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| First post | 2018-09-04 06:45 -0700 |
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Another Crypto Programming Challenge fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-04 06:45 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-04 13:59 +0000
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-04 07:25 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-04 15:05 +0000
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-04 08:30 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 08:47 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 09:00 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-04 16:21 +0000
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 09:26 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 02:44 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-04 09:58 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 10:37 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 05:06 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-05 16:37 +0000
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 10:03 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-05 10:26 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 09:43 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-05 10:36 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 10:45 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 11:02 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-05 12:35 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 12:52 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 14:50 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 15:13 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-05 22:34 +0000
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 15:59 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 00:33 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 00:02 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 09:35 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 09:55 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 12:52 -0500
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 11:18 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-05 11:23 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-05 11:38 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 11:49 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 12:04 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-05 11:48 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:28 -0700
Re: Another Crypto Programming Challenge Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 08:47 -0700
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| From | fr314159@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 12:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <88bc66e7-9b05-4678-988f-ceb93d9e6a04@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465965 |
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 1:45:51 PM UTC-4, Steve Carroll wrote: > > as a wild guess I'd suspect it > has to do with it being less likely to be noticed there. > The eye is least sensitive to changes in blue light intensity -- but it really doesn't matter. The sender will take a photograph that will be unique in the universe. No one else will know what it is supposed to look like. The issue is plausible deniability. Sending someone in another country (say Iran) a series of photos could be claimed to be nothing more than a visual diary. The question of why TIFF format when JPEG is the norm could be answered by stating that TIFF is more faithful, but this may appear to be too obsessive and unlikely. But then these are compressed TIFF files. Using 16-bit per channel TIFF files would be even better. The entire lower 8-bits could be used without much noticeable change in the image. But these files are almost impossible to compress. There could also be an insertion of "decoy" bytes in the message. That is the message could be padded to prevent determination of the actual message length. The position of the "decoys" could be specified, again in a secret pre-arranged fashion, by some number series. There are all sorts of other possibilities as well. Start rolling your own encryption now.
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 12:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b38959a8-f872-4af1-8573-e532a36247c8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465979 |
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 12:35:14 PM UTC-7, fr31...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 1:45:51 PM UTC-4, Steve Carroll wrote: > > > > > as a wild guess I'd suspect it > > has to do with it being less likely to be noticed there. > > > > The eye is least sensitive to changes in blue light intensity -- > but it really doesn't matter. The sender will take a photograph > that will be unique in the universe. No one else will know what > it is supposed to look like. > > The issue is plausible deniability. Sending someone in another > country (say Iran) a series of photos could be claimed to be nothing > more than a visual diary. The question of why TIFF format when > JPEG is the norm could be answered by stating that TIFF is more > faithful, but this may appear to be too obsessive and unlikely. > But then these are compressed TIFF files. > > Using 16-bit per channel TIFF files would be even better. The entire > lower 8-bits could be used without much noticeable change in the image. > But these files are almost impossible to compress. > > There could also be an insertion of "decoy" bytes in the message. > That is the message could be padded to prevent determination of the > actual message length. The position of the "decoys" could be specified, > again in a secret pre-arranged fashion, by some number series. > > There are all sorts of other possibilities as well. > > Start rolling your own encryption now. You're like a school bus in a bike rack. We all see you there and wonder how you can be so stupid. And you're so foolish you keep doing it. This forum is a puss-filled cyst. Everyone is chrisv -- the oldest gag in the book. -- One Smart Penny http://tinyurl.com/proof-about-ebot http://www.5z8.info/how-to-build-a-bomb_o8n9lg_racist-raps Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 14:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e2ac82c5-0db9-46a4-9750-2d2e1cf59fbb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465979 |
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 1:35:14 PM UTC-6, fr31...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 1:45:51 PM UTC-4, Steve Carroll wrote: > > > > > as a wild guess I'd suspect it > > has to do with it being less likely to be noticed there. > > > > The eye is least sensitive to changes in blue light intensity -- > but it really doesn't matter. The sender will take a photograph > that will be unique in the universe. No one else will know what > it is supposed to look like. > > The issue is plausible deniability. Sending someone in another > country (say Iran) a series of photos could be claimed to be nothing > more than a visual diary. The question of why TIFF format when > JPEG is the norm could be answered by stating that TIFF is more > faithful, but this may appear to be too obsessive and unlikely. > But then these are compressed TIFF files. > > Using 16-bit per channel TIFF files would be even better. The entire > lower 8-bits could be used without much noticeable change in the image. > But these files are almost impossible to compress. > > There could also be an insertion of "decoy" bytes in the message. > That is the message could be padded to prevent determination of the > actual message length. The position of the "decoys" could be specified, > again in a secret pre-arranged fashion, by some number series. > > There are all sorts of other possibilities as well. > > Start rolling your own encryption now. So why use the blue channel?
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 15:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0781fc08-78c8-45ba-a5fb-c751b1f859f7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465993 |
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 2:50:37 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 1:35:14 PM UTC-6, fr31...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 1:45:51 PM UTC-4, Steve Carroll wrote: > > > > > > > > as a wild guess I'd suspect it > > > has to do with it being less likely to be noticed there. > > > > > > > The eye is least sensitive to changes in blue light intensity -- > > but it really doesn't matter. The sender will take a photograph > > that will be unique in the universe. No one else will know what > > it is supposed to look like. > > > > The issue is plausible deniability. Sending someone in another > > country (say Iran) a series of photos could be claimed to be nothing > > more than a visual diary. The question of why TIFF format when > > JPEG is the norm could be answered by stating that TIFF is more > > faithful, but this may appear to be too obsessive and unlikely. > > But then these are compressed TIFF files. > > > > Using 16-bit per channel TIFF files would be even better. The entire > > lower 8-bits could be used without much noticeable change in the image. > > But these files are almost impossible to compress. > > > > There could also be an insertion of "decoy" bytes in the message. > > That is the message could be padded to prevent determination of the > > actual message length. The position of the "decoys" could be specified, > > again in a secret pre-arranged fashion, by some number series. > > > > There are all sorts of other possibilities as well. > > > > Start rolling your own encryption now. > > So why use the blue channel? Both Klaus Schadenfreude and Onion Knight had their successes and their awkward moments. One played it as the effect of ghosts and didn't do anything too horrendous that could not be re-done in a way that made it look like he had a clue. Onion Knight suffers from waking lies so, to him, everything, even randomized bot posts, are "insults". Who DOESN'T know this? Is this for real? You used it and deleted competing systems and your "intuitions" lead you to that assumption, did they? Generally, Klaus Schadenfreude would not call a comment like Onion Knight's posts a fabrication right up until you refute it and Onion Knight responds with the nothing but repetition with one of his socks. Onion Knight doesn't have any idea what he is babbling about. -- "You'll notice how quickly he loses interest when everything is about him. He clearly wants the attention" Steven Petruzzellis, making the dumbest comment ever uttered.
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| From | "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 22:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmplmc0h9f@news1.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #465993 |
On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 14:50:35 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > > So why use the blue channel? > Because this is just an EXERCISE.
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 15:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ca45e90f-b449-4781-8c40-2171d0056cf0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465996 |
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 3:35:06 PM UTC-7, F. Russell wrote: > On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 14:50:35 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > > > > > So why use the blue channel? > > > > Because this is just an EXERCISE. Jonas Eklundh clearly has a ton of insight to contribute and he seems to want to share it. Unfortunately, this is perhaps the worst medium for doing that because the majority of the responses are insulting, word twisting and other rubbish. It is trivial to exaggerate by focusing on hardly any isolated examples different from what's truly representative. What holds more weight from an advocacy standpoint are the average values. Anyway, it won't matter because the name on a post means nothing, it's the content that counts. Time to blame the lack of many eyes! Don't look now, but I think Chris Ahlstrom has a serious brocrush on Jonas Eklundh. You refuse to take culpability for your own actions. Actions that are easily quoted. -- This Trick Gets Women Hot For You http://www.5z8.info/php-start_GPS_tracking-user_j3m3lg_whitepower Jonas Eklundh Communication
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 00:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f8386c1a-b5ff-44bb-81cb-25b5fdf8fb36@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465998 |
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 3:59:41 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 3:35:06 PM UTC-7, F. Russell wrote: > > On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 14:50:35 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > > > > > > > > So why use the blue channel? > > > > > > > Because this is just an EXERCISE. > > > > Jonas Eklundh clearly has a ton of insight to contribute and he seems to want to share it. Unfortunately, this is perhaps the worst medium for doing that because the majority of the responses are insulting, word twisting and other rubbish. It is trivial to exaggerate by focusing on hardly any isolated examples different from what's truly representative. What holds more weight from an advocacy standpoint are the average values. Anyway, it won't matter because the name on a post means nothing, it's the content that counts. Time to blame the lack of many eyes! > > Don't look now, but I think Chris Ahlstrom has a serious brocrush on Jonas Eklundh. You refuse to take culpability for your own actions. Actions that are easily quoted. > > > > -- > This Trick Gets Women Hot For You > http://www.5z8.info/php-start_GPS_tracking-user_j3m3lg_whitepower > Jonas Eklundh Communication Can ASCII characters be concatenated into a string with a logical connection to the "real" world; that is the question posed recently by those astonished at the fire-hose of nonsense from assorted google-posters and neck beard freaks. But why the added task to edit the DOM via ODBC connectivity in an embedded system? Predictably, Steven Petruzzellis didn't list this as part of his unsurprisingly ever increasing 'requirements' <eyeroll>. I am not going to play like Klaus Schadenfreude did not assist me on image editing and I acknowledge his help. Steven Petruzzellis has Klaus Schadenfreude to follow and could learn to appear like he has a clue from this day forward... of course he stumbled when he trolled Klaus Schadenfreude ;) Are you being like Steven Petruzzellis on purpose? The only way that I could disregard macOS's constant demand for maintenance because of dependency issues or flaky standards is if I consumed the constant supply of Kool Aid flavors its ads have been pushing since 2010. -- Curious how these posts are made? Email: fretwizzer@gmail.com
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 00:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b5350d97-106d-4e3d-bd67-ac026f2f1eba@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465996 |
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 3:35:06 PM UTC-7, F. Russell wrote: > On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 14:50:35 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > > > > > So why use the blue channel? > > > > Because this is just an EXERCISE. Does Troll Killer Snit even believe the bullshit Peter Köhlmann is posting? What's the group coming to when a Peter Köhlmann plea for attention can't get any responses... The content clearly is a bunch of gibbering Peter Köhlmann-like crap. 2+2= You likely think Debian handles the desktop well. Nope. Not compared to the competition. -- Do not click this link!! https://youtu.be/iztSc_msHuo Jonas Eklundh Communication
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 09:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b19ebf80-e7df-4549-b12f-123f01649de3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465996 |
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 4:35:06 PM UTC-6, F. Russell wrote: > On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 14:50:35 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > > > > > So why use the blue channel? > > > > Because this is just an EXERCISE. You wrote this.... "You didn't answer the question about why we are limiting this to the blue channel" - Feeb ... as if there was a reason (besides the idiocy you responded with above), so I gotta ask: Were you dropped on your head often as a child?
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 09:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <92102265-4c6b-477f-9d38-5ebaf965d77e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466085 |
On Thursday, September 6, 2018 at 9:35:24 AM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 4:35:06 PM UTC-6, F. Russell wrote: > > On Wed, 05 Sep 2018 14:50:35 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > > > > > > > > So why use the blue channel? > > > > > > > Because this is just an EXERCISE. > > You wrote this.... > > "You didn't answer the question about why we are limiting this to the blue channel" - Feeb > > ... as if there was a reason (besides the idiocy you responded with above), so I gotta ask: > > Were you dropped on your head often as a child? What does it take to end this? I bet Klaus Schadenfreude thinks his life was fun. Over and over, the demand is Klaus Schadenfreude wants to "talk tech", but Klaus Schadenfreude spends most of his time whining about "trolling". -- I Left My Husband & Daughter At Home And THIS happened http://www.5z8.info/gruesome-gunshot-wounds_t5z0au_cockdock.gif Jonas Eklundh
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 12:52 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mm50pdl44kt9u1pd2uk3u37tkcbsohe5jg@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #465964 |
fr314159@gmail.com wrote: >There is a growing push for "back doors" to be installed in >commercial encryption methods and people need to start using >their own stuff. No chance that people would make mistakes, doing that, thus leaving themselves vulnerable... Anyone capable of writing even the crudest encryption software is capable of taking an existing, popular, well-designed open-source encryption software, and checking it for "back doors". -- "Also, didja know some live Linux distros default the root password to 'root' when you install?!?!?!?!" - DumFSck, putting his ignorance on display
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 11:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7759fbdc-04ef-48f0-a263-3acd721cfee0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465967 |
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 10:52:36 AM UTC-7, chrisv wrote: > fr314159@gmail.com wrote: > > >There is a growing push for "back doors" to be installed in > >commercial encryption methods and people need to start using > >their own stuff. > > No chance that people would make mistakes, doing that, thus leaving > themselves vulnerable... > > Anyone capable of writing even the crudest encryption software is > capable of taking an existing, popular, well-designed open-source > encryption software, and checking it for "back doors". > > -- > "Also, didja know some live Linux distros default the root password to > 'root' when you install?!?!?!?!" - DumFSck, putting his ignorance on > display Jonas Eklundh Communication AB is just thrilled that Klaus Schadenfreude is on the other end. Imagine if Jonas Eklundh Communication AB walked up to a cow and delivered the punch line. It wouldn't be amusing in any way. Oh goodness, that is just tons of bitching. I have known autobots who argue better than you do. Who are you even talking to? Turns out Jonas Eklundh Communication AB's constant mentioning of Klaus Schadenfreude met that definition, so he accused Klaus Schadenfreude of making that up. How Jonas Eklundh Communication AB decides when to use his stupid flood script: http://usenet.sandman.net/misc/snit_flood. -- Live on Kickstarter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4xD43Khhkw http://www.5z8.info/horse-slaughter_w8c4en_launchexe Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | fr314159@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 11:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <56aa2237-6b7d-49e1-b4ea-b33511e6f402@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465967 |
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 1:52:36 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > > Anyone capable of writing even the crudest encryption software is > capable of taking an existing, popular, well-designed open-source > encryption software, and checking it for "back doors". > I don't think so. Current encryption involves very sophisticated mathematics and it would be almost impossible for a novice (like myself) to recognize any flaws. . But then FOSS has the best people on its side. Bruce Schneier and Daniel Bernstein, just to name two, are highly competent cryptologists who are active in GNU/Linux and FOSS. They, and others, will be the auditors of open software.
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| From | fr314159@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 11:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <03255880-bffa-4ead-b025-5d9618d2635b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465967 |
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 1:52:36 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > > No chance that people would make mistakes, doing that, thus leaving > themselves vulnerable... > That's correct. Provided that the particular algorithm is understood, encryption software written by novices (like myself) are just as good as any commercial product. But "home grown" encryption has the extra advantage of being also secure through obscurity. If messages using my first method, for example, are intercepted, the interceptor has no idea which of the many, many encryption methods is being used. My first method is similar to the "one time pad," which is a method PROVEN to be unbreakable. (This, though, depends on the quality of the pseudo-random numbers.) I recall an argument that I had with a poster (who has vanished) called Greycloud. That S.O.B scoffed at my assertion that a one-time-pad is PROVABLY unbreakable. He even scoffed at a formal proof (via a PDF file) that I posted. He was, not surprisingly a Microshit Winblows supporter. Those idiots have no knowledge of anything.
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 11:49 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a7f9a178-49fe-4d49-928b-544bedc7e934@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465972 |
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 11:38:54 AM UTC-7, fr31...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 1:52:36 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > > > > > No chance that people would make mistakes, doing that, thus leaving > > themselves vulnerable... > > > > That's correct. Provided that the particular algorithm is understood, > encryption software written by novices (like myself) are just as good > as any commercial product. > > But "home grown" encryption has the extra advantage of being also > secure through obscurity. If messages using my first method, for > example, are intercepted, the interceptor has no idea which of the > many, many encryption methods is being used. > > My first method is similar to the "one time pad," which is a method > PROVEN to be unbreakable. (This, though, depends on the quality of > the pseudo-random numbers.) > > I recall an argument that I had with a poster (who has vanished) called > Greycloud. That S.O.B scoffed at my assertion that a one-time-pad > is PROVABLY unbreakable. He even scoffed at a formal proof (via a > PDF file) that I posted. He was, not surprisingly a Microshit Winblows > supporter. Those idiots have no knowledge of anything. And what did Klaus Schadenfreude have to say about this miraculous, years long string of oddities? Most of the time he would try to push the advocates to believe they're real people who just happened to have all the tells of his socks. All makes total sense, NOT! Lots of idiots are now posting about the open source "GUI" as if they think it literally is something we would want. Wow! How did Klaus Schadenfreude get _so_ conceited he believes everything is about himself?? -- Curious how these posts are made? Email: fretwizzer@gmail.com
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 12:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f62c40f7-3dfa-42c3-af77-275c5398d0a3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465972 |
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 11:38:54 AM UTC-7, fr31...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 1:52:36 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > > > > > No chance that people would make mistakes, doing that, thus leaving > > themselves vulnerable... > > > > That's correct. Provided that the particular algorithm is understood, > encryption software written by novices (like myself) are just as good > as any commercial product. > > But "home grown" encryption has the extra advantage of being also > secure through obscurity. If messages using my first method, for > example, are intercepted, the interceptor has no idea which of the > many, many encryption methods is being used. > > My first method is similar to the "one time pad," which is a method > PROVEN to be unbreakable. (This, though, depends on the quality of > the pseudo-random numbers.) > > I recall an argument that I had with a poster (who has vanished) called > Greycloud. That S.O.B scoffed at my assertion that a one-time-pad > is PROVABLY unbreakable. He even scoffed at a formal proof (via a > PDF file) that I posted. He was, not surprisingly a Microshit Winblows > supporter. Those idiots have no knowledge of anything. Given how regularly it seems that Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh's post is some misquote of an observation Klaus Schadenfreude posted which had been a thrashing on Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh for something he did which was asinine/dishonest/etc... its clearly a common expression of Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh's deep rooted unease for having been so routinely crushed. When I first posted, I wanted to be fair and impartial. I gave Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh more than an intelligent person generally would. It's like a prank call. Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh has already decided what he is going to say before he calls. What you say doesn't matter. What Klaus Schadenfreude says is ignored. What Klaus Schadenfreude does is certainly technically correct. Now that Klaus Schadenfreude appreciated how convincing Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh is at playing 'target' he understands this isn't as bizarre as it sounded. Why does Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh focus on his own ego so much? I noted examples of Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh stating quotable lies -- holding me accountable for the actions of others, etc. His response: to troll Klaus Schadenfreude. You never take culpability for your own actions. Quotes that are easily quoted. -- One Smart Penny https://youtu.be/E3m_i-x92D0 https://redd.it/6sfhq6 Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | fr314159@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 11:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <20069627-4fde-4691-8803-10b7733fe7b3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465967 |
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 1:52:36 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > > No chance that people would make mistakes, doing that, thus leaving > themselves vulnerable... > Most current encryption products are designed to avoid having to pre-arrange "keys," "passcodes," and other bits of information that would be necessary to either encrypt or decrypt. No one wants to have secret face-to-face meetings with every party before any digital messages are exchanged. That's we have public keys (RSA) and Diffie-Hellman type key exchanges. But for any serious secret communication an initial pre-arrangement of some kind is absolutely necessary, and the simple methods that could be consequently employed would be accessible to most.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 21:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fvbon1FqpscU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #465953 |
On 9/5/18 9:43 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 10:58:27 AM UTC-6, fr31...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 12:21:33 PM UTC-4, owl wrote: >> >>> >>> anon@lowtide:~/code/stego$ cat steganopayload1575.txt;echo >>> Give it up, Feeb. >>> anon@lowtide:~/code/stego$ >>> >> >> He's just trying to weasel out of it because he knows that >> he can't do it. > > Weasel out? Where did I ever indicate I was in? My knowledge of this is > essentially zero, as it is for the C language (well, prior to this weekend it > was, I've started checking it out a bit). > You have repeatedly accused me of weaseling out of "challenges" you created to show off some skill YOU have that you think is cool. Funny to see you be faced with your own crap. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 08:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <38ec9387-655d-4558-8760-e15ce87c1b1f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465829 |
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 8:05:23 AM UTC-7, owl wrote: > fr314159@gmail.com wrote: > > On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 9:59:02 AM UTC-4, owl wrote: > > > >> > >> SYNOPSIS > >> steghide command [ arguments ] > >> > > > > Steghide uses a whacko, weirdo algorithm and it requires a passphrase. > > It also doesn't handle TIFF files. > > > > The challenge method is simple and foolproof. > > > > > > STEPIC(1) User Commands STEPIC(1) > > NAME > stepic - Python image steganography > > SYNOPSIS > stepic [options] > > DESCRIPTION > Steganographically hide data in a bitmap-style image, or read hidden > data from an image > > > anon@lowtide:~/code/stego$ ls -l > total 756 > -rw-r--r-- 1 anon anon 768334 Sep 4 10:36 fab.tiff > -rw-r--r-- 1 anon anon 33 Sep 4 10:57 hidden.txt > anon@lowtide:~/code/stego$ identify fab.tiff > fab.tiff TIFF 640x400 640x400+0+0 8-bit sRGB 768KB 0.000u 0:00.000 > anon@lowtide:~/code/stego$ cat hidden.txt > We don't cuss. We have manners. > anon@lowtide:~/code/stego$ stepic -e -i fab.tiff -t hidden.txt -o blah.tiff > anon@lowtide:~/code/stego$ identify blah.tiff > blah.tiff TIFF 640x400 640x400+0+0 8-bit sRGB 768KB 0.000u 0:00.000 > anon@lowtide:~/code/stego$ ls -l > total 1508 > -rw-r--r-- 1 anon anon 768192 Sep 4 10:58 blah.tiff > -rw-r--r-- 1 anon anon 768334 Sep 4 10:36 fab.tiff > -rw-r--r-- 1 anon anon 33 Sep 4 10:57 hidden.txt > anon@lowtide:~/code/stego$ stepic -d -i blah.tiff -o gotit.txt > anon@lowtide:~/code/stego$ cat gotit.txt > We don't cuss. We have manners. > anon@lowtide:~/code/stego$ No-one gets it, I am the one who figured it out. The fabricator AKA Klaus Schadenfreude does it every time. Then the torrent begins. Because the troll just has to run to other groups. But when the stats were run, it turns out by _that_ criteria, Klaus Schadenfreude was far more "dishonest" than anybody else. -- Live on Kickstarter!! https://redd.it/6sfhq6 https://youtu.be/m37dF5X2S-4 http://comp.os.linux.advocacy.narkive.com/711dskzA/steven-petruzzellis-admits-he-can-not-back-his-claims-about-snit Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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