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| Started by | Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> |
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| First post | 2018-08-17 13:37 +0000 |
| Last post | 2018-08-17 10:24 -0700 |
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Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-17 13:37 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-17 14:40 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 07:48 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-17 14:54 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 08:01 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-17 15:27 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 08:35 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-17 16:25 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 09:29 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-17 16:56 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 10:05 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-17 12:19 -0500
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 10:23 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-17 13:07 -0500
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 11:23 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 11:44 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-17 13:04 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-17 12:56 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 13:32 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 11:27 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-17 13:05 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-17 12:55 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-17 12:55 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 10:40 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-17 23:27 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 17:11 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 10:33 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-18 12:47 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-17 14:05 -0400
Re: Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-17 18:06 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-17 20:56 -0400
Re: Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-18 13:21 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 06:45 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-08-18 07:43 -0400
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 05:26 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-18 13:43 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-18 13:47 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-18 14:04 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-18 11:12 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 11:29 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-18 12:15 -0400
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 09:39 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-08-17 21:10 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 14:35 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-17 20:49 -0400
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-18 01:13 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 19:00 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-17 19:40 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 20:18 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-08-18 07:52 -0400
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 05:42 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-08-18 08:47 -0400
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 06:14 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-18 13:46 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-18 13:49 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-18 14:08 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Chuck Chop <"butwaitthere is more"@ginsu.org> - 2018-08-18 10:17 -0400
Re: Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-18 14:26 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-18 08:52 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-18 11:13 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-18 11:07 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 18:14 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-17 19:41 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 08:05 -0700
Re: Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-17 16:12 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-17 16:28 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> - 2018-08-17 16:42 +0000
Re: Say farewell to Steam Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-17 10:24 -0700
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| From | Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 13:37 +0000 |
| Subject | Say farewell to Steam |
| Message-ID | <hcAdD.158022$Nx7.158005@fx31.iad> |
<https://www.gamepressure.com/e.asp?ID=1813> Summary: Publishers are becoming increasingly disillusioned with Steam because it has become the de facto method to distribute games and are creating their own platforms. For Linux, this can be a significant development as big name titles will likely no longer become available to them and gamers will be forced to turn to independent titles exclusively. -- Andrzej Matuch FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
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| From | Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 14:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <s7BdD.54817$%u.17322@fx05.am4> |
| In reply to | #463512 |
On 2018-08-17, Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> wrote: ><https://www.gamepressure.com/e.asp?ID=1813> > > Summary: Publishers are becoming increasingly disillusioned with Steam > because it has become the de facto method to distribute games and are > creating their own platforms. For Linux, this can be a significant > development as big name titles will likely no longer become available to > them and gamers will be forced to turn to independent titles exclusively. > I really don't care as major players doesn't release for Linux anyway. My rule is simple. If there is no native Linux version, I don't buy it. -- press any key to continue or any other to quit...
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 07:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8970e5a8-004d-4146-b85d-0f0e20661254@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #463532 |
On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 8:40:27 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: > On 2018-08-17, Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> wrote: > ><https://www.gamepressure.com/e.asp?ID=1813> > > > > Summary: Publishers are becoming increasingly disillusioned with Steam > > because it has become the de facto method to distribute games and are > > creating their own platforms. For Linux, this can be a significant > > development as big name titles will likely no longer become available to > > them and gamers will be forced to turn to independent titles exclusively. > > > I really don't care as major players doesn't release for Linux anyway. > My rule is simple. If there is no native Linux version, I don't buy it. I don't know why, but I thought you also run Windows. Is that not the case?
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| From | Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 14:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <SkBdD.61610$8C.31719@fx25.am4> |
| In reply to | #463535 |
On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 8:40:27 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: >> On 2018-08-17, Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> wrote: >> ><https://www.gamepressure.com/e.asp?ID=1813> >> > >> > Summary: Publishers are becoming increasingly disillusioned with Steam >> > because it has become the de facto method to distribute games and are >> > creating their own platforms. For Linux, this can be a significant >> > development as big name titles will likely no longer become available to >> > them and gamers will be forced to turn to independent titles exclusively. >> > >> I really don't care as major players doesn't release for Linux anyway. >> My rule is simple. If there is no native Linux version, I don't buy it. > > I don't know why, but I thought you also run Windows. > Is that not the case? No. I run Windows only in virtualbox (once in three months ;). > -- press any key to continue or any other to quit...
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 08:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <93f04111-2efb-42ab-a192-00ffb162452c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #463539 |
On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 8:54:44 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: > On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 8:40:27 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: > >> On 2018-08-17, Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> wrote: > >> ><https://www.gamepressure.com/e.asp?ID=1813> > >> > > >> > Summary: Publishers are becoming increasingly disillusioned with Steam > >> > because it has become the de facto method to distribute games and are > >> > creating their own platforms. For Linux, this can be a significant > >> > development as big name titles will likely no longer become available to > >> > them and gamers will be forced to turn to independent titles exclusively. > >> > > >> I really don't care as major players doesn't release for Linux anyway. > >> My rule is simple. If there is no native Linux version, I don't buy it. > > > > I don't know why, but I thought you also run Windows. > > Is that not the case? > > No. I run Windows only in virtualbox (once in three months ;). Is all your development done on Linux (have you *ever* done on any a Mac)?
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| From | Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 15:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <zPBdD.32502$ju.17412@fx18.am4> |
| In reply to | #463540 |
On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 8:54:44 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: >> On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 8:40:27 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: >> >> On 2018-08-17, Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> wrote: >> >> ><https://www.gamepressure.com/e.asp?ID=1813> >> >> > >> >> > Summary: Publishers are becoming increasingly disillusioned with Steam >> >> > because it has become the de facto method to distribute games and are >> >> > creating their own platforms. For Linux, this can be a significant >> >> > development as big name titles will likely no longer become available to >> >> > them and gamers will be forced to turn to independent titles exclusively. >> >> > >> >> I really don't care as major players doesn't release for Linux anyway. >> >> My rule is simple. If there is no native Linux version, I don't buy it. >> > >> > I don't know why, but I thought you also run Windows. >> > Is that not the case? >> >> No. I run Windows only in virtualbox (once in three months ;). > > Is all your development done on Linux (have you *ever* done on > any a Mac)? On last job I had Mac to develop for Linux. On new job, they moved me to Windows project so I use Windows and VS ;p I was received as Linux/C++ expert ;) Don't worry, when I finish Windows project I will do Linux again ;) -- press any key to continue or any other to quit...
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 08:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8605e3ee-405a-46bf-93b3-13d99e8478cd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #463548 |
On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 9:27:29 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: > On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 8:54:44 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: > >> On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 8:40:27 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: > >> >> On 2018-08-17, Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> wrote: > >> >> ><https://www.gamepressure.com/e.asp?ID=1813> > >> >> > > >> >> > Summary: Publishers are becoming increasingly disillusioned with Steam > >> >> > because it has become the de facto method to distribute games and are > >> >> > creating their own platforms. For Linux, this can be a significant > >> >> > development as big name titles will likely no longer become available to > >> >> > them and gamers will be forced to turn to independent titles exclusively. > >> >> > > >> >> I really don't care as major players doesn't release for Linux anyway. > >> >> My rule is simple. If there is no native Linux version, I don't buy it. > >> > > >> > I don't know why, but I thought you also run Windows. > >> > Is that not the case? > >> > >> No. I run Windows only in virtualbox (once in three months ;). > > > > Is all your development done on Linux (have you *ever* done on > > any a Mac)? > > On last job I had Mac to develop for Linux. What was the reasoning behind that, why not just use Linux to develop for Linux? > On new job, they moved me to Windows > project so I use Windows and VS ;p Never used it but I do like the little free VS Code app. > I was received as Linux/C++ expert ;) > Don't worry, when I finish Windows project I will do Linux again ;) Do you prefer Linux apps and developing for Linux all the time?
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| From | Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 16:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pGCdD.43123$Fr5.22990@fx41.am4> |
| In reply to | #463549 |
On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 9:27:29 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: >> On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 8:54:44 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: >> >> On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 8:40:27 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: >> >> >> On 2018-08-17, Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> wrote: >> >> >> ><https://www.gamepressure.com/e.asp?ID=1813> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Summary: Publishers are becoming increasingly disillusioned with Steam >> >> >> > because it has become the de facto method to distribute games and are >> >> >> > creating their own platforms. For Linux, this can be a significant >> >> >> > development as big name titles will likely no longer become available to >> >> >> > them and gamers will be forced to turn to independent titles exclusively. >> >> >> > >> >> >> I really don't care as major players doesn't release for Linux anyway. >> >> >> My rule is simple. If there is no native Linux version, I don't buy it. >> >> > >> >> > I don't know why, but I thought you also run Windows. >> >> > Is that not the case? >> >> >> >> No. I run Windows only in virtualbox (once in three months ;). >> > >> > Is all your development done on Linux (have you *ever* done on >> > any a Mac)? >> >> On last job I had Mac to develop for Linux. > > What was the reasoning behind that, why not just use Linux > to develop for Linux? Boss was Apple freak. He ordered Apple computers for whole section ;) > >> On new job, they moved me to Windows >> project so I use Windows and VS ;p > > Never used it but I do like the little free VS Code app. > >> I was received as Linux/C++ expert ;) >> Don't worry, when I finish Windows project I will do Linux again ;) > > Do you prefer Linux apps and developing for Linux all the time? Well, yes. I apply for Linux jobs, if possible. Actually, when I look at it from programming perspective, I really don't care.... > > -- press any key to continue or any other to quit...
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 09:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b9bd9989-ff2d-41c0-beeb-5276a6cceacb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #463573 |
On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 10:26:00 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: > On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 9:27:29 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: > >> On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 8:54:44 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: > >> >> On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 8:40:27 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: > >> >> >> On 2018-08-17, Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> wrote: > >> >> >> ><https://www.gamepressure.com/e.asp?ID=1813> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Summary: Publishers are becoming increasingly disillusioned with Steam > >> >> >> > because it has become the de facto method to distribute games and are > >> >> >> > creating their own platforms. For Linux, this can be a significant > >> >> >> > development as big name titles will likely no longer become available to > >> >> >> > them and gamers will be forced to turn to independent titles exclusively. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> I really don't care as major players doesn't release for Linux anyway. > >> >> >> My rule is simple. If there is no native Linux version, I don't buy it. > >> >> > > >> >> > I don't know why, but I thought you also run Windows. > >> >> > Is that not the case? > >> >> > >> >> No. I run Windows only in virtualbox (once in three months ;). > >> > > >> > Is all your development done on Linux (have you *ever* done on > >> > any a Mac)? > >> > >> On last job I had Mac to develop for Linux. > > > > What was the reasoning behind that, why not just use Linux > > to develop for Linux? > > Boss was Apple freak. He ordered Apple computers for whole section ;) > > > > >> On new job, they moved me to Windows > >> project so I use Windows and VS ;p > > > > Never used it but I do like the little free VS Code app. > > > >> I was received as Linux/C++ expert ;) > >> Don't worry, when I finish Windows project I will do Linux again ;) > > > > Do you prefer Linux apps and developing for Linux all the time? > > Well, yes. I apply for Linux jobs, if possible. Actually, when I look at > it from programming perspective, I really don't care.... Do you work on a per project basis (in other words, are you not employed by a company full time)?
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| From | Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 16:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <77DdD.34697$Wx.3267@fx37.am4> |
| In reply to | #463577 |
On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 10:26:00 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: >> On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 9:27:29 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: >> >> On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 8:54:44 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: >> >> >> On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 8:40:27 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2018-08-17, Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> wrote: >> >> >> >> ><https://www.gamepressure.com/e.asp?ID=1813> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Summary: Publishers are becoming increasingly disillusioned with Steam >> >> >> >> > because it has become the de facto method to distribute games and are >> >> >> >> > creating their own platforms. For Linux, this can be a significant >> >> >> >> > development as big name titles will likely no longer become available to >> >> >> >> > them and gamers will be forced to turn to independent titles exclusively. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I really don't care as major players doesn't release for Linux anyway. >> >> >> >> My rule is simple. If there is no native Linux version, I don't buy it. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I don't know why, but I thought you also run Windows. >> >> >> > Is that not the case? >> >> >> >> >> >> No. I run Windows only in virtualbox (once in three months ;). >> >> > >> >> > Is all your development done on Linux (have you *ever* done on >> >> > any a Mac)? >> >> >> >> On last job I had Mac to develop for Linux. >> > >> > What was the reasoning behind that, why not just use Linux >> > to develop for Linux? >> >> Boss was Apple freak. He ordered Apple computers for whole section ;) >> >> > >> >> On new job, they moved me to Windows >> >> project so I use Windows and VS ;p >> > >> > Never used it but I do like the little free VS Code app. >> > >> >> I was received as Linux/C++ expert ;) >> >> Don't worry, when I finish Windows project I will do Linux again ;) >> > >> > Do you prefer Linux apps and developing for Linux all the time? >> >> Well, yes. I apply for Linux jobs, if possible. Actually, when I look at >> it from programming perspective, I really don't care.... > > Do you work on a per project basis (in other words, are you not employed > by a company full time)? I am currently employed full time. Thing is, that company has lot of projects. -- press any key to continue or any other to quit...
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 10:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <608d5e15-7992-4958-b3fe-38ddff8c4d12@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #463593 |
On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 10:56:38 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: > On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 10:26:00 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: > >> On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 9:27:29 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: > >> >> On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 8:54:44 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: > >> >> >> On 2018-08-17, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 8:40:27 AM UTC-6, Melzzzzz wrote: > >> >> >> >> On 2018-08-17, Andrzej Matuch <a.m@vt.ca> wrote: > >> >> >> >> ><https://www.gamepressure.com/e.asp?ID=1813> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Summary: Publishers are becoming increasingly disillusioned with Steam > >> >> >> >> > because it has become the de facto method to distribute games and are > >> >> >> >> > creating their own platforms. For Linux, this can be a significant > >> >> >> >> > development as big name titles will likely no longer become available to > >> >> >> >> > them and gamers will be forced to turn to independent titles exclusively. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> I really don't care as major players doesn't release for Linux anyway. > >> >> >> >> My rule is simple. If there is no native Linux version, I don't buy it. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I don't know why, but I thought you also run Windows. > >> >> >> > Is that not the case? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> No. I run Windows only in virtualbox (once in three months ;). > >> >> > > >> >> > Is all your development done on Linux (have you *ever* done on > >> >> > any a Mac)? > >> >> > >> >> On last job I had Mac to develop for Linux. > >> > > >> > What was the reasoning behind that, why not just use Linux > >> > to develop for Linux? > >> > >> Boss was Apple freak. He ordered Apple computers for whole section ;) > >> > >> > > >> >> On new job, they moved me to Windows > >> >> project so I use Windows and VS ;p > >> > > >> > Never used it but I do like the little free VS Code app. > >> > > >> >> I was received as Linux/C++ expert ;) > >> >> Don't worry, when I finish Windows project I will do Linux again ;) > >> > > >> > Do you prefer Linux apps and developing for Linux all the time? > >> > >> Well, yes. I apply for Linux jobs, if possible. Actually, when I look at > >> it from programming perspective, I really don't care.... > > > > Do you work on a per project basis (in other words, are you not employed > > by a company full time)? > I am currently employed full time. Thing is, that company has lot of > projects. I see. Are you doing any of it in Rust, or is that just being used for your personal stuff (I believe it was you doing Rust)?
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 12:19 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ve0endpu68qs78du6t13bh501n46177kbd@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #463594 |
Steve Carroll wrote: >> >> > >> >> > What was the reasoning behind that, why not just use Linux >> >> > to develop for Linux? >> >> >> >> Boss was Apple freak. He ordered Apple computers for whole section ;) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> On new job, they moved me to Windows >> >> >> project so I use Windows and VS ;p >> >> > >> >> > Never used it but I do like the little free VS Code app. >> >> > >> >> >> I was received as Linux/C++ expert ;) >> >> >> Don't worry, when I finish Windows project I will do Linux again ;) >> >> > >> >> > Do you prefer Linux apps and developing for Linux all the time? >> >> >> >> Well, yes. I apply for Linux jobs, if possible. Actually, when I look at >> >> it from programming perspective, I really don't care.... >> > >> > Do you work on a per project basis (in other words, are you not employed >> > by a company full time)? >> I am currently employed full time. Thing is, that company has lot of >> projects. > >I see. Are you doing any of it in Rust, or is that just being used for your >personal stuff (I believe it was you doing Rust)? FFS you are nosey. -- "you can easily compress noise by deleting all but the first byte and then recreating the noise for the duration. Therefore it is trivial to compress noise." - ccretin
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 10:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <c006aad4-d3ca-4f83-9e39-429a525cfe08@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #463598 |
On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 11:19:33 AM UTC-6, chrisv wrote: > Steve Carroll wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> > What was the reasoning behind that, why not just use Linux > >> >> > to develop for Linux? > >> >> > >> >> Boss was Apple freak. He ordered Apple computers for whole section ;) > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >> On new job, they moved me to Windows > >> >> >> project so I use Windows and VS ;p > >> >> > > >> >> > Never used it but I do like the little free VS Code app. > >> >> > > >> >> >> I was received as Linux/C++ expert ;) > >> >> >> Don't worry, when I finish Windows project I will do Linux again ;) > >> >> > > >> >> > Do you prefer Linux apps and developing for Linux all the time? > >> >> > >> >> Well, yes. I apply for Linux jobs, if possible. Actually, when I look at > >> >> it from programming perspective, I really don't care.... > >> > > >> > Do you work on a per project basis (in other words, are you not employed > >> > by a company full time)? > >> I am currently employed full time. Thing is, that company has lot of > >> projects. > > > >I see. Are you doing any of it in Rust, or is that just being used for your > >personal stuff (I believe it was you doing Rust)? > > FFS you are nosey. FFS are you paranoid. How is it "nosey" to ask anyone about computer related issues in a computer related newsgroup? Can't win with you, can I? LOL!
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 13:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vi3enddfr93mb8qubh5kemi3pqoqitb5cp@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #463599 |
Steve Carroll wrote: > Can't win with you, can I? I enjoyed your trolling of -highhorse... -- "I blame the Linux community. Everyone is making their own distro." - John "mono means one" Slade
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 11:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0baf659c-56ca-4a45-b54a-0a0bbec470f6@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #463607 |
On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 12:08:01 PM UTC-6, chrisv wrote: > Steve Carroll wrote: > > > Can't win with you, can I? > > I enjoyed your trolling of -highhorse... You're as confused as you are about my alleged 'nosiness'; hh was the one doing the trolling. Just because I don't buy the 'stats tell all' argument is no reason to play the race card and spew of bunch of other BS. If stats were as 'holy' as he seems to believe, he would've been right about open the source software movement all these years, yet, the facts show he's as wrong as anyone has ever been about anything.
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 11:44 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e837039c-ee66-4d98-841a-e86c8938a768@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #463609 |
On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 11:23:27 AM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 12:08:01 PM UTC-6, chrisv wrote: > > Steve Carroll wrote: > > > > > Can't win with you, can I? > > > > I enjoyed your trolling of -highhorse... > > You're as confused as you are about my alleged 'nosiness'; hh was the one > doing the trolling. Just because I don't buy the 'stats tell all' argument is no > reason to play the race card and spew of bunch of other BS. If stats were as > 'holy' as he seems to believe, he would've been right about open the source > software movement all these years, yet, the facts show he's as wrong as > anyone has ever been about anything. These posts are clearly not automated, they are made by an overmedicated pervert with a personal vendetta who has way too much time on his hands (and possibly has other shills helping him). Klaus Schadenfreude created at least one major circus in the last year or so. Let us all have a moment of silence as we honor his accomplishments! Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh and Klaus Schadenfreude both lie ceaselessly and flagrantly and continue to do so. So no point in showing any further respect or judiciousness. For most I would just think it is dubious. However, given that it's Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh I would dump that step and go straight to 'trolling' because that's most of what he does. No need to find evidence before accusing Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh of lying. Like most in here, Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh relies on biased science to contrive stances on current events. Therefore, he only is aware of and speaks of the government reports which also happens to be the ones which describe education in hopeful and principled slant. Marketing is a wonderful thing and consumer ignorance is even better. I think the person you are replying to is in my kill file. Now Klaus Schadenfreude on the other end of the crap doesn't matter. All that matters is Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh gets to deliver the punchline. So how to handle it? Don't respond to the moron. Logic isn't part of stratagem and never will be. -- "You'll notice how quickly he loses interest when everything is about him. He clearly wants the attention" Steve Carroll, making the dumbest comment ever uttered.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 13:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ftoo38F58ahU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #463614 |
On 8/17/18 11:44 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 11:23:27 AM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote: >> On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 12:08:01 PM UTC-6, chrisv wrote: >>> Steve Carroll wrote: >>> >>>> Can't win with you, can I? >>> >>> I enjoyed your trolling of -highhorse... >> >> You're as confused as you are about my alleged 'nosiness'; hh was the one >> doing the trolling. Just because I don't buy the 'stats tell all' argument is no >> reason to play the race card and spew of bunch of other BS. If stats were as >> 'holy' as he seems to believe, he would've been right about open the source >> software movement all these years, yet, the facts show he's as wrong as >> anyone has ever been about anything. > > > > These posts are clearly not automated, they are made by an overmedicated pervert with a personal vendetta who has way too much time on his hands (and possibly has other shills helping him). Klaus Schadenfreude created at least one major circus in the last year or so. Let us all have a moment of silence as we honor his accomplishments! Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh and Klaus Schadenfreude both lie ceaselessly and flagrantly and continue to do so. So no point in showing any further respect or judiciousness. > > For most I would just think it is dubious. However, given that it's Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh I would dump that step and go straight to 'trolling' because that's most of what he does. No need to find evidence before accusing Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh of lying. Like most in here, Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh relies on biased science to contrive stances on current events. Therefore, he only is aware of and speaks of the government reports which also happens to be the ones which describe education in hopeful and principled slant. Marketing is a wonderful thing and consumer ignorance is even better. > > I think the person you are replying to is in my kill file. > > Now Klaus Schadenfreude on the other end of the crap doesn't matter. All that matters is Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh gets to deliver the punchline. So how to handle it? Don't respond to the moron. Logic isn't part of stratagem and never will be. > > -- > "You'll notice how quickly he loses interest when everything is about him. He clearly wants the attention" > Steve Carroll, making the dumbest comment ever uttered. > Earlier today, Carroll, you accused me of lying about your flood bot posts. Why not quote the lie you say I told about them? -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 12:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ftonj4F52dgU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #463609 |
On 8/17/18 11:23 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 12:08:01 PM UTC-6, chrisv wrote: >> Steve Carroll wrote: >> >>> Can't win with you, can I? >> >> I enjoyed your trolling of -highhorse... > > You're as confused as you are about my alleged 'nosiness'; hh was the one > doing the trolling. Just because I don't buy the 'stats tell all' argument is no > reason to play the race card and spew of bunch of other BS. If stats were as > 'holy' as he seems to believe, he would've been right about open the source > software movement all these years, yet, the facts show he's as wrong as > anyone has ever been about anything. > Stop playing victim. You refused to answer questions, whined about what stats you wanted as -hh showed things were better than your standard, then said stats did not matter, and on and on and on as you pushed your often clearly bigoted crap. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 13:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <49090fc7-0281-441b-87ff-bd9e4188a68a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #463628 |
On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 12:56:23 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote: > On 8/17/18 11:23 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > > On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 12:08:01 PM UTC-6, chrisv wrote: > >> Steve Carroll wrote: > >> > >>> Can't win with you, can I? > >> > >> I enjoyed your trolling of -highhorse... > > > > You're as confused as you are about my alleged 'nosiness'; hh was the one > > doing the trolling. Just because I don't buy the 'stats tell all' argument is no > > reason to play the race card and spew of bunch of other BS. If stats were as > > 'holy' as he seems to believe, he would've been right about open the source > > software movement all these years, yet, the facts show he's as wrong as > > anyone has ever been about anything. > > > > Stop playing victim. You refused to answer questions, whined about what > stats you wanted as -hh showed things were better than your standard, > then said stats did not matter, and on and on and on as you pushed your > often clearly bigoted crap. > > -- > Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They > cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel > somehow superior by attacking the messenger. > > They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. > > <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308> Over and over, the refrain is the Script Troller wants to "talk tech", but the Script Troller spends most of his time whining about "trolling". If the Script Troller calls getting shoved into kill filters for years on end by Jeff Relf and me 'trolling', then no doubt... he is a great troll. I can not agree with that definition, I use another term. I call that person an utter doofus. A flaming bush that never burns, magnified by the reciprocal of an infinite twin prime, demonstrating the vast nothingness of the Script Troller's so-called thought process. His dream is to see me frustrated by the spraying of the groups outside. And hey, that could kill this group. It was the Script Troller who flooded Jeff Relf's site hundreds of thousands of times and pretended he did not do it. By the way, taking effort potentially getting informed isn't wasted time. Asserting you know all and working to 'prove' Jeff Relf that it is true, as the Script Troller tries to do? *That* is a waste. Why does the Script Troller focus on his own ego so much? Jeff Relf has a bunch of wisdom to contribute and he apparently wants to share it. Sadly this is without a doubt the least appropriate locale for doing that because most of response is howling, misleading, and other baloney. -- Get Rich Slow!! https://youtu.be/0ZNxaaKD7-c https://youtu.be/IhOfBmWwCVY http://www.5z8.info/hackwebcam_e9z2tw_friendster-of-sex Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-17 11:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <95873d19-d3da-489c-a75f-ee08e5fc0d77@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #463607 |
On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 11:08:01 AM UTC-7, chrisv wrote: > Steve Carroll wrote: > > > Can't win with you, can I? > > I enjoyed your trolling of -highhorse... > > -- > "I blame the Linux community. Everyone is making their own distro." - > John "mono means one" Slade Did he think that was clever? When I was new here, I wanted to be equitable and unbiased. I gave Klaus Schadenfreude more than a rational person generally would. And you _do_ realize that it isn't impossible for Klaus Schadenfreude to be doing this, or encouraging those who are. -- What Every Entrepreneur Must Know!! http://comp.os.linux.advocacy.narkive.com/711dskzA/steven-petruzzellis-admits-he-can-not-back-his-claims-about-snit http://tinyurl.com/kmqe66h Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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