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  NYU Professor: "We're on the verge of completely losing our culture" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-01 15:40 +0000
    Re: NYU Professor: "We're on the verge of completely losing our culture" Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 10:04 -0700
      Re: NYU Professor: "We're on the verge of completely losing our culture" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-01 17:22 +0000
        Re: NYU Professor: "We're on the verge of completely losing our culture" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-01 11:21 -0700
        Re: NYU Professor: "We're on the verge of completely losing our culture" Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 11:23 -0700
          Re: NYU Professor: "We're on the verge of completely losing our culture" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-01 11:28 -0700
            Re: NYU Professor: "We're on the verge of completely losing our culture" Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 11:29 -0700
              Re: NYU Professor: "We're on the verge of completely losing our culture" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-01 11:31 -0700
          Re: NYU Professor: "We're on the verge of completely losing our culture" SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-01 22:03 +0000
            Re: NYU Professor: "We're on the verge of completely losing our culture" Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 08:26 -0700

#460734 — NYU Professor: "We're on the verge of completely losing our culture"

“How dare the left have pretensions of moral superiority. Leftists in 
power have mass-murdered and imprisoned more people than any other 
contingent in political history. Don’t come around here acting morally 
superior to me or anyone else, you monsters.”

AMEN.

<https://www.infowars.com/nyu-professor-were-on-the-verge-of-completely-
losing-our-culture/>

-- 
SilverSlimer
Ubuntu 18.04 on MSI GT72 2QD
Proudly blocking Facebook, Twitter and Youtube
Liberals will be killfiled

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#460752

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:40:35 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
> “How dare the left have pretensions of moral superiority. Leftists in 
> power have mass-murdered and imprisoned more people than any other 
> contingent in political history. Don’t come around here acting morally 
> superior to me or anyone else, you monsters.”
> 
> AMEN.
> 
> <https://www.infowars.com/nyu-professor-were-on-the-verge-of-completely-
> losing-our-culture/>

What's the deal with this guy? Seems many on the left believe he's
a wolf in sheep's clothing. Even his dean is publicly accusing him
of lying. In the only article specifically referenced by the Dean
as shown in the campus News Release, here:

<https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2016/november/email-correspondence-between-professor-michael-rectenwald-and-de.html>

The prof's statement read:

"Two days after the interview and the same day as the response, I was summoned by my dean, via email, to meet that afternoon. I accepted, and when we spoke in person, to my surprise, he stated (for my ears only) that the meeting had nothing to do with the interview or the Twitter account. Rather, he said (after a representative of NYU human resources joined our conversation), certain unidentified members of the staff or faculty had expressed concern for my well-being. Suffice it to say that I was strongly encouraged to take a paid leave of absence and that, according to the administration, it had nothing to do with my recent media posture. That’s not exactly how I see it."

<https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/03/campus-pc-culture-is-so-rampant-that-nyu-is-paying-to-silence-me/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a04e46574dc1>


If you've been called into a meeting with HR and you're asking for 
leave, isn't there supposed to be some kind of written document of
you asking for leave if you're the one initiating that leave? Seems
to me the dean would've made sure such a document was included in
the campus News Release. The prof saying he "needs" the leave doesn't 
mean he wasn't "strongly encouraged" to take it beforehand. Did the 
prof ask for the meeting? According to him, he was summoned by my dean" 
and that doesn't appear to be challenged in the News Release.

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#460753

On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 10:04:22 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:

> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:40:35 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> “How dare the left have pretensions of moral superiority. Leftists in
>> power have mass-murdered and imprisoned more people than any other
>> contingent in political history. Don’t come around here acting morally
>> superior to me or anyone else, you monsters.”
>> 
>> AMEN.
>> 
>> <https://www.infowars.com/nyu-professor-were-on-the-verge-of-
completely-
>> losing-our-culture/>
> 
> What's the deal with this guy? Seems many on the left believe he's a
> wolf in sheep's clothing. Even his dean is publicly accusing him of
> lying. In the only article specifically referenced by the Dean as shown
> in the campus News Release, here:
> 
> <https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2016/november/email-
correspondence-between-professor-michael-rectenwald-and-de.html>
> 
> The prof's statement read:
> 
> "Two days after the interview and the same day as the response, I was
> summoned by my dean, via email, to meet that afternoon. I accepted, and
> when we spoke in person, to my surprise, he stated (for my ears only)
> that the meeting had nothing to do with the interview or the Twitter
> account. Rather, he said (after a representative of NYU human resources
> joined our conversation), certain unidentified members of the staff or
> faculty had expressed concern for my well-being. Suffice it to say that
> I was strongly encouraged to take a paid leave of absence and that,
> according to the administration, it had nothing to do with my recent
> media posture. That’s not exactly how I see it."
> 
> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/03/campus-pc-
culture-is-so-rampant-that-nyu-is-paying-to-silence-me/?
noredirect=on&utm_term=.a04e46574dc1>
> 
> 
> If you've been called into a meeting with HR and you're asking for
> leave, isn't there supposed to be some kind of written document of you
> asking for leave if you're the one initiating that leave? Seems to me
> the dean would've made sure such a document was included in the campus
> News Release. The prof saying he "needs" the leave doesn't mean he
> wasn't "strongly encouraged" to take it beforehand. Did the prof ask for
> the meeting? According to him, he was summoned by my dean"
> and that doesn't appear to be challenged in the News Release.

Speaking as a real educator (not whatever Snit does), I can confidently 
claim that exposing yourself as anything right of centre is suicide. 
Logic and reason are no longer a part of the education system and the mob 
dictates that every teacher must be as Communist as Lenin was. If you 
aren't, they _will_ get you fired or killed.


-- 
SilverSlimer
Ubuntu 18.04 on MSI GT72 2QD
Proudly blocking Facebook, Twitter and Youtube
Liberals will be killfiled

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#460767

On 8/1/18 10:22 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 10:04:22 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:40:35 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>> “How dare the left have pretensions of moral superiority. Leftists in
>>> power have mass-murdered and imprisoned more people than any other
>>> contingent in political history. Don’t come around here acting morally
>>> superior to me or anyone else, you monsters.”
>>>
>>> AMEN.
>>>
>>> <https://www.infowars.com/nyu-professor-were-on-the-verge-of-
> completely-
>>> losing-our-culture/>
>>
>> What's the deal with this guy? Seems many on the left believe he's a
>> wolf in sheep's clothing. Even his dean is publicly accusing him of
>> lying. In the only article specifically referenced by the Dean as shown
>> in the campus News Release, here:
>>
>> <https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2016/november/email-
> correspondence-between-professor-michael-rectenwald-and-de.html>
>>
>> The prof's statement read:
>>
>> "Two days after the interview and the same day as the response, I was
>> summoned by my dean, via email, to meet that afternoon. I accepted, and
>> when we spoke in person, to my surprise, he stated (for my ears only)
>> that the meeting had nothing to do with the interview or the Twitter
>> account. Rather, he said (after a representative of NYU human resources
>> joined our conversation), certain unidentified members of the staff or
>> faculty had expressed concern for my well-being. Suffice it to say that
>> I was strongly encouraged to take a paid leave of absence and that,
>> according to the administration, it had nothing to do with my recent
>> media posture. That’s not exactly how I see it."
>>
>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/03/campus-pc-
> culture-is-so-rampant-that-nyu-is-paying-to-silence-me/?
> noredirect=on&utm_term=.a04e46574dc1>
>>
>>
>> If you've been called into a meeting with HR and you're asking for
>> leave, isn't there supposed to be some kind of written document of you
>> asking for leave if you're the one initiating that leave? Seems to me
>> the dean would've made sure such a document was included in the campus
>> News Release. The prof saying he "needs" the leave doesn't mean he
>> wasn't "strongly encouraged" to take it beforehand. Did the prof ask for
>> the meeting? According to him, he was summoned by my dean"
>> and that doesn't appear to be challenged in the News Release.
> 
> Speaking as a real educator (not whatever Snit does), I can confidently
> claim that exposing yourself as anything right of centre is suicide.
> Logic and reason are no longer a part of the education system and the mob
> dictates that every teacher must be as Communist as Lenin was. If you
> aren't, they _will_ get you fired or killed.
> 
> 
What name did you use when you were in my class?

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#460770

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 11:22:34 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 10:04:22 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
> > On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:40:35 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >> “How dare the left have pretensions of moral superiority. Leftists in
> >> power have mass-murdered and imprisoned more people than any other
> >> contingent in political history. Don’t come around here acting morally
> >> superior to me or anyone else, you monsters.”
> >> 
> >> AMEN.
> >> 
> >> <https://www.infowars.com/nyu-professor-were-on-the-verge-of-
> completely-
> >> losing-our-culture/>
> > 
> > What's the deal with this guy? Seems many on the left believe he's a
> > wolf in sheep's clothing. Even his dean is publicly accusing him of
> > lying. In the only article specifically referenced by the Dean as shown
> > in the campus News Release, here:
> > 
> > <https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2016/november/email-
> correspondence-between-professor-michael-rectenwald-and-de.html>
> > 
> > The prof's statement read:
> > 
> > "Two days after the interview and the same day as the response, I was
> > summoned by my dean, via email, to meet that afternoon. I accepted, and
> > when we spoke in person, to my surprise, he stated (for my ears only)
> > that the meeting had nothing to do with the interview or the Twitter
> > account. Rather, he said (after a representative of NYU human resources
> > joined our conversation), certain unidentified members of the staff or
> > faculty had expressed concern for my well-being. Suffice it to say that
> > I was strongly encouraged to take a paid leave of absence and that,
> > according to the administration, it had nothing to do with my recent
> > media posture. That’s not exactly how I see it."
> > 
> > <https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/03/campus-pc-
> culture-is-so-rampant-that-nyu-is-paying-to-silence-me/?
> noredirect=on&utm_term=.a04e46574dc1>
> > 
> > 
> > If you've been called into a meeting with HR and you're asking for
> > leave, isn't there supposed to be some kind of written document of you
> > asking for leave if you're the one initiating that leave? Seems to me
> > the dean would've made sure such a document was included in the campus
> > News Release. The prof saying he "needs" the leave doesn't mean he
> > wasn't "strongly encouraged" to take it beforehand. Did the prof ask for
> > the meeting? According to him, he was summoned by my dean"
> > and that doesn't appear to be challenged in the News Release.
> 
> Speaking as a real educator (not whatever Snit does), I can confidently 
> claim that exposing yourself as anything right of centre is suicide. 
> Logic and reason are no longer a part of the education system and the mob 
> dictates that every teacher must be as Communist as Lenin was. If you 
> aren't, they _will_ get you fired or killed.

From the News Release (by the dean):
"The fact of the matter is that this leave has nothing to do with your opinions or your take on the academy and was not involuntary; rather, the truth is, the leave is something you said you wanted and needed."

Well, someone is obviously lying here, the question is who. Unless there are
extenuating circumstances, I don't see a reason for a meeting with someone
from HR.

if you're just asking the dean for leave. It's odd to me that, after having read
the prof's article (which the dean referenced specifically) the dean didn't 
deny that the prof was "summoned", nor did he deny that HR was present in
the meeting. Couple that with the fact that there is no documentation of the
prof *initiating* the request for leave (isn't this how it's done if you're asking?), 
officially or even in email and it's looking like the dean is the one who's full of it.

It's also odd that the dean wrote:
"You indicated that you thought a leave from NYU would be a good idea and you took affirmative steps to make that happen."

Why not talk about these alleged "affirmative steps"? If you're trying to 
convince the reader of something isn't it considered a good idea to include 
evidence that would convince them, at the least, a mention of prof's written
request, verified by the HR person the prof claimed was in attendance?

The dean also wrote:
"We don't give leaves or sanctions because of people's Twitter feeds.  For us to be clear on your needs, we require you to state unequivocally and in a direct, unambiguous response whether you still need the leave you requested." 

We... not just the dean... "We". Wouldn't the formalizing of such a request,
for the purposes of "We", who may subsequently view the request being 
*claimed* to be for what "we require", necessitate the writing/signing  of it?
Commons sense dictates if such a document existed at the time of the email
exchanges being made public to the News Release, why wasn't it mentioned
or, better, included if that was legally possible. What's next? They'll gen up
some "evidence" a la Snit (it *already* looks like a Snit job)?  Maybe there's 
more to this story but something definitely stinks at NYU and it's not as
one sided as is being portrayed. Looks to me they were giving him the ol'
shuffle off to Buffalo routine and he pushed back by staying on leave.

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#460774

On 8/1/18 11:23 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
...
> We... not just the dean... "We". Wouldn't the formalizing of such a request,
> for the purposes of "We", who may subsequently view the request being
> *claimed* to be for what "we require", necessitate the writing/signing  of it?
> Commons sense dictates if such a document existed at the time of the email
> exchanges being made public to the News Release, why wasn't it mentioned
> or, better, included if that was legally possible. What's next? They'll gen up
> some "evidence" a la Snit (it *already* looks like a Snit job)?  Maybe there's
> more to this story but something definitely stinks at NYU and it's not as
> one sided as is being portrayed. Looks to me they were giving him the ol'
> shuffle off to Buffalo routine and he pushed back by staying on leave.
> 

When was the last post of yours where you did not refer in any way to 
your victim mentality?

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#460775

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 12:28:41 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> On 8/1/18 11:23 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> ...
> > We... not just the dean... "We". Wouldn't the formalizing of such a request,
> > for the purposes of "We", who may subsequently view the request being
> > *claimed* to be for what "we require", necessitate the writing/signing  of it?
> > Commons sense dictates if such a document existed at the time of the email
> > exchanges being made public to the News Release, why wasn't it mentioned
> > or, better, included if that was legally possible. What's next? They'll gen up
> > some "evidence" a la Snit (it *already* looks like a Snit job)?  Maybe there's
> > more to this story but something definitely stinks at NYU and it's not as
> > one sided as is being portrayed. Looks to me they were giving him the ol'
> > shuffle off to Buffalo routine and he pushed back by staying on leave.
> > 
> 
> When was the last post of yours where you did not refer in any way to 
> your victim mentality?

Why can't you read?

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#460777

On 8/1/18 11:29 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 12:28:41 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>> On 8/1/18 11:23 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> ...
>>> We... not just the dean... "We". Wouldn't the formalizing of such a request,
>>> for the purposes of "We", who may subsequently view the request being
>>> *claimed* to be for what "we require", necessitate the writing/signing  of it?
>>> Commons sense dictates if such a document existed at the time of the email
>>> exchanges being made public to the News Release, why wasn't it mentioned
>>> or, better, included if that was legally possible. What's next? They'll gen up
>>> some "evidence" a la Snit (it *already* looks like a Snit job)?  Maybe there's
>>> more to this story but something definitely stinks at NYU and it's not as
>>> one sided as is being portrayed. Looks to me they were giving him the ol'
>>> shuffle off to Buffalo routine and he pushed back by staying on leave.
>>>
>>
>> When was the last post of yours where you did not refer in any way to
>> your victim mentality?

Not even Carroll can find one. Fair enough.

> Why can't you read?




-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#460801

On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 11:23:13 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:

> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 11:22:34 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 10:04:22 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> 
>> > On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:40:35 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> >> “How dare the left have pretensions of moral superiority. Leftists
>> >> in power have mass-murdered and imprisoned more people than any
>> >> other contingent in political history. Don’t come around here acting
>> >> morally superior to me or anyone else, you monsters.”
>> >> 
>> >> AMEN.
>> >> 
>> >> <https://www.infowars.com/nyu-professor-were-on-the-verge-of-
>> completely-
>> >> losing-our-culture/>
>> > 
>> > What's the deal with this guy? Seems many on the left believe he's a
>> > wolf in sheep's clothing. Even his dean is publicly accusing him of
>> > lying. In the only article specifically referenced by the Dean as
>> > shown in the campus News Release, here:
>> > 
>> > <https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2016/november/
email-
>> correspondence-between-professor-michael-rectenwald-and-de.html>
>> > 
>> > The prof's statement read:
>> > 
>> > "Two days after the interview and the same day as the response, I was
>> > summoned by my dean, via email, to meet that afternoon. I accepted,
>> > and when we spoke in person, to my surprise, he stated (for my ears
>> > only) that the meeting had nothing to do with the interview or the
>> > Twitter account. Rather, he said (after a representative of NYU human
>> > resources joined our conversation), certain unidentified members of
>> > the staff or faculty had expressed concern for my well-being. Suffice
>> > it to say that I was strongly encouraged to take a paid leave of
>> > absence and that, according to the administration, it had nothing to
>> > do with my recent media posture. That’s not exactly how I see it."
>> > 
>> > <https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/03/campus-
pc-
>> culture-is-so-rampant-that-nyu-is-paying-to-silence-me/?
>> noredirect=on&utm_term=.a04e46574dc1>
>> > 
>> > 
>> > If you've been called into a meeting with HR and you're asking for
>> > leave, isn't there supposed to be some kind of written document of
>> > you asking for leave if you're the one initiating that leave? Seems
>> > to me the dean would've made sure such a document was included in the
>> > campus News Release. The prof saying he "needs" the leave doesn't
>> > mean he wasn't "strongly encouraged" to take it beforehand. Did the
>> > prof ask for the meeting? According to him, he was summoned by my
>> > dean"
>> > and that doesn't appear to be challenged in the News Release.
>> 
>> Speaking as a real educator (not whatever Snit does), I can confidently
>> claim that exposing yourself as anything right of centre is suicide.
>> Logic and reason are no longer a part of the education system and the
>> mob dictates that every teacher must be as Communist as Lenin was. If
>> you aren't, they _will_ get you fired or killed.
> 
> From the News Release (by the dean):
> "The fact of the matter is that this leave has nothing to do with your
> opinions or your take on the academy and was not involuntary; rather,
> the truth is, the leave is something you said you wanted and needed."
> 
> Well, someone is obviously lying here, the question is who. Unless there
> are extenuating circumstances, I don't see a reason for a meeting with
> someone from HR.

The reality is that they want the one making conservative statements gone 
but they know that they can't explicitly say that because it would be 
discrimination.
 
> if you're just asking the dean for leave. It's odd to me that, after
> having read the prof's article (which the dean referenced specifically)
> the dean didn't deny that the prof was "summoned", nor did he deny that
> HR was present in the meeting. Couple that with the fact that there is
> no documentation of the prof *initiating* the request for leave (isn't
> this how it's done if you're asking?),
> officially or even in email and it's looking like the dean is the one
> who's full of it.
> 
> It's also odd that the dean wrote:
> "You indicated that you thought a leave from NYU would be a good idea
> and you took affirmative steps to make that happen."
> 
> Why not talk about these alleged "affirmative steps"? If you're trying
> to convince the reader of something isn't it considered a good idea to
> include evidence that would convince them, at the least, a mention of
> prof's written request, verified by the HR person the prof claimed was
> in attendance?
> 
> The dean also wrote:
> "We don't give leaves or sanctions because of people's Twitter feeds. 
> For us to be clear on your needs, we require you to state unequivocally
> and in a direct, unambiguous response whether you still need the leave
> you requested."
> 
> We... not just the dean... "We". Wouldn't the formalizing of such a
> request,
> for the purposes of "We", who may subsequently view the request being
> *claimed* to be for what "we require", necessitate the writing/signing 
> of it?
> Commons sense dictates if such a document existed at the time of the
> email exchanges being made public to the News Release, why wasn't it
> mentioned or, better, included if that was legally possible. What's
> next? They'll gen up some "evidence" a la Snit (it *already* looks like
> a Snit job)?  Maybe there's more to this story but something definitely
> stinks at NYU and it's not as one sided as is being portrayed. Looks to
> me they were giving him the ol'
> shuffle off to Buffalo routine and he pushed back by staying on leave.

I don't trust the dean at all here. I've seen the face of education human 
resource departments and I know that they are often just a bunch of 
uninformed, naive, Snit-like morons. 


-- 
SilverSlimer
Ubuntu 18.04 on MSI GT72 2QD
Proudly blocking Facebook, Twitter and Youtube
Liberals will be killfiled

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#460835

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:03:44 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 11:23:13 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
> > On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 11:22:34 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >> On Wed, 01 Aug 2018 10:04:22 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >> 
> >> > On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:40:35 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >> >> “How dare the left have pretensions of moral superiority. Leftists
> >> >> in power have mass-murdered and imprisoned more people than any
> >> >> other contingent in political history. Don’t come around here acting
> >> >> morally superior to me or anyone else, you monsters.”
> >> >> 
> >> >> AMEN.
> >> >> 
> >> >> <https://www.infowars.com/nyu-professor-were-on-the-verge-of-
> >> completely-
> >> >> losing-our-culture/>
> >> > 
> >> > What's the deal with this guy? Seems many on the left believe he's a
> >> > wolf in sheep's clothing. Even his dean is publicly accusing him of
> >> > lying. In the only article specifically referenced by the Dean as
> >> > shown in the campus News Release, here:
> >> > 
> >> > <https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2016/november/
> email-
> >> correspondence-between-professor-michael-rectenwald-and-de.html>
> >> > 
> >> > The prof's statement read:
> >> > 
> >> > "Two days after the interview and the same day as the response, I was
> >> > summoned by my dean, via email, to meet that afternoon. I accepted,
> >> > and when we spoke in person, to my surprise, he stated (for my ears
> >> > only) that the meeting had nothing to do with the interview or the
> >> > Twitter account. Rather, he said (after a representative of NYU human
> >> > resources joined our conversation), certain unidentified members of
> >> > the staff or faculty had expressed concern for my well-being. Suffice
> >> > it to say that I was strongly encouraged to take a paid leave of
> >> > absence and that, according to the administration, it had nothing to
> >> > do with my recent media posture. That’s not exactly how I see it."
> >> > 
> >> > <https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/11/03/campus-
> pc-
> >> culture-is-so-rampant-that-nyu-is-paying-to-silence-me/?
> >> noredirect=on&utm_term=.a04e46574dc1>
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > If you've been called into a meeting with HR and you're asking for
> >> > leave, isn't there supposed to be some kind of written document of
> >> > you asking for leave if you're the one initiating that leave? Seems
> >> > to me the dean would've made sure such a document was included in the
> >> > campus News Release. The prof saying he "needs" the leave doesn't
> >> > mean he wasn't "strongly encouraged" to take it beforehand. Did the
> >> > prof ask for the meeting? According to him, he was summoned by my
> >> > dean"
> >> > and that doesn't appear to be challenged in the News Release.
> >> 
> >> Speaking as a real educator (not whatever Snit does), I can confidently
> >> claim that exposing yourself as anything right of centre is suicide.
> >> Logic and reason are no longer a part of the education system and the
> >> mob dictates that every teacher must be as Communist as Lenin was. If
> >> you aren't, they _will_ get you fired or killed.
> > 
> > From the News Release (by the dean):
> > "The fact of the matter is that this leave has nothing to do with your
> > opinions or your take on the academy and was not involuntary; rather,
> > the truth is, the leave is something you said you wanted and needed."
> > 
> > Well, someone is obviously lying here, the question is who. Unless there
> > are extenuating circumstances, I don't see a reason for a meeting with
> > someone from HR.
> 
> The reality is that they want the one making conservative statements gone 
> but they know that they can't explicitly say that because it would be 
> discrimination.
>  
> > if you're just asking the dean for leave. It's odd to me that, after
> > having read the prof's article (which the dean referenced specifically)
> > the dean didn't deny that the prof was "summoned", nor did he deny that
> > HR was present in the meeting. Couple that with the fact that there is
> > no documentation of the prof *initiating* the request for leave (isn't
> > this how it's done if you're asking?),
> > officially or even in email and it's looking like the dean is the one
> > who's full of it.
> > 
> > It's also odd that the dean wrote:
> > "You indicated that you thought a leave from NYU would be a good idea
> > and you took affirmative steps to make that happen."
> > 
> > Why not talk about these alleged "affirmative steps"? If you're trying
> > to convince the reader of something isn't it considered a good idea to
> > include evidence that would convince them, at the least, a mention of
> > prof's written request, verified by the HR person the prof claimed was
> > in attendance?
> > 
> > The dean also wrote:
> > "We don't give leaves or sanctions because of people's Twitter feeds. 
> > For us to be clear on your needs, we require you to state unequivocally
> > and in a direct, unambiguous response whether you still need the leave
> > you requested."
> > 
> > We... not just the dean... "We". Wouldn't the formalizing of such a
> > request,
> > for the purposes of "We", who may subsequently view the request being
> > *claimed* to be for what "we require", necessitate the writing/signing 
> > of it?
> > Commons sense dictates if such a document existed at the time of the
> > email exchanges being made public to the News Release, why wasn't it
> > mentioned or, better, included if that was legally possible. What's
> > next? They'll gen up some "evidence" a la Snit (it *already* looks like
> > a Snit job)?  Maybe there's more to this story but something definitely
> > stinks at NYU and it's not as one sided as is being portrayed. Looks to
> > me they were giving him the ol'
> > shuffle off to Buffalo routine and he pushed back by staying on leave.
> 
> I don't trust the dean at all here. I've seen the face of education human 
> resource departments and I know that they are often just a bunch of 
> uninformed, naive, Snit-like morons. 

Being the dean of liberal studies, I suppose that's possible but it still seems
odd to me that anyone would take this public with only a 'he said, he said'
to back himself up. In my mind, if it's the prof who's lying it should be easy
to prove, yet, the emails (which the dean somehow views as "proof") only 
serve to make the dean look like the liar. My Dad went to NYU on the G.I.
bill, he's probably turning in his grave...

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