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Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC.

Started byFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
First post2015-11-09 02:20 +0000
Last post2015-11-16 11:41 -0700
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  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 02:20 +0000
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 18:55 -0800
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 20:02 -0700
      Circus Alert.. Don't take the bait Fabian Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 22:11 -0500
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 04:22 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 21:50 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 05:13 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 22:38 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 10:45 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-16 09:25 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-16 19:09 +0100
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-16 18:59 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-11-09 04:38 -0800
        Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-08 21:30 -0800
          Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 06:18 +0000
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 12:43 +0000
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:09 -0700
              Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:28 -0800
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:03 -0700
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-09 20:26 +0000
              Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:27 -0700
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-09 15:39 -0500
              Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 15:45 -0500
              Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-09 21:53 +0100
                Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 16:01 -0500
                Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 17:14 -0500
                  Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 15:18 -0700
                  Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 17:48 -0500
                  Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-10 01:58 +0100
                Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:28 -0700
                  Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-10 02:30 +0100
                    Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:24 -0700
                    Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-10 22:50 +0000
          Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 06:31 +0000
            Fabian Russell is disabled. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-08 23:12 -0800
            Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:03 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 03:12 -0500
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:04 -0700
        Rot in Hell, Russell.  There Moi fixed your 1st post. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 02:31 -0800
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 12:39 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 06:47 -0800
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 15:35 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 07:51 -0800
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 16:31 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:32 -0800
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:01 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 20:04 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 15:18 -0500
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 21:01 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 16:08 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:35 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 13:54 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 20:54 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 21:13 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 17:17 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 23:24 +0100
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 17:36 -0500
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:37 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:32 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 13:04 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:30 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 18:44 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 03:58 +0000
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:38 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 08:18 -0500
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 15:15 +0000
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 10:49 -0500
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 07:54 -0800
                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 11:21 -0500
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 08:46 -0800
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:27 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:25 -0700
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 12:45 -0700
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 22:30 +0000
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 17:37 -0500
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:04 -0700
                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 01:30 +0000
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:59 -0700
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 03:15 +0000
                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-11 07:22 +0000
                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 10:20 -0700
                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 21:32 +0000
                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 14:51 -0700
                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:13 +0000
                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 23:17 +0100
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:28 -0700
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:38 +0000
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:40 -0500
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-12 23:24 +0000
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 00:33 +0000
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 10:57 +0000
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-13 12:21 +0100
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 12:26 +0000
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-13 14:57 +0100
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 17:04 +0000
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-13 07:25 -0600
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 11:48 -0500
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 17:09 +0000
                                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 20:39 +0000
                                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 15:43 -0500
                                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 21:30 +0000
                                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-16 09:27 +0000
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 22:18 +0000
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-16 09:29 +0000
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:39 -0500
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 10:55 +0000
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:26 -0700
                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:26 -0700
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:42 +0000
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 16:06 -0700
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 23:25 +0000
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-12 23:36 +0000
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:46 -0500
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 00:35 +0000
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:54 -0700
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:53 -0700
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 15:36 -0800
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 17:40 -0700
                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:37 -0500
                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 00:40 +0000
                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:01 -0700
                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 01:29 +0000
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:47 -0700
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:29 +0000
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 19:34 -0700
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 21:45 -0500
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 19:05 -0800
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 21:03 -0500
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:26 +0000
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 19:35 -0700
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:51 +0000
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 22:00 -0500
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 03:36 +0000
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 22:41 -0500
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 19:46 -0800
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 20:00 -0700
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 03:18 +0000
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 01:49 -0700
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 10:27 -0500
                                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 11:15 -0500
                                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-13 11:30 -0500
                                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 11:32 -0500
                                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 08:45 -0800
                                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 12:12 -0500
                                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:25 -0700
                                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 12:27 -0500
                                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:41 -0700
                                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 12:40 -0500
                                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:47 -0700
                                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 12:52 -0500
                                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 10:25 -0500
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 10:28 -0500
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 11:52 -0500
                                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:02 -0700
                                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 12:15 -0500
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 08:24 -0800
                                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 12:52 -0500
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 21:44 -0500
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 10:24 -0500
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-14 01:01 +0000
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 20:08 -0500
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 20:17 -0500
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 02:07 +0000
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 21:48 +0100
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 14:23 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 21:25 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 14:37 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:41 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 21:07 -0500
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:05 +0000
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:48 -0700
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 08:20 -0500
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 15:18 +0000
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:29 -0700
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:28 -0700
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 12:46 -0700
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:36 -0700
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 18:32 -0500
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:39 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 18:46 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:09 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:47 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 08:21 -0500
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 14:48 +0100
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 10:34 -0500
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 18:27 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:31 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 20:51 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 21:21 +0000
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 21:49 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 15:12 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:48 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:14 +0000
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:47 -0700
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:33 -0700
              GhostScipt works well on Windows. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-09 16:09 -0800
                Re: GhostScipt works well on Windows. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 19:54 -0500
                  Re: GhostScipt works well on Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:49 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-11-10 03:23 -0800
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-11 09:42 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 13:29 +0100
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-11 13:08 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 16:58 -0500
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:43 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:18 +0000
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:46 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:49 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:48 -0700
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 04:56 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 22:15 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 05:27 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 22:43 -0700
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-11-09 04:35 -0800
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 06:46 -0800
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 10:14 +0000
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 18:02 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:15 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:06 -0700
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 14:13 -0500
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-09 06:13 -0500
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 12:32 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:38 -0500
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-09 07:51 -0600
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-09 09:48 -0500
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-09 10:03 -0500
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 18:05 +0000
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-09 13:19 -0500
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 14:24 -0500
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:08 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 16:35 -0500
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 13:52 -0500
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:17 -0700
        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:07 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 21:46 +0100
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 14:26 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:52 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-10 02:54 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:51 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 10:27 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 06:52 -0500
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 13:21 +0100
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 07:39 -0500
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:55 -0700
                    Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-10 07:12 -0600
                      Re: Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-10 08:22 -0500
                      Re: Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:58 -0700
                      Re: Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-11 09:27 -0600
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:58 -0700
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-10 22:01 +0000
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 23:15 +0100
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:38 -0700
                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 00:45 +0100
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-11 14:15 -0700
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:10 -0700
                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 17:33 -0800
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 21:58 +0000
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 23:15 +0100
                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:19 +0000
                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:30 -0700
                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 00:37 +0000
                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:00 -0700
                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 01:24 +0000
                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:46 -0700
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:28 +0000
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 19:34 -0700
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-13 10:27 +0100
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 02:41 -0700
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 09:44 +0000
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:23 -0700
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 11:06 -0500
                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 17:27 -0800
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:24 -0700
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 15:33 -0800
                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 10:05 +0100
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-11 11:20 +0000
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 13:27 +0100
                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 10:36 -0700
                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 22:58 +0100
                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:15 -0700
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-11 06:15 -0500
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:37 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 09:31 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:55 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:54 -0700
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-11 20:05 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 10:03 +0100
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 10:18 +0100
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 11:40 -0700
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 11:40 -0700
          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 21:14 +0000
            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:53 -0700
              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-10 18:00 -0500
                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:39 -0700
                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-11 18:00 -0500
                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-11 20:02 -0700
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 06:46 +0000
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 11:41 -0700
                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-12 09:22 -0500
                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 11:43 -0700
                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-12 18:07 -0500
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-13 07:35 -0600
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:58 -0700
                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:57 -0700
                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-14 07:30 -0500
                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-14 12:18 -0700
                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-14 22:09 -0500
                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-14 20:12 -0700
                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-15 03:31 +0000
                                        To dvus. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 11:40 -0700
                                      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-15 10:46 -0500
                                        Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 11:38 -0700
                                          Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-16 14:47 -0500
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-16 20:26 +0000
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-16 14:43 -0600
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-16 14:19 -0700
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 15:39 -0700
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 15:38 -0700
                                            Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 15:37 -0700
                                              Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-17 05:30 -0500
                                                Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-17 14:57 -0700
                                                  Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-17 20:04 -0500
                                                    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-17 19:26 -0700
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 08:14 -0500
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-11-09 06:52 -0800
    Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Bob Loblaw <BL@LinuxProfessionals.com> - 2015-11-15 11:05 -0500
      Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 11:41 -0700

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#332660

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-12 10:20 -0700
Message-ID<D26A1872.639FC%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#332500
On 11/10/15, 8:15 PM, in article
pan.2015.11.11.03.16.12@localhost.localdomain, "Fabian Russell"
<root@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Nov 2015 18:59:03 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>> Curious of your views on his quotes
>> and the others I provided:
>> 
> 
> Sorry, I am not concerned with out-of-context quips by personages that
> have largely been created by media.

Comes down to I am correct - most of those comments from big names in Linux
/ open source are very different from your views. Which is fine. :)

> But Linus is certainly a man after my own heart.  I recall that recently
> he railed against the notion of a "virtual machine" stating that real
> men prefer real hardware.

He also says a lot of things you disagree with - again, fine... I do not
agree with all he says either.

> Oh yes!  I am truly sickened by these aficionados of all things
> virtual, from machines to containers.  Although I suppose that virtual
> machines have their uses they simply grate at my soul.  I would not even
> consider doing anything virtual.

Virtual machines can be great tools... but don't use them if you do not
want.

> I have cut my teeth on assembly language.  Once that fundamental stuff
> gets into your blood it never gets out.

How do you think this is relevant?



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#332710

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-12 21:32 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.12.21.31.10@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#332660
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:20:34 -0700, Snit wrote:

> 
>> I have cut my teeth on assembly language.  Once that fundamental stuff
>> gets into your blood it never gets out.
> 
> How do you think this is relevant?
>

It is relevant because the whole fscking world seemed to have fallen
madly in love with Object Oriented programming, and I happen to despise
OO with a raging passion.

I have examined the issue deeply, and I can only conclude that OO
is so fscking popular because people no longer can comprehend
hardware.  They are lost in the fogs of lofty OO abstractions and
cannot perceive the machine.

But for me it is quite different.  I BEGAN with hardware and assembly
language.  I BEGAN with an intimate involvement with hardware.  As
a result I can see nothing but the machine.  Oh yes, I can understand
all the abstractions but, for me, such abstractions quickly fade into
nothing against the blazing image of the machine.

When I encounter high level code of any kind, my mind cannot help
but to plunge immediately down into the assembly code that underlies
it all.  Thus, as a consequence, I do not not especially favor
the creation of ever higher abstractions that serve only to
obliterate and not truly enlighten.

It is, I suppose a sickness, but it is a sickness from which no
escape, or cure, is possible.

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#332711

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-12 14:51 -0700
Message-ID<D26A57E1.63AA6%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#332710
On 11/12/15, 2:32 PM, in article
pan.2015.11.12.21.31.10@localhost.localdomain, "Fabian Russell"
<root@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:20:34 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>>>> Curious of your views on his quotes and the others I provided:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sorry, I am not concerned with out-of-context quips by personages that have
>>> largely been created by media.
>>> 
>> Comes down to I am correct - most of those comments from big names in Linux /
>> open source are very different from your views. Which is fine. :)
>> 
>>> But Linus is certainly a man after my own heart.  I recall that recently he
>>> railed against the notion of a "virtual machine" stating that real men
>>> prefer real hardware.
>>> 
>> He also says a lot of things you disagree with - again, fine... I do not
>> agree with all he says either.
>> 
>>> Oh yes!  I am truly sickened by these aficionados of all things virtual,
>>> from machines to containers.  Although I suppose that virtual machines have
>>> their uses they simply grate at my soul.  I would not even consider doing
>>> anything virtual.
>>> 
>> Virtual machines can be great tools... but don't use them if you do not want.
>> 
>>> I have cut my teeth on assembly language.  Once that fundamental stuff gets
>>> into your blood it never gets out.
>>> 
>> How do you think this is relevant?
> 
> It is relevant because the whole fscking world seemed to have fallen
> madly in love with Object Oriented programming, and I happen to despise
> OO with a raging passion.

The topic had nothing to do with programming.

> I have examined the issue deeply, and I can only conclude that OO
> is so fscking popular because people no longer can comprehend
> hardware.  They are lost in the fogs of lofty OO abstractions and
> cannot perceive the machine.

Why do you use assembly and not machine code? You are using an abstraction,
too.

> But for me it is quite different.  I BEGAN with hardware and assembly
> language.  I BEGAN with an intimate involvement with hardware.  As
> a result I can see nothing but the machine.  Oh yes, I can understand
> all the abstractions but, for me, such abstractions quickly fade into
> nothing against the blazing image of the machine.

I do not deny your lack of understanding of the value of higher level
languages and the benefits they offer.

> When I encounter high level code of any kind, my mind cannot help
> but to plunge immediately down into the assembly code that underlies
> it all.  Thus, as a consequence, I do not not especially favor
> the creation of ever higher abstractions that serve only to
> obliterate and not truly enlighten.

So you have a weakness when dealing with code. OK.

> It is, I suppose a sickness, but it is a sickness from which no
> escape, or cure, is possible.

Fair enough... I wish you well.



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#332716

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-12 22:13 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.12.22.12.15@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#332711
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 14:51:13 -0700, Snit wrote:

> 
> Why do you use assembly and not machine code? You are using an abstraction,
> too.
> 

No, it is not an abstraction.  Assembly code is a MNEMONIC, in the
same way that a web address is a MNEMONIC for IPv4 dotted quad notation
(i.e. xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx).

Actually I do, or did, use machine code, if machine code is meant
to be the actual binary numeric vales used to indicate instructions
to the processor.

Using machine code can be a fun experience, because the actual binary
values have regular patterns within instruction families.  Once these
pattens are recognized, it becomes easy to rapidly plug those values
into memory.

With practice, writing assembly code can be a very fast process,
and also even MUCH EASIER than crafting high level code.  This
is because there are no crazy syntax issues to deal with or
remember.


> 
> So you have a weakness when dealing with code. OK.
> 

No. It is actually a strength.

But the world fails to recognize it as such.

Such misapprehension has occurred throughout human history.


> 
> Fair enough... I wish you well.
>

No, you don't.  But be assured that my attitude toward you
is not reciprocated.

(I am NOT a nice person and never will be.)

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#332719

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-11-12 23:17 +0100
Message-ID<n2331l$sid$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#332716
Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 14:51:13 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Why do you use assembly and not machine code? You are using an
>> abstraction, too.
>> 
> 
> No, it is not an abstraction.  Assembly code is a MNEMONIC, in the
> same way that a web address is a MNEMONIC for IPv4 dotted quad notation
> (i.e. xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx).
> 
> Actually I do, or did, use machine code, if machine code is meant
> to be the actual binary numeric vales used to indicate instructions
> to the processor.
> 
> Using machine code can be a fun experience, because the actual binary
> values have regular patterns within instruction families.  Once these
> pattens are recognized, it becomes easy to rapidly plug those values
> into memory.
> 
> With practice, writing assembly code can be a very fast process,
> and also even MUCH EASIER than crafting high level code.  This
> is because there are no crazy syntax issues to deal with or
> remember.

Bullshit. I have written assembler code several years. It has its place, 
even now. But it is idiotic to even imply it might be used instead of high-
level languages. Especially OO languages

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#332725

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-12 15:28 -0700
Message-ID<D26A60B6.63ABB%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#332719
On 11/12/15, 3:17 PM, in article n2331l$sid$4@dont-email.me, "Peter
Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

> Fabian Russell wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 14:51:13 -0700, Snit wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Why do you use assembly and not machine code? You are using an
>>> abstraction, too.
>>> 
>> 
>> No, it is not an abstraction.  Assembly code is a MNEMONIC, in the
>> same way that a web address is a MNEMONIC for IPv4 dotted quad notation
>> (i.e. xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx).
>> 
>> Actually I do, or did, use machine code, if machine code is meant
>> to be the actual binary numeric vales used to indicate instructions
>> to the processor.
>> 
>> Using machine code can be a fun experience, because the actual binary
>> values have regular patterns within instruction families.  Once these
>> pattens are recognized, it becomes easy to rapidly plug those values
>> into memory.
>> 
>> With practice, writing assembly code can be a very fast process,
>> and also even MUCH EASIER than crafting high level code.  This
>> is because there are no crazy syntax issues to deal with or
>> remember.
> 
> Bullshit. I have written assembler code several years. It has its place,
> even now. But it is idiotic to even imply it might be used instead of high-
> level languages. Especially OO languages

For once you make a reasonable statement. Some of your comments about
politics / religion have also been reasonable. Amazing.


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#332727

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-12 22:38 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.12.22.38.05@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#332719
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 23:17:35 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> 
>  But it is idiotic to even imply ...
>

It is idiotic only to an idiot.

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#332747

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-12 18:40 -0500
Message-ID<n237sv$lgb$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#332727
On 2015-11-12 5:38 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 23:17:35 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> 
>>
>>  But it is idiotic to even imply ...
>>
> 
> It is idiotic only to an idiot.

And Peter the Klöwn is definitely that.

-- 
Slimer

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#332739

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-11-12 23:24 +0000
Message-ID<fdsau03.fa0@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#332719
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
> Fabian Russell wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 14:51:13 -0700, Snit wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Why do you use assembly and not machine code? You are using an
>>> abstraction, too.
>>> 
>> 
>> No, it is not an abstraction.  Assembly code is a MNEMONIC, in the
>> same way that a web address is a MNEMONIC for IPv4 dotted quad notation
>> (i.e. xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx).
>> 
>> Actually I do, or did, use machine code, if machine code is meant
>> to be the actual binary numeric vales used to indicate instructions
>> to the processor.
>> 
>> Using machine code can be a fun experience, because the actual binary
>> values have regular patterns within instruction families.  Once these
>> pattens are recognized, it becomes easy to rapidly plug those values
>> into memory.
>> 
>> With practice, writing assembly code can be a very fast process,
>> and also even MUCH EASIER than crafting high level code.  This
>> is because there are no crazy syntax issues to deal with or
>> remember.
> 
> Bullshit. I have written assembler code several years. It has its place, 
> even now. But it is idiotic to even imply it might be used instead of high-
> level languages. Especially OO languages

Doesn't 7 use it to optimize SQL queries?

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#332755

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-13 00:33 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.13.00.34.17@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#332739
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 23:24:57 +0000, owl wrote:

> 
> Doesn't 7 use it to optimize SQL queries?
>

Do you speak of that junk known as LINQ, or language integrated
query, that is a part of Microsoft .NET?

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#332851

FromDesk Rabbit <me@example.com>
Date2015-11-13 10:57 +0000
Message-ID<n24fhl$30h$2@deskrabbit.motzarella.org>
In reply to#332755
On 13/11/2015 00:33, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 23:24:57 +0000, owl wrote:
>
>>
>> Doesn't 7 use it to optimize SQL queries?
>>
>
> Do you speak of that junk known as LINQ, or language integrated
> query, that is a part of Microsoft .NET?
>
>

Ah you mean that Microsoft Language that the leading Linux distributor 
(Red Hat) is falling over backwards to include support for?

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#332852

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-11-13 12:21 +0100
Message-ID<n24gvc$9ds$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#332851
Desk Rabbit wrote:

> On 13/11/2015 00:33, Fabian Russell wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 23:24:57 +0000, owl wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Doesn't 7 use it to optimize SQL queries?
>>>
>>
>> Do you speak of that junk known as LINQ, or language integrated
>> query, that is a part of Microsoft .NET?
>>
>>
> 
> Ah you mean that Microsoft Language that the leading Linux distributor
> (Red Hat) is falling over backwards to include support for?

It is somewhat different. MS needs linux support for its cloud

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#332855

FromDesk Rabbit <me@example.com>
Date2015-11-13 12:26 +0000
Message-ID<n24kop$mlk$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org>
In reply to#332852
On 13/11/2015 11:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> Desk Rabbit wrote:
>
>> On 13/11/2015 00:33, Fabian Russell wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 23:24:57 +0000, owl wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't 7 use it to optimize SQL queries?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you speak of that junk known as LINQ, or language integrated
>>> query, that is a part of Microsoft .NET?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Ah you mean that Microsoft Language that the leading Linux distributor
>> (Red Hat) is falling over backwards to include support for?
>
> It is somewhat different. MS needs linux support for its cloud
>

Errr, no, wrong. Azure has supported the running of Linux virtual 
machines for a long time, this is about running .NET apps on Red Hat Linux

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#332862

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-11-13 14:57 +0100
Message-ID<n24q4p$bbd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#332855
Desk Rabbit wrote:

> On 13/11/2015 11:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>> Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>
>>> On 13/11/2015 00:33, Fabian Russell wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 23:24:57 +0000, owl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Doesn't 7 use it to optimize SQL queries?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you speak of that junk known as LINQ, or language integrated
>>>> query, that is a part of Microsoft .NET?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ah you mean that Microsoft Language that the leading Linux distributor
>>> (Red Hat) is falling over backwards to include support for?
>>
>> It is somewhat different. MS needs linux support for its cloud
>>
> 
> Errr, no, wrong. Azure has supported the running of Linux virtual
> machines for a long time, this is about running .NET apps on Red Hat Linux

Wrong

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#332895

FromDesk Rabbit <me@example.com>
Date2015-11-13 17:04 +0000
Message-ID<n25535$pa5$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org>
In reply to#332862
On 13/11/2015 13:57, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> Desk Rabbit wrote:
>
>> On 13/11/2015 11:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>> Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 13/11/2015 00:33, Fabian Russell wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 23:24:57 +0000, owl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doesn't 7 use it to optimize SQL queries?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you speak of that junk known as LINQ, or language integrated
>>>>> query, that is a part of Microsoft .NET?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah you mean that Microsoft Language that the leading Linux distributor
>>>> (Red Hat) is falling over backwards to include support for?
>>>
>>> It is somewhat different. MS needs linux support for its cloud
>>>
>>
>> Errr, no, wrong. Azure has supported the running of Linux virtual
>> machines for a long time, this is about running .NET apps on Red Hat Linux
>
> Wrong
>

Yes you are and your response is completely unsubstantiated again. Which 
part of that would you like me to kick your arse on? Oh sod it, it's 
Friday, have a good arse kicking on both subjects.

Azure runs Linux Virtual Machines:
https://www.suse.com/promo/cloud/public/azure/?gclid=Cj0KEQiAsZayBRCrioKRkYetvc0BEiQAI70-Ay-XnJqT6SNy_9UCHCq3jN3OgyX8aceIVqHpez3KpDEaAh1J8P8HAQ

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/documentation/articles/virtual-machines-linux-endorsed-distributions/

Running .NET apps on Red Hat:

http://developerblog.redhat.com/2015/11/04/red-hat-microsoft-making-dot-net-on-linux-for-enterprises/

https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/microsoft-and-red-hat-deliver-new-standard-enterprise-cloud-experiences





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#332860

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-11-13 07:25 -0600
Message-ID<e5ob4b5rrod6fq8ikmnci6vmqi3612gs45@4ax.com>
In reply to#332852
Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> Desk Retard wrote:
>> 
>> Ah you mean that Microsoft Language that the leading Linux distributor
>> (Red Hat) is falling over backwards to include support for?
>
>It is somewhat different. MS needs linux support for its cloud

Nothing wrong with taking Micro$oft's money, as long as it's not is
support of their desktop monopoly, and does not compromise software
Freedom.

-- 
'So Linux arbitrarily assigns sequential letters to drives (hda, hdb,
hdc...).  How "fucking pointless and moronic".'  -  DumFSck

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#332890

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-13 11:48 -0500
Message-ID<n2544b$k86$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#332860
On 2015-11-13 8:25 AM, chrisv wrote:
> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> 
>> Desk Retard wrote:
>>>
>>> Ah you mean that Microsoft Language that the leading Linux distributor
>>> (Red Hat) is falling over backwards to include support for?
>>
>> It is somewhat different. MS needs linux support for its cloud
> 
> Nothing wrong with taking Micro$oft's money, as long as it's not is
> support of their desktop monopoly, and does not compromise software
> Freedom.

Meanwhile, you don't take any of their money, you only give them some by
using their product, cumstainv.

-- 
Slimer

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#332900

FromDesk Rabbit <me@example.com>
Date2015-11-13 17:09 +0000
Message-ID<n255bn$qed$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org>
In reply to#332890
On 13/11/2015 16:48, Slimer wrote:
> On 2015-11-13 8:25 AM, chrisv wrote:
>> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>
>>> Desk Retard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ah you mean that Microsoft Language that the leading Linux distributor
>>>> (Red Hat) is falling over backwards to include support for?
>>>
>>> It is somewhat different. MS needs linux support for its cloud
>>
>> Nothing wrong with taking Micro$oft's money, as long as it's not is
>> support of their desktop monopoly, and does not compromise software
>> Freedom.
>
> Meanwhile, you don't take any of their money, you only give them some by
> using their product, cumstainv.
>

Meanwhile, smart companies like ours that resell Microsoft Cloud 
services get paid commission by Microsoft.

That's why I drive a Mercedes (And nobody that works for me has a car 
that's older than two years), and blinkered operating system religion 
zealots like him use the bus.

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#332953

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-11-13 20:39 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.11.13.20.39.37@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#332900
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:09:21 +0000, Desk Rabbit wrote:

> 
> That's why I drive a Mercedes --
>

-- down streets and highways that are severely riddled with enormous
potholes and debris that will quickly wreck any suspension.

-- but I cannot leave it unattended for even a short length of time
without someone throwing a brick through the windows and absconding
with the GPS and music system.

Yes, you are definitely enjoying a quality of life that the rest
of us could never attain.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

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#332954

FromBig Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com>
Date2015-11-13 15:43 -0500
Message-ID<p1i6zg7bbfn3$.17zfjtv1mvcwl$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#332953
On 13 Nov 2015 20:39:31 GMT, Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:09:21 +0000, Desk Rabbit wrote:
> 
>> 
>> That's why I drive a Mercedes --
>>
> 
> -- down streets and highways that are severely riddled with enormous
> potholes and debris that will quickly wreck any suspension.
> 
> -- but I cannot leave it unattended for even a short length of time
> without someone throwing a brick through the windows and absconding
> with the GPS and music system.
> 
> Yes, you are definitely enjoying a quality of life that the rest
> of us could never attain.
> 
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Sounds like you live in a ghetto slum.
Typical of many Linux loons.

Is this your shack?

https://goo.gl/maps/ju35Vpskex22

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