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P-E-E claims are pure kaka!

Started bysbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net>
First post2016-04-27 08:54 -0300
Last post2016-04-30 07:35 -0300
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  P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-27 08:54 -0300
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-27 13:13 +0100
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-27 21:41 +0000
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 09:35 +0100
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-28 08:46 +0000
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-28 10:07 +0100
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 11:09 +0100
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:16 -0700
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-28 08:38 -0300
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 12:55 +0100
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:16 -0700
                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-29 08:23 -0300
                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:36 -0700
                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 10:47 -0700
                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-30 08:05 -0300
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-28 10:28 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 15:59 +0000
                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 17:05 +0100
                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 10:45 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Me Sham <osirus47@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-28 09:14 -0700
                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 10:43 -0700
                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 11:06 -0700
                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-28 17:43 -0400
                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 15:12 -0700
                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 15:20 -0700
                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-29 00:54 +0000
                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 18:14 -0700
                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 20:31 -0700
                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-29 04:13 +0000
                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 21:46 -0700
                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-29 04:58 +0000
                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 22:12 -0700
                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 22:23 -0700
                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 09:19 +0200
                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 08:29 -0700
                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-29 17:30 +0000
                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:41 -0700
                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 14:00 -0700
                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 08:21 -0700
                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-28 22:13 -0400
                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 12:48 -0700
                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 12:58 -0700
                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 13:29 -0700
                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 16:57 -0400
                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 14:31 -0700
                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 13:49 -0700
                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 14:05 -0700
                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 00:25 +0000
                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 15:17 -0700
                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-29 09:36 +0100
                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 13:44 -0400
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:15 -0700
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 15:57 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 17:06 +0100
                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 09:22 -0700
                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 10:38 -0700
                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 10:46 -0700
                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 11:14 -0700
                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 12:57 -0700
                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 18:24 +0000
                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 12:05 -0700
                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 12:08 -0700
                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 12:15 -0700
                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 12:43 -0700
                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-04-28 22:30 +0200
                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 13:37 -0700
                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 13:46 -0700
                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 12:59 -0700
                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 16:49 -0700
                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 16:57 -0700
                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 18:00 -0700
                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 18:26 -0700
                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 18:47 -0700
                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 19:27 -0700
                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-29 03:32 -0700
                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 09:21 -0700
                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-04-29 10:59 -0700
                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 07:36 -0500
                                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 07:24 -0700
                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 16:38 +0200
                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 07:50 -0700
                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 17:43 +0200
                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 18:56 +0200
                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 10:41 -0700
                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 20:32 +0200
                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 10:13 -0500
                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 08:50 -0700
                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-02 16:06 +0000
                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 10:16 -0700
                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-02 18:03 +0000
                                                          Re: UnPaid software testers. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 16:46 -0700
                                                            Re: UnPaid software testers. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-02 23:53 +0000
                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 17:36 +0000
                                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 07:36 -0700
                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 16:41 +0200
                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 10:03 -0500
                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 08:13 -0700
                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 10:40 -0700
                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 20:27 +0200
                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 13:43 -0500
                                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 20:56 +0200
                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 11:56 -0700
                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 12:40 -0700
                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 15:45 -0400
                                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 13:09 -0700
                                                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 21:58 -0400
                                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 20:33 -0700
                                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 23:58 -0400
                                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-05-03 09:00 -0300
                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 13:48 -0700
                                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 20:05 -0700
                                                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 21:18 -0700
                                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-03 06:42 +0200
                                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-03 06:59 +0200
                                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 22:27 -0700
                                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 22:23 -0700
                                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 08:17 -0700
                                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:32 -0700
                                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 10:13 -0700
                                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 11:52 -0700
                                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 13:31 -0700
                                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 08:28 -0700
                                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 08:45 -0700
                                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 13:30 -0700
                                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 17:48 -0700
                                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 13:43 -0700
                                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 14:31 -0700
                                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-04 07:01 -0500
                                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-03 09:29 -0400
                                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-03 06:53 -0500
                                                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 16:20 +0000
                                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:56 -0700
                                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 17:49 +0000
                                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 11:56 -0700
                                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-03 21:05 +0200
                                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 12:48 -0700
                                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 19:51 +0000
                                                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 13:34 -0700
                                                                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-05-04 08:38 -0300
                                                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-04 13:53 +0200
                                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 13:35 -0700
                                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-03 21:53 +0200
                                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-03 22:07 +0200
                                                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-03 22:49 +0200
                                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-05-04 08:45 -0300
                                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 09:03 -0700
                                                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-04 17:08 +0000
                                                                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 11:07 -0700
                                                                              Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-04 14:10 -0400
                                                                                Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 11:23 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 13:29 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-05-04 20:45 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 14:26 -0700
                                                                                Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-04 22:14 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 15:39 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Snit digest 218 / 2016-05-04 meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-04 22:58 +0000
                                                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 10:16 -0700
                                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 12:49 -0700
                                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 19:51 +0000
                                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-04 06:50 -0500
                                                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-04 12:20 +0000
                                                                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-04 07:38 -0500
                                                                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-04 13:03 +0000
                                                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-04 22:32 +0000
                                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 18:21 -0700
                                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 18:36 -0700
                                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 20:01 -0700
                                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-05-04 08:57 -0300
                                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 11:35 -0700
                                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 00:48 +0000
                                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kafka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 20:03 -0700
                                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kafka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-04 07:20 -0500
                                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kafka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-05 09:18 -0400
                                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-03 07:49 -0500
                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 13:28 -0400
                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 17:39 +0000
                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 10:50 -0700
                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 11:38 -0700
                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 07:58 -0700
                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 10:42 -0700
                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 13:03 -0500
                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-02 21:20 +0000
                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 18:14 +0000
                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 11:56 -0700
                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 19:07 +0000
                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 12:49 -0700
                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 00:29 +0000
                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 11:53 -0700
                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 12:47 -0700
                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 15:06 -0500
                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 13:50 -0700
                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 19:01 -0700
                                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 22:06 -0400
                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 00:21 +0000
                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-03 01:18 +0000
                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 21:54 -0400
                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 20:15 -0700
                                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-02 23:59 -0400
                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 10:12 -0700
                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 10:23 -0700
                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 10:54 -0700
                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 11:41 -0700
                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 11:51 -0700
                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-05-02 13:24 -0700
                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 11:56 -0700
                                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 17:31 +0000
                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-28 23:33 +0100
                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 01:26 +0000
                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 18:49 -0700
                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-28 23:30 +0100
                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 10:45 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 10:46 -0700
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-28 23:49 +0000
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 11:01 +0100
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-28 23:52 +0000
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-28 06:37 -0500
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 12:57 +0100
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:14 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-28 10:19 -0400
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 09:18 -0700
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-28 12:39 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 16:57 -0700
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-29 08:27 -0300
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 12:24 -0400
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 18:59 +0200
                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-29 19:25 -0400
                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 19:53 -0400
                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-30 09:46 +0200
                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 10:38 -0700
                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-30 13:44 -0400
                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 09:31 -0500
                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 16:35 +0200
                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 07:57 -0700
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-28 08:19 -0300
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 06:56 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-28 10:26 -0400
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-29 08:28 -0300
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 13:39 +0000
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-29 15:49 +0100
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 17:08 +0100
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 10:44 -0700
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:08 -0700
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-28 08:12 -0300
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-28 06:50 -0500
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 13:00 +0100
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 06:49 -0700
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:02 -0700
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-27 20:20 +0000
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 23:51 +0000
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:09 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-29 08:35 -0300
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:34 -0700
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-30 07:34 -0300
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-28 21:26 +0000
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 15:08 -0700
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 00:18 +0200
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 15:28 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 01:34 +0000
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-04-29 01:42 +0000
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-29 11:05 +0000
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 18:50 -0700
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 19:34 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 19:42 -0700
                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 20:20 -0700
                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 20:58 -0700
                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 21:42 -0700
                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 09:16 -0700
                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:22 -0700
                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 11:53 -0700
                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 12:50 -0700
                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 00:30 +0000
                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-30 10:49 -0300
                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-30 08:02 -0700
                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-04-30 15:20 +0000
                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 10:12 -0700
                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 23:44 +0000
                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-01 16:18 -0400
                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 07:26 -0500
                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 07:25 -0700
                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 10:05 -0700
                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 10:25 -0700
                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 11:43 -0700
                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-02 20:52 +0200
                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-02 21:41 +0000
                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 19:11 +0000
                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 12:57 -0700
                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 12:51 -0700
                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 00:26 +0000
                                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-03 01:22 +0000
                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 18:58 -0700
                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 19:00 -0700
                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 20:23 -0700
                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 21:23 -0700
                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 22:32 -0700
                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-02 22:34 -0700
                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-03 09:30 -0400
                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 06:40 -0700
                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-03 15:47 +0200
                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-03 11:11 -0500
                                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-05 09:28 -0400
                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:14 -0700
                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-03 12:27 -0400
                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 16:29 +0000
                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:15 -0700
                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 16:32 +0000
                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 05:33 -0700
                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:07 -0700
                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-03 12:42 +0000
                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-03 14:49 +0200
                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 06:29 -0700
                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:09 -0700
                                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! meat <meat.stretcher@linuxmail.org> - 2016-05-03 16:13 +0000
                                                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:52 -0700
                                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 10:18 -0700
                                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 17:41 +0000
                                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 11:44 -0700
                                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 18:58 +0000
                                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 12:45 -0700
                                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 19:47 +0000
                                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-05-03 21:51 +0200
                                                                          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 14:22 -0700
                                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 12:43 -0700
                                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 14:21 -0700
                                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 11:42 -0700
                                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 12:28 -0700
                                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 12:40 -0700
                                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 13:30 -0700
                                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 17:39 +0000
                                                            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 10:08 -0700
                                                              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 10:21 -0700
                                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 10:50 -0700
                                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-04 10:38 -0400
                                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 07:45 -0700
                                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 11:49 -0700
                                                                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 13:00 -0700
                                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 13:28 -0700
                                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 14:24 -0700
                                                                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 15:00 -0700
                                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 14:26 -0700
                                                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 08:52 -0700
                                                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-05-03 09:48 -0700
                                                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-03 09:30 -0400
                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 04:50 +0000
                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 22:11 -0700
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 19:02 -0700
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-29 06:58 -0500
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-29 08:47 -0400
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 09:30 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 12:39 -0400
                  Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-29 09:50 -0700
                    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-29 19:18 -0400
                      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-02 07:22 -0500
                        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-02 07:26 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:59 -0700
                Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-29 19:15 -0400
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:56 -0700
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-04-29 10:27 -0400
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:04 -0700
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 08:25 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 08:40 -0700
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-04-28 09:01 -0700
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 09:27 -0700
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-27 21:25 +0000
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-04-27 18:45 -0400
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-04-27 23:51 +0100
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-28 07:32 +0000
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-04-28 09:37 +0100
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:10 -0700
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 07:05 -0700
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-28 21:54 +0000
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 15:09 -0700
            Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-04-29 00:33 +0000
              Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 16:41 -0700
    Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-28 06:59 -0700
      Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-29 08:33 -0300
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-04-29 13:46 +0200
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:34 -0700
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-04-29 07:14 -0500
        Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-04-29 10:35 -0700
          Re: P-E-E claims are pure kaka! sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2016-04-30 07:35 -0300

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#352156 — P-E-E claims are pure kaka!

Fromsbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net>
Date2016-04-27 08:54 -0300
SubjectP-E-E claims are pure kaka!
Message-ID<nfq92g$go4$1@dont-email.me>
Productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction has become tool or a myth 
if you will to attack Linux. It was created a while back by our local 
mythomanaic to spew incredible amount his shit. There has been no 
credible, impartial study done on P-E-E with common criteria to evaluate 
all the OSs  on equal footing. Until that day, any claims against Linux 
using P-E-E is nothing but laughable.

Over the years using Linux, my productivity,  efficiency, and 
error-reduction has been at the highest level. That is what Linux is all 
about. No wonder Linux has become the most dominant computing platform 
today. In cola, the come-back is usually the lame “we only want to talk 
about DE”. Pathetic creatures!

Be warned, shouting from trolls will increase further as Linux gains 
more ground. It is only natural!

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#352160

FromDesk Rabbit <me@example.com>
Date2016-04-27 13:13 +0100
Message-ID<nfqa75$k6k$3@deskrabbit.motzarella.org>
In reply to#352156
On 27/04/2016 12:54, Fabian wrote:
>
> Productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction has become tool or a myth
> if you will to attack Linux. It was created a while back by our local
> mythomanaic to spew incredible amount his shit. There has been no
> credible, impartial study done on P-E-E with common criteria to evaluate
> all the OSs  on equal footing. Until that day, any claims against Linux
> using P-E-E is nothing but laughable.
>
> Over the years using Linux, my productivity,  efficiency, and
> error-reduction has been at the highest level. That is what Linux is all
> about. No wonder Linux has become the most dominant computing platform

LOL! Barely reaching only 2% is an arse kicking, not dominance.

> today. In cola, the come-back is usually the lame “we only want to talk
> about DE”. Pathetic creatures!
>
> Be warned, shouting from trolls will increase further as Linux gains
> more ground. It is only natural!
>
>

New nym Fabian?

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#352270

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2016-04-27 21:41 +0000
Message-ID<docq04F6n2dU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#352160
On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:13:39 +0100, Desk Rabbit wrote:

> On 27/04/2016 12:54, Fabian wrote:
>>
>> Productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction has become tool or a myth
>> if you will to attack Linux. It was created a while back by our local
>> mythomanaic to spew incredible amount his shit. There has been no
>> credible, impartial study done on P-E-E with common criteria to
>> evaluate all the OSs  on equal footing. Until that day, any claims
>> against Linux using P-E-E is nothing but laughable.
>>
>> Over the years using Linux, my productivity,  efficiency, and
>> error-reduction has been at the highest level. That is what Linux is
>> all about. No wonder Linux has become the most dominant computing
>> platform
> 
> LOL! Barely reaching only 2% is an arse kicking, not dominance.

Linux is used on far more than 2% of the computers in the world.

Can you not read?  He was talking about overall computing, vs. you and 
your ilk constantly (trying to) frame the discussion in terms of desktop 
environments.  Not only does that not work anymore, but the lines are 
blurring between what constitutes a "server environment" and a "desktop 
environment".


>> today. In cola, the come-back is usually the lame “we only want to talk
>> about DE”. Pathetic creatures!
>>
>> Be warned, shouting from trolls will increase further as Linux gains
>> more ground. It is only natural!

Yep.

-- 
 -v
"Desktops, workstations and servers are and Microsoft
is doing very well. AS well as Linux." -"Slimer"

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#352375

FromDesk Rabbit <me@example.com>
Date2016-04-28 09:35 +0100
Message-ID<nfshpl$8dn$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org>
In reply to#352270
On 27/04/2016 22:41, vallor wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:13:39 +0100, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>
>> On 27/04/2016 12:54, Fabian wrote:
>>>
>>> Productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction has become tool or a myth
>>> if you will to attack Linux. It was created a while back by our local
>>> mythomanaic to spew incredible amount his shit. There has been no
>>> credible, impartial study done on P-E-E with common criteria to
>>> evaluate all the OSs  on equal footing. Until that day, any claims
>>> against Linux using P-E-E is nothing but laughable.
>>>
>>> Over the years using Linux, my productivity,  efficiency, and
>>> error-reduction has been at the highest level. That is what Linux is
>>> all about. No wonder Linux has become the most dominant computing
>>> platform
>>
>> LOL! Barely reaching only 2% is an arse kicking, not dominance.
>
> Linux is used on far more than 2% of the computers in the world.

Got a link?

<Crickets>

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#352379

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2016-04-28 08:46 +0000
Message-ID<doe0ugFe0vgU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#352375
On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:35:15 +0100, Desk Rabbit wrote:

> On 27/04/2016 22:41, vallor wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:13:39 +0100, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>
>>> On 27/04/2016 12:54, Fabian wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction has become tool or a
>>>> myth if you will to attack Linux. It was created a while back by our
>>>> local mythomanaic to spew incredible amount his shit. There has been
>>>> no credible, impartial study done on P-E-E with common criteria to
>>>> evaluate all the OSs  on equal footing. Until that day, any claims
>>>> against Linux using P-E-E is nothing but laughable.
>>>>
>>>> Over the years using Linux, my productivity,  efficiency, and
>>>> error-reduction has been at the highest level. That is what Linux is
>>>> all about. No wonder Linux has become the most dominant computing
>>>> platform
>>>
>>> LOL! Barely reaching only 2% is an arse kicking, not dominance.
>>
>> Linux is used on far more than 2% of the computers in the world.
> 
> Got a link?
> 
> <Crickets>

You really are a noob, aren't you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Public_servers_on_the_Internet

Now do you see your error?

-- 
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"Desktops, workstations and servers are and Microsoft
is doing very well. AS well as Linux." -"Slimer"

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#352381

FromWilliam Poaster <wp@dev.null>
Date2016-04-28 10:07 +0100
Message-ID<7f09vc-hvj.ln1@user-1842.linux.individual.net>
In reply to#352379
vallor wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:35:15 +0100, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>
>> On 27/04/2016 22:41, vallor wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:13:39 +0100, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 27/04/2016 12:54, Fabian wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction has become tool or a
>>>>> myth if you will to attack Linux. It was created a while back by our
>>>>> local mythomanaic to spew incredible amount his shit. There has been
>>>>> no credible, impartial study done on P-E-E with common criteria to
>>>>> evaluate all the OSs  on equal footing. Until that day, any claims
>>>>> against Linux using P-E-E is nothing but laughable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Over the years using Linux, my productivity,  efficiency, and
>>>>> error-reduction has been at the highest level. That is what Linux is
>>>>> all about. No wonder Linux has become the most dominant computing
>>>>> platform
>>>>
>>>> LOL! Barely reaching only 2% is an arse kicking, not dominance.
>>>
>>> Linux is used on far more than 2% of the computers in the world.
>> 
>> Got a link?
>> 
>> <Crickets>
>
> You really are a noob, aren't you?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Public_servers_on_the_Internet
>
> Now do you see your error?

I doubt that DimRabbit will acknowledge it.

In fact Linux is *the* most dominant OS in the world, running everything
from Internet routers, automobile diagnostics, automobile onboard
computers, Smart TVs, smart phones, supercomputers etc.

The only place where windows dominates is on teh desktop, otherwise
in other fields it's rather an insignificant player. 
And despite the anti-linux trolls quoting "web stats" & Linux desktops
being at 1% to 2% (it's already been shown, quite few times, that "web
stats" using the browser are not trustworthy) M$ *themselves* put
Linux desktop usage at around 10% to 12%.

One final thing, M$ profits have *fallen* by 25% & shares in M$ have
fallen by 4%. "Sales were impacted by the ever-shrinking PC market. "
First-quarter 2015: Windows sales were *down* across the board.
First-quarter 2016: Windows sales for the consumer version grew 15%,
while the enterprise version saw an 11% decline. Windows-based PCs
have fallen from a 95% market share a decade ago to 90% today,
according to Morningstar. They lost ground to Apple & Google devices.

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#352392

FromDesk Rabbit <me@example.com>
Date2016-04-28 11:09 +0100
Message-ID<nfsnak$s81$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org>
In reply to#352381
On 28/04/2016 10:07, William Poaster wrote:
> vallor wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:35:15 +0100, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>
>>> On 27/04/2016 22:41, vallor wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:13:39 +0100, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 27/04/2016 12:54, Fabian wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction has become tool or a
>>>>>> myth if you will to attack Linux. It was created a while back by our
>>>>>> local mythomanaic to spew incredible amount his shit. There has been
>>>>>> no credible, impartial study done on P-E-E with common criteria to
>>>>>> evaluate all the OSs  on equal footing. Until that day, any claims
>>>>>> against Linux using P-E-E is nothing but laughable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Over the years using Linux, my productivity,  efficiency, and
>>>>>> error-reduction has been at the highest level. That is what Linux is
>>>>>> all about. No wonder Linux has become the most dominant computing
>>>>>> platform
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL! Barely reaching only 2% is an arse kicking, not dominance.
>>>>
>>>> Linux is used on far more than 2% of the computers in the world.
>>>
>>> Got a link?
>>>
>>> <Crickets>
>>
>> You really are a noob, aren't you?
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>> Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Public_servers_on_the_Internet
>>
>> Now do you see your error?
>
> I doubt that DimRabbit will acknowledge it.
>
> In fact Linux is *the* most dominant OS in the world, running everything
> from Internet routers, automobile diagnostics, automobile onboard
> computers, Smart TVs, smart phones, supercomputers etc.

A few Home routers, the real work is done using Cisco gear and that 
doesn't use Linux.

One of our clients is a specialist in Auto Diagnostics and is launching 
a Cloud based diagnostic system., The devices and the Cloud don't use 
Linux. A Ford dealer we support has loads of diagnostic tools, they use 
Windows laptops.

The Smart TV stuff was covered recently, some do indeed use Linux and 
some use propriety systems, the jury is still out as to whether Linux is 
dominant here.

Ah Android, the malware magnet that is hardly ever updated as the 
carriers would rather you buy new hardware, Apple got that right - IOS 
isn't Linux.

How many supercomputers do you think are in the world and what 
percentage of the total computers do you think it represents, I suspect 
the figures are a lot lower than you would wish them to be.


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#352444

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-04-28 07:16 -0700
Message-ID<D3476939.713A6%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#352392
On 4/28/16, 3:09 AM, in article nfsnak$s81$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org,
"Desk Rabbit" <me@example.com> wrote:

> On 28/04/2016 10:07, William Poaster wrote:
>> vallor wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:35:15 +0100, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 27/04/2016 22:41, vallor wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:13:39 +0100, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 27/04/2016 12:54, Fabian wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction has become tool or a
>>>>>>> myth if you will to attack Linux. It was created a while back by our
>>>>>>> local mythomanaic to spew incredible amount his shit. There has been
>>>>>>> no credible, impartial study done on P-E-E with common criteria to
>>>>>>> evaluate all the OSs  on equal footing. Until that day, any claims
>>>>>>> against Linux using P-E-E is nothing but laughable.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Over the years using Linux, my productivity,  efficiency, and
>>>>>>> error-reduction has been at the highest level. That is what Linux is
>>>>>>> all about. No wonder Linux has become the most dominant computing
>>>>>>> platform
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> LOL! Barely reaching only 2% is an arse kicking, not dominance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Linux is used on far more than 2% of the computers in the world.
>>>> 
>>>> Got a link?
>>>> 
>>>> <Crickets>
>>> 
>>> You really are a noob, aren't you?
>>> 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>>> Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Public_servers_on_the_Internet
>>> 
>>> Now do you see your error?
>> 
>> I doubt that DimRabbit will acknowledge it.
>> 
>> In fact Linux is *the* most dominant OS in the world, running everything
>> from Internet routers, automobile diagnostics, automobile onboard
>> computers, Smart TVs, smart phones, supercomputers etc.
> 
> A few Home routers, the real work is done using Cisco gear and that
> doesn't use Linux.
> 
> One of our clients is a specialist in Auto Diagnostics and is launching
> a Cloud based diagnostic system., The devices and the Cloud don't use
> Linux. A Ford dealer we support has loads of diagnostic tools, they use
> Windows laptops.
> 
> The Smart TV stuff was covered recently, some do indeed use Linux and
> some use propriety systems, the jury is still out as to whether Linux is
> dominant here.
> 
> Ah Android, the malware magnet that is hardly ever updated as the
> carriers would rather you buy new hardware, Apple got that right - IOS
> isn't Linux.
> 
> How many supercomputers do you think are in the world and what
> percentage of the total computers do you think it represents, I suspect
> the figures are a lot lower than you would wish them to be.

How many of servers do they think have someone sitting in front of them
throughout their workday where the user interface is going to be a huge
deal?

I mean, really... their claims are just moving goal posts.


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#352405

Fromsbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net>
Date2016-04-28 08:38 -0300
Message-ID<nfssgi$ed2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#352381
On 04/28/2016 06:07 AM, William Poaster wrote:
> vallor wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:35:15 +0100, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>
>>> On 27/04/2016 22:41, vallor wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:13:39 +0100, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 27/04/2016 12:54, Fabian wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction has become tool or a
>>>>>> myth if you will to attack Linux. It was created a while back by our
>>>>>> local mythomanaic to spew incredible amount his shit. There has been
>>>>>> no credible, impartial study done on P-E-E with common criteria to
>>>>>> evaluate all the OSs  on equal footing. Until that day, any claims
>>>>>> against Linux using P-E-E is nothing but laughable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Over the years using Linux, my productivity,  efficiency, and
>>>>>> error-reduction has been at the highest level. That is what Linux is
>>>>>> all about. No wonder Linux has become the most dominant computing
>>>>>> platform
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL! Barely reaching only 2% is an arse kicking, not dominance.
>>>>
>>>> Linux is used on far more than 2% of the computers in the world.
>>>
>>> Got a link?
>>>
>>> <Crickets>
>>
>> You really are a noob, aren't you?
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>> Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Public_servers_on_the_Internet
>>
>> Now do you see your error?
>
> I doubt that DimRabbit will acknowledge it.
>
> In fact Linux is *the* most dominant OS in the world, running everything
> from Internet routers, automobile diagnostics, automobile onboard
> computers, Smart TVs, smart phones, supercomputers etc.
>
> The only place where windows dominates is on teh desktop, otherwise
> in other fields it's rather an insignificant player.
> And despite the anti-linux trolls quoting "web stats" & Linux desktops
> being at 1% to 2% (it's already been shown, quite few times, that "web
> stats" using the browser are not trustworthy) M$ *themselves* put
> Linux desktop usage at around 10% to 12%.
>

I have always been very skeptical of the 1% to 2%. I ask myself who is 
doing the counting and for what purpose. Are the counters being paid by 
entities that have vested interest in showing low numbers for Linux, I 
think so. Simply because anything above 10% would spark the interest of 
computer users.

10% to 12% seems to be a more realistic figure. A few years back I 
remember reading an analysis by a fellow who put forward sound, 
convincing arguments and placed Linux desktop at that 10 – 12% range.

> One final thing, M$ profits have *fallen* by 25% & shares in M$ have
> fallen by 4%. "Sales were impacted by the ever-shrinking PC market. "
> First-quarter 2015: Windows sales were *down* across the board.
> First-quarter 2016: Windows sales for the consumer version grew 15%,
> while the enterprise version saw an 11% decline. Windows-based PCs
> have fallen from a 95% market share a decade ago to 90% today,
> according to Morningstar. They lost ground to Apple & Google devices.
>

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#352412

FromDesk Rabbit <me@example.com>
Date2016-04-28 12:55 +0100
Message-ID<nfsthl$he4$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org>
In reply to#352405
On 28/04/2016 12:38, sbd wrote:
> On 04/28/2016 06:07 AM, William Poaster wrote:
>> vallor wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:35:15 +0100, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 27/04/2016 22:41, vallor wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:13:39 +0100, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 27/04/2016 12:54, Fabian wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction has become tool or a
>>>>>>> myth if you will to attack Linux. It was created a while back by our
>>>>>>> local mythomanaic to spew incredible amount his shit. There has been
>>>>>>> no credible, impartial study done on P-E-E with common criteria to
>>>>>>> evaluate all the OSs  on equal footing. Until that day, any claims
>>>>>>> against Linux using P-E-E is nothing but laughable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Over the years using Linux, my productivity,  efficiency, and
>>>>>>> error-reduction has been at the highest level. That is what Linux is
>>>>>>> all about. No wonder Linux has become the most dominant computing
>>>>>>> platform
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL! Barely reaching only 2% is an arse kicking, not dominance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux is used on far more than 2% of the computers in the world.
>>>>
>>>> Got a link?
>>>>
>>>> <Crickets>
>>>
>>> You really are a noob, aren't you?
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>>> Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Public_servers_on_the_Internet
>>>
>>> Now do you see your error?
>>
>> I doubt that DimRabbit will acknowledge it.
>>
>> In fact Linux is *the* most dominant OS in the world, running everything
>> from Internet routers, automobile diagnostics, automobile onboard
>> computers, Smart TVs, smart phones, supercomputers etc.
>>
>> The only place where windows dominates is on teh desktop, otherwise
>> in other fields it's rather an insignificant player.
>> And despite the anti-linux trolls quoting "web stats" & Linux desktops
>> being at 1% to 2% (it's already been shown, quite few times, that "web
>> stats" using the browser are not trustworthy) M$ *themselves* put
>> Linux desktop usage at around 10% to 12%.
>>
>
> I have always been very skeptical of the 1% to 2%. I ask myself who is
> doing the counting and for what purpose. Are the counters being paid by
> entities that have vested interest in showing low numbers for Linux, I
> think so. Simply because anything above 10% would spark the interest of
> computer users.
>
> 10% to 12% seems to be a more realistic figure. A few years back I
> remember reading an analysis by a fellow who put forward sound,
> convincing arguments and placed Linux desktop at that 10 – 12% range.

Still low. There has been a number of occasions where I've put forward a 
Linux based solution over a Microsoft one only to be told to implement 
the Microsoft solution. The perception (right or wrong) is that Linux is 
free so therefore has no value and no support. Where I've presented 
solutions without mentioning the underlying OS (Web hosting, spam 
filters etc), Linux has been used.

So I don't think that being at 10% or 20% would make a difference, 
people see things with no price as valueless but if it's got a good 
price tag then it has value even if it might not necessarily be the best 
- Think Apple products.

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#352445

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-04-28 07:16 -0700
Message-ID<D347695E.713A7%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#352405
On 4/28/16, 4:38 AM, in article nfssgi$ed2$1@dont-email.me, "sbd"
<sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> wrote:

> On 04/28/2016 06:07 AM, William Poaster wrote:
>> vallor wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:35:15 +0100, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 27/04/2016 22:41, vallor wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:13:39 +0100, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 27/04/2016 12:54, Fabian wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction has become tool or a
>>>>>>> myth if you will to attack Linux. It was created a while back by our
>>>>>>> local mythomanaic to spew incredible amount his shit. There has been
>>>>>>> no credible, impartial study done on P-E-E with common criteria to
>>>>>>> evaluate all the OSs  on equal footing. Until that day, any claims
>>>>>>> against Linux using P-E-E is nothing but laughable.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Over the years using Linux, my productivity,  efficiency, and
>>>>>>> error-reduction has been at the highest level. That is what Linux is
>>>>>>> all about. No wonder Linux has become the most dominant computing
>>>>>>> platform
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> LOL! Barely reaching only 2% is an arse kicking, not dominance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Linux is used on far more than 2% of the computers in the world.
>>>> 
>>>> Got a link?
>>>> 
>>>> <Crickets>
>>> 
>>> You really are a noob, aren't you?
>>> 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>>> Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Public_servers_on_the_Internet
>>> 
>>> Now do you see your error?
>> 
>> I doubt that DimRabbit will acknowledge it.
>> 
>> In fact Linux is *the* most dominant OS in the world, running everything
>> from Internet routers, automobile diagnostics, automobile onboard
>> computers, Smart TVs, smart phones, supercomputers etc.
>> 
>> The only place where windows dominates is on teh desktop, otherwise
>> in other fields it's rather an insignificant player.
>> And despite the anti-linux trolls quoting "web stats" & Linux desktops
>> being at 1% to 2% (it's already been shown, quite few times, that "web
>> stats" using the browser are not trustworthy) M$ *themselves* put
>> Linux desktop usage at around 10% to 12%.
> 
> I have always been very skeptical of the 1% to 2%. I ask myself who is
> doing the counting and for what purpose. Are the counters being paid by
> entities that have vested interest in showing low numbers for Linux, I
> think so. Simply because anything above 10% would spark the interest of
> computer users.
> 
> 10% to 12% seems to be a more realistic figure. A few years back I
> remember reading an analysis by a fellow who put forward sound,
> convincing arguments and placed Linux desktop at that 10 ­ 12% range.

What "seems" to you is of no relevance. Why not use actual evidence?

>> One final thing, M$ profits have *fallen* by 25% & shares in M$ have
>> fallen by 4%. "Sales were impacted by the ever-shrinking PC market. "
>> First-quarter 2015: Windows sales were *down* across the board.
>> First-quarter 2016: Windows sales for the consumer version grew 15%,
>> while the enterprise version saw an 11% decline. Windows-based PCs
>> have fallen from a 95% market share a decade ago to 90% today,
>> according to Morningstar. They lost ground to Apple & Google devices.
>> 
> 



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#352643

Fromsbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net>
Date2016-04-29 08:23 -0300
Message-ID<nfvg0m$688$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#352445
On 04/28/2016 11:16 AM, Snit wrote:
> On 4/28/16, 4:38 AM, in article nfssgi$ed2$1@dont-email.me, "sbd"
> <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> wrote:
>>
>> 10% to 12% seems to be a more realistic figure. A few years back I
>> remember reading an analysis by a fellow who put forward sound,
>> convincing arguments and placed Linux desktop at that 10 ­ 12% range.
>
> What "seems" to you is of no relevance. Why not use actual evidence?
>

What is relevant to me is what I think.  What you actually think is 
evidence is really a lip service on the internet, the type street 
walkers do when you throw money at them. Anyone can publish anything on 
the internet, it does not necessarily make it true. If you wish to be 
gullible and swallow it whole, that is your prerogative.



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#352696

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-04-29 10:36 -0700
Message-ID<D348E9BC.715DD%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#352643
On 4/29/16, 4:23 AM, in article nfvg0m$688$1@dont-email.me, "sbd"
<sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> wrote:

> On 04/28/2016 11:16 AM, Snit wrote:
>> On 4/28/16, 4:38 AM, in article nfssgi$ed2$1@dont-email.me, "sbd"
>> <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 10% to 12% seems to be a more realistic figure. A few years back I
>>> remember reading an analysis by a fellow who put forward sound,
>>> convincing arguments and placed Linux desktop at that 10 ­ 12% range.
>> 
>> What "seems" to you is of no relevance. Why not use actual evidence?
>> 
> 
> What is relevant to me is what I think.

Ah, so you are just sharing your delusions, not actual evidence or anything
you think others should accept as real. Got it!

Meanwhile I prefer actual evidence:
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/LinuxTrendNov2007-Present.png>

> What you actually think is
> evidence is really a lip service on the internet, the type street
> walkers do when you throw money at them. Anyone can publish anything on
> the internet, it does not necessarily make it true. If you wish to be
> gullible and swallow it whole, that is your prerogative.

I assure you I do not believe what you post since it is just your thoughts /
delusions without any evidence. Thank you for clarifying that.



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#352705

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-29 10:47 -0700
Message-ID<f567b341-3665-4f32-a84a-855d3513603c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#352696
On Friday, April 29, 2016 at 11:36:54 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> On 4/29/16, 4:23 AM, in article nfvg0m$688$1@dont-email.me, "sbd"
> <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> wrote:
> 
> > On 04/28/2016 11:16 AM, Snit wrote:
> >> On 4/28/16, 4:38 AM, in article nfssgi$ed2$1@dont-email.me, "sbd"
> >> <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 10% to 12% seems to be a more realistic figure. A few years back I
> >>> remember reading an analysis by a fellow who put forward sound,
> >>> convincing arguments and placed Linux desktop at that 10 ­ 12% range.
> >> 
> >> What "seems" to you is of no relevance. Why not use actual evidence?
> >> 
> > 
> > What is relevant to me is what I think.
> 
> Ah, so you are just sharing your delusions, not actual evidence or anything
> you think others should accept as real. Got it!
> 
> Meanwhile I prefer actual evidence:
> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/LinuxTrendNov2007-Present.png>
> 
> > What you actually think is
> > evidence is really a lip service on the internet, the type street
> > walkers do when you throw money at them. Anyone can publish anything on
> > the internet, it does not necessarily make it true. If you wish to be
> > gullible and swallow it whole, that is your prerogative.
> 
> I assure you I do not believe what you post since it is just your thoughts /
> delusions without any evidence. Thank you for clarifying that.

Said the guy who points people to his site for "evidence", the same guy who has a history of doctoring evidence, if not flat out manufacturing it.

You're on a roll today, Snit ;)

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#352826

Fromsbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net>
Date2016-04-30 08:05 -0300
Message-ID<ng23bo$vlk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#352696
On 04/29/2016 02:36 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 4/29/16, 4:23 AM, in article nfvg0m$688$1@dont-email.me, "sbd"
> <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> wrote:
>
>> On 04/28/2016 11:16 AM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 4/28/16, 4:38 AM, in article nfssgi$ed2$1@dont-email.me, "sbd"
>>> <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 10% to 12% seems to be a more realistic figure. A few years back I
>>>> remember reading an analysis by a fellow who put forward sound,
>>>> convincing arguments and placed Linux desktop at that 10 ­ 12% range.
>>>
>>> What "seems" to you is of no relevance. Why not use actual evidence?
>>>
>>
>> What is relevant to me is what I think.
>
> Ah, so you are just sharing your delusions, not actual evidence or anything
> you think others should accept as real. Got it!
>
> Meanwhile I prefer actual evidence:
> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/LinuxTrendNov2007-Present.png>
>

Anything posted on your web site can NOT be actual evidence, simply 
because your knowledge of technology is very limited even though you 
want to talk about it endlessly to the point where you want to kill us 
with your repetitive boredom . I would definitely not click on your web 
site link because I think you are a internet criminal.

>> What you actually think is
>> evidence is really a lip service on the internet, the type street
>> walkers do when you throw money at them. Anyone can publish anything on
>> the internet, it does not necessarily make it true. If you wish to be
>> gullible and swallow it whole, that is your prerogative.
>
> I assure you I do not believe what you post since it is just your thoughts /
> delusions without any evidence. Thank you for clarifying that.
>

You are delusional to think, you are the only one with the real 
evidence. That is clear to see! I will let you in on something, 
everybody here in COLA has a very difficult time with the veracity of 
your thoughts. A good place for you to go and shout would be the rubber 
room!



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#352453

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2016-04-28 10:28 -0400
Message-ID<nft6gr$iag$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#352405
On 4/28/2016 7:38 AM, sbd wrote:

> 10% to 12% seems to be a more realistic figure. A few years back I
> remember reading an analysis by a fellow who put forward sound,
> convincing arguments and placed Linux desktop at that 10 – 12% range.


You're an idiot so they sounded like "convincing" arguments, but they 
weren't.

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#352471

Fromronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-28 15:59 +0000
Message-ID<nftc04$2uo$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#352405
On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 08:38:03 -0300, sbd wrote:

> I have always been very skeptical of the 1% to 2%. I ask myself who is
> doing the counting and for what purpose. Are the counters being paid by
> entities that have vested interest in showing low numbers for Linux, I
> think so. Simply because anything above 10% would spark the interest of
> computer users.
> 
> 10% to 12% seems to be a more realistic figure. A few years back I
> remember reading an analysis by a fellow who put forward sound,
> convincing arguments and placed Linux desktop at that 10 – 12% range.

I don't know if it's 10-12%, but I'm sure it's higher than 1-2% -- 
otherwise the WinDrones and iCultists wouldn't be so shrieky about Linux. 

-- 
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#352472

FromDesk Rabbit <me@example.com>
Date2016-04-28 17:05 +0100
Message-ID<nftc63$adj$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org>
In reply to#352471
On 28/04/2016 16:59, ronb wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 08:38:03 -0300, sbd wrote:
>
>> I have always been very skeptical of the 1% to 2%. I ask myself who is
>> doing the counting and for what purpose. Are the counters being paid by
>> entities that have vested interest in showing low numbers for Linux, I
>> think so. Simply because anything above 10% would spark the interest of
>> computer users.
>>
>> 10% to 12% seems to be a more realistic figure. A few years back I
>> remember reading an analysis by a fellow who put forward sound,
>> convincing arguments and placed Linux desktop at that 10 – 12% range.
>
> I don't know if it's 10-12%, but I'm sure it's higher than 1-2% --
> otherwise the WinDrones and iCultists wouldn't be so shrieky about Linux.
>

Well here's the evidence that it's under 2% so where's yours that it is 
higher?

https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0

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#352498

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2016-04-28 10:45 -0700
Message-ID<D3479A5C.71419%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#352471
On 4/28/16, 8:59 AM, in article nftc04$2uo$3@dont-email.me, "ronb"
<ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 08:38:03 -0300, sbd wrote:
> 
>> I have always been very skeptical of the 1% to 2%. I ask myself who is
>> doing the counting and for what purpose. Are the counters being paid by
>> entities that have vested interest in showing low numbers for Linux, I
>> think so. Simply because anything above 10% would spark the interest of
>> computer users.
>> 
>> 10% to 12% seems to be a more realistic figure. A few years back I
>> remember reading an analysis by a fellow who put forward sound,
>> convincing arguments and placed Linux desktop at that 10 ­ 12% range.
> 
> I don't know if it's 10-12%, but I'm sure it's higher than 1-2% --
> otherwise the WinDrones and iCultists wouldn't be so shrieky about Linux.

Given that you have NO evidence it is higher than 2%, why would you be sure.
And, no, your cult-nonsense about your imaginary friends is NOT evidence.



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#352480

FromMe Sham <osirus47@yahoo.com>
Date2016-04-28 09:14 -0700
Message-ID<4ea03b41-14fb-4227-bd8f-7083ee8d6e65@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#352405
On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 6:38:11 AM UTC-5, sbd wrote:
> On 04/28/2016 06:07 AM, William Poaster wrote:
> > vallor wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:35:15 +0100, Desk Rabbit wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 27/04/2016 22:41, vallor wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:13:39 +0100, Desk Rabbit wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 27/04/2016 12:54, Fabian wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction has become tool or a
> >>>>>> myth if you will to attack Linux. It was created a while back by our
> >>>>>> local mythomanaic to spew incredible amount his shit. There has been
> >>>>>> no credible, impartial study done on P-E-E with common criteria to
> >>>>>> evaluate all the OSs  on equal footing. Until that day, any claims
> >>>>>> against Linux using P-E-E is nothing but laughable.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Over the years using Linux, my productivity,  efficiency, and
> >>>>>> error-reduction has been at the highest level. That is what Linux is
> >>>>>> all about. No wonder Linux has become the most dominant computing
> >>>>>> platform
> >>>>>
> >>>>> LOL! Barely reaching only 2% is an arse kicking, not dominance.
> >>>>
> >>>> Linux is used on far more than 2% of the computers in the world.
> >>>
> >>> Got a link?
> >>>
> >>> <Crickets>
> >>
> >> You really are a noob, aren't you?
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> >> Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Public_servers_on_the_Internet
> >>
> >> Now do you see your error?
> >
> > I doubt that DimRabbit will acknowledge it.
> >
> > In fact Linux is *the* most dominant OS in the world, running everything
> > from Internet routers, automobile diagnostics, automobile onboard
> > computers, Smart TVs, smart phones, supercomputers etc.
> >
> > The only place where windows dominates is on teh desktop, otherwise
> > in other fields it's rather an insignificant player.
> > And despite the anti-linux trolls quoting "web stats" & Linux desktops
> > being at 1% to 2% (it's already been shown, quite few times, that "web
> > stats" using the browser are not trustworthy) M$ *themselves* put
> > Linux desktop usage at around 10% to 12%.
> >
> 
> I have always been very skeptical of the 1% to 2%. I ask myself who is 
> doing the counting and for what purpose. Are the counters being paid by 
> entities that have vested interest in showing low numbers for Linux, I 
> think so. Simply because anything above 10% would spark the interest of 
> computer users.
> 
> 10% to 12% seems to be a more realistic figure. A few years back I 
> remember reading an analysis by a fellow who put forward sound, 
> convincing arguments and placed Linux desktop at that 10 - 12% range.
> 
> > One final thing, M$ profits have *fallen* by 25% & shares in M$ have
> > fallen by 4%. "Sales were impacted by the ever-shrinking PC market. "
> > First-quarter 2015: Windows sales were *down* across the board.
> > First-quarter 2016: Windows sales for the consumer version grew 15%,
> > while the enterprise version saw an 11% decline. Windows-based PCs
> > have fallen from a 95% market share a decade ago to 90% today,
> > according to Morningstar. They lost ground to Apple & Google devices.
> >

Usual idiocy from Linux advocates who can't deal with reality: Write your own narrative, dismiss all facts, and replace them with your own made up scenario.

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