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  A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-10-08 15:09 +0000
    Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Se7en <se7en@firemail.cc> - 2016-10-08 19:33 +0000
      Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-10-08 21:47 +0000
    Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-09 10:17 -0400
      Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-09 15:25 +0000
        Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-09 12:56 -0400
          Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-09 13:41 -0400
            Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-10 09:11 -0400
              Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-10 09:27 -0400
                Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-10 09:47 -0400
                  Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-10 10:29 -0400
                    Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-10 13:13 -0400
                      Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-10 13:21 -0400
                        Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-10 16:40 -0400
                          Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-10 17:02 -0400
                            Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-10 17:55 -0400
          Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-09 23:43 +0000
            Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-10 09:16 -0400
              Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-10 09:34 -0400
                Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-10 08:41 -0500
                  Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-10 10:54 -0600
                    Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-10 23:52 +0000
                      Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-10-10 22:00 -0600
                        Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-11 12:49 +0000
                Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-10 09:50 -0400
                  Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-10 10:44 -0400
                    Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-10 13:15 -0400
                Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-01 10:03 -0700
            Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe fr314159@gmail.com - 2016-10-10 10:31 -0700
        Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Se7en <se7en@firemail.cc> - 2016-10-10 06:39 +0000
        Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-10 09:53 -0400
          Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-10 15:19 +0000
            Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-10 13:03 -0400
              Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-10 23:55 +0000
                Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-11 09:10 -0400
                  Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-11 13:41 +0000
            Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-10 13:19 -0400
      Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-09 12:51 -0400
        Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-10-09 17:10 +0000
        Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-09 23:38 +0000
          Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-10 09:15 -0400
            Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-10 09:31 -0400
              Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-10 15:41 +0200
                Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-10 10:36 -0400
                  Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-10 18:16 +0200
                  Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-01 10:03 -0700
              Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-10 09:42 -0400
              Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-10 09:49 -0400
            Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe fr314159@gmail.com - 2016-10-10 07:10 -0700
              Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-10 09:20 -0500
      Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-10-09 17:03 +0000
        Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-10-10 09:18 -0400
          Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-10-10 09:45 -0400
            Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe fr314159@gmail.com - 2016-10-10 07:18 -0700
              Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-10 09:38 -0500
                Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-10 18:05 +0200
            Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-10 15:16 +0000
      Re: A GNU World in a Degenerate Universe Alexander Suvorov <axr.suvorov@yandex.ru> - 2016-10-10 14:08 +0300

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#375832

chrisv wrote:

>>> Jim Polaski wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> That was the show. I thought RMS was joking until I realized he was
>>>>  serious. That was the point where I realized that Stallman has
>>>> some very strange ideas. It's interesting how many in the Linux
>>>> community continue to defend and protect him and his obtuse and
>>>> unrealistic opinions and ideas.
> 
> Fsck you, "Jim".  He's got a right to express his opinons, and he is
> not a "spokeman for Linux".
> 
> How long before you start calling the cola advocates "the herd",
> "Jim"?
> 

Notice that no one is ever responding to your shrill hysterics.

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#375878

On 2016-10-10, GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
> chrisv wrote:
>
>>>> Jim Polaski wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> That was the show. I thought RMS was joking until I realized he was
>>>>>  serious. That was the point where I realized that Stallman has
>>>>> some very strange ideas. It's interesting how many in the Linux
>>>>> community continue to defend and protect him and his obtuse and
>>>>> unrealistic opinions and ideas.
>> 
>> Fsck you, "Jim".  He's got a right to express his opinons, and he is
>> not a "spokeman for Linux".
>> 
>> How long before you start calling the cola advocates "the herd",
>> "Jim"?
>> 
>
> Notice that no one is ever responding to your shrill hysterics.

I suspect the he is really a she.
A really, really miserable she.

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#375896

Jim Polaski wrote:

> On 2016-10-10, GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>> chrisv wrote:
>>
>>>>> Jim Polaski wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That was the show. I thought RMS was joking until I realized he was
>>>>>>  serious. That was the point where I realized that Stallman has
>>>>>> some very strange ideas. It's interesting how many in the Linux
>>>>>> community continue to defend and protect him and his obtuse and
>>>>>> unrealistic opinions and ideas.
>>> 
>>> Fsck you, "Jim".  He's got a right to express his opinons, and he is
>>> not a "spokeman for Linux".
>>> 
>>> How long before you start calling the cola advocates "the herd",
>>> "Jim"?
>>> 
>>
>> Notice that no one is ever responding to your shrill hysterics.
> 
> I suspect the he is really a she.
> A really, really miserable she.

Yep, and with lilac sneakers on too, just like in the photo she provided trying 
to prove she got a degree from Illinois.  She took a picture of a book on the 
floor but forgot to get her dainty lilac sneakers out of the picture.  :-))

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#375918

On 2016-10-11, GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
> Jim Polaski wrote:
>
>> On 2016-10-10, GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Jim Polaski wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That was the show. I thought RMS was joking until I realized he was
>>>>>>>  serious. That was the point where I realized that Stallman has
>>>>>>> some very strange ideas. It's interesting how many in the Linux
>>>>>>> community continue to defend and protect him and his obtuse and
>>>>>>> unrealistic opinions and ideas.
>>>> 
>>>> Fsck you, "Jim".  He's got a right to express his opinons, and he is
>>>> not a "spokeman for Linux".
>>>> 
>>>> How long before you start calling the cola advocates "the herd",
>>>> "Jim"?
>>>> 
>>>
>>> Notice that no one is ever responding to your shrill hysterics.
>> 
>> I suspect the he is really a she.
>> A really, really miserable she.
>
> Yep, and with lilac sneakers on too, just like in the photo she provided trying 
> to prove she got a degree from Illinois.  She took a picture of a book on the 
> floor but forgot to get her dainty lilac sneakers out of the picture.  :-))

Confirmed.
Either a girl or the picture is a fake and not him in the picture.

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#375806

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On 2016-10-10 9:34 AM, Marek Novotny wrote:
> On 2016-10-10, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>> 
>> On 2016-10-09 7:43 PM, Jim Polaski wrote:
>>> On 2016-10-09, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 2016-10-09 11:25 AM, Jim Polaski wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-10-09, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/8/2016 11:09 AM, Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I could easily use GNU/Linux for EVERYTHING and suffer
>>>>>>> no loss of any kind.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Except a huge loss of dignity.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But there is always the issue of exchanging
>>>>>>> information (i.e. documents) with other people.  The
>>>>>>> majority of these "others" use Microjunk formats, and
>>>>>>> needless to say GNU/Linux cannot handle these formats.
>>>>>>> Traditionally, Microjunk formats were always a weird
>>>>>>> amalgamation of binary streams that are closely related
>>>>>>> tho their equally weird Component Object Model.  The
>>>>>>> newer Microjunk OOXML format is more amenable to
>>>>>>> GNU/Linux but it is far from being a truly open
>>>>>>> standard.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Richard Stallman outlined a strategy to entice people
>>>>>>> into using more open formats for data exchange but, as
>>>>>>> one can easily foresee, the strategy got nowhere:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.en.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
Every time I see that obese, disgusting, repulsive sasquatch
>>>>>> telling people what to do, I wanna send money directly to
>>>>>>  Microsoft.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I agree with some of what RMS says but like most
>>>>> extremists he's a couple of cards short of a full deck.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I remember hearing him a few years ago on a Linux podcast, 
>>>>> Linux Outlaws I think, where he was arguing with one of
>>>>> the hosts that it would be the right thing to do to let his
>>>>> family starve rather than take a job programming closed
>>>>> source software. That is just crazy.
>>>> 
>>>> It was on the Linux Action Show and he was saying that to
>>>> Bryan Lunduke whose jaw just dropped.
>>>> 
>>>> - -- Silver Slimer Islam is a disease Gab.AI: @silverslimer
>>> 
>>> That was the show. I thought RMS was joking until I realized he
>>> was serious. That was the point where I realized that Stallman
>>> has some very strange ideas. It's interesting how many in the
>>> Linux community continue to defend and protect him and his
>>> obtuse and unrealistic opinions and ideas. And that's not even
>>> including his comments on pedophilia. He's like the Debbie
>>> Wasserman Shultz of the Linux world. A very bad spokesperson
>>> for Linux and someone who should retire from the evangelist
>>> role and turn the reigns over to some other person with less
>>> polarizing views.
>> 
>> He's extreme in his views but I respect the fact that he won't
>> bend. Most people see him as unrealistic but to his credit, he
>> believes in his stance so deeply that he's unwilling to
>> compromise and the ersult is a number of distributions which
>> follows his philosophies very closely and which happen to perform
>> extraordinarily well. I am very fond of Trisquel in particular
>> and if I didn't game at all or have a powerful GPU on my laptop,
>> I probably would be using it.
> 
> I have watched a fair amount of interviews with RMS over the last
> couple years. For the most part I don't have any issues with him at
> all. I do contribute monies and am a member of the FSF. I like his
> GPL a lot more than any other license. We also him to thank for
> having all the bits beyond the Kernel, which is a substantial
> contribution.

I would have loved to meet him and his henchmen when I was in Boston a
few weeks ago but I guess it's my own fault for ending up in the city
on a Saturday when the FSF had no reason to be open. I also happened
to be there right after the transsexual controversy and they might
have been hiding from the public.


- -- 
Silver Slimer
Islam is a disease
Gab.AI: @silverslimer
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#375817

On 2016-10-10, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>
> On 2016-10-10 9:34 AM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>> On 2016-10-10, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2016-10-09 7:43 PM, Jim Polaski wrote:
>>>> On 2016-10-09, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2016-10-09 11:25 AM, Jim Polaski wrote:
>>>>>> On 2016-10-09, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/8/2016 11:09 AM, Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I could easily use GNU/Linux for EVERYTHING and suffer
>>>>>>>> no loss of any kind.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Except a huge loss of dignity.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But there is always the issue of exchanging
>>>>>>>> information (i.e. documents) with other people.  The
>>>>>>>> majority of these "others" use Microjunk formats, and
>>>>>>>> needless to say GNU/Linux cannot handle these formats.
>>>>>>>> Traditionally, Microjunk formats were always a weird
>>>>>>>> amalgamation of binary streams that are closely related
>>>>>>>> tho their equally weird Component Object Model.  The
>>>>>>>> newer Microjunk OOXML format is more amenable to
>>>>>>>> GNU/Linux but it is far from being a truly open
>>>>>>>> standard.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Richard Stallman outlined a strategy to entice people
>>>>>>>> into using more open formats for data exchange but, as
>>>>>>>> one can easily foresee, the strategy got nowhere:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.en.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
> Every time I see that obese, disgusting, repulsive sasquatch
>>>>>>> telling people what to do, I wanna send money directly to
>>>>>>>  Microsoft.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree with some of what RMS says but like most
>>>>>> extremists he's a couple of cards short of a full deck.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I remember hearing him a few years ago on a Linux podcast, 
>>>>>> Linux Outlaws I think, where he was arguing with one of
>>>>>> the hosts that it would be the right thing to do to let his
>>>>>> family starve rather than take a job programming closed
>>>>>> source software. That is just crazy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It was on the Linux Action Show and he was saying that to
>>>>> Bryan Lunduke whose jaw just dropped.
>>>>> 
>>>>> - -- Silver Slimer Islam is a disease Gab.AI: @silverslimer
>>>> 
>>>> That was the show. I thought RMS was joking until I realized he
>>>> was serious. That was the point where I realized that Stallman
>>>> has some very strange ideas. It's interesting how many in the
>>>> Linux community continue to defend and protect him and his
>>>> obtuse and unrealistic opinions and ideas. And that's not even
>>>> including his comments on pedophilia. He's like the Debbie
>>>> Wasserman Shultz of the Linux world. A very bad spokesperson
>>>> for Linux and someone who should retire from the evangelist
>>>> role and turn the reigns over to some other person with less
>>>> polarizing views.
>>> 
>>> He's extreme in his views but I respect the fact that he won't
>>> bend. Most people see him as unrealistic but to his credit, he
>>> believes in his stance so deeply that he's unwilling to
>>> compromise and the ersult is a number of distributions which
>>> follows his philosophies very closely and which happen to perform
>>> extraordinarily well. I am very fond of Trisquel in particular
>>> and if I didn't game at all or have a powerful GPU on my laptop,
>>> I probably would be using it.
>> 
>> I have watched a fair amount of interviews with RMS over the last
>> couple years. For the most part I don't have any issues with him at
>> all. I do contribute monies and am a member of the FSF. I like his
>> GPL a lot more than any other license. We also him to thank for
>> having all the bits beyond the Kernel, which is a substantial
>> contribution.
>
> I would have loved to meet him and his henchmen when I was in Boston a
> few weeks ago but I guess it's my own fault for ending up in the city
> on a Saturday when the FSF had no reason to be open. I also happened
> to be there right after the transsexual controversy and they might
> have been hiding from the public.

There are a lot of interviews with him and he essentially says the same
things in each one. So I don't know what you would have gained from
face time with him. 

I would very highly recommend reading the book, Hackers: Heros of the
Computer Revolution. It's on Audible and Downpour. Downpoor is a
completely DRM free by the way. I think it will give you a sense of the
culture where RMS came from. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#375838

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On 2016-10-10 10:44 AM, Marek Novotny wrote:
> On 2016-10-10, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>> 
>> On 2016-10-10 9:34 AM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>> On 2016-10-10, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 2016-10-09 7:43 PM, Jim Polaski wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-10-09, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2016-10-09 11:25 AM, Jim Polaski wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2016-10-09, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/8/2016 11:09 AM, Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I could easily use GNU/Linux for EVERYTHING and
>>>>>>>>> suffer no loss of any kind.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Except a huge loss of dignity.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> But there is always the issue of exchanging 
>>>>>>>>> information (i.e. documents) with other people.
>>>>>>>>> The majority of these "others" use Microjunk
>>>>>>>>> formats, and needless to say GNU/Linux cannot
>>>>>>>>> handle these formats. Traditionally, Microjunk
>>>>>>>>> formats were always a weird amalgamation of binary
>>>>>>>>> streams that are closely related tho their equally
>>>>>>>>> weird Component Object Model.  The newer Microjunk
>>>>>>>>> OOXML format is more amenable to GNU/Linux but it
>>>>>>>>> is far from being a truly open standard.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Richard Stallman outlined a strategy to entice
>>>>>>>>> people into using more open formats for data
>>>>>>>>> exchange but, as one can easily foresee, the
>>>>>>>>> strategy got nowhere:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.en.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>>> 
Every time I see that obese, disgusting, repulsive sasquatch
>>>>>>>> telling people what to do, I wanna send money
>>>>>>>> directly to Microsoft.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I agree with some of what RMS says but like most 
>>>>>>> extremists he's a couple of cards short of a full
>>>>>>> deck.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I remember hearing him a few years ago on a Linux
>>>>>>> podcast, Linux Outlaws I think, where he was arguing
>>>>>>> with one of the hosts that it would be the right thing
>>>>>>> to do to let his family starve rather than take a job
>>>>>>> programming closed source software. That is just
>>>>>>> crazy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It was on the Linux Action Show and he was saying that
>>>>>> to Bryan Lunduke whose jaw just dropped.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - -- Silver Slimer Islam is a disease Gab.AI:
>>>>>> @silverslimer
>>>>> 
>>>>> That was the show. I thought RMS was joking until I
>>>>> realized he was serious. That was the point where I
>>>>> realized that Stallman has some very strange ideas. It's
>>>>> interesting how many in the Linux community continue to
>>>>> defend and protect him and his obtuse and unrealistic
>>>>> opinions and ideas. And that's not even including his
>>>>> comments on pedophilia. He's like the Debbie Wasserman
>>>>> Shultz of the Linux world. A very bad spokesperson for
>>>>> Linux and someone who should retire from the evangelist 
>>>>> role and turn the reigns over to some other person with
>>>>> less polarizing views.
>>>> 
>>>> He's extreme in his views but I respect the fact that he
>>>> won't bend. Most people see him as unrealistic but to his
>>>> credit, he believes in his stance so deeply that he's
>>>> unwilling to compromise and the ersult is a number of
>>>> distributions which follows his philosophies very closely and
>>>> which happen to perform extraordinarily well. I am very fond
>>>> of Trisquel in particular and if I didn't game at all or have
>>>> a powerful GPU on my laptop, I probably would be using it.
>>> 
>>> I have watched a fair amount of interviews with RMS over the
>>> last couple years. For the most part I don't have any issues
>>> with him at all. I do contribute monies and am a member of the
>>> FSF. I like his GPL a lot more than any other license. We also
>>> him to thank for having all the bits beyond the Kernel, which
>>> is a substantial contribution.
>> 
>> I would have loved to meet him and his henchmen when I was in
>> Boston a few weeks ago but I guess it's my own fault for ending
>> up in the city on a Saturday when the FSF had no reason to be
>> open. I also happened to be there right after the transsexual
>> controversy and they might have been hiding from the public.
> 
> There are a lot of interviews with him and he essentially says the
> same things in each one. So I don't know what you would have gained
> from face time with him.

It was just an opportunity to meet the guy. To me, he's like a
celebrity even though nobody would recognize him off of the street. I
was actually surprised that nobody I talked to at MIT had any idea who
the Hell the guy was; I figured he'd at least be known and respected
there since he spent most of his days (and nights) at the place.

> I would very highly recommend reading the book, Hackers: Heros of
> the Computer Revolution. It's on Audible and Downpour. Downpoor is
> a completely DRM free by the way. I think it will give you a sense
> of the culture where RMS came from.

I read his biography and his set of essays. The latter is fairly
boring but informative and his biography, even if interesting,
portrays him as a real dick. Still, it's nice to know what kind of a
person he is and especially the fact that he doesn't sugarcoat
anything about himself.

- -- 
Silver Slimer
Islam is a disease
Gab.AI: @silverslimer
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#378920

On 10/10/16, 6:34 AM, in article
ppadnSP3V9plBWbKnZ2dnUU7-IednZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny"
<marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:

>>> That was the show. I thought RMS was joking until I realized he was
>>>  serious. That was the point where I realized that Stallman has
>>> some very strange ideas. It's interesting how many in the Linux
>>> community continue to defend and protect him and his obtuse and
>>> unrealistic opinions and ideas. And that's not even including his
>>> comments on pedophilia. He's like the Debbie Wasserman Shultz of
>>> the Linux world. A very bad spokesperson for Linux and someone who
>>> should retire from the evangelist role and turn the reigns over to
>>> some other person with less polarizing views.
>> 
>> He's extreme in his views but I respect the fact that he won't bend.
>> Most people see him as unrealistic but to his credit, he believes in
>> his stance so deeply that he's unwilling to compromise and the ersult
>> is a number of distributions which follows his philosophies very
>> closely and which happen to perform extraordinarily well. I am very
>> fond of Trisquel in particular and if I didn't game at all or have a
>> powerful GPU on my laptop, I probably would be using it.
> 
> I have watched a fair amount of interviews with RMS over the last couple
> years. For the most part I don't have any issues with him at all. I do
> contribute monies and am a member of the FSF. I like his GPL a lot more
> than any other license. We also him to thank for having all the bits
> beyond the Kernel, which is a substantial contribution.

I do not like his calls to take away people's personal property, nor his
support for sexual abuse of minors.


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#375848

On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 7:43:09 PM UTC-4, Jim Polaski wrote:

>
> It's interesting how many in the Linux community continue to defend and 
> protect him and his obtuse and unrealistic opinions and ideas.
>

For a shallow chump like you it may be "interesting."

But that which you feeble mind fails to understand is that GNU/Linux
is far more than just another OS.  GNU/Linux is a movement, a
philosophy, a new beginning, and a new way.  It is, in essence,
a WELTANSCHAUUNG.

The heart and soul of GNU/Linux seeks to overturn the rampant
commercialism that has poisoned and polluted the world of
computing since the 1980's -- and for a minority it has succeeded
admirably.

For this noble purpose, GNU/Linux requires advocates of a highly
spirited and unconventional bent.  Stallman is therefore an
outstanding spokesman and there SHOULD BE many more like him.

Your comments indicate that you are a lifeless and cowardly follower
of the crowd.  You are no advocate.  Get the fuck out of here.









 And 
> that's not even including his comments on pedophilia. He's like the 
> Debbie Wasserman Shultz of the Linux world. A very bad spokesperson for 
> Linux and someone who should retire from the evangelist role and turn 
> the reigns over to some other person with less polarizing views.

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#375761

On Sun, 09 Oct 2016 15:25:54 +0000, Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org>
(news:e5v5s2FqjjsU8@mid.individual.net) wrote:

> I remember hearing him [RMS] a few years ago on a Linux podcast, Linux 
> Outlaws I think, where he was arguing with one of the hosts that it 
> would be the right thing to do to let his family starve rather than 
> take a job programming closed source software. That is just crazy.

The way I see it, his view would be that by helpiong your family, you are 
contributing to something that would harm everyone. Also, there are other 
jobs that you could go into to help feed your family, FYI. I have not 
seen the clip and I do not have a position on the statement but I feel 
this would be his reasoning behind it, which is more or less a simple and 
not (too) outlandish reason.


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#375807

On 10/9/2016 11:25 AM, Jim Polaski wrote:
> On 2016-10-09, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 10/8/2016 11:09 AM, Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks wrote:
>>
>>> I could easily use GNU/Linux for EVERYTHING and suffer no loss
>>> of any kind.
>>
>> Except a huge loss of dignity.
>>
>>
>>
>>> But there is always the issue of exchanging information (i.e.
>>> documents) with other people.  The majority of these "others"
>>> use Microjunk formats, and needless to say GNU/Linux cannot
>>> handle these formats.  Traditionally, Microjunk formats were
>>> always a weird amalgamation of binary streams that are closely
>>> related tho their equally weird Component Object Model.  The
>>> newer Microjunk OOXML format is more amenable to GNU/Linux
>>> but it is far from being a truly open standard.
>>>
>>> Richard Stallman outlined a strategy to entice people into
>>> using more open formats for data exchange but, as one can
>>> easily foresee, the strategy got nowhere:
>>>
>>> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.en.html
>>
>>
>> Every time I see that obese, disgusting, repulsive sasquatch telling
>> people what to do, I wanna send money directly to Microsoft.
>
> I agree with some of what RMS says but like most extremists he's a
> couple of cards short of a full deck.
>
> I remember hearing him a few years ago on a Linux podcast, Linux Outlaws
> I think, where he was arguing with one of the hosts that it would be the
> right thing to do to let his family starve rather than take a job
> programming closed source software. That is just crazy.


That food-filled neckbeard can only babble such stupidity because people 
give him free money:

* FSF begging

* speaking fees where people pay to see his pregnant belly and watch
   him eat foot skin

* a $240K MacArthur Fellowship grant in 1990

* an $830K Takeda Award for Techno-Entrepreneurial Achievement for
   Social/Economic Well-Being in 2001

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#375821

On 2016-10-10, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 10/9/2016 11:25 AM, Jim Polaski wrote:
>> On 2016-10-09, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 10/8/2016 11:09 AM, Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks wrote:
>>>
>>>> I could easily use GNU/Linux for EVERYTHING and suffer no loss
>>>> of any kind.
>>>
>>> Except a huge loss of dignity.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> But there is always the issue of exchanging information (i.e.
>>>> documents) with other people.  The majority of these "others"
>>>> use Microjunk formats, and needless to say GNU/Linux cannot
>>>> handle these formats.  Traditionally, Microjunk formats were
>>>> always a weird amalgamation of binary streams that are closely
>>>> related tho their equally weird Component Object Model.  The
>>>> newer Microjunk OOXML format is more amenable to GNU/Linux
>>>> but it is far from being a truly open standard.
>>>>
>>>> Richard Stallman outlined a strategy to entice people into
>>>> using more open formats for data exchange but, as one can
>>>> easily foresee, the strategy got nowhere:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.en.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Every time I see that obese, disgusting, repulsive sasquatch telling
>>> people what to do, I wanna send money directly to Microsoft.
>>
>> I agree with some of what RMS says but like most extremists he's a
>> couple of cards short of a full deck.
>>
>> I remember hearing him a few years ago on a Linux podcast, Linux Outlaws
>> I think, where he was arguing with one of the hosts that it would be the
>> right thing to do to let his family starve rather than take a job
>> programming closed source software. That is just crazy.
>
>
> That food-filled neckbeard can only babble such stupidity because people 
> give him free money:
>
> * FSF begging
>
> * speaking fees where people pay to see his pregnant belly and watch
>    him eat foot skin
>
> * a $240K MacArthur Fellowship grant in 1990
>
> * an $830K Takeda Award for Techno-Entrepreneurial Achievement for
>    Social/Economic Well-Being in 2001

He's got a good gig going for himself. He travels the world preaching to 
the choir boosting his ego when they worship him. All in all he's fairly 
harmless as long as you don't happen to be down wind from him.

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#375834

On 10/10/2016 11:19 AM, Jim Polaski wrote:
> On 2016-10-10, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 10/9/2016 11:25 AM, Jim Polaski wrote:
>>> On 2016-10-09, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>> On 10/8/2016 11:09 AM, Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I could easily use GNU/Linux for EVERYTHING and suffer no loss
>>>>> of any kind.
>>>>
>>>> Except a huge loss of dignity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> But there is always the issue of exchanging information (i.e.
>>>>> documents) with other people.  The majority of these "others"
>>>>> use Microjunk formats, and needless to say GNU/Linux cannot
>>>>> handle these formats.  Traditionally, Microjunk formats were
>>>>> always a weird amalgamation of binary streams that are closely
>>>>> related tho their equally weird Component Object Model.  The
>>>>> newer Microjunk OOXML format is more amenable to GNU/Linux
>>>>> but it is far from being a truly open standard.
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Stallman outlined a strategy to entice people into
>>>>> using more open formats for data exchange but, as one can
>>>>> easily foresee, the strategy got nowhere:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.en.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Every time I see that obese, disgusting, repulsive sasquatch telling
>>>> people what to do, I wanna send money directly to Microsoft.
>>>
>>> I agree with some of what RMS says but like most extremists he's a
>>> couple of cards short of a full deck.
>>>
>>> I remember hearing him a few years ago on a Linux podcast, Linux Outlaws
>>> I think, where he was arguing with one of the hosts that it would be the
>>> right thing to do to let his family starve rather than take a job
>>> programming closed source software. That is just crazy.
>>
>>
>> That food-filled neckbeard can only babble such stupidity because people
>> give him free money:
>>
>> * FSF begging
>>
>> * speaking fees where people pay to see his pregnant belly and watch
>>    him eat foot skin
>>
>> * a $240K MacArthur Fellowship grant in 1990
>>
>> * an $830K Takeda Award for Techno-Entrepreneurial Achievement for
>>    Social/Economic Well-Being in 2001
>
> He's got a good gig going for himself. He travels the world preaching to
> the choir boosting his ego when they worship him. All in all he's fairly
> harmless as long as you don't happen to be down wind from him.


The audience that worships him looks (and smells) just like him.  Nobody 
normal would pay to see or listen to that freak.

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#375879

On 2016-10-10, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 10/10/2016 11:19 AM, Jim Polaski wrote:
>> On 2016-10-10, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 10/9/2016 11:25 AM, Jim Polaski wrote:
>>>> On 2016-10-09, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/8/2016 11:09 AM, Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I could easily use GNU/Linux for EVERYTHING and suffer no loss
>>>>>> of any kind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Except a huge loss of dignity.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> But there is always the issue of exchanging information (i.e.
>>>>>> documents) with other people.  The majority of these "others"
>>>>>> use Microjunk formats, and needless to say GNU/Linux cannot
>>>>>> handle these formats.  Traditionally, Microjunk formats were
>>>>>> always a weird amalgamation of binary streams that are closely
>>>>>> related tho their equally weird Component Object Model.  The
>>>>>> newer Microjunk OOXML format is more amenable to GNU/Linux
>>>>>> but it is far from being a truly open standard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard Stallman outlined a strategy to entice people into
>>>>>> using more open formats for data exchange but, as one can
>>>>>> easily foresee, the strategy got nowhere:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.en.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Every time I see that obese, disgusting, repulsive sasquatch telling
>>>>> people what to do, I wanna send money directly to Microsoft.
>>>>
>>>> I agree with some of what RMS says but like most extremists he's a
>>>> couple of cards short of a full deck.
>>>>
>>>> I remember hearing him a few years ago on a Linux podcast, Linux Outlaws
>>>> I think, where he was arguing with one of the hosts that it would be the
>>>> right thing to do to let his family starve rather than take a job
>>>> programming closed source software. That is just crazy.
>>>
>>>
>>> That food-filled neckbeard can only babble such stupidity because people
>>> give him free money:
>>>
>>> * FSF begging
>>>
>>> * speaking fees where people pay to see his pregnant belly and watch
>>>    him eat foot skin
>>>
>>> * a $240K MacArthur Fellowship grant in 1990
>>>
>>> * an $830K Takeda Award for Techno-Entrepreneurial Achievement for
>>>    Social/Economic Well-Being in 2001
>>
>> He's got a good gig going for himself. He travels the world preaching to
>> the choir boosting his ego when they worship him. All in all he's fairly
>> harmless as long as you don't happen to be down wind from him.
>
>
> The audience that worships him looks (and smells) just like him.  Nobody 
> normal would pay to see or listen to that freak.

He is interesting to listen to simply because he is so odd. I wouldn't 
pay a cent to hear him speak and I certainly would not get anywhere near 
him. 
Bed bugs are extremely difficult to exterminate once they take up 
residence in your home.
 

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#375919

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On 2016-10-10 7:55 PM, Jim Polaski wrote:
> On 2016-10-10, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 10/10/2016 11:19 AM, Jim Polaski wrote:
>>> On 2016-10-10, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>> On 10/9/2016 11:25 AM, Jim Polaski wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-10-09, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/8/2016 11:09 AM, Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I could easily use GNU/Linux for EVERYTHING and suffer
>>>>>>> no loss of any kind.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Except a huge loss of dignity.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But there is always the issue of exchanging information
>>>>>>> (i.e. documents) with other people.  The majority of
>>>>>>> these "others" use Microjunk formats, and needless to
>>>>>>> say GNU/Linux cannot handle these formats.
>>>>>>> Traditionally, Microjunk formats were always a weird
>>>>>>> amalgamation of binary streams that are closely related
>>>>>>> tho their equally weird Component Object Model.  The 
>>>>>>> newer Microjunk OOXML format is more amenable to
>>>>>>> GNU/Linux but it is far from being a truly open
>>>>>>> standard.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Richard Stallman outlined a strategy to entice people
>>>>>>> into using more open formats for data exchange but, as
>>>>>>> one can easily foresee, the strategy got nowhere:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.en.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
Every time I see that obese, disgusting, repulsive sasquatch telling
>>>>>> people what to do, I wanna send money directly to
>>>>>> Microsoft.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I agree with some of what RMS says but like most extremists
>>>>> he's a couple of cards short of a full deck.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I remember hearing him a few years ago on a Linux podcast,
>>>>> Linux Outlaws I think, where he was arguing with one of the
>>>>> hosts that it would be the right thing to do to let his
>>>>> family starve rather than take a job programming closed
>>>>> source software. That is just crazy.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That food-filled neckbeard can only babble such stupidity
>>>> because people give him free money:
>>>> 
>>>> * FSF begging
>>>> 
>>>> * speaking fees where people pay to see his pregnant belly
>>>> and watch him eat foot skin
>>>> 
>>>> * a $240K MacArthur Fellowship grant in 1990
>>>> 
>>>> * an $830K Takeda Award for Techno-Entrepreneurial
>>>> Achievement for Social/Economic Well-Being in 2001
>>> 
>>> He's got a good gig going for himself. He travels the world
>>> preaching to the choir boosting his ego when they worship him.
>>> All in all he's fairly harmless as long as you don't happen to
>>> be down wind from him.
>> 
>> 
>> The audience that worships him looks (and smells) just like him.
>> Nobody normal would pay to see or listen to that freak.
> 
> He is interesting to listen to simply because he is so odd. I
> wouldn't pay a cent to hear him speak and I certainly would not get
> anywhere near him. Bed bugs are extremely difficult to exterminate
> once they take up residence in your home.

I wonder why the spicker doodles in South America keep inviting him to
speak to them. I imagine that free software is very popular there (the
same way the Sega Master System was even though it failed everywhere
else) but I wonder if that's really the case.

- -- 
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Islam is a disease
Gab.AI: @silverslimer
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#375928

On 2016-10-11, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>
> On 2016-10-10 7:55 PM, Jim Polaski wrote:
>> On 2016-10-10, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 10/10/2016 11:19 AM, Jim Polaski wrote:
>>>> On 2016-10-10, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/9/2016 11:25 AM, Jim Polaski wrote:
>>>>>> On 2016-10-09, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/8/2016 11:09 AM, Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I could easily use GNU/Linux for EVERYTHING and suffer
>>>>>>>> no loss of any kind.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Except a huge loss of dignity.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But there is always the issue of exchanging information
>>>>>>>> (i.e. documents) with other people.  The majority of
>>>>>>>> these "others" use Microjunk formats, and needless to
>>>>>>>> say GNU/Linux cannot handle these formats.
>>>>>>>> Traditionally, Microjunk formats were always a weird
>>>>>>>> amalgamation of binary streams that are closely related
>>>>>>>> tho their equally weird Component Object Model.  The 
>>>>>>>> newer Microjunk OOXML format is more amenable to
>>>>>>>> GNU/Linux but it is far from being a truly open
>>>>>>>> standard.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Richard Stallman outlined a strategy to entice people
>>>>>>>> into using more open formats for data exchange but, as
>>>>>>>> one can easily foresee, the strategy got nowhere:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.en.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
> Every time I see that obese, disgusting, repulsive sasquatch telling
>>>>>>> people what to do, I wanna send money directly to
>>>>>>> Microsoft.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I agree with some of what RMS says but like most extremists
>>>>>> he's a couple of cards short of a full deck.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I remember hearing him a few years ago on a Linux podcast,
>>>>>> Linux Outlaws I think, where he was arguing with one of the
>>>>>> hosts that it would be the right thing to do to let his
>>>>>> family starve rather than take a job programming closed
>>>>>> source software. That is just crazy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> That food-filled neckbeard can only babble such stupidity
>>>>> because people give him free money:
>>>>> 
>>>>> * FSF begging
>>>>> 
>>>>> * speaking fees where people pay to see his pregnant belly
>>>>> and watch him eat foot skin
>>>>> 
>>>>> * a $240K MacArthur Fellowship grant in 1990
>>>>> 
>>>>> * an $830K Takeda Award for Techno-Entrepreneurial
>>>>> Achievement for Social/Economic Well-Being in 2001
>>>> 
>>>> He's got a good gig going for himself. He travels the world
>>>> preaching to the choir boosting his ego when they worship him.
>>>> All in all he's fairly harmless as long as you don't happen to
>>>> be down wind from him.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The audience that worships him looks (and smells) just like him.
>>> Nobody normal would pay to see or listen to that freak.
>> 
>> He is interesting to listen to simply because he is so odd. I
>> wouldn't pay a cent to hear him speak and I certainly would not get
>> anywhere near him. Bed bugs are extremely difficult to exterminate
>> once they take up residence in your home.
>
> I wonder why the spicker doodles in South America keep inviting him to
> speak to them. I imagine that free software is very popular there (the
> same way the Sega Master System was even though it failed everywhere
> else) but I wonder if that's really the case.
>
> - -- 
> Silver Slimer
> Islam is a disease
> Gab.AI: @silverslimer

Linux and open source software is very popular outside the USA. Stallman 
is an icon in that field so I'm sure he is in demand as a speaker.
Being strange just adds to the curiosity.

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#375841

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On 2016-10-10 11:19 AM, Jim Polaski wrote:
> On 2016-10-10, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 10/9/2016 11:25 AM, Jim Polaski wrote:
>>> On 2016-10-09, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>> On 10/8/2016 11:09 AM, Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I could easily use GNU/Linux for EVERYTHING and suffer no
>>>>> loss of any kind.
>>>> 
>>>> Except a huge loss of dignity.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> But there is always the issue of exchanging information
>>>>> (i.e. documents) with other people.  The majority of these
>>>>> "others" use Microjunk formats, and needless to say
>>>>> GNU/Linux cannot handle these formats.  Traditionally,
>>>>> Microjunk formats were always a weird amalgamation of
>>>>> binary streams that are closely related tho their equally
>>>>> weird Component Object Model.  The newer Microjunk OOXML
>>>>> format is more amenable to GNU/Linux but it is far from
>>>>> being a truly open standard.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard Stallman outlined a strategy to entice people into 
>>>>> using more open formats for data exchange but, as one can 
>>>>> easily foresee, the strategy got nowhere:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.en.html
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Every time I see that obese, disgusting, repulsive sasquatch
>>>> telling people what to do, I wanna send money directly to
>>>> Microsoft.
>>> 
>>> I agree with some of what RMS says but like most extremists
>>> he's a couple of cards short of a full deck.
>>> 
>>> I remember hearing him a few years ago on a Linux podcast,
>>> Linux Outlaws I think, where he was arguing with one of the
>>> hosts that it would be the right thing to do to let his family
>>> starve rather than take a job programming closed source
>>> software. That is just crazy.
>> 
>> 
>> That food-filled neckbeard can only babble such stupidity because
>> people give him free money:
>> 
>> * FSF begging
>> 
>> * speaking fees where people pay to see his pregnant belly and
>> watch him eat foot skin
>> 
>> * a $240K MacArthur Fellowship grant in 1990
>> 
>> * an $830K Takeda Award for Techno-Entrepreneurial Achievement
>> for Social/Economic Well-Being in 2001
> 
> He's got a good gig going for himself. He travels the world
> preaching to the choir boosting his ego when they worship him. All
> in all he's fairly harmless as long as you don't happen to be down
> wind from him.

+1 ROFL. I feel bad for the guy who was forced to dance with him
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t96m2ynKw0> ... seriously, it must
have been awkward as Hell.
- -- 
Silver Slimer
Islam is a disease
Gab.AI: @silverslimer
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#375731

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On 2016-10-09 10:17 AM, DFS wrote:
> On 10/8/2016 11:09 AM, Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks wrote:
> 
>> I could easily use GNU/Linux for EVERYTHING and suffer no loss of
>> any kind.
> 
> Except a huge loss of dignity.

Ha!

>> But there is always the issue of exchanging information (i.e. 
>> documents) with other people.  The majority of these "others" use
>> Microjunk formats, and needless to say GNU/Linux cannot handle
>> these formats.  Traditionally, Microjunk formats were always a
>> weird amalgamation of binary streams that are closely related tho
>> their equally weird Component Object Model.  The newer Microjunk
>> OOXML format is more amenable to GNU/Linux but it is far from
>> being a truly open standard.
>> 
>> Richard Stallman outlined a strategy to entice people into using
>> more open formats for data exchange but, as one can easily
>> foresee, the strategy got nowhere:
>> 
>> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.en.html
> 
> 
> Every time I see that obese, disgusting, repulsive sasquatch
> telling people what to do, I wanna send money directly to
> Microsoft.

It's not anyone's fault that Word is the most respected word processor
out there. If Corel and LibreOffice had made a decent alternative to
Word, we'd be using their formats instead of Microsoft's. Clearly, the
"advocates" would love to go around claiming that Microsoft only got
to its position because of bribing and such but it's plain to see what
Word is just better than the competition. Quality won, not bribes.

>> Microjunk has for some reason decided to allow its Office suite
>> to actually read and write ODF file formats, which are TRULY open
>> formats and which are natively produced by GNU/Linux
>> LibreOffice.
> 
> Truly open, and truly slow.

LibreOffice actually runs very well in Linux. It's only in Windows and
OS X that it runs like molasses and I can't explain why.


- -- 
Silver Slimer
Islam is a disease
Gab.AI: @silverslimer
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#375737

On Sun, 09 Oct 2016 12:51:35 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote:

> 
> It's not anyone's fault that Word is the most respected word processor
> out there. 
>

What the fuck do you know about office software?

How many documents and spreadsheets do you produce on a
weekly basis?  Huh?  How many databases?  How many
OLAP analyses?

Would you care to post some of your "creations" that
can't be duplicated outside of the Microshit environment?

You do nothing with a computer.  Nothing.  You are just
a game queer and a dabbler.  That's it.

Big fucking deal!

Your opinions and judgments are worth less than a spoonful
of dog shit.

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#375748

On 2016-10-09, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>
> On 2016-10-09 10:17 AM, DFS wrote:
>> On 10/8/2016 11:09 AM, Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks wrote:
>> 
>>> I could easily use GNU/Linux for EVERYTHING and suffer no loss of
>>> any kind.
>> 
>> Except a huge loss of dignity.
>
> Ha!
>
>>> But there is always the issue of exchanging information (i.e. 
>>> documents) with other people.  The majority of these "others" use
>>> Microjunk formats, and needless to say GNU/Linux cannot handle
>>> these formats.  Traditionally, Microjunk formats were always a
>>> weird amalgamation of binary streams that are closely related tho
>>> their equally weird Component Object Model.  The newer Microjunk
>>> OOXML format is more amenable to GNU/Linux but it is far from
>>> being a truly open standard.
>>> 
>>> Richard Stallman outlined a strategy to entice people into using
>>> more open formats for data exchange but, as one can easily
>>> foresee, the strategy got nowhere:
>>> 
>>> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.en.html
>> 
>> 
>> Every time I see that obese, disgusting, repulsive sasquatch
>> telling people what to do, I wanna send money directly to
>> Microsoft.
>
> It's not anyone's fault that Word is the most respected word processor
> out there. If Corel and LibreOffice had made a decent alternative to
> Word, we'd be using their formats instead of Microsoft's. Clearly, the
> "advocates" would love to go around claiming that Microsoft only got
> to its position because of bribing and such but it's plain to see what
> Word is just better than the competition. Quality won, not bribes.
>
>>> Microjunk has for some reason decided to allow its Office suite
>>> to actually read and write ODF file formats, which are TRULY open
>>> formats and which are natively produced by GNU/Linux
>>> LibreOffice.
>> 
>> Truly open, and truly slow.
>
> LibreOffice actually runs very well in Linux. It's only in Windows and
> OS X that it runs like molasses and I can't explain why.
>
>
> - -- 
> Silver Slimer
> Islam is a disease
> Gab.AI: @silverslimer

LibreOffice runs better under Linux on my system. It runs ok under 
Windows as well but there is a slight speed increase in opening large 
documents under Linux for sure.
I find gimp also runs better under Linux than under Windows 10.

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