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| First post | 2018-06-06 12:25 -0700 |
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We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-06 12:25 -0700
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-06 16:35 -0400
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 17:52 -0700
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 18:14 -0700
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:39 -0700
No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-06 18:21 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 18:37 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 18:51 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 19:09 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:19 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 19:24 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:30 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 19:45 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:02 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 20:14 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:31 -0700
Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-06 20:46 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:49 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 22:11 -0600
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 21:22 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 11:32 -0700
Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 12:45 -0700
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 14:30 -0700
My kids give zero fucks. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 15:38 -0700
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:51 -0700
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 17:21 -0700
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 17:36 -0700
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 18:07 -0700
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 18:20 -0700
Re: Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 16:53 +0000
Re: Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 16:49 +0000
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:40 -0700
Re: Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 16:54 +0000
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:24 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 17:07 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 17:24 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 17:44 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 17:55 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 18:19 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 18:23 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 18:52 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 19:48 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 20:25 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 20:32 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 20:52 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 21:16 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 21:56 -0700
I don't need WordPress. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 22:33 -0700
Re: I don't need WordPress. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
Re: I don't need WordPress. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:18 -0700
Social Security Disability (SSDI). Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 09:33 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:39 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:11 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:17 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:42 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:49 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:55 -0700
Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 14:10 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 14:15 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 15:51 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 17:37 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 17:45 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 18:00 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 19:55 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 09:22 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:06 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 01:11 -0700
Re: I don't need WordPress. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:02 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 23:58 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:08 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:01 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 12:58 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:32 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:47 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:53 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 14:03 -0700
Re: Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 16:50 +0000
Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 18:29 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 18:36 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 18:56 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 19:49 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 20:30 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 20:43 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 20:55 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 21:19 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 21:37 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 21:58 -0700
"SeniorPeopleMeet.COM" wouldn't be the worst choice. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 23:17 -0700
Re: "SeniorPeopleMeet.COM" wouldn't be the worst choice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
If Michael Glasser were human, and not a lizard. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 23:48 -0700
Re: If Michael Glasser were human, and not a lizard. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:00 -0700
I wish Michael Glasser were just evil, and not hopelessly insane. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 00:24 -0700
Re: I wish Michael Glasser were just evil, and not hopelessly insane. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:26 -0700
Re: I wish Michael Glasser were just evil, and not hopelessly insane. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 01:00 -0700
Re: "SeniorPeopleMeet.COM" wouldn't be the worst choice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:07 -0700
Re: "SeniorPeopleMeet.COM" wouldn't be the worst choice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:13 -0700
Re: "SeniorPeopleMeet.COM" wouldn't be the worst choice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:36 -0700
Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 09:53 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:58 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:30 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:07 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:34 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:13 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:05 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:32 -0700
Thank God for SSDI. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 13:44 -0700
Re: Thank God for SSDI. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:47 -0700
Re: Thank God for SSDI. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:54 -0700
Re: Thank God for SSDI. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:51 -0700
Thank God for SSDI. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 14:00 -0700
Re: Thank God for SSDI. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 14:12 -0700
Kids aren't my bag. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 14:32 -0700
Re: Thank God for SSDI. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 15:52 -0700
Re: Thank God for SSDI. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 14:32 -0700
Re: "SeniorPeopleMeet.COM" wouldn't be the worst choice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:11 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 23:59 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:03 -0700
Re: Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 16:47 +0000
Re: Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:51 -0700
Re: Re: Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 17:06 +0000
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:48 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:13 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:21 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:48 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:51 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 14:32 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 14:48 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 15:53 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 16:54 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 16:59 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 17:05 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 17:27 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 17:39 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 17:47 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 18:04 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 04:12 +0000
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 21:31 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 13:40 -0700
Re: Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 16:55 +0000
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 21:23 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 21:24 -0700
Don't teach JavaScript without a proper goal in mind. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-06 20:00 -0700
Re: Don't teach JavaScript without a proper goal in mind. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 20:03 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:31 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:32 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-06 22:47 -0400
NO TRUTH. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-06 20:28 -0700
Re: NO TRUTH. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-07 05:32 -0400
Harp playing, androgynous angels in the clouds ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 11:18 -0700
Re: Harp playing, androgynous angels in the clouds ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-07 16:42 -0400
Ben Jacoby takes _pride_ in his randomness, I don't. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 14:15 -0700
Re: Ben Jacoby takes _pride_ in his randomness, I don't. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-08 02:20 -0400
Worshiping Ignorance. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 23:36 -0700
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-08 11:42 -0400
" I can choose to do the opposite of what I prefer " -- Ben Jacoby. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 10:17 -0700
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 01:58 +0000
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 19:55 -0700
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 21:37 +0000
EINSTEIN's category, far from the Pope. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 14:51 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN's category, far from the Pope. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-06-09 22:01 +0000
To a retard, _everything_ is "random". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 15:11 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN's category, far from the Pope. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:13 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN's category, far from the Pope. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 15:54 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN's category, far from the Pope. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 22:54 +0000
People are forever MisQuoting Einstein; I correct them. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 16:40 -0700
Re: People are forever MisQuoting Einstein; I correct them. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 00:15 +0000
Putting words in Einstein's mouth. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 17:42 -0700
Re: Putting words in Einstein's mouth. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 00:59 +0000
God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 18:28 -0700
Re: God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 01:42 +0000
Mark Twain was a determinist. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 20:16 -0700
Re: Mark Twain was a determinist. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-10 12:48 -0400
Quantum Mechanics is statistical, not complete. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-10 10:51 -0700
Re: Quantum Mechanics is statistical, not complete. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 11:10 -0700
Re: Quantum Mechanics is statistical, not complete. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 11:02 -0400
Quantum Mechanics is statistical, not complete. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 09:20 -0700
Re: Quantum Mechanics is statistical, not complete. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 17:09 -0400
Bell's theorem is just another "I don't know". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 14:32 -0700
Re: Bell's theorem is just another "I don't know". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-11 14:33 -0700
No one can "prove" ThermoDynamics and/or General Relativity, 100.00000000%. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 15:00 -0700
Re: No one can "prove" ThermoDynamics and/or General Relativity, 100.00000000%. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-11 15:01 -0700
We assert _useful_ premises ( and ThermoDynamics is _Very_ useful ). Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 15:27 -0700
Re: Bell's theorem is just another "I don't know". benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 19:57 -0400
Re: Bell's theorem is just another "I don't know". vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-12 17:11 +0000
SuperDeterminism was useful to Einstein, and to me. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-12 12:03 -0700
Enjoy your silly hat. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-13 14:46 -0700
Sex toys/dolls. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-15 00:44 -0700
Re: God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 22:59 -0400
Re: God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 03:51 +0000
Re: God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-10 12:50 -0400
Mark Twain, Einstein and Stephen Hawking are revered by nerds Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-10 11:01 -0700
Re: Mark Twain, Einstein and Stephen Hawking are revered by nerds benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 11:06 -0400
Asleep, living in a dream. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 10:04 -0700
Re: Asleep, living in a dream. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-11 14:22 -0500
Re: Asleep, living in a dream. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 17:21 -0400
Your house is built on sand. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 14:43 -0700
Re: God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 04:21 -0700
Re: Putting words in Einstein's mouth. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 18:30 -0700
Re: Putting words in Einstein's mouth. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:40 -0700
Re: Putting words in Einstein's mouth. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-11 07:02 -0500
Re: Putting words in Einstein's mouth. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 05:17 -0700
Quantum Mechanics is _not_ complete. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 09:41 -0700
Re: Quantum Mechanics is _not_ complete. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 17:17 -0400
"statistics is [sic] real" -- Ben Jacoby. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 14:39 -0700
Re: "statistics is [sic] real" -- Ben Jacoby. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-11 14:53 -0700
When I hear the word "Quantum", I replace it with the word "BullShit". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 15:09 -0700
Re: When I hear the word "Quantum", I replace it with the word "BullShit". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 15:25 -0700
Re: "statistics is [sic] real" -- Ben Jacoby. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 20:00 -0400
" I can't know " -- Bell's Theorem. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 19:29 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN's category, far from the Pope. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 22:28 -0400
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:53 -0700
If the truth is your enemy... Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 00:14 -0700
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-06-09 06:52 -0400
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 05:26 -0700
Re: Harp playing, androgynous angels in the clouds ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 23:27 -0700
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 14:21 -0700
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 21:22 +0000
I feel rich, very rich. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-06 14:39 -0700
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 14:52 -0700
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-06-11 15:00 -0700 |
| Subject | No one can "prove" ThermoDynamics and/or General Relativity, 100.00000000%. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.11--3.00pm.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #454875 |
TheSnitBot replied ( to me ): > > You don't have to be an Einstein ( and you sure aren't ) > > to realize that Quantum Mechanics isn't complete. > > > > Bell's theorem is just another "I don't know". > > > > All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells _me_: > > > > Randomness is ignorance, nothing more; > > otherwise, there'd be NO TRUTH, nothing for _me_ to aspire to. > > I realize it's not something we can prove. Do you? No one can "prove" ThermoDynamics and/or General Relativity, 100.00000000%. Nor can I prove that you're human, far from it.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-11 15:01 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: No one can "prove" ThermoDynamics and/or General Relativity, 100.00000000%. |
| Message-ID | <fo89pvFotjfU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454882 |
On 6/11/18 3:00 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > TheSnitBot replied ( to me ): >>> You don't have to be an Einstein ( and you sure aren't ) >>> to realize that Quantum Mechanics isn't complete. >>> >>> Bell's theorem is just another "I don't know". >>> >>> All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells _me_: >>> >>> Randomness is ignorance, nothing more; >>> otherwise, there'd be NO TRUTH, nothing for _me_ to aspire to. >> >> I realize it's not something we can prove. Do you? > > No one can "prove" ThermoDynamics and/or General Relativity, 100.00000000%. Can you offer support for the idea of a LACK of randomness? > Nor can I prove that you're human, far from it. My ancient AIM bot was good, but not that good. :) -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-06-11 15:27 -0700 |
| Subject | We assert _useful_ premises ( and ThermoDynamics is _Very_ useful ). |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.11--3.27pm.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #454883 |
TheSnitBot replied ( to me ):
> > No one can "prove" ThermoDynamics and/or General Relativity, 100.00000000%.
>
> Can you offer support for the idea of a LACK of randomness?
All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells _me_:
Randomness is ignorance, nothing more;
otherwise, there'd be NO TRUTH, nothing for _me_ to aspire to.
Again, we assert _useful_ premises ( and ThermoDynamics is _Very_ useful ),
irregardless of the truth.
Likewise, " Randomness is ignorance, nothing more "
is useful _if_ you're like Einstein and me, not The Pope.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-06-11 19:57 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Bell's theorem is just another "I don't know". |
| Message-ID | <G%DTC.341598$DS3.59869@fx42.iad> |
| In reply to | #454874 |
On 6/11/2018 5:32 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > You don't have to be an Einstein ( and you sure aren't ) > to realize that Quantum Mechanics isn't complete. > > Bell's theorem is just another "I don't know". > > All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells _me_: > > Randomness is ignorance, nothing more; > otherwise, there'd be NO TRUTH, nothing for _me_ to aspire to. > Just keep preaching Rev. Say it enough an it becomes true science!
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2018-06-12 17:11 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Bell's theorem is just another "I don't know". |
| Message-ID | <foad54F6f3uU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454901 |
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 19:57:27 -0400, benj wrote: > On 6/11/2018 5:32 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >> You don't have to be an Einstein ( and you sure aren't ) >> to realize that Quantum Mechanics isn't complete. >> >> Bell's theorem is just another "I don't know". >> >> All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells _me_: >> >> Randomness is ignorance, nothing more; >> otherwise, there'd be NO TRUTH, nothing for _me_ to aspire to. >> > Just keep preaching Rev. Say it enough an it becomes true science! If I understand the Rev. correctly, he's a proponent of superdeterminism. I'm not sure that superdeterminism is a testable hypothesis. Is it science? I think there was once a scientist of some renown that said that he was fascinated that the universe was knowable. I'll try to remember who that was, hopefully someone can jog my memory. -- -v
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-06-12 12:03 -0700 |
| Subject | SuperDeterminism was useful to Einstein, and to me. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.12--0.03pm.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #454945 |
You (Scott) wrote: > If I understand [Jeff] correctly, he's a proponent of superdeterminism. SuperDeterminism was useful to Einstein, and to me; it is _not_ useful to The Pope, nor to you. > I'm not sure that superdeterminism is a testable hypothesis. > Is it science? You can't prove anything, not ThermoDynamics ( Entropy and eXergy ), nor General Relativity; in fact, they _contradict_ each other. The best you can do is: - Find it useful ( in its domain ). - Try to Falsify it ( in its domain ). > I think there was once a scientist of some renown > that said that he was fascinated that the universe was knowable. > hopefully someone can jog my memory. It was Adam, when he left "dad's house" ( the Garden of Eden ). "The Universe is knowable" - Neil deGrasse Tyson, on YouTube. P.S. The biggest "loophole" in Bell's Theorem is: It's an _Ensemble_ of tests, a series, not just one test, like a pollster, asking _10_ people if they'll vote for Hillary or not; it's incomplete, SemiRandom -- intrinsically, it's misleading.
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-06-13 14:46 -0700 |
| Subject | Enjoy your silly hat. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.13--2.46pm.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #454954 |
You ( Ed Prochak ) replied ( to me ):
> > You can't prove anything, not ThermoDynamics ( Entropy and eXergy ),
> > nor General Relativity; in fact, they _contradict_ each other.
> >
> > The best you can do is:
> >
> > - Find it useful ( in its domain ).
> > - Try to Falsify it ( in its domain ).
>
> Rant about indeterminism all you want.
> Those rants will not prove the universe is deterministic.
Who's trying to "prove" it ? not me.
> > SuperDeterminism was useful to Einstein and me;
> > it is _not_ useful to you and The Pope.
>
> Assuming determinism at the quantum level is not useful.
Fine, you're on Team Pope, not Team Einstein.
Enjoy your silly hat.
> > P.S. The biggest "loophole" in Bell's Theorem is:
> >
> > It's an _Ensemble_ of tests, a series, not just one test,
> > like a pollster, asking _10_ people if they'll vote for Hillary or not;
> > it's incomplete, SemiRandom -- intrinsically, it's misleading.
>
> All scientific theories are supported by
> "an _Ensemble_ of tests, a series, not just one test".
General Relativity is _not_ incomplete, SemiRandom
-- intrinsically misleading. The 4-D TimeScape is static,
both everything _and_ nothing.
> > " The Universe is knowable " - Neil deGrasse Tyson, on YouTube.
>
> << One may say
> " the eternal mystery of the world is its comprehensibility " >>
>
> -- Albert Einstein, 1936, in " Physics and Reality ".
" One may say "...
As his next sentence, Einstein wrote:
It is one of the great realizations of Immanuel Kant that
the setting up of a real external world would be senseless
without this comprehensibility.
-- Albert Einstein, 1936, in " Physics and Reality ".
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-06-15 00:44 -0700 |
| Subject | Sex toys/dolls. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.15--0.44am.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #455017 |
You (Ed) replied:
> > " It is one of the great realizations of Immanuel Kant that
> > the setting up of a real external world would be senseless
> > without this comprehensibility. " -- Einstein.
>
> even Albert can fall into a tauntology [sic], on occasion.
This, "The Anthropic Principle", is a _useful_ tautology.
> But we are slowly coming to realize that there can be
> a real external world out there, but that does not mean
> or guarantee that it has to be compresensible.
SuperDeterminism is a better religion;
"God" is nature, nothing more, nothing less.
" The Universe is knowable " - Neil deGrasse Tyson:
YouTube.COM/watch?v=3sAav37h4os
> > Who's trying to "prove" SuperDeterminism ? not me.
>
> [ Why do you assert SuperDeterminism so much ? ]
Because everyone, from the serial killer to his executer,
are best viewed under this light (SuperDeterminism),
instead of assuming free will, à la Christianity.
We simply prefer the LeastBad "option",
and we can't change what we prefer.
Ted Bundy wanted (female) sex dolls;
Jeffrey Dahmer wanted (male) sex dolls;
the killing was incidental.
Learning that, knowing that, is better than assuming
that Satan got to them, and that they needed Christ.
Today, Mildred, one can _buy_ sex toys/dolls.
The only difference between us and "stars/cars/monkeys"
is how and what we consume... our nitch.
> > You're on Team Pope, not Team Einstein. Enjoy your silly hat.
>
> I'm on team Pope and team Einstein.
> They play not just different leagues, but in different sports!
The most "Christian" person I've ever met
was a violent, alcoholic, thieving junkie;
so, yeah, one _can_ play on both sides of the field at once.
> > General Relativity is _not_ incomplete, SemiRandom
> > -- intrinsically misleading. The 4-D TimeScape is static,
> > both everything _and_ nothing.
>
> Conjecture. It is one view of relativity, and not uncommon.
At the start, there was no entropy, just infinite eXergy/density.
[ eXergy is a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ]
And, because " Time == Entropy ", there was no time on the clock then.
Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
but none of the eXergy. Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-06-09 22:59 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". |
| Message-ID | <Hu0TC.216580$o43.15533@fx33.iad> |
| In reply to | #454624 |
On 6/9/2018 9:28 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > Scott... Scott... Scott... Scott... Scott ! ! ! > > I know Einstein. > Like most people, you do not; but that's OK. > > Einstein's "God/Religion" was Mother Nature. > "God" is nature, nothing more, nothing less. > And nature is _not_ a person; Einstein made this abundently clear. > >>> I don't share your obsession with the 19th century. >>> GrecoRoman Diodorus Cronus, circa 300 BCE, >>> (rightly) noted that the future is just as fixed as the past. >> >> Begging the claim. > > I can take it back father, if you'd rather, to China and India, > but the record is less clear, so long ago. > >>> Einstein spent decades arguing _against_ the Copenhagen bullshit. >>> He subscribed to "The Ensemble Interpretation" which says, basically, >>> that Quantum Mechanics is merely statistical, not complete ( " >>> correlation does not imply causation " ). >> >> If you'd pull your head out of your posterior for a second, you'd realize >> that Einstein's verified quote (supplied below) supports his TREPIDATION >> about the Copenhagen interpretation. ["God Doesn't Play Dice"] > > Yes, you're right, this time. > God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". > > Before, you said he " had to admit that the Copenhagen interpretation > was MORE ACCURATE than he was comfortable with ". > He _never_ did that, far from it ( see above ). > >> Apologize or not -- makes no difference, except to show what kind of person you are. >> Indeed, one even say that the courage to apologize involves bucking the >> "leastbad" option that you claim is how we work. Can you do it? > > _You_ made the mistake; _you_ don't know Einsein; I do. > I'm the one correcting you, not vice versa. > > I don't want an apology from you, > because I know you simply don't care about this topic, > not like I do. > You are beaten Vallor! My Care Meter show that Nobody cares about QM and causality like Rolf Does. Vallor you are an uncaring knuckle-dragger and that means Rolf wins and you lose!
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2018-06-10 03:51 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". |
| Message-ID | <fo3lipFr1ppU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454636 |
On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 22:59:52 -0400, benj wrote: > On 6/9/2018 9:28 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >> Scott... Scott... Scott... Scott... Scott ! ! ! >> >> I know Einstein. >> Like most people, you do not; but that's OK. >> >> Einstein's "God/Religion" was Mother Nature. >> "God" is nature, nothing more, nothing less. >> And nature is _not_ a person; Einstein made this abundently clear. >> >>>> I don't share your obsession with the 19th century. >>>> GrecoRoman Diodorus Cronus, circa 300 BCE, >>>> (rightly) noted that the future is just as fixed as the past. >>> >>> Begging the claim. >> >> I can take it back father, if you'd rather, to China and India, >> but the record is less clear, so long ago. >> >>>> Einstein spent decades arguing _against_ the Copenhagen bullshit. >>>> He subscribed to "The Ensemble Interpretation" which says, basically, >>>> that Quantum Mechanics is merely statistical, not complete ( " >>>> correlation does not imply causation " ). >>> >>> If you'd pull your head out of your posterior for a second, you'd >>> realize that Einstein's verified quote (supplied below) supports his >>> TREPIDATION about the Copenhagen interpretation. ["God Doesn't Play >>> Dice"] >> >> Yes, you're right, this time. >> God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". >> >> Before, you said he " had to admit that the Copenhagen interpretation >> was MORE ACCURATE than he was comfortable with ". >> He _never_ did that, far from it ( see above ). >> >>> Apologize or not -- makes no difference, except to show what kind of >>> person you are. >>> Indeed, one even say that the courage to apologize involves bucking >>> the "leastbad" option that you claim is how we work. Can you do it? >> >> _You_ made the mistake; _you_ don't know Einsein; I do. >> I'm the one correcting you, not vice versa. >> >> I don't want an apology from you, >> because I know you simply don't care about this topic, >> not like I do. >> > You are beaten Vallor! My Care Meter show that Nobody cares about QM > and causality like Rolf Does. Vallor you are an uncaring knuckle-dragger > and that means Rolf wins and you lose! Yeah yeah, there is no God but Spinoza, and Einstein is his prophet, yadda yadda. -- -v
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-06-10 12:50 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". |
| Message-ID | <MFcTC.339801$DS3.321327@fx42.iad> |
| In reply to | #454646 |
On 6/9/2018 11:51 PM, vallor wrote: > On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 22:59:52 -0400, benj wrote: > >> On 6/9/2018 9:28 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >>> Scott... Scott... Scott... Scott... Scott ! ! ! >>> >>> I know Einstein. >>> Like most people, you do not; but that's OK. >>> >>> Einstein's "God/Religion" was Mother Nature. >>> "God" is nature, nothing more, nothing less. >>> And nature is _not_ a person; Einstein made this abundently clear. >>> >>>>> I don't share your obsession with the 19th century. >>>>> GrecoRoman Diodorus Cronus, circa 300 BCE, >>>>> (rightly) noted that the future is just as fixed as the past. >>>> >>>> Begging the claim. >>> >>> I can take it back father, if you'd rather, to China and India, >>> but the record is less clear, so long ago. >>> >>>>> Einstein spent decades arguing _against_ the Copenhagen bullshit. >>>>> He subscribed to "The Ensemble Interpretation" which says, basically, >>>>> that Quantum Mechanics is merely statistical, not complete ( " >>>>> correlation does not imply causation " ). >>>> >>>> If you'd pull your head out of your posterior for a second, you'd >>>> realize that Einstein's verified quote (supplied below) supports his >>>> TREPIDATION about the Copenhagen interpretation. ["God Doesn't Play >>>> Dice"] >>> >>> Yes, you're right, this time. >>> God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". >>> >>> Before, you said he " had to admit that the Copenhagen interpretation >>> was MORE ACCURATE than he was comfortable with ". >>> He _never_ did that, far from it ( see above ). >>> >>>> Apologize or not -- makes no difference, except to show what kind of >>>> person you are. >>>> Indeed, one even say that the courage to apologize involves bucking >>>> the "leastbad" option that you claim is how we work. Can you do it? >>> >>> _You_ made the mistake; _you_ don't know Einsein; I do. >>> I'm the one correcting you, not vice versa. >>> >>> I don't want an apology from you, >>> because I know you simply don't care about this topic, >>> not like I do. >>> >> You are beaten Vallor! My Care Meter show that Nobody cares about QM >> and causality like Rolf Does. Vallor you are an uncaring knuckle-dragger >> and that means Rolf wins and you lose! > > Yeah yeah, there is no God but Spinoza, and Einstein is his prophet, > yadda yadda. > See? You just don't care like Rolf does! QED.
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-06-10 11:01 -0700 |
| Subject | Mark Twain, Einstein and Stephen Hawking are revered by nerds |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.10--11.01am.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #454692 |
You ( Ben and Scott ) wrote: > > Yeah yeah, there is no God but Spinoza, and Einstein is his prophet, > > yadda yadda. > > See? You just don't care like Rolf does! QED. Right, most people don't care; they're asleep, they can't appreciate "life and death"... not like I do. Mark Twain, Einstein and Stephen Hawking are revered by nerds for being "woke" enough to know that we're no better than machines, no better than fungi. In "The Grand Design", 2010, Stephen Hawking said: it seems that we are no more than biological machines and that free will is just an illusion.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-06-11 11:06 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Mark Twain, Einstein and Stephen Hawking are revered by nerds |
| Message-ID | <9ewTC.126583$pK.102851@fx13.iad> |
| In reply to | #454695 |
On 6/10/2018 2:01 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > You ( Ben and Scott ) wrote: >>> Yeah yeah, there is no God but Spinoza, and Einstein is his prophet, >>> yadda yadda. >> >> See? You just don't care like Rolf does! QED. > > Right, most people don't care; they're asleep, > they can't appreciate "life and death"... not like I do. Right Rolf. You ar SUCH a caring Left coast Lib. That's why you are such a hero out their among the fruits and nuts. > Mark Twain, Einstein and Stephen Hawking are revered by nerds > for being "woke" enough to know that we're no better than machines, > no better than fungi. Your religious beliefs are NOT proved because someone else believes the same crap you do! > In "The Grand Design", 2010, Stephen Hawking said: > > it seems that we are no more than biological machines > and that free will is just an illusion. Hawking is an idiot too! His babbling in his later books proves it. Maybe you need to quote "GOD" to really "prove" your theories! Nutjob.
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-06-11 10:04 -0700 |
| Subject | Asleep, living in a dream. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.11--10.04am.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #454842 |
You ( Ben ) told me: > Maybe you need to quote "GOD" to really "prove" your theories! > Nutjob. Who's your God, and what's your theory ? It's the Bible, right ? if not, you haven't expressed it, nor can you, when asked. You're asleep, living in a dream. Jeff-Relf.Me/TodaysBible.JPG
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| From | Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-11 14:22 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Asleep, living in a dream. |
| Message-ID | <pfmi6e$1d5o$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #454850 |
On 6/11/2018 12:04 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > You ( Ben ) told me: >> Maybe you need to quote "GOD" to really "prove" your theories! >> Nutjob. > > Who's your God, and what's your theory ? > > It's the Bible, right ? if not, you haven't expressed it, > nor can you, when asked. You're asleep, living in a dream. > > Jeff-Relf.Me/TodaysBible.JPG > Choose Trump as your God. He will be your Leader.
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| From | benj <benj@nobody.net> |
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| Date | 2018-06-11 17:21 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Asleep, living in a dream. |
| Message-ID | <jJBTC.220839$o43.75944@fx33.iad> |
| In reply to | #454850 |
On 6/11/2018 1:04 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > You ( Ben ) told me: >> Maybe you need to quote "GOD" to really "prove" your theories! >> Nutjob. > > Who's your God, and what's your theory ? > > It's the Bible, right ? if not, you haven't expressed it, > nor can you, when asked. You're asleep, living in a dream. > > Jeff-Relf.Me/TodaysBible.JPG > I"ve told you time and again that "belief" has no place in science, yet you persist in your religious beliefs and encen worse life this fantasy life where you make uyp what other people believe so you can then use that fantasy to "prove" that your religion is correct ant theirs is "wrong". This is druoling lib, nonsense. You have NO idea what I might or might not believe. All you clowns are alike in beating this strawman over and over. Give it up Rolf.
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-06-11 14:43 -0700 |
| Subject | Your house is built on sand. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.11--2.43pm.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #454872 |
Looking in the mirror, you (Ben) wrote: > You have NO idea what I might or might not believe. Exactly, your house is built on sand.
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-10 04:21 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". |
| Message-ID | <3da9224d-feb6-4ae7-ae23-f0ffa9a0d0a7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #454636 |
On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 7:59:53 PM UTC-7, benj wrote: > On 6/9/2018 9:28 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > > Scott... Scott... Scott... Scott... Scott ! ! ! > > > > I know Einstein. > > Like most people, you do not; but that's OK. > > > > Einstein's "God/Religion" was Mother Nature. > > "God" is nature, nothing more, nothing less. > > And nature is _not_ a person; Einstein made this abundently clear. > > > >>> I don't share your obsession with the 19th century. > >>> GrecoRoman Diodorus Cronus, circa 300 BCE, > >>> (rightly) noted that the future is just as fixed as the past. > >> > >> Begging the claim. > > > > I can take it back father, if you'd rather, to China and India, > > but the record is less clear, so long ago. > > > >>> Einstein spent decades arguing _against_ the Copenhagen bullshit. > >>> He subscribed to "The Ensemble Interpretation" which says, basically, > >>> that Quantum Mechanics is merely statistical, not complete ( " > >>> correlation does not imply causation " ). > >> > >> If you'd pull your head out of your posterior for a second, you'd realize > >> that Einstein's verified quote (supplied below) supports his TREPIDATION > >> about the Copenhagen interpretation. ["God Doesn't Play Dice"] > > > > Yes, you're right, this time. > > God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". > > > > Before, you said he " had to admit that the Copenhagen interpretation > > was MORE ACCURATE than he was comfortable with ". > > He _never_ did that, far from it ( see above ). > > > >> Apologize or not -- makes no difference, except to show what kind of person you are. > >> Indeed, one even say that the courage to apologize involves bucking the > >> "leastbad" option that you claim is how we work. Can you do it? > > > > _You_ made the mistake; _you_ don't know Einsein; I do. > > I'm the one correcting you, not vice versa. > > > > I don't want an apology from you, > > because I know you simply don't care about this topic, > > not like I do. > > > You are beaten Vallor! My Care Meter show that Nobody cares about QM > and causality like Rolf Does. Vallor you are an uncaring knuckle-dragger > and that means Rolf wins and you lose! Ronb suffers from neurotic lies so, to him, everything, even randomized bot posts, are "abuses". Who *doesn't* know this? I suspect Ronb does not even know what is wrong with Alex Jones. Over and over, the demand is he wants to "talk tech", but Ronb spends most of his time whining about "LXQt". Too much glue for you, Gluehead. Time to blame the cult-like herd of convenient friends! I'm getting more posts hidden then show. I'm guessing the small-minded stalker is proving the advocates right again. Drives the trolls crazy when they do not get attention. What Ronb really means: Ronb's superb "diagnostic competence" made it so he could not find an extension he needs that does exist on LXQt. -- This broke the Internet http://comp.os.linux.advocacy.narkive.com/711dskzA/steven-petruzzellis-admits-he-can-not-back-his-claims-about-snit http://www.5z8.info/hack-outlook_c6c9in_michaelangelo-virus https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/RSikBcWxBLo Jonas Eklundh Communication
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-09 18:30 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Putting words in Einstein's mouth. |
| Message-ID | <947d7f3f-e8c7-408e-81f5-2a59b5156cff@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #454623 |
On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 5:59:07 PM UTC-7, vallor wrote: > On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 17:42:58 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: > > >> > > Do you have a shrine for your religion? > >> > > If so, please post photos, should be interesting. > >> > > >> > Jeff-Relf.Me/TodaysBible.JPG > >> > >> your shrine is a Verizon datacenter? > >> globaldots.com/verizon-auctions-data-centers-google-cloud-attacks- > amazon-weeks-news/ > > > > The (stock) image is from "DataCenterVoice.COM". > > > >> How...quaint. Goes with the 19th century philosophy though. > > > > I don't share your obsession with the 19th century. > > GrecoRoman Diodorus Cronus, circa 300 BCE, > > (rightly) noted that the future is just as fixed as the past. > > Begging the claim. > > > > > > I'm forever correcting people like you, who put words in Einstein's > > mouth; > > No I didn't. > > > 9 times out of ten ( at least ), the SoCalled "quotes" aren't his. > > Except, this time, it is. (See below.) > > > It's _very_ annoying; ShitHeads, like you, are making me work hard. > > Tut tut -- it must be really annoying when the "ShitHeads" turn out to be > right, eh? Lul. > > > > > Einstein spent decades arguing _against_ the Copenhagen bullshit. > > He subscribed to "The Ensemble Interpretation" which says, basically, > > that Quantum Mechanics is merely statistical, not complete ( " > > correlation does not imply causation " ). > > If you'd pull your head out of your posterior for a second, you'd realize > that Einstein's verified quote (supplied below) supports his trepidation > about the Copenhagen interpretation > > "Jedenfalls bin ich überzeugt, daß der nicht würfelt." > > 1926, letter to Max Born. > > https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/God_does_not_play_dice_with_the_universe > > > "Einstein himself used variants of this quote at other times. For > example, in a 1943 conversation with William Hermanns recorded in > Hermanns' book Einstein and the Poet, Einstein said: "As I have said so > many times, God doesn't play dice with the world." (p. 58)" > > https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein#English > > > Apologize or not -- makes no difference, except to show what kind of > person you are. > > Indeed, one even say that the courage to apologize involves bucking the > "leastbad" option that you claim is how we work. Can you do it? > > -- > -v Well... like I said, I know the flooder is Jonas Eklundh Communication AB, who is a self professed web developer but I don't know if it could be used to automate this. No one here has ever read my code, much less found a bug; still, in my subconscious, I'm thinking, "Twiddly Dee!", a secret I share with you only now. Thus, my timely statement stands true and correct. Now that nobody is responding to Jonas Eklundh Communication AB, he's making it sound like he's outsmarted us all -- when in fact, people are just beating him at his own game. -- Get Rich Slow!! https://youtu.be/iztSc_msHuo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZNxaaKD7-c https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100012978552519 Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-09 20:40 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Putting words in Einstein's mouth. |
| Message-ID | <fo3kt8Fs0jvU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454625 |
On 6/9/18 6:30 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: ... > Well... like I said, I know the flooder is Jonas Eklundh Communication AB, who is a self professed web developer but I don't know if it could be used to automate this. There may have been a time that was true, but clearly know you know he can and does flood, as do you. > No one here has ever read my code, much less found a bug; still, in my subconscious, I'm thinking, "Twiddly Dee!", a secret I share with you only now. Thus, my timely statement stands true and correct. You shared some of your code. > Now that nobody is responding to Jonas Eklundh Communication AB, he's making it sound like he's outsmarted us all -- when in fact, people are just beating him at his own game. I stopped responding to his auto-posts... they were not as interesting as yours. I suppose you "won" or whatever. > -- > Get Rich Slow!! > https://youtu.be/iztSc_msHuo > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZNxaaKD7-c > https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100012978552519 > Jonas Eklundh Communication AB > -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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