children. Their needs are not any of his
> concerns
> 

Wow... even for you that is a lot of anger at seeing tasks. Remember, I 
am focusing on tech... those of you who troll are freaking out about it.

You LOATH discussions of text.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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