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| Started by | Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> |
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| First post | 2018-08-17 13:37 +0000 |
| Last post | 2018-08-17 10:24 -0700 |
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Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-17 13:37 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-17 14:40 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 07:48 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-17 14:54 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 08:01 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-17 15:27 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 08:35 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-17 16:25 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 09:29 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-17 16:56 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 10:05 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-17 12:19 -0500
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 10:23 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-17 13:07 -0500
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 11:23 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 11:44 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-17 13:04 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-17 12:56 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 13:32 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 11:27 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-17 13:05 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-17 12:55 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-17 12:55 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 10:40 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-17 23:27 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 17:11 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 10:33 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-18 12:47 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-17 14:05 -0400
Re: Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-17 18:06 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-17 20:56 -0400
Re: Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-18 13:21 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 06:45 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-08-18 07:43 -0400
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 05:26 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-18 13:43 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-18 13:47 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-18 14:04 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-18 11:12 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 11:29 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-18 12:15 -0400
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 09:39 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-08-17 21:10 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 14:35 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-17 20:49 -0400
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-18 01:13 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 19:00 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-17 19:40 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 20:18 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-08-18 07:52 -0400
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 05:42 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-18 08:47 -0400
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 06:14 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-18 13:46 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-18 13:49 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-18 14:08 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Chuck Chop <"butwaitthere is more"@ginsu.org> - 2018-08-18 10:17 -0400
Re: Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-18 14:26 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 08:52 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-18 11:13 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-18 11:07 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 18:14 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-17 19:41 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 08:05 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-17 16:12 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-17 16:28 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-17 16:42 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 10:24 -0700
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-18 11:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ftr5j2Fltm3U14@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #463735 |
On 8/18/18 4:52 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > Melzzzzz wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > >> On 2018-08-18, DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >>> On 8/17/2018 5:10 PM, owl wrote: >>>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >>>>> On 8/17/2018 11:27 AM, Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On last job I had Mac to develop for Linux. On new job, they moved me to Windows >>>>>> project so I use Windows and VS ;p >>>>>> I was received as Linux/C++ expert ;) >>>>>> Don't worry, when I finish Windows project I will do Linux again ;) >>>>> >>>>> So you're /almost/ a Linux advocate. >>>>> >>>>> Congrats - there are only about 3 in the whole world. >>>> >>>> Why aren't you running Windows 10? >>> >>> President Trump said not to. >> >> I use Windows 10 at work, with 16GB of RAM on an i7 it runs fine. >> With expo view and bash it is almost like Linux. > > I'm stuck on Windows 10 at work now. Was running Linux primarily, on a dual > boot machine, using an alternate engineering network because the corporation > used Cisco crapware to make sure you were running only Windows with certain > anti-doofus crapware running when attached to their network. If not, your > machine is sequestered on a limited-access VLAN. > > But I left the wired NIC to the main corporate network connected, and one > day I found that corporate crapware had wrecked my Grub partition > (presumably via the Intel Management Engine), so it would boot only to > Windows. So I threw my hands up, and now run Linux in a VM at work. > > As for Windows 10, it may be the encryption and all the anti-doofus crapware > running on that laptop, but it is DOG SLOW. And this is on a machine with > NVMe SSDs and 32 Gb RAM! > > At least the virtual desktops are usable (if still not as nice as Linux's), > and I found out how to support one wallpaper per monitor and enabled > autoraise/autofocus on the crappy Windows desktop manager. > > And Word and Excel have a few annoying bugs in them. I'm not a > happy camper. Even the VM itself is faster and smoother than its host. Curious what Word and Excel bugs you mean? > At least I can use Libreoffice. And VLC, which handles Internet music > streams that Windows Media Player cannot grok. > -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 18:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <4241d684-6623-43e6-9640-006f86919037@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #463679 |
On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 5:48:52 PM UTC-7, DFS wrote: > On 8/17/2018 5:10 PM, owl wrote: > > DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > >> On 8/17/2018 11:27 AM, Melzzzzz wrote: > >> > >> > >>> On last job I had Mac to develop for Linux. On new job, they moved me to Windows > >>> project so I use Windows and VS ;p > >>> I was received as Linux/C++ expert ;) > >>> Don't worry, when I finish Windows project I will do Linux again ;) > >> > >> > >> So you're /almost/ a Linux advocate. > >> > >> Congrats - there are only about 3 in the whole world. > > > > Why aren't you running Windows 10? > > > President Trump said not to. Nearly all Linux users in this group do scripting either as a necessity or as a trade, so I am skeptical Klaus Schadenfreude thinks of automation to be "black magic". From what I've seen it looks like the Zsh shell ecosystem needs more and more resources. Now Klaus Schadenfreude on the other end of the line doesn't matter. All that matters is Steven Carroll gets to deliver his flood. So how to respond? Don't respond to the nonsense. Reason isn't part of sport and never was planned to be. In spite of my own feelings about Zsh shell, I still continue to install it for clients who've had down time with Windows 8. You never take culpability for your own comments. Actions that are easily seen to be trolling. Klaus Schadenfreude and Steven Carroll had their shortfalls and their awkward moments. But one played it cool and didn't do anything too appalling that could not be backed with peer reviews. A shadow of reason, projected incorrectly, at the wrong time. -- E-commerce Simplified!! http://www.5z8.info/nic_cage_naked_y8b5qk_torrentEverything Jonas Eklundh
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 19:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ftpfadFa0bdU19@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #463683 |
On 8/17/18 6:14 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 5:48:52 PM UTC-7, DFS wrote: >> On 8/17/2018 5:10 PM, owl wrote: >>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >>>> On 8/17/2018 11:27 AM, Melzzzzz wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On last job I had Mac to develop for Linux. On new job, they moved me to Windows >>>>> project so I use Windows and VS ;p >>>>> I was received as Linux/C++ expert ;) >>>>> Don't worry, when I finish Windows project I will do Linux again ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> So you're /almost/ a Linux advocate. >>>> >>>> Congrats - there are only about 3 in the whole world. >>> >>> Why aren't you running Windows 10? >> >> >> President Trump said not to. > > > > Nearly all Linux users in this group do scripting either as a necessity or as a trade, so I am skeptical Klaus Schadenfreude thinks of automation to be "black magic". > > From what I've seen it looks like the Zsh shell ecosystem needs more and more resources. Now Klaus Schadenfreude on the other end of the line doesn't matter. All that matters is Steven Carroll gets to deliver his flood. So how to respond? Don't respond to the nonsense. Reason isn't part of sport and never was planned to be. > > In spite of my own feelings about Zsh shell, I still continue to install it for clients who've had down time with Windows 8. You never take culpability for your own comments. Actions that are easily seen to be trolling. Klaus Schadenfreude and Steven Carroll had their shortfalls and their awkward moments. But one played it cool and didn't do anything too appalling that could not be backed with peer reviews. > > A shadow of reason, projected incorrectly, at the wrong time. > > > Why post this? -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 08:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e32b81a0-d02a-4e07-8d31-3015019070a7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #463539 |
On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 7:54:44 AM UTC-7, Melzzzzz wrote: > On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 8:40:27 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: > >> On 2018-08-17, Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> wrote: > >> ><https://www.gamepressure.com/e.asp?ID=1813> > >> > > >> > Summary: Publishers are becoming increasingly disillusioned with Steam > >> > because it has become the de facto method to distribute games and are > >> > creating their own platforms. For Linux, this can be a significant > >> > development as big name titles will likely no longer become available to > >> > them and gamers will be forced to turn to independent titles exclusively. > >> > > >> I really don't care as major players doesn't release for Linux anyway. > >> My rule is simple. If there is no native Linux version, I don't buy it. > > > > I don't know why, but I thought you also run Windows. > > Is that not the case? > > No. I run Windows only in virtualbox (once in three months ;). > > > > > -- > press any key to continue or any other to quit... A sustained, fierce, posting itch, despite nothing to say - essentially slippery snake prostitutes, and well-lubricated sheep, stuck in a mud hole for his own personal needs. Jonas Eklundh's earliest statement stands sincere and correct. It was Steve Carroll who got busted using hundreds of accounts repeatedly, and these are 'people' who come out of the blue immediately into threads where he was getting his ass handed to him... continuously for years. - Eight things to never feed your cat!! http://www.5z8.info/how-to-build-a-bomb_h2o1be_peepshow Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 16:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <AtCdD.35815$QN.3202@fx19.iad> |
| In reply to | #463532 |
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 14:40:24 +0000, Melzzzzz wrote: > On 2018-08-17, Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> wrote: >><https://www.gamepressure.com/e.asp?ID=1813> >> >> Summary: Publishers are becoming increasingly disillusioned with Steam >> because it has become the de facto method to distribute games and are >> creating their own platforms. For Linux, this can be a significant >> development as big name titles will likely no longer become available >> to them and gamers will be forced to turn to independent titles >> exclusively. >> > I really don't care as major players doesn't release for Linux anyway. > My rule is simple. If there is no native Linux version, I don't buy it. That's a good rule. Personally, I have decided to stop caring about using this gaming computer for that purpose. I'll play whatever they make available to Linux and everything else will be purchased on the Xbox One and only if I really want it. I've spent too much on games over the years and I frankly don't see the point of "investing" so much in the hobby anymore when Civilization V and FIFA are what I like to play the most. -- Andrzej Matuch FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
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| From | Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 16:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1JCdD.43124$Fr5.7911@fx41.am4> |
| In reply to | #463566 |
On 2018-08-17, Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> wrote: > On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 14:40:24 +0000, Melzzzzz wrote: > >> On 2018-08-17, Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> wrote: >>><https://www.gamepressure.com/e.asp?ID=1813> >>> >>> Summary: Publishers are becoming increasingly disillusioned with Steam >>> because it has become the de facto method to distribute games and are >>> creating their own platforms. For Linux, this can be a significant >>> development as big name titles will likely no longer become available >>> to them and gamers will be forced to turn to independent titles >>> exclusively. >>> >> I really don't care as major players doesn't release for Linux anyway. >> My rule is simple. If there is no native Linux version, I don't buy it. > > That's a good rule. Personally, I have decided to stop caring about using > this gaming computer for that purpose. I'll play whatever they make > available to Linux and everything else will be purchased on the Xbox One > and only if I really want it. I've spent too much on games over the years > and I frankly don't see the point of "investing" so much in the hobby > anymore when Civilization V and FIFA are what I like to play the most. > I am playing 10-15 minutes in one go. Then doing something else. All in all I think I am spending about 4-8 hours a week on games. -- press any key to continue or any other to quit...
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| From | Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 16:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <jWCdD.35819$QN.9414@fx19.iad> |
| In reply to | #463576 |
On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 16:28:45 +0000, Melzzzzz wrote: > On 2018-08-17, Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> wrote: >> On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 14:40:24 +0000, Melzzzzz wrote: >> >>> On 2018-08-17, Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> wrote: >>>><https://www.gamepressure.com/e.asp?ID=1813> >>>> >>>> Summary: Publishers are becoming increasingly disillusioned with >>>> Steam because it has become the de facto method to distribute games >>>> and are creating their own platforms. For Linux, this can be a >>>> significant development as big name titles will likely no longer >>>> become available to them and gamers will be forced to turn to >>>> independent titles exclusively. >>>> >>> I really don't care as major players doesn't release for Linux anyway. >>> My rule is simple. If there is no native Linux version, I don't buy >>> it. >> >> That's a good rule. Personally, I have decided to stop caring about >> using this gaming computer for that purpose. I'll play whatever they >> make available to Linux and everything else will be purchased on the >> Xbox One and only if I really want it. I've spent too much on games >> over the years and I frankly don't see the point of "investing" so much >> in the hobby anymore when Civilization V and FIFA are what I like to >> play the most. >> > I am playing 10-15 minutes in one go. Then doing something else. All in > all I think I am spending about 4-8 hours a week on games. I also spend a lot less time on them. I just finished Mass Effect Andromeda yesterday (took me months because I played sporadically) and I have to say that while the game is fairly good, I felt little playing that thing. I have more fun with Civilization V and taking the other empires over. -- Andrzej Matuch FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Proud Catholic
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 10:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fefb2a3c-9dbb-4cd0-bf72-84a37544fb72@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #463576 |
On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 9:28:48 AM UTC-7, Melzzzzz wrote: > On 2018-08-17, Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Aug 2018 14:40:24 +0000, Melzzzzz wrote: > > > >> On 2018-08-17, Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> wrote: > >>><https://www.gamepressure.com/e.asp?ID=1813> > >>> > >>> Summary: Publishers are becoming increasingly disillusioned with Steam > >>> because it has become the de facto method to distribute games and are > >>> creating their own platforms. For Linux, this can be a significant > >>> development as big name titles will likely no longer become available > >>> to them and gamers will be forced to turn to independent titles > >>> exclusively. > >>> > >> I really don't care as major players doesn't release for Linux anyway. > >> My rule is simple. If there is no native Linux version, I don't buy it. > > > > That's a good rule. Personally, I have decided to stop caring about using > > this gaming computer for that purpose. I'll play whatever they make > > available to Linux and everything else will be purchased on the Xbox One > > and only if I really want it. I've spent too much on games over the years > > and I frankly don't see the point of "investing" so much in the hobby > > anymore when Civilization V and FIFA are what I like to play the most. > > > I am playing 10-15 minutes in one go. Then doing something else. All in > all I think I am spending about 4-8 hours a week on games. > > -- > press any key to continue or any other to quit... Are you being stupid on purpose? And what did Klaus Schadenfreude have to say about this long list of "convenient friends" who popped up at just the right moment? Most of the time he would try to push Steven Carroll to trust they're long time lurkers who just happened to have a detailed understanding of the history of the group. Steven Carroll just wiped his ass with Klaus Schadenfreude. - My Snoring Solution! http://www.5z8.info/michaelangelo-virus_t6v2vq_molotovcocktail http://www.5z8.info/killallimmigrants_t8w8io_asian-brides https://www.facebook.com/JonasEklundh Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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