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One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO

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First post2018-06-04 20:57 +0000
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  One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 20:57 +0000
    Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-06 13:01 -0400
      Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 10:41 -0700
      Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 10:58 -0700
        Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 11:03 -0700
          Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 11:17 -0700
          Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 11:23 -0700
            Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 11:43 -0700
              Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 12:00 -0700
                Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 12:05 -0700
            Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 11:50 -0700
              Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 12:08 -0700
              Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 12:42 -0700
                Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 13:13 -0700
                  Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:10 -0700
                    Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 16:43 -0700
                      Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 18:01 -0700
                        Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 18:24 -0700
                          Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 18:49 -0700
                            Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 19:08 -0700
                            Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:17 -0700
                              Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 19:29 -0700
                                Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:30 -0700
                                  Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 19:40 -0700
                                    Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:43 -0700
                                      Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 19:48 -0700
                                      Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 20:37 -0700
                                        Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:45 -0700
                                Crying "foul". Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-06 20:19 -0700
                                  Re: Crying "foul". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 20:29 -0700
                                    Re: Crying "foul". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:41 -0700
                                      Re: Crying "foul". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 21:57 -0600
                                        Re: Crying "foul". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 21:00 -0700
                                  Re: Crying "foul". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:34 -0700
                                    Re: Crying "foul". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 20:45 -0700
                                      Re: Crying "foul". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:48 -0700
                                        Re: Crying "foul". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 22:01 -0600
                                          Re: Crying "foul". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 21:10 -0700
                                          We're mostly talking to ourselves. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-06 21:27 -0700
                                            Re: We're mostly talking to ourselves. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 05:43 +0000
                              Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:31 -0700
                            Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:32 -0700
                        Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 18:30 -0700
                          Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:38 -0700
                Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 13:18 -0700
              Re: Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 17:04 +0000
      Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 11:02 -0700
        Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 11:13 -0700
      Re: One last time snit: Steve Carroll vs LEO simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 22:56 +0000

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#454250

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-06 19:17 -0700
Message-ID<fnritqFc0teU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#454246
On 6/6/18 6:49 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 6/6/18 6:24 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 7:01:56 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>> On 6/6/18 4:43 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>> I don't know*anyone*  who shares your position about obtaining
>>>> knowledge... never even heard of it until you.
>>>
>>> I think it is a good thing. Heck, I think it is fun, just for the 
>>> sake of it. The fact you do not know "*anyone*" who things obtaining 
>>> knowledge is a good thing is a sad, sad commentary on your world 
>>> outlook. 
> 
>> Being that you admonished me, repeatedly, for my having obtained
>> knowledge, suggesting that I have "NOTHING" to "show" for having
>> done so, I guess I'm not surprised to see you so readily admit to it
>> here. Is this why you've given up teaching? If so, that's definitely a
>> "good thing", as well.
> 
> You claimed to not know "*anyone*" who things obtaining knowledge is a 
> good thing. I am letting you know I think that is pathetic.
> 
> Your response was to snip dishonestly, as is your wont, and pretend 
> comments said in the context of clients and having your own website 
> applied to learning for the sake of learning. In other words, more of 
> your games.
> 
> As you work to "best" me you HAVE learned a lot -- and I have repeatedly 
> commended you for it. But when it comes to doing anything for your 
> income or for others you have NOTHING to show for it other than a 
> website you openly admitted you copied from me (and then asked me to 
> alter my site to better fit your tastes!) and your idiotic flood bot.
> 
> I suppose you also have a broken family and, if your claims are 
> accurate, two sons you are estranged from.
> 
> How proud you must be of your life!
> 
> P.S.: Yes, I know the above content will bother you so much you will 
> snip it away and lie about it. Your trolling is VERY predicable.

And, of course, I was right. I thought there was a chance -- however 
slim -- Carroll would just walk away. He did not.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#454253

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-06 19:29 -0700
Message-ID<ae519704-a107-454c-8b2c-85c71a6ccbcf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#454250
On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 8:17:34 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:


> And, of course, I was right.

Nah... anyone who has ever spent time learning things derives
a value more than "NOTHING" from having done so, even if it's
not a monetary value. I thought you were a libertarian? You're
sounding more like a far right capitalist in your belief that all
non-monetary compensation is worthless. Of course, I 
probably made more $$ from web dev in the first 3 months
of this year than you'll make all year ;) but that's another
discussion.

 

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#454255

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-06 19:30 -0700
Message-ID<fnrjmrFc0teU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#454253
On 6/6/18 7:29 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 8:17:34 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> 
> 
>> And, of course, I was right.
> 
> Nah... anyone who has ever spent time learning things derives
> a value more than "NOTHING" from having done so, even if it's
> not a monetary value. I thought you were a libertarian? You're
> sounding more like a far right capitalist in your belief that all
> non-monetary compensation is worthless. Of course, I
> probably made more $$ from web dev in the first 3 months
> of this year than you'll make all year ;) but that's another
> discussion.
> 
>   
> 
You have NOTHING but ignorance to show for your lack of ability to 
understand what you read. How pathetic.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#454265

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-06 19:40 -0700
Message-ID<086077a1-0d98-4931-b8e0-158a9dfcbec4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#454255
On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 8:30:54 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> On 6/6/18 7:29 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 8:17:34 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> And, of course, I was right.
> > 
> > Nah... anyone who has ever spent time learning things derives
> > a value more than "NOTHING" from having done so, even if it's
> > not a monetary value. I thought you were a libertarian? You're
> > sounding more like a far right capitalist in your belief that all
> > non-monetary compensation is worthless. Of course, I
> > probably made more $$ from web dev in the first 3 months
> > of this year than you'll make all year ;) but that's another
> > discussion.
> > 
> >   
> > 
> You have NOTHING 

Incorrect, I have the knowledge I learned  and it does have a value, 
monetary and otherwise. I hope none of the people you've sold your 
video series to ever learn of your view on this; they'd undoubtedly
feel more ripped off than they probably already feel.

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#454267

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-06 19:43 -0700
Message-ID<fnrkf9Fc0teU12@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#454265
On 6/6/18 7:40 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 8:30:54 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>> On 6/6/18 7:29 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 8:17:34 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> And, of course, I was right.
>>>
>>> Nah... anyone who has ever spent time learning things derives
>>> a value more than "NOTHING" from having done so, even if it's
>>> not a monetary value. I thought you were a libertarian? You're
>>> sounding more like a far right capitalist in your belief that all
>>> non-monetary compensation is worthless. Of course, I
>>> probably made more $$ from web dev in the first 3 months
>>> of this year than you'll make all year ;) but that's another
>>> discussion.
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>> You have NOTHING but ignorance to show for your lack of ability to understand what you read. How pathetic. 
> 
> Incorrect, I have the knowledge I learned  and it does have a value,
> monetary and otherwise. I hope none of the people you've sold your
> video series to ever learn of your view on this; they'd undoubtedly
> feel more ripped off than they probably already feel.

You just proved me correct... and then went into insult mode to try to 
feel better about yourself as a "bonus".

Amazing.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#454270

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-06 19:48 -0700
Message-ID<3685628a-ee04-4de2-9c11-47e2010e8370@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#454267
On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 8:43:56 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> On 6/6/18 7:40 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 8:30:54 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> >> On 6/6/18 7:29 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 8:17:34 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> And, of course, I was right.
> >>>
> >>> Nah... anyone who has ever spent time learning things derives
> >>> a value more than "NOTHING" from having done so, even if it's
> >>> not a monetary value. I thought you were a libertarian? You're
> >>> sounding more like a far right capitalist in your belief that all
> >>> non-monetary compensation is worthless. Of course, I
> >>> probably made more $$ from web dev in the first 3 months
> >>> of this year than you'll make all year ;) but that's another
> >>> discussion.
> >>>
> >>>    
> >>>
> >> You have NOTHING but ignorance to show for your lack of ability to understand what you read. How pathetic. 
> > 
> > Incorrect, I have the knowledge I learned  and it does have a value,
> > monetary and otherwise. I hope none of the people you've sold your
> > video series to ever learn of your view on this; they'd undoubtedly
> > feel more ripped off than they probably already feel.
> 
> You just proved me correct... 

... with respect to it being a "good thing" that no one else holds
your extremely bizarre position. Whatever will you tell those who 
spent their $$ on your Dreamweaver video series?! Yikes!

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#454281

FromSteven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-06 20:37 -0700
Message-ID<e1089922-406b-4ca8-a9eb-e185bd258f19@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#454267
On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 7:43:56 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> On 6/6/18 7:40 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 8:30:54 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> >> On 6/6/18 7:29 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 8:17:34 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> And, of course, I was right.
> >>>
> >>> Nah... anyone who has ever spent time learning things derives
> >>> a value more than "NOTHING" from having done so, even if it's
> >>> not a monetary value. I thought you were a libertarian? You're
> >>> sounding more like a far right capitalist in your belief that all
> >>> non-monetary compensation is worthless. Of course, I
> >>> probably made more $$ from web dev in the first 3 months
> >>> of this year than you'll make all year ;) but that's another
> >>> discussion.
> >>>
> >>>    
> >>>
> >> You have NOTHING but ignorance to show for your lack of ability to understand what you read. How pathetic. 
> > 
> > Incorrect, I have the knowledge I learned  and it does have a value,
> > monetary and otherwise. I hope none of the people you've sold your
> > video series to ever learn of your view on this; they'd undoubtedly
> > feel more ripped off than they probably already feel.
> 
> You just proved me correct... and then went into insult mode to try to 
> feel better about yourself as a "bonus".
> 
> Amazing.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
> cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
> somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
> 
> They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> 
> <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>



Jeff 'The Moron' Relf must understand Steven Carroll knows he is just trolling! LXQt is clearly my second favorite DE and the only one I suggest to Mac users. Primary interface is Plasma, though. Being able to do what Steven Carroll does is all you require after you install it. 

Time to blame anything but Linux! 

Can you get less dishonest? Someone's passed old text through Google translate with (it appears) the Borůvka's algorithm to produce posts which are made to sound like a response from my posts. Effectively everything Jeff 'The Moron' Relf says about Steven Carroll is false but he thinks he is fooling people. Given how frequently it is clear that Jeff 'The Moron' Relf's signature is some twist of  an observation Steven Carroll shared which had been  a thrashing on Jeff 'The Moron' Relf for something he did which was asinine/dishonest/etc... its undoubtedly a repeated demonstration of Jeff 'The Moron' Relf's continuing butthurt for having been so frequently defeated. 



--
Curious how these posts are made? Email: frelwizzen@gmail.com

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#454284

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-06 20:45 -0700
Message-ID<fnro3mFc0teU17@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#454281
On 6/6/18 8:37 PM, Steven Carroll wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 7:43:56 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
>> On 6/6/18 7:40 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 8:30:54 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 6/6/18 7:29 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 8:17:34 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> And, of course, I was right.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nah... anyone who has ever spent time learning things derives
>>>>> a value more than "NOTHING" from having done so, even if it's
>>>>> not a monetary value. I thought you were a libertarian? You're
>>>>> sounding more like a far right capitalist in your belief that all
>>>>> non-monetary compensation is worthless. Of course, I
>>>>> probably made more $$ from web dev in the first 3 months
>>>>> of this year than you'll make all year ;) but that's another
>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>> You have NOTHING but ignorance to show for your lack of ability to understand what you read. How pathetic.
>>>
>>> Incorrect, I have the knowledge I learned  and it does have a value,
>>> monetary and otherwise. I hope none of the people you've sold your
>>> video series to ever learn of your view on this; they'd undoubtedly
>>> feel more ripped off than they probably already feel.
>>
>> You just proved me correct... and then went into insult mode to try to
>> feel better about yourself as a "bonus".
>>
>> Amazing.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
>> cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
>> somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
>>
>> They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
>>
>> <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
> 
> 
> 
> Jeff 'The Moron' Relf must understand Steven Carroll knows he is just trolling!

Everyone knows you are just trolling. Heck, your name calling there is 
just trolling!

> LXQt is clearly my second favorite DE and the only one I suggest to Mac users. 

Why is that? What is it about it you like?

> Primary interface is Plasma, though. Being able to do what Steven Carroll does is all you require after you install it.

Speaking of yourself in third person is weird, but how is your flood bot 
tied to Plasma, esp. given how you use a Mac1

> Time to blame anything but Linux!

Time for you to stop flooding and spend time learning to understand what 
you read!

> Can you get less dishonest?

I could not get as dishonest as you -- you lie as much in a day as I do 
in a year.

> Someone's passed old text through Google translate with (it appears) the Borůvka's algorithm to produce posts which are made to sound like a response from my posts.

I have been asking you how you produce your texts... but I see no 
relationship between your texts and that algorithm.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borůvka%27s_algorithm>

> Effectively everything Jeff 'The Moron' Relf says about Steven Carroll is false but he thinks he is fooling people.

Why not quote him?

> Given how frequently it is clear that Jeff 'The Moron' Relf's signature is some twist of  an observation Steven Carroll shared which had been  a thrashing on Jeff 'The Moron' Relf for something he did which was asinine/dishonest/etc... its undoubtedly a repeated demonstration of Jeff 'The Moron' Relf's continuing butthurt for having been so frequently defeated.

You are projecting.

> 
> 
> 
> --
> Curious how these posts are made? Email: frelwizzen@gmail.com

Why not answer my question here: how do you pick which posts to respond to?


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#454275 — Crying "foul".

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-06-06 20:19 -0700
SubjectCrying "foul".
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--8.19pm.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#454253
Steve told Mike:
> I probably made more $$ from web dev in the first 3 months
> of this year than you'll make all year ;)

And you paid for your adult kids' college, too;
likely, your ex got some coin as well.

You two ( Mike and Steve ) can't agree on the rules of the game;
instead, you constantly cry "foul", hoping someone will notice. 

In "The Handmaid's Tale", Margaret Atwood is crying "foul";
" I'm good, the game is bad ", is the gist of it.

She can't imagine a better game, 
one where everyone wants to play.

The " I know better than the market; every detail, always "
concept is what's wrong with feminists and communists.

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#454278 — Re: Crying "foul".

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-06 20:29 -0700
SubjectRe: Crying "foul".
Message-ID<9969f56f-282e-4d85-b98b-fa973ac8cca3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#454275
On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 9:19:28 PM UTC-6, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> Steve told Mike:
> > I probably made more $$ from web dev in the first 3 months
> > of this year than you'll make all year ;)

That misses the point, I only stated it to highlight the fact that
he can't possibly know my income or what I "have" obtained
through my knowledge of the web.

> And you paid for your adult kids' college, too;

Not all of it (they paid a bunch).

> You two ( Mike and Steve ) can't agree on the rules of the game;

What game? He said my knowledge is worth "NOTHING" because
he hasn't seen what I "have" based on obtaining that knowledge.
Being that he can't possibly know unless I tell him, only someone 
with a  crystal ball would make  such a statement. IOW, it's a nice 
way of calling him what he is. Hey, you said I could be nicer ;)

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#454282 — Re: Crying "foul".

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-06 20:41 -0700
SubjectRe: Crying "foul".
Message-ID<fnrnrbFc0teU16@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#454278
On 6/6/18 8:29 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 9:19:28 PM UTC-6, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>> Steve told Mike:
>>> I probably made more $$ from web dev in the first 3 months
>>> of this year than you'll make all year ;)
> 
> That misses the point, I only stated it to highlight the fact that
> he can't possibly know my income or what I "have" obtained
> through my knowledge of the web.

Who cares what your income is? Not I.

But YOU have brought to COLA the idea that with your years of working to 
"best" me in web knowledge ALL you have to show for it is your flood 
bot. You care not one whit for the knowledge itself.

>> And you paid for your adult kids' college, too;
> 
> Not all of it (they paid a bunch).

Heck, given how you speak of your kids it is unlikely you help them at all.

>> You two ( Mike and Steve ) can't agree on the rules of the game;
> 
> What game? He said my knowledge is worth "NOTHING" because
> he hasn't seen what I "have" based on obtaining that knowledge.
> Being that he can't possibly know unless I tell him, only someone
> with a  crystal ball would make  such a statement. IOW, it's a nice
> way of calling him what he is. Hey, you said I could be nicer ;)
> 
Your game is to work to twist words... and you just proved it. I noted 
what YOU have shared with COLA. You have admitted that even after 
working to copy my website and asking me to change MINE to YOUR tastes 
so you can have your "own" you failed at even that. You gave up on 
having ANY website of your own.

As far as clients, NOBODY is paying you to flood Usenet. You do that as 
an obsession, not a job. If you had any other work you could show for 
your efforts you would be screaming about it at the top of your lungs so 
you can claim it is better than what I have done. But you have NOTHING 
to show.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#454289 — Re: Crying "foul".

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-06 21:57 -0600
SubjectRe: Crying "foul".
Message-ID<pfaaep$269$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#454282
On 2018-06-07 03:41:31 +0000, Snit said:

> On 6/6/18 8:29 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 9:19:28 PM UTC-6, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>> Steve told Mike:
>>>> I probably made more $$ from web dev in the first 3 months
>>>> of this year than you'll make all year ;)
>> 
>> That misses the point, I only stated it to highlight the fact that
>> he can't possibly know my income or what I "have" obtained
>> through my knowledge of the web.
> 
> Who cares what your income is? Not I.

LOL! Of course you do. You're the one who's been going on about how I 
"have NOTHING to show"
for my web knowledge, depstie the fact that I even offered your, for 
*free*, some of my "NOTHING" ;)

> You two ( Mike and Steve ) can't agree on the rules of the game;
>> 
>> What game? He said my knowledge is worth "NOTHING" because
>> he hasn't seen what I "have" based on obtaining that knowledge.
>> Being that he can't possibly know unless I tell him, only someone
>> with a  crystal ball would make  such a statement. IOW, it's a nice
>> way of calling him what he is. Hey, you said I could be nicer ;)
>> 
> Your game is to work to twist words

You wrote what you wrote, don't blame "others" for being unable to 
comprehend what you wrote. If you don't value knowledge for its own 
sake that's your business... but it's a bizarre position for a teacher 
to take.

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#454291 — Re: Crying "foul".

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-06 21:00 -0700
SubjectRe: Crying "foul".
Message-ID<fnrov1Fc0teU23@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#454289
On 6/6/18 8:57 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On 2018-06-07 03:41:31 +0000, Snit said:
> 
>> On 6/6/18 8:29 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 9:19:28 PM UTC-6, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>>> Steve told Mike:
>>>>> I probably made more $$ from web dev in the first 3 months
>>>>> of this year than you'll make all year ;)
>>>
>>> That misses the point, I only stated it to highlight the fact that
>>> he can't possibly know my income or what I "have" obtained
>>> through my knowledge of the web.
>>
>> Who cares what your income is? Not I.
> 
> LOL! Of course you do.

Nope. And I make NO comparisons. I do not care. Meanwhile you fantasize 
about making more than I do (see above where YOU speak of this). Your 
whole focus in life is ME. It is sickening.

> You're the one who's been going on about how I 
> "have NOTHING to show"
> for my web knowledge, depstie the fact that I even offered your, for 
> *free*, some of my "NOTHING" ;)

Your "free" flood bot is not something for you to be proud of!

>> You two ( Mike and Steve ) can't agree on the rules of the game;
>>>
>>> What game? He said my knowledge is worth "NOTHING" because
>>> he hasn't seen what I "have" based on obtaining that knowledge.
>>> Being that he can't possibly know unless I tell him, only someone
>>> with a  crystal ball would make  such a statement. IOW, it's a nice
>>> way of calling him what he is. Hey, you said I could be nicer ;)
>>>
>> Your game is to work to twist words
> 
> You wrote what you wrote, don't blame "others" for being unable to 
> comprehend what you wrote. If you don't value knowledge for its own sake 
> that's your business... but it's a bizarre position for a teacher to take.

Perfect example of you twisting. Thanks for proving me right again.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#454280 — Re: Crying "foul".

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-06 20:34 -0700
SubjectRe: Crying "foul".
Message-ID<fnrndlFc0teU15@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#454275
On 6/6/18 8:19 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> Steve told Mike:
>> I probably made more $$ from web dev in the first 3 months
>> of this year than you'll make all year ;)
> 
> And you paid for your adult kids' college, too;
> likely, your ex got some coin as well.

He claims to have such a thriving business... but also not a business at 
all and not even a website.

His whole goal is to be able to say he can do something I cannot. Who 
cares if he can? Not I! And the ONE actual "accomplishment" he has to 
show for it is his automated flooding of COLA.

I have no desire to do that!

> You two ( Mike and Steve ) can't agree on the rules of the game;
> instead, you constantly cry "foul", hoping someone will notice.

Carroll just lies about me and then when he backs himself into a corner 
he snips. I have been giving him chance after chance but he is blowing it.

Soon I will do a little test: and he will, no doubt, cry I am "running" 
from his idiocy.

> In "The Handmaid's Tale", Margaret Atwood is crying "foul";
> " I'm good, the game is bad ", is the gist of it.
> 
> She can't imagine a better game,
> one where everyone wants to play.
> 
> The " I know better than the market; every detail, always "
> concept is what's wrong with feminists and communists.

What?


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#454283 — Re: Crying "foul".

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-06 20:45 -0700
SubjectRe: Crying "foul".
Message-ID<244c678f-795a-4919-b86f-b305ccc3b5f4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#454280
On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 9:34:18 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> On 6/6/18 8:19 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> > Steve told Mike:
> >> I probably made more $$ from web dev in the first 3 months
> >> of this year than you'll make all year ;)
> > 
> > And you paid for your adult kids' college, too;
> > likely, your ex got some coin as well.
> 
> He claims to have such a thriving business... 

Correction: It's just a hobby ;)

> > You two ( Mike and Steve ) can't agree on the rules of the game;
> > instead, you constantly cry "foul", hoping someone will notice.
> 
> Carroll just lies about me

Give it a rest, Snit, you've repeatedly stated I have 
"NOTHING" to show for obtaining my knowledge. 
People often learn for the love of it... any good 
teacher knows this.

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#454286 — Re: Crying "foul".

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-06 20:48 -0700
SubjectRe: Crying "foul".
Message-ID<fnro8eFc0teU18@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#454283
On 6/6/18 8:45 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 9:34:18 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>> On 6/6/18 8:19 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>> Steve told Mike:
>>>> I probably made more $$ from web dev in the first 3 months
>>>> of this year than you'll make all year ;)
>>>
>>> And you paid for your adult kids' college, too;
>>> likely, your ex got some coin as well.
>>
>> He claims to have such a thriving business...
> 
> Correction: It's just a hobby ;)
> 
>>> You two ( Mike and Steve ) can't agree on the rules of the game;
>>> instead, you constantly cry "foul", hoping someone will notice.
>>
>> Carroll just lies about me
> 
> Give it a rest, Snit, you've repeatedly stated I have
> "NOTHING" to show for obtaining my knowledge.
> People often learn for the love of it... any good
> teacher knows this.
> 

As noted: you snip, twist, and lie.


Why don't you spend some time learning how to have a conversation? I am 
VERY patient but you are getting to the point of being not even worth my 
time to respond.

I will, however, respond to your bot from time to time... you have said 
much if not all of it is hand-written, so it is still just you. See if 
you move from this account to that with your "non-bot" writing.

Of course, my telling you that will change your behavior... in a very 
predictable ways. :)

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#454292 — Re: Crying "foul".

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-06 22:01 -0600
SubjectRe: Crying "foul".
Message-ID<pfaalu$3di$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#454286
On 2018-06-07 03:48:30 +0000, Snit said:

> On 6/6/18 8:45 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 9:34:18 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>> On 6/6/18 8:19 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>> Steve told Mike:
>>>>> I probably made more $$ from web dev in the first 3 months
>>>>> of this year than you'll make all year ;)
>>>> 
>>>> And you paid for your adult kids' college, too;
>>>> likely, your ex got some coin as well.
>>> 
>>> He claims to have such a thriving business...
>> 
>> Correction: It's just a hobby ;)
>> 
>>>> You two ( Mike and Steve ) can't agree on the rules of the game;
>>>> instead, you constantly cry "foul", hoping someone will notice.
>>> 
>>> Carroll just lies about me
>> 
>> Give it a rest, Snit, you've repeatedly stated I have
>> "NOTHING" to show for obtaining my knowledge.
>> People often learn for the love of it... any good
>> teacher knows this.
>> 
> 
> As noted: you snip, twist, and lie.

"But when it comes to doing anything for your income or for others you
have NOTHING to show for it...". - Snit

Those are your words... written this evening. And you wrote them 
despite the fact that I freely offered some of my "NOTHING" to you... 
such gratitude <eyeroll>. What a weasel.

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#454293 — Re: Crying "foul".

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-06 21:10 -0700
SubjectRe: Crying "foul".
Message-ID<fnrph4Fc0teU24@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#454292
On 6/6/18 9:01 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On 2018-06-07 03:48:30 +0000, Snit said:
> 
>> On 6/6/18 8:45 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 9:34:18 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>>>> On 6/6/18 8:19 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>>>> Steve told Mike:
>>>>>> I probably made more $$ from web dev in the first 3 months
>>>>>> of this year than you'll make all year ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> And you paid for your adult kids' college, too;
>>>>> likely, your ex got some coin as well.
>>>>
>>>> He claims to have such a thriving business...
>>>
>>> Correction: It's just a hobby ;)
>>>
>>>>> You two ( Mike and Steve ) can't agree on the rules of the game;
>>>>> instead, you constantly cry "foul", hoping someone will notice.
>>>>
>>>> Carroll just lies about me
>>>
>>> Give it a rest, Snit, you've repeatedly stated I have
>>> "NOTHING" to show for obtaining my knowledge.
>>> People often learn for the love of it... any good
>>> teacher knows this.
>>>
>>
>> As noted: you snip, twist, and lie.
> 
> "But when it comes to doing anything for your income or for others you
> have NOTHING to show for it...". - Snit
> 
> Those are your words... written this evening. And you wrote them despite 
> the fact that I freely offered some of my "NOTHING" to you... such 
> gratitude <eyeroll>. What a weasel.
> 
Other than twisting my words to keep my attention do you have anything 
you want to share? How about talking about tech? Working in any 
interesting projects other than your flood bot?

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#454299 — We're mostly talking to ourselves.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-06-06 21:27 -0700
SubjectWe're mostly talking to ourselves.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.6--9.27pm.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#454292
> " But when it comes to doing anything for your income, 
>   or for others, you have NOTHING to show for it...". - Snit
> 
> Those are your words... written this evening.  And you wrote them 
> despite the fact that I freely offered some of my "NOTHING" to you... 
> such gratitude <eyeroll>.  What a weasel.

Mike was looking in the mirror, talking to himself,
when he wrote that.  

Despite appearances, we're mostly talking to ourselves.

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#454300 — Re: We're mostly talking to ourselves.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-07 05:43 +0000
SubjectRe: We're mostly talking to ourselves.
Message-ID<fnrv0aFea3pU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#454299
<Jeff-Relf.Me  @.> wrote:
>> " But when it comes to doing anything for your income, 
>> or for others, you have NOTHING to show for it...". - Snit
>> 
>> Those are your words... written this evening.  And you wrote them 
>> despite the fact that I freely offered some of my "NOTHING" to you... 
>> such gratitude <eyeroll>.  What a weasel.
> 
> Mike was looking in the mirror, talking to himself,
> when he wrote that.  
> 
> Despite appearances, we're mostly talking to ourselves.
> 

You just wrote that to yourself. 

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