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You are safer in the US than in the UK

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  You are safer in the US than in the UK owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-01-13 16:04 +0000
    USA is still the murder capital of the world 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2013-01-13 16:34 +0000
      Re: USA is still the murder capital of the world Big Steel <"The One"@One.net> - 2013-01-13 11:37 -0500
      Re: USA is still the murder capital of the world Justin <no_no@becauseireallyreallyhatespam.farts> - 2013-01-13 21:53 -0500
    Re: You are safer in the US than in the UK bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-01-13 17:11 +0000
      Re: You are safer in the US than in the UK owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-01-14 01:12 +0000
      Re: You are safer in the US than in the UK JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2013-01-13 20:05 -0600
    Re: You are safer in the US than in the UK Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2013-01-13 18:14 +0100
      Re: You are safer in the US than in the UK Chris Ahlstrom <admin@cyberbully.com> - 2013-01-13 14:28 -0500
        Re: You are safer in the US than in the UK flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-13 14:42 -0500
        Re: You are safer in the US than in the UK Big Steel <"The One77"@One77.net> - 2013-01-13 14:45 -0500
        Re: You are safer in the US than in the UK William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2013-01-13 22:58 +0000
      Re: You are safer in the US than in the UK owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-01-14 01:27 +0000
    Re: You are safer in the US than in the UK Nobody <invalid@invalid.com> - 2013-01-13 12:17 -0600
      Re: You are safer in the US than in the UK owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-01-14 01:31 +0000
      Re: You are safer in the US than in the UK JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2013-01-13 20:07 -0600
      Re: You are safer in the US than in the UK Justin <no_no@becauseireallyreallyhatespam.farts> - 2013-01-13 21:54 -0500
        Re: You are safer in the US than in the UK JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2013-01-14 10:01 -0600
    Re: You are safer in the US than in the UK RayLopez99 <raylopez88@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 09:45 -0800
      Re: You are safer in the US than in the UK Big Steel <"The One77KKK"@One77KKK.net> - 2013-01-14 12:49 -0500

#157705 — You are safer in the US than in the UK

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2013-01-13 16:04 +0000
SubjectYou are safer in the US than in the UK
Message-ID<rie0.38fq@rooftop.invalid>
It's just a fact.  Gun-free zone Great Britain, like all gun-free zones,
makes for open season targeting of the innocent.  More killings in the
US though, since we get to shoot the fucking low-lifes before they have
a chance to harm us.

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#157715 — USA is still the murder capital of the world

From7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com>
Date2013-01-13 16:34 +0000
SubjectUSA is still the murder capital of the world
Message-ID<OmBIs.2358$tz3.443@fx06.fr7>
In reply to#157705
Snit wrote:

> It's just a fact.


America still the murder capital of the world
---------------------------------------------

The easiest way to get gun control is to get its owners
to go register IN PERSON their personal devices EVERY YEAR for $10.

It doesn't violate the right to bear arms.

Full ownership documents must be presented.
Full proof of ID must be presented.
No more than 2 devices can be registered per day
for personal use per person.

It doesn't violate the right to bear arms.

Devices left unregistered for more than 3 months
will need to be destroyed and can't be re-registered
unless exceptional circumstances apply.

It doesn't violate the right to bear arms.

All future guns must be manufactured to
have a 5 digit counter to indicate
how many rounds it has fired.

It doesn't violate the right to bear arms.

If the gun has been used between registrations,
an explanation must be given as to what it may
have been used for when re-registering.

It doesn't violate the right to bear arms.

If no explanations are given, or if gun
has been used one or more times, then 
a fingerprint of a fired bullet is taken.

It doesn't violate the right to bear arms.

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#157717 — Re: USA is still the murder capital of the world

FromBig Steel <"The One"@One.net>
Date2013-01-13 11:37 -0500
SubjectRe: USA is still the murder capital of the world
Message-ID<wP6dnU09V59bf2_NnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#157715
On 1/13/2013 11:34 AM, 7 wrote:

<snipped>

Yeah the USA lets the NRA wipe its ass, no doubt.

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#157837 — Re: USA is still the murder capital of the world

FromJustin <no_no@becauseireallyreallyhatespam.farts>
Date2013-01-13 21:53 -0500
SubjectRe: USA is still the murder capital of the world
Message-ID<kcvrum$co7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#157715
On 1/13/13 11:34 AM, 7 wrote:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> It's just a fact.
>
>
> America still the murder capital of the world


Wrong.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate


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#157727

Frombbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2013-01-13 17:11 +0000
Message-ID<alg86oFdp33U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#157705
owl wrote:

> It's just a fact.  Gun-free zone Great Britain, like all gun-free zones,
> makes for open season targeting of the innocent.  More killings in the
> US though, since we get to shoot the fucking low-lifes before they have
> a chance to harm us.

Yes, you must be a lot safer in the U.S. (not!)  - your murder rate is over 
3 times that in the U.K., even though you have fewer large cities/head of 
population, and 8 times the land area/head of population!

Don't get me wrong - I've only been arguing about the phoney figures you 
choose to post.  When it comes to high murder rates in the U.S., I've no 
objections at all!

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#157809

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2013-01-14 01:12 +0000
Message-ID<eyr733.d03@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#157727
bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> owl wrote:

> > It's just a fact.  Gun-free zone Great Britain, like all gun-free zones,
> > makes for open season targeting of the innocent.  More killings in the
> > US though, since we get to shoot the fucking low-lifes before they have
> > a chance to harm us.

> Yes, you must be a lot safer in the U.S. (not!)  - your murder rate is over 
> 3 times that in the U.K., even though you have fewer large cities/head of 
> population, and 8 times the land area/head of population!

Yeah that's realistic.  Just the populations of NYC and Los Angeles
amount to roughly half the entire UK population.

> Don't get me wrong - I've only been arguing about the phoney figures you 
> choose to post.  When it comes to high murder rates in the U.S., I've no 
> objections at all!

Violent crime rate in UK is about double that of the US.  That's because
we have guns and keep the criminals in check.

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#157824

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2013-01-13 20:05 -0600
Message-ID<slrnkf6puf.jdu.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#157727
On 2013-01-13, bbgruff <bbgruff@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> owl wrote:
>
>> It's just a fact.  Gun-free zone Great Britain, like all gun-free zones,
>> makes for open season targeting of the innocent.  More killings in the
>> US though, since we get to shoot the fucking low-lifes before they have
>> a chance to harm us.
>
> Yes, you must be a lot safer in the U.S. (not!)  - your murder rate is over 
> 3 times that in the U.K., even though you have fewer large cities/head of 

    You get an F for statistics.

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#157728

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2013-01-13 18:14 +0100
Message-ID<kcuq0v$1b6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#157705
owl wrote:

> It's just a fact.  Gun-free zone Great Britain, like all gun-free zones,
> makes for open season targeting of the innocent.  More killings in the
> US though, since we get to shoot the fucking low-lifes before they have
> a chance to harm us.

And when you think that there possibly can't be dumber "persons" like 
flatfish, Hadron Snit Larry or Snit Michael Glasser, along comes owl and 
proves you wrong

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#157772

FromChris Ahlstrom <admin@cyberbully.com>
Date2013-01-13 14:28 -0500
Message-ID<kcv2gr$p4b$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#157728
After swilling some grog, Peter Köhlmann belched this bit o' wisdom:

> owl wrote:
>
>> It's just a fact.  Gun-free zone Great Britain, like all gun-free zones,
>> makes for open season targeting of the innocent.  More killings in the
>> US though, since we get to shoot the fucking low-lifes before they have
>> a chance to harm us.
>
> And when you think that there possibly can't be dumber "persons" like 
> flatfish, Hadron Snit Larry or Snit Michael Glasser, along comes owl and 
> proves you wrong

owl is a real hoot!

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#157774

Fromflatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com>
Date2013-01-13 14:42 -0500
Message-ID<xbrieucyxbrf.zk0ba8z2yl2f.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#157772
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:28:01 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> After swilling some grog, Peter Köhlmann belched this bit o' wisdom:
> 
>> owl wrote:
>>
>>> It's just a fact.  Gun-free zone Great Britain, like all gun-free zones,
>>> makes for open season targeting of the innocent.  More killings in the
>>> US though, since we get to shoot the fucking low-lifes before they have
>>> a chance to harm us.
>>
>> And when you think that there possibly can't be dumber "persons" like 
>> flatfish, Hadron Snit Larry or Snit Michael Glasser, along comes owl and 
>> proves you wrong
> 
> owl is a real hoot!

Barf....
Don't quit your day job QA'ing Windows software and documentation.

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#157775

FromBig Steel <"The One77"@One77.net>
Date2013-01-13 14:45 -0500
Message-ID<dYKdnb9GVKF5k27NnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#157772
On 1/13/2013 2:28 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> After swilling some grog, Peter Köhlmann belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> owl wrote:
>>
>>> It's just a fact.  Gun-free zone Great Britain, like all gun-free zones,
>>> makes for open season targeting of the innocent.  More killings in the
>>> US though, since we get to shoot the fucking low-lifes before they have
>>> a chance to harm us.
>>
>> And when you think that there possibly can't be dumber "persons" like
>> flatfish, Hadron Snit Larry or Snit Michael Glasser, along comes owl and
>> proves you wrong
>
> owl is a real hoot!
>

I have to agree with Köhlmann's assessment here. He was right on the 
money with flatfish+++ and DFS, who are both sociopaths. :)

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#157791

FromWilliam Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net>
Date2013-01-13 22:58 +0000
Message-ID<jpqbs9-rc7.ln1@alpha-one.wpnetwork.org>
In reply to#157772
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> After swilling some grog, Peter Köhlmann belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> owl wrote:
>>
>>> It's just a fact.  Gun-free zone Great Britain, like all gun-free zones,
>>> makes for open season targeting of the innocent.  More killings in the
>>> US though, since we get to shoot the fucking low-lifes before they have
>>> a chance to harm us.
>>
>> And when you think that there possibly can't be dumber "persons" like 
>> flatfish, Hadron Snit Larry or Snit Michael Glasser, along comes owl and 
>> proves you wrong
>
> owl is a real hoot!

Nah, he's just 'winging it'! 8-D 

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Microsoft is an incredibly successful empire built on the 
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#157811

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2013-01-14 01:27 +0000
Message-ID<eyr7493.3f@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#157728
Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
> owl wrote:

> > It's just a fact.  Gun-free zone Great Britain, like all gun-free zones,
> > makes for open season targeting of the innocent.  More killings in the
> > US though, since we get to shoot the fucking low-lifes before they have
> > a chance to harm us.

> And when you think that there possibly can't be dumber "persons" like 
> flatfish, Hadron Snit Larry or Snit Michael Glasser, along comes owl and 
> proves you wrong

It's comes as no surprise that Germany has an even greater drug problem
than Britain:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_dru_off-crime-drug-offences
# 1   	  Germany: 	250,969 per 100,000 people  	
# 2   	  United Kingdom: 	183,419 per 100,000 people  	
# 3   	  Canada: 	92,590 per 100,000 people  	
# 4   	  South Africa: 	53,810 per 100,000 people  	
...
# 41   	  United States: 	560.1 per 100,000 people 

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#157760

FromNobody <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2013-01-13 12:17 -0600
Message-ID<kcutnu$6e5$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#157705
On 1/13/2013 10:04 AM, owl wrote:
> It's just a fact.  Gun-free zone Great Britain, like all gun-free zones,
> makes for open season targeting of the innocent.  More killings in the
> US though, since we get to shoot the fucking low-lifes before they have
> a chance to harm us.

"Two Kansas police officers responding to a report of a suspicious 
vehicle were fatally shot in the head outside a grocery store Sunday night."

"A third officer who fired back at the shooter was not injured, said 
Topeka Police Chief Ron Miller."

"Police identified the shooter as David Edward Tiscareno, 22. He managed 
to escape."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/17/justice/kansas-officers-killed/index.html

Hmm... so if you walk around with a gun, and two armed buddies, you have 
a one out of three chance of being the person who lives?

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#157812

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2013-01-14 01:31 +0000
Message-ID<eyr739.3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#157760
Nobody <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 1/13/2013 10:04 AM, owl wrote:
> > It's just a fact.  Gun-free zone Great Britain, like all gun-free zones,
> > makes for open season targeting of the innocent.  More killings in the
> > US though, since we get to shoot the fucking low-lifes before they have
> > a chance to harm us.

> "Two Kansas police officers responding to a report of a suspicious 
> vehicle were fatally shot in the head outside a grocery store Sunday night."

> "A third officer who fired back at the shooter was not injured, said 
> Topeka Police Chief Ron Miller."

> "Police identified the shooter as David Edward Tiscareno, 22. He managed 
> to escape."

> http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/17/justice/kansas-officers-killed/index.html

> Hmm... so if you walk around with a gun, and two armed buddies, you have 
> a one out of three chance of being the person who lives?

"A third officer who fired back at the shooter was not injured, said 
Topeka Police Chief Ron Miller."

So the one who used his gun to defend himself survived.  Good point.

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#157825

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2013-01-13 20:07 -0600
Message-ID<slrnkf6q2h.jdu.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#157760
On 2013-01-13, Nobody <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 1/13/2013 10:04 AM, owl wrote:
>> It's just a fact.  Gun-free zone Great Britain, like all gun-free zones,
>> makes for open season targeting of the innocent.  More killings in the
>> US though, since we get to shoot the fucking low-lifes before they have
>> a chance to harm us.
>
> "Two Kansas police officers responding to a report of a suspicious 
> vehicle were fatally shot in the head outside a grocery store Sunday night."
>
> "A third officer who fired back at the shooter was not injured, said 
> Topeka Police Chief Ron Miller."
>
> "Police identified the shooter as David Edward Tiscareno, 22. He managed 
> to escape."
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/17/justice/kansas-officers-killed/index.html
>
> Hmm... so if you walk around with a gun, and two armed buddies, you have 
> a one out of three chance of being the person who lives?

   This sounds like horrible procedural fail.

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#157839

FromJustin <no_no@becauseireallyreallyhatespam.farts>
Date2013-01-13 21:54 -0500
Message-ID<kcvs1f$co7$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#157760
On 1/13/13 1:17 PM, Nobody wrote:
> On 1/13/2013 10:04 AM, owl wrote:
>> It's just a fact.  Gun-free zone Great Britain, like all gun-free zones,
>> makes for open season targeting of the innocent.  More killings in the
>> US though, since we get to shoot the fucking low-lifes before they have
>> a chance to harm us.
>
> "Two Kansas police officers responding to a report of a suspicious
> vehicle were fatally shot in the head outside a grocery store Sunday
> night."
>
> "A third officer who fired back at the shooter was not injured, said
> Topeka Police Chief Ron Miller."
>
> "Police identified the shooter as David Edward Tiscareno, 22. He managed
> to escape."
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/17/justice/kansas-officers-killed/index.html
>
> Hmm... so if you walk around with a gun, and two armed buddies, you have
> a one out of three chance of being the person who lives?
>


The rest of the department was busy issuing traffic citations.

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#157952

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2013-01-14 10:01 -0600
Message-ID<slrnkf8av3.64v.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#157839
On 2013-01-14, Justin <no_no@becauseireallyreallyhatespam.farts> wrote:
> On 1/13/13 1:17 PM, Nobody wrote:
>> On 1/13/2013 10:04 AM, owl wrote:
>>> It's just a fact.  Gun-free zone Great Britain, like all gun-free zones,
>>> makes for open season targeting of the innocent.  More killings in the
>>> US though, since we get to shoot the fucking low-lifes before they have
>>> a chance to harm us.
>>
>> "Two Kansas police officers responding to a report of a suspicious
>> vehicle were fatally shot in the head outside a grocery store Sunday
>> night."
>>
>> "A third officer who fired back at the shooter was not injured, said
>> Topeka Police Chief Ron Miller."
>>
>> "Police identified the shooter as David Edward Tiscareno, 22. He managed
>> to escape."
>>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/17/justice/kansas-officers-killed/index.html
>>
>> Hmm... so if you walk around with a gun, and two armed buddies, you have
>> a one out of three chance of being the person who lives?
>>
>
>
> The rest of the department was busy issuing traffic citations.

   Issuing traffic citations is actually quite dangerous. You never know
who you are going to stop, and what they are up to, or what they are on,
or what else they have going on.

    Avoiding this sort of result is already addressed by normal police
procedure and training.

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#157959

FromRayLopez99 <raylopez88@gmail.com>
Date2013-01-14 09:45 -0800
Message-ID<e51645a4-b31d-4629-a01a-7f9943897cc9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#157705
On Sunday, January 13, 2013 6:04:17 PM UTC+2, owl wrote:
> It's just a fact.  Gun-free zone Great Britain, like all gun-free zones,
> 
> makes for open season targeting of the innocent.  More killings in the
> 
> US though, since we get to shoot the fucking low-lifes before they have
> 
> a chance to harm us.

Your post makes no sense, like your choice of OS (Linux).

RL

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#157962

FromBig Steel <"The One77KKK"@One77KKK.net>
Date2013-01-14 12:49 -0500
Message-ID<mdednYt64pCS2GnNnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#157959
On 1/14/2013 12:45 PM, RayLopez99 wrote:
> On Sunday, January 13, 2013 6:04:17 PM UTC+2, owl wrote:
>> It's just a fact.  Gun-free zone Great Britain, like all gun-free zones,
>>
>> makes for open season targeting of the innocent.  More killings in the
>>
>> US though, since we get to shoot the fucking low-lifes before they have
>>
>> a chance to harm us.
>
> Your post makes no sense, like your choice of OS (Linux).
>
> RL

I have never seen a clown like him and his jaw-jacking like a woman.

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