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Re: Today's Presidential Debate.

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  Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-26 22:09 -0700
    Re: Today's Presidential Debate. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-09-27 09:01 -0700
      Re: Today's Presidential Debate. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-27 12:08 -0500
      Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-27 10:17 -0700
        Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-27 12:13 -0600
          Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-27 11:23 -0700
            Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-27 15:07 -0600
              Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-27 14:13 -0700
                Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-27 16:51 -0600
                  Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-09-28 01:16 +0200
                    Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-27 18:28 -0600
                      Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-09-28 09:49 +0200
                        Re: Today's Presidential Debate. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-28 08:04 -0500
                          Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-09-28 15:42 +0200
                            Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-28 09:16 -0600
                        Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-28 09:14 -0600
                    Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-27 17:28 -0700
                    Re: Today's Presidential Debate. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-28 07:02 -0500
                  Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-27 17:17 -0700
                    Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-27 18:30 -0600
                      Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-27 18:07 -0700
                        Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-28 09:22 -0600
                          Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-28 08:52 -0700
                            Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-28 11:15 -0600
                              Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-28 11:13 -0700
                                Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-28 14:11 -0600
                                  Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-28 13:45 -0700
                                    Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-29 10:40 -0600
                                      Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 10:21 -0700
                                        Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-29 21:45 -0600
                                          Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-09-30 03:55 +0000
                                            Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 21:08 -0700
                                            Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-30 08:31 -0400
                                              Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-30 08:23 -0700
                                            Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-30 14:35 -0600
                                              Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-30 21:42 +0000
                                                Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-09-30 21:55 +0000
                                                Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-30 16:46 -0600
                                              Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-30 15:38 -0700
                                                Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-10-01 01:05 +0200
                                                  Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-30 17:04 -0700
                                          Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 21:04 -0700
                  Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 07:55 -0400
                    Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-28 09:32 -0600
                      Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 12:22 -0400
                        Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-28 11:23 -0600
                          Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-28 10:35 -0700
                            Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-28 14:21 -0600
                              Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-28 13:48 -0700
                                Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-29 10:46 -0600
                                  Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 10:24 -0700
                                    Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-29 21:55 -0600
                                      Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 21:26 -0700
                                      Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-30 08:31 -0400
                                        Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-30 08:22 -0700
                          Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 15:12 -0400
                            Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-28 12:24 -0700
                            Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-28 14:24 -0600
                              Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-28 13:49 -0700
                                Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-29 10:47 -0600
                                  Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 10:25 -0700
                                    Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-29 21:56 -0600
                                      Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 21:31 -0700
                              Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 17:53 -0400
                                Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-28 15:07 -0700
                                Re: Today's Presidential Debate. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-28 20:50 -0400
                                  Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-28 18:02 -0700
                                    Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-29 10:53 -0600
                                Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-29 10:51 -0600
                                  Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-29 13:03 -0400
                                    Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 10:50 -0700
                                    Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-29 21:59 -0600
                                      Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 21:05 -0700
                                  Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 11:02 -0700
                                    Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-29 22:00 -0600
                                      Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 21:06 -0700
                            Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-29 12:47 -0400
                              Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-29 22:11 -0600
                        Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-28 10:30 -0700
                      Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-28 08:56 -0700
                        Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-28 11:18 -0600
                          Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-28 10:32 -0700
                            Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-28 14:19 -0600
                              Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-28 13:47 -0700
                                Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-29 10:43 -0600
                                  Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 11:01 -0700
                                    Re: Today's Presidential Debate. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-29 21:52 -0600
                                      Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 21:30 -0700
                          Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 15:07 -0400
                            Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-28 12:27 -0700
                    Re: Today's Presidential Debate. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-28 08:45 -0700
    Re: You can't fix dead. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-09-27 15:24 -0700
      Re: You can't fix dead. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-27 16:54 -0600
        Re: You can't fix dead. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-09-28 01:15 +0200
          Re: You can't fix dead. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-27 18:32 -0600
            Re: You can't fix dead. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-27 18:04 -0700
              Re: You can't fix dead. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-28 09:35 -0600
              Re: You can't fix dead. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-28 16:49 -0400
                Re: You can't fix dead. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-28 14:01 -0700
                Re: You can't fix dead. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-29 10:57 -0600
                  Re: You can't fix dead. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-09-29 11:01 -0700
                    Re: You can't fix dead. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 11:16 -0700
                      Re: You can't fix dead. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-09-29 11:55 -0700
                        Re: You can't fix dead. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 11:59 -0700
                          Re: You can't fix dead. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-09-29 17:22 -0700
                            Re: You can't fix dead. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 17:28 -0700
                              Re: You can't fix dead. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-09-29 18:38 -0700
                                Re: You can't fix dead. Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-09-30 01:47 +0000
                                  Re: You can't fix dead. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-09-29 19:33 -0700
                                    Re: You can't fix dead. Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-09-30 03:52 +0000
                                      Re: You can't fix dead. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 21:07 -0700
                                    Re: You can't fix dead. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 20:00 -0700
                                      Re: You can't fix dead. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-09-29 21:52 -0700
                                        Re: You can't fix dead. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 21:56 -0700
                                  Re: You can't fix dead. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 19:04 -0700
                                  Re: You can't fix dead. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-29 22:16 -0600
                                    Re: You can't fix dead. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 21:31 -0700
                                      Re: You can't fix dead. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-30 14:38 -0600
                                        Re: You can't fix dead. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-30 15:39 -0700
                                Re: You can't fix dead. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-29 19:03 -0700
                        Re: You can't fix dead. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-30 06:43 -0500
                    Re: You can't fix dead. GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-09-29 22:13 -0600
                      Re: You can't fix dead. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-09-29 21:35 -0700
        Re: Trump is a technophobe, he "very rarely" emails. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 01:03 -0700
          Re: Trump is a technophobe, he "very rarely" emails. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 08:13 -0400
          Re: Too much money makes you lazy, depressed. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 10:32 -0700
            Re: eXercising your brain ( and body ). Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 12:32 -0700
              Re: I recently deleted about 60 entries in my "Contacts" list. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 14:42 -0700
          Re: Too much money makes you lazy, depressed. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-28 17:09 -0400
            Re: Too much money makes you lazy, depressed. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 14:33 -0700
            Re: Too much money makes you lazy, depressed. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-09-28 14:34 -0700
            Re: Ben Jacoby posts via Windows 10. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-09-28 20:39 -0400
          Re: Too much money makes you lazy, depressed. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-09-30 14:18 -0700
            Re: Living ( and dying ) slower. Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-10-01 01:15 -0700
      Re: You can't fix dead. Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-09-28 07:50 -0400

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#373078

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-09-27 18:07 -0700
Message-ID<D41065E1.7EAA2%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#373073
On 9/27/16, 5:30 PM, in article nsf2v0$7ue$2@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
<Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:

...
>>> What have you got against putin?
>>> All he wanted to do was do business.  Yet Obama has a lot of hardware on
>>> his border.  Russia doesn't have a base in our hemisphere.  They only
>>> have two.  So who is surrounding who?
>>> At least Trump can do business and get a better deal than Hillary ever will.
>> 
>> We have been pretty much fighting proxy wars with them for some time.
> 
> Agree, and all of it was designed to start a very chaotic war, which
> later on would be noted as WWIII.  WWIII doesn't have to be nuclear, as
> all foreign leaders know that that is a no-win situation.  Everybody loses.

But why celebrate Trump being friendly with Putin?

>>>> Hey, were you not against those who are supported by Soviets?
>>> 
>>> During that era, yes.  But the Soviets no longer exist.  Since the early
>>> 90s, the KGB was dismantled.  Now, because of the dishonest manner in
>>> what this country is doing, he now has started the KGB back up.
>> 
>> He who?
> 
> Putin, of course.

Hard to know with you if you mean that or Obama starting it in the US.

>>>>> If you are in your early 30s and WWIII starts, better get your affairs
>>>>> in order as you'll get drafted.
>>>> 
>>>> Both Clinton and Trump will lead to war.
>>> 
>>> Just Clinton.  Trump won't do it as it isn't in his nature to do so.
>> 
>> Belittle him in any way and he will want to prove he is a man.
> 
> How so?  Far as I can see and tell, he doesn't have to prove that point.

He does. Heck, look at his whole "hands" obsession. He is as insecure as
many of those who troll COLA. :)

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#373142

FromGreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com>
Date2016-09-28 09:22 -0600
Message-ID<nsgn7f$ose$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#373078
On 09/27/2016 07:07 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 9/27/16, 5:30 PM, in article nsf2v0$7ue$2@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
> <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>
> ...
>>>> What have you got against putin?
>>>> All he wanted to do was do business.  Yet Obama has a lot of hardware on
>>>> his border.  Russia doesn't have a base in our hemisphere.  They only
>>>> have two.  So who is surrounding who?
>>>> At least Trump can do business and get a better deal than Hillary ever will.
>>>
>>> We have been pretty much fighting proxy wars with them for some time.
>>
>> Agree, and all of it was designed to start a very chaotic war, which
>> later on would be noted as WWIII.  WWIII doesn't have to be nuclear, as
>> all foreign leaders know that that is a no-win situation.  Everybody loses.
>
> But why celebrate Trump being friendly with Putin?

So, you want WWIII I take it?
That's why, because Trump doesn't want war either, and neither does putin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqD8lIdIMRo

>
>>>>> Hey, were you not against those who are supported by Soviets?
>>>>
>>>> During that era, yes.  But the Soviets no longer exist.  Since the early
>>>> 90s, the KGB was dismantled.  Now, because of the dishonest manner in
>>>> what this country is doing, he now has started the KGB back up.
>>>
>>> He who?
>>
>> Putin, of course.
>
> Hard to know with you if you mean that or Obama starting it in the US.
>

The dishonesty was started by Obama.  The above video should explain 
that point very well.

>>>>>> If you are in your early 30s and WWIII starts, better get your affairs
>>>>>> in order as you'll get drafted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both Clinton and Trump will lead to war.
>>>>
>>>> Just Clinton.  Trump won't do it as it isn't in his nature to do so.
>>>
>>> Belittle him in any way and he will want to prove he is a man.
>>
>> How so?  Far as I can see and tell, he doesn't have to prove that point.
>
> He does. Heck, look at his whole "hands" obsession. He is as insecure as
> many of those who troll COLA. :)
>

So far, I haven't seen any of Trumps talks or speeches showing he is 
trying to prove he is a man.  He wants to protect americans from our 
corrupt government and banking system.

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#373185

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-09-28 08:52 -0700
Message-ID<D411354B.7EB78%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#373142
On 9/28/16, 8:22 AM, in article nsgn7f$ose$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
<Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:

> On 09/27/2016 07:07 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 9/27/16, 5:30 PM, in article nsf2v0$7ue$2@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
>> <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ...
>>>>> What have you got against putin?
>>>>> All he wanted to do was do business.  Yet Obama has a lot of hardware on
>>>>> his border.  Russia doesn't have a base in our hemisphere.  They only
>>>>> have two.  So who is surrounding who?
>>>>> At least Trump can do business and get a better deal than Hillary ever
>>>>> will.
>>>> 
>>>> We have been pretty much fighting proxy wars with them for some time.
>>> 
>>> Agree, and all of it was designed to start a very chaotic war, which
>>> later on would be noted as WWIII.  WWIII doesn't have to be nuclear, as
>>> all foreign leaders know that that is a no-win situation.  Everybody loses.
>> 
>> But why celebrate Trump being friendly with Putin?
> 
> So, you want WWIII I take it?

Not at all.

> That's why, because Trump doesn't want war either, and neither does putin.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqD8lIdIMRo

Trump is an emotional child who jumps at the slightest provocation. He
wanted to attack people for name calling. He would lead to massive war.

So will Clinton.
 
>> 
>>>>>> Hey, were you not against those who are supported by Soviets?
>>>>> 
>>>>> During that era, yes.  But the Soviets no longer exist.  Since the early
>>>>> 90s, the KGB was dismantled.  Now, because of the dishonest manner in
>>>>> what this country is doing, he now has started the KGB back up.
>>>> 
>>>> He who?
>>> 
>>> Putin, of course.
>> 
>> Hard to know with you if you mean that or Obama starting it in the US.
>> 
> 
> The dishonesty was started by Obama.  The above video should explain
> that point very well.

I did not watch it all... can you point to where he backs, no less even
says, anything about blaming Obama?

>>>>>>> If you are in your early 30s and WWIII starts, better get your affairs
>>>>>>> in order as you'll get drafted.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Both Clinton and Trump will lead to war.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just Clinton.  Trump won't do it as it isn't in his nature to do so.
>>>> 
>>>> Belittle him in any way and he will want to prove he is a man.
>>> 
>>> How so?  Far as I can see and tell, he doesn't have to prove that point.
>> 
>> He does. Heck, look at his whole "hands" obsession. He is as insecure as
>> many of those who troll COLA. :)
>> 
> 
> So far, I haven't seen any of Trumps talks or speeches showing he is
> trying to prove he is a man.

Have you watched any where he has not? Listen to him talk about his hands.
Listen to him brag about his money and his influence and his power.

He is an emotional child.

> He wants to protect americans from our
> corrupt government and banking system.
> 
> 



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#373197

FromGreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com>
Date2016-09-28 11:15 -0600
Message-ID<nsgtrq$i38$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#373185
On 09/28/2016 09:52 AM, Snit wrote:
> On 9/28/16, 8:22 AM, in article nsgn7f$ose$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
> <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>
>> On 09/27/2016 07:07 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 9/27/16, 5:30 PM, in article nsf2v0$7ue$2@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
>>> <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>>>> What have you got against putin?
>>>>>> All he wanted to do was do business.  Yet Obama has a lot of hardware on
>>>>>> his border.  Russia doesn't have a base in our hemisphere.  They only
>>>>>> have two.  So who is surrounding who?
>>>>>> At least Trump can do business and get a better deal than Hillary ever
>>>>>> will.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have been pretty much fighting proxy wars with them for some time.
>>>>
>>>> Agree, and all of it was designed to start a very chaotic war, which
>>>> later on would be noted as WWIII.  WWIII doesn't have to be nuclear, as
>>>> all foreign leaders know that that is a no-win situation.  Everybody loses.
>>>
>>> But why celebrate Trump being friendly with Putin?
>>
>> So, you want WWIII I take it?
>
> Not at all.
>
>> That's why, because Trump doesn't want war either, and neither does putin.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqD8lIdIMRo
>
> Trump is an emotional child who jumps at the slightest provocation. He
> wanted to attack people for name calling. He would lead to massive war.
>

Not true at all.
It was Clintons' lies he is telling to the public is all.
So that makes him an emotional child??

I don't think so.

> So will Clinton.
>

She will and she has no limitations watching a lot of people get killed.
She reminds me of a serial killer.

>>>
>>>>>>> Hey, were you not against those who are supported by Soviets?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> During that era, yes.  But the Soviets no longer exist.  Since the early
>>>>>> 90s, the KGB was dismantled.  Now, because of the dishonest manner in
>>>>>> what this country is doing, he now has started the KGB back up.
>>>>>
>>>>> He who?
>>>>
>>>> Putin, of course.
>>>
>>> Hard to know with you if you mean that or Obama starting it in the US.
>>>
>>
>> The dishonesty was started by Obama.  The above video should explain
>> that point very well.
>
> I did not watch it all... can you point to where he backs, no less even
> says, anything about blaming Obama?

Yes, he has blamed Obama.
You should then watch Trumps speech then to figure it out.

>
>>>>>>>> If you are in your early 30s and WWIII starts, better get your affairs
>>>>>>>> in order as you'll get drafted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Both Clinton and Trump will lead to war.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just Clinton.  Trump won't do it as it isn't in his nature to do so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Belittle him in any way and he will want to prove he is a man.
>>>>
>>>> How so?  Far as I can see and tell, he doesn't have to prove that point.
>>>
>>> He does. Heck, look at his whole "hands" obsession. He is as insecure as
>>> many of those who troll COLA. :)
>>>
>>
>> So far, I haven't seen any of Trumps talks or speeches showing he is
>> trying to prove he is a man.
>
> Have you watched any where he has not? Listen to him talk about his hands.
> Listen to him brag about his money and his influence and his power.
>

That would make him a great leader.

> He is an emotional child.

So you think.

>
>> He wants to protect americans from our
>> corrupt government and banking system.
>>

So you'd rather get screwed continously by our gov. and banking system?
I don't.

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#373212

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-09-28 11:13 -0700
Message-ID<D4115672.7EC03%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#373197
On 9/28/16, 10:15 AM, in article nsgtrq$i38$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
<Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:

...
>> Trump is an emotional child who jumps at the slightest provocation. He
>> wanted to attack people for name calling. He would lead to massive war.
> 
> Not true at all.
> It was Clintons' lies he is telling to the public is all.
> So that makes him an emotional child??
> 
> I don't think so.

OK, I decided to do a search for examples... easy to find:

<https://youtu.be/yknUyvc8oYk>

We can attack the source... but listen to his actual words. And they are
exactly right: he is a salesman and it is easy to fall for it if you do not
think.

I think we can question if they unfairly selected his comments, but really,
pretty much any time you hear him speak it is the same thing.

>> So will Clinton.
> 
> She will and she has no limitations watching a lot of people get killed.
> She reminds me of a serial killer.

I do not like her but I am not as tied to emotional reactions to her as you
are.

>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hey, were you not against those who are supported by Soviets?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> During that era, yes.  But the Soviets no longer exist.  Since the early
>>>>>>> 90s, the KGB was dismantled.  Now, because of the dishonest manner in
>>>>>>> what this country is doing, he now has started the KGB back up.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He who?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Putin, of course.
>>>> 
>>>> Hard to know with you if you mean that or Obama starting it in the US.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> The dishonesty was started by Obama.  The above video should explain
>>> that point very well.
>> 
>> I did not watch it all... can you point to where he backs, no less even
>> says, anything about blaming Obama?
> 
> Yes, he has blamed Obama.

What time stamp?

> You should then watch Trumps speech then to figure it out.

I have watched Trump... he is all emotion and no thought.
 
>> 
>>>>>>>>> If you are in your early 30s and WWIII starts, better get your affairs
>>>>>>>>> in order as you'll get drafted.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Both Clinton and Trump will lead to war.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just Clinton.  Trump won't do it as it isn't in his nature to do so.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Belittle him in any way and he will want to prove he is a man.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How so?  Far as I can see and tell, he doesn't have to prove that point.
>>>> 
>>>> He does. Heck, look at his whole "hands" obsession. He is as insecure as
>>>> many of those who troll COLA. :)
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> So far, I haven't seen any of Trumps talks or speeches showing he is
>>> trying to prove he is a man.
>> 
>> Have you watched any where he has not? Listen to him talk about his hands.
>> Listen to him brag about his money and his influence and his power.
>> 
> 
> That would make him a great leader.

The fact he is all style (and not a good style at that) and no substance is
not exactly something that makes me think he would be a good leader.

The fact he attacks people who are not of his religion would make him a
HORRIBLE leader. 

The fact he mocks women for their weight and judges them by it would make
him a HORRRIBLE leader.

The fact he is a lousy business man who's only bragging points are how he
screwed others over would make him a HORRIBLE leader.

The fact he has claimed our wages are too high would make him a HORRIBLE
leader.

The fact he denies climate change (except when he is not, and even then he
shows he lacks understanding) would make him a HORRIBLE leader.

The fact he lies continually and contradicts himself and denies his own
claims would make him a HORRIBLE leader.

He has a strong presence... other than that he has few if any qualities to
make him a leader at all. The only way to back him is to focus on emotion
over logic.

>> He is an emotional child.
> 
> So you think.

The evidence backs this.
 
>>> He wants to protect americans from our
>>> corrupt government and banking system.
> 
> So you'd rather get screwed continously by our gov. and banking system?

I never said any such thing.

> I don't.
> 
> 



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#373240

FromGreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com>
Date2016-09-28 14:11 -0600
Message-ID<nsh84k$sbv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#373212
On 09/28/2016 12:13 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 9/28/16, 10:15 AM, in article nsgtrq$i38$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
> <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>
> ...
>>> Trump is an emotional child who jumps at the slightest provocation. He
>>> wanted to attack people for name calling. He would lead to massive war.
>>
>> Not true at all.
>> It was Clintons' lies he is telling to the public is all.
>> So that makes him an emotional child??
>>
>> I don't think so.
>
> OK, I decided to do a search for examples... easy to find:
>
> <https://youtu.be/yknUyvc8oYk>
>
> We can attack the source... but listen to his actual words. And they are
> exactly right: he is a salesman and it is easy to fall for it if you do not
> think.
>

I have. Remember when Bill Clinton during the Monica Lewinsky hearings, 
where he said "It depends on what you mean by is."

> I think we can question if they unfairly selected his comments, but really,
> pretty much any time you hear him speak it is the same thing.
>

And Hillary won't comment on it either, because in this instance she 
lied thru omission.

>>> So will Clinton.
>>
>> She will and she has no limitations watching a lot of people get killed.
>> She reminds me of a serial killer.
>
> I do not like her but I am not as tied to emotional reactions to her as you
> are.

Or is it that she said "I can't help it if people die around me."
Or that the benghazi todo where she said over the death of Ambasadore 
Stevens, "What difference does it make now?"

Who wouldn't get emotional over her statements because of the wrong 
doings she has done to other people and her recklessness of handling the 
problem causing our own people and others to die?

>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey, were you not against those who are supported by Soviets?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> During that era, yes.  But the Soviets no longer exist.  Since the early
>>>>>>>> 90s, the KGB was dismantled.  Now, because of the dishonest manner in
>>>>>>>> what this country is doing, he now has started the KGB back up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He who?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Putin, of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hard to know with you if you mean that or Obama starting it in the US.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The dishonesty was started by Obama.  The above video should explain
>>>> that point very well.
>>>
>>> I did not watch it all... can you point to where he backs, no less even
>>> says, anything about blaming Obama?
>>
>> Yes, he has blamed Obama.
>
> What time stamp?

2016.

>
>> You should then watch Trumps speech then to figure it out.
>
> I have watched Trump... he is all emotion and no thought.
>

So you say.
I do not think that.

>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you are in your early 30s and WWIII starts, better get your affairs
>>>>>>>>>> in order as you'll get drafted.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Both Clinton and Trump will lead to war.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just Clinton.  Trump won't do it as it isn't in his nature to do so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Belittle him in any way and he will want to prove he is a man.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How so?  Far as I can see and tell, he doesn't have to prove that point.
>>>>>
>>>>> He does. Heck, look at his whole "hands" obsession. He is as insecure as
>>>>> many of those who troll COLA. :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So far, I haven't seen any of Trumps talks or speeches showing he is
>>>> trying to prove he is a man.
>>>
>>> Have you watched any where he has not? Listen to him talk about his hands.
>>> Listen to him brag about his money and his influence and his power.
>>>
>>
>> That would make him a great leader.
>
> The fact he is all style (and not a good style at that) and no substance is
> not exactly something that makes me think he would be a good leader.
>

That's just your personal preferences.  To me it looks like his wife is 
very good looking, and of course she married him.

If you think looks makes a good leader, then Obama is pretty ugly.

> The fact he attacks people who are not of his religion would make him a
> HORRIBLE leader.

Why worry about that?  After all, this is our country, not theirs.

>
> The fact he mocks women for their weight and judges them by it would make
> him a HORRRIBLE leader.
>

Yeah, something that happened 20 years ago.  Something that Hillary 
forgot to mention.

> The fact he is a lousy business man who's only bragging points are how he
> screwed others over would make him a HORRIBLE leader.
>

You keep saying that he is a lousy business man, yet he is successful in 
his business enterprise.  That is what you call good leadership.  A 
loser, we don't need for president at this point in time.  I'd rather 
have an ogre that has our own interests at heart and protect us, than 
some psychopathic liar like Hillary.

> The fact he has claimed our wages are too high would make him a HORRIBLE
> leader.
>

He never said that.

> The fact he denies climate change (except when he is not, and even then he
> shows he lacks understanding) would make him a HORRIBLE leader.
>

Only a fools agenda to believe in it.  Many other world leaders don't 
believe in it either.

> The fact he lies continually and contradicts himself and denies his own
> claims would make him a HORRIBLE leader.
>

He doesn't.  Is this snit I'm talking to?  Or is it your other cia buddy 
that has the same play book?

> He has a strong presence... other than that he has few if any qualities to
> make him a leader at all. The only way to back him is to focus on emotion
> over logic.
>

LOL!!!  Trump is a leader, else he wouldn't have come this far.

>>> He is an emotional child.
>>
>> So you think.
>
> The evidence backs this.

What evidence?
You are now running in circles here.

>
>>>> He wants to protect americans from our
>>>> corrupt government and banking system.
>>
>> So you'd rather get screwed continously by our gov. and banking system?
>
> I never said any such thing.

But it is evident that you do want this.
I don't.

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#373261

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-09-28 13:45 -0700
Message-ID<D41179F1.7EC5E%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#373240
On 9/28/16, 1:11 PM, in article nsh84k$sbv$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
<Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:

> On 09/28/2016 12:13 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 9/28/16, 10:15 AM, in article nsgtrq$i38$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
>> <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ...
>>>> Trump is an emotional child who jumps at the slightest provocation. He
>>>> wanted to attack people for name calling. He would lead to massive war.
>>> 
>>> Not true at all.
>>> It was Clintons' lies he is telling to the public is all.
>>> So that makes him an emotional child??
>>> 
>>> I don't think so.
>> 
>> OK, I decided to do a search for examples... easy to find:
>> 
>> <https://youtu.be/yknUyvc8oYk>
>> 
>> We can attack the source... but listen to his actual words. And they are
>> exactly right: he is a salesman and it is easy to fall for it if you do not
>> think.
> 
> I have. Remember when Bill Clinton during the Monica Lewinsky hearings,
> where he said "It depends on what you mean by is."

At least with the Clintons they are god liars. Trump is not even that. Well,
not sure being a good liar is a quality I want in a leader either.

Sigh.

>> I think we can question if they unfairly selected his comments, but really,
>> pretty much any time you hear him speak it is the same thing.
> 
> And Hillary won't comment on it either, because in this instance she
> lied thru omission.

She does that a LOT. A whole lot. Through omission and innuendo and more.
This is going to be used by those who troll but she DOES lie in ways that
are hard to quote... so some of her supporters think she is honest.

Trump does not even do that... he just flat out lies.

>>>> So will Clinton.
>>> 
>>> She will and she has no limitations watching a lot of people get killed.
>>> She reminds me of a serial killer.
>> 
>> I do not like her but I am not as tied to emotional reactions to her as you
>> are.
> 
> Or is it that she said "I can't help it if people die around me."
> Or that the benghazi todo where she said over the death of Ambasadore
> Stevens, "What difference does it make now?"
> 
> Who wouldn't get emotional over her statements because of the wrong
> doings she has done to other people and her recklessness of handling the
> problem causing our own people and others to die?

When I hear those who get so caught up over Benghazi show the same level of
outrage at other deaths I will take them more seriously. YES, Clinton has
said some dumb things about Benghazi but it is not the issue some make it.

...
>>> Yes, he has blamed Obama.
>> 
>> What time stamp?
> 
> 2016.

On the video you linked to!

>> 
>>> You should then watch Trumps speech then to figure it out.
>> 
>> I have watched Trump... he is all emotion and no thought.
> 
> So you say.
> I do not think that.

I gave some examples... I can give more.

... 
>>>> Have you watched any where he has not? Listen to him talk about his hands.
>>>> Listen to him brag about his money and his influence and his power.
>>> 
>>> That would make him a great leader.
>> 
>> The fact he is all style (and not a good style at that) and no substance is
>> not exactly something that makes me think he would be a good leader.
> 
> That's just your personal preferences.  To me it looks like his wife is
> very good looking, and of course she married him.
> 
> If you think looks makes a good leader, then Obama is pretty ugly.

Why bring up looks?

>> The fact he attacks people who are not of his religion would make him a
>> HORRIBLE leader.
> 
> Why worry about that?

Why worry about equality? Why worry about the first amendment? Why worry
about Nazi-like slogans and sentiments?

Because these things matter!

> After all, this is our country, not theirs.

See: the idea that a Muslim is any less an American than you are or I am or
anyone else is just bigoted, Nazi-like thinking. That type nonsense should
NEVER be accepted!
 
>> The fact he mocks women for their weight and judges them by it would make
>> him a HORRRIBLE leader.
> 
> Yeah, something that happened 20 years ago.  Something that Hillary
> forgot to mention.

He STILL mocks women for their looks and for having menstrual cycles and
breast feeding and more.

>> The fact he is a lousy business man who's only bragging points are how he
>> screwed others over would make him a HORRIBLE leader.
> 
> You keep saying that he is a lousy business man, yet he is successful in
> his business enterprise.

Successful in what? Not making much money? Screwing over others? How are
these good things?

> That is what you call good leadership.

How is not making much money a sign of "good leadership"?

> A loser, we don't need for president at this point in time.  I'd rather have
> an ogre that has our own interests at heart and protect us, than some
> psychopathic liar like Hillary.

Trump lies as much or more than Clinton.

>> The fact he has claimed our wages are too high would make him a HORRIBLE
>> leader.
> 
> He never said that.

This is what I mean: his followers have no idea what he has said. Here,
direct video proof he said it... and not as a slip of the tongue or
whatever, but as a talking point he tried to defend! And in one of the
debates!

    <https://youtu.be/MbZ-o1T6F5Y?t=1m21s>

Seriously, no offense but how can you NOT have known this? Again, not some
side issue at some talk he gave where it is being taken out context.

Of course, as with almost all of his views, he flip flops on this like crazy
(even more than Clinton does on her views): <https://goo.gl/qaUfvg>.

He is ALL emotion... nobody can look at his content and agree because HE
does not agree with his own content!

>> The fact he denies climate change (except when he is not, and even then he
>> shows he lacks understanding) would make him a HORRIBLE leader.
>
> Only a fools agenda to believe in it.  Many other world leaders don't
> believe in it either.

If you cease to believe in seasons they still come. If you fail to believe
in gravity you still fall. Who else believes it is not even slightly
relevant to the fact that Trump denies basic science... science that is key
to being able to make decent policy and lead well. His denial of science
makes him a horrible leader.

Remember: Climate change is not even a political topic... except when it is
made so by people denying it. It is science... and it is well supported.

>> The fact he lies continually and contradicts himself and denies his own
>> claims would make him a HORRIBLE leader.
> 
> He doesn't.  Is this snit I'm talking to?  Or is it your other cia buddy
> that has the same play book?

I show, above, where he flip flops on minimum wage. How about his view of
Obama as an American? How about his view on the Iraq war? Banning Muslims?
The height and expense of his wall that will never be made anyway?

Maybe we can turn this around: what policy position has he NOT made major
flip flops on?

>> He has a strong presence... other than that he has few if any qualities to
>> make him a leader at all. The only way to back him is to focus on emotion
>> over logic.
> 
> LOL!!!  Trump is a leader, else he wouldn't have come this far.

He is able to get emotion-based people to get excited. OK.

>>>> He is an emotional child.
>>> 
>>> So you think.
>> 
>> The evidence backs this.
> 
> What evidence?
> You are now running in circles here.

I already showed you where he speaks at the level of a 4th grader... and
where he has no real substance. What else do you need?

>>>>> He wants to protect americans from our
>>>>> corrupt government and banking system.
>>> 
>>> So you'd rather get screwed continously by our gov. and banking system?
>> 
>> I never said any such thing.
> 
> But it is evident that you do want this.
> I don't.

Please do not try to speak for me. Thanks!


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#373382

FromGreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com>
Date2016-09-29 10:40 -0600
Message-ID<nsjg59$9o9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#373261
On 09/28/2016 02:45 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 9/28/16, 1:11 PM, in article nsh84k$sbv$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
> <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>
>> On 09/28/2016 12:13 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 9/28/16, 10:15 AM, in article nsgtrq$i38$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
>>> <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>>> Trump is an emotional child who jumps at the slightest provocation. He
>>>>> wanted to attack people for name calling. He would lead to massive war.
>>>>
>>>> Not true at all.
>>>> It was Clintons' lies he is telling to the public is all.
>>>> So that makes him an emotional child??
>>>>
>>>> I don't think so.
>>>
>>> OK, I decided to do a search for examples... easy to find:
>>>
>>> <https://youtu.be/yknUyvc8oYk>
>>>
>>> We can attack the source... but listen to his actual words. And they are
>>> exactly right: he is a salesman and it is easy to fall for it if you do not
>>> think.
>>
>> I have. Remember when Bill Clinton during the Monica Lewinsky hearings,
>> where he said "It depends on what you mean by is."
>
> At least with the Clintons they are god liars. Trump is not even that. Well,
> not sure being a good liar is a quality I want in a leader either.
>

Masons don't lie.
They police their own.

> Sigh.
>
>>> I think we can question if they unfairly selected his comments, but really,
>>> pretty much any time you hear him speak it is the same thing.
>>
>> And Hillary won't comment on it either, because in this instance she
>> lied thru omission.
>
> She does that a LOT. A whole lot. Through omission and innuendo and more.
> This is going to be used by those who troll but she DOES lie in ways that
> are hard to quote... so some of her supporters think she is honest.
>
> Trump does not even do that... he just flat out lies.
>

So you say that he does lie, but I doubt it.
What would you prefer, someone that will clean up this mess or someone 
that will be business as usual and everybody suffers from it?

>>>>> So will Clinton.
>>>>
>>>> She will and she has no limitations watching a lot of people get killed.
>>>> She reminds me of a serial killer.
>>>
>>> I do not like her but I am not as tied to emotional reactions to her as you
>>> are.
>>
>> Or is it that she said "I can't help it if people die around me."
>> Or that the benghazi todo where she said over the death of Ambasadore
>> Stevens, "What difference does it make now?"
>>
>> Who wouldn't get emotional over her statements because of the wrong
>> doings she has done to other people and her recklessness of handling the
>> problem causing our own people and others to die?
>
> When I hear those who get so caught up over Benghazi show the same level of
> outrage at other deaths I will take them more seriously. YES, Clinton has
> said some dumb things about Benghazi but it is not the issue some make it.
>

The real issue on that one is that she brought down Libya, then ISIS 
stepped in and finished the country off... now she has a route to funnel 
weapons for ISIS into Syria.  Stevens knew it, and was going to reveal 
it.  He got killed because she wanted that kept quiet.
Stevens repeatedly called for protective backup, but she didn't supply 
any help.  But the real biggie here is that only the president can order 
any military support into a foreign country, she cannot.  She didn't 
tell Obama about it.  That pissed Obama off pretty bad.

All it tells me is that she thinks she has a lot of power, when in fact 
she does not.

> ...
>>>> Yes, he has blamed Obama.
>>>
>>> What time stamp?
>>
>> 2016.
>
> On the video you linked to!
>

Should be there somewhere.

>>>
>>>> You should then watch Trumps speech then to figure it out.
>>>
>>> I have watched Trump... he is all emotion and no thought.
>>
>> So you say.
>> I do not think that.
>
> I gave some examples... I can give more.
>

But these are left-wing biased lies.

> ...
>>>>> Have you watched any where he has not? Listen to him talk about his hands.
>>>>> Listen to him brag about his money and his influence and his power.
>>>>
>>>> That would make him a great leader.
>>>
>>> The fact he is all style (and not a good style at that) and no substance is
>>> not exactly something that makes me think he would be a good leader.
>>
>> That's just your personal preferences.  To me it looks like his wife is
>> very good looking, and of course she married him.
>>
>> If you think looks makes a good leader, then Obama is pretty ugly.
>
> Why bring up looks?

Looks like you did.  Or is this the other CIA agent that didn't read the 
turn-over log.

>
>>> The fact he attacks people who are not of his religion would make him a
>>> HORRIBLE leader.
>>
>> Why worry about that?
>
> Why worry about equality? Why worry about the first amendment? Why worry
> about Nazi-like slogans and sentiments?
>
> Because these things matter!

They do?  Yet we still support limited slavery.  Shouldn't that also matter.

>
>> After all, this is our country, not theirs.
>
> See: the idea that a Muslim is any less an American than you are or I am or
> anyone else is just bigoted, Nazi-like thinking. That type nonsense should
> NEVER be accepted!

When they are coming into this country, they are NOT citizens.
And when they manage to get into this country, they are invaders.
It is the law.

>
>>> The fact he mocks women for their weight and judges them by it would make
>>> him a HORRRIBLE leader.
>>
>> Yeah, something that happened 20 years ago.  Something that Hillary
>> forgot to mention.
>
> He STILL mocks women for their looks and for having menstrual cycles and
> breast feeding and more.

I don't think you understood the humour in his comments.  He nailed some 
of these idiots that were using the left-wing tactic of "Politically 
Correct Speech"... which is pure BS.
Trump hires all kinds of people and he has praised the good and smart ones.

Remember Kelly Megyn trying to ask a very stupid question about how he 
treats women?  The question was totally stupid and off topic.
How about Lyndon Baines Johnson?  He used to go thru the secretarial 
pool to pinch womens butts!  Yet we hear nothing of that either.

Or how about Bills treatment of women?  LOL!!!

>
>>> The fact he is a lousy business man who's only bragging points are how he
>>> screwed others over would make him a HORRIBLE leader.
>>
>> You keep saying that he is a lousy business man, yet he is successful in
>> his business enterprise.
>
> Successful in what? Not making much money? Screwing over others? How are
> these good things?
>

He didn't screw over others.  If you did a bad contracting job, why 
should he pay for it?  Just like taking your car to a dealership to get 
it fixed and the mechanic butchered your carburator and then gives you 
the bill... would you pay for shoddiness?  I wouldn't.

You keep bringing in the left-wing lies using their play book.  Why?

>> That is what you call good leadership.
>
> How is not making much money a sign of "good leadership"?
>

If he didn't, then he's just an average businessmen, but there are not 
many businessmen that made as much as he has.  Case in point: Bill Gates.
He made a lot of money doing business.  So much so that he is known as a 
philanthropist.

>> A loser, we don't need for president at this point in time.  I'd rather have
>> an ogre that has our own interests at heart and protect us, than some
>> psychopathic liar like Hillary.
>
> Trump lies as much or more than Clinton.
>

I'd love to see proof of that claim.

>>> The fact he has claimed our wages are too high would make him a HORRIBLE
>>> leader.
>>
>> He never said that.
>
> This is what I mean: his followers have no idea what he has said. Here,
> direct video proof he said it... and not as a slip of the tongue or
> whatever, but as a talking point he tried to defend! And in one of the
> debates!
>
>     <https://youtu.be/MbZ-o1T6F5Y?t=1m21s>
>

You didn't follow it very closely then, because he did explain it.

> Seriously, no offense but how can you NOT have known this? Again, not some
> side issue at some talk he gave where it is being taken out context.
>

I think you just didn't understand what he meant.

> Of course, as with almost all of his views, he flip flops on this like crazy
> (even more than Clinton does on her views): <https://goo.gl/qaUfvg>.
>
> He is ALL emotion... nobody can look at his content and agree because HE
> does not agree with his own content!

You can believe what ever you want.  But the entire country is just 
getting sick and tired of being lied to by the current administration.
They want real change, not a giant lie done by Obama.

>
>>> The fact he denies climate change (except when he is not, and even then he
>>> shows he lacks understanding) would make him a HORRIBLE leader.
>>
>> Only a fools agenda to believe in it.  Many other world leaders don't
>> believe in it either.
>
> If you cease to believe in seasons they still come. If you fail to believe
> in gravity you still fall. Who else believes it is not even slightly
> relevant to the fact that Trump denies basic science... science that is key
> to being able to make decent policy and lead well. His denial of science
> makes him a horrible leader.

And if you think that climate change isn't natural, then you are in 
denial of climate history.  I ask you this:  When doesn't the climate 
ever change?

>
> Remember: Climate change is not even a political topic... except when it is
> made so by people denying it. It is science... and it is well supported.
>

No, and wrong.  It has been made political by dishonest people.

>>> The fact he lies continually and contradicts himself and denies his own
>>> claims would make him a HORRIBLE leader.
>>
>> He doesn't.  Is this snit I'm talking to?  Or is it your other cia buddy
>> that has the same play book?
>
> I show, above, where he flip flops on minimum wage. How about his view of
> Obama as an American? How about his view on the Iraq war? Banning Muslims?
> The height and expense of his wall that will never be made anyway?
>

Again, these are things taken out of the left-wing play book.  All 
twisted lies.

> Maybe we can turn this around: what policy position has he NOT made major
> flip flops on?
>

He hasn't.  Just that the left-wing plus the bankers twist things around 
to make it appear he is flip-flopping.  A lie is still a lie.

>>> He has a strong presence... other than that he has few if any qualities to
>>> make him a leader at all. The only way to back him is to focus on emotion
>>> over logic.
>>
>> LOL!!!  Trump is a leader, else he wouldn't have come this far.
>
> He is able to get emotion-based people to get excited. OK.
>

Guffaw!!!  As I've stated before, people are just sick and tired of the 
same old garbage day after day.
All people are emotional, so using the excuse that he is emotional is a 
rather goofy left-wing playbook nonsense, just like politically correct 
speech.  Do you want a Robot for president then?

>>>>> He is an emotional child.
>>>>
>>>> So you think.
>>>
>>> The evidence backs this.
>>
>> What evidence?
>> You are now running in circles here.
>
> I already showed you where he speaks at the level of a 4th grader... and
> where he has no real substance. What else do you need?

The hard facts, which you haven't given me yet.
Of course you'll talk this point over and over again.

>
>>>>>> He wants to protect americans from our
>>>>>> corrupt government and banking system.
>>>>
>>>> So you'd rather get screwed continously by our gov. and banking system?
>>>
>>> I never said any such thing.
>>
>> But it is evident that you do want this.
>> I don't.
>
> Please do not try to speak for me. Thanks!
>

Your words speak what you evidently want.
Now log this into the turn-over log so that your other CIA buddy can get 
synched up this time.
LOL!!!

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#373446

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-09-29 10:21 -0700
Message-ID<D4129BBF.7EDC3%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#373382
On 9/29/16, 9:40 AM, in article nsjg59$9o9$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
<Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:

...
>>> I have. Remember when Bill Clinton during the Monica Lewinsky hearings,
>>> where he said "It depends on what you mean by is."
>> 
>> At least with the Clintons they are god liars. Trump is not even that. Well,
>> not sure being a good liar is a quality I want in a leader either.
> 
> Masons don't lie.
> They police their own.

What we know is Trump lies. He lies a whole lot. He lied repeatedly during
the debate. This is a simple fact. Heck, here are just some of his lies:

<http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/fa
lse/> OR <https://goo.gl/DISoKD>

<http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/pa
nts-fire/> OR <https://goo.gl/xOrqnI>

You can argue that some of those are incorrect... and some might be. But
most are solid, easy to show, irrefutable lies of his. The defense that he
is a part of a group you think is honest is meaningless. He lies. His own
words. That is simply a fact.

Let us just look at a couple:

"Our African-American communities are absolutely in the worst shape they've
ever been in before. Ever. Ever. Ever."

Worse than when they were slaves? I mean, really, his comment is so
amazingly stupid nobody can possibly accept that as reasonable or honest.
Even ignoring slavery, and looking just at recent history, his comment is
just beyond stupid.

"My opponent has no child care plan."

A 30 second trip to her site proves this wrong:
<https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/early-childhood-education/>

Trump flat out lied.

On and on and on. Unlike Clinton, Trump is not even a good liar.

>> Sigh.
>> 
>>>> I think we can question if they unfairly selected his comments, but really,
>>>> pretty much any time you hear him speak it is the same thing.
>>> 
>>> And Hillary won't comment on it either, because in this instance she
>>> lied thru omission.
>> 
>> She does that a LOT. A whole lot. Through omission and innuendo and more.
>> This is going to be used by those who troll but she DOES lie in ways that
>> are hard to quote... so some of her supporters think she is honest.
>> 
>> Trump does not even do that... he just flat out lies.
> 
> So you say that he does lie, but I doubt it.

Your doubt is not relevant... remember, it is a fact he lies a lot. A proven
fact. Denial in the face of facts, such as what many conservatives do in the
face of the facts tied to climate science, are of no value in a conversation
about facts.

> What would you prefer, someone that will clean up this mess or someone
> that will be business as usual and everybody suffers from it?

False dichotomy.

Trump admits to being a part of the problem: he admits to paying very low
taxes and blames the system THEN says he wants to control the system so he
and others in his income bracket can pay even LESS.

His followers, though, are all about emotion. One cannot use reason and
accept these nonsense answers from him.

...
>> When I hear those who get so caught up over Benghazi show the same level of
>> outrage at other deaths I will take them more seriously. YES, Clinton has
>> said some dumb things about Benghazi but it is not the issue some make it.
> 
> The real issue on that one is that she brought down Libya, then ISIS
> stepped in and finished the country off... now she has a route to funnel
> weapons for ISIS into Syria.  Stevens knew it, and was going to reveal
> it.  He got killed because she wanted that kept quiet.
> Stevens repeatedly called for protective backup, but she didn't supply
> any help.  But the real biggie here is that only the president can order
> any military support into a foreign country, she cannot.  She didn't
> tell Obama about it.  That pissed Obama off pretty bad.
> 
> All it tells me is that she thinks she has a lot of power, when in fact
> she does not.

Clinton screwed up heavily in Libya. No argument here. Then again, when the
Republicans pulled funding from embassy security they ALSO screwed up. You
never hear the media talk about that... the so-called "liberal" media.

Why do you think that is?

> 
>> ...
>>>>> Yes, he has blamed Obama.
>>>> 
>>>> What time stamp?
>>> 
>>> 2016.
>> 
>> On the video you linked to!
> 
> Should be there somewhere.

But, as far as you can tell, it is not. I think that settles things. OK.

>>>> 
>>>>> You should then watch Trumps speech then to figure it out.
>>>> 
>>>> I have watched Trump... he is all emotion and no thought.
>>> 
>>> So you say.
>>> I do not think that.
>> 
>> I gave some examples... I can give more.
> 
> But these are left-wing biased lies.

When you deem videos of Trump doing as I note he does, and direct quotes of
him doing as I note he does, to be "liberal" it comes down to you are simply
rejecting facts and deeming reality to be "liberal."

To a large extent I think you are right: being liberal means to accept facts
more than being conservative does. Being conservative generally means
denying reality, such as climate science and even direct videos of people
saying things.

Again: it is not as if I am pointing to videos of a misspeak at some small
gathering... ALL politicians have those. No consequence. I pointed to a
video, from FOX (a very conservative source) showing Trump say IN A DEBATE
that wages were too high.

And you dismiss this as coming from a liberal source... ignoring the fact
that Fox is grossly conservative (and, being conservative grossly in
accurate in many of their claims -- more so than any other mainstream media
source) and it was a direct video of Trump in a debate.

You will never speak to the actual fact: yes, Trump did directly say that
WAGES are too high. Absolutely. And not as a mistake but as a part of an
argument he was making about why China gets jobs... they have lower wages.

>> ...
>>>>>> Have you watched any where he has not? Listen to him talk about his
>>>>>> hands.
>>>>>> Listen to him brag about his money and his influence and his power.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That would make him a great leader.
>>>> 
>>>> The fact he is all style (and not a good style at that) and no substance is
>>>> not exactly something that makes me think he would be a good leader.
>>> 
>>> That's just your personal preferences.  To me it looks like his wife is
>>> very good looking, and of course she married him.
>>> 
>>> If you think looks makes a good leader, then Obama is pretty ugly.
>> 
>> Why bring up looks?
> 
> Looks like you did.

Nope. But nice attempt to turn things around. Trump speaks of looks often...
esp. of women. And he makes horrid sexist attacks. But his supporters do not
care. 

> Or is this the other CIA agent that didn't read the
> turn-over log.
> 
>> 
>>>> The fact he attacks people who are not of his religion would make him a
>>>> HORRIBLE leader.
>>> 
>>> Why worry about that?
>> 
>> Why worry about equality? Why worry about the first amendment? Why worry
>> about Nazi-like slogans and sentiments?
>> 
>> Because these things matter!
> 
> They do?  Yet we still support limited slavery.  Shouldn't that also matter.

It does matter... and it is one of the things liberals are fighting against
(well, some). Was a big part of Sander's movement, for example. But it is
also not relevant to the bigger picture here:

The fact Trump attacks people who are not of his religion would make him a
HORRIBLE leader. You asked why. I noted why... and you worked to change the
topic.

>>> After all, this is our country, not theirs.
>> 
>> See: the idea that a Muslim is any less an American than you are or I am or
>> anyone else is just bigoted, Nazi-like thinking. That type nonsense should
>> NEVER be accepted!
> 
> When they are coming into this country, they are NOT citizens.

When American Muslims come to this country they remain citizens. Does not
matter where they have been. Does not mean that there are non-American
Muslims, but OF MUSLIMS IN GENERAL you said this is not their country. That
included MUSLIM AMERICANS.

And you are flat out wrong. Muslim Americans are as American as any other
American. They have the same rights as any other American.

And Muslim refugees have as many rights as any other refugees.

> And when they manage to get into this country, they are invaders.
> It is the law.

Replace what you just said with Christians... do you think Christian
Americans and Christian refugees are "invaders"? Of course not. As such your
claim is absolutely, unabashedly, bigoted.
 
>>>> The fact he mocks women for their weight and judges them by it would make
>>>> him a HORRRIBLE leader.
>>> 
>>> Yeah, something that happened 20 years ago.  Something that Hillary
>>> forgot to mention.
>> 
>> He STILL mocks women for their looks and for having menstrual cycles and
>> breast feeding and more.
> 
> I don't think you understood the humour in his comments.

Sure I did... he mocks women for their looks, for them having menstrual
cycles, for breast feeding, and more. He is repulsive and bigoted and nasty.

I understand that very well.

> He nailed some of these idiots that were using the left-wing tactic of
> "Politically Correct Speech"... which is pure BS. Trump hires all kinds of
> people and he has praised the good and smart ones.
> 
> Remember Kelly Megyn trying to ask a very stupid question about how he treats
> women?  The question was totally stupid and off topic.

Nope. Noting his bigotry toward people is a VERY relevant topic about a
president. Absolutely. They should focus on that more.

> How about Lyndon Baines Johnson?  He used to go thru the secretarial pool to
> pinch womens butts!  Yet we hear nothing of that either.
> 
> Or how about Bills treatment of women?  LOL!!!
> 
>> 
>>>> The fact he is a lousy business man who's only bragging points are how he
>>>> screwed others over would make him a HORRIBLE leader.
>>> 
>>> You keep saying that he is a lousy business man, yet he is successful in
>>> his business enterprise.
>> 
>> Successful in what? Not making much money? Screwing over others? How are
>> these good things?
> 
> He didn't screw over others.

He openly admitted he did in the debate and called it "business" and
"smart."

Denial does not change that.

> If you did a bad contracting job, why should he pay for it?

There is no evidence of a bad job... NONE. And he uses the same excuse over
and over.

> Just like taking your car to a dealership to get it fixed and the mechanic
> butchered your carburator and then gives you the bill... would you pay for
> shoddiness?  I wouldn't.
> 
> You keep bringing in the left-wing lies using their play book.  Why?
> 
>>> That is what you call good leadership.
>> 
>> How is not making much money a sign of "good leadership"?
> 
> If he didn't, then he's just an average businessmen, but there are not
> many businessmen that made as much as he has.

We have looked at this and seen that to be a direct lie. He did less well
than the stock market and many others did better. Next.

> Case in point: Bill Gates. He made a lot of money doing business.  So much so
> that he is known as a philanthropist.
> 
>>> A loser, we don't need for president at this point in time.  I'd rather have
>>> an ogre that has our own interests at heart and protect us, than some
>>> psychopathic liar like Hillary.
>> 
>> Trump lies as much or more than Clinton.
> 
> I'd love to see proof of that claim.

See above where I link to a bunch of his lies. If you can show Clinton
making as many I would love to see it.

To be fair, she does lie by omission and in more clever ways than Trump, so
hers are harder to show.

>>>> The fact he has claimed our wages are too high would make him a HORRIBLE
>>>> leader.
>>> 
>>> He never said that.
>> 
>> This is what I mean: his followers have no idea what he has said. Here,
>> direct video proof he said it... and not as a slip of the tongue or
>> whatever, but as a talking point he tried to defend! And in one of the
>> debates!
>> 
>>     <https://youtu.be/MbZ-o1T6F5Y?t=1m21s>
> 
> You didn't follow it very closely then, because he did explain it.

Go on. Show it.

>> Seriously, no offense but how can you NOT have known this? Again, not some
>> side issue at some talk he gave where it is being taken out context.
> 
> I think you just didn't understand what he meant.

I did. He said wages were too high in America and pointed to China with
their lower wages.

>> Of course, as with almost all of his views, he flip flops on this like crazy
>> (even more than Clinton does on her views): <https://goo.gl/qaUfvg>.
>> 
>> He is ALL emotion... nobody can look at his content and agree because HE
>> does not agree with his own content!
> 
> You can believe what ever you want.  But the entire country is just
> getting sick and tired of being lied to by the current administration.
> They want real change, not a giant lie done by Obama.

The current administration is not relevant here.

>> 
>>>> The fact he denies climate change (except when he is not, and even then he
>>>> shows he lacks understanding) would make him a HORRIBLE leader.
>>> 
>>> Only a fools agenda to believe in it.  Many other world leaders don't
>>> believe in it either.
>> 
>> If you cease to believe in seasons they still come. If you fail to believe
>> in gravity you still fall. Who else believes it is not even slightly
>> relevant to the fact that Trump denies basic science... science that is key
>> to being able to make decent policy and lead well. His denial of science
>> makes him a horrible leader.
> 
> And if you think that climate change isn't natural, then you are in
> denial of climate history.  I ask you this:  When doesn't the climate
> ever change?

Nobody said the climate has not changed over time. But that does not excuse
denying facts about man-made global climate change.

But the modern conservative movement is filled with people who deny basic
science... basic facts. When you have a movement such as the conservative
movement that deems facts irrelevant and evidence to have a liberal bias
then you have a movement that is of no value to people who look at evidence
and facts.

>> Remember: Climate change is not even a political topic... except when it is
>> made so by people denying it. It is science... and it is well supported.
> 
> No, and wrong.  It has been made political by dishonest people.

That is what I said: those who deny the facts try to make it political. But
the fact it is happening is not a question (at least beyond any reasonable
doubt). The denial of many conservatives is a sign they reject facts.

>>>> The fact he lies continually and contradicts himself and denies his own
>>>> claims would make him a HORRIBLE leader.
>>> 
>>> He doesn't.  Is this snit I'm talking to?  Or is it your other cia buddy
>>> that has the same play book?
>> 
>> I show, above, where he flip flops on minimum wage. How about his view of
>> Obama as an American? How about his view on the Iraq war? Banning Muslims?
>> The height and expense of his wall that will never be made anyway?
> 
> Again, these are things taken out of the left-wing play book.  All
> twisted lies.

LOL! So quoting him -- showing direct facts -- is a part of the "left-wing
play book." Sure. Liberals tend to look at facts. Conservatives tend to call
those facts "twisted lies" -- as you do, above.

>> Maybe we can turn this around: what policy position has he NOT made major
>> flip flops on? 
> 
> He hasn't.  Just that the left-wing plus the bankers twist things around
> to make it appear he is flip-flopping.  A lie is still a lie.

You did not name a topic. What policy position has he NOT made major flip
flops on?

There may be some but you cannot think of any.

>>>> He has a strong presence... other than that he has few if any qualities to
>>>> make him a leader at all. The only way to back him is to focus on emotion
>>>> over logic.
>>> 
>>> LOL!!!  Trump is a leader, else he wouldn't have come this far.
>> 
>> He is able to get emotion-based people to get excited. OK.
> 
> Guffaw!!!  As I've stated before, people are just sick and tired of the
> same old garbage day after day.
> All people are emotional, so using the excuse that he is emotional is a
> rather goofy left-wing playbook nonsense, just like politically correct
> speech.  Do you want a Robot for president then?

None of that is even relevant to what I said.

>>>>>> He is an emotional child.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So you think.
>>>> 
>>>> The evidence backs this.
>>> 
>>> What evidence?
>>> You are now running in circles here.
>> 
>> I already showed you where he speaks at the level of a 4th grader... and
>> where he has no real substance. What else do you need?
> 
> The hard facts, which you haven't given me yet.

LOL! Keep in mind you deem direct quotes and video -- and NOT of some
one-off comment or mis-statement -- as liberal lies.

When you insist facts are lies we are not even starting from the same place
to try to have a discussion.

Maybe we can try again: will you accept direct proof as something other than
lies? If so then we can move forward... if not I think there is little value
to these rather lengthy posts we share.

> Of course you'll talk this point over and over again.
> 
>> 
>>>>>>> He wants to protect americans from our
>>>>>>> corrupt government and banking system.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So you'd rather get screwed continously by our gov. and banking system?
>>>> 
>>>> I never said any such thing.
>>> 
>>> But it is evident that you do want this.
>>> I don't.
>> 
>> Please do not try to speak for me. Thanks!
>> 
> 
> Your words speak what you evidently want.
> Now log this into the turn-over log so that your other CIA buddy can get
> synched up this time.
> LOL!!!
> 
> 
Keep in mind I am speaking of proved facts: direct quotes and videos... and
NOT of one-off comments or misstatements (everyone makes those). You deem
those as something other than what they are. At that point you are simply
insisting on denying reality.

OK: so my views are based on reality and yours on a fantasy world where
facts do not matter. Not sure what else needs to be said.


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#373559

FromGreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com>
Date2016-09-29 21:45 -0600
Message-ID<nskn4e$qag$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#373446
On 09/29/2016 11:21 AM, Snit wrote:
> On 9/29/16, 9:40 AM, in article nsjg59$9o9$1@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
> <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>
> ...
>>>> I have. Remember when Bill Clinton during the Monica Lewinsky hearings,
>>>> where he said "It depends on what you mean by is."
>>>
>>> At least with the Clintons they are god liars. Trump is not even that. Well,
>>> not sure being a good liar is a quality I want in a leader either.
>>
>> Masons don't lie.
>> They police their own.
>
> What we know is Trump lies. He lies a whole lot. He lied repeatedly during
> the debate. This is a simple fact. Heck, here are just some of his lies:
>
> <http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/fa
> lse/> OR <https://goo.gl/DISoKD>
>
> <http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/pa
> nts-fire/> OR <https://goo.gl/xOrqnI>
>
> You can argue that some of those are incorrect... and some might be. But
> most are solid, easy to show, irrefutable lies of his. The defense that he
> is a part of a group you think is honest is meaningless. He lies. His own
> words. That is simply a fact.
>
> Let us just look at a couple:
>
> "Our African-American communities are absolutely in the worst shape they've
> ever been in before. Ever. Ever. Ever."
>
> Worse than when they were slaves? I mean, really, his comment is so
> amazingly stupid nobody can possibly accept that as reasonable or honest.
> Even ignoring slavery, and looking just at recent history, his comment is
> just beyond stupid.
>
> "My opponent has no child care plan."
>
> A 30 second trip to her site proves this wrong:
> <https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/early-childhood-education/>
>
> Trump flat out lied.
>
> On and on and on. Unlike Clinton, Trump is not even a good liar.
>
>>> Sigh.
>>>
>>>>> I think we can question if they unfairly selected his comments, but really,
>>>>> pretty much any time you hear him speak it is the same thing.
>>>>
>>>> And Hillary won't comment on it either, because in this instance she
>>>> lied thru omission.
>>>
>>> She does that a LOT. A whole lot. Through omission and innuendo and more.
>>> This is going to be used by those who troll but she DOES lie in ways that
>>> are hard to quote... so some of her supporters think she is honest.
>>>
>>> Trump does not even do that... he just flat out lies.
>>
>> So you say that he does lie, but I doubt it.
>
> Your doubt is not relevant... remember, it is a fact he lies a lot. A proven
> fact. Denial in the face of facts, such as what many conservatives do in the
> face of the facts tied to climate science, are of no value in a conversation
> about facts.
>
>> What would you prefer, someone that will clean up this mess or someone
>> that will be business as usual and everybody suffers from it?
>
> False dichotomy.
>
> Trump admits to being a part of the problem: he admits to paying very low
> taxes and blames the system THEN says he wants to control the system so he
> and others in his income bracket can pay even LESS.
>
> His followers, though, are all about emotion. One cannot use reason and
> accept these nonsense answers from him.
>
> ...
>>> When I hear those who get so caught up over Benghazi show the same level of
>>> outrage at other deaths I will take them more seriously. YES, Clinton has
>>> said some dumb things about Benghazi but it is not the issue some make it.
>>
>> The real issue on that one is that she brought down Libya, then ISIS
>> stepped in and finished the country off... now she has a route to funnel
>> weapons for ISIS into Syria.  Stevens knew it, and was going to reveal
>> it.  He got killed because she wanted that kept quiet.
>> Stevens repeatedly called for protective backup, but she didn't supply
>> any help.  But the real biggie here is that only the president can order
>> any military support into a foreign country, she cannot.  She didn't
>> tell Obama about it.  That pissed Obama off pretty bad.
>>
>> All it tells me is that she thinks she has a lot of power, when in fact
>> she does not.
>
> Clinton screwed up heavily in Libya. No argument here. Then again, when the
> Republicans pulled funding from embassy security they ALSO screwed up. You
> never hear the media talk about that... the so-called "liberal" media.
>
> Why do you think that is?
>
>>
>>> ...
>>>>>> Yes, he has blamed Obama.
>>>>>
>>>>> What time stamp?
>>>>
>>>> 2016.
>>>
>>> On the video you linked to!
>>
>> Should be there somewhere.
>
> But, as far as you can tell, it is not. I think that settles things. OK.
>
>>>>>
>>>>>> You should then watch Trumps speech then to figure it out.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have watched Trump... he is all emotion and no thought.
>>>>
>>>> So you say.
>>>> I do not think that.
>>>
>>> I gave some examples... I can give more.
>>
>> But these are left-wing biased lies.
>
> When you deem videos of Trump doing as I note he does, and direct quotes of
> him doing as I note he does, to be "liberal" it comes down to you are simply
> rejecting facts and deeming reality to be "liberal."
>
> To a large extent I think you are right: being liberal means to accept facts
> more than being conservative does. Being conservative generally means
> denying reality, such as climate science and even direct videos of people
> saying things.
>
> Again: it is not as if I am pointing to videos of a misspeak at some small
> gathering... ALL politicians have those. No consequence. I pointed to a
> video, from FOX (a very conservative source) showing Trump say IN A DEBATE
> that wages were too high.
>
> And you dismiss this as coming from a liberal source... ignoring the fact
> that Fox is grossly conservative (and, being conservative grossly in
> accurate in many of their claims -- more so than any other mainstream media
> source) and it was a direct video of Trump in a debate.
>
> You will never speak to the actual fact: yes, Trump did directly say that
> WAGES are too high. Absolutely. And not as a mistake but as a part of an
> argument he was making about why China gets jobs... they have lower wages.
>
>>> ...
>>>>>>> Have you watched any where he has not? Listen to him talk about his
>>>>>>> hands.
>>>>>>> Listen to him brag about his money and his influence and his power.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That would make him a great leader.
>>>>>
>>>>> The fact he is all style (and not a good style at that) and no substance is
>>>>> not exactly something that makes me think he would be a good leader.
>>>>
>>>> That's just your personal preferences.  To me it looks like his wife is
>>>> very good looking, and of course she married him.
>>>>
>>>> If you think looks makes a good leader, then Obama is pretty ugly.
>>>
>>> Why bring up looks?
>>
>> Looks like you did.
>
> Nope. But nice attempt to turn things around. Trump speaks of looks often...
> esp. of women. And he makes horrid sexist attacks. But his supporters do not
> care.
>
>> Or is this the other CIA agent that didn't read the
>> turn-over log.
>>
>>>
>>>>> The fact he attacks people who are not of his religion would make him a
>>>>> HORRIBLE leader.
>>>>
>>>> Why worry about that?
>>>
>>> Why worry about equality? Why worry about the first amendment? Why worry
>>> about Nazi-like slogans and sentiments?
>>>
>>> Because these things matter!
>>
>> They do?  Yet we still support limited slavery.  Shouldn't that also matter.
>
> It does matter... and it is one of the things liberals are fighting against
> (well, some). Was a big part of Sander's movement, for example. But it is
> also not relevant to the bigger picture here:
>
> The fact Trump attacks people who are not of his religion would make him a
> HORRIBLE leader. You asked why. I noted why... and you worked to change the
> topic.
>
>>>> After all, this is our country, not theirs.
>>>
>>> See: the idea that a Muslim is any less an American than you are or I am or
>>> anyone else is just bigoted, Nazi-like thinking. That type nonsense should
>>> NEVER be accepted!
>>
>> When they are coming into this country, they are NOT citizens.
>
> When American Muslims come to this country they remain citizens. Does not
> matter where they have been. Does not mean that there are non-American
> Muslims, but OF MUSLIMS IN GENERAL you said this is not their country. That
> included MUSLIM AMERICANS.
>
> And you are flat out wrong. Muslim Americans are as American as any other
> American. They have the same rights as any other American.
>
> And Muslim refugees have as many rights as any other refugees.
>
>> And when they manage to get into this country, they are invaders.
>> It is the law.
>
> Replace what you just said with Christians... do you think Christian
> Americans and Christian refugees are "invaders"? Of course not. As such your
> claim is absolutely, unabashedly, bigoted.
>
>>>>> The fact he mocks women for their weight and judges them by it would make
>>>>> him a HORRRIBLE leader.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, something that happened 20 years ago.  Something that Hillary
>>>> forgot to mention.
>>>
>>> He STILL mocks women for their looks and for having menstrual cycles and
>>> breast feeding and more.
>>
>> I don't think you understood the humour in his comments.
>
> Sure I did... he mocks women for their looks, for them having menstrual
> cycles, for breast feeding, and more. He is repulsive and bigoted and nasty.
>
> I understand that very well.
>
>> He nailed some of these idiots that were using the left-wing tactic of
>> "Politically Correct Speech"... which is pure BS. Trump hires all kinds of
>> people and he has praised the good and smart ones.
>>
>> Remember Kelly Megyn trying to ask a very stupid question about how he treats
>> women?  The question was totally stupid and off topic.
>
> Nope. Noting his bigotry toward people is a VERY relevant topic about a
> president. Absolutely. They should focus on that more.
>
>> How about Lyndon Baines Johnson?  He used to go thru the secretarial pool to
>> pinch womens butts!  Yet we hear nothing of that either.
>>
>> Or how about Bills treatment of women?  LOL!!!
>>
>>>
>>>>> The fact he is a lousy business man who's only bragging points are how he
>>>>> screwed others over would make him a HORRIBLE leader.
>>>>
>>>> You keep saying that he is a lousy business man, yet he is successful in
>>>> his business enterprise.
>>>
>>> Successful in what? Not making much money? Screwing over others? How are
>>> these good things?
>>
>> He didn't screw over others.
>
> He openly admitted he did in the debate and called it "business" and
> "smart."
>
> Denial does not change that.
>
>> If you did a bad contracting job, why should he pay for it?
>
> There is no evidence of a bad job... NONE. And he uses the same excuse over
> and over.
>
>> Just like taking your car to a dealership to get it fixed and the mechanic
>> butchered your carburator and then gives you the bill... would you pay for
>> shoddiness?  I wouldn't.
>>
>> You keep bringing in the left-wing lies using their play book.  Why?
>>
>>>> That is what you call good leadership.
>>>
>>> How is not making much money a sign of "good leadership"?
>>
>> If he didn't, then he's just an average businessmen, but there are not
>> many businessmen that made as much as he has.
>
> We have looked at this and seen that to be a direct lie. He did less well
> than the stock market and many others did better. Next.
>
>> Case in point: Bill Gates. He made a lot of money doing business.  So much so
>> that he is known as a philanthropist.
>>
>>>> A loser, we don't need for president at this point in time.  I'd rather have
>>>> an ogre that has our own interests at heart and protect us, than some
>>>> psychopathic liar like Hillary.
>>>
>>> Trump lies as much or more than Clinton.
>>
>> I'd love to see proof of that claim.
>
> See above where I link to a bunch of his lies. If you can show Clinton
> making as many I would love to see it.
>
> To be fair, she does lie by omission and in more clever ways than Trump, so
> hers are harder to show.
>
>>>>> The fact he has claimed our wages are too high would make him a HORRIBLE
>>>>> leader.
>>>>
>>>> He never said that.
>>>
>>> This is what I mean: his followers have no idea what he has said. Here,
>>> direct video proof he said it... and not as a slip of the tongue or
>>> whatever, but as a talking point he tried to defend! And in one of the
>>> debates!
>>>
>>>     <https://youtu.be/MbZ-o1T6F5Y?t=1m21s>
>>
>> You didn't follow it very closely then, because he did explain it.
>
> Go on. Show it.
>
>>> Seriously, no offense but how can you NOT have known this? Again, not some
>>> side issue at some talk he gave where it is being taken out context.
>>
>> I think you just didn't understand what he meant.
>
> I did. He said wages were too high in America and pointed to China with
> their lower wages.
>
>>> Of course, as with almost all of his views, he flip flops on this like crazy
>>> (even more than Clinton does on her views): <https://goo.gl/qaUfvg>.
>>>
>>> He is ALL emotion... nobody can look at his content and agree because HE
>>> does not agree with his own content!
>>
>> You can believe what ever you want.  But the entire country is just
>> getting sick and tired of being lied to by the current administration.
>> They want real change, not a giant lie done by Obama.
>
> The current administration is not relevant here.
>
>>>
>>>>> The fact he denies climate change (except when he is not, and even then he
>>>>> shows he lacks understanding) would make him a HORRIBLE leader.
>>>>
>>>> Only a fools agenda to believe in it.  Many other world leaders don't
>>>> believe in it either.
>>>
>>> If you cease to believe in seasons they still come. If you fail to believe
>>> in gravity you still fall. Who else believes it is not even slightly
>>> relevant to the fact that Trump denies basic science... science that is key
>>> to being able to make decent policy and lead well. His denial of science
>>> makes him a horrible leader.
>>
>> And if you think that climate change isn't natural, then you are in
>> denial of climate history.  I ask you this:  When doesn't the climate
>> ever change?
>
> Nobody said the climate has not changed over time. But that does not excuse
> denying facts about man-made global climate change.
>
> But the modern conservative movement is filled with people who deny basic
> science... basic facts. When you have a movement such as the conservative
> movement that deems facts irrelevant and evidence to have a liberal bias
> then you have a movement that is of no value to people who look at evidence
> and facts.
>
>>> Remember: Climate change is not even a political topic... except when it is
>>> made so by people denying it. It is science... and it is well supported.
>>
>> No, and wrong.  It has been made political by dishonest people.
>
> That is what I said: those who deny the facts try to make it political. But
> the fact it is happening is not a question (at least beyond any reasonable
> doubt). The denial of many conservatives is a sign they reject facts.
>
>>>>> The fact he lies continually and contradicts himself and denies his own
>>>>> claims would make him a HORRIBLE leader.
>>>>
>>>> He doesn't.  Is this snit I'm talking to?  Or is it your other cia buddy
>>>> that has the same play book?
>>>
>>> I show, above, where he flip flops on minimum wage. How about his view of
>>> Obama as an American? How about his view on the Iraq war? Banning Muslims?
>>> The height and expense of his wall that will never be made anyway?
>>
>> Again, these are things taken out of the left-wing play book.  All
>> twisted lies.
>
> LOL! So quoting him -- showing direct facts -- is a part of the "left-wing
> play book." Sure. Liberals tend to look at facts. Conservatives tend to call
> those facts "twisted lies" -- as you do, above.
>
>>> Maybe we can turn this around: what policy position has he NOT made major
>>> flip flops on?
>>
>> He hasn't.  Just that the left-wing plus the bankers twist things around
>> to make it appear he is flip-flopping.  A lie is still a lie.
>
> You did not name a topic. What policy position has he NOT made major flip
> flops on?
>
> There may be some but you cannot think of any.
>
>>>>> He has a strong presence... other than that he has few if any qualities to
>>>>> make him a leader at all. The only way to back him is to focus on emotion
>>>>> over logic.
>>>>
>>>> LOL!!!  Trump is a leader, else he wouldn't have come this far.
>>>
>>> He is able to get emotion-based people to get excited. OK.
>>
>> Guffaw!!!  As I've stated before, people are just sick and tired of the
>> same old garbage day after day.
>> All people are emotional, so using the excuse that he is emotional is a
>> rather goofy left-wing playbook nonsense, just like politically correct
>> speech.  Do you want a Robot for president then?
>
> None of that is even relevant to what I said.

It is very relevant to this country.
That's why the L.A. Times poll shows him way ahead of Hillary as 
compared to the bogus CNN poll.
There are other polls as well showing him way ahead.
Now look at BuzzFeed where they have their poll on who won the 1st 
debate.   97% out of 11.5 million votes to Trump... 1% other 
candidate... 1% to undecided ... and 1% to Hillary, which came in last.
And BuzzFeed is usually a liberal site.

>
>>>>>>> He is an emotional child.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you think.
>>>>>
>>>>> The evidence backs this.
>>>>
>>>> What evidence?
>>>> You are now running in circles here.
>>>
>>> I already showed you where he speaks at the level of a 4th grader... and
>>> where he has no real substance. What else do you need?
>>
>> The hard facts, which you haven't given me yet.
>
> LOL! Keep in mind you deem direct quotes and video -- and NOT of some
> one-off comment or mis-statement -- as liberal lies.
>
> When you insist facts are lies we are not even starting from the same place
> to try to have a discussion.

They aren't facts... they're distortions.

>
> Maybe we can try again: will you accept direct proof as something other than
> lies? If so then we can move forward... if not I think there is little value
> to these rather lengthy posts we share.
>

You'll never find any real truth out there from any website.
You won't believe what Alex Jones says, so why should I believe in your 
choice of sites?

>> Of course you'll talk this point over and over again.
>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> He wants to protect americans from our
>>>>>>>> corrupt government and banking system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you'd rather get screwed continously by our gov. and banking system?
>>>>>
>>>>> I never said any such thing.
>>>>
>>>> But it is evident that you do want this.
>>>> I don't.
>>>
>>> Please do not try to speak for me. Thanks!
>>>
>>
>> Your words speak what you evidently want.
>> Now log this into the turn-over log so that your other CIA buddy can get
>> synched up this time.
>> LOL!!!
>>
>>
> Keep in mind I am speaking of proved facts: direct quotes and videos... and
> NOT of one-off comments or misstatements (everyone makes those). You deem
> those as something other than what they are. At that point you are simply
> insisting on denying reality.

Your proved facts are nothing more than left-wing distorted or reversed 
in favor of Hillary.

>
> OK: so my views are based on reality and yours on a fantasy world where
> facts do not matter. Not sure what else needs to be said.
>
>
It seems you have that a bit backward.

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#373564

FromJim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org>
Date2016-09-30 03:55 +0000
Message-ID<e56627Fs80iU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#373559
On 2016-09-30, GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
> On 09/29/2016 11:21 AM, Snit wrote:
>>> LOL!!!
>>>
>>>
>> Keep in mind I am speaking of proved facts: direct quotes and videos... and
>> NOT of one-off comments or misstatements (everyone makes those). You deem
>> those as something other than what they are. At that point you are simply
>> insisting on denying reality.
>
> Your proved facts are nothing more than left-wing distorted or reversed 
> in favor of Hillary.
>
>>
>> OK: so my views are based on reality and yours on a fantasy world where
>> facts do not matter. Not sure what else needs to be said.
>>
>>
> It seems you have that a bit backward.
>

greycloud, currently you and Peter Kohlman are the only people in COLA 
replying to snit, The Prescott Parasite.

Why not join us in ignoring him?

Just a thought.

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#373599

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-09-29 21:08 -0700
Message-ID<D4133337.7EEBA%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#373564
On 9/29/16, 8:55 PM, in article e56627Fs80iU4@mid.individual.net, "Jim
Polaski" <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> wrote:

> On 2016-09-30, GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>> On 09/29/2016 11:21 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>> LOL!!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> Keep in mind I am speaking of proved facts: direct quotes and videos... and
>>> NOT of one-off comments or misstatements (everyone makes those). You deem
>>> those as something other than what they are. At that point you are simply
>>> insisting on denying reality.
>> 
>> Your proved facts are nothing more than left-wing distorted or reversed
>> in favor of Hillary.
>> 
>>> 
>>> OK: so my views are based on reality and yours on a fantasy world where
>>> facts do not matter. Not sure what else needs to be said.
>>> 
>>> 
>> It seems you have that a bit backward.
>> 
> 
> greycloud, currently you and Peter Kohlman are the only people in COLA
> replying to snit, The Prescott Parasite.
> 
> Why not join us in ignoring him?
> 
> Just a thought.

You talk about me more than anyone. You think I am your personal Captain
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#373656

FromSilver Slimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2016-09-30 08:31 -0400
Message-ID<nslluf$hco$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#373564
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On 2016-09-29 11:55 PM, Jim Polaski wrote:
> On 2016-09-30, GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>> On 09/29/2016 11:21 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>> LOL!!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> Keep in mind I am speaking of proved facts: direct quotes and
>>> videos... and NOT of one-off comments or misstatements
>>> (everyone makes those). You deem those as something other than
>>> what they are. At that point you are simply insisting on
>>> denying reality.
>> 
>> Your proved facts are nothing more than left-wing distorted or
>> reversed in favor of Hillary.
>> 
>>> 
>>> OK: so my views are based on reality and yours on a fantasy
>>> world where facts do not matter. Not sure what else needs to be
>>> said.
>>> 
>>> 
>> It seems you have that a bit backward.
>> 
> 
> greycloud, currently you and Peter Kohlman are the only people in
> COLA replying to snit, The Prescott Parasite.
> 
> Why not join us in ignoring him?
> 
> Just a thought.

+1


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#373712

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-09-30 08:23 -0700
Message-ID<D413D168.7EF81%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#373656
On 9/30/16, 5:31 AM, in article nslluf$hco$2@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<.m@nsn.s> wrote:

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> On 2016-09-29 11:55 PM, Jim Polaski wrote:
>> On 2016-09-30, GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>>> On 09/29/2016 11:21 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>>> LOL!!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> Keep in mind I am speaking of proved facts: direct quotes and
>>>> videos... and NOT of one-off comments or misstatements
>>>> (everyone makes those). You deem those as something other than
>>>> what they are. At that point you are simply insisting on
>>>> denying reality.
>>> 
>>> Your proved facts are nothing more than left-wing distorted or
>>> reversed in favor of Hillary.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> OK: so my views are based on reality and yours on a fantasy
>>>> world where facts do not matter. Not sure what else needs to be
>>>> said.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> It seems you have that a bit backward.
>>> 
>> 
>> greycloud, currently you and Peter Kohlman are the only people in
>> COLA replying to snit, The Prescott Parasite.
>> 
>> Why not join us in ignoring him?
>> 
>> Just a thought.
> 
> +1
> 
> 
> - -- 
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<https://goo.gl/ZMXDjt>


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#373803

FromGreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com>
Date2016-09-30 14:35 -0600
Message-ID<nsmia2$naj$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#373564
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On 09/29/2016 09:55 PM, Jim Polaski wrote:
> On 2016-09-30, GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
>> On 09/29/2016 11:21 AM, Snit wrote:
>>>> LOL!!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> Keep in mind I am speaking of proved facts: direct quotes and
>>> videos... and NOT of one-off comments or misstatements
>>> (everyone makes those). You deem those as something other than
>>> what they are. At that point you are simply insisting on
>>> denying reality.
>> 
>> Your proved facts are nothing more than left-wing distorted or
>> reversed in favor of Hillary.
>> 
>>> 
>>> OK: so my views are based on reality and yours on a fantasy
>>> world where facts do not matter. Not sure what else needs to be
>>> said.
>>> 
>>> 
>> It seems you have that a bit backward.
>> 
> 
> greycloud, currently you and Peter Kohlman are the only people in
> COLA replying to snit, The Prescott Parasite.
> 
> Why not join us in ignoring him?
> 
> Just a thought.
> 

As soon as I get thunderTurd set up with pgp signing I will.

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#373827

FromMarek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
Date2016-09-30 21:42 +0000
Message-ID<Z-GdndbEru6vQXPKnZ2dnUU7-aGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#373803
On 2016-09-30, Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> wrote:
> Excellent!
> I'm switching to Thunderbird as well. I don't have a prayer of making 
> this work in slrn.

I'll make a video showing how I do it with slrn. The signing is a macro,
but the encryption I do all manually. I've become quite fast at it. But
on the video I am sure those who watch me do it will think, HOLY COW. I
even do the > in the messages manually. It's easy when you get used to
it. I'm pretty quick at it now. 

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#373837

FromMarek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
Date2016-09-30 21:55 +0000
Message-ID<Z-GdndDEru7QQnPKnZ2dnUU7-aGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#373827
On 2016-09-30, Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> wrote:
> On 2016-09-30, Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:
>> On 2016-09-30, Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> wrote:
>>> Excellent!
>>> I'm switching to Thunderbird as well. I don't have a prayer of making 
>>> this work in slrn.
>>
>> I'll make a video showing how I do it with slrn. The signing is a macro,
>> but the encryption I do all manually. I've become quite fast at it. But
>> on the video I am sure those who watch me do it will think, HOLY COW. I
>> even do the > in the messages manually. It's easy when you get used to
>> it. I'm pretty quick at it now. 
>
> That would be wonderful Marek. I think there are other slrn users here 
> as well so we can all benefit from it.

I do it all in Vim with the help of a script and settings I have setup
in Vim. If you know Vim a little, then this will help. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#373849

FromGreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com>
Date2016-09-30 16:46 -0600
Message-ID<nsmpus$is7$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#373827

[Multipart message — attachments visible in raw view] — view raw

On 09/30/2016 03:42 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
> On 2016-09-30, Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> wrote:
>> Excellent!
>> I'm switching to Thunderbird as well. I don't have a prayer of making 
>> this work in slrn.
> 
> I'll make a video showing how I do it with slrn. The signing is a macro,
> but the encryption I do all manually. I've become quite fast at it. But
> on the video I am sure those who watch me do it will think, HOLY COW. I
> even do the > in the messages manually. It's easy when you get used to
> it. I'm pretty quick at it now. 
> 
As I've said before, you're a good man to have around on stuff like this.
I've been too long out of the loop.
I never figured I'd need to do this in a newsgroup, but it seems I need
to do it, so hopefully this will work.

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#373855

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-09-30 15:38 -0700
Message-ID<D414375D.7F0C6%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#373803
On 9/30/16, 1:35 PM, in article nsmia2$naj$2@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
<Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:

>>>> OK: so my views are based on reality and yours on a fantasy
>>>> world where facts do not matter. Not sure what else needs to be
>>>> said.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> It seems you have that a bit backward.
>>> 
>> 
>> greycloud, currently you and Peter Kohlman are the only people in
>> COLA replying to snit, The Prescott Parasite.
>> 
>> Why not join us in ignoring him?
>> 
>> Just a thought.
>> 
> 
> As soon as I get thunderTurd set up with pgp signing I will.

While I disagree with you greatly, I do not see you trolling as many others
do in COLA. But if you need help setting up Thunderbird I might be willing
to fiddle and help you... have never set it up for PGP though.


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#373858

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2016-10-01 01:05 +0200
Message-ID<nsmr4a$mcj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#373855
The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser babbled:

> On 9/30/16, 1:35 PM, in article nsmia2$naj$2@dont-email.me, "GreyCloud"
> <Cumulus@mist.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>> OK: so my views are based on reality and yours on a fantasy
>>>>> world where facts do not matter. Not sure what else needs to be
>>>>> said.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> It seems you have that a bit backward.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> greycloud, currently you and Peter Kohlman are the only people in
>>> COLA replying to snit, The Prescott Parasite.
>>> 
>>> Why not join us in ignoring him?
>>> 
>>> Just a thought.
>>> 
>> 
>> As soon as I get thunderTurd set up with pgp signing I will.
> 
> While I disagree with you greatly, I do not see you trolling as many
> others do in COLA. 

There is currently only *one* who tries to troll in cola. That is  *you* 
lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser

> But if you need help setting up Thunderbird I might be
> willing to fiddle and help you... have never set it up for PGP though.

And you will never be able to set it up. You simply lack the brains 

Why else would you have posted a message to help you clue in to the basics 
of PGP.

Too bad that nobody really took your bait and provided anything your tiny 
brain might understand

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