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  Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-26 12:37 +0000
    Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-26 19:45 -0400
      Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-26 23:56 +0000
        Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-26 20:29 -0400
          Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-27 01:03 +0000
            Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-27 07:24 -0500
              Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-27 08:16 -0500
              Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 15:53 +0000
              Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-27 12:13 -0400
      Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 00:57 +0000
        Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> - 2018-09-26 21:04 -0400
          Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 15:41 +0000
            Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 20:25 +0000
              Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 22:29 +0000
                Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 04:31 +0000
                  Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 18:06 +0000
                    Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 22:22 +0000
                      Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-29 01:12 +0000
                        Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-09-29 01:21 +0000
                        Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-28 20:30 -0700
          Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 20:23 +0000
        Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 20:22 +0000
          Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 22:27 +0000
            Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 04:25 +0000
              Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 18:05 +0000
                Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-09-28 20:25 +0000
                  Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 22:19 +0000
                    Re: Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-09-28 22:23 +0000

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#468844 — Pan takes forever to open, never closes properly

Truly a piece of crap... just saying. :)

-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#468978

On 9/26/2018 8:37 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:

> Truly a piece of crap... just saying. :)


Why not (heh) slrn?  You should really wrap your arms around Linux and 
embrace the 70s and 80s.  Like owl does.

Does the current Pan have context-sensitive menus?  Last I checked they 
had barely implemented them (meaning most menu choices were available at 
all times).  Real impressive.

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#468984

DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 9/26/2018 8:37 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> 
>> Truly a piece of crap... just saying. :)
> 
> 
> Why not (heh) slrn?  You should really wrap your arms around Linux and 
> embrace the 70s and 80s.  Like owl does.
> 

Things have not gotten better over time, DFS.  Just different, and
worse in a lot of ways.


> Does the current Pan have context-sensitive menus?  Last I checked they 
> had barely implemented them (meaning most menu choices were available at 
> all times).  Real impressive.
> 

How they gonna target the advertising without that?!

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#468990

On 9/26/2018 7:56 PM, owl wrote:
> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On 9/26/2018 8:37 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>
>>> Truly a piece of crap... just saying. :)
>>
>>
>> Why not (heh) slrn?  You should really wrap your arms around Linux and
>> embrace the 70s and 80s.  Like owl does.
>>
> 
> Things have not gotten better over time, DFS.  


Keep a PMA, baby!  Positive Mental Attitude.

One thing DID get better: it was a momentous day in my life when my 
first set of urethane skateboard wheels with sealed bearings arrived in 
the mail, all the way from Southern Cal as I recall.



> Just different, and worse in a lot of ways.


things?  Linux things or life things or United States things or world 
things?

Truth is, I pine for the US of a decade I never experienced: the 50s. 
Adding the music of the 60s and 70s would be real nice!



>> Does the current Pan have context-sensitive menus?  Last I checked they
>> had barely implemented them (meaning most menu choices were available at
>> all times).  Real impressive.
>>
> 
> How they gonna target the advertising without that?!

?

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#469001

DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 9/26/2018 7:56 PM, owl wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/26/2018 8:37 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Truly a piece of crap... just saying. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Why not (heh) slrn?  You should really wrap your arms around Linux and
>>> embrace the 70s and 80s.  Like owl does.
>>>
>> 
>> Things have not gotten better over time, DFS.  
> 
> 
> Keep a PMA, baby!  Positive Mental Attitude.
> 
> One thing DID get better: it was a momentous day in my life when my 
> first set of urethane skateboard wheels with sealed bearings arrived in 
> the mail, all the way from Southern Cal as I recall.
> 
> 
> 
>> Just different, and worse in a lot of ways.
> 
> 
> things?  Linux things or life things or United States things or world 
> things?
> 

Well, I was talking of computer things, but now that you mention it,
most of society sucks these days.


> Truth is, I pine for the US of a decade I never experienced: the 50s. 
> Adding the music of the 60s and 70s would be real nice!
> 
>

I'm partial to the twenties.  Art deco architecture and interior design;
cute flappers and gorgeous silent film actresses; badass cars.  Everything
was awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGAJwHeRhuk

https://www.picclickimg.com/d/w1600/pict/142866285417_/Flapper-Women-Girls-Swimsuits-Photo-early-1925-Flappers.jpg

http://www.lovethispic.com/uploaded_images/18286-Roaring-Twenties-Flapper.jpg

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#469035

owl wrote:

> Dumfsck wrote:
>>
>> owl wrote:
>>> 
>>> Things have not gotten better over time, DFS.  
>>> 
>>> Just different, and worse in a lot of ways.

Indeed.  I don't know what we're doing today that's so great, that we
couldn't do 20 years ago, despite the fact that we are now using
multi-core CPU's running at multi-GHz rates, and 1000x (!) the memory.
 
>> things?  Linux things or life things or United States things or world 
>> things?
>
>Well, I was talking of computer things, but now that you mention it,
>most of society sucks these days.

That too.  Maybe I just have a bad attitude, but I often find myself
thinking "everything just keeps getting worse, nothing ever improves."

Well, I do like HDTV, and some other modern improvements...

-- 
"You Linux/OSS wackjobs should be held liable for spreading viruses
and malware across the world, via your sendmail and postfix crapware."
-  some dumb fsck

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#469043

chrisv wrote:

> I do like HDTV, and some other modern improvements...

I have to admit that smart phones are pretty fscking cool, too.  Even
though I don't own one.

-- 
"...because they know that in comparison to a contemporary product,
they would be just like XP:  no longer really competitive."  -  lying
asshole -hh"

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#469073

On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 07:24:25 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> owl wrote:
> 
>> Dumfsck wrote:
>>>
>>> owl wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Things have not gotten better over time, DFS.
>>>> 
>>>> Just different, and worse in a lot of ways.
> 
> Indeed.  I don't know what we're doing today that's so great, that we
> couldn't do 20 years ago, despite the fact that we are now using
> multi-core CPU's running at multi-GHz rates, and 1000x (!) the memory.

I know that my 2000 machine could only barely decode DVD discs (P3-533) 
whereas today's machines do so effortlessly. I guess that's one thing. I 
imagine that the biggest benefits are specific to media.
  
>>> things?  Linux things or life things or United States things or world
>>> things?
>>
>>Well, I was talking of computer things, but now that you mention it,
>>most of society sucks these days.
> 
> That too.  Maybe I just have a bad attitude, but I often find myself
> thinking "everything just keeps getting worse, nothing ever improves."
> 
> Well, I do like HDTV, and some other modern improvements...

4k is very nice albeit useless if you don't have a subscription to a 
service that actually pushes out content at that resolution. As it is, OTA 
is either 720p or 1080i, sometimes 480i. Cable is generally 1080i as well 
with a specialty channel or two added for a 4k presentation of an 
occasional sports match. Netflix, as far as I know, is the only service 
consistently pushing out 4k video and some gaming consoles manage to 
display it on some games as well. Whether it actually improves the gaming 
experience is another matter though.



-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#469080

On 9/27/2018 8:24 AM, gloomyv wrote:


> I often find myself thinking "everything just keeps getting worse,
> nothing ever improves."


JHC turd.  Take some Zoloft.  Or neck yourself - that would be an 
improvement to cola.  No more mentally ill shitv rants.

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#468995

On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:45:04 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 9/26/2018 8:37 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> 
>> Truly a piece of crap... just saying. :)
> 
> 
> Why not (heh) slrn?  You should really wrap your arms around Linux and
> embrace the 70s and 80s.  Like owl does.
> 
> Does the current Pan have context-sensitive menus?  Last I checked they
> had barely implemented them (meaning most menu choices were available at
> all times).  Real impressive.

I don't know what happened to my own setup of Pan but it really does ake 
a while to load and often treats posts I've read as unread even though it 
shows that they've been downloaded. It's still usable though. 

As for things like slrn, I'm sure I would have adopted software like that 
and alpine if I used modest hardware like what I had back in the day but 
nowadays, it just seems pointless. I doubt it would allow me to do 
anything better.

-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#469002

On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:57:49 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:45:04 -0400, DFS wrote:
> 
>> On 9/26/2018 8:37 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> 
>>> Truly a piece of crap... just saying. :)
>> 
>> 
>> Why not (heh) slrn?  You should really wrap your arms around Linux and
>> embrace the 70s and 80s.  Like owl does.
>> 
>> Does the current Pan have context-sensitive menus?  Last I checked they
>> had barely implemented them (meaning most menu choices were available at
>> all times).  Real impressive.
> 
> I don't know what happened to my own setup of Pan but it really does ake 
> a while to load and often treats posts I've read as unread even though it 
> shows that they've been downloaded. It's still usable though. 
> 
> As for things like slrn, I'm sure I would have adopted software like that 
> and alpine if I used modest hardware like what I had back in the day but 
> nowadays, it just seems pointless. I doubt it would allow me to do 
> anything better.

Pan is complete crap.
How many times do you load it up and it doesn't even d/l new messages but
then you restart it and the new messages suddenly appear?

Complete garbage.

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#469064

On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 21:04:30 -0400, Sam O'Nella wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:57:49 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:45:04 -0400, DFS wrote:
>> 
>>> On 9/26/2018 8:37 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Truly a piece of crap... just saying. :)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Why not (heh) slrn?  You should really wrap your arms around Linux and
>>> embrace the 70s and 80s.  Like owl does.
>>> 
>>> Does the current Pan have context-sensitive menus?  Last I checked
>>> they had barely implemented them (meaning most menu choices were
>>> available at all times).  Real impressive.
>> 
>> I don't know what happened to my own setup of Pan but it really does
>> ake a while to load and often treats posts I've read as unread even
>> though it shows that they've been downloaded. It's still usable though.
>> 
>> As for things like slrn, I'm sure I would have adopted software like
>> that and alpine if I used modest hardware like what I had back in the
>> day but nowadays, it just seems pointless. I doubt it would allow me to
>> do anything better.
> 
> Pan is complete crap.
> How many times do you load it up and it doesn't even d/l new messages
> but then you restart it and the new messages suddenly appear?
> 
> Complete garbage.

Yeah, it's not too great but it gets the job done in the end. I also 
think it's the only Usenet reader I've used which loads the 2-bit images 
some posters have attached to their Usenet identities. 



-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#469153

On 2018-09-27, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>
> Yeah, it's not too great but it gets the job done in the end. I also 
> think it's the only Usenet reader I've used which loads the 2-bit images 
> some posters have attached to their Usenet identities. 

Pan was the closest I could get to XNews when I left Windows and it's 
definitely not "crap." It uses a good filter system and does a good job with 
quotes.

-- 
The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.

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#469171

On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:25:19 +0000, RonB wrote:

> On 2018-09-27, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, it's not too great but it gets the job done in the end. I also
>> think it's the only Usenet reader I've used which loads the 2-bit
>> images some posters have attached to their Usenet identities.
> 
> Pan was the closest I could get to XNews when I left Windows and it's
> definitely not "crap." It uses a good filter system and does a good job
> with quotes.

I actually disagree about the filter system. So far, it's the worst and 
least intuitive I've come across since the function, in the software 
itself, seems broken and you have to edit the config file on your own. Of 
course, you have to understand _how_ to edit it as well and lucky for me, 
Fabian Russell and Steve Carroll helped me out quite a bit with that. 

Thunderbird is a _lot_ better than Pan for Usenet but I'm not much in 
favour of using Mozilla software.



-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#469210

On 2018-09-27, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:25:19 +0000, RonB wrote:
>
>> On 2018-09-27, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, it's not too great but it gets the job done in the end. I also
>>> think it's the only Usenet reader I've used which loads the 2-bit
>>> images some posters have attached to their Usenet identities.
>> 
>> Pan was the closest I could get to XNews when I left Windows and it's
>> definitely not "crap." It uses a good filter system and does a good job
>> with quotes.
>
> I actually disagree about the filter system. So far, it's the worst and 
> least intuitive I've come across since the function, in the software 
> itself, seems broken and you have to edit the config file on your own. Of 
> course, you have to understand _how_ to edit it as well and lucky for me, 
> Fabian Russell and Steve Carroll helped me out quite a bit with that. 
>
> Thunderbird is a _lot_ better than Pan for Usenet but I'm not much in 
> favour of using Mozilla software.

I completely disagree about Thunderbird and Usenet. I thought it was 
terrible. Mangled quotes, hard (for me) to use. And what I really disliked 
about it is that I once mistakenly sent out a personal email respone over my 
Usenet account. (Heartfelt letter to my younger brother who, at the time, 
was strugglng with addiction. I've seen others do something similar.) That 
was the last time I ever used Thunderbird for Usenet. Since then I've always 
used something specifically designed for newsgroups, basically Xnews (then 
Xnews under Wine), then Pan, then slrn.

That said, choice is good. Use what you're comfortable with. I'm not sure 
why you don't want to use Mozilla software, but I'm sure there's a reason.

-- 
The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.

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#469294

On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 04:31:44 +0000, RonB wrote:

> On 2018-09-27, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:25:19 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-09-27, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, it's not too great but it gets the job done in the end. I also
>>>> think it's the only Usenet reader I've used which loads the 2-bit
>>>> images some posters have attached to their Usenet identities.
>>> 
>>> Pan was the closest I could get to XNews when I left Windows and it's
>>> definitely not "crap." It uses a good filter system and does a good
>>> job with quotes.
>>
>> I actually disagree about the filter system. So far, it's the worst and
>> least intuitive I've come across since the function, in the software
>> itself, seems broken and you have to edit the config file on your own.
>> Of course, you have to understand _how_ to edit it as well and lucky
>> for me,
>> Fabian Russell and Steve Carroll helped me out quite a bit with that.
>>
>> Thunderbird is a _lot_ better than Pan for Usenet but I'm not much in
>> favour of using Mozilla software.
> 
> I completely disagree about Thunderbird and Usenet. I thought it was
> terrible. Mangled quotes, hard (for me) to use. And what I really
> disliked about it is that I once mistakenly sent out a personal email
> respone over my Usenet account. (Heartfelt letter to my younger brother
> who, at the time, was strugglng with addiction. I've seen others do
> something similar.) That was the last time I ever used Thunderbird for
> Usenet. Since then I've always used something specifically designed for
> newsgroups, basically Xnews (then Xnews under Wine), then Pan, then
> slrn.
> 
> That said, choice is good. Use what you're comfortable with. I'm not
> sure why you don't want to use Mozilla software, but I'm sure there's a
> reason.

Mozilla = social justice warrior advocates who got rid of Brendan Eich 
because he had donated to an organization which was against abortion and 
donated to Antifa. Good points about Thunderbird though and I have to 
admit that I faced the same. It's one of the reasons I use Evolution over 
Thunderbird for e-mail.

-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#469347

On 2018-09-28, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 04:31:44 +0000, RonB wrote:
>
>> On 2018-09-27, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:25:19 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-09-27, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, it's not too great but it gets the job done in the end. I also
>>>>> think it's the only Usenet reader I've used which loads the 2-bit
>>>>> images some posters have attached to their Usenet identities.
>>>> 
>>>> Pan was the closest I could get to XNews when I left Windows and it's
>>>> definitely not "crap." It uses a good filter system and does a good
>>>> job with quotes.
>>>
>>> I actually disagree about the filter system. So far, it's the worst and
>>> least intuitive I've come across since the function, in the software
>>> itself, seems broken and you have to edit the config file on your own.
>>> Of course, you have to understand _how_ to edit it as well and lucky
>>> for me,
>>> Fabian Russell and Steve Carroll helped me out quite a bit with that.
>>>
>>> Thunderbird is a _lot_ better than Pan for Usenet but I'm not much in
>>> favour of using Mozilla software.
>> 
>> I completely disagree about Thunderbird and Usenet. I thought it was
>> terrible. Mangled quotes, hard (for me) to use. And what I really
>> disliked about it is that I once mistakenly sent out a personal email
>> respone over my Usenet account. (Heartfelt letter to my younger brother
>> who, at the time, was strugglng with addiction. I've seen others do
>> something similar.) That was the last time I ever used Thunderbird for
>> Usenet. Since then I've always used something specifically designed for
>> newsgroups, basically Xnews (then Xnews under Wine), then Pan, then
>> slrn.
>> 
>> That said, choice is good. Use what you're comfortable with. I'm not
>> sure why you don't want to use Mozilla software, but I'm sure there's a
>> reason.
>
> Mozilla = social justice warrior advocates who got rid of Brendan Eich 
> because he had donated to an organization which was against abortion and 
> donated to Antifa. Good points about Thunderbird though and I have to 
> admit that I faced the same. It's one of the reasons I use Evolution over 
> Thunderbird for e-mail.

Yeah, that's true, but pretty soon that's going to be just about every 
corporation. The blackmail and extortion racket is pervasive and the 
screeching mobs see no ethical delimma in doing "whatever it takes." Exactly 
the same mindset of those attacking Kavanaugh (probably controlled by the 
same slime).

-- 
The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.

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#469369

On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 22:22:09 +0000, RonB wrote:

> On 2018-09-28, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 04:31:44 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-09-27, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:25:19 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2018-09-27, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, it's not too great but it gets the job done in the end. I
>>>>>> also think it's the only Usenet reader I've used which loads the
>>>>>> 2-bit images some posters have attached to their Usenet identities.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pan was the closest I could get to XNews when I left Windows and
>>>>> it's definitely not "crap." It uses a good filter system and does a
>>>>> good job with quotes.
>>>>
>>>> I actually disagree about the filter system. So far, it's the worst
>>>> and least intuitive I've come across since the function, in the
>>>> software itself, seems broken and you have to edit the config file on
>>>> your own. Of course, you have to understand _how_ to edit it as well
>>>> and lucky for me,
>>>> Fabian Russell and Steve Carroll helped me out quite a bit with that.
>>>>
>>>> Thunderbird is a _lot_ better than Pan for Usenet but I'm not much in
>>>> favour of using Mozilla software.
>>> 
>>> I completely disagree about Thunderbird and Usenet. I thought it was
>>> terrible. Mangled quotes, hard (for me) to use. And what I really
>>> disliked about it is that I once mistakenly sent out a personal email
>>> respone over my Usenet account. (Heartfelt letter to my younger
>>> brother who, at the time, was strugglng with addiction. I've seen
>>> others do something similar.) That was the last time I ever used
>>> Thunderbird for Usenet. Since then I've always used something
>>> specifically designed for newsgroups, basically Xnews (then Xnews
>>> under Wine), then Pan, then slrn.
>>> 
>>> That said, choice is good. Use what you're comfortable with. I'm not
>>> sure why you don't want to use Mozilla software, but I'm sure there's
>>> a reason.
>>
>> Mozilla = social justice warrior advocates who got rid of Brendan Eich
>> because he had donated to an organization which was against abortion
>> and donated to Antifa. Good points about Thunderbird though and I have
>> to admit that I faced the same. It's one of the reasons I use Evolution
>> over Thunderbird for e-mail.
> 
> Yeah, that's true, but pretty soon that's going to be just about every
> corporation. The blackmail and extortion racket is pervasive and the
> screeching mobs see no ethical delimma in doing "whatever it takes."
> Exactly the same mindset of those attacking Kavanaugh (probably
> controlled by the same slime).

Well, if all corporations under the sun eventually get controlled my 
brain-dead social justice warriors, I'll have to stop using all software 
made by all corporations under the sun. I'm resisting this shite at all 
costs. 

It's not even a matter of left vs. right anymore; it's a matter of sane 
vs. insane, normal vs. abnormal. I have no interest in supporting the 
evil of the left in any way, even accidentally.



-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Christian

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#469372

On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 01:12:13 GMT, SilverSlimer, thunk thusly:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 22:22:09 +0000, RonB wrote:
>
>> On 2018-09-28, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 04:31:44 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-09-27, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:25:19 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-09-27, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, it's not too great but it gets the job done in the end. I
>>>>>>> also think it's the only Usenet reader I've used which loads the
>>>>>>> 2-bit images some posters have attached to their Usenet identities.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pan was the closest I could get to XNews when I left Windows and
>>>>>> it's definitely not "crap." It uses a good filter system and does a
>>>>>> good job with quotes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I actually disagree about the filter system. So far, it's the worst
>>>>> and least intuitive I've come across since the function, in the
>>>>> software itself, seems broken and you have to edit the config file on
>>>>> your own. Of course, you have to understand _how_ to edit it as well
>>>>> and lucky for me,
>>>>> Fabian Russell and Steve Carroll helped me out quite a bit with that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thunderbird is a _lot_ better than Pan for Usenet but I'm not much in
>>>>> favour of using Mozilla software.
>>>> 
>>>> I completely disagree about Thunderbird and Usenet. I thought it was
>>>> terrible. Mangled quotes, hard (for me) to use. And what I really
>>>> disliked about it is that I once mistakenly sent out a personal email
>>>> respone over my Usenet account. (Heartfelt letter to my younger
>>>> brother who, at the time, was strugglng with addiction. I've seen
>>>> others do something similar.) That was the last time I ever used
>>>> Thunderbird for Usenet. Since then I've always used something
>>>> specifically designed for newsgroups, basically Xnews (then Xnews
>>>> under Wine), then Pan, then slrn.
>>>> 
>>>> That said, choice is good. Use what you're comfortable with. I'm not
>>>> sure why you don't want to use Mozilla software, but I'm sure there's
>>>> a reason.
>>>
>>> Mozilla = social justice warrior advocates who got rid of Brendan Eich
>>> because he had donated to an organization which was against abortion
>>> and donated to Antifa. Good points about Thunderbird though and I have
>>> to admit that I faced the same. It's one of the reasons I use Evolution
>>> over Thunderbird for e-mail.
>> 
>> Yeah, that's true, but pretty soon that's going to be just about every
>> corporation. The blackmail and extortion racket is pervasive and the
>> screeching mobs see no ethical delimma in doing "whatever it takes."
>> Exactly the same mindset of those attacking Kavanaugh (probably
>> controlled by the same slime).
>
> Well, if all corporations under the sun eventually get controlled my 
> brain-dead social justice warriors, I'll have to stop using all software 
> made by all corporations under the sun. I'm resisting this shite at all 
> costs. 
>
> It's not even a matter of left vs. right anymore; it's a matter of sane 
> vs. insane, normal vs. abnormal. I have no interest in supporting the 
> evil of the left in any way, even accidentally.

No one cares what little catholic gurls think.
Just lift your skirt and genuflect like a good cathoilc.
If you were in a dark room, and I turned on a lamp, you'd bow to the lamp.
Idiot.

-- 
Brick Mortar

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On 9/28/18 6:12 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 22:22:09 +0000, RonB wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-09-28, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 04:31:44 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-09-27, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:25:19 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2018-09-27, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, it's not too great but it gets the job done in the end. I
>>>>>>> also think it's the only Usenet reader I've used which loads the
>>>>>>> 2-bit images some posters have attached to their Usenet identities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pan was the closest I could get to XNews when I left Windows and
>>>>>> it's definitely not "crap." It uses a good filter system and does a
>>>>>> good job with quotes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I actually disagree about the filter system. So far, it's the worst
>>>>> and least intuitive I've come across since the function, in the
>>>>> software itself, seems broken and you have to edit the config file on
>>>>> your own. Of course, you have to understand _how_ to edit it as well
>>>>> and lucky for me,
>>>>> Fabian Russell and Steve Carroll helped me out quite a bit with that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thunderbird is a _lot_ better than Pan for Usenet but I'm not much in
>>>>> favour of using Mozilla software.
>>>>
>>>> I completely disagree about Thunderbird and Usenet. I thought it was
>>>> terrible. Mangled quotes, hard (for me) to use. And what I really
>>>> disliked about it is that I once mistakenly sent out a personal email
>>>> respone over my Usenet account. (Heartfelt letter to my younger
>>>> brother who, at the time, was strugglng with addiction. I've seen
>>>> others do something similar.) That was the last time I ever used
>>>> Thunderbird for Usenet. Since then I've always used something
>>>> specifically designed for newsgroups, basically Xnews (then Xnews
>>>> under Wine), then Pan, then slrn.
>>>>
>>>> That said, choice is good. Use what you're comfortable with. I'm not
>>>> sure why you don't want to use Mozilla software, but I'm sure there's
>>>> a reason.
>>>
>>> Mozilla = social justice warrior advocates who got rid of Brendan Eich
>>> because he had donated to an organization which was against abortion
>>> and donated to Antifa. Good points about Thunderbird though and I have
>>> to admit that I faced the same. It's one of the reasons I use Evolution
>>> over Thunderbird for e-mail.
>>
>> Yeah, that's true, but pretty soon that's going to be just about every
>> corporation. The blackmail and extortion racket is pervasive and the
>> screeching mobs see no ethical delimma in doing "whatever it takes."
>> Exactly the same mindset of those attacking Kavanaugh (probably
>> controlled by the same slime).
> 
> Well, if all corporations under the sun eventually get controlled my
> brain-dead social justice warriors, I'll have to stop using all software
> made by all corporations under the sun. I'm resisting this shite at all
> costs.

I am sure they will weep.

> It's not even a matter of left vs. right anymore; it's a matter of sane
> vs. insane, normal vs. abnormal. I have no interest in supporting the
> evil of the left in any way, even accidentally.

There are loonies on the left, but you think equal rights is "evil".


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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