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Why Linux is a failure.

Started byEdward Milano <milano58_remove_no_spam@post.com>
First post2015-09-12 00:27 +0000
Last post2015-09-15 15:22 -0700
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  Why Linux is a failure. Edward Milano <milano58_remove_no_spam@post.com> - 2015-09-12 00:27 +0000
    Re: Why my trolling is a failure. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-11 21:36 -0400
      Re: Why Chris Ahlstrom is a follower not a leader. Edward Milano <milano58_remove_no_spam@post.com> - 2015-09-12 01:42 +0000
        Re: Why Chris Ahlstrom is a follower not a leader. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-12 12:07 +0200
        Re: Why Chris Ahlstrom is a follower not a leader. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-12 09:29 -0400
        Re: Why Chris Ahlstrom is a follower not a leader. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-15 16:09 -0500
      Re: Why my trolling is a failure. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-12 03:58 +0200
        Re: Why my trolling is a failure. scooz <scooz@myemailisspamfree.net> - 2015-09-11 22:22 -0400
          Re: Why my trolling is a failure. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-11 21:01 -0700
            Re: Why my trolling is a failure. scooz <scooz@myemailisspamfree.net> - 2015-09-12 00:16 -0400
          Re: Why my trolling is a failure. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-15 07:01 -0500
            Re: Why my trolling is a failure. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-15 10:00 -0700
            PLOOPP!!!  SPLASH!!!  AAAAHHHHHHH!!!!  FLUSH!!!! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:48 -0600
        Re: Why my trolling is a failure. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-12 07:06 -0400
          Re: Why my trolling is a failure. sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2015-09-12 08:36 -0300
          Re: Why my trolling is a failure. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-12 13:57 -0600
        Re: Why my trolling is a failure. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-12 13:56 -0600
      Re: Why my trolling is a failure. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-09-12 13:42 +0100
        Re: Why my trolling is a failure. Edward Milano <milano58_remove_no_spam@post.com> - 2015-09-12 14:39 +0000
      Re: Why Linux is a failure. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-12 11:23 -0400
        Re: Why Linux is a failure. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 15:51 +0000
      Re: Why my trolling is a failure. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-12 13:55 -0600
        Re: Why my trolling is a failure. Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-12 20:59 +0100
          Re: Why my trolling is a failure. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-12 16:56 -0400
            Re: Why my trolling is a failure. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 22:26 +0000
              Re: Why my trolling is a failure. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-12 21:05 -0600
            Re: Why my trolling is a failure. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-12 21:04 -0600
            Re: Why my trolling is a failure. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-15 07:06 -0500
              Find one for sale in the stores, Turdv.  Linux left the shelf years ago. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:49 -0600
          Re: Why my trolling is a failure. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-12 21:03 -0600
            Re: Why my trolling is a failure. Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-13 06:09 +0100
              Re: Why my trolling is a failure. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-13 11:50 -0600
    Re: Why Linux is a failure. Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-12 05:39 +0100
      Re: Why Linux is a failure. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-11 22:14 -0700
    Re: Why Linux is a failure. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-12 12:05 +0200
    Today's topic is:  Why is Edward Milano such a Pultz? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 04:30 -0700
      Re: Today's topic is:  Why is Edward Milano such a Pultz? "Dr. John Grubor" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-12 15:21 +0000
    Re: Why this troll is a failure. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-09-12 13:39 +0100
      Re: Why this troll is a failure. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-12 14:00 -0600
        Re: Why this troll is a failure. Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-12 21:04 +0100
          Re: Why this troll is a failure. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-12 21:05 -0600
            Re: Why this troll is a failure. Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-13 05:19 +0100
              Re: Why this troll is a failure. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-13 11:50 -0600
                Re: Why this troll is a failure. Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-13 13:18 -0500
                  Re: Why this troll is a failure. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-14 13:08 -0600
    Re: Why Linux is a failure. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-15 06:55 -0500
      Typical Turdv response.  A total LUSER! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:49 -0600
    Re: Why Linux is a failure. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-15 16:08 -0500
      Re: Why Linux is a failure. Edward Milano <milano58_remove_no_spam@post.com> - 2015-09-15 21:48 +0000
        Re: Why Linux is a failure. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-16 15:20 -0500
          Re: Why Linux is a failure. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-16 17:04 -0400
            Re: Why Linux is a failure. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-09-16 23:03 +0100
          Re: Why Linux is a success. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 23:24 +0000
            Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-09-16 18:33 -0500
            Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-16 17:23 -0700
            Re: Why Linux is a success. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-09-17 03:42 -0700
              Re: Why Linux is a success. sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2015-09-17 08:39 -0300
                Re: Why Linux is a success. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 12:33 +0000
                  Re: Why Linux is a success. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-09-17 06:02 -0700
                Re: Why Linux is a success. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-18 08:06 -0500
                  Re: Why Linux is a success. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-18 08:54 -0500
                    Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 15:24 +0000
                      Re: Why Linux is a success. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-18 12:00 -0400
                        Re: Why Linux is a success. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-18 12:52 -0400
                    Re: Why Linux is a success. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-20 13:03 -0400
                      Re: Why Linux is a success. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-20 19:17 +0200
                        Re: Why Linux is a success. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-20 14:10 -0400
                          Re: Why Linux is a success. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-20 21:06 +0200
                        Re: Why Linux is a success. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-21 07:25 -0500
                          Re: Why Linux is a success. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-21 09:30 -0400
                          Re: Why Linux is a success. Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-24 08:21 -0500
                            Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-24 13:25 +0000
                              Re: Why Linux is a success. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-24 09:47 -0400
                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-24 14:28 +0000
                                Re: Why Linux is a success. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-24 11:08 -0500
                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-24 16:36 +0000
                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-24 11:57 -0500
                                    Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-24 17:06 +0000
                                      Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-24 19:07 -0600
                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-24 19:06 -0600
                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-25 17:00 +0000
                                    Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-25 17:22 +0000
                                    Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-25 10:41 -0700
                                    Re: Why Linux is a success. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-26 12:48 -0500
                                      Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 18:06 +0000
                                        Re: Why Linux is a success. Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 18:11 -0700
                                          Re: Why Linux is a success. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-02 07:21 -0600
                                            Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 14:05 +0000
                                            Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-02 09:52 -0500
                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-26 07:35 -0500
                                    Re: Why Linux is a success. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-26 08:42 -0400
                                    Re: Why Linux is a success. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-26 09:00 -0500
                                      Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 14:03 +0000
                                        Re: Why Linux is a success. Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 18:13 -0700
                                          Re: Why Linux is a success. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-10-30 19:48 -0700
                                            Re: Why Linux is a success. Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 11:42 -0700
                                              Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 19:12 +0000
                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-31 20:57 +0100
                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 20:10 +0000
                                                    Re: Why Linux is a success. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-31 21:23 +0100
                                                      Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 20:40 +0000
                                                        Re: Why Linux is a success. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-31 23:37 +0100
                                                          Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 23:13 +0000
                                                            Re: Why Linux is a success. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-01 01:41 +0100
                                                              Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 00:43 +0000
                                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-01 01:45 +0100
                                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-31 17:52 -0700
                                                                    Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-31 19:47 -0600
                                                                      Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-31 21:37 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-31 19:46 -0600
                                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 01:59 +0000
                                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-01 14:09 -0500
                                                                    Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-01 12:12 -0700
                                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-31 17:54 -0700
                                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-01 14:08 -0500
                                                              Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-31 17:53 -0700
                                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-01 02:04 +0100
                                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-31 18:17 -0700
                                                              Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-31 19:45 -0600
                                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-31 21:39 -0700
                                                              Re: Why Linux is a success. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 01:57 +0000
                                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-31 20:37 -0700
                                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-01 14:22 -0700
                                                              Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-01 14:07 -0500
                                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-01 12:13 -0700
                                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-01 20:47 +0100
                                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-01 15:15 -0500
                                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-01 13:42 -0700
                                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-11-01 22:37 +0000
                                                                    Re: Why Linux is a success. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-01 17:42 -0500
                                                                      Re: Why Linux is a success. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-02 00:14 +0100
                                                                        Re: Why Linux is a success. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-01 18:18 -0500
                                                                          Re: Why Linux is a success. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-02 00:29 +0100
                                                                            Re: Why Linux is a success. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-01 18:33 -0500
                                                                              Re: Why Linux is a success. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-02 00:37 +0100
                                                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-01 18:39 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-02 00:58 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-01 16:59 -0700
                                                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-01 16:50 -0700
                                                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-01 20:15 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-01 18:35 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-02 07:56 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-02 09:47 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Why Linux is a success. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-02 18:21 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-02 12:46 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-02 18:42 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Why Linux is a success. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-03 00:58 +0100
                                                                                        You're a liar. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-03 16:15 -0700
                                                                            Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-01 16:50 -0700
                                                                            Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-01 20:12 -0500
                                                                          Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-01 18:58 -0700
                                                                        Re: Why Linux is a success. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-11-02 00:09 +0000
                                                                          Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-01 20:18 -0500
                                                                            Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-01 18:34 -0700
                                                                          No it doesn't, moron.  You are a liar. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-01 18:59 -0700
                                                                        Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-01 20:11 -0500
                                                                        Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-01 18:58 -0700
                                                                        Re: Why Linux is a success. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 09:52 -0600
                                                                    Go lick your urinals, dog. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-01 18:57 -0700
                                                          Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-31 19:43 -0600
                                                      Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-31 19:42 -0600
                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-31 17:07 -0400
                                                    Re: Why Linux is a success. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-31 17:20 -0400
                                                      Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-31 17:28 -0400
                                                    Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-31 19:50 -0600
                                                      Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 02:31 +0000
                                                        Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-01 14:26 -0700
                                                      Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-01 14:14 -0500
                                                        Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-01 14:27 -0700
                                                          Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-01 20:02 -0500
                                                            Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-01 19:01 -0700
                                                              Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-02 09:40 -0500
                                                              Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-02 09:41 -0500
                                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 14:49 +0000
                                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-02 09:57 -0500
                                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-02 10:38 -0500
                                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-02 10:41 -0500
                                                              Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-02 16:07 -0700
                                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-02 18:16 -0500
                                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-03 16:16 -0700
                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-31 19:42 -0600
                                                    Re: Why Linux is a success. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-01 11:29 +0100
                                                      Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-01 14:28 -0700
                                                      Re: Why Linux is a success. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-02 07:28 -0600
                                                        Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 14:03 +0000
                                              Re: Why Linux is a success. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-10-31 18:27 -0700
                                          Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-31 10:17 -0400
                                            Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-31 08:33 -0700
                                              Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-31 12:22 -0400
                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-31 17:26 +0100
                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-31 12:32 -0400
                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-31 09:50 -0700
                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-31 12:07 -0600
                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 11:37 -0700
                                                    Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 19:14 +0000
                                                    Re: Why Linux is a success. Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-31 15:09 -0500
                                                      Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 20:11 +0000
                                                        Re: Why Linux is a success. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-31 21:24 +0100
                                                          Re: Why Linux is a success. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 20:35 +0000
                                                            Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 20:41 +0000
                                                          Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 20:41 +0000
                                                            Re: Why Linux is a success. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-31 23:43 +0100
                                                              Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 23:11 +0000
                                                      Re: Why Linux is a success. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-05 13:03 -0500
                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 20:32 +0000
                                                    Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 20:42 +0000
                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-10-31 12:27 -0400
                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-31 09:49 -0700
                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-31 10:12 -0700
                                          Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-31 12:06 -0600
                                      Re: Why Linux is a success. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-26 10:26 -0400
                                        Re: Why Linux is a success. Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-26 10:38 -0400
                                          Re: Why Linux is a success. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-26 16:44 -0500
                                            Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 15:20 -0700
                                            Re: Why Linux is a success. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-26 22:28 +0000
                                              Re: Why Linux is a success. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-10-26 16:15 -0700
                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-26 21:51 -0500
                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-26 20:48 -0700
                                                  Re: Why Linux is a success. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-10-27 04:25 -0700
                                            Re: Why Linux is a success. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-27 07:15 -0500
                                              Re: Why Linux is a success. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 13:37 +0000
                                                Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-27 11:47 -0700
                                              Re: Why Linux is a success. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-27 10:29 -0400
                                              Re: Why Linux is a success. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-27 11:49 -0700
                            LINUX SUCKS AND SO DO YOU. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-24 19:05 -0600
                        Re: Why Linux is a success. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-21 11:54 -0600
                    Re: Why Linux is a success. Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-24 08:16 -0500
                  Re: Why Linux is a success. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-09-18 09:08 -0700
                  Re: Why Linux is a success. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-10-24 20:36 -0700
                Re: Why Linux is a success. Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-21 03:39 -0500
                  Re: Why Linux is a success. sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2015-09-21 08:38 -0300
      Re: Why Linux is a failure. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 22:03 +0000
      Re: Why Windows is a failure. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 22:04 +0000
        Re: Why Windows is a failure. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-15 22:13 +0000
          Re: Why Windows is a failure. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-15 15:41 -0700
        Thinking of trying Linux? Better Think again scooz <scooz@myemailisspamfree.net> - 2015-09-15 18:17 -0400
          Re: Thinking of trying Linux? Better Think again Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-15 15:26 -0700
          Re: Thinking of trying Linux? Better Think again Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-15 20:54 -0500
            Re: Thinking of trying Linux? Better Think again chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-16 06:57 -0500
              Re: Thinking of trying Linux? Better Think again JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-16 15:23 -0500
          Re: Thinking of trying Linux? Better Think again JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-16 15:22 -0500
        Re: Why Windows is a failure. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-15 15:21 -0700
        Re: Why Windows is a failure. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 22:26 +0000
        Re: Why Windows is a failure. Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-15 20:56 -0500
          Re: Why Windows is a failure. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-16 09:41 -0400
            Re: Why Windows is a failure. Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-17 00:00 -0500
              Re: Why Windows is a failure. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-17 08:13 -0400
              Re: Why Windows is a failure. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 12:31 +0000
                Re: Why Windows is a failure. Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-17 19:31 -0500
                  Re: Why Windows is a failure. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 17:30 +0000
      Re: Why Linux is a failure. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-15 15:22 -0700

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#330020 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-10-31 19:42 -0600
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<X46dnRH_2qVy8KjLnZ2dnUU7-VednZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#329969
On 10/31/15 13:57, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:42:57 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>>
>>> [snips]
>>>
>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 19:48:52 -0700, -hh wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kelsey B writes:
>>>
>>>>>> Absolutely!  Couple that with the fact it will also work with any of
>>>>>> the printers and scanners that store is selling too.  Well, actually
>>>>>> any printer/scanner that anyone is selling.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note the implicit kowtowing to the corporate master here.  No mention
>>>>> of *existing* hardware, just hardware *for sale*.
>>>>
>>>> Existing hardware had to have had come from somewhere at some point.
>>>
>>> Yes, and?
>>>
>>>> Well, putting your claims to practice, feel free to tell us what
>>>> hardware you're running, since it obviously has never broken down or
>>>> had had any other reason to ever have paid money to have been replaced.
>>>
>>> What the thundering fuck are you blabbering about?  Are you delusional
>>> enough to consider the user _choosing_ to upgrade his hardware, and the
>>> user being _forced_ to upgrade it because some corporate jackass both
>>> controls the driver and refuses to update it, as being equivalent?
>>>
>>> You really *are* a slave of the corporate masters, aren't you?  Do they
>>> allow you *any* free will?
>>
>> You are an idiot.  Drivers will be updated for Windows first and all
>> others after that.  That assumes that they think there are enough of
>> whatever is out there to make it worthwhile.
>>
>
> Interesting idiocy you show here.
>
> Drivers for *existing* hardware are all too often *not* updated.

So you say.  That hardware vendor will lose money over the long haul and 
also ruin their reputation if they don't.  HP printers have always 
provided updates for newer windows, as an example.  The company that 
doesn't is probably already bankrupt.

> Meaning you can't use the otherwise fine working peripheral anymore.

Fine working?  Most of you linux loons use the most off the road 
peripherals ever heard of.  And most of the time they are almost garbage 
can ready.

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#330057 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-11-01 11:29 +0100
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<n14pet$uft$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#330020
GreyCloud wrote:

> On 10/31/15 13:57, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:42:57 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>>>
>>>> [snips]
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 19:48:52 -0700, -hh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Kelsey B writes:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Absolutely!  Couple that with the fact it will also work with any of
>>>>>>> the printers and scanners that store is selling too.  Well, actually
>>>>>>> any printer/scanner that anyone is selling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note the implicit kowtowing to the corporate master here.  No mention
>>>>>> of *existing* hardware, just hardware *for sale*.
>>>>>
>>>>> Existing hardware had to have had come from somewhere at some point.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, and?
>>>>
>>>>> Well, putting your claims to practice, feel free to tell us what
>>>>> hardware you're running, since it obviously has never broken down or
>>>>> had had any other reason to ever have paid money to have been
>>>>> replaced.
>>>>
>>>> What the thundering fuck are you blabbering about?  Are you delusional
>>>> enough to consider the user _choosing_ to upgrade his hardware, and the
>>>> user being _forced_ to upgrade it because some corporate jackass both
>>>> controls the driver and refuses to update it, as being equivalent?
>>>>
>>>> You really *are* a slave of the corporate masters, aren't you?  Do they
>>>> allow you *any* free will?
>>>
>>> You are an idiot.  Drivers will be updated for Windows first and all
>>> others after that.  That assumes that they think there are enough of
>>> whatever is out there to make it worthwhile.
>>>
>>
>> Interesting idiocy you show here.
>>
>> Drivers for *existing* hardware are all too often *not* updated.
> 
> So you say.  That hardware vendor will lose money over the long haul and
> also ruin their reputation if they don't.  

Well, they don't. Often. They rather sell you a new device

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#330174 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-11-01 14:28 -0700
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<LL2dnTSV1opmHqvLnZ2dnUU7-SWdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#330057
On 11/01/15 03:29, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> GreyCloud wrote:
>
>> On 10/31/15 13:57, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:42:57 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [snips]
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2015 19:48:52 -0700, -hh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Kelsey B writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Absolutely!  Couple that with the fact it will also work with any of
>>>>>>>> the printers and scanners that store is selling too.  Well, actually
>>>>>>>> any printer/scanner that anyone is selling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note the implicit kowtowing to the corporate master here.  No mention
>>>>>>> of *existing* hardware, just hardware *for sale*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Existing hardware had to have had come from somewhere at some point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, and?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, putting your claims to practice, feel free to tell us what
>>>>>> hardware you're running, since it obviously has never broken down or
>>>>>> had had any other reason to ever have paid money to have been
>>>>>> replaced.
>>>>>
>>>>> What the thundering fuck are you blabbering about?  Are you delusional
>>>>> enough to consider the user _choosing_ to upgrade his hardware, and the
>>>>> user being _forced_ to upgrade it because some corporate jackass both
>>>>> controls the driver and refuses to update it, as being equivalent?
>>>>>
>>>>> You really *are* a slave of the corporate masters, aren't you?  Do they
>>>>> allow you *any* free will?
>>>>
>>>> You are an idiot.  Drivers will be updated for Windows first and all
>>>> others after that.  That assumes that they think there are enough of
>>>> whatever is out there to make it worthwhile.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting idiocy you show here.
>>>
>>> Drivers for *existing* hardware are all too often *not* updated.
>>
>> So you say.  That hardware vendor will lose money over the long haul and
>> also ruin their reputation if they don't.
>
> Well, they don't. Often. They rather sell you a new device

I've got an old HP printer that is 10 years old, and I can still get 
drivers for win10 and El Capitan.
It is one of the few HP printers that can be taken apart and cleaned.


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#330304 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-11-02 07:28 -0600
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<u1pe3bhfgrlpgo37i47ofqvkde1poiv13g@4ax.com>
In reply to#330057
Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> some piece of shit wrote:
>>
>> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>>
>>> Lying Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Drivers will be updated for Windows first and all
>>>> others after that.  That assumes that they think there are enough of
>>>> whatever is out there to make it worthwhile.
>>>
>>> Interesting idiocy you show here.
>>>
>>> Drivers for *existing* hardware are all too often *not* updated.
>> 
>> So you say.  That hardware vendor will lose money over the long haul and
>> also ruin their reputation if they don't.  
>
> Well, they don't. Often. They rather sell you a new device

The efficiency of FOSS allows things to be supported that a "normal"
business cannot economically support.

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#330311 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-02 14:03 +0000
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<d9p8p8F2cmfU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#330304
On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 07:28:58 -0600, chrisv wrote:

> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> 
>> some piece of shit wrote:
>>>
>>> Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Lying Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Drivers will be updated for Windows first and all others after that.
>>>>>  That assumes that they think there are enough of whatever is out
>>>>> there to make it worthwhile.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting idiocy you show here.
>>>>
>>>> Drivers for *existing* hardware are all too often *not* updated.
>>> 
>>> So you say.  That hardware vendor will lose money over the long haul
>>> and also ruin their reputation if they don't.
>>
>> Well, they don't. Often. They rather sell you a new device
> 
> The efficiency of FOSS allows things to be supported that a "normal"
> business cannot economically support.

Unfortunately the linux crowd hasn't shown that 'efficiency' to be enough 
to get more of the business community to move to linux on their 
desktops.  And that is really more because of the lack of real business 
acumen than the technology.


-- 
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#330018 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2015-10-31 18:27 -0700
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<547d96d7-d885-4172-ba2f-d76a0a07b117@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#329960
Kelsey Bjarnason  Wrote:
> -hh wrote: 
>> Kelsey Bjarnason writes: 
>>> [...]
>>>> Absolutely!  Couple that with the fact it will also work with any of 
>>>> the printers and scanners that store is selling too.  Well, actually 
>>>> any printer/scanner that anyone is selling. 
>>> 
>>> Note the implicit kowtowing to the corporate master here.  No mention 
>>> of *existing* hardware, just hardware *for sale*. 
>> 
>> Existing hardware had to have had come from somewhere at some point. 
>
> Yes, and? 

Merely just how off-base your attitude is.  

>> Well, putting your claims to practice, feel free to tell us what 
>> hardware you're running, since it obviously has never broken down or had 
>> had any other reason to ever have paid money to have been 
>> replaced. 
>
> What the thundering fuck are you blabbering about?  

That you dodged answering the question has provided its answer.
Not that it is expected for you to understand that it revealed your hypocrisy.

> Are you delusional enough to consider the user _choosing_ to upgrade 
> his hardware, and the user being _forced_ to upgrade it because some 
> corporate jackass both controls the driver and refuses to update it, as 
> being equivalent? 

Nice straw man.  Too bad it ignores the reality that the user only generally
gets into that dilemma *if* he chose to change his system somehow.
Similarly, users also generally _elect_ to upgrade because of some benefit
of doing so, and then also accepts as part of the price that other upgrade
expenses may get dragged along as well.  

Now you are free to still tooling around on your "Big Wheel" tricycle, but
when one upgrades to a car proper, the prospects of also having to pay for 
gas and insurance isn't an injustice, nor a huge surprise ... at least for adults.

> You really *are* a slave of the corporate masters, aren't you? 

Nope.  Merely an informed consumer...with the key being below.

> Do they allow you *any* free will? 

"They" have no power over me.  The key is knowing that one
is not obligated to purchase.

Now since you're still apparently living in that pile of rags in 
the old beater van, supposedly "camping", you will of course 
be trying to blame anyone other than yourself, and continue to
try to lash out at anyone that tells you that your little victim game
is old and lame.

-hh

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#329923 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

FromCharmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-10-31 10:17 -0400
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<n12ico$uc2$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#329893
On 2015-10-31 12:17 AM, Snit wrote:
> On 10/30/15, 7:38 PM, in article d9intsFda4dU1@mid.individual.net, "Lloyd
> Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> Absolutely!  Couple that with the fact it will also work with any of
>>>> the printers and scanners that store is selling too.  Well, actually
>>>> any printer/scanner that anyone is selling.
>>>
>>> Note the implicit kowtowing to the corporate master here.  No mention of
>>> *existing* hardware, just hardware *for sale*.  Must spend more money to
>>> appease the overlords.
>>>
>> OK, don't buy the latest.  The odds of a random selection of printers and
>> scanners that have drivers for Windows is extremely high, for OSX a bit
>> less and for linux a much shorter list.
> 
> What? Peter tells us OS X cannot even handle common HP printer / scanners!
> 
>   Peter Köhlmann, <http://goo.gl/600BHt>:
>     -----
>     Scanning [on OS X] is not supported *at* *all* without jumping
>     through several hoops. This includes hunting down 3 different
>     software packages (libusb, sane-backend and sane) *and* installing
>     them. Out of the box no scanning is supported at all. This is in
>     stark contrast to linux where scanning is supported right from the
>     start after setting up the printer
> 
>     The same is true about *all* OfficeJet Pro printers under OSX.
>     -----    
> 
> It is not possible he is wrong, is it?
> 
>     <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/PrintFirstTime.mp4>
>     <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/FirstScan.mov>
> 
> Oh. 
> 
> Never mind. :)

I'm wondering whether OS X would support my ancient HP Scanjet 3500c. I
have no reason to throw it out and am annoyed that Windows 10 doesn't
support it "just because."

-- 
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#329926 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-10-31 08:33 -0700
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<D25A2D4F.622E5%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#329923
On 10/31/15, 7:17 AM, in article n12ico$uc2$3@dont-email.me, "Charmed Tuna"
<.m@nsn.s> wrote:

> On 2015-10-31 12:17 AM, Snit wrote:
>> On 10/30/15, 7:38 PM, in article d9intsFda4dU1@mid.individual.net, "Lloyd
>> Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> Absolutely!  Couple that with the fact it will also work with any of
>>>>> the printers and scanners that store is selling too.  Well, actually
>>>>> any printer/scanner that anyone is selling.
>>>> 
>>>> Note the implicit kowtowing to the corporate master here.  No mention of
>>>> *existing* hardware, just hardware *for sale*.  Must spend more money to
>>>> appease the overlords.
>>>> 
>>> OK, don't buy the latest.  The odds of a random selection of printers and
>>> scanners that have drivers for Windows is extremely high, for OSX a bit
>>> less and for linux a much shorter list.
>> 
>> What? Peter tells us OS X cannot even handle common HP printer / scanners!
>> 
>>   Peter Köhlmann, <http://goo.gl/600BHt>:
>>     -----
>>     Scanning [on OS X] is not supported *at* *all* without jumping
>>     through several hoops. This includes hunting down 3 different
>>     software packages (libusb, sane-backend and sane) *and* installing
>>     them. Out of the box no scanning is supported at all. This is in
>>     stark contrast to linux where scanning is supported right from the
>>     start after setting up the printer
>> 
>>     The same is true about *all* OfficeJet Pro printers under OSX.
>>     -----    
>> 
>> It is not possible he is wrong, is it?
>> 
>>     <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/PrintFirstTime.mp4>
>>     <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/FirstScan.mov>
>> 
>> Oh. 
>> 
>> Never mind. :)
> 
> I'm wondering whether OS X would support my ancient HP Scanjet 3500c. I
> have no reason to throw it out and am annoyed that Windows 10 doesn't
> support it "just because."

They list the 3500, so likely yes:
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201465>


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#329927 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

FromCharmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-10-31 12:22 -0400
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<n12pnn$s1p$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#329926
On 2015-10-31 11:33 AM, Snit wrote:
> On 10/31/15, 7:17 AM, in article n12ico$uc2$3@dont-email.me, "Charmed Tuna"
> <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-10-31 12:17 AM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 10/30/15, 7:38 PM, in article d9intsFda4dU1@mid.individual.net, "Lloyd
>>> Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Absolutely!  Couple that with the fact it will also work with any of
>>>>>> the printers and scanners that store is selling too.  Well, actually
>>>>>> any printer/scanner that anyone is selling.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note the implicit kowtowing to the corporate master here.  No mention of
>>>>> *existing* hardware, just hardware *for sale*.  Must spend more money to
>>>>> appease the overlords.
>>>>>
>>>> OK, don't buy the latest.  The odds of a random selection of printers and
>>>> scanners that have drivers for Windows is extremely high, for OSX a bit
>>>> less and for linux a much shorter list.
>>>
>>> What? Peter tells us OS X cannot even handle common HP printer / scanners!
>>>
>>>   Peter Köhlmann, <http://goo.gl/600BHt>:
>>>     -----
>>>     Scanning [on OS X] is not supported *at* *all* without jumping
>>>     through several hoops. This includes hunting down 3 different
>>>     software packages (libusb, sane-backend and sane) *and* installing
>>>     them. Out of the box no scanning is supported at all. This is in
>>>     stark contrast to linux where scanning is supported right from the
>>>     start after setting up the printer
>>>
>>>     The same is true about *all* OfficeJet Pro printers under OSX.
>>>     -----    
>>>
>>> It is not possible he is wrong, is it?
>>>
>>>     <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/PrintFirstTime.mp4>
>>>     <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/FirstScan.mov>
>>>
>>> Oh. 
>>>
>>> Never mind. :)
>>
>> I'm wondering whether OS X would support my ancient HP Scanjet 3500c. I
>> have no reason to throw it out and am annoyed that Windows 10 doesn't
>> support it "just because."
> 
> They list the 3500, so likely yes:
> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201465>

There you go, a decent reason to use OS X: whatever hardware you buy is
supported and for a longer period of time. I really find it disgusting
how Windows seems to _lose_ hardware support over time. The 3500c worked
in XP and Vista, but suddenly lost support in 7 and 8 (unless you used
the Vista driver). With 10, they seem to have decided you're an asshole
for having one.


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#329928 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

FromMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Date2015-10-31 17:26 +0100
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<20151031172616.3481ea57@maxa-pc>
In reply to#329927
On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 12:22:22 -0400
Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> wrote:

> 
> There you go, a decent reason to use OS X: whatever hardware you buy
> is supported and for a longer period of time.

Linux is better in this regard...

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#329930 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

FromBig Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com>
Date2015-10-31 12:32 -0400
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<28e0myadfcll.1x61npjax03s6.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#329928
On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:26:16 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 12:22:22 -0400
> Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> There you go, a decent reason to use OS X: whatever hardware you buy
>> is supported and for a longer period of time.
> 
> Linux is better in this regard...

Much, much better.

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#329933 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-10-31 09:50 -0700
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<D25A3F61.622FE%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#329928
On 10/31/15, 9:26 AM, in article 20151031172616.3481ea57@maxa-pc, "Melzzzzz"
<mel@zzzzz.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 12:22:22 -0400
> Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> There you go, a decent reason to use OS X: whatever hardware you buy
>> is supported and for a longer period of time.
> 
> Linux is better in this regard...
> 
From what I have seen I agree - though the support is usually weaker, the
length of the support is longer.

It is a trade off: support peripherals for a longer time less well vs.
supporting peripherals for a shorter time but doing so better.


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#329943 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-10-31 12:07 -0600
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<M6-dna-NEun4nqjLnZ2dnUU7-ImdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#329928
On 10/31/15 10:26, Melzzzzz wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 12:22:22 -0400
> Charmed Tuna<.m@nsn.s>  wrote:
>
>>
>> There you go, a decent reason to use OS X: whatever hardware you buy
>> is supported and for a longer period of time.
>
> Linux is better in this regard...
>
Not really.

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#329959 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

FromKelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-31 11:37 -0700
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<lcefgc-gj8.ln1@spanky.localhost.net>
In reply to#329928
On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:26:16 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 12:22:22 -0400 Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
> 
> 
>> There you go, a decent reason to use OS X: whatever hardware you buy is
>> supported and for a longer period of time.
> 
> Linux is better in this regard...

*Vastly* better.

In LGX, there are basically two reasons a driver for a piece of hardware 
will stop being offered:

  1) There *are no more* of the physical devices.
  2) The driver was so abstruse it is beyond updating.

2 is rare.  So is 1, for that matter.  In Windows-land, it's far from 
rare to have a piece of hardware become abandonware simply because the 
vendor would much prefer you buy a new device than spend a seconds' 
effort to update the device driver for it.

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#329967 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-31 19:14 +0000
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<d9ki9hFr46lU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#329959
On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 11:37:41 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:26:16 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 12:22:22 -0400 Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> There you go, a decent reason to use OS X: whatever hardware you buy
>>> is supported and for a longer period of time.
>> 
>> Linux is better in this regard...
> 
> *Vastly* better.
> 
> In LGX, there are basically two reasons a driver for a piece of hardware
> will stop being offered:
> 
>   1) There *are no more* of the physical devices.
>   2) The driver was so abstruse it is beyond updating.
> 
> 2 is rare.  So is 1, for that matter.  In Windows-land, it's far from
> rare to have a piece of hardware become abandonware simply because the
> vendor would much prefer you buy a new device than spend a seconds'
> effort to update the device driver for it.

While there are examples of abandoned hardware out there, the mfgs have 
been pretty damned good about keeping drivers up to date.  Not all of 
them of course.  

But it is all about business, because business is about business.  Not in 
satisfying some nym-shifted nimrod on usenet and his old crappy gear.  Of 
course, Linux might still have a driver that works for about 1/2 the 
functions.




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#329970 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

FromNobody <nobody@invalid.com>
Date2015-10-31 15:09 -0500
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<n13753$h1d$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#329959
On 10/31/2015 1:37 PM, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:26:16 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 12:22:22 -0400 Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> There you go, a decent reason to use OS X: whatever hardware you buy is
>>> supported and for a longer period of time.
>>
>> Linux is better in this regard...
>
> *Vastly* better.
>
> In LGX, there are basically two reasons a driver for a piece of hardware
> will stop being offered:
>
>    1) There *are no more* of the physical devices.
>    2) The driver was so abstruse it is beyond updating.
>
> 2 is rare.  So is 1, for that matter.  In Windows-land, it's far from
> rare to have a piece of hardware become abandonware simply because the
> vendor would much prefer you buy a new device than spend a seconds'
> effort to update the device driver for it.

Lack of drivers has kept many users, especially businesses, on WinXP.

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#329972 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-31 20:11 +0000
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<d9klkfFs39fU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#329970
On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:09:08 -0500, Nobody wrote:

> On 10/31/2015 1:37 PM, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:26:16 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 12:22:22 -0400 Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> There you go, a decent reason to use OS X: whatever hardware you buy
>>>> is supported and for a longer period of time.
>>>
>>> Linux is better in this regard...
>>
>> *Vastly* better.
>>
>> In LGX, there are basically two reasons a driver for a piece of
>> hardware will stop being offered:
>>
>>    1) There *are no more* of the physical devices.
>>    2) The driver was so abstruse it is beyond updating.
>>
>> 2 is rare.  So is 1, for that matter.  In Windows-land, it's far from
>> rare to have a piece of hardware become abandonware simply because the
>> vendor would much prefer you buy a new device than spend a seconds'
>> effort to update the device driver for it.
> 
> Lack of drivers has kept many users, especially businesses, on WinXP.

Refining 'many' as to mean 'a few' and you might be right.  But I'd say a 
business still running on WinXP isn't much of a business.




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#329975 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-10-31 21:24 +0100
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<n137to$oom$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#329972
Lloyd Parsons wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:09:08 -0500, Nobody wrote:
> 
>> On 10/31/2015 1:37 PM, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:26:16 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 12:22:22 -0400 Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> There you go, a decent reason to use OS X: whatever hardware you buy
>>>>> is supported and for a longer period of time.
>>>>
>>>> Linux is better in this regard...
>>>
>>> *Vastly* better.
>>>
>>> In LGX, there are basically two reasons a driver for a piece of
>>> hardware will stop being offered:
>>>
>>>    1) There *are no more* of the physical devices.
>>>    2) The driver was so abstruse it is beyond updating.
>>>
>>> 2 is rare.  So is 1, for that matter.  In Windows-land, it's far from
>>> rare to have a piece of hardware become abandonware simply because the
>>> vendor would much prefer you buy a new device than spend a seconds'
>>> effort to update the device driver for it.
>> 
>> Lack of drivers has kept many users, especially businesses, on WinXP.
> 
> Refining 'many' as to mean 'a few' and you might be right.  But I'd say a
> business still running on WinXP isn't much of a business.
> 

You would be surprised

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#329978 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

Fromronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-31 20:35 +0000
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<n138m2$r58$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#329975
On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 21:24:29 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:09:08 -0500, Nobody wrote:
>> 
>>> On 10/31/2015 1:37 PM, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:26:16 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 12:22:22 -0400 Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> There you go, a decent reason to use OS X: whatever hardware you
>>>>>> buy is supported and for a longer period of time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux is better in this regard...
>>>>
>>>> *Vastly* better.
>>>>
>>>> In LGX, there are basically two reasons a driver for a piece of
>>>> hardware will stop being offered:
>>>>
>>>>    1) There *are no more* of the physical devices.
>>>>    2) The driver was so abstruse it is beyond updating.
>>>>
>>>> 2 is rare.  So is 1, for that matter.  In Windows-land, it's far from
>>>> rare to have a piece of hardware become abandonware simply because
>>>> the vendor would much prefer you buy a new device than spend a
>>>> seconds' effort to update the device driver for it.
>>> 
>>> Lack of drivers has kept many users, especially businesses, on WinXP.
>> 
>> Refining 'many' as to mean 'a few' and you might be right.  But I'd say
>> a business still running on WinXP isn't much of a business.
>> 
>> 
> You would be surprised

The lemon-sucker once again shows he's clueless. He's good at that.

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#329981 — Re: Why Linux is a success.

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-31 20:41 +0000
SubjectRe: Why Linux is a success.
Message-ID<d9knc3Fshg0U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#329978
On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 20:35:15 +0000, ronb wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 21:24:29 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> 
>> Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:09:08 -0500, Nobody wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 10/31/2015 1:37 PM, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:26:16 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 12:22:22 -0400 Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There you go, a decent reason to use OS X: whatever hardware you
>>>>>>> buy is supported and for a longer period of time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux is better in this regard...
>>>>>
>>>>> *Vastly* better.
>>>>>
>>>>> In LGX, there are basically two reasons a driver for a piece of
>>>>> hardware will stop being offered:
>>>>>
>>>>>    1) There *are no more* of the physical devices.
>>>>>    2) The driver was so abstruse it is beyond updating.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2 is rare.  So is 1, for that matter.  In Windows-land, it's far
>>>>> from rare to have a piece of hardware become abandonware simply
>>>>> because the vendor would much prefer you buy a new device than spend
>>>>> a seconds' effort to update the device driver for it.
>>>> 
>>>> Lack of drivers has kept many users, especially businesses, on WinXP.
>>> 
>>> Refining 'many' as to mean 'a few' and you might be right.  But I'd
>>> say a business still running on WinXP isn't much of a business.
>>> 
>>> 
>> You would be surprised
> 
> The lemon-sucker once again shows he's clueless. He's good at that.


FOAD


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