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Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops?

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First post2015-10-11 16:38 +0100
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  Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2015-10-11 16:38 +0100
    Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-10-11 12:00 -0400
      Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2015-10-11 19:23 +0100
      Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-11 13:53 -0500
        Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-11 14:56 -0400
          Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-11 15:59 -0600
            Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-11 18:04 -0400
              Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-12 00:23 +0200
                Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-11 18:36 -0400
                  Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-12 01:30 +0200
                    Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-11 19:46 -0400
                    Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-11 18:20 -0700
                      Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 18:32 -0700
                        Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-11 21:36 -0400
                          Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 19:09 -0700
                Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-11 21:52 -0500
                  Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-11 20:04 -0700
                Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-12 08:10 -0500
                  Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 13:11 +0000
              Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 22:32 +0000
            Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 15:17 -0700
        Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-12 13:06 -0500
    Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-12 08:21 -0500
      Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 13:47 +0000
    Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-12 10:21 -0400
      Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 14:35 +0000
        Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-12 10:53 -0400
          Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 15:33 +0000
            Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-12 14:57 -0400
              Re: Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops? Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 19:31 +0000

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#326219

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-11 15:17 -0700
Message-ID<f3d2f829-499a-4264-8577-7d339b8f8e74@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#326212
On Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 3:59:50 PM UTC-6, GreyCloud wrote:
> On 10/11/15 12:56, Onion Knight wrote:
> > On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:53:08 -0500, Nobody wrote:
> >
> >> On 10/11/2015 11:00 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> >>> 7 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> >>>
> >>>> Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops?
> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Because they are cheap.
> >>>
> >>>> Why do these stuuupppiidd fscks in Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up
> >>>> about producing out dated low resolution display laptops?
> >>>>
> >>>> Nobody wants them, yet they still continue to produce this crap.
> >>>
> >>> Just about every laptop I see at, say, Office Depot, has one of those
> >>> crappy displays.
> >>>
> >>> By "crappy", I mean those 1366x768 (or thereabouts) displays.
> >>
> >> Really?  I've run at that resolution, and it didn't seem "crappy" to me...
> >
> > Try this and it will.
> > http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/features-retina/
> 
> Edwin is a troll.  In CSMA he said he'd never buy a mac anything, so he 
> doesn't know any better.

Edwin used to be a Mac advocate.

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#326409

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2015-10-12 13:06 -0500
Message-ID<slrnn1ntko.epk.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#326178
On 2015-10-11, Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 10/11/2015 11:00 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> 7 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops?
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Because they are cheap.
>>
>>> Why do these stuuupppiidd fscks in Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up
>>> about producing out dated low resolution display laptops?
>>>
>>> Nobody wants them, yet they still continue to produce this crap.
>>
>> Just about every laptop I see at, say, Office Depot, has one of those
>> crappy displays.
>>
>> By "crappy", I mean those 1366x768 (or thereabouts) displays.
>
> Really?  I've run at that resolution, and it didn't seem "crappy" to me...
>

...the thing that bothers me is that they are SMALL. I don't really how
how high res they are if they are SMALL. I don't want to need a magnifying
glass to do stuff. This is 2015, not 1985. These puny monitors need to go.

   It apalls me that even arrogant Mac users buy into this nonsense.

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#326329

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-10-12 08:21 -0500
Message-ID<clcn1blrh7sp0776vv0j4nctpirlcma1n4@4ax.com>
In reply to#326128
President 7 wrote:

>Its time China or India intervened and mass produced 2560x1600 pixel
>wide displays, 

2560x1600 is good (16:10).  I like the 2560x1700 3:2 display in the
Chromebook pixel, too.  Most displays are too fscking skinny!  1080P
sucks for computing.

>or may be even get a jump on the encumbants and aim for big 
>investment in the OLED versions.

OLED is awesome.  Personally, I would much rather see devices (TV's
and PC's) move to OLED than to ultra-fine pixel densities...

-- 
"I was clearly attacking him for being the sort of vile deadbeat that
files for bankruptcy"  -  Ezekreep, attacking an advocate who was a
single parent and had some catastrophic medical bills

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#326331

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-12 13:47 +0000
Message-ID<d81rvsFuap7U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#326329
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 08:21:49 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> President 7 wrote:
> 
>>Its time China or India intervened and mass produced 2560x1600 pixel
>>wide displays,
> 
> 2560x1600 is good (16:10).  I like the 2560x1700 3:2 display in the
> Chromebook pixel, too.  Most displays are too fscking skinny!  1080P
> sucks for computing.
> 
Yeah, the 3:2 display ration is great on the Pixel.  The blasted 16:9 
that the widescreens use is only really good for viewing video.

>>or may be even get a jump on the encumbants and aim for big investment
>>in the OLED versions.
> 
> OLED is awesome.  Personally, I would much rather see devices (TV's and
> PC's) move to OLED than to ultra-fine pixel densities...

I'm not a fan of LED anything on big screens.  I'd rather have either 
plasma or rear projection.



-- 
Lloyd

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#326340

From"A.M" <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-10-12 10:21 -0400
Message-ID<mvgfh7$kl8$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#326128
On 2015-10-11 11:38 AM, 7 wrote:
> Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display laptops?
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Why do these stuuupppiidd fscks in Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up
> about producing out dated low resolution display laptops?
> 
> Nobody wants them, yet they still continue to produce this crap.

True.

> And anytime someone produces the higher definition
> displays, its like they come out with comments such as "race to bottom",
> or some other crap. If they are so familiar with their bottoms,
> they should go stick their heads up their own colleagues bottoms
> in some weired magical ritual mis-adventure than whine about
> it openly trying to keep everyone down.
> 
> Its been two or three years now since 2560x1600 or so pixel wide displays
> have been out, and all stocks sold in the tablet market but none
> are being made available for the notebook market at similar
> prices or better prices in a conspiracy to keep out these
> displays from Linux ARM laptops.
> 
> Its time China or India intervened and mass produced 2560x1600 pixel
> wide displays, or may be even get a jump
> on the encumbants and aim for big investment in the OLED versions.
> 
> The OLED chemical factories are springing up everywhere and it shouldn't
> be difficult now to start procuring and producing gigantic displays
> skipping all the development steps in between. India and China have more than enough
> chemical engineers to research and produce the best OLED chemicals and 
> sort this problem out and grab the multi-billion dollar market.

1920x1080 should be a minimum resolution for any computer now. There's
truly no excuse to be producing computers with resolutions as low as
1280x720 or 1366x768. I understand that it's 720p, but if it's not good
enough on a 50" TV, why would it be good enough on a computer?


-- 
A.M

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#326344

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-12 14:35 +0000
Message-ID<d81upbFuap7U6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#326340
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:21:25 -0400, A.M wrote:

> On 2015-10-11 11:38 AM, 7 wrote:
>> Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display
>> laptops?
>> 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Why do these stuuupppiidd fscks in Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up
>> about producing out dated low resolution display laptops?
>> 
>> Nobody wants them, yet they still continue to produce this crap.
> 
> True.
> 
>> And anytime someone produces the higher definition displays, its like
>> they come out with comments such as "race to bottom",
>> or some other crap. If they are so familiar with their bottoms,
>> they should go stick their heads up their own colleagues bottoms in
>> some weired magical ritual mis-adventure than whine about it openly
>> trying to keep everyone down.
>> 
>> Its been two or three years now since 2560x1600 or so pixel wide
>> displays have been out, and all stocks sold in the tablet market but
>> none are being made available for the notebook market at similar prices
>> or better prices in a conspiracy to keep out these displays from Linux
>> ARM laptops.
>> 
>> Its time China or India intervened and mass produced 2560x1600 pixel
>> wide displays, or may be even get a jump on the encumbants and aim for
>> big investment in the OLED versions.
>> 
>> The OLED chemical factories are springing up everywhere and it
>> shouldn't be difficult now to start procuring and producing gigantic
>> displays skipping all the development steps in between. India and China
>> have more than enough chemical engineers to research and produce the
>> best OLED chemicals and sort this problem out and grab the
>> multi-billion dollar market.
> 
> 1920x1080 should be a minimum resolution for any computer now. There's
> truly no excuse to be producing computers with resolutions as low as
> 1280x720 or 1366x768. I understand that it's 720p, but if it's not good
> enough on a 50" TV, why would it be good enough on a computer?

The funny part is that for the vast majority of viewers, they wouldn't 
see the difference between a 720p and 1080i/p because the source they are 
mostly using isn't really providing a superb video stream.  ie;cable/sat/
streaming services.




-- 
Lloyd

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#326346

From"A.M" <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-10-12 10:53 -0400
Message-ID<mvghcl$v05$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#326344
On 2015-10-12 10:35 AM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:21:25 -0400, A.M wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-10-11 11:38 AM, 7 wrote:
>>> Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution display
>>> laptops?
>>>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Why do these stuuupppiidd fscks in Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up
>>> about producing out dated low resolution display laptops?
>>>
>>> Nobody wants them, yet they still continue to produce this crap.
>>
>> True.
>>
>>> And anytime someone produces the higher definition displays, its like
>>> they come out with comments such as "race to bottom",
>>> or some other crap. If they are so familiar with their bottoms,
>>> they should go stick their heads up their own colleagues bottoms in
>>> some weired magical ritual mis-adventure than whine about it openly
>>> trying to keep everyone down.
>>>
>>> Its been two or three years now since 2560x1600 or so pixel wide
>>> displays have been out, and all stocks sold in the tablet market but
>>> none are being made available for the notebook market at similar prices
>>> or better prices in a conspiracy to keep out these displays from Linux
>>> ARM laptops.
>>>
>>> Its time China or India intervened and mass produced 2560x1600 pixel
>>> wide displays, or may be even get a jump on the encumbants and aim for
>>> big investment in the OLED versions.
>>>
>>> The OLED chemical factories are springing up everywhere and it
>>> shouldn't be difficult now to start procuring and producing gigantic
>>> displays skipping all the development steps in between. India and China
>>> have more than enough chemical engineers to research and produce the
>>> best OLED chemicals and sort this problem out and grab the
>>> multi-billion dollar market.
>>
>> 1920x1080 should be a minimum resolution for any computer now. There's
>> truly no excuse to be producing computers with resolutions as low as
>> 1280x720 or 1366x768. I understand that it's 720p, but if it's not good
>> enough on a 50" TV, why would it be good enough on a computer?
> 
> The funny part is that for the vast majority of viewers, they wouldn't 
> see the difference between a 720p and 1080i/p because the source they are 
> mostly using isn't really providing a superb video stream.  ie;cable/sat/
> streaming services.

Depending on the size of the screen, they won't see a difference between
720p and 1080i. However, the moment you reach 50", the difference
between 720p and 1080p (notice the p) is very visible. Obviously, a lot
of cable providers try to save on bandwidth by compressing the image
they deliver, so HD never really looks as clean as it should so 720p and
1080i look very similar but my fiber optics-based IPTV system provides
an uncompressed image and the 1080p in particular looks much better than
a 720p image.

-- 
A.M

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#326350

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-12 15:33 +0000
Message-ID<d8226aF1durU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#326346
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:53:06 -0400, A.M wrote:

> On 2015-10-12 10:35 AM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:21:25 -0400, A.M wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2015-10-11 11:38 AM, 7 wrote:
>>>> Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution
>>>> display laptops?
>>>>
>> 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Why do these stuuupppiidd fscks in Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck
>>>> up about producing out dated low resolution display laptops?
>>>>
>>>> Nobody wants them, yet they still continue to produce this crap.
>>>
>>> True.
>>>
>>>> And anytime someone produces the higher definition displays, its like
>>>> they come out with comments such as "race to bottom",
>>>> or some other crap. If they are so familiar with their bottoms,
>>>> they should go stick their heads up their own colleagues bottoms in
>>>> some weired magical ritual mis-adventure than whine about it openly
>>>> trying to keep everyone down.
>>>>
>>>> Its been two or three years now since 2560x1600 or so pixel wide
>>>> displays have been out, and all stocks sold in the tablet market but
>>>> none are being made available for the notebook market at similar
>>>> prices or better prices in a conspiracy to keep out these displays
>>>> from Linux ARM laptops.
>>>>
>>>> Its time China or India intervened and mass produced 2560x1600 pixel
>>>> wide displays, or may be even get a jump on the encumbants and aim
>>>> for big investment in the OLED versions.
>>>>
>>>> The OLED chemical factories are springing up everywhere and it
>>>> shouldn't be difficult now to start procuring and producing gigantic
>>>> displays skipping all the development steps in between. India and
>>>> China have more than enough chemical engineers to research and
>>>> produce the best OLED chemicals and sort this problem out and grab
>>>> the multi-billion dollar market.
>>>
>>> 1920x1080 should be a minimum resolution for any computer now. There's
>>> truly no excuse to be producing computers with resolutions as low as
>>> 1280x720 or 1366x768. I understand that it's 720p, but if it's not
>>> good enough on a 50" TV, why would it be good enough on a computer?
>> 
>> The funny part is that for the vast majority of viewers, they wouldn't
>> see the difference between a 720p and 1080i/p because the source they
>> are mostly using isn't really providing a superb video stream. 
>> ie;cable/sat/ streaming services.
> 
> Depending on the size of the screen, they won't see a difference between
> 720p and 1080i. However, the moment you reach 50", the difference
> between 720p and 1080p (notice the p) is very visible. Obviously, a lot
> of cable providers try to save on bandwidth by compressing the image
> they deliver, so HD never really looks as clean as it should so 720p and
> 1080i look very similar but my fiber optics-based IPTV system provides
> an uncompressed image and the 1080p in particular looks much better than
> a 720p image.

I've got a 73" DLP.  Ever watch ESPN and see how great their stuff 
looks?  It is usually 720p.

1080p does look better, but that isn't what the cable/sat guys are 
putting out except in some PPVs.  Even most streaming is at most 1080i I 
think.




-- 
Lloyd

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#326423

From"A.M" <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-10-12 14:57 -0400
Message-ID<mvgvn1$u1c$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#326350
On 2015-10-12 11:33 AM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:53:06 -0400, A.M wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-10-12 10:35 AM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:21:25 -0400, A.M wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-10-11 11:38 AM, 7 wrote:
>>>>> Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution
>>>>> display laptops?
>>>>>
>>>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do these stuuupppiidd fscks in Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck
>>>>> up about producing out dated low resolution display laptops?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody wants them, yet they still continue to produce this crap.
>>>>
>>>> True.
>>>>
>>>>> And anytime someone produces the higher definition displays, its like
>>>>> they come out with comments such as "race to bottom",
>>>>> or some other crap. If they are so familiar with their bottoms,
>>>>> they should go stick their heads up their own colleagues bottoms in
>>>>> some weired magical ritual mis-adventure than whine about it openly
>>>>> trying to keep everyone down.
>>>>>
>>>>> Its been two or three years now since 2560x1600 or so pixel wide
>>>>> displays have been out, and all stocks sold in the tablet market but
>>>>> none are being made available for the notebook market at similar
>>>>> prices or better prices in a conspiracy to keep out these displays
>>>>> from Linux ARM laptops.
>>>>>
>>>>> Its time China or India intervened and mass produced 2560x1600 pixel
>>>>> wide displays, or may be even get a jump on the encumbants and aim
>>>>> for big investment in the OLED versions.
>>>>>
>>>>> The OLED chemical factories are springing up everywhere and it
>>>>> shouldn't be difficult now to start procuring and producing gigantic
>>>>> displays skipping all the development steps in between. India and
>>>>> China have more than enough chemical engineers to research and
>>>>> produce the best OLED chemicals and sort this problem out and grab
>>>>> the multi-billion dollar market.
>>>>
>>>> 1920x1080 should be a minimum resolution for any computer now. There's
>>>> truly no excuse to be producing computers with resolutions as low as
>>>> 1280x720 or 1366x768. I understand that it's 720p, but if it's not
>>>> good enough on a 50" TV, why would it be good enough on a computer?
>>>
>>> The funny part is that for the vast majority of viewers, they wouldn't
>>> see the difference between a 720p and 1080i/p because the source they
>>> are mostly using isn't really providing a superb video stream. 
>>> ie;cable/sat/ streaming services.
>>
>> Depending on the size of the screen, they won't see a difference between
>> 720p and 1080i. However, the moment you reach 50", the difference
>> between 720p and 1080p (notice the p) is very visible. Obviously, a lot
>> of cable providers try to save on bandwidth by compressing the image
>> they deliver, so HD never really looks as clean as it should so 720p and
>> 1080i look very similar but my fiber optics-based IPTV system provides
>> an uncompressed image and the 1080p in particular looks much better than
>> a 720p image.
> 
> I've got a 73" DLP.  Ever watch ESPN and see how great their stuff 
> looks?  It is usually 720p.
> 
> 1080p does look better, but that isn't what the cable/sat guys are 
> putting out except in some PPVs.  Even most streaming is at most 1080i I 
> think.

If you connect an antenna (yes, the old ones) to your TV and find
signals in your area, whichever are HD are actually broadcasting at
1080i. You'll notice that the image is beautiful and uncompressed so the
details are exquisite. That same TV show on a regular cable broadcast
would be blurry because of the compression. However, some cable/fiber
optics IPTV system are actually broadcasting certain shows in 1080p,
mine is one of them. You won't notice much difference between 1080i and
1080p unless you're watching sports.


-- 
A.M

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#326433

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-12 19:31 +0000
Message-ID<d82g54F55piU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#326423
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 14:57:35 -0400, A.M wrote:

> On 2015-10-12 11:33 AM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:53:06 -0400, A.M wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2015-10-12 10:35 AM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:21:25 -0400, A.M wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-10-11 11:38 AM, 7 wrote:
>>>>>> Why is Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck up about low resolution
>>>>>> display laptops?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do these stuuupppiidd fscks in Taiwan, Korea and Japan so stuck
>>>>>> up about producing out dated low resolution display laptops?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nobody wants them, yet they still continue to produce this crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> True.
>>>>>
>>>>>> And anytime someone produces the higher definition displays, its
>>>>>> like they come out with comments such as "race to bottom",
>>>>>> or some other crap. If they are so familiar with their bottoms,
>>>>>> they should go stick their heads up their own colleagues bottoms in
>>>>>> some weired magical ritual mis-adventure than whine about it openly
>>>>>> trying to keep everyone down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Its been two or three years now since 2560x1600 or so pixel wide
>>>>>> displays have been out, and all stocks sold in the tablet market
>>>>>> but none are being made available for the notebook market at
>>>>>> similar prices or better prices in a conspiracy to keep out these
>>>>>> displays from Linux ARM laptops.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Its time China or India intervened and mass produced 2560x1600
>>>>>> pixel wide displays, or may be even get a jump on the encumbants
>>>>>> and aim for big investment in the OLED versions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The OLED chemical factories are springing up everywhere and it
>>>>>> shouldn't be difficult now to start procuring and producing
>>>>>> gigantic displays skipping all the development steps in between.
>>>>>> India and China have more than enough chemical engineers to
>>>>>> research and produce the best OLED chemicals and sort this problem
>>>>>> out and grab the multi-billion dollar market.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1920x1080 should be a minimum resolution for any computer now.
>>>>> There's truly no excuse to be producing computers with resolutions
>>>>> as low as 1280x720 or 1366x768. I understand that it's 720p, but if
>>>>> it's not good enough on a 50" TV, why would it be good enough on a
>>>>> computer?
>>>>
>>>> The funny part is that for the vast majority of viewers, they
>>>> wouldn't see the difference between a 720p and 1080i/p because the
>>>> source they are mostly using isn't really providing a superb video
>>>> stream. ie;cable/sat/ streaming services.
>>>
>>> Depending on the size of the screen, they won't see a difference
>>> between 720p and 1080i. However, the moment you reach 50", the
>>> difference between 720p and 1080p (notice the p) is very visible.
>>> Obviously, a lot of cable providers try to save on bandwidth by
>>> compressing the image they deliver, so HD never really looks as clean
>>> as it should so 720p and 1080i look very similar but my fiber
>>> optics-based IPTV system provides an uncompressed image and the 1080p
>>> in particular looks much better than a 720p image.
>> 
>> I've got a 73" DLP.  Ever watch ESPN and see how great their stuff
>> looks?  It is usually 720p.
>> 
>> 1080p does look better, but that isn't what the cable/sat guys are
>> putting out except in some PPVs.  Even most streaming is at most 1080i
>> I think.
> 
> If you connect an antenna (yes, the old ones) to your TV and find
> signals in your area, whichever are HD are actually broadcasting at
> 1080i. You'll notice that the image is beautiful and uncompressed so the
> details are exquisite. That same TV show on a regular cable broadcast
> would be blurry because of the compression. However, some cable/fiber
> optics IPTV system are actually broadcasting certain shows in 1080p,
> mine is one of them. You won't notice much difference between 1080i and
> 1080p unless you're watching sports.

HD OTA signals may be 720p or 1080i around here, depending on channel.



-- 
Lloyd

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