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What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter

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First post2018-07-26 13:25 +0000
Last post2018-07-27 13:08 -0700
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  What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 13:25 +0000
    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:19 +0000
      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 15:20 +0000
        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:23 +0000
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 16:12 +0000
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 09:34 -0700
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:37 -0700
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 20:09 +0000
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 13:53 -0700
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:37 -0700
        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:37 -0700
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 10:05 -0700
        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 09:50 -0700
      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:37 -0700
    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:28 -0700
    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-26 12:18 -0500
      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 10:36 -0700
      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 11:09 -0700
        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 12:43 -0700
      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 20:15 +0000
        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 13:55 -0700
      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 20:47 +0000
        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 14:00 -0700
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 14:48 -0700
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 15:02 -0700
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:22 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 16:07 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 16:33 -0700
                  Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:27 -0700
                    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 17:33 -0700
                      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:44 -0700
                        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 18:29 -0700
                          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 22:22 -0700
                    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:58 -0700
                      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 20:04 -0700
                    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 18:45 -0700
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 22:52 +0000
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 16:23 -0700
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 16:31 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 16:40 -0700
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 16:38 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:10 -0700
        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 14:16 -0700
        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 07:03 -0500
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 13:13 +0000
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 08:46 -0500
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 15:46 +0000
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:33 -0700
                  Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 16:40 +0000
                    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:51 -0700
                      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 10:06 -0700
                      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 17:12 +0000
                        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 10:21 -0700
                          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 10:37 -0700
                          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:15 -0700
                        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:14 -0700
                      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 12:33 -0500
                      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:12 -0700
                        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 13:00 -0700
                          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 13:16 -0700
                            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 14:03 -0700
                              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-28 08:11 -0700
                                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 08:23 -0700
                                  Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-28 09:01 -0700
                                    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter GasPipe <vinnythegaspipe@motz.org> - 2018-07-28 13:18 -0400
                                    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 09:16 -0700
                                      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 09:28 -0700
                    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:12 -0700
                  Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:50 -0700
                  Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 12:31 -0500
                  Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:07 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 12:23 -0500
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 11:59 -0700
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 11:50 -0700
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 19:36 +0000
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 14:49 -0500
                  Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 13:12 -0700
                  Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 22:32 +0000
                    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 15:33 -0700
                    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-30 07:23 -0500
                      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 05:40 -0700
                      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-30 07:45 -0500
                        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 08:58 -0700
                        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 16:13 +0000
                          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 09:26 -0700
                        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2018-08-06 11:57 -0400
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 13:09 -0700
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 11:14 -0700
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 11:03 -0700
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 19:35 +0000
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 14:47 -0500
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 13:11 -0700
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 13:08 -0700

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#459685

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-07-26 13:55 -0700
Message-ID<fruqpnFu1U4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#459674
On 7/26/18 1:15 PM, RonB wrote:
> On 2018-07-26, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> SilverSlimer wrote:
>>
>>> Killing every one of the socialists' arguments.
>>
>> Quote and name the source of the "argument" that was "killed",
>> "Slimer".
>>
>> I don't think that anyone has denied that radical Muslims are killing
>> innocent people, in countries all over the world.
>>
>> Idiot.
> 
> And yet the reporting of this incident is relatively muted. No calls for the
> Muslim community to "take responsibility."

Sure there are... heck, there are fewer calls for the Christian 
community to take responsibility.

> No talk about "Muslim privilige"

There is talk about equal rights.

> or "social justice." We've even told that his parents are the "victims."

By anyone other than the straw man?

> Just
> imagine if, instead of yet another Muslim going bazoo, it would have been a
> white evangelical Christian going whack-a-doodle crazy in a black
> neighborhood. Even you've got to admit there would be HUGE differnce in the
> reporting (how widely the story would be reported and what slant the
> mainstream media would use). And yet Muslims are almost ALWAYS the
> terrorists worldwide.

There WOULD be a huge difference in the reporting... if he was Christian 
they would barely mention it!



-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#459681

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-07-26 20:47 +0000
Message-ID<crq6D.405541$6C5.79168@fx07.iad>
In reply to#459649
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:18:45 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> SilverSlimer wrote:
> 
>>Killing every one of the socialists' arguments.
> 
> Quote and name the source of the "argument" that was "killed", "Slimer".
> 
> I don't think that anyone has denied that radical Muslims are killing
> innocent people, in countries all over the world.
> 
> Idiot.

Actually, the media _constantly_ does by making it sound like the killer 
is not a "true Muslim," that the actions are "not representative of the 
faith" or that the killer had "mental issues" despite no evidence of any 
such thing.

The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of the 
Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying out 
such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope for peace 
so long as Islam exists.

-- 
SilverSlimer
Ubuntu 18.04 on MSI GT72 2QD

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#459687

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-07-26 14:00 -0700
Message-ID<frur3dF42oU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#459681
On 7/26/18 1:47 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:18:45 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> 
>> SilverSlimer wrote:
>>
>>> Killing every one of the socialists' arguments.
>>
>> Quote and name the source of the "argument" that was "killed", "Slimer".
>>
>> I don't think that anyone has denied that radical Muslims are killing
>> innocent people, in countries all over the world.
>>
>> Idiot.
> 
> Actually, the media _constantly_ does by making it sound like the killer
> is not a "true Muslim," that the actions are "not representative of the
> faith" or that the killer had "mental issues" despite no evidence of any
> such thing.

Notice they do not even HAVE to with Christians because there are not 
people insisting that Christianity pushes people to do what the bible 
teaches is right.

> The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of the
> Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying out
> such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope for peace
> so long as Islam exists.

You keep pretending that Qu'ran is somehow a worse book than the Bible.



-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#459691

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-26 14:48 -0700
Message-ID<90867cc6-bd20-4773-bf7b-eea311b8819d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#459687
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 3:00:32 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> On 7/26/18 1:47 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:18:45 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> > 
> >> SilverSlimer wrote:
> >>
> >>> Killing every one of the socialists' arguments.
> >>
> >> Quote and name the source of the "argument" that was "killed", "Slimer".
> >>
> >> I don't think that anyone has denied that radical Muslims are killing
> >> innocent people, in countries all over the world.
> >>
> >> Idiot.
> > 
> > Actually, the media _constantly_ does by making it sound like the killer
> > is not a "true Muslim," that the actions are "not representative of the
> > faith" or that the killer had "mental issues" despite no evidence of any
> > such thing.
> 
> Notice they do not even HAVE to with Christians because there are not 
> people insisting that Christianity pushes people to do what the bible 
> teaches is right.
> 
> > The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of the
> > Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying out
> > such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope for peace
> > so long as Islam exists.
> 
> You keep pretending that Qu'ran is somehow a worse book than the Bible.

(if you're just gonna tie it to a book... note: I'm adhering to the *context* here)

So it's just that simple to you? Really?! What's in the book, forget the people. 

LOL! <shaking head in total disbelief>

To me, it's more a matter of reality, Staying tied to the 'book' context while 
still recognizing reality:

Who are more the faithful followers of their book as a group? 

Every serious study or poll I've seen in the last decade or two gives the edge 
to those in the fastest growing religion, Muslims (over Jews, as well).

But here's the real question between them regarding 'book' violence:
Where is there a 'New Testament' in the Quran? 

There isn't one, not in the same sense, and it's notable that Islam considers 
the Bible's New Testament to be untrustworthy (humans had their hands on it).

I realize you're trying to make an agenda driven point but it's not so goofily cut 
and dried as you've presented it. You'd have to look at the above (at least) which, 
if true (and I believe they both are, you can do your own research) grinds the teeth 
off of whatever point you thought you were making.

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#459695

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-07-26 15:02 -0700
Message-ID<fruuo6FuaaU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#459691
On 7/26/18 2:48 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 3:00:32 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>> On 7/26/18 1:47 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:18:45 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>>> SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Killing every one of the socialists' arguments.
>>>>
>>>> Quote and name the source of the "argument" that was "killed", "Slimer".
>>>>
>>>> I don't think that anyone has denied that radical Muslims are killing
>>>> innocent people, in countries all over the world.
>>>>
>>>> Idiot.
>>>
>>> Actually, the media _constantly_ does by making it sound like the killer
>>> is not a "true Muslim," that the actions are "not representative of the
>>> faith" or that the killer had "mental issues" despite no evidence of any
>>> such thing.
>>
>> Notice they do not even HAVE to with Christians because there are not
>> people insisting that Christianity pushes people to do what the bible
>> teaches is right.
>>
>>> The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of the
>>> Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying out
>>> such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope for peace
>>> so long as Islam exists.
>>
>> You keep pretending that Qu'ran is somehow a worse book than the Bible.
> 
> (if you're just gonna tie it to a book... note: I'm adhering to the *context* here)

Slimer is the one who brought up the Qu'ran. I merely compared it to the 
Bible. They are similar books... both filled with HORRIBLE lessons.

And, of course there are people of both religions who do good things and 
people who do bad things. Same with people of other religions and with 
atheists.

There are polls showing Muslims IN GENERAL tend to have more extreme 
(and more right wing) views, though there is also some evidence Muslims 
in the US are actually less so than US Christians, at least in some areas.

It ties more to region of the world than to religion -- and this is true 
of both religions.

...
> But here's the real question between them regarding 'book' violence:
> Where is there a 'New Testament' in the Quran?

What? You are looking for a Qu'ran New Testiment? Um, good luck, I 
guess. Not really relevant here, though.

...


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#459700

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-26 15:22 -0700
Message-ID<f78734b8-70d0-4132-9692-fdb609b28694@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#459695
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 4:02:49 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> On 7/26/18 2:48 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 3:00:32 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> >> On 7/26/18 1:47 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:18:45 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> SilverSlimer wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Killing every one of the socialists' arguments.
> >>>>
> >>>> Quote and name the source of the "argument" that was "killed", "Slimer".
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't think that anyone has denied that radical Muslims are killing
> >>>> innocent people, in countries all over the world.
> >>>>
> >>>> Idiot.
> >>>
> >>> Actually, the media _constantly_ does by making it sound like the killer
> >>> is not a "true Muslim," that the actions are "not representative of the
> >>> faith" or that the killer had "mental issues" despite no evidence of any
> >>> such thing.
> >>
> >> Notice they do not even HAVE to with Christians because there are not
> >> people insisting that Christianity pushes people to do what the bible
> >> teaches is right.
> >>
> >>> The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of the
> >>> Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying out
> >>> such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope for peace
> >>> so long as Islam exists.
> >>
> >> You keep pretending that Qu'ran is somehow a worse book than the Bible.
> > 
> > (if you're just gonna tie it to a book... note: I'm adhering to the *context* here)
> 
> Slimer is the one who brought up the Qu'ran. 

LOL! I don't need an interpreter, and I wouldn't choose you if I did ;)

"The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of the 
Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying out 
such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope for peace 
so long as Islam exists." SilverSlimer

He brought it up in the same context that I did, the reality of people 'acting' on it.

> I merely compared it to the Bible. 

No, what you did was focus *solely* on two 'books' as the context, to the exclusion 
of "actions" ("attacks") taken by the (alleged) follower of the faith.

> They are similar books... both filled with HORRIBLE lessons.

As books do not take "actions", that's completely irrelevant.

> ...
> > But here's the real question between them regarding 'book' violence:
> > Where is there a 'New Testament' in the Quran?
> 
> What? You are looking for a Qu'ran New Testiment? Um, good luck, I 
> guess. Not really relevant here, though.

My point is obvious to anyone who can read and understands what the 
New Testament is. As you fail on both counts, that doesn't include you.

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#459708

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-26 16:07 -0700
Message-ID<12cc3455-b7c1-438a-b76a-8ebb619d2d8a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#459700
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 3:22:06 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 4:02:49 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> > On 7/26/18 2:48 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 3:00:32 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> > >> On 7/26/18 1:47 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> > >>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:18:45 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> SilverSlimer wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Killing every one of the socialists' arguments.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Quote and name the source of the "argument" that was "killed", "Slimer".
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I don't think that anyone has denied that radical Muslims are killing
> > >>>> innocent people, in countries all over the world.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Idiot.
> > >>>
> > >>> Actually, the media _constantly_ does by making it sound like the killer
> > >>> is not a "true Muslim," that the actions are "not representative of the
> > >>> faith" or that the killer had "mental issues" despite no evidence of any
> > >>> such thing.
> > >>
> > >> Notice they do not even HAVE to with Christians because there are not
> > >> people insisting that Christianity pushes people to do what the bible
> > >> teaches is right.
> > >>
> > >>> The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of the
> > >>> Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying out
> > >>> such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope for peace
> > >>> so long as Islam exists.
> > >>
> > >> You keep pretending that Qu'ran is somehow a worse book than the Bible.
> > > 
> > > (if you're just gonna tie it to a book... note: I'm adhering to the *context* here)
> > 
> > Slimer is the one who brought up the Qu'ran. 
> 
> LOL! I don't need an interpreter, and I wouldn't choose you if I did ;)
> 
> "The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of the 
> Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying out 
> such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope for peace 
> so long as Islam exists." SilverSlimer
> 
> He brought it up in the same context that I did, the reality of people 'acting' on it.
> 
> > I merely compared it to the Bible. 
> 
> No, what you did was focus *solely* on two 'books' as the context, to the exclusion 
> of "actions" ("attacks") taken by the (alleged) follower of the faith.
> 
> > They are similar books... both filled with HORRIBLE lessons.
> 
> As books do not take "actions", that's completely irrelevant.
> 
> > ...
> > > But here's the real question between them regarding 'book' violence:
> > > Where is there a 'New Testament' in the Quran?
> > 
> > What? You are looking for a Qu'ran New Testiment? Um, good luck, I 
> > guess. Not really relevant here, though.
> 
> My point is obvious to anyone who can read and understands what the 
> New Testament is. As you fail on both counts, that doesn't include you.



Sandman blames Jonas Eklundh Communication AB for what others do. Here is a list of names Jonas Eklundh has admitted he attributes to Jonas Eklundh Communication AB "Cactus Pete", "Donald", "Donald Miller", "Horace McSwain", "Hymen", "meat", "Mike Weaver", "Modena IV Drid", "Omar Murad Asfour", "Rhino Plastee", "Soapy", "SopwithCamel", "Sunny Day", "Takuya Saitoh", "The Letter Q", "tmelmosfire", "zevon". Jonas Eklundh Communication AB claims to be the programming guru. Let us see him put up a form but lacking the automated routines.What's Jonas Eklundh Communication AB's poison for the flooding nonsense? JavaScript? That is the only language he knows, and it is a joke. He must be abusing it to create these goofy "group-killer" garbage posts. My theory, Jonas Eklundh Communication AB took some code that he stole and blamed Steve Carroll for... he's feeding it Steve Carroll's posts, grabbing offensive paragraphs, then editing those using a neural network and then he actively posts them because his obsessiveness enables him to do that ceaselessly. Steve Carroll reported him years ago. As expected, it did not a thing to thwart the k00k. 

Don't look now, but I think Jonas Eklundh Communication AB has a serious fascination with Steve Carroll. 

These posts are clearly NOT automated, they are made by an overmedicated insomniac with a personal vendetta who has way too much time on his hands (and possibly has other trolls helping him). An unceasing, relentless, posting itch, while suffering from an empty mind - fundamentally slippery Jonas Eklundh Communication AB cartographers, and vigorously-greased ram, deactivated with wit for his own secret purposes. 



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#459714

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-07-26 16:33 -0700
Message-ID<frv433F20veU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#459700
On 7/26/18 3:22 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 4:02:49 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>> On 7/26/18 2:48 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 3:00:32 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 7/26/18 1:47 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:18:45 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Killing every one of the socialists' arguments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quote and name the source of the "argument" that was "killed", "Slimer".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think that anyone has denied that radical Muslims are killing
>>>>>> innocent people, in countries all over the world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, the media _constantly_ does by making it sound like the killer
>>>>> is not a "true Muslim," that the actions are "not representative of the
>>>>> faith" or that the killer had "mental issues" despite no evidence of any
>>>>> such thing.
>>>>
>>>> Notice they do not even HAVE to with Christians because there are not
>>>> people insisting that Christianity pushes people to do what the bible
>>>> teaches is right.
>>>>
>>>>> The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of the
>>>>> Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying out
>>>>> such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope for peace
>>>>> so long as Islam exists.
>>>>
>>>> You keep pretending that Qu'ran is somehow a worse book than the Bible.
>>>
>>> (if you're just gonna tie it to a book... note: I'm adhering to the *context* here)
>>
>> Slimer is the one who brought up the Qu'ran.
> 
> LOL! I don't need an interpreter, and I wouldn't choose you if I did ;)
> 
> "The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of the
> Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying out
> such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope for peace
> so long as Islam exists." SilverSlimer
> 
> He brought it up in the same context that I did, the reality of people 'acting' on it.

And he groups all Muslims in a very bigoted way, something you rarely if 
ever call him out on. In this case he used the Qu'ran to defend his 
bigotry against Muslims -- as if the Qu'ran is especially bad. Given how 
it is comparable to the Bible, of course, his reasoning is faulty. That 
is what I noted.

I am not here to help you understand basic concepts or understand the 
flow of a conversation. Your challenges there are your own.

...
>>> But here's the real question between them regarding 'book' violence:
>>> Where is there a 'New Testament' in the Quran?
>>
>> What? You are looking for a Qu'ran New Testiment? Um, good luck, I
>> guess. Not really relevant here, though.
> 
> My point is obvious to anyone who can read and understands what the
> New Testament is. As you fail on both counts, that doesn't include you.

I get that you have some unstated assumption about the New Testament 
which presumably would, if true, make the Bible not AS BAD as the 
Qu'ran. You have not stated what your assumptions about the New 
Testament are, and I suspect you never will. You dance around your views 
and expect myself and others to read your mind. I am letting you know I 
am not interested in that type of conversation.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#459723

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-26 17:27 -0700
Message-ID<98e398b5-dd53-4f5c-8b19-29824514554b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#459714
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 5:33:57 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> On 7/26/18 3:22 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 4:02:49 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> >> On 7/26/18 2:48 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 3:00:32 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> >>>> On 7/26/18 1:47 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:18:45 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> SilverSlimer wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Killing every one of the socialists' arguments.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Quote and name the source of the "argument" that was "killed", "Slimer".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't think that anyone has denied that radical Muslims are killing
> >>>>>> innocent people, in countries all over the world.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Idiot.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Actually, the media _constantly_ does by making it sound like the killer
> >>>>> is not a "true Muslim," that the actions are "not representative of the
> >>>>> faith" or that the killer had "mental issues" despite no evidence of any
> >>>>> such thing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Notice they do not even HAVE to with Christians because there are not
> >>>> people insisting that Christianity pushes people to do what the bible
> >>>> teaches is right.
> >>>>
> >>>>> The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of the
> >>>>> Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying out
> >>>>> such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope for peace
> >>>>> so long as Islam exists.
> >>>>
> >>>> You keep pretending that Qu'ran is somehow a worse book than the Bible.
> >>>
> >>> (if you're just gonna tie it to a book... note: I'm adhering to the *context* here)
> >>
> >> Slimer is the one who brought up the Qu'ran.
> > 
> > LOL! I don't need an interpreter, and I wouldn't choose you if I did ;)
> > 
> > "The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of the
> > Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying out
> > such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope for peace
> > so long as Islam exists." SilverSlimer
> > 
> > He brought it up in the same context that I did, the reality of people 'acting' on it.
> 
> And he 

He isn't the issue I'm addressing so trying to shine the light away
from your statement won't work.


> I am not here to help you understand basic concepts or understand the 
> flow of a conversation. 

That's good because you're woefully unprepared for such a task.

> Your challenges there are your own.

Oh, I realize you'll never be honest, but I don't need that challenge met ;)

> 
> ...
> >>> But here's the real question between them regarding 'book' violence:
> >>> Where is there a 'New Testament' in the Quran?
> >>
> >> What? You are looking for a Qu'ran New Testiment? Um, good luck, I
> >> guess. Not really relevant here, though.
> > 
> > My point is obvious to anyone who can read and understands what the
> > New Testament is. As you fail on both counts, that doesn't include you.
> 
> I get that you have some unstated assumption about the New Testament 
> which presumably would, if true, make the Bible not AS BAD as the 
> Qu'ran. You have not stated what your assumptions about the New 
> Testament are, and I suspect you never will. 

If you knew anything at all about the topic you wouldn't need to hear it... but it's not relevant because it was merely used as an 'if true, then...' opposition to what you thought was a well formed, 'logical' argument...
and I use that term loosely ;)

> You dance around your views 
> and expect myself and others to read your mind. I am letting you know I 
> am not interested in that type of conversation.

You're not interested in anything to do with reality. You whine and beg 
me to talk about tech, politics, religion, etc. when I do you still whine and lie your ass off. 

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#459724

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-07-26 17:33 -0700
Message-ID<frv7i5F2ms1U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#459723
On 7/26/18 5:27 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:

...

>>>>> But here's the real question between them regarding 'book' violence:
>>>>> Where is there a 'New Testament' in the Quran?
>>>>
>>>> What? You are looking for a Qu'ran New Testiment? Um, good luck, I
>>>> guess. Not really relevant here, though.
>>>
>>> My point is obvious to anyone who can read and understands what the
>>> New Testament is. As you fail on both counts, that doesn't include you.
>>
>> I get that you have some unstated assumption about the New Testament
>> which presumably would, if true, make the Bible not AS BAD as the
>> Qu'ran. You have not stated what your assumptions about the New
>> Testament are, and I suspect you never will.
> 
> If you knew anything at all about the topic you wouldn't need to hear it... but it's not relevant because it was merely used as an 'if true, then...' opposition to what you thought was a well formed, 'logical' argument...
> and I use that term loosely ;)
> 
>> You dance around your views
>> and expect myself and others to read your mind. I am letting you know I
>> am not interested in that type of conversation.
> 
> You're not interested in anything to do with reality. You whine and beg
> me to talk about tech, politics, religion, etc. when I do you still whine and lie your ass off.

So no comment about your assumptions... but you want me to guess. Then 
you can complain about me "speaking for you" or whatever.

Go play games with others.


-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#459728

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-26 17:44 -0700
Message-ID<cda1db85-5536-4cb1-b455-f7386e3f6fc5@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#459724
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 6:33:13 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:

> Go play games with others.

I give you what you want and you still whine. Like I said, you're
always constantly negative, paranoid, etc. Can't win with you...

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#459731

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-26 18:29 -0700
Message-ID<976ce564-e94b-43d2-9ea7-1910c5bbdadf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#459728
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 5:44:25 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 6:33:13 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> 
> > Go play games with others.
> 
> I give you what you want and you still whine. Like I said, you're
> always constantly negative, paranoid, etc. Can't win with you...



How is GIMP on Linux doing anything above the lowest common denominator? My view is much more sophisticated. Despite Klaus 'The Moron' Schadenfreude's claim that he has "no interest in making enemies" (a lie as proved by the fact that he slammed Sandman's site) he was quoted asking others how they would automate posting through Google Groups. 

It's trivial to distort the truth by bragging about a small number of exceptions clashing from what's truly representative. What matters more from an honest advocates opinion are the ordinary operations. Sandman has been around to fully understand the depths of Klaus 'The Moron' Schadenfreude's perversion. 



--
"You'll notice how quickly he loses interest when everything is about him. He clearly wants the attention"
Steve Carroll, making the dumbest comment ever uttered.

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#459745

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-26 22:22 -0700
Message-ID<3dacfe3f-03fd-4df2-87a8-e68c1d88b954@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#459731
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 6:29:21 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 5:44:25 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 6:33:13 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> > 
> > > Go play games with others.
> > 
> > I give you what you want and you still whine. Like I said, you're
> > always constantly negative, paranoid, etc. Can't win with you...
> 
> 
> 
> How is GIMP on Linux doing anything above the lowest common denominator? My view is much more sophisticated. Despite Klaus 'The Moron' Schadenfreude's claim that he has "no interest in making enemies" (a lie as proved by the fact that he slammed Sandman's site) he was quoted asking others how they would automate posting through Google Groups. 
> 
> It's trivial to distort the truth by bragging about a small number of exceptions clashing from what's truly representative. What matters more from an honest advocates opinion are the ordinary operations. Sandman has been around to fully understand the depths of Klaus 'The Moron' Schadenfreude's perversion. 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> "You'll notice how quickly he loses interest when everything is about him. He clearly wants the attention"
> Steve Carroll, making the dumbest comment ever uttered.



Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh has cut down on the hundreds of self promoting, idiotic posts he used to create but he's certainly unchanged in the honesty area. He simple uses psychological manipulation more to spawn those posts. I thought showing him I know where he lives might help the situation. It did not. 

What Klaus Schadenfreude does is certainly better. You've proven only what a moron you are. Times change. Maybe the ubiquity of a newspaper is getting to be old fashion. Can UTF-8 characters be concatenated into a string with a logical connection to the "real" world; that is the question posed recently by those astonished at the endless babbling of "advocates" and Cheetos smelling losers. LXQt's update system failed over and over again. 



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#459729

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-26 17:58 -0700
Message-ID<085cae81-c747-425a-b94e-14c6bfc4587e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#459723
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 5:27:50 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 5:33:57 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> > On 7/26/18 3:22 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 4:02:49 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> > >> On 7/26/18 2:48 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > >>> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 3:00:32 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> > >>>> On 7/26/18 1:47 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> > >>>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:18:45 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> SilverSlimer wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Killing every one of the socialists' arguments.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Quote and name the source of the "argument" that was "killed", "Slimer".
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I don't think that anyone has denied that radical Muslims are killing
> > >>>>>> innocent people, in countries all over the world.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Idiot.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Actually, the media _constantly_ does by making it sound like the killer
> > >>>>> is not a "true Muslim," that the actions are "not representative of the
> > >>>>> faith" or that the killer had "mental issues" despite no evidence of any
> > >>>>> such thing.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Notice they do not even HAVE to with Christians because there are not
> > >>>> people insisting that Christianity pushes people to do what the bible
> > >>>> teaches is right.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of the
> > >>>>> Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying out
> > >>>>> such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope for peace
> > >>>>> so long as Islam exists.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You keep pretending that Qu'ran is somehow a worse book than the Bible.
> > >>>
> > >>> (if you're just gonna tie it to a book... note: I'm adhering to the *context* here)
> > >>
> > >> Slimer is the one who brought up the Qu'ran.
> > > 
> > > LOL! I don't need an interpreter, and I wouldn't choose you if I did ;)
> > > 
> > > "The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of the
> > > Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying out
> > > such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope for peace
> > > so long as Islam exists." SilverSlimer
> > > 
> > > He brought it up in the same context that I did, the reality of people 'acting' on it.
> > 
> > And he 
> 
> He isn't the issue I'm addressing so trying to shine the light away
> from your statement won't work.
> 
> 
> > I am not here to help you understand basic concepts or understand the 
> > flow of a conversation. 
> 
> That's good because you're woefully unprepared for such a task.
> 
> > Your challenges there are your own.
> 
> Oh, I realize you'll never be honest, but I don't need that challenge met ;)
> 
> > 
> > ...
> > >>> But here's the real question between them regarding 'book' violence:
> > >>> Where is there a 'New Testament' in the Quran?
> > >>
> > >> What? You are looking for a Qu'ran New Testiment? Um, good luck, I
> > >> guess. Not really relevant here, though.
> > > 
> > > My point is obvious to anyone who can read and understands what the
> > > New Testament is. As you fail on both counts, that doesn't include you.
> > 
> > I get that you have some unstated assumption about the New Testament 
> > which presumably would, if true, make the Bible not AS BAD as the 
> > Qu'ran. You have not stated what your assumptions about the New 
> > Testament are, and I suspect you never will. 
> 
> If you knew anything at all about the topic you wouldn't need to hear it... but it's not relevant because it was merely used as an 'if true, then...' opposition to what you thought was a well formed, 'logical' argument...
> and I use that term loosely ;)
> 
> > You dance around your views 
> > and expect myself and others to read your mind. I am letting you know I 
> > am not interested in that type of conversation.
> 
> You're not interested in anything to do with reality. You whine and beg 
> me to talk about tech, politics, religion, etc. when I do you still whine and lie your ass off.



Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll's obsession with Klaus Schadenfreude started in 2004 when Carroll got mad about his then girlfriend obsessing over Klaus Schadenfreude (heavily documented here: <http://tinyurl.com/proof-about-ebot>). Klaus Schadenfreude continued to respond to Steve for about 5 years, when Steve flipped out in 2009 and started contacting Klaus Schadenfreude's employer with the stated goal to have him fired (he spoke of doing so even if he had to twist arms):

    <http://goo.gl/OHNryA> 
    <http://goo.gl/MZ6yCD>
    <http://goo.gl/WaKKGq>

There were more, but Carroll has had them deleted from the Google archive. I have not spent the time to find them elsewhere (and likely will not).
    
With that Klaus Schadenfreude stopped responding directly to Steve except for *one* chance he gave him in 2011 when Steve was accusing *Klaus Schadenfreude* of running: <http://goo.gl/racU64>.

Carroll, as predicted, ran (he always does when faced with facts):
<http://goo.gl/qHs5Xh>

Steven Petruzzellis knows he has no backing for any of his nonsense and has become, if anything, more and more obsessive since Klaus Schadenfreude stopped responding to him.

Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll is truly a very, very sick man.

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#459736

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-26 20:04 -0700
Message-ID<8ff45a0e-48d5-45b6-8225-85fda5a941ac@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#459729
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 5:58:10 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 5:27:50 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 5:33:57 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> > > On 7/26/18 3:22 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 4:02:49 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> > > >> On 7/26/18 2:48 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > > >>> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 3:00:32 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> > > >>>> On 7/26/18 1:47 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> > > >>>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:18:45 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> SilverSlimer wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Killing every one of the socialists' arguments.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Quote and name the source of the "argument" that was "killed", "Slimer".
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I don't think that anyone has denied that radical Muslims are killing
> > > >>>>>> innocent people, in countries all over the world.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Idiot.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Actually, the media _constantly_ does by making it sound like the killer
> > > >>>>> is not a "true Muslim," that the actions are "not representative of the
> > > >>>>> faith" or that the killer had "mental issues" despite no evidence of any
> > > >>>>> such thing.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Notice they do not even HAVE to with Christians because there are not
> > > >>>> people insisting that Christianity pushes people to do what the bible
> > > >>>> teaches is right.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of the
> > > >>>>> Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying out
> > > >>>>> such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope for peace
> > > >>>>> so long as Islam exists.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> You keep pretending that Qu'ran is somehow a worse book than the Bible.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> (if you're just gonna tie it to a book... note: I'm adhering to the *context* here)
> > > >>
> > > >> Slimer is the one who brought up the Qu'ran.
> > > > 
> > > > LOL! I don't need an interpreter, and I wouldn't choose you if I did ;)
> > > > 
> > > > "The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of the
> > > > Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying out
> > > > such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope for peace
> > > > so long as Islam exists." SilverSlimer
> > > > 
> > > > He brought it up in the same context that I did, the reality of people 'acting' on it.
> > > 
> > > And he 
> > 
> > He isn't the issue I'm addressing so trying to shine the light away
> > from your statement won't work.
> > 
> > 
> > > I am not here to help you understand basic concepts or understand the 
> > > flow of a conversation. 
> > 
> > That's good because you're woefully unprepared for such a task.
> > 
> > > Your challenges there are your own.
> > 
> > Oh, I realize you'll never be honest, but I don't need that challenge met ;)
> > 
> > > 
> > > ...
> > > >>> But here's the real question between them regarding 'book' violence:
> > > >>> Where is there a 'New Testament' in the Quran?
> > > >>
> > > >> What? You are looking for a Qu'ran New Testiment? Um, good luck, I
> > > >> guess. Not really relevant here, though.
> > > > 
> > > > My point is obvious to anyone who can read and understands what the
> > > > New Testament is. As you fail on both counts, that doesn't include you.
> > > 
> > > I get that you have some unstated assumption about the New Testament 
> > > which presumably would, if true, make the Bible not AS BAD as the 
> > > Qu'ran. You have not stated what your assumptions about the New 
> > > Testament are, and I suspect you never will. 
> > 
> > If you knew anything at all about the topic you wouldn't need to hear it... but it's not relevant because it was merely used as an 'if true, then...' opposition to what you thought was a well formed, 'logical' argument...
> > and I use that term loosely ;)
> > 
> > > You dance around your views 
> > > and expect myself and others to read your mind. I am letting you know I 
> > > am not interested in that type of conversation.
> > 
> > You're not interested in anything to do with reality. You whine and beg 
> > me to talk about tech, politics, religion, etc. when I do you still whine and lie your ass off.
> 
> 
> 
> Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll's obsession with Klaus Schadenfreude started in 2004 when Carroll got mad about his then girlfriend obsessing over Klaus Schadenfreude (heavily documented here: <http://tinyurl.com/proof-about-ebot>). Klaus Schadenfreude continued to respond to Steve for about 5 years, when Steve flipped out in 2009 and started contacting Klaus Schadenfreude's employer with the stated goal to have him fired (he spoke of doing so even if he had to twist arms):
> 
>     <http://goo.gl/OHNryA> 
>     <http://goo.gl/MZ6yCD>
>     <http://goo.gl/WaKKGq>
> 
> There were more, but Carroll has had them deleted from the Google archive. I have not spent the time to find them elsewhere (and likely will not).
>     
> With that Klaus Schadenfreude stopped responding directly to Steve except for *one* chance he gave him in 2011 when Steve was accusing *Klaus Schadenfreude* of running: <http://goo.gl/racU64>.
> 
> Carroll, as predicted, ran (he always does when faced with facts):
> <http://goo.gl/qHs5Xh>
> 
> Steven Petruzzellis knows he has no backing for any of his nonsense and has become, if anything, more and more obsessive since Klaus Schadenfreude stopped responding to him.
> 
> Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll is truly a very, very sick man.
> 
> --
> Curious how these posts are made? www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZNxaaKD7-c



Despite my own avoidance of Ubuntu, I nonetheless continue to load it for clients who have had complications with OS X. That is the problem today and uneducated educators don't care at all; people from past generations (~50 yo) are the only ones who know better than to fall for socialism. Now that Klaus Schadenfreude appreciated how successful Snit is at playing 'target' he understands this is not quite as bizarre as it appeared. Just give it up already. You're again trying to act like you know as much as Klaus Schadenfreude. You're the court jester and your many hare-brained tasks show this. Snit has yet to show how Forth does anything above the lowest common denominator on Linux. These posts are clearly not automated, they are made by Snit who is a glue sniffing loser with a personal vendetta who has way too much time on his hands (and possibly has other shills helping him). 

You are safe as a Forth user can be. 

Reviewing Linux... forever a neophyte. 



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#459732

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-26 18:45 -0700
Message-ID<6e566c08-2d16-4c1e-8db9-5c3c07c8cb99@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#459723
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 5:27:50 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 5:33:57 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> > On 7/26/18 3:22 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 4:02:49 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> > >> On 7/26/18 2:48 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > >>> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 3:00:32 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> > >>>> On 7/26/18 1:47 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> > >>>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:18:45 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> SilverSlimer wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Killing every one of the socialists' arguments.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Quote and name the source of the "argument" that was "killed", "Slimer".
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I don't think that anyone has denied that radical Muslims are killing
> > >>>>>> innocent people, in countries all over the world.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Idiot.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Actually, the media _constantly_ does by making it sound like the killer
> > >>>>> is not a "true Muslim," that the actions are "not representative of the
> > >>>>> faith" or that the killer had "mental issues" despite no evidence of any
> > >>>>> such thing.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Notice they do not even HAVE to with Christians because there are not
> > >>>> people insisting that Christianity pushes people to do what the bible
> > >>>> teaches is right.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of the
> > >>>>> Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying out
> > >>>>> such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope for peace
> > >>>>> so long as Islam exists.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You keep pretending that Qu'ran is somehow a worse book than the Bible.
> > >>>
> > >>> (if you're just gonna tie it to a book... note: I'm adhering to the *context* here)
> > >>
> > >> Slimer is the one who brought up the Qu'ran.
> > > 
> > > LOL! I don't need an interpreter, and I wouldn't choose you if I did ;)
> > > 
> > > "The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of the
> > > Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying out
> > > such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope for peace
> > > so long as Islam exists." SilverSlimer
> > > 
> > > He brought it up in the same context that I did, the reality of people 'acting' on it.
> > 
> > And he 
> 
> He isn't the issue I'm addressing so trying to shine the light away
> from your statement won't work.
> 
> 
> > I am not here to help you understand basic concepts or understand the 
> > flow of a conversation. 
> 
> That's good because you're woefully unprepared for such a task.
> 
> > Your challenges there are your own.
> 
> Oh, I realize you'll never be honest, but I don't need that challenge met ;)
> 
> > 
> > ...
> > >>> But here's the real question between them regarding 'book' violence:
> > >>> Where is there a 'New Testament' in the Quran?
> > >>
> > >> What? You are looking for a Qu'ran New Testiment? Um, good luck, I
> > >> guess. Not really relevant here, though.
> > > 
> > > My point is obvious to anyone who can read and understands what the
> > > New Testament is. As you fail on both counts, that doesn't include you.
> > 
> > I get that you have some unstated assumption about the New Testament 
> > which presumably would, if true, make the Bible not AS BAD as the 
> > Qu'ran. You have not stated what your assumptions about the New 
> > Testament are, and I suspect you never will. 
> 
> If you knew anything at all about the topic you wouldn't need to hear it... but it's not relevant because it was merely used as an 'if true, then...' opposition to what you thought was a well formed, 'logical' argument...
> and I use that term loosely ;)
> 
> > You dance around your views 
> > and expect myself and others to read your mind. I am letting you know I 
> > am not interested in that type of conversation.
> 
> You're not interested in anything to do with reality. You whine and beg 
> me to talk about tech, politics, religion, etc. when I do you still whine and lie your ass off.



I reported Takuya 'The Shill' Saitoh years ago. As expected, it did nothing to derail the boob. 

Heck, just recently he was declaring himself the only "true Linux advocate", and claiming that "advocates" (in satire-quotes, who he also refers to as "the herd") are trying to rewrite Fedora from scratch. 

Klaus Schadenfreude can create a virtual machine. Makes Takuya 'The Shill' Saitoh cry because he can not. For all the bragging Takuya 'The Shill' Saitoh has done on this topic, the 'Phd.' does not get how to do this. It really takes a couple seconds to highlight text and 'sign' it. What did Klaus Schadenfreude expect from the lying imbecile? That Takuya 'The Shill' Saitoh halfwit has nothing to blow but time. He has nothing else. Especially not a girlfriend. 



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#459704

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-07-26 22:52 +0000
Message-ID<Jgs6D.472209$br4.234420@fx34.iad>
In reply to#459691
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 14:48:58 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:

> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 3:00:32 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>> On 7/26/18 1:47 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> > On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:18:45 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>> > 
>> >> SilverSlimer wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Killing every one of the socialists' arguments.
>> >>
>> >> Quote and name the source of the "argument" that was "killed",
>> >> "Slimer".
>> >>
>> >> I don't think that anyone has denied that radical Muslims are
>> >> killing innocent people, in countries all over the world.
>> >>
>> >> Idiot.
>> > 
>> > Actually, the media _constantly_ does by making it sound like the
>> > killer is not a "true Muslim," that the actions are "not
>> > representative of the faith" or that the killer had "mental issues"
>> > despite no evidence of any such thing.
>> 
>> Notice they do not even HAVE to with Christians because there are not
>> people insisting that Christianity pushes people to do what the bible
>> teaches is right.
>> 
>> > The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of
>> > the Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying
>> > out such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope
>> > for peace so long as Islam exists.
>> 
>> You keep pretending that Qu'ran is somehow a worse book than the Bible.

It's statements like these which ensure that Snit will go to Hell after 
his death where he'll debate Satan.

> (if you're just gonna tie it to a book... note: I'm adhering to the
> *context* here)
> 
> So it's just that simple to you? Really?! What's in the book, forget the
> people.
> 
> LOL! <shaking head in total disbelief>
> 
> To me, it's more a matter of reality, Staying tied to the 'book' context
> while still recognizing reality:
> 
> Who are more the faithful followers of their book as a group?
> 
> Every serious study or poll I've seen in the last decade or two gives
> the edge to those in the fastest growing religion, Muslims (over Jews,
> as well).

The statement that Islam is the fastest growing religion is a lie. 
<https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Fastest_Growing_Religion>

> But here's the real question between them regarding 'book' violence:
> Where is there a 'New Testament' in the Quran?
> 
> There isn't one, not in the same sense, and it's notable that Islam
> considers the Bible's New Testament to be untrustworthy (humans had
> their hands on it).
> 
> I realize you're trying to make an agenda driven point but it's not so
> goofily cut and dried as you've presented it. You'd have to look at the
> above (at least) which, if true (and I believe they both are, you can do
> your own research) grinds the teeth off of whatever point you thought
> you were making.

The fact that Muslims don't approve of the Bible because "humans had 
their hands on it" is hilarious considering how many different versions 
of the Qu'ran are in existence, how easily Muhammad's (shit be upon his 
head) followers changed the passages (one of which used this as reasoning 
for abandoning the religion and was beheaded once Muhammad conquered 
Medina), how the Qu'ran doesn't even have a passage stating that 
adulterers need to be stoned to death (because a goat ate it, 
apparently), and how "Allah" always added passages to the Qu'ran whenever 
Muhammad needed a favour (like having more than four wives). All of this 
is without mentioning that the "religion" wouldn't even exist at all had 
it not been for the hadiths, like amendments to the Qu'ran, which created 
Sunni, Shia and Wahhabi Islam and caused these bloodthirsty animals to be 
at each other's throats for an additional millennia. 

In reality, Muslims are the biggest hypocrites in the world and they 
_knowingly_ disregard the contradictions and lies in Islam to push the 
religion as "God's word." And yes, the Qu'ran is more than a thousand 
times worse than the Bible because not only is it violent, but the Qu'ran 
is a loose plagiarism of the Bible, the Torah and other religious books. 
Hell, the Qu'ran can't even figure out how "Allah" created the world and 
tells a multitude of different tales about how it was done in the same 
fucking book.

Fuck Islam and fuck Snit.

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#459710

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-26 16:23 -0700
Message-ID<794f096b-b52d-44e1-a362-d41800664d01@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#459704
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 3:52:28 PM UTC-7, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 14:48:58 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 3:00:32 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> >> On 7/26/18 1:47 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:18:45 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >> SilverSlimer wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Killing every one of the socialists' arguments.
> >> >>
> >> >> Quote and name the source of the "argument" that was "killed",
> >> >> "Slimer".
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't think that anyone has denied that radical Muslims are
> >> >> killing innocent people, in countries all over the world.
> >> >>
> >> >> Idiot.
> >> > 
> >> > Actually, the media _constantly_ does by making it sound like the
> >> > killer is not a "true Muslim," that the actions are "not
> >> > representative of the faith" or that the killer had "mental issues"
> >> > despite no evidence of any such thing.
> >> 
> >> Notice they do not even HAVE to with Christians because there are not
> >> people insisting that Christianity pushes people to do what the bible
> >> teaches is right.
> >> 
> >> > The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of
> >> > the Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying
> >> > out such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope
> >> > for peace so long as Islam exists.
> >> 
> >> You keep pretending that Qu'ran is somehow a worse book than the Bible.
> 
> It's statements like these which ensure that Snit will go to Hell after 
> his death where he'll debate Satan.
> 
> > (if you're just gonna tie it to a book... note: I'm adhering to the
> > *context* here)
> > 
> > So it's just that simple to you? Really?! What's in the book, forget the
> > people.
> > 
> > LOL! <shaking head in total disbelief>
> > 
> > To me, it's more a matter of reality, Staying tied to the 'book' context
> > while still recognizing reality:
> > 
> > Who are more the faithful followers of their book as a group?
> > 
> > Every serious study or poll I've seen in the last decade or two gives
> > the edge to those in the fastest growing religion, Muslims (over Jews,
> > as well).
> 
> The statement that Islam is the fastest growing religion is a lie. 
> <https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Fastest_Growing_Religion>
> 
> > But here's the real question between them regarding 'book' violence:
> > Where is there a 'New Testament' in the Quran?
> > 
> > There isn't one, not in the same sense, and it's notable that Islam
> > considers the Bible's New Testament to be untrustworthy (humans had
> > their hands on it).
> > 
> > I realize you're trying to make an agenda driven point but it's not so
> > goofily cut and dried as you've presented it. You'd have to look at the
> > above (at least) which, if true (and I believe they both are, you can do
> > your own research) grinds the teeth off of whatever point you thought
> > you were making.
> 
> The fact that Muslims don't approve of the Bible because "humans had 
> their hands on it" is hilarious considering how many different versions 
> of the Qu'ran are in existence, how easily Muhammad's (shit be upon his 
> head) followers changed the passages (one of which used this as reasoning 
> for abandoning the religion and was beheaded once Muhammad conquered 
> Medina), how the Qu'ran doesn't even have a passage stating that 
> adulterers need to be stoned to death (because a goat ate it, 
> apparently), and how "Allah" always added passages to the Qu'ran whenever 
> Muhammad needed a favour (like having more than four wives). All of this 
> is without mentioning that the "religion" wouldn't even exist at all had 
> it not been for the hadiths, like amendments to the Qu'ran, which created 
> Sunni, Shia and Wahhabi Islam and caused these bloodthirsty animals to be 
> at each other's throats for an additional millennia. 
> 
> In reality, Muslims are the biggest hypocrites in the world and they 
> _knowingly_ disregard the contradictions and lies in Islam to push the 
> religion as "God's word." And yes, the Qu'ran is more than a thousand 
> times worse than the Bible because not only is it violent, but the Qu'ran 
> is a loose plagiarism of the Bible, the Torah and other religious books. 
> Hell, the Qu'ran can't even figure out how "Allah" created the world and 
> tells a multitude of different tales about how it was done in the same 
> fucking book.
> 
> Fuck Islam and fuck Snit.
> 
> -- 
> SilverSlimer
> Ubuntu 18.04 on MSI GT72 2QD



And you do realize that it isn't impossible for Jonas Eklundh to be doing this, or getting help from someone with a clue? What is your evidence? 

What it looks like is irrelevant and is no big deal, especially if it's popular. You've proven nothing. Already moved on from that. Take it as you want! Despite Jonas Eklundh's claim that he has "no enthusiasm in making trouble" (a lie as proved by the fact that he destroyed CSMA with his crap) he was seen asking people how they would do a DDOS attack. Learning Red Hat... still a newbie... 

Now Klaus Schadenfreude on the other end of the line doesn't matter. All that matters is Jonas Eklundh gets to deliver the punchline. So how to deal with this? Don't answer the nonsense. Reason isn't part of scheme and never was. 

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#459713

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-26 16:31 -0700
Message-ID<407dfef8-14db-444a-84ea-6b29ed664774@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#459704
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 4:52:28 PM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 14:48:58 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 3:00:32 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> >> On 7/26/18 1:47 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 12:18:45 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >> SilverSlimer wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Killing every one of the socialists' arguments.
> >> >>
> >> >> Quote and name the source of the "argument" that was "killed",
> >> >> "Slimer".
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't think that anyone has denied that radical Muslims are
> >> >> killing innocent people, in countries all over the world.
> >> >>
> >> >> Idiot.
> >> > 
> >> > Actually, the media _constantly_ does by making it sound like the
> >> > killer is not a "true Muslim," that the actions are "not
> >> > representative of the faith" or that the killer had "mental issues"
> >> > despite no evidence of any such thing.
> >> 
> >> Notice they do not even HAVE to with Christians because there are not
> >> people insisting that Christianity pushes people to do what the bible
> >> teaches is right.
> >> 
> >> > The actions are _very_ representative of the faith as my reading of
> >> > the Qu'ran confirmed and he was definitely a true Muslim for carrying
> >> > out such attacks. I will say this again and again: there is no hope
> >> > for peace so long as Islam exists.
> >> 
> >> You keep pretending that Qu'ran is somehow a worse book than the Bible.
> 
> It's statements like these which ensure that Snit will go to Hell after 
> his death where he'll debate Satan.

He's already in a form of Hell, isn't he? The guy is *constantly* negative,
paranoid, etc. Death would probably be a relief.

> > (if you're just gonna tie it to a book... note: I'm adhering to the
> > *context* here)
> > 
> > So it's just that simple to you? Really?! What's in the book, forget the
> > people.
> > 
> > LOL! <shaking head in total disbelief>
> > 
> > To me, it's more a matter of reality, Staying tied to the 'book' context
> > while still recognizing reality:
> > 
> > Who are more the faithful followers of their book as a group?
> > 
> > Every serious study or poll I've seen in the last decade or two gives
> > the edge to those in the fastest growing religion, Muslims (over Jews,
> > as well).
> 
> The statement that Islam is the fastest growing religion is a lie. 
> <https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Fastest_Growing_Religion>

I'm just going by something I read awhile back but thanks for pointing to this.
Here's what I was using:

<http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/06/why-muslims-are-the-worlds-fastest-growing-religious-group/>

> > But here's the real question between them regarding 'book' violence:
> > Where is there a 'New Testament' in the Quran?
> > 
> > There isn't one, not in the same sense, and it's notable that Islam
> > considers the Bible's New Testament to be untrustworthy (humans had
> > their hands on it).
> > 
> > I realize you're trying to make an agenda driven point but it's not so
> > goofily cut and dried as you've presented it. You'd have to look at the
> > above (at least) which, if true (and I believe they both are, you can do
> > your own research) grinds the teeth off of whatever point you thought
> > you were making.
> 
> The fact that Muslims don't approve of the Bible because "humans had 
> their hands on it" is hilarious

I don't disagree.

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#459719

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-07-26 16:40 -0700
Message-ID<frv4f2F22nsU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#459713
On 7/26/18 4:31 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
...
>>> But here's the real question between them regarding 'book' violence:
>>> Where is there a 'New Testament' in the Quran?
>>>
>>> There isn't one, not in the same sense, and it's notable that Islam
>>> considers the Bible's New Testament to be untrustworthy (humans had
>>> their hands on it).
>>>
>>> I realize you're trying to make an agenda driven point but it's not so
>>> goofily cut and dried as you've presented it. You'd have to look at the
>>> above (at least) which, if true (and I believe they both are, you can do
>>> your own research) grinds the teeth off of whatever point you thought
>>> you were making.
>>
>> The fact that Muslims don't approve of the Bible because "humans had
>> their hands on it" is hilarious
> 
> I don't disagree.

Do you ever show disagreement with Slimer's bigoted nonsense against Islam?



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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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