Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > comp.os.linux.advocacy > #683622 > unrolled thread

Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs

Started byCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
First post2025-01-10 12:37 -0500
Last post2025-01-16 11:35 -0500
Articles 20 on this page of 186 — 27 participants

Back to article view | Back to comp.os.linux.advocacy


Contents

  Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 12:37 -0500
    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-10 12:43 -0500
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 13:59 -0500
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 09:30 +0000
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 07:30 -0500
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-20 16:39 -0500
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-20 20:39 -0500
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-21 06:05 -0600
              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-21 08:49 -0500
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 20:14 +0000
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-10 16:35 -0500
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 09:31 +0000
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 12:15 +0000
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-12 23:20 +0000
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 12:45 +0000
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-13 22:50 -0500
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-21 22:43 +0000
    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 12:54 -0500
    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 09:27 +0000
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 04:32 -0500
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 07:38 -0500
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 07:28 -0500
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 08:38 +0000
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-12 09:36 -0500
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 12:40 +0000
              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 10:05 -0500
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 20:11 +0000
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 17:28 -0500
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 08:40 +0000
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-12 09:55 -0500
              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 12:44 +0000
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 08:39 +0000
    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-12 23:23 +0000
      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2025-01-13 21:25 +0000
        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 16:32 -0500
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 17:44 -0500
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 17:54 -0500
              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 18:10 -0500
                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 18:25 -0500
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-13 17:52 -0600
                    Cult of Unix (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 00:30 +0000
                      Re: Cult of Unix Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-14 20:05 -0600
                        Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 03:16 -0500
                        Re: Cult of Unix vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 09:02 +0000
                        Re: Cult of Unix ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 11:10 -0700
                        Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-16 05:03 +0000
                          Re: 🏳️‍🌈Cult of Unix🏳️‍🌈 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1>  - 2025-01-16 05:28 +0000
                          Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 10:34 -0500
                            Re: Cult of Unix vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-16 16:04 +0000
                              Re: Cult of Unix Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-16 14:48 -0600
                                Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 18:06 -0500
                                  Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 02:49 +0000
                                    Re: Cult of Unix vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-17 03:51 +0000
                                      Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 02:10 -0500
                                        Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 23:55 +0000
                                          Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 20:53 -0500
                                            Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-19 00:54 +0000
                                      Re: Cult of Unix Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-17 16:46 +0000
                                        Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 23:56 +0000
                                          Re: Cult of Unix Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-17 20:54 -0500
                                            Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-19 00:55 +0000
                                              Re: Cult of Unix Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 20:01 -0500
                            Re: Cult of Unix Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 00:10 +0000
                      Re: 🏳️‍🌈Cult of Unix (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs)🏳️‍🌈 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1>  - 2025-01-15 05:24 +0000
                        Setting up old-style backup on Windows 11 (was: Re: Cult of Unix) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 08:38 +0000
                          Re: 🏳️‍🌈Setting up old-style backup on Windows 11 (was: Re: Cult of Unix)🏳️‍🌈 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 <root@127.0.0.1>  - 2025-01-15 17:22 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 21:44 -0500
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Manu Raju <MR@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-14 03:09 +0000
                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-15 06:56 +0000
                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 02:52 -0500
                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 00:11 +0000
                          Defragging (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-17 03:45 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-17 23:10 +0000
                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 10:40 -0500
                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 23:14 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 20:15 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-01-16 01:29 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 05:05 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-17 08:53 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 10:43 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-17 11:07 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-17 17:19 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-17 18:17 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-20 16:40 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-20 20:41 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-17 17:18 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-17 18:15 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 13:07 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-18 16:08 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:22 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-18 23:30 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 19:04 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-19 04:40 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-18 18:50 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 19:08 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-18 21:10 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-18 22:14 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 11:38 -0500
                                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-19 12:23 -0500
                                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 12:32 -0500
                                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-19 15:54 -0500
                                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:59 -0500
                                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-19 18:44 -0500
                                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 20:28 -0500
                                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-19 21:10 -0500
                                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:22 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 07:22 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-19 06:03 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 03:53 +0000
                                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 23:08 -0500
                                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-20 08:45 -0500
                                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 06:40 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-19 19:36 +0000
                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 03:56 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-19 08:53 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-19 06:09 -0500
                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-14 12:46 -0500
                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-15 13:51 +0100
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 09:58 -0500
                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-15 16:20 +0100
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-15 23:20 +0000
                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-16 15:36 +0100
                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 00:12 +0000
                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 18:09 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-16 15:47 +0100
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-14 05:48 +0000
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-13 16:48 -0600
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-13 23:54 +0000
          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 11:33 +0000
            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 10:46 -0500
              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-15 11:33 -0500
                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-15 17:02 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-15 12:33 -0500
                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-16 05:40 +0000
                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 06:27 -0500
                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-27 22:49 +0000
                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 14:32 -0500
                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-15 15:52 -0500
                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-15 20:34 -0500
                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 00:41 -0600
                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 06:42 -0500
                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 14:40 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 16:34 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 16:56 -0600
                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 22:40 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 02:04 -0600
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-17 07:34 -0600
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs roger <rduffy@hotmail.com.invalid - 2025-01-17 14:01 -0600
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-17 17:15 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-17 15:57 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 16:50 -0600
                                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-17 21:52 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-16 21:38 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-16 18:33 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 15:44 -0600
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 15:51 -0600
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 16:11 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-17 13:03 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 16:00 -0600
                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-17 23:15 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 18:10 -0600
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 18:13 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-30 13:35 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-30 17:32 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-02-01 00:20 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-01 06:58 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-01 07:18 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-02-01 06:31 -0600
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-01 12:39 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-02-02 16:00 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-02-02 15:59 -0500
                      Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 06:22 -0500
                        Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 12:10 -0500
                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-16 12:28 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-17 00:27 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-16 23:47 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-20 16:41 -0500
                            Gaming Laptops (was: Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-01 12:58 +0000
                              Re: Gaming Laptops Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-01 19:22 -0500
                                Re: Gaming Laptops chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-02-02 08:05 -0600
                                  Re: Gaming Laptops candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-03 20:10 +0000
                                    Re: Gaming Laptops Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-03 19:24 -0500
                                      Re: Gaming Laptops pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-02-04 00:45 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-01-16 18:45 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-16 16:05 -0500
                    Re: Microsoft to force new Outlook on Windows 10 PCs Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 11:35 -0500

Page 5 of 10 — ← Prev page 1 … 3 4 [5] 6 7 … 10  Next page →


#684214

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-01-17 11:07 -0500
Message-ID<afviP.46705$nlJ1.34386@fx41.iad>
In reply to#684213
On 1/17/25 10:43 AM, Joel wrote:
> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> 
>>> I would only dual-boot with a second Windows SSD, but I reject the Win
>>> platform as a dead end.
>>
>> I have to admit that once you get everything you use working in Linux,
>> the idea of going back to Windows makes you feel sick to your stomach.
>> It's hard not to love the stellar responsiveness of your computer under
>> Linux. No matter how fast your computer is, it always feel like it's
>> lagging in Windows. It's not even an fTPM issue; it just feels like the
>> system is waiting on something else before it responds to your action.
> 
> Linux doesn't take you for granted.

That's what I've begun to understand. I'm seeing that if there is a 
significant problem in Linux and there is a reason to fix it, they will. 
I emphasize the adjective _significant_ there, not the ridiculous 
"issues" DFS has with LibreOffice Calc. My experience with the fTPM 
issue, and the constant reminders that Secure Boot can routinely be 
exploited through Windows, makes it clear that both the manufacturers 
and Microsoft aren't as concerned with security as they should be. For 
its part, Apple has demonstrated that its commitment is to diversity, 
equity and inclusion over innovation and security, so I can easily 
disregard them as a potential source of my electronics.

It truly looks like I'll be going with System76 and Manjaro going forward.

-- 
CrudeSausage
Gab: @CrudeSausage
Telegram: @CrudeSausage
Unapologetic paleoconservative
KDE supporting member
ASUS Zephyrus GA401QM on Manjaro

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#684231

FromDFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca>
Date2025-01-17 17:19 -0500
Message-ID<vmel1r$8i60$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684214
On 1/17/2025 11:07 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:

> I'm seeing that if there is a 
> significant problem in Linux and there is a reason to fix it, they will. 
> I emphasize the adjective _significant_ there, not the ridiculous 
> "issues" DFS has with LibreOffice Calc. 


Which ridiculous issues are you referring to?

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#684241

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-01-17 18:17 -0500
Message-ID<PxBiP.872812$DYF8.294102@fx14.iad>
In reply to#684231
On 1/17/25 5:19 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 1/17/2025 11:07 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> I'm seeing that if there is a significant problem in Linux and there 
>> is a reason to fix it, they will. I emphasize the adjective 
>> _significant_ there, not the ridiculous "issues" DFS has with 
>> LibreOffice Calc. 
> 
> Which ridiculous issues are you referring to?

I didn't pay enough attention to your constant complaints about 
LibreOffice Calc and database software to record them.

-- 
CrudeSausage
Gab: @CrudeSausage
Telegram: @CrudeSausage
Unapologetic paleoconservative
KDE supporting member
ASUS Zephyrus GA401QM on Manjaro

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#684392

FromDFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca>
Date2025-01-20 16:40 -0500
Message-ID<vmmfsk$3et6v$7@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684241
On 1/17/2025 6:17 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> On 1/17/25 5:19 PM, DFS wrote:
>> On 1/17/2025 11:07 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>
>>> I'm seeing that if there is a significant problem in Linux and there 
>>> is a reason to fix it, they will. I emphasize the adjective 
>>> _significant_ there, not the ridiculous "issues" DFS has with 
>>> LibreOffice Calc. 
>>
>> Which ridiculous issues are you referring to?
> 
> I didn't pay enough attention to your constant complaints about 
> LibreOffice Calc and database software to record them.


I haven't complained specifically about Calc too much.  It's barely 
acceptable, if you can't afford $25 for a recent version of MS Office/Excel.

But LO Base should've been removed from LibreOffice years ago.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#684400

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-01-20 20:41 -0500
Message-ID<FXCjP.72722$oCrf.15069@fx33.iad>
In reply to#684392
On 1/20/25 4:40 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 1/17/2025 6:17 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> On 1/17/25 5:19 PM, DFS wrote:
>>> On 1/17/2025 11:07 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm seeing that if there is a significant problem in Linux and there 
>>>> is a reason to fix it, they will. I emphasize the adjective 
>>>> _significant_ there, not the ridiculous "issues" DFS has with 
>>>> LibreOffice Calc. 
>>>
>>> Which ridiculous issues are you referring to?
>>
>> I didn't pay enough attention to your constant complaints about 
>> LibreOffice Calc and database software to record them.
> 
> 
> I haven't complained specifically about Calc too much.  It's barely 
> acceptable, if you can't afford $25 for a recent version of MS Office/ 
> Excel.
> 
> But LO Base should've been removed from LibreOffice years ago.

It exists in case someone needs it, so there is no point in removing it. 
Also, why would you even need to pay for a Microsoft Office license if 
LibreOffice does everything you need anyway? I'm sure Microsoft's suite 
does a better job at many things, but the corporation is selling the 
program and the clients want something stellar for the money they paid 
for it. LibreOffice is _given_ to you. It's not looking for money. It's 
not trying to compete. Yet, it manages to do so anyway and quite well.

-- 
CrudeSausage
Gab: @CrudeSausage
Telegram: @CrudeSausage
Unapologetic paleoconservative
KDE supporting member
ASUS Zephyrus GA401QM on Manjaro

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#684230

FromDFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca>
Date2025-01-17 17:18 -0500
Message-ID<vmekv4$8i60$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684202
On 1/17/2025 5:05 AM, Joel wrote:


> I reject the Win platform as a dead end.


Windows will long outlive you and all the other doomsday cola advocates.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#684239

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-01-17 18:15 -0500
Message-ID<5wBiP.872811$DYF8.681972@fx14.iad>
In reply to#684230
On 1/17/25 5:18 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 1/17/2025 5:05 AM, Joel wrote:
> 
> 
>> I reject the Win platform as a dead end.
> 
> 
> Windows will long outlive you and all the other doomsday cola advocates.

I wouldn't be so certain. People are becoming increasingly aware to the 
inevitable problems Windows forces them to have like the fTPM stuttering 
(which includes spoiled gaming and corrupted encoding of videos) and the 
numerous security exploits which often result in identity or data theft. 
The alternative is no longer to buy a processor from the other company 
or a computer from the other manufacturer; the whole platform needs to 
be rebuilt. The problem is that you can't ask Microsoft to do it because 
their incompetence is what created the issues in the first place.

-- 
CrudeSausage
Gab: @CrudeSausage
Telegram: @CrudeSausage
Unapologetic paleoconservative
KDE supporting member
ASUS Zephyrus GA401QM on Manjaro

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#684281

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-18 13:07 -0500
Message-ID<narnoj9teonmaou3hd93igh5u6lm9nj6t1@4ax.com>
In reply to#684230
DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:

>> I reject the Win platform as a dead end.
>
>Windows will long outlive you and all the other doomsday cola advocates.


Explain how to keep up with demands on hardware without replacing
motherboard every three years.  "Don't upgrade to Win12" only supports
my point.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#684292

FromDFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca>
Date2025-01-18 16:08 -0500
Message-ID<vmh57p$13tfu$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684281
On 1/18/2025 1:07 PM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
> 
>>> I reject the Win platform as a dead end.
>>
>> Windows will long outlive you and all the other doomsday cola advocates.
> 
> 
> Explain how to keep up with demands on hardware without replacing
> motherboard every three years.  "Don't upgrade to Win12" only supports
> my point.


Total absurd bullshit.

You have NEVER needed to upgrade/replace your mobo every 3 years for a 
new version of Windows.

As I've requested several times, make sure to keep your current hardware 
around so I can rub your Linuxy face in it when Win13 installs and runs 
just fine on it.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#684299

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-18 17:22 -0500
Message-ID<9aaoojdk0f74cvc8jrt1ehadjmk05jphko@4ax.com>
In reply to#684292
DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:

>>>> I reject the Win platform as a dead end.
>>>
>>> Windows will long outlive you and all the other doomsday cola advocates.
>> 
>> Explain how to keep up with demands on hardware without replacing
>> motherboard every three years.  "Don't upgrade to Win12" only supports
>> my point.
>
>Total absurd bullshit.
>
>You have NEVER needed to upgrade/replace your mobo every 3 years for a 
>new version of Windows.
>
>As I've requested several times, make sure to keep your current hardware 
>around so I can rub your Linuxy face in it when Win13 installs and runs 
>just fine on it.


And yet I already felt advancing 11 wasn't great.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#684307

FromStéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr>
Date2025-01-18 23:30 +0000
Message-ID<678c39b3$0$16848$426a74cc@news.free.fr>
In reply to#684299
Le 18-01-2025, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> a écrit :
> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>
>>>>> I reject the Win platform as a dead end.
>>>>
>>>> Windows will long outlive you and all the other doomsday cola advocates.
>>> 
>>> Explain how to keep up with demands on hardware without replacing
>>> motherboard every three years.  "Don't upgrade to Win12" only supports
>>> my point.
>>
>>Total absurd bullshit.
>>
>>You have NEVER needed to upgrade/replace your mobo every 3 years for a 
>>new version of Windows.
>>
>>As I've requested several times, make sure to keep your current hardware 
>>around so I can rub your Linuxy face in it when Win13 installs and runs 
>>just fine on it.
>
> And yet I already felt advancing 11 wasn't great.

It wasn't his point. He wasn't saying if you would be able to run it or
not. Which isn't the same. And for that, I'm not that sure but I can't
read the future. What I know is when Vista was out, they claimed that
they were doing 3D when the only thing that was in 3D was the [Alt][TAB]
combination. When my computer was to old to run Vista, it was running
Ubuntu with compiz smoothly, which was real 3D. Then, when Windows 10
was out, you needed to have a recent computer, not because it needed
power, but because it needed secure boot which didn't exist in old
computers. And I see a lot of old computers on which Linux was able to
give a second life when Windows was too slow.

So, maybe your actual computer will be able to run the last version of
Windows in twenty years. I don't know, I don't even care, but history
proves otherwise.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#684310

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-18 19:04 -0500
Message-ID<v5goojll14tv6nd7ts8kp970etmsre5gb0@4ax.com>
In reply to#684307
Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
>Le 18-01-2025, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>>
>>>As I've requested several times, make sure to keep your [JWC's] current [Win11-era] hardware 
>>>around so I can rub your Linuxy face in it when Win13 installs and runs 
>>>just fine on it.
>>
>> And yet I already felt advancing 11 wasn't great.
>
>It wasn't his point. He wasn't saying if you would be able to run it or
>not. Which isn't the same. And for that, I'm not that sure but I can't
>read the future. What I know is when Vista was out, they claimed that
>they were doing 3D when the only thing that was in 3D was the [Alt][TAB]
>combination. When my computer was to old to run Vista, it was running
>Ubuntu with compiz smoothly, which was real 3D. Then, when Windows 10
>was out, you needed to have a recent computer, not because it needed
>power, but because it needed secure boot which didn't exist in old
>computers. And I see a lot of old computers on which Linux was able to
>give a second life when Windows was too slow.
>
>So, maybe your actual computer will be able to run the last version of
>Windows in twenty years. I don't know, I don't even care, but history
>proves otherwise.


Check this deal on a laptop:

https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-V15-G2-Dual-core-Processor/dp/B0CNKZ7CSY?th=1


But note, it boots Win11 as shipped.  Needs Linux to be self-
installed, but then, boom.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#684324

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2025-01-19 04:40 +0000
Message-ID<lv3e1qFu46lU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#684310
On Sat, 18 Jan 2025 19:04:00 -0500, Joel wrote:

> Check this deal on a laptop:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-V15-G2-Dual-core-Processor/dp/B0CNKZ7CSY?
th=1

I thought Intel dropped the Celery or were calling it something else.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#684309

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-01-18 18:50 -0500
Message-ID<o7XiP.41806$h3%7.23082@fx02.iad>
In reply to#684292
On 1/18/25 4:08 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 1/18/2025 1:07 PM, Joel wrote:
>> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>>
>>>> I reject the Win platform as a dead end.
>>>
>>> Windows will long outlive you and all the other doomsday cola advocates.
>>
>>
>> Explain how to keep up with demands on hardware without replacing
>> motherboard every three years.  "Don't upgrade to Win12" only supports
>> my point.
> 
> 
> Total absurd bullshit.
> 
> You have NEVER needed to upgrade/replace your mobo every 3 years for a 
> new version of Windows.
> 
> As I've requested several times, make sure to keep your current hardware 
> around so I can rub your Linuxy face in it when Win13 installs and runs 
> just fine on it.

I have to agree with you here. There was pressure to buy new hardware 
every two or three years back in the 90s, but hardware nowadays easily 
goes a decade with the original operating system on it. However, Windows 
in that time will become unbearably slow for most users since they 
usually have no idea how to maintain it. Linux, for its part, will be 
just as fast ten years down the line as it was on day one.

-- 
CrudeSausage
Gab: @CrudeSausage
Telegram: @CrudeSausage
Unapologetic paleoconservative
KDE supporting member
ASUS Zephyrus GA401QM on Manjaro

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#684311

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-18 19:08 -0500
Message-ID<6ggoojp323mcc2n812l0rl73cvda1ej2ds@4ax.com>
In reply to#684309
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>On 1/18/25 4:08 PM, DFS wrote:
>> On 1/18/2025 1:07 PM, Joel wrote:
>>> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I reject the Win platform as a dead end.
>>>>
>>>> Windows will long outlive you and all the other doomsday cola advocates.
>>>
>>> Explain how to keep up with demands on hardware without replacing
>>> motherboard every three years.  "Don't upgrade to Win12" only supports
>>> my point.
>> 
>> Total absurd bullshit.
>> 
>> You have NEVER needed to upgrade/replace your mobo every 3 years for a 
>> new version of Windows.
>> 
>> As I've requested several times, make sure to keep your current hardware 
>> around so I can rub your Linuxy face in it when Win13 installs and runs 
>> just fine on it.
>
>I have to agree with you here. There was pressure to buy new hardware 
>every two or three years back in the 90s, but hardware nowadays easily 
>goes a decade with the original operating system on it. However, Windows 
>in that time will become unbearably slow for most users since they 
>usually have no idea how to maintain it. Linux, for its part, will be 
>just as fast ten years down the line as it was on day one.


For you to be right for my machine, Win10 would need support till
2031, it's ending this year with an optional paid extension.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#684320

FromCrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
Date2025-01-18 21:10 -0500
Message-ID<IaZiP.1659101$bYV2.821133@fx17.iad>
In reply to#684311
On 1/18/25 7:08 PM, Joel wrote:
> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 1/18/25 4:08 PM, DFS wrote:
>>> On 1/18/2025 1:07 PM, Joel wrote:
>>>> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I reject the Win platform as a dead end.
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows will long outlive you and all the other doomsday cola advocates.
>>>>
>>>> Explain how to keep up with demands on hardware without replacing
>>>> motherboard every three years.  "Don't upgrade to Win12" only supports
>>>> my point.
>>>
>>> Total absurd bullshit.
>>>
>>> You have NEVER needed to upgrade/replace your mobo every 3 years for a
>>> new version of Windows.
>>>
>>> As I've requested several times, make sure to keep your current hardware
>>> around so I can rub your Linuxy face in it when Win13 installs and runs
>>> just fine on it.
>>
>> I have to agree with you here. There was pressure to buy new hardware
>> every two or three years back in the 90s, but hardware nowadays easily
>> goes a decade with the original operating system on it. However, Windows
>> in that time will become unbearably slow for most users since they
>> usually have no idea how to maintain it. Linux, for its part, will be
>> just as fast ten years down the line as it was on day one.
> 
> 
> For you to be right for my machine, Win10 would need support till
> 2031, it's ending this year with an optional paid extension.

It will install Windows 11, so I am right. It won't be a fun experience, 
but it will work anyway. Still, you're better off with Linux.

-- 
CrudeSausage
Gab: @CrudeSausage
Telegram: @CrudeSausage
Unapologetic paleoconservative
KDE supporting member
ASUS Zephyrus GA401QM on Manjaro

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#684322

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2025-01-18 22:14 -0500
Message-ID<vmhqmi$1b98f$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684311
On 1/18/25 7:08 PM, Joel wrote:
> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 1/18/25 4:08 PM, DFS wrote:
>>> On 1/18/2025 1:07 PM, Joel wrote:
>>>> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> I reject the Win platform as a dead end.
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows will long outlive you and all the other doomsday cola advocates.
>>>>
>>>> Explain how to keep up with demands on hardware without replacing
>>>> motherboard every three years.  "Don't upgrade to Win12" only supports
>>>> my point.
>>>
>>> Total absurd bullshit.
>>>
>>> You have NEVER needed to upgrade/replace your mobo every 3 years for a
>>> new version of Windows.
>>>
>>> As I've requested several times, make sure to keep your current hardware
>>> around so I can rub your Linuxy face in it when Win13 installs and runs
>>> just fine on it.
>>
>> I have to agree with you here. There was pressure to buy new hardware
>> every two or three years back in the 90s, but hardware nowadays easily
>> goes a decade with the original operating system on it. However, Windows
>> in that time will become unbearably slow for most users since they
>> usually have no idea how to maintain it. Linux, for its part, will be
>> just as fast ten years down the line as it was on day one.
> 
> 
> For you to be right for my machine, Win10 would need support till
> 2031, it's ending this year with an optional paid extension.

Not necessarily:  Win10 came out back in 2015, and your current PC was a 
license transfer from an older machine.

When was that older PC originally put into service with Win10?


-hh




[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#684332

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-19 11:38 -0500
Message-ID<fh9qojpadal3iv5shrrtgoih2o2c233vu1@4ax.com>
In reply to#684322
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>> Win10 need[s] support till
>> 2031, it's ending this year with an optional paid extension.
>
>Not necessarily:  Win10 came out back in 2015, and your current PC was a 
>license transfer from an older machine.
>
>When was that older PC originally put into service with Win10?


Think, power user, is anyone other than Relf's old computer running a
vintage *build* of Windows 10, since an expert knows it grew bloat-
wise at least until 20H2.  It would save me from Win11 hell, if it had
real extended support, but they'll make it short-term.  M$ has
endorsed GNU/Linux.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#684338

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2025-01-19 12:23 -0500
Message-ID<vmjce1$2chh8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#684332
On 1/19/25 11:38 AM, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> 

Original context:
 >>>> .... There was pressure to buy new hardware every two
 >>>> or three years back in the 90s, but hardware nowadays easily
 >>>> goes a decade with the original operating system on it.
 >>>> ...
 >>>
 >>> For you to be right for my machine, Win10 would need support...
 >>>
>>> Win10 need[s] support till
>>> 2031, it's ending this year with an optional paid extension.
>>
>> Not necessarily:  Win10 came out back in 2015, and your current PC 
>> was a license transfer from an older machine.
>>
>> When was that older PC originally put into service with Win10?
> 
> 
> Think, power user, is anyone other than Relf's old computer running a
> vintage *build* of Windows 10, since an expert knows it grew bloat-
> wise at least until 20H2.  It would save me from Win11 hell, if it had
> real extended support, but they'll make it short-term.  M$ has
> endorsed GNU/Linux.


Irrelevant to the question posed on lifecycle costs ...

"When was that older PC originally put into service with Win10?"


-hh

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


#684339

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-01-19 12:32 -0500
Message-ID<0kdqojtddtbqr8r0als321flvqiraasej2@4ax.com>
In reply to#684338
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>Original context:
> >>>> .... There was pressure to buy new hardware every two
> >>>> or three years back in the 90s, but hardware nowadays easily
> >>>> goes a decade with the original operating system on it.
> >>>> ...
> >>>
> >>> For you to be right for my machine, Win10 would need support...
> >>>
>>>> Win10 need[s] support till
>>>> 2031, it's ending this year with an optional paid extension.
>>>
>>> Not necessarily:  Win10 came out back in 2015, and your current PC 
>>> was a license transfer from an older machine.
>>>
>>> When was that older PC originally put into service with Win10?
>> 
>> Think, power user, is anyone other than Relf's old computer running a
>> vintage *build* of Windows 10, since an expert knows it grew bloat-
>> wise at least until 20H2.  It would save me from Win11 hell, if it had
>> real extended support, but they'll make it short-term.  M$ has
>> endorsed GNU/Linux.
>
>Irrelevant to the question posed on lifecycle costs ...
>
>"When was that older PC originally put into service with Win10?"


My PC started life with 20H2, which was a dream.  Win11 might've led
me back to 10, but then no support soon.  M$ has disowned numerous
computers.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]


Page 5 of 10 — ← Prev page 1 … 3 4 [5] 6 7 … 10  Next page →

Back to top | Article view | comp.os.linux.advocacy


csiph-web