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  This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-24 20:15 -0500
    Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-25 01:30 +0000
      Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-25 10:40 -0700
    Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-24 21:12 -0500
      Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-24 21:15 -0500
      Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-25 10:41 -0700
      Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-25 14:04 -0700
        Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-26 09:47 -0500
          Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-26 10:31 -0700
            Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 09:58 -0800
              Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 10:29 -0800
                Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 10:52 -0800
                  Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 10:59 -0800
                    Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-26 12:04 -0700
                      Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 11:10 -0800
                        Facts about Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 13:29 -0800
                          Re: Facts about Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 15:12 -0800
                    Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 11:07 -0800
                Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-26 11:32 -0700
                  Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-11-26 11:03 -0800
    Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-25 08:37 +0100
      Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-25 07:55 -0500
        The Experiment Has Been A Success ! Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... (was: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017.....) flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-25 09:35 -0500
          Re: The Experiment Has Been A Success ! Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-25 10:17 -0500
            Re: The Experiment Has Been A Success ! Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-25 16:42 +0100
              Re: The Experiment Has Been A Success ! Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-25 10:44 -0500
                Re: The Experiment Has Been A Success ! Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-25 18:33 +0100
                  Re: The Experiment Has Been A Success ! Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-25 10:47 -0700
                Re: The Experiment Has Been A Success ! Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-25 10:46 -0700
              Re: The Experiment Has Been A Success ! Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-25 12:21 -0500
              Re: The Experiment Has Been A Success ! Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-25 10:46 -0700
            Re: The Experiment Has Been A Success ! Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-25 10:45 -0700
          Re: The Experiment Has Been A Success ! Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... (was: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017.....) Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-25 10:43 -0700
      Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-25 10:43 -0700
      Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-28 07:19 -0600
        Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-28 09:07 -0700
      Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-28 10:32 -0600
        Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-28 09:46 -0700
          Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 09:04 -0800
    Rot in Hell, Maggot! John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-11-25 02:11 -0800
      Re: Rot in Hell, Maggot! Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 23:46 -0800
    Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-25 06:25 -0500
      Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-11-25 11:42 +0000
        Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-25 07:57 -0500
        Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-25 16:15 +0000
    Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-25 10:40 -0700
    Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-25 18:35 -0500
      Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-26 00:47 +0000
      Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-11-25 20:01 -0500
        Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-11-25 17:03 -0800
        Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 09:13 -0500
          Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-11-27 17:20 +0000
            Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 15:22 -0500
        Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-28 08:03 -0600
      Re: This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017..... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-25 21:48 -0700
    70 known posters are "plonked" ( AutoIgnored ). Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-11-25 16:38 -0800
      70 posters are "Dropped" ( AutoIgnored ). Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-11-25 17:27 -0800
        "Noisy Kids" are limited to their 5 most recent posts, last 24 hours. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-11-25 17:34 -0800
      Re: 70 known posters are "plonked" ( AutoIgnored ). Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-26 09:53 -0500
      Re: 70 known posters are "plonked" ( AutoIgnored ). DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 09:53 -0500
        Re: 70 known posters are "plonked" ( AutoIgnored ). Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-11-27 17:21 +0000
        MrDFS's hallucinations. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-11-27 15:10 -0800
          Re: MrDFS's hallucinations. flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:20 -0500
          Re: MrDFS's hallucinations. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-28 09:23 -0500
          Re: MrDFS's hallucinations. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-12-05 14:56 -0500
            She didn't pursue me, I didn't pursue her; we're happy. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-12-05 19:51 -0800
              Re: She didn't pursue me, I didn't pursue her; we're happy. flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-12-05 22:55 -0500
                What, exactly, do you think is "weird" about me ? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-12-05 20:39 -0800
                  Re: What, exactly, do you think is "weird" about me ? flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-12-05 23:43 -0500
                    I post whatever's on my mind, obviously. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-12-05 22:10 -0800
                    Re: What, exactly, do you think is "weird" about me ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-12-06 12:59 -0700
                Re: She didn't pursue me, I didn't pursue her; we're happy. Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-12-07 08:15 -0500
                  Re: She didn't pursue me, I didn't pursue her; we're happy. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-07 07:52 -0600
                    Re: She didn't pursue me, I didn't pursue her; we're happy. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-12-07 11:15 -0500
              Re: She didn't pursue me, I didn't pursue her; we're happy. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-12-05 23:27 -0800
                Re: I attract people like myself: male/macho. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 06:35 -0800
                  Re: I have no desire to hoard money and/or pay off a home loan. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 08:06 -0800
                    Re: She wanted more kids, I didn't. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 11:35 -0800
                      Re: She wanted more kids, I didn't. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 15:58 -0800
                      Re: We went our separate ways. flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-12-06 19:32 -0500
                    Re: She wanted more kids, I didn't. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 15:56 -0800
                      Re: Today's women can't be trusted. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 19:43 -0800
                      Re: Today's women can't be trusted. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-12-06 21:42 -0800
              Re: She didn't pursue me, I didn't pursue her; we're happy. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-12-06 08:57 -0800
              Re: She didn't pursue me, I didn't pursue her; we're happy. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-12-08 18:46 -0500
                "My" kids don't miss me at all, not one bit. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-12-08 18:24 -0800
                  Re: "My" kids don't miss me at all, not one bit. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-12-08 19:00 -0800
                    Re: Breeders earn more, I guess. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-12-08 20:50 -0800
        Re: 70 known posters are "plonked" ( AutoIgnored ). Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-11-28 06:51 +0000

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#382077 — This Group Is Dead.. A Proposal for 2017.....

This used to be a decent group but I think everyone can agree it's
literally on it's last legs ATM. Without getting into the weeds my
proposal is for everyone to perform a level set and start fresh in
2017.

So that means no referring back to 2004 where someone might have said
something stupid. No posting of past history. No "I was right and you
were wrong". No signatures attacking people or showing examples of
things that happened prior to 1/1/17. 

And for this to work, when down in the trenches and losing a debate,
no "remember you said this in the past" type statements.
So everything remains current as far as people in this group.

Additionally, kill files get killed.
We all start fresh.
And we all pledge to not bring up the past.

So for example, if say 7 posts something I take exception with I can
debate him on that but bringing up his inventor of the year claims is
off the table.
We start completely new.

This isn't going to be easy but if everyone participates and should a
person violate the rules another person, from either side of the
debate, needs to point it out in a civil manner. 

Like I've said, I've been gone for a while and frankly I'm amazed at
how low this group has sunk. And I freely admit that even recently I
have been part of the problem.

So in effect on 1/1/17 we all just met.
Nobody knows anybody and we start from square one.

So who is game?


-- 
flatfish+++
mariana trench

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#382078

flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote:
> This used to be a decent group but I think everyone can agree it's
> literally on it's last legs ATM. Without getting into the weeds my
> proposal is for everyone to perform a level set and start fresh in
> 2017.
> 
> So that means no referring back to 2004 where someone might have said
> something stupid. No posting of past history. No "I was right and you
> were wrong". No signatures attacking people or showing examples of
> things that happened prior to 1/1/17. 
> 
> And for this to work, when down in the trenches and losing a debate,
> no "remember you said this in the past" type statements.
> So everything remains current as far as people in this group.
> 
> Additionally, kill files get killed.
> We all start fresh.
> And we all pledge to not bring up the past.
> 
> So for example, if say 7 posts something I take exception with I can
> debate him on that but bringing up his inventor of the year claims is
> off the table.
> We start completely new.
> 
> This isn't going to be easy but if everyone participates and should a
> person violate the rules another person, from either side of the
> debate, needs to point it out in a civil manner. 
> 
> Like I've said, I've been gone for a while and frankly I'm amazed at
> how low this group has sunk. And I freely admit that even recently I
> have been part of the problem.
> 
> So in effect on 1/1/17 we all just met.
> Nobody knows anybody and we start from square one.
> 
> So who is game?
> 
 
Something to look forward to.

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#382128

On 11/24/16, 6:30 PM, in article fhjage802.gu4@rooftop.invalid, "deplorable
owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote:
>> This used to be a decent group but I think everyone can agree it's
>> literally on it's last legs ATM. Without getting into the weeds my
>> proposal is for everyone to perform a level set and start fresh in
>> 2017.
>> 
>> So that means no referring back to 2004 where someone might have said
>> something stupid. No posting of past history. No "I was right and you
>> were wrong". No signatures attacking people or showing examples of
>> things that happened prior to 1/1/17.
>> 
>> And for this to work, when down in the trenches and losing a debate,
>> no "remember you said this in the past" type statements.
>> So everything remains current as far as people in this group.
>> 
>> Additionally, kill files get killed.
>> We all start fresh.
>> And we all pledge to not bring up the past.
>> 
>> So for example, if say 7 posts something I take exception with I can
>> debate him on that but bringing up his inventor of the year claims is
>> off the table.
>> We start completely new.
>> 
>> This isn't going to be easy but if everyone participates and should a
>> person violate the rules another person, from either side of the
>> debate, needs to point it out in a civil manner.
>> 
>> Like I've said, I've been gone for a while and frankly I'm amazed at
>> how low this group has sunk. And I freely admit that even recently I
>> have been part of the problem.
>> 
>> So in effect on 1/1/17 we all just met.
>> Nobody knows anybody and we start from square one.
>> 
>> So who is game?
>> 
>  
> Something to look forward to.
> 

Yes. I am in. 


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#382091

On 2016-11-24 8:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> This used to be a decent group but I think everyone can agree it's
> literally on it's last legs ATM. Without getting into the weeds my
> proposal is for everyone to perform a level set and start fresh in
> 2017.
> 
> So that means no referring back to 2004 where someone might have said
> something stupid. No posting of past history. No "I was right and you
> were wrong". No signatures attacking people or showing examples of
> things that happened prior to 1/1/17. 
> 
> And for this to work, when down in the trenches and losing a debate,
> no "remember you said this in the past" type statements.
> So everything remains current as far as people in this group.
> 
> Additionally, kill files get killed.
> We all start fresh.
> And we all pledge to not bring up the past.
> 
> So for example, if say 7 posts something I take exception with I can
> debate him on that but bringing up his inventor of the year claims is
> off the table.
> We start completely new.
> 
> This isn't going to be easy but if everyone participates and should a
> person violate the rules another person, from either side of the
> debate, needs to point it out in a civil manner. 
> 
> Like I've said, I've been gone for a while and frankly I'm amazed at
> how low this group has sunk. And I freely admit that even recently I
> have been part of the problem.
> 
> So in effect on 1/1/17 we all just met.
> Nobody knows anybody and we start from square one.
> 
> So who is game?

I'm game. If I see Linux advocates agree to this idea, I'll remove the
killfiles and treat them with respect.


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#382093

On Thu, 24 Nov 2016 21:12:31 -0500, Silver Slimer wrote:

> On 2016-11-24 8:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>> This used to be a decent group but I think everyone can agree it's
>> literally on it's last legs ATM. Without getting into the weeds my
>> proposal is for everyone to perform a level set and start fresh in
>> 2017.
>> 
>> So that means no referring back to 2004 where someone might have said
>> something stupid. No posting of past history. No "I was right and you
>> were wrong". No signatures attacking people or showing examples of
>> things that happened prior to 1/1/17. 
>> 
>> And for this to work, when down in the trenches and losing a debate,
>> no "remember you said this in the past" type statements.
>> So everything remains current as far as people in this group.
>> 
>> Additionally, kill files get killed.
>> We all start fresh.
>> And we all pledge to not bring up the past.
>> 
>> So for example, if say 7 posts something I take exception with I can
>> debate him on that but bringing up his inventor of the year claims is
>> off the table.
>> We start completely new.
>> 
>> This isn't going to be easy but if everyone participates and should a
>> person violate the rules another person, from either side of the
>> debate, needs to point it out in a civil manner. 
>> 
>> Like I've said, I've been gone for a while and frankly I'm amazed at
>> how low this group has sunk. And I freely admit that even recently I
>> have been part of the problem.
>> 
>> So in effect on 1/1/17 we all just met.
>> Nobody knows anybody and we start from square one.
>> 
>> So who is game?
> 
> I'm game. If I see Linux advocates agree to this idea, I'll remove the
> killfiles and treat them with respect.

Good!
So I think we have deplorable Owl, you and me.
Good start.

-- 
flatfish+++
mariana trench

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#382129

On 11/24/16, 7:12 PM, in article o186k3$t5d$2@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<.m@nsn.s> wrote:

> On 2016-11-24 8:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>> This used to be a decent group but I think everyone can agree it's
>> literally on it's last legs ATM. Without getting into the weeds my
>> proposal is for everyone to perform a level set and start fresh in
>> 2017.
>> 
>> So that means no referring back to 2004 where someone might have said
>> something stupid. No posting of past history. No "I was right and you
>> were wrong". No signatures attacking people or showing examples of
>> things that happened prior to 1/1/17.
>> 
>> And for this to work, when down in the trenches and losing a debate,
>> no "remember you said this in the past" type statements.
>> So everything remains current as far as people in this group.
>> 
>> Additionally, kill files get killed.
>> We all start fresh.
>> And we all pledge to not bring up the past.
>> 
>> So for example, if say 7 posts something I take exception with I can
>> debate him on that but bringing up his inventor of the year claims is
>> off the table.
>> We start completely new.
>> 
>> This isn't going to be easy but if everyone participates and should a
>> person violate the rules another person, from either side of the
>> debate, needs to point it out in a civil manner.
>> 
>> Like I've said, I've been gone for a while and frankly I'm amazed at
>> how low this group has sunk. And I freely admit that even recently I
>> have been part of the problem.
>> 
>> So in effect on 1/1/17 we all just met.
>> Nobody knows anybody and we start from square one.
>> 
>> So who is game?
> 
> I'm game. If I see Linux advocates agree to this idea, I'll remove the
> killfiles and treat them with respect.
> 

Ditto here. I will give them ALL a fresh start. And you.

I might keep some "auto-read" settings but will not even talk about who.
Does not matter.


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#382154

On 11/24/16 19:12, Silver Slimer wrote:
> On 2016-11-24 8:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>> This used to be a decent group but I think everyone can agree it's
>> literally on it's last legs ATM. Without getting into the weeds my
>> proposal is for everyone to perform a level set and start fresh in
>> 2017.
>>
>> So that means no referring back to 2004 where someone might have said
>> something stupid. No posting of past history. No "I was right and you
>> were wrong". No signatures attacking people or showing examples of
>> things that happened prior to 1/1/17.
>>
>> And for this to work, when down in the trenches and losing a debate,
>> no "remember you said this in the past" type statements.
>> So everything remains current as far as people in this group.
>>
>> Additionally, kill files get killed.
>> We all start fresh.
>> And we all pledge to not bring up the past.
>>
>> So for example, if say 7 posts something I take exception with I can
>> debate him on that but bringing up his inventor of the year claims is
>> off the table.
>> We start completely new.
>>
>> This isn't going to be easy but if everyone participates and should a
>> person violate the rules another person, from either side of the
>> debate, needs to point it out in a civil manner.
>>
>> Like I've said, I've been gone for a while and frankly I'm amazed at
>> how low this group has sunk. And I freely admit that even recently I
>> have been part of the problem.
>>
>> So in effect on 1/1/17 we all just met.
>> Nobody knows anybody and we start from square one.
>>
>> So who is game?
>
> I'm game. If I see Linux advocates agree to this idea, I'll remove the
> killfiles and treat them with respect.
>
>
There is only one that can be a permanent resident, and I think you know 
who I mean.

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#382199

On 2016-11-25 4:04 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> On 11/24/16 19:12, Silver Slimer wrote:
>> On 2016-11-24 8:15 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>> This used to be a decent group but I think everyone can agree it's
>>> literally on it's last legs ATM. Without getting into the weeds my
>>> proposal is for everyone to perform a level set and start fresh in
>>> 2017.
>>>
>>> So that means no referring back to 2004 where someone might have said
>>> something stupid. No posting of past history. No "I was right and you
>>> were wrong". No signatures attacking people or showing examples of
>>> things that happened prior to 1/1/17.
>>>
>>> And for this to work, when down in the trenches and losing a debate,
>>> no "remember you said this in the past" type statements.
>>> So everything remains current as far as people in this group.
>>>
>>> Additionally, kill files get killed.
>>> We all start fresh.
>>> And we all pledge to not bring up the past.
>>>
>>> So for example, if say 7 posts something I take exception with I can
>>> debate him on that but bringing up his inventor of the year claims is
>>> off the table.
>>> We start completely new.
>>>
>>> This isn't going to be easy but if everyone participates and should a
>>> person violate the rules another person, from either side of the
>>> debate, needs to point it out in a civil manner.
>>>
>>> Like I've said, I've been gone for a while and frankly I'm amazed at
>>> how low this group has sunk. And I freely admit that even recently I
>>> have been part of the problem.
>>>
>>> So in effect on 1/1/17 we all just met.
>>> Nobody knows anybody and we start from square one.
>>>
>>> So who is game?
>>
>> I'm game. If I see Linux advocates agree to this idea, I'll remove the
>> killfiles and treat them with respect.
>>
>>
> There is only one that can be a permanent resident, and I think you know
> who I mean.

Yeah, there's no reason to make peace with that thing; he'd be back to
his old antics on day 2.


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#382204

On 11/26/16, 7:47 AM, in article o1c78a$u17$2@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<.m@nsn.s> wrote:

>>>> So in effect on 1/1/17 we all just met.
>>>> Nobody knows anybody and we start from square one.
>>>> 
>>>> So who is game?
>>> 
>>> I'm game. If I see Linux advocates agree to this idea, I'll remove the
>>> killfiles and treat them with respect.
>>> 
>>> 
>> There is only one that can be a permanent resident, and I think you know
>> who I mean.
> 
> Yeah, there's no reason to make peace with that thing; he'd be back to
> his old antics on day 2.

There is only one for me, as well. Does not matter whom. Other than that one
person EVERYONE gets a new start in 2017.


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#382206

On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 10:31:27 AM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> On 11/26/16, 7:47 AM, in article o1c78a$u17$2@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
> <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
> 
> >>>> So in effect on 1/1/17 we all just met.
> >>>> Nobody knows anybody and we start from square one.
> >>>> 
> >>>> So who is game?
> >>> 
> >>> I'm game. If I see Linux advocates agree to this idea, I'll remove the
> >>> killfiles and treat them with respect.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> There is only one that can be a permanent resident, and I think you know
> >> who I mean.
> > 
> > Yeah, there's no reason to make peace with that thing; he'd be back to
> > his old antics on day 2.
> 
> There is only one for me, as well. Does not matter whom. Other than that one
> person EVERYONE gets a new start in 2017.

LOL! Earlier you said "all", now you're saying something else. Thanks for the admission that you lied earlier.

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#382209

On Saturday, 26 November 2016 10:58:53 UTC-7, Steve Carroll  wrote:
> On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 10:31:27 AM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> > On 11/26/16, 7:47 AM, in article o1c78a$u17$2@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
> > <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
> > 
> > >>>> So in effect on 1/1/17 we all just met.
> > >>>> Nobody knows anybody and we start from square one.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> So who is game?
> > >>> 
> > >>> I'm game. If I see Linux advocates agree to this idea, I'll remove the
> > >>> killfiles and treat them with respect.
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >> There is only one that can be a permanent resident, and I think you know
> > >> who I mean.
> > > 
> > > Yeah, there's no reason to make peace with that thing; he'd be back to
> > > his old antics on day 2.
> > 
> > There is only one for me, as well. Does not matter whom. Other than that one
> > person EVERYONE gets a new start in 2017.
> 
> LOL! Earlier you said "all", now you're saying something else. Thanks for the admission that you lied earlier.

He clearly means you. Stop begging for his attention.

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#382212

On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 11:29:44 AM UTC-7, Snit, using his 'tmelmosfire' sock puppet, wrote:
> On Saturday, 26 November 2016 10:58:53 UTC-7, Steve Carroll  wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 10:31:27 AM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> > > On 11/26/16, 7:47 AM, in article o1c78a$u17$2@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
> > > <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
> > > 
> > > >>>> So in effect on 1/1/17 we all just met.
> > > >>>> Nobody knows anybody and we start from square one.
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>> So who is game?
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> I'm game. If I see Linux advocates agree to this idea, I'll remove the
> > > >>> killfiles and treat them with respect.
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> 
> > > >> There is only one that can be a permanent resident, and I think you know
> > > >> who I mean.
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah, there's no reason to make peace with that thing; he'd be back to
> > > > his old antics on day 2.
> > > 
> > > There is only one for me, as well. Does not matter whom. Other than that one
> > > person EVERYONE gets a new start in 2017.
> > 
> > LOL! Earlier you said "all", now you're saying something else. Thanks for the admission that you lied earlier.
> 
> He clearly means you. Stop begging for his attention.

All means all. Stop mixing meds.

By the way, I noticed you forged my ID awhile back in an effort to generate sales for your DW video series. Weird, but I guess when you're desperate stuff like this is to be expected from you. What I want to know is:

Are you going to have another "big project" this year based on the latest version of Dreamweaver? 

Or will you finally come to your senses and look at the ever diminishing stats for a change?

<https://trends.builtwith.com/framework>

Worse than the number itself, I'll bet a hefty chunk of that 2%, which were originally created using DW, are still 'active' but not updated or maintained using it. We know there is always a percentage of that going on for any tool but it's undoubtedly a much higher percentage when a tool is on its way out, like Dreamweaver obviously is. Your thoughts? 

My prediction: You will pivot from having a reasonable discussion about tech, instead opting for your usual BS because even you know you're backing a dead horse.

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#382215

On Saturday, 26 November 2016 11:52:50 UTC-7, Steve Carroll  wrote:
> > He clearly means you. Stop begging for his attention.
> 
> All means all. Stop mixing meds.

Snit already proved you a liar. You lie more in one day than Snit does in a year.

> By the way, I noticed you forged my ID awhile back 

Another lie by Steven Petruzzellis

> in an effort to generate sales for your DW video series.

I have no such series. Another lie by Steven Petruzzellis

> Weird, but I guess when you're desperate stuff like this is to be expected from you. What I want to know is:
> 
> Are you going to have another "big project" this year based on the latest version of Dreamweaver? 

I have never used Dreamweaver. You are lying.

> Or will you finally come to your senses and look at the ever diminishing stats for a change?
> 
> <https://trends.builtwith.com/framework>

I could not give a shit.

> Worse than the number itself, I'll bet a hefty chunk of that 2%, which were originally created using DW, are still 'active' but not updated or maintained using it. We know there is always a percentage of that going on for any tool but it's undoubtedly a much higher percentage when a tool is on its way out, like Dreamweaver obviously is. Your thoughts? 
> 
> My prediction: You will pivot from having a reasonable discussion about tech, instead opting for your usual BS because even you know you're backing a dead horse.

Your topic is Snit. Always.

Once again you lie.

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#382218

On 11/26/16, 11:59 AM, in article
853225ff-0674-4f9a-9ee6-030580862da0@googlegroups.com, "tmelmosfire"
<tmelmosfire@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, 26 November 2016 11:52:50 UTC-7, Steve Carroll  wrote:
>>> He clearly means you. Stop begging for his attention.
>> 
>> All means all. Stop mixing meds.
> 
> Snit already proved you a liar. You lie more in one day than Snit does in a
> year.

Again, this was the context:
    -----
    Ditto here. I will give them ALL a fresh start. And you.

    I might keep some "auto-read" settings but will not even talk
    about who. Does not matter.
    -----

So, yes, Carroll is lying.

>> By the way, I noticed you forged my ID awhile back
> 
> Another lie by Steven Petruzzellis

Carroll has been proved to use multiple accounts and lie about being hacked
and forged. He is not able to be honest.
 
>> in an effort to generate sales for your DW video series.
> 
> I have no such series. Another lie by Steven Petruzzellis

I do. To Carroll EVERYONE is me.

>> Weird, but I guess when you're desperate stuff like this is to be expected
>> from you. What I want to know is:
>> 
>> Are you going to have another "big project" this year based on the latest
>> version of Dreamweaver?
> 
> I have never used Dreamweaver. You are lying.
> 
>> Or will you finally come to your senses and look at the ever diminishing
>> stats for a change?
>> 
>> <https://trends.builtwith.com/framework>
> 
> I could not give a shit.
> 
>> Worse than the number itself, I'll bet a hefty chunk of that 2%, which were
>> originally created using DW, are still 'active' but not updated or maintained
>> using it. We know there is always a percentage of that going on for any tool
>> but it's undoubtedly a much higher percentage when a tool is on its way out,
>> like Dreamweaver obviously is. Your thoughts?
>> 
>> My prediction: You will pivot from having a reasonable discussion about tech,
>> instead opting for your usual BS because even you know you're backing a dead
>> horse.
> 
> Your topic is Snit. Always.
> 
> Once again you lie.

Right. He wants to talk about *me*. I did not say anything about
Dreamweaver... and it is not relevant to COLA.

But to answer his question anyway: I teach multiple software packages and
technologies largely based on what the schools I work for say they want me
to teach! For several I make my own materials -- used and accessed in
different ways based on the needs of the class and the rules of the school.

What schools? What software? None of Carroll's damned business. He already
stalks and contacts people at the schools he has tracked me down to... why
the hell would I tell him others?

All comes down to him wanting to shame me into helping me stalk him.

And, so, yes, he is on my auto-read list. And he will stay in 2017... where
he has been for years.

And, again, I have given him too much attention though third party posts...
enough. I am tired of him masturbating to my every word. It is gross.

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#382220

On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 12:04:42 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
(snip delusional drivel)

> And, so, yes, he is on my auto-read list. And he will stay in 2017... where
> he has been for years.

LOL! If it weren't for me you'd have no one to talk to on COLA expect for your puppets, which only exist so you can pretend you're not reading my posts and responding to me. Time to stop now...

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB-zLc80zO0>

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#382221 — Facts about Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll

Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll is a nearly 60 year old guy who is single, broke and has no skills. He blames Snit for his loss of his wife and girlfriend. Steven is jealous of what Snit has and in a narcissistic rage repeatedly works to take it away from him. For over 10 years he has failed at even this. Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll is an utter failure in life.

Of his online life Steven says

    I've been booted off by past providers before because people
    complain about me and all my bullshit. I don't want to lose my ISP
    *again* but I still need my army of sock puppets so I continually
    search usenet for whatever servers I haven't yet been booted
    from.
    
Some examples where Steven has been booted

X10 Hosting booted Steven for inappropriate activity
http://tinyurl.com/z92qmz4

Comcast booted Steven for inappropriate activity 
http://tinyurl.com/h75nh9l

FreeHostingEU booted Steven for copyright infringement http://devsite.eu.pn

AwardSpace (atwebpages.com) booted Steven for breaking terms of service
http://demsites.atwebpages.com/pokeman

Imgur took down an image for breaking terms of service http://imgur.com/yv2XppE

Had a GigaNews account which was removed for harassing Snit

Stopped posting from his fretwizzen Google account since shortly after I complained. Seems he lost that too.

His wife booted Steven to the curb for cheating on her


    
Only site Steven Petruzzellis has pointed to that is still available
http://www.oldneighborhoodrestaurant.net
http://tinyurl.com/zgby6mp

Made by the Go Daddy Website builder and is utter crap. Later he denied he said he was merely taking credit for someone else's work but Steven is the contact person http://tinyurl.com/hcw6dul http://tinyurl.com/hc7ee9q

He likely went to the Go Daddy Website Builder after he failed to get WordPress installed.

https://mu.wordpress.org/forums/topic/13879


This is why Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll attacks Snit. 


Steven Petruzzellis was is divorced because his wife caught him screwing another woman.

Snit is married and by all appearances happily so. 
He never complains about his wife in COLA.


Steven Petruzzellis is living on charity of a friend in a single room.

Snit does not live in a mansion or even a high end home but has a house and a yard.


Steven Petruzzellis has two kids but no respect. He repeatedly called Ryan his "little screwup" and refers to his son Steve as a "dick" and worse. He says at least one of them likely hacked his computer and is a "mentally deficient child." He mocks his possible future daughter-in-law as someone who takes too many selfies and is focused only on herself

Snit has two kids (or more) and never speaks poorly of them in public. 
No reason to think they are not a happy family.


Steven Petruzzellis claims to be a stay at home dad who pays thousands of dollars for day care. Steven has no job and no purpose in life. Steven has given up and now seeks a mother-figure to date. 

Snit has his own business doing technical work and also teaches. 
Snit offers a true contribution to society. 
Teachers are truly under appreciated.

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#382227 — Re: Facts about Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll

On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 2:29:31 PM UTC-7, Snit (aka Michael Glasser), using his 'tmelmosfire'  sock puppet, may be using beta blockers again:

"Beta blockers made me hallucinate - I had the physical sensation that my left eye was being sucked into my head.  I remember playing a game of Scrabble with a friend; while he was thinking I would run to the bathroom to look to see if my eye really had been sucked in." - Snit

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#382219

On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 11:59:18 AM UTC-7, Snit, using his 'tmelmosfire' sock puppet, lied:
> On Saturday, 26 November 2016 11:52:50 UTC-7, Steve Carroll  wrote:
> > > He clearly means you. Stop begging for his attention.
> > 
> > All means all. Stop mixing meds.
> 
> Snit already proved you a liar.

LOL! In your dreams, Snit

> > By the way, I noticed you forged my ID awhile back 
> 
> Another lie by Steven Petruzzellis

Prove it's a lie.

> > in an effort to generate sales for your DW video series.
> 
> I have no such series.

Of course not <eyeroll>.
 
> > Or will you finally come to your senses and look at the ever diminishing stats for a change?
> > 
> > <https://trends.builtwith.com/framework>
> 
> I could not give a shit.

LOL! You're pissed because you spent all that time on your "big project" and it tanked, as anyone with a brain could have predicted.

> > Worse than the number itself, I'll bet a hefty chunk of that 2%, which were originally created using DW, are still 'active' but not updated or maintained using it. We know there is always a percentage of that going on for any tool but it's undoubtedly a much higher percentage when a tool is on its way out, like Dreamweaver obviously is. Your thoughts? 
> > 
> > My prediction: You will pivot from having a reasonable discussion about tech, instead opting for your usual BS because even you know you're backing a dead horse.
> 
> Your topic is Snit.

A pivot, as expected ;)

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#382214

On 11/26/16, 11:29 AM, in article
d47c73b6-69d4-473a-be9b-52e6451a62a8@googlegroups.com, "tmelmosfire"
<tmelmosfire@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>> There is only one that can be a permanent resident, and I think you know
>>>>> who I mean.
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah, there's no reason to make peace with that thing; he'd be back to
>>>> his old antics on day 2.
>>> 
>>> There is only one for me, as well. Does not matter whom. Other than that one
>>> person EVERYONE gets a new start in 2017.
>> 
>> LOL! Earlier you said "all", now you're saying something else. Thanks for the
>> admission that you lied earlier.
> 
> He clearly means you. Stop begging for his attention.

Here is what I said:
    -----
    Ditto here. I will give them ALL a fresh start. And you.

    I might keep some "auto-read" settings but will not even talk
    about who. Does not matter.
    -----

Right from the start I made it clear I might keep one or more people set to
"auto-read" but it does not matter whom.

Carroll took ONE word from the first line there and took it out of context.
One word... no context.

Carroll lies more in a day than I lie in a year. He is unable to be honest.

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#382217

On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 11:53:38 AM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> On 11/26/16, 11:29 AM, in article
> d47c73b6-69d4-473a-be9b-52e6451a62a8@googlegroups.com, "tmelmosfire"
> <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >>>>> There is only one that can be a permanent resident, and I think you know
> >>>>> who I mean.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Yeah, there's no reason to make peace with that thing; he'd be back to
> >>>> his old antics on day 2.
> >>> 
> >>> There is only one for me, as well. Does not matter whom. Other than that one
> >>> person EVERYONE gets a new start in 2017.
> >> 
> >> LOL! Earlier you said "all", now you're saying something else. Thanks for the
> >> admission that you lied earlier.
> > 
> > He clearly means you. Stop begging for his attention.
> 
> Here is what I said:
>     -----
>     Ditto here. I will give them ALL


LOL! And you even capitalized "ALL".

> a fresh start. And you.
> 
>     I might keep some "auto-read" settings but will not even talk
>     about who. Does not matter.
>     -----
> 
> Right from the start I made it clear I might keep one or more people set to
> "auto-read"

You said you "will give" ALL posters a fresh start. You then talked about what you "might" do, which doesn't necessarily translate into undermining your first statement about what you "will" do. See how reality works?

> but it does not matter whom.
> 
> Carroll took ONE word from the first line there and took it out of context.

The context was "a fresh start". All means all in any context, your wishy washy followup and your med mixing can't change that.

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