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  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 14:41 +0000
    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-07 09:59 -0500
    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 10:26 -0500
      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 18:33 +0000
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 13:35 -0500
          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 19:07 +0000
            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 14:17 -0500
              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 19:32 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 19:33 +0000
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-07 13:49 -0700
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 16:56 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 16:56 -0500
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 22:18 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 22:21 +0000
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 22:31 +0000
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:36 -0500
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 23:17 +0000
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 19:58 -0500
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 22:28 -0700
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 07:20 +0000
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 08:13 -0500
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:36 +0000
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:58 +0000
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 13:05 -0500
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 11:33 -0700
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 10:11 -0500
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:31 +0000
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 17:33 +0000
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:51 +0000
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 12:56 -0500
                                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 18:18 +0000
                                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 18:19 +0000
                                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 13:41 -0500
                                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 19:00 +0000
                                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 14:54 -0500
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 12:35 -0500
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 17:42 +0000
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 12:53 -0500
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 12:48 -0500
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 18:31 +0000
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 19:21 +0000
                                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 19:34 +0000
                                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 15:02 -0500
                                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 11:50 -0700
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 18:40 -0500
                                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 18:47 -0500
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-10 08:41 +0000
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-11-10 03:16 -0800
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-10 11:47 +0000
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-10 22:04 +0000
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:32 -0500
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 22:34 -0700
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 07:12 +0000
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 11:39 -0700
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 10:49 +0000
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2015-11-16 13:08 +0000
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-16 09:24 -0700
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-16 19:09 +0100
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-16 12:27 -0700
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 17:25 -0500
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 22:41 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:45 -0500
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 01:15 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 22:27 -0700
            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-07 13:48 -0700
              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 21:22 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:00 -0500
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 22:08 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-07 17:12 -0500
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 22:34 -0700
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 02:02 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-07 18:27 -0700
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-07 20:54 -0500
              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-07 21:35 +0000
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-07 18:29 -0700
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 01:52 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-08 12:31 -0700
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 20:00 +0000
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 15:04 -0500
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 20:22 +0000
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 15:30 -0500
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 11:53 -0700
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-08 19:37 -0500
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 11:54 -0700
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 11:53 -0700
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-08 09:53 -0500
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-08 16:03 +0100
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 10:07 -0500
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 15:14 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-08 11:43 -0500
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-08 12:33 -0700
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-09 07:30 -0600
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 08:34 -0500
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-09 09:28 -0500
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-09 08:17 -0600
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-11-09 06:39 -0800
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 16:18 +0100
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-09 09:33 -0600
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 18:10 +0100
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-09 11:38 -0600
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:37 -0700
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-09 12:42 -0500
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 12:47 -0500
                                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-09 12:51 -0500
                                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 10:46 -0800
                                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-09 13:55 -0500
                                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 13:57 -0500
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 16:33 -0500
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 11:56 -0700
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:14 -0700
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:21 -0700
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:58 -0800
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-09 15:59 -0600
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 11:55 -0700
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 20:42 +0100
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 14:27 -0700
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 19:11 -0700
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 19:09 -0700
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-11-09 12:06 -0800
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-09 10:03 -0500
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 10:22 -0500
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 17:25 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 12:45 -0500
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 18:08 +0000
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 13:16 -0500
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 18:43 +0000
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 13:49 -0500
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 14:50 -0500
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-08 18:59 -0500
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 19:04 -0500
                                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-09 10:01 -0500
                                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 16:18 -0500
                            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-08 20:12 -0500
                              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 12:53 -0700
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-08 15:45 -0700
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-08 15:45 -0700
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-08 18:35 -0500
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-08 19:48 -0500
                          My desktop is blank. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-08 17:14 -0800
                            Re: My desktop is blank. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 20:17 -0500
                              My desktop is blank. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-08 17:24 -0800
                                Re: My desktop is blank. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 20:44 -0500
                                  40tude_Dialog. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-08 20:51 -0800
                          My desktop is blank. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-08 17:15 -0800
                      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 22:00 +0000
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 22:57 +0000
                          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 18:06 -0500
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 16:53 -0700
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-11-08 16:10 -0800
                        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 12:56 -0700
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-08 12:37 -0700
                  Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 19:27 +0000
                    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 12:59 -0700
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 14:08 -0500
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-07 14:50 -0500
          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 16:45 -0500
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-08 15:49 +0000
          Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 07:59 -0800
            Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-08 16:16 +0000
              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 11:26 -0500
                Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-08 15:47 -0700
              Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-08 15:47 -0700
    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 07:52 -0800
    Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-07 22:58 +0000
      Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-08 01:37 +0000
        Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-08 14:37 +0000

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#331632

On 8 Nov 2015 07:20:40 GMT, Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 22:28:16 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>>> 
>> Why not post the RAW image? We can look to see.
>>
> 
> An example of the phenomenon is posted here:
> 
> http://s17.postimg.org/ie44qjdyn/redtoorange.jpg

Your red channel is maxxed out at 100% so when you raise the the camera's
exposure setting, say an extre stop, tries to compensate by increasing the
green and red channel. It will raise the green but can't raise the red
anymore because it's already maxed out. So basically you end up with the
red channel at 100 percent and green maybe at 50 percent or so. That's why
you get orange.

It's classic.

Now go purchase a disposable camera more suited to your abilities.

-- 
You Ain't The Biggest Fish In The Crotch.

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#331681

On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 08:13:50 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:

> 
> Your red channel is maxxed out at 100% ...
>

So you got lucky.

Does this situation exist in the RAW data as well or is it just
an artifact of the 8-bit conversion?

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#331692

On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 08:13:50 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:

> 
> Your red channel is maxxed out at 100% ...
>

Although essentially correct, the explanation is poor.

The correct explanation, utilizing the appropriate terminology
goes like this:

The two regions differ only in luminosity (brightness) and
not hue.  Increasing the luminosity by modifying the RGB values
according to the BT.709 standard will cause the red channel
to saturate with a resulting shift in hue.

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#331694

On 8 Nov 2015 17:58:43 GMT, Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 08:13:50 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Your red channel is maxxed out at 100% ...
>>
> 
> Although essentially correct, the explanation is poor.
> 
> The correct explanation, utilizing the appropriate terminology
> goes like this:
> 
> The two regions differ only in luminosity (brightness) and
> not hue.  Increasing the luminosity by modifying the RGB values
> according to the BT.709 standard will cause the red channel
> to saturate with a resulting shift in hue.

I'm a simple person so I keep it simple.
No need to complicate things.

-- 
You Ain't The Biggest Fish In The Crotch.

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#331701

On 11/8/15, 12:20 AM, in article
pan.2015.11.08.07.19.02@localhost.localdomain, "Fabian Russell"
<root@localhost.localdomain> wrote:

> On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 22:28:16 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
>>> 
>> Why not post the RAW image? We can look to see.
>> 
> 
> An example of the phenomenon is posted here:
> 
> http://s17.postimg.org/ie44qjdyn/redtoorange.jpg

First thing I did was look at the histogram. I saw the red is maxed out...
then I looked at this advice on this page:

<http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/61386/why-does-bright-red-in-direc
t-sun-come-out-orange> OR <http://goo.gl/l4SfK5>

I am *decent* at Photoshop but not much of a photographer (two very
different skills)... but the comments there at least seem reasonable to
me... and I see others who likely know more than I do also spoke of the red
channel being "blown".


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#331647

On 2015-11-07 5:31 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2015 22:21:25 +0000, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> 
>>
>> I'm waiting for one of the 'advocates' here to comment about the utter 
>> stupidity of your posts.
>>
> 
> Answer this one, Mr. Photoshop guru:
> 
> With my digital SLR (containing an RGB Bayer CFA) , I take a photo
> of a bright red pickup truck under the blazing noontime summer sun.
> The white balance is set at 5400K, but the color of the truck in
> the image is ORANGE!
> 
> What is happening?
> 
> Maybe a call to the Adobe hotline can help you -- at $99.95 per
> call.  LOL!

At least he gets an answer that way. What do you Linux losers have to
offer as an alternative?


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#331678

On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 10:11:53 -0500, Slimer wrote:

>> 
>> Maybe a call to the Adobe hotline can help you -- at $99.95 per
>> call.  LOL!
> 
> At least he gets an answer that way. What do you Linux losers have to
> offer as an alternative?
>

Personal initiative.  It provides more lasting results than being
spoon fed from some commercial clinic.

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#331679

On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 17:31:27 +0000, Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 10:11:53 -0500, Slimer wrote:
> 
> 
>>> Maybe a call to the Adobe hotline can help you -- at $99.95 per call. 
>>> LOL!
>> 
>> At least he gets an answer that way. What do you Linux losers have to
>> offer as an alternative?
>>
>>
> Personal initiative.  It provides more lasting results than being spoon
> fed from some commercial clinic.

That's fine if all your time has no value to you or your employer, 
otherwise the linux 'support' with few exceptions, is pretty poor.



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#331688

On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 17:33:43 +0000, Lloyd Parsons wrote:


> 
> That's fine if all your time has no value to you or your employer, 
> otherwise the linux 'support' with few exceptions, is pretty poor.
>

Well, if your employer does not value professional development but
prefers the clueless automaton then your employer should not be worth
your time.

And if you do not value your own personal development then you
are worth nothing at all.

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#331691

On 8 Nov 2015 17:51:09 GMT, Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 17:33:43 +0000, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> That's fine if all your time has no value to you or your employer, 
>> otherwise the linux 'support' with few exceptions, is pretty poor.
>>
> 
> Well, if your employer does not value professional development but
> prefers the clueless automaton then your employer should not be worth
> your time.
> 
> And if you do not value your own personal development then you
> are worth nothing at all.

There is a reason why free gimp is not replacing expensive Photoshop in
professional corporations. It's the same reason why free LibreOffice is not
replacing expensive MSOffice in professional settings.

As a Linux user, I'm sure you are quite familiar with that reason.

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#331698

On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:56:36 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:

> On 8 Nov 2015 17:51:09 GMT, Fabian Russell wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 17:33:43 +0000, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> That's fine if all your time has no value to you or your employer,
>>> otherwise the linux 'support' with few exceptions, is pretty poor.
>>>
>>>
>> Well, if your employer does not value professional development but
>> prefers the clueless automaton then your employer should not be worth
>> your time.
>> 
>> And if you do not value your own personal development then you are
>> worth nothing at all.
> 
> There is a reason why free gimp is not replacing expensive Photoshop in
> professional corporations. It's the same reason why free LibreOffice is
> not replacing expensive MSOffice in professional settings.
> 
> As a Linux user, I'm sure you are quite familiar with that reason.

Yeah, he's familiar.  But he's also just trolling so bullheadedness is a 
prerequisite.  :)



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#331699

On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:56:36 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:

> 
> There is a reason why free gimp is not replacing expensive Photoshop in
> professional corporations. It's the same reason why free LibreOffice is not
> replacing expensive MSOffice in professional settings.
> 

The majority of businesses acquire MS Office yet they only utilize about
5% of its capability.  They would be better off, i.e. save licensing costs,
with LibreOffice.  So why don't they follow good sense and switch?

Because those aging crones and spinsters in the administrative pool
would be infinitely perplexed and confounded by the trivial change. 

The same thing essentially happened when MS Office introduced the
Fluent ribbon interface with Office 2007.  The office staff could
barely adapt to the "radical" points and clicks.  

You can't teach an old bitch new tricks.  They are literally stuck
with Microsoft forever.

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#331703

On 8 Nov 2015 18:19:44 GMT, Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:56:36 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:
> 
>> 
>> There is a reason why free gimp is not replacing expensive Photoshop in
>> professional corporations. It's the same reason why free LibreOffice is not
>> replacing expensive MSOffice in professional settings.
>> 
> 
> The majority of businesses acquire MS Office yet they only utilize about
> 5% of its capability. 

I wouldn't go as low as 5 percent, but most people don't come close to
utilizing the full power of MSOffice. The same can be said of a lot of
software including the OS itself.

> They would be better off, i.e. save licensing costs,
> with LibreOffice.  So why don't they follow good sense and switch?

Because LibreOffice simply is not in the same class as MSOffice.
It just isn't.
It's great for a free program and quite frankly most home users would be
fine with it.
Put it in a corporate setting ,especially one that shares documents with
others who are most likely using MSOffice and it becomes a mess of
incompatibilities.

> Because those aging crones and spinsters in the administrative pool
> would be infinitely perplexed and confounded by the trivial change. 

They would be perplexed when their documents didn't translate well that's
for certain.
 
> The same thing essentially happened when MS Office introduced the
> Fluent ribbon interface with Office 2007.  The office staff could
> barely adapt to the "radical" points and clicks.  

That's true.

> You can't teach an old bitch new tricks.  They are literally stuck
> with Microsoft forever.

But you can't give away free Linux.
Nobody wants it.

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#331707

On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 13:41:41 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:

> 
>> They would be better off, i.e. save licensing costs,
>> with LibreOffice.  So why don't they follow good sense and switch?
> 
> Because LibreOffice simply is not in the same class as MSOffice.
> It just isn't.
>

How about the Corel Office Suite with the once standard WordPerfect?

The truth is that the average office worker could not change to
Corel Office either.

The same is true for any of the other commercial (i.e. $$$) office
suites on the current market.

The fault is with the office worker and not the software.  Most managers
realize that expensive training programs would be needed in order to
acclimatize their workers to any new software package, and this will
influence any decision.

It is the digital incompetence of the basic worker that has cemented
Microsoft in the dominant position and that prevents any consideration
for software alternatives.  There is no other factor.

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#331715

On 8 Nov 2015 19:00:15 GMT, Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 13:41:41 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> They would be better off, i.e. save licensing costs,
>>> with LibreOffice.  So why don't they follow good sense and switch?
>> 
>> Because LibreOffice simply is not in the same class as MSOffice.
>> It just isn't.
>>
> 
> How about the Corel Office Suite with the once standard WordPerfect?

It was pretty good at the time but they screwed up by attempting to support
OS2. Wordperfect 5.x was the standard by all were judged. Same problem,
they wasted their time on OS/2.

> The truth is that the average office worker could not change to
> Corel Office either.

True.
 
> The same is true for any of the other commercial (i.e. $$$) office
> suites on the current market.
> 
> The fault is with the office worker and not the software.  Most managers
> realize that expensive training programs would be needed in order to
> acclimatize their workers to any new software package, and this will
> influence any decision.

Yet we are constantly told in COLA how Linux is actually easier to use.
Of course no example exist.
 
> It is the digital incompetence of the basic worker that has cemented
> Microsoft in the dominant position and that prevents any consideration
> for software alternatives.  There is no other factor.

If Linux/LibreOffice/gimp etc were truly superior to MSOffice etc the
executives in this companies would accept the front loaded training costs
and move on.
They don't.
And believe me, it has been studied.
The reason is, MSOffice etc is superior.
It just is.
Moving to LibreOffice sets them up for headaches.
The training costs are minimal in comparison to the possible ramifications
of poor document translation.


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#331680

On 8 Nov 2015 17:31:27 GMT, Fabian Russell wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 10:11:53 -0500, Slimer wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> Maybe a call to the Adobe hotline can help you -- at $99.95 per
>>> call.  LOL!
>> 
>> At least he gets an answer that way. What do you Linux losers have to
>> offer as an alternative?
>>
> 
> Personal initiative.  It provides more lasting results than being
> spoon fed from some commercial clinic.

Have you met Jeddiah?
You two have a lot in common.
lol.

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#331683

On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:35:12 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:

> On 8 Nov 2015 17:31:27 GMT, Fabian Russell wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 10:11:53 -0500, Slimer wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>>> Maybe a call to the Adobe hotline can help you -- at $99.95 per call.
>>>>  LOL!
>>> 
>>> At least he gets an answer that way. What do you Linux losers have to
>>> offer as an alternative?
>>>
>>>
>> Personal initiative.  It provides more lasting results than being spoon
>> fed from some commercial clinic.
> 
> Have you met Jeddiah?
> You two have a lot in common.
> lol.

You mean no common sense? ...or business sense? ...or just any sense at 
all!!  :)



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#331690

On 8 Nov 2015 17:42:55 GMT, Lloyd Parsons wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:35:12 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:
> 
>> On 8 Nov 2015 17:31:27 GMT, Fabian Russell wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 10:11:53 -0500, Slimer wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> Maybe a call to the Adobe hotline can help you -- at $99.95 per call.
>>>>>  LOL!
>>>> 
>>>> At least he gets an answer that way. What do you Linux losers have to
>>>> offer as an alternative?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Personal initiative.  It provides more lasting results than being spoon
>>> fed from some commercial clinic.
>> 
>> Have you met Jeddiah?
>> You two have a lot in common.
>> lol.
> 
> You mean no common sense? ...or business sense? ...or just any sense at 
> all!!  :)

+1
Actually +3. One for each statement.

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#331687

On 2015-11-08 12:31 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 10:11:53 -0500, Slimer wrote:
> 
>>>
>>> Maybe a call to the Adobe hotline can help you -- at $99.95 per
>>> call.  LOL!
>>
>> At least he gets an answer that way. What do you Linux losers have to
>> offer as an alternative?
>>
> 
> Personal initiative.  It provides more lasting results than being
> spoon fed from some commercial clinic.

So, in other words, nothing.

What you're proposing as a substitute for a person paying for an
immediate answer that will likely salvage a critical project is that he
figure things out on his own _or_ , more likely, that he discover that
no matter what he does, the free hobbyware won't actually solve the
problem for him. Either way, he is wasting his time and not getting the
job done when the proprietary alternative allows him to complete the
project, keep his job and likely get promoted to a point where paying
$100 from time to time becomes inconsequential.

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#331700

On Sun, 08 Nov 2015 12:48:25 -0500, Slimer wrote:

> 
> What you're proposing as a substitute for a person paying for an
> immediate answer that will likely salvage a critical project is that he
> figure things out on his own
>

If a person requires such assistance, he should not be hired in the first
place.

If an employer can't find good people, then that's his problem.

Using standard software is not like exploratory rocket science.  The
capabilities of both Adobe Photoshop and MS Office are simple and
straightforward and should not be a puzzle to anyone, especially
a professional.

Did you ever hear of a manual?  If you are uncertain, a quick consultation
of the reference manual will clear things up.

Before I gave it up, I used to teach Intuit QuickBooks (a widely used financial
package) to so-called accounting "professionals."  These people were pathetic.
They would rather pay me $60 per hour for personal instruction than purchase
a simple reference manual for $29.95.  I guess they have serious trouble reading.

I would never have hired those idiots, yet they hold high positions in large
corporations.

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