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Who gives a shit about the Finder?

Started byNobody <nobody@invalid.com>
First post2015-08-29 14:27 -0500
Last post2015-09-06 18:03 -0500
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  Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-29 14:27 -0500
    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 19:56 +0000
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 13:09 -0700
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 07:28 +0000
          Snit was too droopy to answer... or was it because of his scurvy... Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:14 -0500
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:13 -0700
    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 13:09 -0700
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 07:34 +0000
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 07:48 +0000
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 09:57 +0200
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 08:49 +0000
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 08:56 +0000
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 09:41 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 11:47 +0200
                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 09:55 +0000
                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 12:06 +0200
                      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:16 +0000
                        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 13:47 +0200
                        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:34 -0700
                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:31 -0700
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 09:54 +0000
                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:02 +0000
                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 10:22 +0000
                      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:26 +0000
                        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 10:40 +0000
                          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-06 12:43 +0200
                          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:52 +0000
                            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 11:11 +0000
                              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 11:37 +0000
                                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 13:48 +0200
                                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:04 -0600
                                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 22:07 +0200
                                      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-07 21:37 -0600
                                        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-08 09:26 -0400
                                          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-08 15:36 +0200
                                          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-08 14:46 -0600
                                            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-08 20:05 -0400
                                              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-09 11:32 -0600
                                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 11:57 +0000
                                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 12:09 +0000
                                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 12:27 +0000
                                      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 12:31 +0000
                                        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:07 -0600
                                      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 16:50 +0200
                                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 08:44 -0500
                                      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:34 +0000
                                        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 09:38 -0500
                                          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:42 +0000
                                            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 09:47 -0500
                                              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:51 +0000
                                                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-06 10:53 -0400
                                                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:20 +0000
                                                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:31 -0500
                                                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-08 07:28 -0500
                                                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-08 14:47 -0600
                                                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:11 -0500
                                                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:33 +0000
                                                    Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:40 -0500
                                                      Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 16:02 +0000
                                                        Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 11:26 -0500
                                                          Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Tommy Troll <elkabong99@Itroll.org> - 2015-09-06 12:30 -0400
                                                            Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:10 -0600
                                                              Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 23:01 +0200
                                                                Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 01:53 +0000
                                                                Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-08 08:03 -0500
                                                                  Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-08 15:08 +0000
                                                                    Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-08 08:39 -0700
                                                                  Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-08 08:25 -0700
                                                              Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 23:57 +0000
                                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:44 -0700
                                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:43 -0700
                              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 13:45 +0200
                                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 11:50 +0000
                                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 12:02 +0000
                            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:42 -0700
                            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:04 -0600
                              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 22:05 +0200
                                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 18:20 -0500
                          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:37 -0700
                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:34 -0700
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:31 -0700
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:56 -0700
            He dunno, so I told him... Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 08:32 -0500
              He is nobody, so I told him... dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:40 +0000
                Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 09:46 -0500
                  Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:54 +0000
                    Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:07 -0500
                      Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:19 +0000
                        Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:30 -0500
                          Re: Hi Snit! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 17:39 +0200
                            Re: Hi Snit! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:49 -0700
                          Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:46 +0000
                            Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:55 -0500
                              Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 16:04 +0000
                                Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 11:24 -0500
                          Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:46 +0000
                            Re: Hi Snit! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 17:47 +0200
                              Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:58 -0500
                                Re: Hi Snit! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:50 -0700
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:26 -0700
              Snit is arguing with himself Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 12:34 -0500
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:25 -0700
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 12:40 -0500
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 20:41 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 21:45 +0200
                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 22:04 +0200
    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-29 20:21 +0000
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 13:31 -0700
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 00:34 +0000
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:44 -0700
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 03:02 -0500
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-30 08:44 +0000
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:09 -0700
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-30 20:48 +0200
                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 12:06 -0700
                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 20:49 +0000
                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 14:55 -0700
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:07 -0700
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-30 20:46 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:50 -0700
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-08-30 13:27 +0100
          Like you are as well, eh Dumb Willie? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-30 13:05 -0600
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-30 13:05 -0600
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 12:08 -0700
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 13:36 -0700
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-31 13:53 -0600
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 13:10 -0700
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-31 22:47 +0200
                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 13:50 -0700
                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-31 23:23 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-01 12:08 -0600
                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 11:14 -0700
    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:12 -0700
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 14:19 -0700
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:30 -0700
    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 00:33 +0000
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:44 -0700
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 03:08 -0500
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:09 -0700
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-31 20:32 -0500
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? "Drew P. Bawls" <drewpballs@nowhere2.net> - 2015-08-31 21:40 -0400
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 08:34 -0500
                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 19:32 +0000
                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 21:48 +0200
                      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 18:03 -0500

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#319349 — Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!

FromTommy Troll <elkabong99@Itroll.org>
Date2015-09-06 12:30 -0400
SubjectRe: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!
Message-ID<czy0qhrvx3s5$.1m6fr6efnhnv6.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#319347
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 11:26:19 -0500, Nobody wrote:

> On 9/6/2015 11:02 AM, dunno wrote:
>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/6/2015 10:33 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:51 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:42 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:34 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 7:09 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of app it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finder not found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ uname -a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in advance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Snit!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It restarts it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when you're restarting Finder.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What are you arguing with, again?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "What is the Finder?"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "The Finder is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and
>>>>>>>>>>> folders on your Mac."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Windows is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and folders on
>>>>>>>>>> your PC."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201732
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Too bad you insulted owl.  It was already bad enough he knows more about
>>>>>>>>>>> your computer than you do, and he doesn't even have a Mac!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apparently humiliating yourself makes you laugh.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nah, it's just you. Good entertainment, though. Are you waiting for a tip?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your humiliation deepens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So how deep do you feel it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do I have empathy for you?   No, not really, Droopy.
>>>>
>>>> "Empathy" is a very loose term for the guy who likes it to be deep.
>>>
>>> No it's not, Michael Glasser.   You're using yet another of your socks to
>>> post sexually harassing insults.  It's a dead giveaway every time your socks do this.
>>
>> It probably should be a very comfortable thought that Snit is the only one
>> to disagree with you. Anyway, I think this is good sign for you. You should
>> be eligible for free medical treatment, moreover, any doctor looking at
>> your actions would prescribe one for you.
> 
> You might as well have posted that as "Micheal Glasser."  It's that obvious.

It's snit posting through TOR from his iPod Touch.

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#319391 — Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-09-06 14:10 -0600
SubjectRe: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!
Message-ID<EtOdnXQzZc87AHHInZ2dnUU7-YWdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#319349
On 09/06/15 10:30, Tommy Troll wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 11:26:19 -0500, Nobody wrote:
>
>> On 9/6/2015 11:02 AM, dunno wrote:
>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>> On 9/6/2015 10:33 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:51 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:42 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:34 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 7:09 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody"<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of app it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finder not found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ uname -a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in advance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Snit!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It restarts it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when you're restarting Finder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are you arguing with, again?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "What is the Finder?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Finder is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and
>>>>>>>>>>>> folders on your Mac."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Windows is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and folders on
>>>>>>>>>>> your PC."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201732
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Too bad you insulted owl.  It was already bad enough he knows more about
>>>>>>>>>>>> your computer than you do, and he doesn't even have a Mac!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Apparently humiliating yourself makes you laugh.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nah, it's just you. Good entertainment, though. Are you waiting for a tip?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your humiliation deepens.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So how deep do you feel it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do I have empathy for you?   No, not really, Droopy.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Empathy" is a very loose term for the guy who likes it to be deep.
>>>>
>>>> No it's not, Michael Glasser.   You're using yet another of your socks to
>>>> post sexually harassing insults.  It's a dead giveaway every time your socks do this.
>>>
>>> It probably should be a very comfortable thought that Snit is the only one
>>> to disagree with you. Anyway, I think this is good sign for you. You should
>>> be eligible for free medical treatment, moreover, any doctor looking at
>>> your actions would prescribe one for you.
>>
>> You might as well have posted that as "Micheal Glasser."  It's that obvious.
>
> It's snit posting through TOR from his iPod Touch.

It actually sounds more like a bot than a person.


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#319400 — Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-09-06 23:01 +0200
SubjectRe: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!
Message-ID<msi9g1$hg1$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#319391
GreyCloud wrote:

> On 09/06/15 10:30, Tommy Troll wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 11:26:19 -0500, Nobody wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/6/2015 11:02 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>> On 9/6/2015 10:33 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:51 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:42 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:34 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 7:09 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody"<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the Finder supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as Peter did, that Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of an application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Linux does not lack them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application called "Finder", it's part of Cocoa.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real machine and see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the same thing will happen as happens when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restart nautilus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so we can see what kind of app it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terminal with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is," I'd try:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finder not found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hood. $ uname -a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> r274401: Tue Nov 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  amd64 $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finder, then find what process is using that name and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> track it down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asking me to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melzzzz's help) you can run file on it "to find out what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of app it is." Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you think system gets frozen for a little while when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're trying to restart Finder?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a Mack. Does something make it "not an app" just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it's not in your path?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you I will cheer you on the next Special Olympics, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meanwhile I would like you to find out why GUI can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Snit!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It restarts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're restarting Finder. What are you arguing with, again?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "What is the Finder?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Finder is the app that helps you navigate all of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> files and folders on your Mac."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Windows is the app that helps you navigate all of the files
>>>>>>>>>>>> and folders on your PC."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201732
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too bad you insulted owl.  It was already bad enough he knows
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more about your computer than you do, and he doesn't even have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a Mac!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently humiliating yourself makes you laugh.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nah, it's just you. Good entertainment, though. Are you waiting
>>>>>>>>>> for a tip?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your humiliation deepens.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So how deep do you feel it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do I have empathy for you?   No, not really, Droopy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Empathy" is a very loose term for the guy who likes it to be deep.
>>>>>
>>>>> No it's not, Michael Glasser.   You're using yet another of your socks
>>>>> to
>>>>> post sexually harassing insults.  It's a dead giveaway every time your
>>>>> socks do this.
>>>>
>>>> It probably should be a very comfortable thought that Snit is the only
>>>> one to disagree with you. Anyway, I think this is good sign for you.
>>>> You should be eligible for free medical treatment, moreover, any doctor
>>>> looking at your actions would prescribe one for you.
>>>
>>> You might as well have posted that as "Micheal Glasser."  It's that
>>> obvious.
>>
>> It's snit posting through TOR from his iPod Touch.
> 
> It actually sounds more like a bot than a person.
> 
> 
It sounds like a intentionally stupid Snit sock

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#319439 — Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!

Fromronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-07 01:53 +0000
SubjectRe: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!
Message-ID<msiqm8$11k$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#319400
On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 23:01:36 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> It sounds like a intentionally stupid Snit sock

How do you tell the difference between an "intentionally stupid" "Snit" 
sock and unintentionally stupid "Snit" socks? 

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#319608 — Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-09-08 08:03 -0500
SubjectRe: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!
Message-ID<22ntuata6mvr2ldthfdt2ei90u5n1n6ku1@4ax.com>
In reply to#319400
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:

Jeezez.  What is *wrong* with these people?

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#319617 — Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-08 15:08 +0000
SubjectRe: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!
Message-ID<fea03f.foia@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#319608
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:

> Jeezez.  What is *wrong* with these people?

you are a genuine kook.

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#319622 — Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-08 08:39 -0700
SubjectRe: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!
Message-ID<D2144F54.5B010%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#319617
On 9/8/15, 8:08 AM, in article fea03f.foia@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
> 
>> Jeezez.  What is *wrong* with these people?
> 
> you are a genuine kook.
> 
No, he has a point. Here you are in a discussion forum having a discussion!

I mean, what the heck? He shows no sign of you attacking anyone or insulting
anyone or otherwise acting poorly. Where you and if not why not?

Oh. Wait.

chrisv is just trolling.

Never mind. :)


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#319620 — Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-08 08:25 -0700
SubjectRe: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!
Message-ID<D2144BED.5AFFE%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#319608
On 9/8/15, 6:03 AM, in article 22ntuata6mvr2ldthfdt2ei90u5n1n6ku1@4ax.com,
"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
> 
> Jeezez.  What is *wrong* with these people?

Yeah... a CONVERSATION! What the hell! In a discussion group.

Just stupid.

Wait. 

No, that is not at all the case. It is fine!


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#319419 — Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!

FromNobody <nobody@invalid.com>
Date2015-09-06 23:57 +0000
SubjectRe: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!
Message-ID<msiju2$b2v$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#319391
On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 14:10:14 -0600, GreyCloud wrote:

> On 09/06/15 10:30, Tommy Troll wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 11:26:19 -0500, Nobody wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/6/2015 11:02 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>> On 9/6/2015 10:33 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:51 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:42 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:34 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 7:09 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody"<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the Finder supposed to convince
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as Peter did, that Linux lacks the features
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> features of an application, not of the OS. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not lack them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application called "Finder", it's part of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-
finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-
restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real machine and see what will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the same thing will happen as happens when I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restart nautilus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> X, so we can see what kind of app it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terminal with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is," I'd try:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder Finder not found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hood.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ uname -a FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/
GENERIC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  amd64 $ which Finder $
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finder, then find what process is using that name and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> track it down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asking me to point you to it?  And now that you've found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it (with Melzzzz's help) you can run file on it "to find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out what kind of app it is."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X keep the apps, but in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restart Finder?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a Mack. Does something make it "not an app" just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it's not in your path?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you I will cheer you on the next Special Olympics, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meanwhile I would like you to find out why GUI can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in advance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Snit!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarts it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're restarting Finder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are you arguing with, again?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "What is the Finder?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Finder is the app that helps you navigate all of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> files and folders on your Mac."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Windows is the app that helps you navigate all of the files
>>>>>>>>>>>> and folders on your PC."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201732
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Too bad you insulted owl.  It was already bad enough he
>>>>>>>>>>>>> knows more about your computer than you do, and he doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> even have a Mac!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently humiliating yourself makes you laugh.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nah, it's just you. Good entertainment, though. Are you waiting
>>>>>>>>>> for a tip?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your humiliation deepens.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So how deep do you feel it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do I have empathy for you?   No, not really, Droopy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Empathy" is a very loose term for the guy who likes it to be deep.
>>>>>
>>>>> No it's not, Michael Glasser.   You're using yet another of your
>>>>> socks to post sexually harassing insults.  It's a dead giveaway
>>>>> every time your socks do this.
>>>>
>>>> It probably should be a very comfortable thought that Snit is the
>>>> only one to disagree with you. Anyway, I think this is good sign for
>>>> you. You should be eligible for free medical treatment, moreover, any
>>>> doctor looking at your actions would prescribe one for you.
>>>
>>> You might as well have posted that as "Micheal Glasser."  It's that
>>> obvious.
>>
>> It's snit posting through TOR from his iPod Touch.
> 
> It actually sounds more like a bot than a person.

Yes, I noticed a mechanical quality to its posts when it first arrived.  

Snit's mania soon robbed it of that cover.

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#319362

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-06 10:44 -0700
Message-ID<D211C99A.5A1CC%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#319297
On 9/6/15, 5:09 AM, in article mshad1$dvh$1@news.mixmin.net, "dunno"
<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:

> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder without
> restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when you're restarting Finder.

Nope. Other GUI programs just keep in going... including the Dock and the
Menu: <http://youtu.be/DNqlUiQ76ME>.

> What are you arguing with, again?
> 
>> Why don't you read the links I gave you and learn how to use your
>> own operating system.  I don't have a Mack.  Don't want one.  I like
>> my Unix to be Unix.



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#319361

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-06 10:43 -0700
Message-ID<D211C956.5A1CB%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#319295
On 9/6/15, 4:57 AM, in article adfv.k0zd3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack.
>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path?
> 
>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer
>> you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find
>> out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks
>> in advance.
> 
> Hi Snit!

And you join the idiocy of "everyone is Snit". Why?

> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It restarts it.
> Why don't you read the links I gave you and learn how to use your
> own operating system.  I don't have a Mack.  Don't want one.  I like
> my Unix to be Unix.



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#319291

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-09-06 13:45 +0200
Message-ID<msh8t0$g8j$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#319289
owl wrote:

> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Linux lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lack them.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application
>>>>>>>>>> called "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart
>>>>>>>>>> Finder without restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and
>>>>>>>> see what will happen?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same
>>>>>>> thing will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see
>>>>>> what kind of app it is.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>> 
>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>> 
>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>> 
>>>> $ which Finder
>>>> Finder not found
>>> 
>>> Mack really returns that?
>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>> $ uname -a
>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014    
>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64 $ which
>>> Finder $
>>> 
>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
> 
>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
> 
> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.

It is a bog-standard application bundle. Its name is "Finder.app"
It has Resources like any other normal app, Info.plist, PkgInfo, 
version.plist

You name it. A totally normal application, not a intrinsic "part of Cocoa". 
It could be replaced by another application as well. Which would be a good 
thing, given how extremely shitty Finder is

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#319294

Fromdunno <dunno@dunno.dunno>
Date2015-09-06 11:50 +0000
Message-ID<msh9a4$bnn$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#319291
Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
> owl wrote:
> 
>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Linux lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lack them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application
>>>>>>>>>>> called "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart
>>>>>>>>>>> Finder without restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and
>>>>>>>>> see what will happen?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same
>>>>>>>> thing will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see
>>>>>>> what kind of app it is.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>> 
>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>> Finder not found
>>>> 
>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>>> $ uname -a
>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014    
>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64 $ which
>>>> Finder $
>>>> 
>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>> 
>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>> 
>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
> 
> It is a bog-standard application bundle. Its name is "Finder.app"
> It has Resources like any other normal app, Info.plist, PkgInfo, 
> version.plist
> 
> You name it. A totally normal application, not a intrinsic "part of Cocoa". 
> It could be replaced by another application as well

Go ahead and replace it then, and see what happens. Your abilities would be
enough to create dummy application which is just calling SYS_EXIT system
call? Or you would need any help?

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#319296

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-06 12:02 +0000
Message-ID<wuddoe.89vsa@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#319294
dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
> Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>> owl wrote:
>> 
>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Linux lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lack them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application
>>>>>>>>>>>> called "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart
>>>>>>>>>>>> Finder without restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and
>>>>>>>>>> see what will happen?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same
>>>>>>>>> thing will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see
>>>>>>>> what kind of app it is.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>> 
>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>> Finder not found
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>>>> $ uname -a
>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014    
>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64 $ which
>>>>> Finder $
>>>>> 
>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>>> 
>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>> 
>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
>>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>> 
>> It is a bog-standard application bundle. Its name is "Finder.app"
>> It has Resources like any other normal app, Info.plist, PkgInfo, 
>> version.plist
>> 
>> You name it. A totally normal application, not a intrinsic "part of Cocoa". 
>> It could be replaced by another application as well

> Go ahead and replace it then, and see what happens. Your abilities would be
> enough to create dummy application which is just calling SYS_EXIT system
> call? Or you would need any help?

Well, you don't understand kill(), so why anybody ask you about syscalls?

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#319360

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-06 10:42 -0700
Message-ID<D211C902.5A1CA%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#319288
On 9/6/15, 3:52 AM, in article msh5tn$4jf$1@news.mixmin.net, "dunno"
<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:

>> Mack really returns that?
>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>> $ uname -a
>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014
>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>> $ which Finder
>> $ 
>> 
>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>> what process is using that name and track it down.
> 
> Of course Finder can be tracked down. But you'll find it not where OS X
> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder?

Frozen? What? Nope.
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#319385

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-09-06 14:04 -0600
Message-ID<EtOdnXszZc-jAXHInZ2dnUU7-YWdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#319288
On 09/06/15 04:52, dunno wrote:
> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody"<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what
>>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>
>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
>>>>> kind of app it is.
>>>>
>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>
>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>
>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>
>>> $ which Finder
>>> Finder not found
>>
>> Mack really returns that?
>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>> $ uname -a
>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014     root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>> $ which Finder
>> $
>>
>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>
> Of course Finder can be tracked down. But you'll find it not where OS X
> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder?
>
LOL!!!  Why do keep doing the side-step shuffle when you know you erred?


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#319388

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-09-06 22:05 +0200
Message-ID<msi66s$3jm$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#319385
GreyCloud wrote:

> On 09/06/15 04:52, dunno wrote:
>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody"<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Linux lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lack them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application
>>>>>>>>>> called "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart
>>>>>>>>>> Finder without restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and
>>>>>>>> see what will happen?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same
>>>>>>> thing will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see
>>>>>> what kind of app it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>
>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>>
>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>
>>>> $ which Finder
>>>> Finder not found
>>>
>>> Mack really returns that?
>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>> $ uname -a
>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014    
>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64 $ which
>>> Finder $
>>>
>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>>
>> Of course Finder can be tracked down. But you'll find it not where OS X
>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think
>> system gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart
>> Finder?
>>
> LOL!!!  Why do keep doing the side-step shuffle when you know you erred?
> 
> 
Because he is Snit Michael Glasser, the lying imbecile from Prescott AZ

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#319412

FromNobody <nobody@invalid.com>
Date2015-09-06 18:20 -0500
Message-ID<msiho3$6e3$4@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#319388
On 9/6/2015 3:54 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 9/6/15, 1:05 PM, in article msi66s$3jm$3@dont-email.me, "Peter Köhlmann"
> <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>
>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down. But you'll find it not where OS X
>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think
>>>> system gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart
>>>> Finder?
>>>>
>>> LOL!!!  Why do keep doing the side-step shuffle when you know you erred?
>>>
>>>
>> Because he is Snit Michael Glasser, the lying imbecile from Prescott AZ
>
> Ah, the unquotable lie gag.
>
> Orange you glad I didn't say banana.

You ought to eat that orange, Scurvy McRicketts.  Wash it down with a 
glass of milk.  Then put on a cup to support your droopy balls.

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#319358

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-06 10:37 -0700
Message-ID<D211C7E2.5A1C8%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#319286
On 9/6/15, 3:40 AM, in article asdfmv8.kfida@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that
>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application,
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder
>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>> 
>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not really.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>> 
>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
>>>> kind of app it is.
>>> 
>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>> 
>>> $ killall Finder.
>>> 
>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>> 
>>> $ file `which Finder`
> 
>> $ which Finder
>> Finder not found
> 
> Mack really returns that?
> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
> $ uname -a
> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
> 21:02:49 UTC 2014
> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
> $ which Finder
> $ 
> 
> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
> what process is using that name and track it down.
> 
/System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app

In "top" it comes up as "Finder" and "killall Finder" works fine.


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#319355

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-06 10:34 -0700
Message-ID<D211C71C.5A1C0%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#319279
On 9/6/15, 3:02 AM, in article msh305$c6u$1@news.mixmin.net, "dunno"
<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:

> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed
>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux
>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not
>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>> 
>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>> 
>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>> 
>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>> 
>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>> 
>>> Are you kidding?
>> 
>> Not really.
>> 
>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what
>>> will happen?
>> 
>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
> 
> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
> kind of app it is.

/System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app

It is an application.

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