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Possibly good?

Started by-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
First post2018-04-26 11:49 -0700
Last post2018-04-27 18:29 -0700
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  Possibly good? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-26 11:49 -0700
    Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 12:28 -0700
    Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-26 22:24 +0000
      Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-26 15:38 -0700
        Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 21:47 -0700
      Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 15:51 -0700
        Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-27 00:39 -0700
    Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-26 23:32 +0000
      Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-27 03:45 -0700
    Re: Possibly good? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-27 11:03 -0500
      Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-27 22:03 +0000
        Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-27 17:28 -0700
          Re: Possibly good? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 11:01 -0400
            Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 08:52 -0700
              Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 16:01 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 12:43 -0400
                  Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 09:56 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 09:48 -0700
                  Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 19:08 +0000
                    Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 13:00 -0700
                    Re: Possibly good? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 16:23 -0400
                      Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 13:36 -0700
                        Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 20:59 +0000
                          Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 14:11 -0700
                            Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 22:33 +0000
                              Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 15:35 -0700
                                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 22:56 +0000
                                  Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 16:06 -0700
                                    Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 23:21 +0000
                                      Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 16:42 -0700
                                        Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 14:27 +0000
                                          Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 10:26 -0700
                                          Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-29 19:27 -0400
                                            Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 16:54 -0700
                              Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 19:41 -0400
                      Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 20:56 +0000
                        Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 14:07 -0700
                          Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 22:06 +0000
                            Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 15:30 -0700
                              Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 22:43 +0000
                                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 16:07 -0700
                                  Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 23:17 +0000
                                    Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 16:42 -0700
                                      Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 00:58 +0000
                                        Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 18:22 -0700
                                          Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 01:37 +0000
                                            Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 18:44 -0700
                                              Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 01:53 +0000
                                                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 19:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 02:16 +0000
                                                    Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 19:30 -0700
                                                      Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 02:44 +0000
                                                        Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 19:46 -0700
                                                          Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 02:54 +0000
                                                            Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 20:00 -0700
                                                              Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 03:03 +0000
                                                                Our planet is greener now, vs. 100 years ago. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-29 04:44 -0700
                                                                  Re: Our planet is greener now, vs. 100 years ago. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 05:13 -0700
                                                                  Re: Our planet is greener now, vs. 100 years ago. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-29 19:21 -0400
                                                                    Re: Our planet is greener now, vs. 100 years ago. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 16:54 -0700
                        Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 17:11 -0400
                          Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 14:18 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-29 09:42 -0400
                  Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 14:21 +0000
                    Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 07:34 -0700
                    Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-29 10:43 -0400
                      Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 15:28 +0000
                        Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-29 13:13 -0400
                          Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 17:37 +0000
                            Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 10:44 -0700
                        Re: Possibly good? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-30 08:15 -0500
                          Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 06:36 -0700
                    Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-29 15:29 +0000
                      Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 15:43 +0000
                        Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-29 16:05 +0000
                          Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 16:44 +0000
                            Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-29 17:40 +0000
                              Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 17:58 +0000
                                Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-29 19:24 +0000
                                  Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 12:43 -0700
                                    Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 20:26 +0000
                                      Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 13:46 -0700
                                  Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 20:24 +0000
                                Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 14:05 -0700
                      Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 09:23 -0700
              Re: Possibly good? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 12:27 -0400
            Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 17:24 +0000
              Re: Possibly good? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 13:44 -0400
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 10:54 -0700
              Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 10:56 -0700
              Re: Possibly good? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-04-28 21:01 +0200
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 12:59 -0700
                  Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 20:51 +0000
                    Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 13:57 -0700
                      Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 21:04 +0000
                        Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 17:13 -0400
                          Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 14:17 -0700
                        Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 03:37 +0000
                          Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-30 20:41 -0700
                          Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 01:21 -0700
                    Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 17:09 -0400
                      Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 14:12 -0700
                    Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 03:36 +0000
                      Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-30 20:40 -0700
                      Re: Possibly good? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-05-01 09:26 +0200
                Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 23:13 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-30 08:19 -0500
                  Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-30 08:04 -0700
                  Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 03:38 +0000
                    Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-30 20:42 -0700
                    Re: Possibly good? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-05-01 09:24 +0200
                    Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-01 05:34 -0400
                      Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 02:53 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 03:34 +0000
                  Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-30 20:39 -0700
                  Re: Possibly good? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-05-01 09:20 +0200
                    Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-01 05:37 -0400
                    Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 21:23 +0000
                      Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 14:31 -0700
                      Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-03 19:33 -0400
                  Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-01 11:11 -0400
                    Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-01 15:17 +0000
                    Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-01 19:47 -0400
                      Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-02 07:53 -0400
            Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-29 09:40 -0400
              Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 07:03 -0700
              Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 10:26 -0700
              Re: Possibly good? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-30 08:03 -0500
                Re: Possibly good? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2018-04-30 14:14 +0100
                Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 03:44 +0000
                  Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-01 04:43 +0000
                    Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-01 05:28 +0000
                      Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-01 05:36 +0000
                        Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-01 06:09 +0000
                          Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-01 07:12 -0700
                            Re: Possibly good? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-05-01 14:52 +0000
                              Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-01 14:56 +0000
                                Re: Possibly good? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-05-01 15:01 +0000
                  Re: Possibly good? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-01 07:01 -0500
                    Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-01 11:21 -0400
                      Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-01 08:31 -0700
                      Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-01 19:41 -0400
                    Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-03 21:19 +0000
                      Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-03 14:27 -0700
        Re: Possibly good? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-27 18:29 -0700

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#449881

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-05-01 08:31 -0700
Message-ID<fkrfi1FbcirU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#449876
On 5/1/18 8:21 AM, Doomsdrzej wrote:
...>> Right-wingers claiming the the left lies are like Wintrolls claiming
>> that FOSS advocates lie.  Very ironic, to say the least.
> 
> Good point. Both sides lie and both are unreasonable in some way or
> another. It would be great to get along again but it seems that it's
> become impossible at the moment.
> 
This might be the most reasonable comment I have seen from you in a long 
time.

So how do we work toward "getting along"? Can we seek commonalities? 
Here are some of the things which are important to me:

* Equal rights (which is NOT the same as equal outcomes)
* A better tie between productivity and financial gain
* Reducing the number of abortions
* Keeping guns out of the hands of those who are likely risks
* Having fact / evidence based policies

How about you? Can you -- who disagrees with me so much -- show 
agreement with any of those points?

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#449959

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2018-05-01 19:41 -0400
Message-ID<pcauve$7al$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#449876
Doomsdrzej wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Tue, 01 May 2018 07:01:59 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>RonB wrote:
>>
>>>On 2018-04-30, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> a.m wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The same scientists who claimed that we'd all be underwater right now
>>>>>> are now admitting that they were wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> No scientist has ever said that.
>>>>
>>>> You gotta "love" right-wing propaganda, eh?
>>>>
>>>> So dishonest.
>>>
>>>Right.
>>
>>I know I am.  BTW, being "wrong" is not the same as lying, like so
>>many right-wingers do.  An example is above.  
>>
>>Right-wingers claiming the the left lies are like Wintrolls claiming
>>that FOSS advocates lie.  Very ironic, to say the least.
>
> Good point. Both sides lie and both are unreasonable in some way or
> another. It would be great to get along again but it seems that it's
> become impossible at the moment.

Yeah, unfortunately.  We humans developed intelligence to win arguments, not
to tease apart the truth.

-- 
Beware of a tall black man with one blond shoe.

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#450261

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2018-05-03 21:19 +0000
Message-ID<pcfud6$i3f$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#449837
On 2018-05-01, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> RonB wrote:
>
>>On 2018-04-30, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>> a.m wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The same scientists who claimed that we'd all be underwater right now
>>>>> are now admitting that they were wrong.
>>>>
>>>> No scientist has ever said that.
>>>
>>> You gotta "love" right-wing propaganda, eh?
>>>
>>> So dishonest.
>>
>>Right.
>
> I know I am.  BTW, being "wrong" is not the same as lying, like so
> many right-wingers do.  An example is above.  

Systematically overwriting temperatures for past records (in a lying attempt 
to show steadily rising temperatures instead of cycles) is DEFINITELY a form 
of lying. This is what the "man-made global warming" liars are doing in the 
United States.

> Right-wingers claiming the the left lies are like Wintrolls claiming
> that FOSS advocates lie.  Very ironic, to say the least.
>


-- 
The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.

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#450264

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-05-03 14:27 -0700
Message-ID<fl1d6kFlevuU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#450261
On 5/3/18 2:19 PM, RonB wrote:
> On 2018-05-01, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> RonB wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-04-30, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> a.m wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The same scientists who claimed that we'd all be underwater right now
>>>>>> are now admitting that they were wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> No scientist has ever said that.
>>>>
>>>> You gotta "love" right-wing propaganda, eh?
>>>>
>>>> So dishonest.
>>>
>>> Right.
>>
>> I know I am.  BTW, being "wrong" is not the same as lying, like so
>> many right-wingers do.  An example is above.
> 
> Systematically overwriting temperatures for past records (in a lying attempt
> to show steadily rising temperatures instead of cycles) is DEFINITELY a form
> of lying. This is what the "man-made global warming" liars are doing in the
> United States.

Nope. But, hey, keep denying science. I do not like it but I cannot stop 
you. And I do understand that denial of well known science is common 
with US conservatives.

If you were better educated and more able to understand the science you 
would likely become liberal.

>> Right-wingers claiming the the left lies are like Wintrolls claiming
>> that FOSS advocates lie.  Very ironic, to say the least.
>>
> 
> 


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#449326

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-04-27 18:29 -0700
Message-ID<eff90ca3-0b10-4dc1-8a57-439e7e95533f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#449311
On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 4:04:08 PM UTC-6, F. Russell wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:03:28 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> 
> 
> > 
> > In another month, the EU's General Data Protection Regulation becomes
> > enforceable.  It provides strict requirements 
> >
> 
> I don't know that law so I cannot comment.
> 
> But I do know that both European _and_ American politics is
> REACTIVE rather than PROACTIVE.  The politicians should see
> these things coming far in advance but they never do.  

Did you watch any of the hearings with Zuckerberg? If so,
you know why they don't.

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