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Who gives a shit about the Finder?

Started byNobody <nobody@invalid.com>
First post2015-08-29 14:27 -0500
Last post2015-09-06 18:03 -0500
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  Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-29 14:27 -0500
    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 19:56 +0000
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 13:09 -0700
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 07:28 +0000
          Snit was too droopy to answer... or was it because of his scurvy... Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:14 -0500
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:13 -0700
    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 13:09 -0700
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 07:34 +0000
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 07:48 +0000
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 09:57 +0200
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 08:49 +0000
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 08:56 +0000
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 09:41 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 11:47 +0200
                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 09:55 +0000
                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 12:06 +0200
                      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:16 +0000
                        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 13:47 +0200
                        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:34 -0700
                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:31 -0700
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 09:54 +0000
                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:02 +0000
                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 10:22 +0000
                      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:26 +0000
                        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 10:40 +0000
                          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-06 12:43 +0200
                          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:52 +0000
                            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 11:11 +0000
                              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 11:37 +0000
                                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 13:48 +0200
                                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:04 -0600
                                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 22:07 +0200
                                      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-07 21:37 -0600
                                        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-08 09:26 -0400
                                          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-08 15:36 +0200
                                          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-08 14:46 -0600
                                            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-08 20:05 -0400
                                              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-09 11:32 -0600
                                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 11:57 +0000
                                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 12:09 +0000
                                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 12:27 +0000
                                      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 12:31 +0000
                                        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:07 -0600
                                      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 16:50 +0200
                                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 08:44 -0500
                                      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:34 +0000
                                        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 09:38 -0500
                                          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:42 +0000
                                            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 09:47 -0500
                                              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:51 +0000
                                                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-06 10:53 -0400
                                                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:20 +0000
                                                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:31 -0500
                                                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-08 07:28 -0500
                                                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-08 14:47 -0600
                                                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:11 -0500
                                                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:33 +0000
                                                    Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:40 -0500
                                                      Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 16:02 +0000
                                                        Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 11:26 -0500
                                                          Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Tommy Troll <elkabong99@Itroll.org> - 2015-09-06 12:30 -0400
                                                            Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:10 -0600
                                                              Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 23:01 +0200
                                                                Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 01:53 +0000
                                                                Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-08 08:03 -0500
                                                                  Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-08 15:08 +0000
                                                                    Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-08 08:39 -0700
                                                                  Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-08 08:25 -0700
                                                              Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 23:57 +0000
                                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:44 -0700
                                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:43 -0700
                              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 13:45 +0200
                                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 11:50 +0000
                                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 12:02 +0000
                            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:42 -0700
                            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:04 -0600
                              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 22:05 +0200
                                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 18:20 -0500
                          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:37 -0700
                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:34 -0700
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:31 -0700
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:56 -0700
            He dunno, so I told him... Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 08:32 -0500
              He is nobody, so I told him... dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:40 +0000
                Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 09:46 -0500
                  Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:54 +0000
                    Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:07 -0500
                      Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:19 +0000
                        Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:30 -0500
                          Re: Hi Snit! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 17:39 +0200
                            Re: Hi Snit! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:49 -0700
                          Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:46 +0000
                            Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:55 -0500
                              Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 16:04 +0000
                                Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 11:24 -0500
                          Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:46 +0000
                            Re: Hi Snit! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 17:47 +0200
                              Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:58 -0500
                                Re: Hi Snit! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:50 -0700
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:26 -0700
              Snit is arguing with himself Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 12:34 -0500
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:25 -0700
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 12:40 -0500
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 20:41 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 21:45 +0200
                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 22:04 +0200
    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-29 20:21 +0000
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 13:31 -0700
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 00:34 +0000
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:44 -0700
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 03:02 -0500
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-30 08:44 +0000
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:09 -0700
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-30 20:48 +0200
                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 12:06 -0700
                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 20:49 +0000
                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 14:55 -0700
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:07 -0700
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-30 20:46 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:50 -0700
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-08-30 13:27 +0100
          Like you are as well, eh Dumb Willie? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-30 13:05 -0600
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-30 13:05 -0600
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 12:08 -0700
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 13:36 -0700
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-31 13:53 -0600
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 13:10 -0700
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-31 22:47 +0200
                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 13:50 -0700
                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-31 23:23 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-01 12:08 -0600
                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 11:14 -0700
    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:12 -0700
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 14:19 -0700
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:30 -0700
    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 00:33 +0000
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:44 -0700
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 03:08 -0500
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:09 -0700
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-31 20:32 -0500
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? "Drew P. Bawls" <drewpballs@nowhere2.net> - 2015-08-31 21:40 -0400
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 08:34 -0500
                  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 19:32 +0000
                    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 21:48 +0200
                      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 18:03 -0500

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#319299

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-06 12:27 +0000
Message-ID<fasmv9.3afu@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#319297
dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what
>>>>>>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>>>>>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
>>>>>>>>> kind of app it is.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try: 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>> Finder not found
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>>>>> $ uname -a
>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014     root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>> $ 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>>>> 
>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>>> 
>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
>>>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>>>> 
>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X
>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
>>>>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder?
>>>>>     
>>>> 
>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack.
>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path?
>> 
>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer
>>> you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find
>>> out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks
>>> in advance.
>> 
>> Hi Snit!
>> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
>> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It restarts it.

> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder without
> restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when you're restarting Finder.
> What are you arguing with, again?

Doesn't look like it restarts the whole GUI to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt0P2YT7VKg

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#319300

Fromdunno <dunno@dunno.dunno>
Date2015-09-06 12:31 +0000
Message-ID<mshbml$hft$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#319299
owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what
>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>>>>>>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
>>>>>>>>>> kind of app it is.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try: 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>> Finder not found
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>>>>>> $ uname -a
>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>>>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014    
>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>> $ 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
>>>>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
>>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X
>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
>>>>>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder?
>>>>>>     
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack.
>>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path?
>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer
>>>> you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find
>>>> out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks
>>>> in advance.
>>> 
>>> Hi Snit!
>>> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
>>> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It restarts it.
> 
>> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
>> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder without
>> restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when you're restarting Finder.
>> What are you arguing with, again?
> 
> Doesn't look like it restarts the whole GUI to me.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt0P2YT7VKg

You expected it to show you BSOD with some strange error code?

-- 
dunno

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#319390

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-09-06 14:07 -0600
Message-ID<EtOdnXUzZc-ZAHHInZ2dnUU7-YWdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#319300
On 09/06/15 06:31, dunno wrote:
> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody"<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
>>>>>>>>>>> kind of app it is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>> Finder not found
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>>>>>>> $ uname -a
>>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>>>>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014
>>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>> $
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
>>>>>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
>>>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
>>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X
>>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
>>>>>>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack.
>>>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path?
>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer
>>>>> you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find
>>>>> out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks
>>>>> in advance.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Snit!
>>>> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
>>>> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It restarts it.
>>
>>> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
>>> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>> restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when you're restarting Finder.
>>> What are you arguing with, again?
>>
>> Doesn't look like it restarts the whole GUI to me.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt0P2YT7VKg
>
> You expected it to show you BSOD with some strange error code?
>

Guffaw!!!  Why did you bring up BSOD now?
Out of context and you are in error.


-- 
When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old
Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you
could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the
bottom, and have a longer blanket."

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#319317

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-09-06 16:50 +0200
Message-ID<mshjnt$of9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#319299
owl wrote:

> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finder supposed to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Linux lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not lack them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> called "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restart Finder without restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine
>>>>>>>>>>>> and see what will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same
>>>>>>>>>>> thing will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can
>>>>>>>>>> see what kind of app it is.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>> Finder not found
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>>>>>> $ uname -a
>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov
>>>>>>> 11
>>>>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014    
>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64 $
>>>>>>> which Finder $
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
>>>>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
>>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X
>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think
>>>>>> system gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart
>>>>>> Finder?
>>>>>>     
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack.
>>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your
>>>>> path?
>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will
>>>> cheer you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you
>>>> to find out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal
>>>> processes. Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> Hi Snit!
>>> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
>>> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It restarts it.
> 
>> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
>> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder without
>> restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when you're restarting Finder.
>> What are you arguing with, again?
> 
> Doesn't look like it restarts the whole GUI to me.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt0P2YT7VKg

Because it doesn't. It is that simple

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#319304

FromNobody <nobody@invalid.com>
Date2015-09-06 08:44 -0500
Message-ID<mshg0b$7r7$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#319297
On 9/6/2015 7:09 AM, dunno wrote:
> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what
>>>>>>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>>>>>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
>>>>>>>>> kind of app it is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>> Finder not found
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>>>>> $ uname -a
>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014     root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>> $
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>>>>
>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>>>
>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
>>>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>>>>
>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X
>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
>>>>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack.
>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path?
>>
>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer
>>> you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find
>>> out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks
>>> in advance.
>>
>> Hi Snit!
>> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
>> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It restarts it.
>
> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder without
> restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when you're restarting Finder.
> What are you arguing with, again?

"What is the Finder?"

"The Finder is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and 
folders on your Mac."

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201732

Too bad you insulted owl.  It was already bad enough he knows more about 
your computer than you do, and he doesn't even have a Mac!

Ouch!

>> Why don't you read the links I gave you and learn how to use your
>> own operating system.  I don't have a Mack.  Don't want one.  I like
>> my Unix to be Unix.
>
>

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#319310

Fromdunno <dunno@dunno.dunno>
Date2015-09-06 14:34 +0000
Message-ID<mshiph$45h$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#319304
Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 9/6/2015 7:09 AM, dunno wrote:
>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what
>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>>>>>>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
>>>>>>>>>> kind of app it is.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>> Finder not found
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>>>>>> $ uname -a
>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>>>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014    
>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>> $
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
>>>>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
>>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X
>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
>>>>>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack.
>>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path?
>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer
>>>> you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find
>>>> out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks
>>>> in advance.
>>> 
>>> Hi Snit!
>>> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
>>> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It restarts it.
>> 
>> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
>> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder without
>> restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when you're restarting Finder.
>> What are you arguing with, again?
> 
> "What is the Finder?"
> 
> "The Finder is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and folders on your Mac."

"Windows is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and folders on
your PC."

> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201732
> 
> Too bad you insulted owl.  It was already bad enough he knows more about
> your computer than you do, and he doesn't even have a Mac!

Lol.

> Ouch!
> 
>>> Why don't you read the links I gave you and learn how to use your
>>> own operating system.  I don't have a Mack.  Don't want one.  I like
>>> my Unix to be Unix.
>> 
>> 


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#319312

FromNobody <nobody@invalid.com>
Date2015-09-06 09:38 -0500
Message-ID<mshj5r$dvi$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#319310
On 9/6/2015 9:34 AM, dunno wrote:
> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 9/6/2015 7:09 AM, dunno wrote:
>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
>>>>>>>>>>> kind of app it is.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>> Finder not found
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>>>>>>> $ uname -a
>>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>>>>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014
>>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>> $
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
>>>>>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
>>>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
>>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X
>>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
>>>>>>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack.
>>>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path?
>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer
>>>>> you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find
>>>>> out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks
>>>>> in advance.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Snit!
>>>> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
>>>> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It restarts it.
>>>
>>> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
>>> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>> restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when you're restarting Finder.
>>> What are you arguing with, again?
>>
>> "What is the Finder?"
>>
>> "The Finder is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and folders on your Mac."
>
> "Windows is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and folders on
> your PC."
>
>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201732
>>
>> Too bad you insulted owl.  It was already bad enough he knows more about
>> your computer than you do, and he doesn't even have a Mac!
>
> Lol.

Apparently humiliating yourself makes you laugh.

>> Ouch!
>>
>>>> Why don't you read the links I gave you and learn how to use your
>>>> own operating system.  I don't have a Mack.  Don't want one.  I like
>>>> my Unix to be Unix.
>>>
>>>
>
>

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#319314

Fromdunno <dunno@dunno.dunno>
Date2015-09-06 14:42 +0000
Message-ID<mshjaq$5mk$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#319312
Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 9/6/2015 9:34 AM, dunno wrote:
>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/6/2015 7:09 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of app it is.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>> Finder not found
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>>>>>>>> $ uname -a
>>>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>>>>>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014
>>>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>> $
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>>>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
>>>>>>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
>>>>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
>>>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X
>>>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
>>>>>>>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack.
>>>>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer
>>>>>> you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find
>>>>>> out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks
>>>>>> in advance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Snit!
>>>>> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
>>>>> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It restarts it.
>>>> 
>>>> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
>>>> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>> restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when you're restarting Finder.
>>>> What are you arguing with, again?
>>> 
>>> "What is the Finder?"
>>> 
>>> "The Finder is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and folders on your Mac."
>> 
>> "Windows is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and folders on
>> your PC."
>> 
>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201732
>>> 
>>> Too bad you insulted owl.  It was already bad enough he knows more about
>>> your computer than you do, and he doesn't even have a Mac!
>> 
>> Lol.
> 
> Apparently humiliating yourself makes you laugh.

Nah, it's just you. Good entertainment, though. Are you waiting for a tip?

>>> Ouch!
>>> 
>>>>> Why don't you read the links I gave you and learn how to use your
>>>>> own operating system.  I don't have a Mack.  Don't want one.  I like
>>>>> my Unix to be Unix.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 


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#319316

FromNobody <nobody@invalid.com>
Date2015-09-06 09:47 -0500
Message-ID<mshjm7$dvi$4@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#319314
On 9/6/2015 9:42 AM, dunno wrote:
> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 9/6/2015 9:34 AM, dunno wrote:
>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/6/2015 7:09 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of app it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>>> Finder not found
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>>>>>>>>> $ uname -a
>>>>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>>>>>>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014
>>>>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>> $
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>>>>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
>>>>>>>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
>>>>>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
>>>>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X
>>>>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
>>>>>>>>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack.
>>>>>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer
>>>>>>> you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find
>>>>>>> out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks
>>>>>>> in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Snit!
>>>>>> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
>>>>>> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It restarts it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
>>>>> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>> restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when you're restarting Finder.
>>>>> What are you arguing with, again?
>>>>
>>>> "What is the Finder?"
>>>>
>>>> "The Finder is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and folders on your Mac."
>>>
>>> "Windows is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and folders on
>>> your PC."
>>>
>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201732
>>>>
>>>> Too bad you insulted owl.  It was already bad enough he knows more about
>>>> your computer than you do, and he doesn't even have a Mac!
>>>
>>> Lol.
>>
>> Apparently humiliating yourself makes you laugh.
>
> Nah, it's just you. Good entertainment, though. Are you waiting for a tip?

Your humiliation deepens.

>>>> Ouch!
>>>>
>>>>>> Why don't you read the links I gave you and learn how to use your
>>>>>> own operating system.  I don't have a Mack.  Don't want one.  I like
>>>>>> my Unix to be Unix.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

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#319318

Fromdunno <dunno@dunno.dunno>
Date2015-09-06 14:51 +0000
Message-ID<mshju1$7jm$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#319316
Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 9/6/2015 9:42 AM, dunno wrote:
>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/6/2015 9:34 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 9/6/2015 7:09 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of app it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>> Finder not found
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>>>>>>>>>> $ uname -a
>>>>>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>>>>>>>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014
>>>>>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>>> $
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>>>>>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
>>>>>>>>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
>>>>>>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
>>>>>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X
>>>>>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
>>>>>>>>>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack.
>>>>>>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer
>>>>>>>> you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find
>>>>>>>> out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks
>>>>>>>> in advance.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Snit!
>>>>>>> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
>>>>>>> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It restarts it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
>>>>>> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>> restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when you're restarting Finder.
>>>>>> What are you arguing with, again?
>>>>> 
>>>>> "What is the Finder?"
>>>>> 
>>>>> "The Finder is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and
>>>>> folders on your Mac."
>>>> 
>>>> "Windows is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and folders on
>>>> your PC."
>>>> 
>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201732
>>>>> 
>>>>> Too bad you insulted owl.  It was already bad enough he knows more about
>>>>> your computer than you do, and he doesn't even have a Mac!
>>>> 
>>>> Lol.
>>> 
>>> Apparently humiliating yourself makes you laugh.
>> 
>> Nah, it's just you. Good entertainment, though. Are you waiting for a tip?
> 
> Your humiliation deepens.

So how deep do you feel it? Do you want to talk about it?

>>>>> Ouch!
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why don't you read the links I gave you and learn how to use your
>>>>>>> own operating system.  I don't have a Mack.  Don't want one.  I like
>>>>>>> my Unix to be Unix.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 


-- 
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#319320

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2015-09-06 10:53 -0400
Message-ID<mshk0o$psj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#319318
dunno wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 9/6/2015 9:42 AM, dunno wrote:
>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:34 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 7:09 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:

When I see something like that, I move to the next post.  Jeezus, what a lot
of yammering!

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#319327

Fromdunno <dunno@dunno.dunno>
Date2015-09-06 15:20 +0000
Message-ID<mshlj0$bpm$2@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#319320
Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> dunno wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/6/2015 9:42 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:34 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 7:09 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
> When I see something like that, I move to the next post.  Jeezus, what a lot
> of yammering!

I guess this one was really deep.

-- 
dunno

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#319329

FromNobody <nobody@invalid.com>
Date2015-09-06 10:31 -0500
Message-ID<mshm7t$l9v$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#319327
On 9/6/2015 10:20 AM, dunno wrote:
> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>> dunno wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:42 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:34 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 7:09 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>
>> When I see something like that, I move to the next post.  Jeezus, what a lot
>> of yammering!
>
> I guess this one was really deep.

How's it hanging, Droopy?

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#319601

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-09-08 07:28 -0500
Message-ID<dnktua5rf8qeks1cd3b7tgp8htm17voqpo@4ax.com>
In reply to#319320
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>
>When I see something like that, I move to the next post.  Jeezus, what a lot
>of yammering!

3 of those 4 are plonked, here.  

I'm contemplating plonking Nobody.  For now I'm still selecting and
deleting all of his weekend posts.  Well over 100 again this weekend!

-- 
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necessary by elected committee and then YOU have the choice."  -  "OSS
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#319740

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-09-08 14:47 -0600
Message-ID<7YOdnZefqI3a1HLInZ2dnUU7-WmdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#319601
On 09/08/15 06:28, chrisv wrote:
> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>
>> When I see something like that, I move to the next post.  Jeezus, what a lot
>> of yammering!
>
> 3 of those 4 are plonked, here.
>
> I'm contemplating plonking Nobody.  For now I'm still selecting and
> deleting all of his weekend posts.  Well over 100 again this weekend!
>
And reading them all of course.  How else could you select and delete 
without reading them, Turdv?


-- 
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Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you
could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the
bottom, and have a longer blanket."

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#319323

FromNobody <nobody@invalid.com>
Date2015-09-06 10:11 -0500
Message-ID<mshl2n$iv7$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#319318
On 9/6/2015 9:51 AM, dunno wrote:
> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 9/6/2015 9:42 AM, dunno wrote:
>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:34 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 7:09 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of app it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finder not found
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>>>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>>>>>>>>>>> $ uname -a
>>>>>>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>>>>>>>>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014
>>>>>>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>>>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>> $
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>>>>>>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
>>>>>>>>>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
>>>>>>>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
>>>>>>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X
>>>>>>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
>>>>>>>>>>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack.
>>>>>>>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer
>>>>>>>>> you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find
>>>>>>>>> out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks
>>>>>>>>> in advance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Snit!
>>>>>>>> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
>>>>>>>> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It restarts it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
>>>>>>> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when you're restarting Finder.
>>>>>>> What are you arguing with, again?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "What is the Finder?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The Finder is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and
>>>>>> folders on your Mac."
>>>>>
>>>>> "Windows is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and folders on
>>>>> your PC."
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201732
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Too bad you insulted owl.  It was already bad enough he knows more about
>>>>>> your computer than you do, and he doesn't even have a Mac!
>>>>>
>>>>> Lol.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently humiliating yourself makes you laugh.
>>>
>>> Nah, it's just you. Good entertainment, though. Are you waiting for a tip?
>>
>> Your humiliation deepens.
>
> So how deep do you feel it?

Do I have empathy for you?   No, not really, Droopy.

> Do you want to talk about it?

Sure, keep on self-deprecating.

>>>>>> Ouch!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why don't you read the links I gave you and learn how to use your
>>>>>>>> own operating system.  I don't have a Mack.  Don't want one.  I like
>>>>>>>> my Unix to be Unix.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

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#319330

Fromdunno <dunno@dunno.dunno>
Date2015-09-06 15:33 +0000
Message-ID<mshmbo$dik$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#319323
Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 9/6/2015 9:51 AM, dunno wrote:
>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/6/2015 9:42 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:34 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 7:09 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of app it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finder not found
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ uname -a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014
>>>>>>>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>> $
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
>>>>>>>>>>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
>>>>>>>>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
>>>>>>>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X
>>>>>>>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
>>>>>>>>>>>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack.
>>>>>>>>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer
>>>>>>>>>> you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find
>>>>>>>>>> out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> in advance.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Snit!
>>>>>>>>> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
>>>>>>>>> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It restarts it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
>>>>>>>> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when you're restarting Finder.
>>>>>>>> What are you arguing with, again?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "What is the Finder?"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "The Finder is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and
>>>>>>> folders on your Mac."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Windows is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and folders on
>>>>>> your PC."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201732
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Too bad you insulted owl.  It was already bad enough he knows more about
>>>>>>> your computer than you do, and he doesn't even have a Mac!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apparently humiliating yourself makes you laugh.
>>>> 
>>>> Nah, it's just you. Good entertainment, though. Are you waiting for a tip?
>>> 
>>> Your humiliation deepens.
>> 
>> So how deep do you feel it?
> 
> Do I have empathy for you?   No, not really, Droopy.

"Empathy" is a very loose term for the guy who likes it to be deep.

>> Do you want to talk about it?
> 
> Sure, keep on self-deprecating.

But you do talk about it, aren't you?

>>>>>>> Ouch!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Why don't you read the links I gave you and learn how to use your
>>>>>>>>> own operating system.  I don't have a Mack.  Don't want one.  I like
>>>>>>>>> my Unix to be Unix.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 


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#319332 — Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!

FromNobody <nobody@invalid.com>
Date2015-09-06 10:40 -0500
SubjectSnit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!
Message-ID<mshmos$mg8$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#319330
On 9/6/2015 10:33 AM, dunno wrote:
> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 9/6/2015 9:51 AM, dunno wrote:
>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:42 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:34 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 7:09 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of app it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finder not found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ uname -a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
>>>>>>>>>>>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
>>>>>>>>>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
>>>>>>>>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X
>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer
>>>>>>>>>>> you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find
>>>>>>>>>>> out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> in advance.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Snit!
>>>>>>>>>> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
>>>>>>>>>> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It restarts it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
>>>>>>>>> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when you're restarting Finder.
>>>>>>>>> What are you arguing with, again?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "What is the Finder?"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The Finder is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and
>>>>>>>> folders on your Mac."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Windows is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and folders on
>>>>>>> your PC."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201732
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Too bad you insulted owl.  It was already bad enough he knows more about
>>>>>>>> your computer than you do, and he doesn't even have a Mac!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently humiliating yourself makes you laugh.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nah, it's just you. Good entertainment, though. Are you waiting for a tip?
>>>>
>>>> Your humiliation deepens.
>>>
>>> So how deep do you feel it?
>>
>> Do I have empathy for you?   No, not really, Droopy.
>
> "Empathy" is a very loose term for the guy who likes it to be deep.

No it's not, Michael Glasser.   You're using yet another of your socks 
to post sexually harassing insults.  It's a dead giveaway every time 
your socks do this.

>>> Do you want to talk about it?
>>
>> Sure, keep on self-deprecating.
>
> But you do talk about it, aren't you?

Talk about your self-humiliation?  Of course.

>>>>>>>> Ouch!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you read the links I gave you and learn how to use your
>>>>>>>>>> own operating system.  I don't have a Mack.  Don't want one.  I like
>>>>>>>>>> my Unix to be Unix.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

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#319343 — Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!

Fromdunno <dunno@dunno.dunno>
Date2015-09-06 16:02 +0000
SubjectRe: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!
Message-ID<msho1r$hms$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#319332
Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 9/6/2015 10:33 AM, dunno wrote:
>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/6/2015 9:51 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:42 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:34 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 7:09 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of app it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finder not found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ uname -a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer
>>>>>>>>>>>> you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find
>>>>>>>>>>>> out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>> in advance.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Snit!
>>>>>>>>>>> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
>>>>>>>>>>> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It restarts it.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
>>>>>>>>>> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when you're restarting Finder.
>>>>>>>>>> What are you arguing with, again?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "What is the Finder?"
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "The Finder is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and
>>>>>>>>> folders on your Mac."
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "Windows is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and folders on
>>>>>>>> your PC."
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201732
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Too bad you insulted owl.  It was already bad enough he knows more about
>>>>>>>>> your computer than you do, and he doesn't even have a Mac!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apparently humiliating yourself makes you laugh.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nah, it's just you. Good entertainment, though. Are you waiting for a tip?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your humiliation deepens.
>>>> 
>>>> So how deep do you feel it?
>>> 
>>> Do I have empathy for you?   No, not really, Droopy.
>> 
>> "Empathy" is a very loose term for the guy who likes it to be deep.
> 
> No it's not, Michael Glasser.   You're using yet another of your socks to
> post sexually harassing insults.  It's a dead giveaway every time your socks do this.

It probably should be a very comfortable thought that Snit is the only one
to disagree with you. Anyway, I think this is good sign for you. You should
be eligible for free medical treatment, moreover, any doctor looking at
your actions would prescribe one for you.

>>>> Do you want to talk about it?
>>> 
>>> Sure, keep on self-deprecating.
>> 
>> But you do talk about it, aren't you?
> 
> Talk about your self-humiliation?  Of course.
> 
>>>>>>>>> Ouch!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you read the links I gave you and learn how to use your
>>>>>>>>>>> own operating system.  I don't have a Mack.  Don't want one.  I like
>>>>>>>>>>> my Unix to be Unix.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 


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#319347 — Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!

FromNobody <nobody@invalid.com>
Date2015-09-06 11:26 -0500
SubjectRe: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again!
Message-ID<mshpfc$re4$3@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#319343
On 9/6/2015 11:02 AM, dunno wrote:
> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 9/6/2015 10:33 AM, dunno wrote:
>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:51 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:42 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 9:34 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/2015 7:09 AM, dunno wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kind of app it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder`
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finder not found
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mack really returns that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ uname -a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point you to it?  And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in advance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Snit!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does Mack come with RTFM?  Apparently not!
>>>>>>>>>>>> Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius.  It restarts it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not!
>>>>>>>>>>> Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when you're restarting Finder.
>>>>>>>>>>> What are you arguing with, again?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "What is the Finder?"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "The Finder is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and
>>>>>>>>>> folders on your Mac."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Windows is the app that helps you navigate all of the files and folders on
>>>>>>>>> your PC."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201732
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Too bad you insulted owl.  It was already bad enough he knows more about
>>>>>>>>>> your computer than you do, and he doesn't even have a Mac!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lol.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apparently humiliating yourself makes you laugh.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nah, it's just you. Good entertainment, though. Are you waiting for a tip?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your humiliation deepens.
>>>>>
>>>>> So how deep do you feel it?
>>>>
>>>> Do I have empathy for you?   No, not really, Droopy.
>>>
>>> "Empathy" is a very loose term for the guy who likes it to be deep.
>>
>> No it's not, Michael Glasser.   You're using yet another of your socks to
>> post sexually harassing insults.  It's a dead giveaway every time your socks do this.
>
> It probably should be a very comfortable thought that Snit is the only one
> to disagree with you. Anyway, I think this is good sign for you. You should
> be eligible for free medical treatment, moreover, any doctor looking at
> your actions would prescribe one for you.

You might as well have posted that as "Micheal Glasser."  It's that obvious.

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