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Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad

Started byDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
First post2016-01-23 15:40 -0500
Last post2016-01-27 20:46 -0500
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  Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-23 15:40 -0500
    Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 16:23 -0500
    Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-23 21:37 +0000
      Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 16:49 -0500
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-23 22:35 +0000
          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-23 20:56 -0500
      Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-23 20:25 -0500
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-01-24 01:47 +0000
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-24 03:30 +0100
          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-24 10:17 -0500
          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-24 10:56 -0700
          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 17:14 -0800
            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-27 02:21 +0100
              Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 21:57 -0800
                Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-27 05:49 -0500
                  Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-27 07:25 -0600
                    Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-27 20:35 -0500
                      Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 22:26 -0800
                        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-28 05:43 -0500
                          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-28 07:38 -0600
                            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-28 09:26 -0600
                            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-29 12:47 -0500
                              Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-29 18:18 +0000
                                Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-29 18:38 -0500
                                  Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-29 23:52 +0000
                                    Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-30 11:55 -0500
                            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2016-02-01 23:52 -0800
                          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-28 20:27 -0500
                          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-02-09 22:02 -0500
                        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-28 09:16 -0600
                          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-28 10:46 -0500
                          Re: Anti-Linux trolls: still spectacularly bad fuckwits William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-01-28 23:08 +0000
                  Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 13:26 -0700
                  Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Penny Tration <fedora_the_explora@asia.com> - 2016-01-28 02:13 +0000
                    Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-28 09:10 -0600
                      Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-28 10:40 -0500
                      Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-28 09:49 -0600
                        Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 12:13 -0700
                      Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Penny Tration <fedora_the_explora@asia.com> - 2016-01-28 17:25 +0000
                        Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-28 13:28 -0600
                          Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-28 14:22 -0600
                            Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad "1 eyed chicken" <chicken@gmail.com> - 2016-01-28 22:31 +0100
                          Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-01-28 23:07 +0000
                            Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-28 20:23 -0500
                            Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-29 06:46 -0600
                              Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-29 13:16 -0500
                          Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-28 20:21 -0500
                            Linux Liars On Patrol. Penny Tration <fedora_the_explora@asia.com> - 2016-01-29 20:07 +0000
                              Re: Linux Liars On Patrol. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-29 16:55 -0600
                                Re: Linux Liars On Patrol. Penny Tration <fedora_the_explora@asia.com> - 2016-01-29 23:13 +0000
                      Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-28 12:31 -0700
                        Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-28 14:49 -0500
                          Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-28 21:09 +0100
                            Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-28 14:17 -0600
                              Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-03-22 12:13 -0700
                            Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-28 20:01 -0500
                              Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-29 03:07 +0100
                                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-29 12:22 +0000
                                  Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-29 08:35 -0500
                                  Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-29 13:05 -0500
                                    Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-29 19:27 +0100
                                      Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-29 20:28 -0500
                                        Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 02:35 +0000
                                          Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad mike antipasto <pizzadude@mycomputerrox.org> - 2016-01-29 21:42 -0500
                                          Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-30 03:08 +0000
                                        Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-30 05:50 +0100
                                          Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-30 00:13 -0500
                                            Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-30 06:18 +0100
                                              Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-30 00:19 -0500
                                              Troll -- nasty, thick-headed know-nothings ranting about Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-30 08:12 -0500
                                                Re: Troll -- nasty, thick-headed know-nothings ranting about Linux chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 07:52 -0600
                                                Advantage:  Linux chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 10:35 -0600
                                              Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-01 07:24 -0600
                                        Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-30 00:07 -0500
                                    Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-29 18:52 +0000
                                      Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-30 08:54 -0500
                            Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-28 20:31 -0500
                              Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-28 20:44 -0500
                              Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-29 03:02 +0100
                                Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-29 07:46 -0600
                              Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-28 21:07 -0500
                              Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-29 07:00 -0600
                              Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-02-09 22:02 -0500
              Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-01-27 07:47 -0500
              Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 13:25 -0700
            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad kubuntuking@gmail.com - 2016-01-27 08:18 -0800
              Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-27 13:06 -0500
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-26 16:03 +0000
          Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-26 19:52 -0500
            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-27 00:56 +0000
              Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-27 20:49 -0500
            Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-27 13:28 -0700
    Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-24 10:53 -0700
    Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad kubuntuking@gmail.com - 2016-01-27 08:15 -0800
      Troll craphead: still spectacularly bad (and incompetent) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-27 12:48 -0500
        Re: Troll craphead: still spectacularly bad (and incompetent) and proud of it! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-01-27 12:35 -0600
          Re: Troll craphead: still spectacularly bad (and incompetent) and proud of it! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-27 20:37 -0500
        Re: Linux crapware: still spectacularly bad DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-27 20:46 -0500

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#342038 — Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2016-01-28 21:07 -0500
SubjectRe: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad
Message-ID<n8ehbs$7sf$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#342026
On 1/28/2016 8:31 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> What a farrago!


Creepy, if you were a prissy Brit instead of a prissy American you'd use 
the word 'ghastly' every day.

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#342052 — Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-01-29 07:00 -0600
SubjectRe: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad
Message-ID<pvnmab19a2u9n0n0fueaji594t7pr8t8uh@4ax.com>
In reply to#342026
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>Melzzzzz wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>> Like Windows 8-10?
>
>You mean any Windows, don't you? Like how Microsoft products like Office
>keep their "modern" look even when you change the desktop to the "Classic"
>theme?  How Windows changes its look and feel almost from version to
>version?  How keystrokes, menu entries, "charms", and hot spots come and go,
>apparently at the whim of either a marketer or some grunt programmer?

Why don't they just design it the best way, and then leave it alone?

Don't me there is no best way that everyone can agree on!

>And have you ever seen the user-interface and 10-pounds-of-bologna in a
>2-pound sack that is Visual Studio?  What a farrago!

"Minor annoyances at most", according to "Hadron".  "When it comes to
real work analysis, no one cares", he said.

Yet the mewling hypocrite constantly attacked GNU/Linux for being
inconsistent, even joining forces with the thing to advocate a single
"best UI".

-- 
"No one cares about ribbons etc when it comes to real work and data
analysis. Most of your gripes are minor annoyances at most."  -
Hadron "inconsistency is OK when Microsoft does it" Quark

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#343167 — Re: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2016-02-09 22:02 -0500
SubjectRe: Troll lies: still spectacularly bad
Message-ID<n9e937$td7$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#342026
On 1/28/2016 8:31 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Windows   Microsoft     Office
> Windows
> Visual Studio


"Marti, we don't care about Microsoft and its products here."
Chris "Little Beaver" Ahlstrom, Oct 2013




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#341870

FromSlimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid>
Date2016-01-27 07:47 -0500
Message-ID<n8ae3k$js5$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341836
On 2016-01-26 8:21 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:14:01 -0800 (PST)
> Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 11:30:04 AM UTC+9, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>> On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 20:25:41 -0500
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>   
>>>> On 1/23/2016 4:37 PM, owl wrote:  
>>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:    
>>>>>> I'm now using a new SSD and new nVidia GTX card
>>>>>>
>>>>>> installed Win7 with no issues whatsoever
>>>>>>
>>>>>> live-booted Fedora 23 - ran OK from live CD
>>>>>> did hard drive install, which said successful
>>>>>> rebooted
>>>>>> logged in
>>>>>> started loading for a few seconds then total system lock
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hard-boot, retry, same thing
>>>>>>    
>>>>>
>>>>> You fucked something up.  Try again or get somebody who knows
>>>>> what they're doing to help you.    
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With Fedora I used separate root (15GB), home (20GB), and swap
>>>> (5GB) partitions. The install went cleanly and said it was
>>>> successful. What could I have screwed up?
>>>>
>>>> My subsequent Manjaro install using the same partitions went fine.
>>>> It boots normally.  On that one, the LiveCD boot has a 'use
>>>> non-free drivers' option, which it probably installs for you.
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>
>>> Aha, fedora probably loads nouveau which doesnt work for maxwell
>>> cards.  
>>
>> Don't use new hardware for Linux, takes time till the unpaid
>> hobbyists figure out and reverse engineer the Windoze drivers and
>> even more time till the Linux Distro retailers steal it from them...
>> Sadly, the hardware manufactures are in bed with M$ only...
> 
> That is why I'll switch to AMD as they are open sourcing their
> GPU hardware...

That's great, except that AMD will probably not even exist in a few
years anymore. Their stock is close to becoming a penny stock and they
don't seem to be developing anything that is exciting the masses
anymore. I am still rooting for them but I'm not too confident.


-- 
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Conservative Party of Canada, Mozilla &
PETA supporter

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#341928

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-01-27 13:25 -0700
Message-ID<n8b8vf$tgp$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341836
On 01/26/16 18:21, Melzzzzz wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:14:01 -0800 (PST)
> Takuya Saitoh<taka0038@gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 11:30:04 AM UTC+9, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>> On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 20:25:41 -0500
>>> DFS<nospam@dfs.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/23/2016 4:37 PM, owl wrote:
>>>>> DFS<nospam@dfs.com>  wrote:
>>>>>> I'm now using a new SSD and new nVidia GTX card
>>>>>>
>>>>>> installed Win7 with no issues whatsoever
>>>>>>
>>>>>> live-booted Fedora 23 - ran OK from live CD
>>>>>> did hard drive install, which said successful
>>>>>> rebooted
>>>>>> logged in
>>>>>> started loading for a few seconds then total system lock
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hard-boot, retry, same thing
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You fucked something up.  Try again or get somebody who knows
>>>>> what they're doing to help you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With Fedora I used separate root (15GB), home (20GB), and swap
>>>> (5GB) partitions. The install went cleanly and said it was
>>>> successful. What could I have screwed up?
>>>>
>>>> My subsequent Manjaro install using the same partitions went fine.
>>>> It boots normally.  On that one, the LiveCD boot has a 'use
>>>> non-free drivers' option, which it probably installs for you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Aha, fedora probably loads nouveau which doesnt work for maxwell
>>> cards.
>>
>> Don't use new hardware for Linux, takes time till the unpaid
>> hobbyists figure out and reverse engineer the Windoze drivers and
>> even more time till the Linux Distro retailers steal it from them...
>> Sadly, the hardware manufactures are in bed with M$ only...
>
> That is why I'll switch to AMD as they are open sourcing their
> GPU hardware...
>
I downloaded their latest AMD APIs SDK.  Seems pretty decent for 
windows.  I believe they are also supporting linux now.

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#341890

Fromkubuntuking@gmail.com
Date2016-01-27 08:18 -0800
Message-ID<5757f399-2421-4d84-8c5c-4601eb4f44f4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#341833
On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 at 2:14:05 AM UTC+1, Takuya Saitoh wrote:
> On Sunday, January 24, 2016 at 11:30:04 AM UTC+9, Melzzzzz wrote:
> > On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 20:25:41 -0500
> > DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On 1/23/2016 4:37 PM, owl wrote:
> > > > DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:  
> > > >> I'm now using a new SSD and new nVidia GTX card
> > > >>
> > > >> installed Win7 with no issues whatsoever
> > > >>
> > > >> live-booted Fedora 23 - ran OK from live CD
> > > >> did hard drive install, which said successful
> > > >> rebooted
> > > >> logged in
> > > >> started loading for a few seconds then total system lock
> > > >>
> > > >> hard-boot, retry, same thing
> > > >>  
> > > >
> > > > You fucked something up.  Try again or get somebody who knows
> > > > what they're doing to help you.  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > With Fedora I used separate root (15GB), home (20GB), and swap (5GB) 
> > > partitions. The install went cleanly and said it was successful.
> > > What could I have screwed up?
> > > 
> > > My subsequent Manjaro install using the same partitions went fine.
> > > It boots normally.  On that one, the LiveCD boot has a 'use non-free 
> > > drivers' option, which it probably installs for you.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Aha, fedora probably loads nouveau which doesnt work for maxwell cards.
> 
> Don't use new hardware for Linux, takes time till the unpaid hobbyists figure out and reverse engineer the Windoze drivers and even more time till the Linux Distro retailers steal it from them...  

LOLZERS! They must give to the rocking cummunity! threadz 50x faster than MSmalware need the power of OPEN SORES! Creepee is a linux developer - maybe he can backport closed source CRAPZ to kubuntu?

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#341903

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2016-01-27 13:06 -0500
Message-ID<n8b0q4$li3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341890
<kubuntuking@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:5757f399-2421-4d84-8c5c-4601eb4f44f4@googlegroups.com...
> On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 at 2:14:05 AM UTC+1, Takuya Saitoh wrote:
>
> LOLZERS! They must give to the rocking cummunity!
> threadz 50x faster than MSmalware need the power of
> OPEN SORES! Creepee is a linux developer - maybe
> he can backport closed source CRAPZ to kubuntu?

<giggle> Oh kubuntu king, you're such a genius!

-- 
Yep, Windows bitrot is there, no matter how hard you fight it. Many of the 
young people I know (my nephews and their friends) basically get around it 
by reinstalling Windows about every month.

wRonG - The idiot gene runs strong in his family where people reinstall 
Windows every month.
Message-ID: <l7e8ft$lav$2@dont-email.me>

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#341756

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2016-01-26 16:03 +0000
Message-ID<fhdjjcoaef.j@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#341496
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 1/23/2016 4:37 PM, owl wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> I'm now using a new SSD and new nVidia GTX card
>>>
>>> installed Win7 with no issues whatsoever
>>>
>>> live-booted Fedora 23 - ran OK from live CD
>>> did hard drive install, which said successful
>>> rebooted
>>> logged in
>>> started loading for a few seconds then total system lock
>>>
>>> hard-boot, retry, same thing
>>>
>>
>> You fucked something up.  Try again or get somebody who knows
>> what they're doing to help you.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> With Fedora I used separate root (15GB), home (20GB), and swap (5GB) 
> partitions. The install went cleanly and said it was successful.  What 
> could I have screwed up?
> 

Who knows what you did.

> My subsequent Manjaro install using the same partitions went fine.  It 
> boots normally.


Wait, isn't Manjaro also "linux crapware"?

>  On that one, the LiveCD boot has a 'use non-free 
> drivers' option, which it probably installs for you.
> 

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#341820

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2016-01-26 19:52 -0500
Message-ID<n89475$58b$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341756
On 1/26/2016 11:03 AM, owl wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 1/23/2016 4:37 PM, owl wrote:
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>> I'm now using a new SSD and new nVidia GTX card
>>>>
>>>> installed Win7 with no issues whatsoever
>>>>
>>>> live-booted Fedora 23 - ran OK from live CD
>>>> did hard drive install, which said successful
>>>> rebooted
>>>> logged in
>>>> started loading for a few seconds then total system lock
>>>>
>>>> hard-boot, retry, same thing
>>>>
>>>
>>> You fucked something up.  Try again or get somebody who knows
>>> what they're doing to help you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> With Fedora I used separate root (15GB), home (20GB), and swap (5GB)
>> partitions. The install went cleanly and said it was successful.  What
>> could I have screwed up?
>>
>
> Who knows what you did.


I did a "successful" Fedora 23 install.  They didn't make any promises 
about it booting up... my bad.




>> My subsequent Manjaro install using the same partitions went fine.  It
>> boots normally.
>
>
> Wait, isn't Manjaro also "linux crapware"?

Yes.  It's spectacularly ugly on first install (15.12 w/ xfce), but at 
least it boots.  Last time I ran it hibernate wouldn't work at all.



>>   On that one, the LiveCD boot has a 'use non-free
>> drivers' option, which it probably installs for you.

I'm sensing a clue.

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#341826

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2016-01-27 00:56 +0000
Message-ID<fdaj93raf.ki@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#341820
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 1/26/2016 11:03 AM, owl wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 1/23/2016 4:37 PM, owl wrote:
>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>> I'm now using a new SSD and new nVidia GTX card
>>>>>
>>>>> installed Win7 with no issues whatsoever
>>>>>
>>>>> live-booted Fedora 23 - ran OK from live CD
>>>>> did hard drive install, which said successful
>>>>> rebooted
>>>>> logged in
>>>>> started loading for a few seconds then total system lock
>>>>>
>>>>> hard-boot, retry, same thing
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You fucked something up.  Try again or get somebody who knows
>>>> what they're doing to help you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With Fedora I used separate root (15GB), home (20GB), and swap (5GB)
>>> partitions. The install went cleanly and said it was successful.  What
>>> could I have screwed up?
>>>
>>
>> Who knows what you did.
> 
> 
> I did a "successful" Fedora 23 install.  They didn't make any promises 
> about it booting up... my bad.
> 
> 

You said you logged in.  That means it booted.

> 
> 
>>> My subsequent Manjaro install using the same partitions went fine.  It
>>> boots normally.
>>
>>
>> Wait, isn't Manjaro also "linux crapware"?
> 
> Yes.  It's spectacularly ugly on first install (15.12 w/ xfce), but at 
> least it boots.


Fedora booted.


>  Last time I ran it hibernate wouldn't work at all.
> 
> 
> 
>>>   On that one, the LiveCD boot has a 'use non-free
>>> drivers' option, which it probably installs for you.
> 
> I'm sensing a clue.
> 

Maybe you'll find one then.

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#341957

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2016-01-27 20:49 -0500
Message-ID<n8bruo$4t4$9@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341826
On 1/26/2016 7:56 PM, owl wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 1/26/2016 11:03 AM, owl wrote:
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>> On 1/23/2016 4:37 PM, owl wrote:
>>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I'm now using a new SSD and new nVidia GTX card
>>>>>>
>>>>>> installed Win7 with no issues whatsoever
>>>>>>
>>>>>> live-booted Fedora 23 - ran OK from live CD
>>>>>> did hard drive install, which said successful
>>>>>> rebooted
>>>>>> logged in
>>>>>> started loading for a few seconds then total system lock
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hard-boot, retry, same thing
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You fucked something up.  Try again or get somebody who knows
>>>>> what they're doing to help you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With Fedora I used separate root (15GB), home (20GB), and swap (5GB)
>>>> partitions. The install went cleanly and said it was successful.  What
>>>> could I have screwed up?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Who knows what you did.
>>
>>
>> I did a "successful" Fedora 23 install.  They didn't make any promises
>> about it booting up... my bad.
>>
>>
>
> You said you logged in.  That means it booted.
>
>>
>>
>>>> My subsequent Manjaro install using the same partitions went fine.  It
>>>> boots normally.
>>>
>>>
>>> Wait, isn't Manjaro also "linux crapware"?
>>
>> Yes.  It's spectacularly ugly on first install (15.12 w/ xfce), but at
>> least it boots.
>
>
> Fedora booted.
>
>>   Last time I ran it hibernate wouldn't work at all.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>    On that one, the LiveCD boot has a 'use non-free
>>>> drivers' option, which it probably installs for you.
>>
>> I'm sensing a clue.
>>
>
> Maybe you'll find one then.


creep

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#341930

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-01-27 13:28 -0700
Message-ID<n8b94f$tgp$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341820
On 01/26/16 17:52, DFS wrote:
> On 1/26/2016 11:03 AM, owl wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 1/23/2016 4:37 PM, owl wrote:
>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>> I'm now using a new SSD and new nVidia GTX card
>>>>>
>>>>> installed Win7 with no issues whatsoever
>>>>>
>>>>> live-booted Fedora 23 - ran OK from live CD
>>>>> did hard drive install, which said successful
>>>>> rebooted
>>>>> logged in
>>>>> started loading for a few seconds then total system lock
>>>>>
>>>>> hard-boot, retry, same thing
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You fucked something up. Try again or get somebody who knows
>>>> what they're doing to help you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With Fedora I used separate root (15GB), home (20GB), and swap (5GB)
>>> partitions. The install went cleanly and said it was successful. What
>>> could I have screwed up?
>>>
>>
>> Who knows what you did.
>
>
> I did a "successful" Fedora 23 install. They didn't make any promises
> about it booting up... my bad.
>
>

LOL!!!  That's happened to me before with an earlier Fedora linux distro.
Wouldn't boot up at all... just sat there like Dumb Willie.

>
>
>>> My subsequent Manjaro install using the same partitions went fine. It
>>> boots normally.
>>
>>
>> Wait, isn't Manjaro also "linux crapware"?
>
> Yes. It's spectacularly ugly on first install (15.12 w/ xfce), but at
> least it boots. Last time I ran it hibernate wouldn't work at all.
>
>
>
>>> On that one, the LiveCD boot has a 'use non-free
>>> drivers' option, which it probably installs for you.
>
> I'm sensing a clue.
>

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#341554

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-01-24 10:53 -0700
Message-ID<n832tp$a7b$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341469
On 01/23/16 13:40, DFS wrote:
> I'm now using a new SSD and new nVidia GTX card
>
> installed Win7 with no issues whatsoever
>
> live-booted Fedora 23 - ran OK from live CD
> did hard drive install, which said successful
> rebooted
> logged in
> started loading for a few seconds then total system lock
>
> hard-boot, retry, same thing
>
>
> MS is doomed.
> Linux won/is winning/will win.

LOL!!!  That's the linux hobbyware for you, developed by narcissistic 
hobbyists.

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#341889

Fromkubuntuking@gmail.com
Date2016-01-27 08:15 -0800
Message-ID<b1e08e56-ba0b-4b69-a789-644f4dfadfbb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#341469
On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 9:40:23 PM UTC+1, DFS wrote:
> I'm now using a new SSD and new nVidia GTX card
> 
> installed Win7 with no issues whatsoever
> 
> live-booted Fedora 23 - ran OK from live CD
> did hard drive install, which said successful
> rebooted
> logged in
> started loading for a few seconds then total system lock
> 
> hard-boot, retry, same thing
> 

hard boots or Hadron imbecile? Ask Creepee who runs LeeNax at work for his pee pee purchases! Kubuntu giveZ you rocking more more Linux POWER threadz!

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#341901 — Troll craphead: still spectacularly bad (and incompetent)

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2016-01-27 12:48 -0500
SubjectTroll craphead: still spectacularly bad (and incompetent)
Message-ID<n8avtb$g3k$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341889
kubuntuking@gmail.com wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 9:40:23 PM UTC+1, DFS wrote:
>>
>> <"I am incompetent">
>
>  <"I am an imbecile">

-- 
You will outgrow your usefulness.

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#341904 — Re: Troll craphead: still spectacularly bad (and incompetent) and proud of it!

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2016-01-27 12:35 -0600
SubjectRe: Troll craphead: still spectacularly bad (and incompetent) and proud of it!
Message-ID<6c3iab1rjdeq654eiaulcgql8af0f00p5a@4ax.com>
In reply to#341901
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>kubuntuking@gmail.com wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 9:40:23 PM UTC+1, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>> <"I am incompetent">
>>
>>  <"I am an imbecile">

-- 
'What should be noted is (Redhat's) contributions are small
considering how much money they make freeloading off the "community"
that did nearly all the development.'  -  DumFSck

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#341949 — Re: Troll craphead: still spectacularly bad (and incompetent) and proud of it!

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2016-01-27 20:37 -0500
SubjectRe: Troll craphead: still spectacularly bad (and incompetent) and proud of it!
Message-ID<n8br81$33e$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341904
On 1/27/2016 1:35 PM, shitv wrote:

> 'What should be noted is (Redhat's) contributions are small
> considering how much money they make freeloading off the "community"
> that did nearly all the development.'  -  DumFSck


Not only do they hugely freeload, the top 5 Red Hat "executives" take 
home millions each year.

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#341951

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2016-01-27 20:46 -0500
Message-ID<n8broo$4t4$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#341901
On 1/27/2016 12:48 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>> On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 9:40:23 PM UTC+1, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>> <"I am incompetent">


Don't take it so hard, Creepy.  It's not like I ragged on your favorite 
bit of hobbyware: Fluxbox.

Give us a screenshot of your desktop.  We need a laugh.




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