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Slaughtering concert goers.

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First post2018-05-31 05:22 -0700
Last post2018-06-04 23:17 -0500
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  Slaughtering concert goers. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-31 05:22 -0700
    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Snit's family hates him" <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 05:43 -0700
    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 12:06 -0400
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 10:02 -0700
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 15:49 -0400
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-05-31 20:12 +0000
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 17:20 -0400
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit took things out of COLA and called the cops <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-31 13:19 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 16:37 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 19:57 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 17:12 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-05-31 21:38 -0400
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 21:32 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 02:42 -0400
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:54 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:22 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 17:36 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:07 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:31 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:47 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:11 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:15 -0500
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 09:18 -0700
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 08:50 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 09:09 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 22:53 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:39 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 00:16 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Fuck Snit <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 01:14 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 11:29 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:43 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 14:33 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:58 -0400
    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-05-31 19:49 -0500
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-05-31 17:51 -0700
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 21:26 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 02:39 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit calls the cops when he steps on his dick <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 03:50 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:57 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:13 -0400
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 03:21 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit calls the cops when he steps on his dick <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 05:09 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:46 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 08:12 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 08:27 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 11:59 -0700
                    Re: ❄ Snowflake ❄ Slaughtering concert goers. ❄ Snowflake ❄ Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-01 14:07 -0500
                      Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 18:50 -0700
                        Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:00 -0700
                          Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                            Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:29 -0700
                              Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:47 -0700
                                Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 00:18 -0700
                                  Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 09:14 -0700
                                    Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:48 -0700
                                      Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 14:28 -0700
                                        Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 20:14 -0400
                                          Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 00:18 +0000
                                          Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 00:18 +0000
                                            Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                              Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-02 21:20 -0400
                                                Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 19:03 -0700
                                                  Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 02:26 +0000
                                                    Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 19:45 -0700
                                                      Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 02:54 +0000
                                          Re: ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                Re: ❄ Snowflake ❄ ? Snowflake ? Slaughtering concert goers. ? Snowflake ? ❄ Snowflake ❄ Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-02 08:15 -0500
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit says unsupported claims are lies <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 12:10 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 12:30 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit says unsupported claims are lies <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 12:57 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 17:09 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 17:37 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 18:00 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 18:14 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:11 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:34 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:09 -0400
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:48 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 04:53 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Fuck Snit <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 04:54 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:11 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:12 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 22:41 +0000
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:09 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:32 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 00:47 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:05 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:31 -0400
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:01 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Fuck Snit <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 23:41 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:39 -0400
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 18:16 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:14 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Fuck Snit <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 20:33 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:35 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:19 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:40 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:26 -0400
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:11 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:15 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 20:36 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:32 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:03 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 21:48 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:34 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit wants to repeal the 2A <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 10:52 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:32 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 20:26 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-01 18:01 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-01 08:08 -0500
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:40 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:35 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:15 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:53 -0400
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 21:09 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:51 -0400
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:12 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 22:35 +0000
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-02 21:10 -0400
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 01:39 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:52 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-02 22:04 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 19:05 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 02:30 +0000
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:39 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:12 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:51 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-02 22:01 -0400
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 19:04 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 02:28 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 02:27 +0000
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:32 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 02:38 +0000
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:42 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 02:53 +0000
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:57 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:10 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 20:28 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:37 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Snit's dysautonomia http://bit.ly/2Jqpplk" <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 20:11 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:19 -0500
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:18 -0500
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-02 04:54 +0000
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:00 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-02 05:06 +0000
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 22:09 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:54 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. simon singh <ss1988singh980@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 22:33 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 03:41 +0000
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:11 -0700
                          The Supreme Court got it wrong. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 06:51 -0700
                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Fuck Snit <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 07:47 -0700
                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 08:23 -0700
                              The Second Amendment doesn't address recreational guns. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 08:45 -0700
                                Re: The Second Amendment doesn't address recreational guns. Fuck Snit <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 09:05 -0700
                                Re: The Second Amendment doesn't address recreational guns. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 09:17 -0700
                                  Re: The Second Amendment doesn't address recreational guns. Fuck Snit <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 09:36 -0700
                                Re: The Second Amendment doesn't address recreational guns. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:42 -0700
                                  Re: The Second Amendment doesn't address recreational guns. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 11:08 -0700
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Fuck Snit <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 08:50 -0700
                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 11:59 -0400
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:43 -0700
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 16:25 -0400
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:28 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 19:45 -0400
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:08 -0600
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-03 23:24 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 01:12 -0700
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:15 -0700
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:37 -0700
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 10:48 -0700
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:00 -0700
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 13:27 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:32 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 16:58 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 21:38 -0400
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:49 -0700
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 03:49 +0000
                                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:45 -0700
                                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Snit's dysautonomia http://bit.ly/2Jqpplk" <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 22:17 -0700
                                      Permission to breath ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 19:10 -0700
                                        Re: Permission to breath ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:13 -0700
                                          Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:07 -0700
                                            Re: Permission to breath ? % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 20:10 -0700
                                              Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:53 -0700
                                                Re: Permission to breath ? "Snit's dysautonomia http://bit.ly/2Jqpplk" <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 21:30 -0700
                                            Re: Permission to breath ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 23:33 -0400
                                              Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:42 -0700
                                                Re: Permission to breath ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 07:57 -0400
                                                  Re: Permission to breath ? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 06:31 -0700
                                                  Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:08 -0700
                                              Re: Permission to breath ? "Snit's dysautonomia http://bit.ly/2Jqpplk" <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 20:58 -0700
                                        Re: Permission to breath ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:07 -0700
                                          Clarity. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-03 08:52 -0700
                                            Re: Clarity. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 09:54 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Snit's dysautonomia http://bit.ly/2Jqpplk" <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 13:33 -0700
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-03 03:46 +0000
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:53 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 22:59 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 23:19 -0700
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-03 09:10 -0700
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 00:31 -0700
                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:31 -0400
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:12 +0000
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:26 -0400
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:37 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:10 -0400
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:54 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 22:19 -0500
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:58 -0700
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-07 00:24 -0400
                                        Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 05:43 +0000
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 10:15 -0700
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 10:59 -0700
                                          Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-08 07:17 +0000
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:21 -0700
                                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 16:07 +0000
                                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:30 -0700
                                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 01:32 +0000
                                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 18:34 -0700
                                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:50 -0700
                                                    "Natural Rights" aren't always wonderful. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 19:02 -0700
                                                      Re: "Natural Rights" aren't always wonderful. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 19:14 -0700
                                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 19:17 -0700
                                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:49 -0700
                                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 10:06 -0700
                                                Depressed Losers, slaughtering consert goers, is "natural" ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 12:21 -0700
                                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 03:52 -0700
                            Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 02:18 -0400
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 01:41 -0700
                              Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:25 -0700
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 07:45 -0700
                                Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:38 -0400
                                  Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:43 -0700
                                    Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:16 -0400
                                      Re: The Supreme Court got it wrong. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:03 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 09:46 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Fuck Snit <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 10:08 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:53 -0400
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
                      Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-02 06:27 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:14 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 10:38 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 10:57 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 13:27 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 13:29 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-02 16:57 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 18:25 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:53 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 19:29 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 20:09 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 21:02 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 21:32 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-03 07:59 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 04:02 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:03 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:12 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:38 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 11:43 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:53 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:04 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:16 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:26 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:33 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:38 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 12:44 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 13:14 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 13:17 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 13:21 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 16:40 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 16:47 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:57 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:00 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 17:05 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:13 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 18:31 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 18:40 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 19:00 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 03:44 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 08:39 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-04 17:37 -0400
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 15:54 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 04:01 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:02 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:13 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 11:39 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 11:54 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 12:05 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 16:41 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 16:48 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 17:07 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:14 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 17:17 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 17:21 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-03 18:31 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 18:43 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 03:45 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 08:40 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 12:03 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:04 -0400
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 12:05 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 00:47 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 01:11 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:13 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:04 -0400
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:21 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 20:37 -0400
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:05 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:30 -0400
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:03 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 17:26 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:02 -0400
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:02 -0400
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 17:59 -0400
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 15:05 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:10 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:24 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 16:27 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:44 -0400
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:00 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:42 -0400
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:12 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-04 17:27 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 15:47 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-04 23:47 -0400
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:51 -0500
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 07:19 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 08:06 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 09:37 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:51 +0000
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 13:18 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:50 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:33 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 16:50 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:09 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:32 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:04 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 22:35 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 04:09 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:10 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 18:48 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 07:48 -0500
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:27 -0500
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 16:30 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 17:58 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:41 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 08:55 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:32 -0500
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 16:33 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-06 15:34 -0500
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-06 19:03 -0400
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 17:54 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 17:51 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:45 -0500
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:00 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:15 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:33 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:41 -0400
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:11 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:09 -0400
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:24 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:17 -0400
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:50 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:08 -0400
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:23 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:01 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:10 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:32 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:06 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-08 05:15 +0000
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:49 -0500
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 07:22 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:11 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 21:30 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:54 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:06 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:42 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers like a meat packing service. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:50 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:07 -0500
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:31 +0000
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 21:45 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit ignores the 9th amendment <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 19:30 -0700
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-31 21:25 -0700
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 02:37 -0400
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:57 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:51 -0400
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-01 08:00 -0500
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 06:26 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit calls the cops when he steps on his dick <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 06:58 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 21:28 -0400
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 19:12 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-01 23:27 -0400
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 21:07 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-02 01:44 -0400
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:09 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:19 -0600
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:23 -0600
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 20:31 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 22:09 -0600
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 21:14 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:35 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:47 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 13:44 -0600
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:10 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:19 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 23:53 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 13:57 -0600
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:22 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:30 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Your Friendly Neighbourhood Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2018-06-04 02:48 -0500
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:58 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:19 -0500
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 20:56 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:26 +0000
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:45 -0500
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:30 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 14:00 -0600
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:45 -0500
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:39 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 23:20 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 07:48 -0500
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 05:53 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:15 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 06:26 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 15:20 -0500
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:55 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:34 -0500
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:52 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-05 22:57 -0400
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:47 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 15:09 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:52 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 20:14 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-08 08:29 -0500
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 08:20 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 22:25 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:16 -0500
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 05:54 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-08 08:30 -0500
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-04 21:32 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 00:34 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 14:07 -0600
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 13:16 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 13:27 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-04 17:07 -0600
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 16:18 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-04 16:46 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 17:04 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 20:58 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:15 -0500
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 22:13 -0500
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-04 20:16 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:41 -0500
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 06:11 +0000
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 04:19 +0000
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-05 02:29 -0600
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 03:00 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 07:50 -0500
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 07:41 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-05 10:38 -0600
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 10:01 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 12:55 -0500
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 11:23 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 07:58 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 08:11 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 11:56 -0700
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-06-05 14:58 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 12:17 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 13:02 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:45 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 14:51 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 14:56 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:02 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:47 -0400
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:51 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:04 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:04 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:49 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:45 -0400
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:50 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:05 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 17:11 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:20 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 22:42 -0400
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:46 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:46 -0400
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:15 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 21:45 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 19:13 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:36 -0400
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 21:07 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:01 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 22:55 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:47 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 21:08 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 21:29 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:02 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:07 -0700
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 22:44 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 22:52 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-09 02:13 -0400
                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 23:20 -0700
                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 06:22 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 07:32 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:16 +0000
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 08:28 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:50 +0000
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 09:23 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:51 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 10:13 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 10:29 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:35 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-09 20:16 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 21:08 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-10 14:33 -0700
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 14:54 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 14:56 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 15:25 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 17:04 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 17:02 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 12:00 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 13:42 -0600
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:32 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 14:35 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 16:24 -0600
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:34 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-09 17:31 -0600
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:42 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 23:47 +0000
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:57 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 00:21 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:33 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 21:38 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 04:59 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 22:39 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 05:52 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-06-10 06:07 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 00:59 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 08:36 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 08:28 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 16:04 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 09:22 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 09:37 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 09:43 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 11:16 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 11:57 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 05:26 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 05:52 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 23:51 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 08:36 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 11:56 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 12:31 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 12:34 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 15:23 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 15:33 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 11:00 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-07-23 11:00 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-10 01:39 -0600
                                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 08:36 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 01:46 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JW@me.com> - 2018-06-10 15:46 -0600
                                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 15:26 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 17:26 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:36 -0700
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 18:59 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:53 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 15:38 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:37 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:36 -0700
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 12:22 -0400
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:32 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:07 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 10:15 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 13:22 -0400
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 13:31 -0400
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 10:35 -0700
                                                                    Truth Avoidance. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-06-09 12:11 -0700
                                                                      Re: Truth Avoidance. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:33 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 12:20 -0400
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 09:31 -0700
                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 21:12 +0000
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:31 -0700
                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Horace <skinnydude@a1c.org> - 2018-06-09 18:41 -0400
                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 15:46 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:36 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 16:42 -0700
                                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 16:43 -0700
                                                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 16:50 -0700
                                                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 17:08 -0700
                                                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 17:11 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:32 -0700
                                                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 23:55 -0700
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-10 08:36 +0000
                                                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 11:53 -0700
                                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 00:16 -0700
                                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 12:03 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:20 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 16:43 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 16:59 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:06 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:33 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:05 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 18:06 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:11 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-06 04:17 -0700
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-06 19:03 -0400
                                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-07 05:56 -0700
                                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-07 22:05 -0400
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:05 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:49 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 18:45 -0400
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 16:46 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:04 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:23 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 17:26 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:03 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:09 -0400
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:52 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-07 15:08 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:51 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:18 -0500
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-08 08:14 -0700
                                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 11:55 -0700
                                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 23:22 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 23:07 -0400
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 20:50 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 17:00 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:12 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 17:56 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:07 -0700
                                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 17:38 -0700
                                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 17:57 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:08 -0700
                                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-05 22:45 -0700
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-06 04:18 -0700
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 15:05 +0000
                                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 09:07 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 16:59 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-08 07:17 -0500
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 17:10 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Klaus  Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net> - 2018-06-05 18:01 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:09 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 22:57 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-05 20:36 -0500
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-05 18:51 -0700
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-01 09:09 -0400
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit calls the cops when he steps on his dick <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 06:43 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 07:39 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-01 13:29 -0400
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 11:09 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit wants to repeal the 2A <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 11:23 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-01 17:20 -0400
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit says unsupported claims are lies <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-01 14:32 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 14:35 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-01 23:08 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-01 23:15 -0700
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 11:26 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 11:42 -0700
                        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 14:32 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-02 20:37 -0400
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 00:47 +0000
                            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 17:57 -0700
                              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 18:30 -0700
                                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-02 18:51 -0700
                                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> - 2018-06-02 19:32 -0700
                          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Snit's dysautonomia http://bit.ly/2Jqpplk" <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-02 19:41 -0700
                      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. "Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net> - 2018-06-05 00:09 -0400
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:12 -0600
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 22:32 +0000
      Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 15:59 -0600
        Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 15:02 -0700
          Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:24 -0600
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 16:01 -0700
              Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:14 -0600
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-03 20:28 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 20:33 -0700
                  Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:58 -0600
                    Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:04 -0700
                Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Checkmate <ricksabian1@gmail.com> - 2018-06-03 21:02 -0700
            Re: Slaughtering concert goers. !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> - 2018-06-04 23:17 -0500

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#453236

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-01 23:11 -0700
Message-ID<fneqp2FtdvgU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#453227
On 6/1/18 10:47 PM, Scout wrote:
...
>> So you have nothing to counter and just want to push insults. Fair 
>> enough.
> 
> What's to counter?

Whatever you say you disagree with. Of course. For example, you have 
said you disagree with the common use of the term "bear arms" (as noted 
below) and think the second amendment used it in a way that is all but 
unheard of. So far you have offered no evidence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html
-----
A search of Brigham Young University’s new online Corpus of Founding Era 
American English, with more than 95,000 texts and 138 million words, 
yields 281 instances of the phrase “bear arms.” BYU’s Corpus of Early 
Modern English, with 40,000 texts and close to 1.3 billion words, shows 
1,572 instances of the phrase. Subtracting about 350 duplicate matches, 
that leaves about 1,500 separate occurrences of “bear arms” in the 17th 
and 18th centuries, and only a handful don’t refer to war, soldiering or 
organized, armed action. These databases confirm that the natural 
meaning of “bear arms” in the framers’ day was military. But we 
shouldn’t need big data to tell us this. “Bear arms” has never worked 
comfortably with the language of personal self-defense, hunting or 
target practice.
-----
...


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#454391

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-06-08 07:15 -0500
Message-ID<6qskhd97gepo9ku0jtkr5td60pivl7a5ht@4ax.com>
In reply to#453136
Scout wrote:

>"Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote

*plonk*

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#453055

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-01 09:18 -0700
Message-ID<9f8b7c4d-cbf5-4388-9941-9aa5c710985b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#452973
On Thursday, May 31, 2018 at 10:32:06 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> On 5/31/18 6:38 PM, benj wrote:
> > On 5/31/2018 8:12 PM, Snit wrote:
> >> On 5/31/18 4:57 PM, benj wrote:
> >>> On 5/31/2018 7:37 PM, Snit wrote:
> >>>> On 5/31/18 12:49 PM, benj wrote:
> >>>>> On 5/31/2018 1:02 PM, Snit wrote:
> >>>>>> On 5/31/18 9:06 AM, benj wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 5/31/2018 8:22 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> " My armed guards aren’t killing children " -- Chelsea Handler
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The " well regulated militia ", envisioned in the constitution,
> >>>>>>>> did not include depressed gunmen in Las Vegas Hotel rooms
> >>>>>>>> slaughtering concert goers.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> it certainly did however envision citizens defending the country 
> >>>>>>> AND themselves from armed nutjobs foreign or domestic. You don't 
> >>>>>>> have to sign up for the military to know that this is an oath of 
> >>>>>>> duty on every citizen. And that certainly includes YOU, Rolf.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html> 
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> OR <https://goo.gl/N9wtKB>
> >>>>>> -----
> >>>>>> A search of Brigham Young University’s new online Corpus of 
> >>>>>> Founding Era American English, with more than 95,000 texts and 138 
> >>>>>> million words, yields 281 instances of the phrase “bear arms.” 
> >>>>>> BYU’s Corpus of Early Modern English, with 40,000 texts and close 
> >>>>>> to 1.3 billion words, shows 1,572 instances of the phrase. 
> >>>>>> Subtracting about 350 duplicate matches, that leaves about 1,500 
> >>>>>> separate occurrences of “bear arms” in the 17th and 18th 
> >>>>>> centuries, and only a handful don’t refer to war, soldiering or 
> >>>>>> organized, armed action. These databases confirm that the natural 
> >>>>>> meaning of “bear arms” in the framers’ day was military. But we 
> >>>>>> shouldn’t need big data to tell us this. “Bear arms” has never 
> >>>>>> worked comfortably with the language of personal self-defense, 
> >>>>>> hunting or target practice.
> >>>>>> -----
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The NRA twists the meaning... and the SCOTUS did, too, in 2008.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well, Shit! The reporters at the Washington Post say the justice of 
> >>>>> the supreme court was wrong! Hey anonymous liberal voices on the 
> >>>>> internet say so too! Well that pretty much make it "settled facts". 
> >>>>> Who can doubt authority like that?  Everyone knows that "bear arms" 
> >>>>> really means that citizens get to carry their firearms to 
> >>>>> government 'buybacks' and turn them in. It never meant that you 
> >>>>> could own or carry them. Terrorists at the colonial NRA had spread 
> >>>>> the lie and convinced all those Americans from the founding to say 
> >>>>> 1960 that the sentence meant that colonial men had the right to 
> >>>>> join a standing army which they all strongly supported and NO right 
> >>>>> to any self-defense which has always been a crime in America.  The 
> >>>>> issue is settled. Liberals have spoken and nothing more is 
> >>>>> permitted to be said.
> >>>>>
> >>>> The evidence shows that the meaning is not what the NRA says... and 
> >>>> that the change made in 2008 was not based on the historical 
> >>>> evidence. But, hey, instead of facing that you can twist and blame 
> >>>> "liberals" for the facts. I get it: to you facts are liberal.
> >>>>
> >>> Sorry snit but you libs don't do facts. Reality is something none of 
> >>> you can handle. Like the reality that since the founding of the 
> >>> country "bear arms" under the 2nd amendment has always meant for 
> >>> people to walk around with arms. They knew what word "infringed" 
> >>> meant back then. To say that "bear" means to carry firearms in a 
> >>> standing army is so hideously anti-historical as to defy credulity. 
> >>> Oh wait, you are a lib so truth has no place in your thoughts. Are 
> >>> you so uneducated that you don't know that the founders absolutely 
> >>> hated standing armies and considered them a passport to tyranny? Oh 
> >>> wait, I remember, in your world Benjamin Franklin invented the 
> >>> 'universal background check".
> >>> Makes sense just like republicans fighting to keep slavery, inventing 
> >>> KKK, Sim Crow, Segregation, and all other of the horrible and racist 
> >>> things that the Criminal terrorist NRA stand for today!
> >>>
> >>
> >> Again, I am speaking of the evidence. You are going into partisan 
> >> attacks and insults and claim without support. For example, you say:
> > 
> > Who do you think you are fooling Mr/ms."evidence"? Don't act innocent 
> > and a victim because you are NOT. Your argument is total nonsense. It's 
> > some fantasy with no basis in truth. Ranks up there with the last wet 
> > dream you libs had that said colonials never owned guns. Truth and 
> > honest discussion isn't something you do. And that is not a partisan 
> > attack and insult it is observed proven truth.
> > 
> >>      -----
> >>      Like the reality that since the founding of the country
> >>      "bear arms" under the 2nd amendment has always meant for
> >>      people to walk around with arms."
> >>      ----
> >>
> >> This is contradicted by the very meaning of how the phrase "bear arms" 
> >> is and was used, and by laws that existed at the time of the founding 
> >> of the country. This is not hard to show. There is, in a word, a lot 
> >> of evidence contrary to your claim.
> > 
> > There is not except in your fantasies. Your argument is just garbage. 
> > How many times a word is used in some context is no criterion for the 
> > meaning employed in a given instance. Facts of history show your twisted 
> > logic to be pure fantasy. The agreed enforcement of the 2nd amendment 
> > for centuries puts the lie to your theory.
> 
> The meaning of the words matter. How they are used matters.

Except the 9th amendment, right, Snit?

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#453049

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-01 08:50 -0700
Message-ID<perq4u$smq$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#452875
In news:fnao4dF5v5mU1@mid.individual.net,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> On 5/31/18 9:06 AM, benj wrote:
>> On 5/31/2018 8:22 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:

>>>> " My armed guards aren't killing children " -- Chelsea Handler

>>> The " well regulated militia ", envisioned in the constitution,
>>> did not include depressed gunmen in Las Vegas Hotel rooms
>>> slaughtering concert goers.

>> it certainly did however envision citizens defending the country AND
>> themselves from armed nutjobs foreign or domestic. You don't have to
>> sign up for the military to know that this is an oath of duty on
>> every citizen. And that certainly includes YOU, Rolf.

> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html>
> OR <https://goo.gl/N9wtKB>
> -----
> A search of Brigham Young University's new online Corpus of Founding  Era
> American English, with more than 95,000 texts and 138 million words,
> yields 281 instances of the phrase "bear arms." BYU's Corpus of Early
> Modern English, with 40,000 texts and close to 1.3 billion words, shows
> 1,572 instances of the phrase. Subtracting about 350 duplicate matches,
> that leaves about 1,500 separate occurrences of "bear arms" in the 17th
> and 18th centuries, and only a handful don't refer to war, soldiering or
> organized, armed action. These databases confirm that the natural
> meaning of "bear arms" in the framers' day was military. But we
> shouldn't need big data to tell us this. "Bear arms" has never worked
> comfortably with the language of personal self-defense, hunting or
> target practice.
> -----

> The NRA twists the meaning... and the SCOTUS did, too, in 2008.

Yeah, right. Ignore the writings of the Founding Fathers themselves, and look at other writers for
the meaning of the Founders.

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be
taught alike especially when young, how  to use them." --Richard Henry Lee

"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation that we cannot be trusted with
arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our
direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of
having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as
in our own hands?" --Patrick Henry

"This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty.. The right of self defense is the first 
law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the 
narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep 
and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already 
annihilated, is on the brink of destruction." --St. George Tucker

"(C)onceived it to be the privilege of every citizen, and one of his most essential rights, to bear
arms, and to resist every attack upon his liberty or property, by whomsoever made. The particular
States, like private citizens, have a right to be armed, and to defend by force of arms, their
rights, when invaded." --Roger Sherman

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are
neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and
better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed
man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." --Thomas Jefferson

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." --Thomas Jefferson 

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#453053

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-01 09:09 -0700
Message-ID<fnd9eaFkoo8U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#453049
On 6/1/18 8:50 AM, max headroom wrote:
> In news:fnao4dF5v5mU1@mid.individual.net,
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
> 
>> On 5/31/18 9:06 AM, benj wrote:
>>> On 5/31/2018 8:22 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> 
>>>>> " My armed guards aren't killing children " -- Chelsea Handler
> 
>>>> The " well regulated militia ", envisioned in the constitution,
>>>> did not include depressed gunmen in Las Vegas Hotel rooms
>>>> slaughtering concert goers.
> 
>>> it certainly did however envision citizens defending the country AND
>>> themselves from armed nutjobs foreign or domestic. You don't have to
>>> sign up for the military to know that this is an oath of duty on
>>> every citizen. And that certainly includes YOU, Rolf.
> 
>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html>
>> OR <https://goo.gl/N9wtKB>
>> -----
>> A search of Brigham Young University's new online Corpus of Founding  Era
>> American English, with more than 95,000 texts and 138 million words,
>> yields 281 instances of the phrase "bear arms." BYU's Corpus of Early
>> Modern English, with 40,000 texts and close to 1.3 billion words, shows
>> 1,572 instances of the phrase. Subtracting about 350 duplicate matches,
>> that leaves about 1,500 separate occurrences of "bear arms" in the 17th
>> and 18th centuries, and only a handful don't refer to war, soldiering or
>> organized, armed action. These databases confirm that the natural
>> meaning of "bear arms" in the framers' day was military. But we
>> shouldn't need big data to tell us this. "Bear arms" has never worked
>> comfortably with the language of personal self-defense, hunting or
>> target practice.
>> -----
> 
>> The NRA twists the meaning... and the SCOTUS did, too, in 2008.
> 
> Yeah, right.

Seems so.

> Ignore the writings of the Founding Fathers themselves, and look at other writers for
> the meaning of the Founders.

I disagree.

> "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be
> taught alike especially when young, how  to use them." --Richard Henry Lee

You left out half the quote... where he speaks of how this body of men 
should be a part of the militia! And, of note, the phrase "bear arms" -- 
the one in question -- is not used.

> "Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation that we cannot be trusted with
> arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our
> direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of
> having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as
> in our own hands?" --Patrick Henry

Neither the term "militia" nor the phrase "bear arms" is used.

> "This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty.. The right of self defense is the first
> law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the
> narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep
> and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already
> annihilated, is on the brink of destruction." --St. George Tucker

Ah, the use of "bear arms". Excellent. This is a good discussion of his 
views:

<http://scholarship.law.wm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1231&context=wmlr> 
OR <https://goo.gl/5WukkV>

Looking at his actual views he was speaking of -- you guessed it -- 
state rights. You can pull the quote of his out of context and try to 
put an NRA-type twist on it but that does not fit his actual words.

We can look at other quotes you find, robbed of their context, and I am 
sure find much the same.

Excellent discussion!

> "(C)onceived it to be the privilege of every citizen, and one of his most essential rights, to bear
> arms, and to resist every attack upon his liberty or property, by whomsoever made. The particular
> States, like private citizens, have a right to be armed, and to defend by force of arms, their
> rights, when invaded." --Roger Sherman
> 
> "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are
> neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and
> better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed
> man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." --Thomas Jefferson
> 
> "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." --Thomas Jefferson
> 
> 


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#453223

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-01 22:53 -0700
Message-ID<petbh1$ah9$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#453053
In news:fnd9eaFkoo8U1@mid.individual.net,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> On 6/1/18 8:50 AM, max headroom wrote:
>> In news:fnao4dF5v5mU1@mid.individual.net,
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>> On 5/31/18 9:06 AM, benj wrote:
>>>> On 5/31/2018 8:22 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:

>>>>>> " My armed guards aren't killing children " -- Chelsea Handler

>>>>> The " well regulated militia ", envisioned in the constitution,
>>>>> did not include depressed gunmen in Las Vegas Hotel rooms
>>>>> slaughtering concert goers.

>>>> it certainly did however envision citizens defending the country
>>>> AND themselves from armed nutjobs foreign or domestic. You don't
>>>> have to sign up for the military to know that this is an oath of
>>>> duty on every citizen. And that certainly includes YOU, Rolf.

>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html>
>>> OR <https://goo.gl/N9wtKB>
>>> -----
>>> A search of Brigham Young University's new online Corpus of
>>> Founding  Era American English, with more than 95,000 texts and 138
>>> million words, yields 281 instances of the phrase "bear arms."
>>> BYU's Corpus of Early Modern English, with 40,000 texts and close
>>> to 1.3 billion words, shows 1,572 instances of the phrase.
>>> Subtracting about 350 duplicate matches, that leaves about 1,500
>>> separate occurrences of "bear arms" in the 17th and 18th centuries,
>>> and only a handful don't refer to war, soldiering or organized,
>>> armed action. These databases confirm that the natural meaning of
>>> "bear arms" in the framers' day was military. But we shouldn't need
>>> big data to tell us this. "Bear arms" has never worked comfortably
>>> with the language of personal self-defense, hunting or target
>>> practice. -----

>>> The NRA twists the meaning... and the SCOTUS did, too, in 2008.

>> Yeah, right.

> Seems so.

Seems not. The correct phrase is "keep and bear arms" and it does work comfortably with the language
of personal self-defense.

>> Ignore the writings of the Founding Fathers themselves, and look at other writers for
>> the meaning of the Founders.

> I disagree.

Then why did you do it?

>> "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people
>> always possess arms, and be taught alike especially when young, how
>> to use them." --Richard Henry Lee

> You left out half the quote... where he speaks of how this body of men
> should be a part of the militia! And, of note, the phrase "bear arms"
> -- the one in question -- is not used.

The phrase isn't, but the meaning "keep and bear arms" is clearly there.

>> "Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation
>> that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the
>> difference between having our arms in possession and under our
>> direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our
>> defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can
>> they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in
>> our own hands?" --Patrick Henry

> Neither the term "militia" nor the phrase "bear arms" is used.

The phrase isn't, but the meaning "keep and bear arms" is clearly there.

>> "This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty.. The right
>> of self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it
>> has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the
>> narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and
>> the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or
>> pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated,
>> is on the brink of destruction." --St. George Tucker

> Ah, the use of "bear arms". Excellent. This is a good discussion of his
> views:

> <http://scholarship.law.wm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1231&context=wmlr>
> OR <https://goo.gl/5WukkV>

> Looking at his actual views he was speaking of -- you guessed it --
> state rights. You can pull the quote of his out of context and try to
> put an NRA-type twist on it but that does not fit his actual words.

His actual words are "keep and bear arms." As Roger Sherman noted below, "[t]he particular States, 
like private citizens, have a right to be armed,..."

> We can look at other quotes you find, robbed of their context, and I am
> sure find much the same.

> Excellent discussion!

Of course!

>> "(C)onceived it to be the privilege of every citizen, and one of his
>> most essential rights, to bear arms, and to resist every attack upon
>> his liberty or property, by whomsoever made. The particular States,
>> like private citizens, have a right to be armed, and to defend by
>> force of arms, their rights, when invaded." --Roger Sherman



[crickets]



>> "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a
>> nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor
>> determined to commit crimes.. Such laws make things worse for the
>> assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to
>> encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be
>> attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." --Thomas
>> Jefferson



[crickets]



>> "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." --Thomas
>> Jefferson



[crickets] 

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#453240

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-01 23:13 -0700
Message-ID<fneqscFtdvgU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#453223
On 6/1/18 10:53 PM, max headroom wrote:
> In news:fnd9eaFkoo8U1@mid.individual.net,
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
> 
>> On 6/1/18 8:50 AM, max headroom wrote:
>>> In news:fnao4dF5v5mU1@mid.individual.net,
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>> On 5/31/18 9:06 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>> On 5/31/2018 8:22 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> " My armed guards aren't killing children " -- Chelsea Handler
> 
>>>>>> The " well regulated militia ", envisioned in the constitution,
>>>>>> did not include depressed gunmen in Las Vegas Hotel rooms
>>>>>> slaughtering concert goers.
> 
>>>>> it certainly did however envision citizens defending the country
>>>>> AND themselves from armed nutjobs foreign or domestic. You don't
>>>>> have to sign up for the military to know that this is an oath of
>>>>> duty on every citizen. And that certainly includes YOU, Rolf.
> 
>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html>
>>>> OR <https://goo.gl/N9wtKB>
>>>> -----
>>>> A search of Brigham Young University's new online Corpus of
>>>> Founding  Era American English, with more than 95,000 texts and 138
>>>> million words, yields 281 instances of the phrase "bear arms."
>>>> BYU's Corpus of Early Modern English, with 40,000 texts and close
>>>> to 1.3 billion words, shows 1,572 instances of the phrase.
>>>> Subtracting about 350 duplicate matches, that leaves about 1,500
>>>> separate occurrences of "bear arms" in the 17th and 18th centuries,
>>>> and only a handful don't refer to war, soldiering or organized,
>>>> armed action. These databases confirm that the natural meaning of
>>>> "bear arms" in the framers' day was military. But we shouldn't need
>>>> big data to tell us this. "Bear arms" has never worked comfortably
>>>> with the language of personal self-defense, hunting or target
>>>> practice. -----
> 
>>>> The NRA twists the meaning... and the SCOTUS did, too, in 2008.
> 
>>> Yeah, right.
> 
>> Seems so.
> 
> Seems not. The correct phrase is "keep and bear arms" and it does work comfortably with the language
> of personal self-defense.
> 
>>> Ignore the writings of the Founding Fathers themselves, and look at other writers for
>>> the meaning of the Founders.
> 
>> I disagree.
> 
> Then why did you do it?
> 
>>> "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people
>>> always possess arms, and be taught alike especially when young, how
>>> to use them." --Richard Henry Lee
> 
>> You left out half the quote... where he speaks of how this body of men
>> should be a part of the militia! And, of note, the phrase "bear arms"
>> -- the one in question -- is not used.
> 
> The phrase isn't, but the meaning "keep and bear arms" is clearly there.
> 
>>> "Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation
>>> that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the
>>> difference between having our arms in possession and under our
>>> direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our
>>> defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can
>>> they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in
>>> our own hands?" --Patrick Henry
> 
>> Neither the term "militia" nor the phrase "bear arms" is used.
> 
> The phrase isn't, but the meaning "keep and bear arms" is clearly there.
> 
>>> "This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty.. The right
>>> of self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it
>>> has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the
>>> narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and
>>> the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or
>>> pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated,
>>> is on the brink of destruction." --St. George Tucker
> 
>> Ah, the use of "bear arms". Excellent. This is a good discussion of his
>> views:
> 
>> <http://scholarship.law.wm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1231&context=wmlr>
>> OR <https://goo.gl/5WukkV>
> 
>> Looking at his actual views he was speaking of -- you guessed it --
>> state rights. You can pull the quote of his out of context and try to
>> put an NRA-type twist on it but that does not fit his actual words.
> 
> His actual words are "keep and bear arms." As Roger Sherman noted below, "[t]he particular States,
> like private citizens, have a right to be armed,..."
> 
>> We can look at other quotes you find, robbed of their context, and I am
>> sure find much the same.
> 
>> Excellent discussion!
> 
> Of course!
> 
>>> "(C)onceived it to be the privilege of every citizen, and one of his
>>> most essential rights, to bear arms, and to resist every attack upon
>>> his liberty or property, by whomsoever made. The particular States,
>>> like private citizens, have a right to be armed, and to defend by
>>> force of arms, their rights, when invaded." --Roger Sherman
> 
> 
> 
> [crickets]
> 
> 
> 
>>> "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a
>>> nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor
>>> determined to commit crimes.. Such laws make things worse for the
>>> assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to
>>> encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be
>>> attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." --Thomas
>>> Jefferson
> 
> 
> 
> [crickets]
> 
> 
> 
>>> "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." --Thomas
>>> Jefferson
> 
> 
> 
> [crickets]
> 
> 
Here is what you seem to want to refute but cannot:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html
-----
A search of Brigham Young University’s new online Corpus of Founding Era 
American English, with more than 95,000 texts and 138 million words, 
yields 281 instances of the phrase “bear arms.” BYU’s Corpus of Early 
Modern English, with 40,000 texts and close to 1.3 billion words, shows 
1,572 instances of the phrase. Subtracting about 350 duplicate matches, 
that leaves about 1,500 separate occurrences of “bear arms” in the 17th 
and 18th centuries, and only a handful don’t refer to war, soldiering or 
organized, armed action. These databases confirm that the natural 
meaning of “bear arms” in the framers’ day was military. But we 
shouldn’t need big data to tell us this. “Bear arms” has never worked 
comfortably with the language of personal self-defense, hunting or 
target practice.
-----

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#453245

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-01 23:39 -0700
Message-ID<pete3i$mrn$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#453240
In news:fneqscFtdvgU5@mid.individual.net,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> On 6/1/18 10:53 PM, max headroom wrote:
>> In news:fnd9eaFkoo8U1@mid.individual.net,
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>> On 6/1/18 8:50 AM, max headroom wrote:
>>>> In news:fnao4dF5v5mU1@mid.individual.net,
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>>>> On 5/31/18 9:06 AM, benj wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/31/2018 8:22 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:

>>>>>>>> " My armed guards aren't killing children " -- Chelsea Handler

>>>>>>> The " well regulated militia ", envisioned in the constitution,
>>>>>>> did not include depressed gunmen in Las Vegas Hotel rooms
>>>>>>> slaughtering concert goers.

>>>>>> it certainly did however envision citizens defending the country
>>>>>> AND themselves from armed nutjobs foreign or domestic. You don't
>>>>>> have to sign up for the military to know that this is an oath of
>>>>>> duty on every citizen. And that certainly includes YOU, Rolf.

>>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html>
>>>>> OR <https://goo.gl/N9wtKB>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> A search of Brigham Young University's new online Corpus of
>>>>> Founding  Era American English, with more than 95,000 texts and
>>>>> 138 million words, yields 281 instances of the phrase "bear arms."
>>>>> BYU's Corpus of Early Modern English, with 40,000 texts and close
>>>>> to 1.3 billion words, shows 1,572 instances of the phrase.
>>>>> Subtracting about 350 duplicate matches, that leaves about 1,500
>>>>> separate occurrences of "bear arms" in the 17th and 18th
>>>>> centuries, and only a handful don't refer to war, soldiering or
>>>>> organized, armed action. These databases confirm that the natural
>>>>> meaning of "bear arms" in the framers' day was military. But we
>>>>> shouldn't need big data to tell us this. "Bear arms" has never
>>>>> worked comfortably with the language of personal self-defense,
>>>>> hunting or target practice. -----

>>>>> The NRA twists the meaning... and the SCOTUS did, too, in 2008.

>>>> Yeah, right.

>>> Seems so.

>> Seems not. The correct phrase is "keep and bear arms" and it does
>> work comfortably with the language of personal self-defense.

>>>> Ignore the writings of the Founding Fathers themselves, and look
>>>> at other writers for the meaning of the Founders.

>>> I disagree.

>> Then why did you do it?

>>>> "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people
>>>> always possess arms, and be taught alike especially when young, how
>>>> to use them." --Richard Henry Lee

>>> You left out half the quote... where he speaks of how this body of
>>> men should be a part of the militia! And, of note, the phrase "bear
>>> arms" -- the one in question -- is not used.

>> The phrase isn't, but the meaning "keep and bear arms" is clearly
>> there.

>>>> "Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation
>>>> that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the
>>>> difference between having our arms in possession and under our
>>>> direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our
>>>> defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can
>>>> they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in
>>>> our own hands?" --Patrick Henry

>>> Neither the term "militia" nor the phrase "bear arms" is used.

>> The phrase isn't, but the meaning "keep and bear arms" is clearly
>> there.

>>>> "This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty.. The
>>>> right
>>>> of self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it
>>>> has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the
>>>> narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up,
>>>> and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color
>>>> or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated,
>>>> is on the brink of destruction." --St. George Tucker

>>> Ah, the use of "bear arms". Excellent. This is a good discussion of
>>> his views:

>>> <http://scholarship.law.wm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1231&context=wmlr>
>>> OR <https://goo.gl/5WukkV>

>>> Looking at his actual views he was speaking of -- you guessed it --
>>> state rights. You can pull the quote of his out of context and try
>>> to put an NRA-type twist on it but that does not fit his actual
>>> words.

>> His actual words are "keep and bear arms." As Roger Sherman noted
>> below, "[t]he particular States, like private citizens, have a right
>> to be armed,..."

>>> We can look at other quotes you find, robbed of their context, and
>>> I am sure find much the same.

>>> Excellent discussion!

>> Of course!

>>>> "(C)onceived it to be the privilege of every citizen, and one of his
>>>> most essential rights, to bear arms, and to resist every attack upon
>>>> his liberty or property, by whomsoever made. The particular States,
>>>> like private citizens, have a right to be armed, and to defend by
>>>> force of arms, their rights, when invaded." --Roger Sherman



>> [crickets]



>>>> "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a
>>>> nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor
>>>> determined to commit crimes.. Such laws make things worse for the
>>>> assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to
>>>> encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be
>>>> attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." --Thomas
>>>> Jefferson



>> [crickets]



>>>> "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." --Thomas
>>>> Jefferson



>> [crickets]


> Here is what you seem to want to refute but cannot:

> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html

I just did.

If you want to know what the Founding Fathers meant, read *their* words. 

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#453249

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-02 00:16 -0700
Message-ID<fneuimFu37vU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#453245
On 6/1/18 11:39 PM, max headroom wrote:
> 
>> Here is what you seem to want to refute but cannot:
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html
> I just did.
> 
> If you want to know what the Founding Fathers meant, read*their*  words.

When did the founding fathers use the words "bear arms" except in the 
constitution?

Let me guess: You will now quote them saying things OTHER than that.


-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#453253

FromFuck Snit <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-02 01:14 -0700
Message-ID<41f7aef5-0728-431f-9cbd-78240723788e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#453249
On Saturday, June 2, 2018 at 12:16:42 AM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> On 6/1/18 11:39 PM, max headroom wrote:
> > 
> >> Here is what you seem to want to refute but cannot:
> >> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html
> > I just did.
> > 
> > If you want to know what the Founding Fathers meant, read*their*  words.
> 
> When did the founding fathers use the words "bear arms" except in the 
> constitution?
> 
> Let me guess: You will now quote them saying things OTHER than that.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
> cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
> somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
> 
> They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> 
> <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>



This is just a pastime of mine. What did Steve Petruzzellis expect from the lying imbecile? That Snit lummox has nothing to blow but time. He has nothing else, especially not a life. KDE is based on Linux. By the way, taking time building wisdom isn't wasted time. Claiming you know all and working to convince people that it is true, as Snit tries to do? THAT is a waste ;) With no support at all, as is usual for Snit. 

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#453331

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-02 11:29 -0700
Message-ID<peunr6$gka$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#453249
In news:fneuimFu37vU1@mid.individual.net,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> On 6/1/18 11:39 PM, max headroom wrote:

>>> Here is what you seem to want to refute but cannot:

Yeah, right. Trot out an opinion piece printed in a liberal newspaper, written by an author of an
amicus curiae brief submitted to the Supremes in the Heller case, which didn't sway the majority. Ya
think there might be a bit of bias here, or just sour grapes?

>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html

>> I just did.

>> If you want to know what the Founding Fathers meant, read *their* words.

> When did the founding fathers use the words "bear arms" except in the constitution?

The correct phrase is "keep and bear arms."

> Let me guess: You will now quote them saying things OTHER than that.

No. I'll provide a link.

http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=255 

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#453333

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-02 11:43 -0700
Message-ID<fng6quF774pU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#453331
On 6/2/18 11:29 AM, max headroom wrote:
> In news:fneuimFu37vU1@mid.individual.net,
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
> 
>> On 6/1/18 11:39 PM, max headroom wrote:
> 
>>>> Here is what you seem to want to refute but cannot:
> 
> Yeah, right. Trot out an opinion piece printed in a liberal newspaper, written by an author of an
> amicus curiae brief submitted to the Supremes in the Heller case, which didn't sway the majority. Ya
> think there might be a bit of bias here, or just sour grapes?
> 
>>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html
> 
>>> I just did.
> 
>>> If you want to know what the Founding Fathers meant, read *their* words.
> 
>> When did the founding fathers use the words "bear arms" except in the constitution?
> 
> The correct phrase is "keep and bear arms."
> 
>> Let me guess: You will now quote them saying things OTHER than that.
> 
> No. I'll provide a link.
> 
> http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=255
> 
> 
You call research on the actual meaning of "bear arms" something which 
is liberal.

Facts, you suggest, are liberal. The meaning of words is, to you, liberal.

That is a fine example of the twisting those who push for special 
entitlements will go through. Thank you for that example -- it backs my 
point well.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#453370

From"max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com>
Date2018-06-02 14:33 -0700
Message-ID<pev2mb$mdg$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#453333
In news:fng6quF774pU2@mid.individual.net,
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:

> On 6/2/18 11:29 AM, max headroom wrote:
>> In news:fneuimFu37vU1@mid.individual.net,
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
>>> On 6/1/18 11:39 PM, max headroom wrote:

>>>>> Here is what you seem to want to refute but cannot:

>> Yeah, right. Trot out an opinion piece printed in a liberal
>> newspaper, written by an author of an amicus curiae brief submitted
>> to the Supremes in the Heller case, which didn't sway the majority.
>> Ya think there might be a bit of bias here, or just sour grapes?

>>>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html

>>>> I just did.

>>>> If you want to know what the Founding Fathers meant, read *their*
>>>> words.

>>> When did the founding fathers use the words "bear arms" except in
>>> the constitution?

>> The correct phrase is "keep and bear arms."

>>> Let me guess: You will now quote them saying things OTHER than that.

>> No. I'll provide a link.

>> http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=255

> You call research on the actual meaning of "bear arms" something which is liberal.

> Facts, you suggest, are liberal. The meaning of words is, to you, liberal.
>
> That is a fine example of the twisting those who push for special entitlements will go through.
> Thank you for that example -- it backs my point well.

Your point is that your reading comprehension sucks. I referred to the Washington Post as liberal.
The rest are your straw men.

You dance with them. I won't. 

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#453360

Frombenj <benj@nobody.net>
Date2018-06-02 16:58 -0400
Message-ID<5yDQC.264252$ll2.146825@fx35.iad>
In reply to#453331
On 6/2/2018 2:29 PM, max headroom wrote:
> In news:fneuimFu37vU1@mid.individual.net,
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> typed:
> 
>> On 6/1/18 11:39 PM, max headroom wrote:
> 
>>>> Here is what you seem to want to refute but cannot:
> 
> Yeah, right. Trot out an opinion piece printed in a liberal newspaper, written by an author of an
> amicus curiae brief submitted to the Supremes in the Heller case, which didn't sway the majority. Ya
> think there might be a bit of bias here, or just sour grapes?
> 
>>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/antonin-scalia-was-wrong-about-the-meaning-of-bear-arms/2018/05/21/9243ac66-5d11-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html
> 
>>> I just did.
> 
>>> If you want to know what the Founding Fathers meant, read *their* words.
> 
>> When did the founding fathers use the words "bear arms" except in the constitution?
> 
> The correct phrase is "keep and bear arms."
> 
>> Let me guess: You will now quote them saying things OTHER than that.
> 
> No. I'll provide a link.
> 
> http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=255
> 
> 
Snit gets major "comeupance" (for pretending biased amicus is "proof") 
and then: SMACKDOWN! with true research showing bias and errors in 
previous arguments.

Truth = 1
Snit = 0

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#452957

From!Jones <jones@fobahor.com>
Date2018-05-31 19:49 -0500
Message-ID<jb51hd5ujv1rc6f3qhu1coe49q8crhj1um@4ax.com>
In reply to#452860
x-no-idiots: yes

On Thu, 31 May 2018 05:22:39 -0700 (Seattle), in talk.politics.guns
Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:

>The " well regulated militia ", envisioned in the constitution,
>did not include depressed gunmen in Las Vegas Hotel rooms
>slaughtering concert goers.

Actually, the "well regulated militia" was well detailed in article
six of our Document of Confederation and ratified in 1781.  Article
six is very clear about it and has never been repealed.  The second
amendment never redefined a "well regulated militia"; therefore, the
existing definition at the time holds.

The salient part reads: "[Every] State shall always keep up a
well-regulated and disciplined militia, sufficiently armed and
accoutered, and shall provide and constantly have ready for use, in
public stores, a due number of filed pieces and tents, and a proper
quantity of arms, ammunition and camp equipage."

Where are the arms kept?  I assume that a "filed piece" means a "field
piece" or light artillery?  But the arms are to be kept "in public
stores".  It wasn't about a clock that keeps good time.

Jones

--
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#452959

FromKlaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@null.net>
Date2018-05-31 17:51 -0700
Message-ID<c361hddj2rp9597q2a5epi9jvi4nlmc8ji@4ax.com>
In reply to#452957
On Thu, 31 May 2018 19:49:42 -0500, !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> wrote:

>Actually, the "well regulated militia" was well detailed in article
>six of our Document [sic] of Confederation and ratified in 1781.  Article
>six is very clear about it and has never been repealed. 

Holy SHIT you're stupid.

Of COURSE it's been "repealed," you ignorant fuck.

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#452972

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-05-31 21:26 -0700
Message-ID<fnc06pFctrvU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#452959
On 5/31/18 5:51 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2018 19:49:42 -0500, !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> wrote:
> 
>> Actually, the "well regulated militia" was well detailed in article
>> six of our Document [sic] of Confederation and ratified in 1781.  Article
>> six is very clear about it and has never been repealed.
> 
> Holy SHIT you're stupid.
> 
> Of COURSE it's been "repealed," you ignorant fuck.
> 
But the second amendment has not... and only in 2008, through the Heller 
case, was the meaning of it changed.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#452984

From"Scout" <me4guns@removethis.this2.spam.centurylink.net>
Date2018-06-01 02:39 -0400
Message-ID<peqri7$ofh$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#452972

"Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
news:fnc06pFctrvU3@mid.individual.net...
> On 5/31/18 5:51 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 May 2018 19:49:42 -0500, !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, the "well regulated militia" was well detailed in article
>>> six of our Document [sic] of Confederation and ratified in 1781. 
>>> Article
>>> six is very clear about it and has never been repealed.
>>
>> Holy SHIT you're stupid.
>>
>> Of COURSE it's been "repealed," you ignorant fuck.
>>
> But the second amendment has not... and only in 2008, through the Heller 
> case, was the meaning of it changed.

So tell us, how do you think it should be read?

Can you support your position as well as SCOTUS did in it's ruling?

Can you show a multitude of relevant cites from the time in which it is made 
abundantly clear that SCOTUS got it right in Heller?
 

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#452997

FromSnit calls the cops when he steps on his dick <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-01 03:50 -0700
Message-ID<b8a7fbf1-0bb6-4428-9bf6-b6f42f5eb06a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#452984
On Friday, June 1, 2018 at 12:11:05 AM UTC-7, Scout wrote:
> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
> news:fnc06pFctrvU3@mid.individual.net...
> > On 5/31/18 5:51 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> >> On Thu, 31 May 2018 19:49:42 -0500, !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Actually, the "well regulated militia" was well detailed in article
> >>> six of our Document [sic] of Confederation and ratified in 1781. 
> >>> Article
> >>> six is very clear about it and has never been repealed.
> >>
> >> Holy SHIT you're stupid.
> >>
> >> Of COURSE it's been "repealed," you ignorant fuck.
> >>
> > But the second amendment has not... and only in 2008, through the Heller 
> > case, was the meaning of it changed.
> 
> So tell us, how do you think it should be read?
> 
> Can you support your position as well as SCOTUS did in it's ruling?
> 
> Can you show a multitude of relevant cites from the time in which it is made 
> abundantly clear that SCOTUS got it right in Heller?



Frankly I do not really care. Don't look now, but I think Steven Petruzzellis has a serious mancrush on Snit Glasser. 

I am well aware the channel I link to from YouTube is merely layperson level. That said, it accomplished what I want.Usenet is a sovereign non-organization based on the belief in good character that Steven Petruzzellis lacks. 

GNU is based on Linux. Period. You are quick as a tuna on ice. 

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#453031

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-06-01 07:57 -0700
Message-ID<fnd56cFjtctU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#452984
On 5/31/18 11:39 PM, Scout wrote:
> 
> 
> "Snit" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message 
> news:fnc06pFctrvU3@mid.individual.net...
>> On 5/31/18 5:51 PM, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>> On Thu, 31 May 2018 19:49:42 -0500, !Jones <jones@fobahor.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually, the "well regulated militia" was well detailed in article
>>>> six of our Document [sic] of Confederation and ratified in 1781. 
>>>> Article
>>>> six is very clear about it and has never been repealed.
>>>
>>> Holy SHIT you're stupid.
>>>
>>> Of COURSE it's been "repealed," you ignorant fuck.
>>>
>> But the second amendment has not... and only in 2008, through the 
>> Heller case, was the meaning of it changed.
> 
> So tell us, how do you think it should be read?

As written. Here is some scholarly view on it:

1) 
https://digitalcommons.law.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2792&context=lawreview

| First, the second amendment was passed as an
| assurance to the states that they would have the
| right to maintain their own militias. Such
| militias were to be used as the centerpiece of the
| nation's military power, as an alternative to a
| large standing army, as a tool for the states to
| ensure public order, and as a means for the states
| to defend against the encroachment of federal
| power.
|
| Second, the second amendment does not operate as a
| restraint on the states. It acts as a restraint on the
| federal government.
|
| Third, there is no substantial historical evidence for
| the claim that the second amendment guarantees an
| individual right to have arms for any purpose other
| than participation in a state-regulated militia.
|
| Fourth, as long as federal gun laws do not adversely
| affect the organized state militias, these laws should
| encounter no second amendment problems.
|
| Fifth, because the state militias no longer rely on
| the use of privately-owned firearms by their active
| members, federal regulation of private gun ownership
| poses no threat to state militias, and therefore
| raises no constitutional issue. This is demonstrated
| by the remarkable unanimity of federal and state
| courts in upholding the constitutional validity of
| firearms laws against second amendment challenges.

2) http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1105369

| This article argues that the second amendment was
| initially proposed and passed in response to some
| antifederalist fears of a standing army. The
| thrust of the Amendment was to prevent the
| national government from disarming the state
| militias. Similarly, the Amendment allowed the
| states to arm their own militias if Congress
| failed to do so under its Article I, Section 8
| powers. The article notes that Madison and other
| Federalists who wrote the Second Amendment were
| fully aware of demands for an amendment to protect
| an individual's right to own weapons, and that the
| framers of the Second Amendment emphatically
| rejected this concept.

3) https://famguardian.org/Subjects/GunControl/Research/Reviews/rwstand.htm

| The contemporary meaning of the Second Amendment
| is the same as it was at the time of its adoption.
| The federal government may regulate the National
| Guard, but may not disarm it against the will of
| state legislatures. Nothing in the Second
| Amendment, however, precludes Congress or the
| states from requiring licensing and registration
| of firearms; in fact, there is nothing to stop an
| outright congressional ban on private ownership of
| all handguns and all rifles.

4) http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Papers.cfm?abstract_id=1465114

| Professor Bogus argues that there is strong reason
| to believe that, in significant part, James
| Madison drafted the Second Amendment to assure his
| constituents in Virginia, and the South generally,
| that Congress could not use its newly-acquired
| powers to indirectly undermine the slave system by
| disarming the militia, on which the South relied
| for slave control.

To add to that, we also have evidence in the actual way the terms "bear 
arms" and "militia" were used (already discussed) and we have early gun 
laws:

http://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4021&context=flr

| A variety of laws regulating firearms were already
| in place during the Founding Era. Militia
| regulations were the most common form of laws
| pertaining to firearms. Such laws could be quite
| intrusive, allowing government not only to keep
| track of who had firearms, but requiring them to
| report for a muster or face stiff penalties.
| Regulations governing the storage of gun powder
| were also common. States prohibited the use of
| firearms on certain occasions and in certain
| locations. A variety of race-based exclusions
| disarmed slaves, and in some cases, free blacks.
| Loyalty oaths also disarmed portions of the
| population during the Founding Era.
...
| Eighteenth-century statutes regulating the use of
| firearms can be classified as follows: statutes
| providing for the confiscation of firearms from
| persons unwilling to take an oath of allegiance to
| the state, statutes regulating the use of firearms
| within the context of militia obligations, and
| statutes regulating the storage of gunpowder. A
| smaller number of laws also regulated hunting and
| the discharge of firearms in certain places. These
| statutes make clear that regulation of firearms is
| hardly a modern invention.


> Can you support your position as well as SCOTUS did in it's ruling?
> 
> Can you show a multitude of relevant cites from the time in which it is 
> made abundantly clear that SCOTUS got it right in Heller?

Even in Heller, where the meaning of the Second Amendment was altered by 
judicial activism, it does not suggest that the modern NRA view is correct.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZS.html

It is about "the licensing requirement insofar as it prohibits carrying 
an unlicensed firearm in the home, and the trigger-lock requirement 
insofar as it prohibits the use of functional firearms in the home."

It is about having a common handgun in your home, not about carrying one 
around, no less other arms. It even specifically speaks of acceptance of 
"limits the type of weapon to which the right applies to those used by 
the militia, i.e., those in common use for lawful purposes".

It also notes that "the Second Amendment right is not unlimited" and 
specifically states "It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon 
whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose" and that 
this does not mean we cannot have "laws forbidding the carrying of 
firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, 
or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of 
arms" and it "finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting 
the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons".



-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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