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Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8

Started byJeremy Bentham <nobody@anemone.mooo.com>
First post2015-09-12 19:49 +0200
Last post2015-09-16 13:44 -0700
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  Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Jeremy Bentham <nobody@anemone.mooo.com> - 2015-09-12 19:49 +0200
    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-12 13:48 -0600
      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 22:28 +0000
        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-13 00:33 +0200
          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lehman <drlehman022@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 23:46 +0100
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-13 00:59 +0200
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2015-09-13 21:20 +0200
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "Dr. John Grubor" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-13 20:08 +0000
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-12 22:48 -0700
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-13 03:56 -0500
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-13 10:38 -0700
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-13 10:42 -0700
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-13 13:26 -0500
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-13 11:37 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-13 14:02 -0500
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-14 10:02 -0400
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-14 16:50 +0200
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-14 11:53 -0400
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-14 09:18 -0400
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 09:34 -0700
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 12:10 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 19:12 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-14 13:01 -0700
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 20:04 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 13:14 -0700
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-14 14:19 -0700
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 21:26 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-15 00:35 +0200
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 22:44 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 16:03 -0700
                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-15 01:16 +0200
                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 23:25 +0000
                                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 16:51 -0700
                                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 23:53 +0000
                                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 23:57 +0000
                                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-15 10:00 +0200
                                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 12:12 +0000
                                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-15 14:27 +0200
                                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 12:35 +0000
                                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-15 07:42 -0500
                                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 12:50 +0000
                                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-15 11:17 -0700
                                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:19 -0600
                                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-15 10:00 -0700
                                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-15 09:58 -0700
                                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:18 -0600
                                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 17:03 -0700
                                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 00:22 +0000
                                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 17:34 -0700
                                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 00:47 +0000
                                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 18:07 -0700
                                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 21:00 -0700
                                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-15 08:48 -0400
                                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-15 10:01 -0700
                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 16:33 -0700
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 14:29 -0700
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-16 10:20 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-09-16 12:36 -0400
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-16 10:37 -0700
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-16 12:51 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-16 23:31 -0700
                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 07:13 -0500
                                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-17 08:20 -0400
                                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-17 10:37 -0700
                                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-26 14:30 -0500
                                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 21:01 +0000
                                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-26 14:51 -0700
                                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-26 22:03 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-09-16 18:23 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-16 23:33 -0700
                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-17 11:42 -0700
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-16 12:39 -0700
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-16 15:15 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 20:21 +0000
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-21 02:55 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-21 10:08 +0200
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-20 17:37 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-20 15:39 -0700
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-20 18:55 -0400
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2015-09-21 08:35 -0300
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 13:25 -0700
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-13 11:33 -0700
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-13 11:39 -0700
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 14:46 -0400
                      Where are Micheal Glasser's quotes? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-13 13:56 -0500
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-13 12:24 -0700
          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "p-0''0-h the cat (UK) - The voice of the Sheeple" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2015-09-13 00:09 +0100
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-13 01:11 +0200
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "p-0''0-h the cat (UK) - The voice of the Sheeple" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2015-09-13 00:16 +0100
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-12 22:59 -0400
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-12 21:00 -0600
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2015-09-13 21:28 +0200
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "Dr. John Grubor" <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-13 20:53 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-13 23:15 +0200
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2015-09-14 21:44 +0200
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2015-09-14 23:44 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-14 21:11 -0600
          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-12 20:59 -0600
        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-12 22:56 -0400
        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "Cola Zealot" <Cola_Zealot@fuckoff.com> - 2015-09-13 21:12 +0200
          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-14 11:42 -0600
          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-22 19:00 -0500
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 09:51 -0400
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-23 12:22 -0600
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2015-09-23 17:46 -0300
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-24 16:04 -0600
    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-09-12 16:49 -0400
      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-12 21:02 -0600
      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-12 22:54 -0700
      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> - 2015-09-13 14:29 -0500
        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-13 13:18 -0700
          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows  8 Euclides Zoto <euclides_zoto@optimum.net> - 2015-09-19 12:30 -0700
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows  8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-20 15:20 -0700
    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Bubba <Bub@ba> - 2015-09-13 14:16 +0200
    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Bubba <Bub@ba> - 2015-09-13 15:14 +0200
      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-13 11:46 -0600
        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-13 11:49 -0700
          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Jenny Telia <jnytelia@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 09:26 +0200
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-14 12:06 -0400
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2015-09-14 12:16 -0400
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2015-09-14 14:42 -0300
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-14 19:33 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-14 20:22 -0400
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2015-09-14 22:51 +0000
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2015-09-14 22:51 +0000
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-14 19:42 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 23:55 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-15 08:46 -0400
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-15 10:26 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 17:34 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-15 11:03 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 18:11 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-09-15 14:22 -0400
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-15 13:53 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 18:59 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-16 10:55 -0400
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-26 14:34 -0500
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 18:54 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 08:42 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 17:10 +0000
                                dizum coward's post deleted, unread chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 12:54 -0500
                                  Re: chrisv loses argument, resorts to vandalism, snicker. Re: dizum coward's post deleted, unread "P.M." <pm@example.com> - 2015-09-18 01:16 +0200
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-18 12:04 -0400
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-15 13:13 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 18:15 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-15 20:08 -0400
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-15 15:18 -0400
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-15 19:20 +0000
                            Turdv is just retarded, so filter out this potty mouth villain. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:22 -0600
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-15 14:15 -0400
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-15 14:14 -0400
          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-14 11:48 -0600
        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Neil <neil@myplaceofwork.com> - 2015-09-13 15:32 -0400
          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-13 18:54 -0400
          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-14 11:50 -0600
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 17:56 +0000
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-14 21:15 -0600
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-14 20:26 -0700
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 20:42 -0700
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 20:43 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-15 06:14 -0400
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-15 10:27 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2015-09-15 14:45 -0300
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:36 -0600
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-16 07:59 -0400
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-16 05:39 -0700
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-16 14:12 -0400
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-16 23:36 -0700
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:34 -0600
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:34 -0600
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:28 -0600
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 20:40 -0700
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-14 21:55 -0700
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-15 10:30 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-15 15:15 -0400
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:40 -0600
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-09-15 16:54 -0400
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-16 12:10 -0500
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-16 12:30 -0500
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 18:55 +0000
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-18 13:09 -0600
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-16 09:51 -0500
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-16 11:03 -0400
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 18:28 +0000
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 18:28 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-16 11:46 -0700
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-16 23:37 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 07:32 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 12:40 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-17 08:52 -0400
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-09-17 07:56 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-18 13:10 -0600
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-16 12:51 -0700
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 19:56 +0000
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-16 15:13 -0500
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 20:17 +0000
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-09-16 17:25 -0400
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 21:40 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-09-16 17:45 -0400
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 22:18 +0000
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-09-16 18:27 -0400
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 22:35 +0000
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-16 18:50 -0700
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 07:37 -0500
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-17 18:59 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 00:04 +0000
                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-17 17:16 -0700
                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-17 17:15 -0700
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-16 14:47 -0700
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-16 17:46 -0400
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 07:25 -0500
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 12:41 +0000
                                Chrisv is a worthless advocate. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-18 13:15 -0600
                                  Re: Chrisv is a worthless advocate. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 19:30 +0000
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-18 13:14 -0600
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-16 13:24 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-18 13:12 -0600
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-16 23:38 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-17 06:05 -0400
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-17 03:57 -0700
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-17 13:33 +0200
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-17 07:47 -0400
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-17 08:21 -0400
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 08:05 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-09-17 08:14 -0500
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-17 10:44 -0400
                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-17 17:28 +0200
                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-17 13:00 -0700
                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 15:09 -0500
                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-17 19:09 -0500
                                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-17 19:02 -0700
                                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 02:19 +0000
                                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-18 09:21 +0200
                                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-18 07:08 -0500
                                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-18 09:25 -0400
                                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 08:15 -0700
                                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-18 10:52 -0700
                                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-18 11:04 -0700
                                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 22:06 -0700
                                                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-18 11:06 -0700
                                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-18 09:22 -0400
                                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-18 10:47 -0700
                                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-21 03:20 -0500
                                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-21 05:49 -0400
                                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-21 03:16 -0700
                                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-21 20:59 -0500
                                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-21 19:05 -0700
                                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-21 21:09 -0700
                                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2015-09-18 12:30 -0300
                                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-18 10:45 -0700
                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-18 10:32 -0700
                                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-18 13:30 -0700
                                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-18 15:50 -0600
                                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-18 13:41 -0700
                                              There is no FOSS Culling Committee Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-22 01:40 -0500
                                                Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 06:33 -0700
                                                Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2015-09-22 10:34 -0300
                                                  Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 06:44 -0700
                                                  Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-22 08:54 -0500
                                                    Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-22 10:52 -0400
                                                      Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-22 12:44 -0400
                                                        Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 10:21 -0700
                                                  Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-22 09:35 -0700
                                                  Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-22 18:39 -0600
                                                    Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 09:56 -0400
                                                      Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-23 12:25 -0600
                                                Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Yrrah <Yrrah-acf@acf.invalid> - 2015-09-22 16:28 +0200
                                                  Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee "p-0''0-h the cat (ES)" <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> - 2015-09-22 15:45 +0100
                                                Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-22 10:38 -0700
                                                  Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-22 12:54 -0500
                                                    Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-22 16:41 -0700
                                                      Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-22 19:09 -0500
                                                        Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2015-09-22 20:58 -0700
                                                          Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee sbd <sbd.pambu@safe-mail.net> - 2015-09-23 09:16 -0300
                                                          Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-27 03:38 -0500
                                                            Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-27 12:14 +0200
                                                            Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-27 07:05 -0400
                                                      Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-23 02:14 +0200
                                                        Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 07:09 -0500
                                                          Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 09:53 -0400
                                                        Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-23 12:26 -0600
                                                          Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2015-09-23 17:44 -0300
                                                            Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 16:06 -0500
                                                              Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 17:17 -0400
                                                              Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-24 16:07 -0600
                                                                Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 09:23 -0400
                                                            Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 17:07 -0400
                                                            Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-24 16:06 -0600
                                                              Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 09:21 -0400
                                                                Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-25 12:21 -0600
                                                                  Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-25 18:01 -0400
                                                                    Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2015-09-26 00:20 +0000
                                                                      Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-25 17:36 -0700
                                                    Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-22 18:42 -0600
                                                  Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-22 18:56 -0500
                                                    Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-22 20:57 -0400
                                                      Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-09-23 11:39 +0100
                                                        Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 07:03 -0500
                                                          Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-23 18:20 +0000
                                                            Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 11:44 -0700
                                                              Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-23 15:43 -0400
                                                                Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-23 12:47 -0700
                                                            Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-23 14:29 -0600
                                                            Re: There is no FOSS Culling Committee DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-23 19:39 -0400
                                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2015-09-28 17:33 -0500
                                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-18 07:25 -0500
                                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-18 10:54 -0700
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-17 10:17 -0700
                                  Chris Ahlstrom is a lin-troll and hypocrite. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-18 13:17 -0600
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-17 08:08 -0400
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 07:43 -0500
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-17 12:49 +0000
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-18 13:17 -0600
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-17 07:29 -0500
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-17 08:16 -0400
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-21 03:07 -0500
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-21 10:10 +0200
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-21 11:58 -0600
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-21 20:41 +0200
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-21 13:41 -0700
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-21 22:45 +0200
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-21 14:06 -0700
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-21 16:46 -0700
                                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-22 09:41 +0200
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 05:41 -0700
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 06:35 -0700
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 05:51 -0700
                                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-22 09:59 -0400
                                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-22 09:53 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-21 14:49 -0600
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-21 23:14 +0200
                              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-22 18:43 -0600
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-21 17:12 -0400
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 23:15 -0700
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:40 -0600
      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 "p-0''0-h the cat (UK) - The voice of the Sheeple" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2015-09-13 19:56 +0100
        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2015-09-14 04:46 -0400
          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-14 10:49 +0200
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-14 11:52 -0600
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 12:05 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 14:05 -0700
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 17:37 -0700
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 18:07 -0700
                      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 20:50 -0700
                        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-14 21:51 -0700
                          Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-15 11:01 -0700
                            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-15 11:16 -0700
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-14 21:18 -0600
                  Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 20:52 -0700
                    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-15 14:44 -0600
            Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2015-09-14 20:11 -0400
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-09-14 17:41 -0700
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-15 09:52 +0200
              Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Jenny Telia <jnytelia@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 15:32 +0200
                Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows8 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-16 17:58 +0200
    Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Arc Futahito <futahito.arc@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 13:10 -0700
      Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 20:20 +0000
        Re: Microsoft Forces Windows 10 Downloads Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-16 13:44 -0700

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#320707

FromShadow <Sh@dow.br>
Date2015-09-14 14:42 -0300
Message-ID<k81eva9vt80opm0v9bovgegvv7vol0made@4ax.com>
In reply to#320691
On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 12:06:37 -0400, "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> wrote:

>On 2015-09-14 3:26 AM, Jenny Telia wrote:
>> On 13/09/2015 20:49, Big Bad Bob wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>> [although I like BSD, it doesn't have the same kinds of support at this
>>> time, but may in the future...]
>>>
>>> Don't count out IBM.
>>>
>> 
>> Haha haaaa...
>> 
>> Are they the geniuses that gave us OS2?
>
>A promising operating system ruined by IBM's general incompetence.

	It still is a very good operating system, if it's not
connected to the internet.
>
>> The Chinese make their PCs now
>> ('Lenovo')
>
>And they are shit. My wife wanted to buy a Lenovo when she got her
>laptop in 2012 and even though I told her that they are no longer made
>by IBM, she was convinced that they were just as good. Three years
>later, the hard disk is dying and the hinges holding the lcd to the rest
>of the computer broke on their own. The LCD just hangs off of the
>computer like Ahlstrom's limp dick. It's so worthless that I convinced
>my wife that it was a perfect candidate for Linux.
	
	I know this will come as a shock, but all laptops come
equipped with hard drives made by  Asians. So even if you buy 100%
American, when you open it up, you will see it is not.
	As to the limp dick thing, I'm sure your wife has a share of
the blame. Don't get depressed, it will only make matters worse.
	Appreciate the good word for Linux. If Linux can solve HDon
/limp-dick issues, maybe it should have a bigger following.
	[]'s
	
-- 
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy  - Google 2012

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#320779

From"A.M" <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-09-14 19:33 -0400
Message-ID<mt7lbt$s39$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#320707
On 2015-09-14 1:42 PM, Shadow wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 12:06:37 -0400, "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-09-14 3:26 AM, Jenny Telia wrote:
>>> On 13/09/2015 20:49, Big Bad Bob wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> [although I like BSD, it doesn't have the same kinds of support at this
>>>> time, but may in the future...]
>>>>
>>>> Don't count out IBM.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Haha haaaa...
>>>
>>> Are they the geniuses that gave us OS2?
>>
>> A promising operating system ruined by IBM's general incompetence.
> 
> 	It still is a very good operating system, if it's not
> connected to the internet.
>>
>>> The Chinese make their PCs now
>>> ('Lenovo')
>>
>> And they are shit. My wife wanted to buy a Lenovo when she got her
>> laptop in 2012 and even though I told her that they are no longer made
>> by IBM, she was convinced that they were just as good. Three years
>> later, the hard disk is dying and the hinges holding the lcd to the rest
>> of the computer broke on their own. The LCD just hangs off of the
>> computer like Ahlstrom's limp dick. It's so worthless that I convinced
>> my wife that it was a perfect candidate for Linux.
> 	
> 	I know this will come as a shock, but all laptops come
> equipped with hard drives made by  Asians. So even if you buy 100%
> American, when you open it up, you will see it is not.

Really? Lenovo, which is owned by Chinky Winkies uses Asian parts? I'M
FLABBERGASTED!

> 	As to the limp dick thing, I'm sure your wife has a share of
> the blame. Don't get depressed, it will only make matters worse.

You don't have to defend Ahlstrom. He'll wipe your dick no matter what
you do. It makes him happy.

< snip >

-- 
A.M

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#320801

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2015-09-14 20:22 -0400
Message-ID<mt7o8c$3ml$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#320707
Shadow wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 12:06:37 -0400, "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
>
>>And they are shit. My wife wanted to buy a Lenovo when she got her
>>laptop in 2012 and even though I told her that they are no longer made
>>by IBM, she was convinced that they were just as good. Three years
>>later, the hard disk is dying and the hinges holding the lcd to the rest
>>of the computer broke on their own. The LCD just hangs off of the
>>computer like Ahlstrom's limp dick. It's so worthless that I convinced
>>my wife that it was a perfect candidate for Linux.
> 	
> 	I know this will come as a shock, but all laptops come
> equipped with hard drives made by  Asians.

As I understand it, the vast majority of laptops, including the brand-names,
are made in Taiwan.

> So even if you buy 100%
> American, when you open it up, you will see it is not.

-- 
Q:	What's the difference between Bell Labs and the Boy Scouts of America?
A:	The Boy Scouts have adult supervision.

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#320771

FromDiesel <me@privacy.net>
Date2015-09-14 22:51 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA515C04EC3522F7D9A8@dieselpower.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#320691
"A.M" <.m@nsn.s> news:mt6r6s$5h0$1@dont-email.me Mon, 14 Sep 2015
16:06:37 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> On 2015-09-14 3:26 AM, Jenny Telia wrote:
>> On 13/09/2015 20:49, Big Bad Bob wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>> [although I like BSD, it doesn't have the same kinds of support
>>> at this time, but may in the future...]
>>>
>>> Don't count out IBM.
>>>
>> 
>> Haha haaaa...
>> 
>> Are they the geniuses that gave us OS2?
> 
> A promising operating system ruined by IBM's general incompetence.

A kickass operating system ruined by IBM's marketing incompetence. It 
was superior to Windows. More stable, more secure. More reliable. 
Awesome to develop software under, too. It was a great OS!
 
>> The Chinese make their PCs now
>> ('Lenovo')
> 
> And they are shit. My wife wanted to buy a Lenovo when she got her
> laptop in 2012 and even though I told her that they are no longer
> made by IBM, she was convinced that they were just as good. Three
> years later, the hard disk is dying and the hinges holding the lcd
> to the rest of the computer broke on their own. The LCD just hangs
> off of the computer like Ahlstrom's limp dick. It's so worthless
> that I convinced my wife that it was a perfect candidate for
> Linux. 

They aren't the same since IBM off loaded them. :( They're junk now, 
imo. As you said.
 


-- 
Optimist: Someone who doesn't know all the facts yet.

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#320770

FromDiesel <me@privacy.net>
Date2015-09-14 22:51 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA515C04E5A1B8F7D9A8@dieselpower.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#320643
Jenny Telia <jnytelia@gmail.com> news:mt5sna$heq$1@dont-email.me
Mon, 14 Sep 2015 07:26:01 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> On 13/09/2015 20:49, Big Bad Bob wrote:
> 
>> 
>> [although I like BSD, it doesn't have the same kinds of support
>> at this time, but may in the future...]
>> 
>> Don't count out IBM.
>> 
> 
> Haha haaaa...
> 
> Are they the geniuses that gave us OS2? The Chinese make their PCs
> now ('Lenovo') and IBM have become what they always were in spirit
> - an 'empty suit' organisation.  Yes, Bill Gates helped pull the
> rug under their feet. However they were always destined for
> mediocrity. May they RIP ('Rot in Peace').
> 

OS2/Warp was a superior OS to Windows. It suffered from piss poor 
marketing by comparison and some shady shit MS pulled. I ran Os/2 Warp 
v4 myself.. it rocked on a 486!


-- 
Optimist: Someone who doesn't know all the facts yet.

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#320783

From"A.M" <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-09-14 19:42 -0400
Message-ID<mt7ltp$s39$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#320770
On 2015-09-14 6:51 PM, Diesel wrote:
> Jenny Telia <jnytelia@gmail.com> news:mt5sna$heq$1@dont-email.me
> Mon, 14 Sep 2015 07:26:01 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 
> 
>> On 13/09/2015 20:49, Big Bad Bob wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> [although I like BSD, it doesn't have the same kinds of support
>>> at this time, but may in the future...]
>>>
>>> Don't count out IBM.
>>>
>>
>> Haha haaaa...
>>
>> Are they the geniuses that gave us OS2? The Chinese make their PCs
>> now ('Lenovo') and IBM have become what they always were in spirit
>> - an 'empty suit' organisation.  Yes, Bill Gates helped pull the
>> rug under their feet. However they were always destined for
>> mediocrity. May they RIP ('Rot in Peace').
>>
> 
> OS2/Warp was a superior OS to Windows. It suffered from piss poor 
> marketing by comparison and some shady shit MS pulled. I ran Os/2 Warp 
> v4 myself.. it rocked on a 486!

Well, OS/2 still exists as eComStation. You're free to use IT rather
than Windows or Linux.


-- 
A.M

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#320792

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-14 23:55 +0000
Message-ID<d5p52qFmug5U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#320783
On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 19:42:35 -0400, A.M wrote:

> On 2015-09-14 6:51 PM, Diesel wrote:
>> Jenny Telia <jnytelia@gmail.com> news:mt5sna$heq$1@dont-email.me Mon,
>> 14 Sep 2015 07:26:01 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:
>> 
>>> On 13/09/2015 20:49, Big Bad Bob wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> [although I like BSD, it doesn't have the same kinds of support at
>>>> this time, but may in the future...]
>>>>
>>>> Don't count out IBM.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Haha haaaa...
>>>
>>> Are they the geniuses that gave us OS2? The Chinese make their PCs now
>>> ('Lenovo') and IBM have become what they always were in spirit - an
>>> 'empty suit' organisation.  Yes, Bill Gates helped pull the rug under
>>> their feet. However they were always destined for mediocrity. May they
>>> RIP ('Rot in Peace').
>>>
>>>
>> OS2/Warp was a superior OS to Windows. It suffered from piss poor
>> marketing by comparison and some shady shit MS pulled. I ran Os/2 Warp
>> v4 myself.. it rocked on a 486!
> 
> Well, OS/2 still exists as eComStation. You're free to use IT rather
> than Windows or Linux.

While I loved OS/2 that ship has sailed...   :(



-- 
Lloyd

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#320897

From"A.M" <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-09-15 08:46 -0400
Message-ID<mt93s8$8br$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#320792
On 2015-09-14 7:55 PM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 19:42:35 -0400, A.M wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-09-14 6:51 PM, Diesel wrote:
>>> Jenny Telia <jnytelia@gmail.com> news:mt5sna$heq$1@dont-email.me Mon,
>>> 14 Sep 2015 07:26:01 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 13/09/2015 20:49, Big Bad Bob wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> [although I like BSD, it doesn't have the same kinds of support at
>>>>> this time, but may in the future...]
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't count out IBM.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Haha haaaa...
>>>>
>>>> Are they the geniuses that gave us OS2? The Chinese make their PCs now
>>>> ('Lenovo') and IBM have become what they always were in spirit - an
>>>> 'empty suit' organisation.  Yes, Bill Gates helped pull the rug under
>>>> their feet. However they were always destined for mediocrity. May they
>>>> RIP ('Rot in Peace').
>>>>
>>>>
>>> OS2/Warp was a superior OS to Windows. It suffered from piss poor
>>> marketing by comparison and some shady shit MS pulled. I ran Os/2 Warp
>>> v4 myself.. it rocked on a 486!
>>
>> Well, OS/2 still exists as eComStation. You're free to use IT rather
>> than Windows or Linux.
> 
> While I loved OS/2 that ship has sailed...   :(

I spent my adolescence assuming that OS/2 was going to become a
phenomenon. Once Windows 95 came out though, OS/2 was completely
forgotten. Clearly, IBM was too incompetent to take the steam away from
Microsoft despite the fact that it was still the most important name in
computing at the time.

Now, the only thing standing in the way of Microsoft's complete
dominance of the x86 and x64 platforms is Linux.
-- 
A.M

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#320929

FromBig Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local>
Date2015-09-15 10:26 -0700
Message-ID<ROadnTj3yN1OyWXInZ2dnUU7-S2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#320897
On 09/15/15 05:46, A.M so wittily quipped:
> On 2015-09-14 7:55 PM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 19:42:35 -0400, A.M wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-09-14 6:51 PM, Diesel wrote:
>>>> Jenny Telia <jnytelia@gmail.com> news:mt5sna$heq$1@dont-email.me Mon,
>>>> 14 Sep 2015 07:26:01 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 13/09/2015 20:49, Big Bad Bob wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> [although I like BSD, it doesn't have the same kinds of support at
>>>>>> this time, but may in the future...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't count out IBM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Haha haaaa...
>>>>>
>>>>> Are they the geniuses that gave us OS2? The Chinese make their PCs now
>>>>> ('Lenovo') and IBM have become what they always were in spirit - an
>>>>> 'empty suit' organisation.  Yes, Bill Gates helped pull the rug under
>>>>> their feet. However they were always destined for mediocrity. May they
>>>>> RIP ('Rot in Peace').
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> OS2/Warp was a superior OS to Windows. It suffered from piss poor
>>>> marketing by comparison and some shady shit MS pulled. I ran Os/2 Warp
>>>> v4 myself.. it rocked on a 486!
>>>
>>> Well, OS/2 still exists as eComStation. You're free to use IT rather
>>> than Windows or Linux.
>>
>> While I loved OS/2 that ship has sailed...   :(
> 
> I spent my adolescence assuming that OS/2 was going to become a
> phenomenon.

I took a class in OS/2 presentation manager programming at a local
community college, right before Windows 3.0 was released.  I believed
that IBM's API was superior in a lot of ways, and I liked the function
naming better (object/verb instead of verb/object - so 'WindowCreate()'
for OS/2, 'CreateWindow()' for MS Windows).

> Once Windows 95 came out though, OS/2 was completely forgotten.

yep.  OS/2 couldn't run the new 32-bit windows applications out of the box.

> Now, the only thing standing in the way of Microsoft's complete
> dominance of the x86 and x64 platforms is Linux.

not entirely.  there ARE others, but Linux is the best candidate.  It's
winning the "phone war" (via Android), it's winning the 'embedded' war
(via busybox and OpenWRT and things like that), and it appears to be
winning for SLABS as well (e-readers and MeGo and 'droid slabs and whatnot).

but yeah, Linux has the best shot at the moment.

Still you can't count out things like 'GhostBSD'...





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#320933

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-15 17:34 +0000
Message-ID<d5r35jF7694U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#320929
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 10:26:20 -0700, Big Bad Bob wrote:

> On 09/15/15 05:46, A.M so wittily quipped:
>> On 2015-09-14 7:55 PM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 19:42:35 -0400, A.M wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-09-14 6:51 PM, Diesel wrote:
>>>>> Jenny Telia <jnytelia@gmail.com> news:mt5sna$heq$1@dont-email.me
>>>>> Mon, 14 Sep 2015 07:26:01 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13/09/2015 20:49, Big Bad Bob wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [although I like BSD, it doesn't have the same kinds of support at
>>>>>>> this time, but may in the future...]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't count out IBM.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Haha haaaa...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are they the geniuses that gave us OS2? The Chinese make their PCs
>>>>>> now ('Lenovo') and IBM have become what they always were in spirit
>>>>>> - an 'empty suit' organisation.  Yes, Bill Gates helped pull the
>>>>>> rug under their feet. However they were always destined for
>>>>>> mediocrity. May they RIP ('Rot in Peace').
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> OS2/Warp was a superior OS to Windows. It suffered from piss poor
>>>>> marketing by comparison and some shady shit MS pulled. I ran Os/2
>>>>> Warp v4 myself.. it rocked on a 486!
>>>>
>>>> Well, OS/2 still exists as eComStation. You're free to use IT rather
>>>> than Windows or Linux.
>>>
>>> While I loved OS/2 that ship has sailed...   :(
>> 
>> I spent my adolescence assuming that OS/2 was going to become a
>> phenomenon.
> 
> I took a class in OS/2 presentation manager programming at a local
> community college, right before Windows 3.0 was released.  I believed
> that IBM's API was superior in a lot of ways, and I liked the function
> naming better (object/verb instead of verb/object - so 'WindowCreate()'
> for OS/2, 'CreateWindow()' for MS Windows).
> 
>> Once Windows 95 came out though, OS/2 was completely forgotten.
> 
> yep.  OS/2 couldn't run the new 32-bit windows applications out of the
> box.
> 
>> Now, the only thing standing in the way of Microsoft's complete
>> dominance of the x86 and x64 platforms is Linux.
> 
> not entirely.  there ARE others, but Linux is the best candidate.  It's
> winning the "phone war" (via Android), it's winning the 'embedded' war
> (via busybox and OpenWRT and things like that), and it appears to be
> winning for SLABS as well (e-readers and MeGo and 'droid slabs and
> whatnot).
> 
> but yeah, Linux has the best shot at the moment.
> 
> Still you can't count out things like 'GhostBSD'...

Desktop linux has no shot at taking over the desktop.



-- 
Lloyd

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#320944

FromBig Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local>
Date2015-09-15 11:03 -0700
Message-ID<pNGdnRlLaY8LwGXInZ2dnUU7-eGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#320933
On 09/15/15 10:34, Lloyd Parsons so wittily quipped:
> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 10:26:20 -0700, Big Bad Bob wrote:
> 
>> On 09/15/15 05:46, A.M so wittily quipped:
>>> On 2015-09-14 7:55 PM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 19:42:35 -0400, A.M wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-09-14 6:51 PM, Diesel wrote:
>>>>>> Jenny Telia <jnytelia@gmail.com> news:mt5sna$heq$1@dont-email.me
>>>>>> Mon, 14 Sep 2015 07:26:01 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 13/09/2015 20:49, Big Bad Bob wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [although I like BSD, it doesn't have the same kinds of support at
>>>>>>>> this time, but may in the future...]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't count out IBM.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Haha haaaa...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are they the geniuses that gave us OS2? The Chinese make their PCs
>>>>>>> now ('Lenovo') and IBM have become what they always were in spirit
>>>>>>> - an 'empty suit' organisation.  Yes, Bill Gates helped pull the
>>>>>>> rug under their feet. However they were always destined for
>>>>>>> mediocrity. May they RIP ('Rot in Peace').
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> OS2/Warp was a superior OS to Windows. It suffered from piss poor
>>>>>> marketing by comparison and some shady shit MS pulled. I ran Os/2
>>>>>> Warp v4 myself.. it rocked on a 486!
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, OS/2 still exists as eComStation. You're free to use IT rather
>>>>> than Windows or Linux.
>>>>
>>>> While I loved OS/2 that ship has sailed...   :(
>>>
>>> I spent my adolescence assuming that OS/2 was going to become a
>>> phenomenon.
>>
>> I took a class in OS/2 presentation manager programming at a local
>> community college, right before Windows 3.0 was released.  I believed
>> that IBM's API was superior in a lot of ways, and I liked the function
>> naming better (object/verb instead of verb/object - so 'WindowCreate()'
>> for OS/2, 'CreateWindow()' for MS Windows).
>>
>>> Once Windows 95 came out though, OS/2 was completely forgotten.
>>
>> yep.  OS/2 couldn't run the new 32-bit windows applications out of the
>> box.
>>
>>> Now, the only thing standing in the way of Microsoft's complete
>>> dominance of the x86 and x64 platforms is Linux.
>>
>> not entirely.  there ARE others, but Linux is the best candidate.  It's
>> winning the "phone war" (via Android), it's winning the 'embedded' war
>> (via busybox and OpenWRT and things like that), and it appears to be
>> winning for SLABS as well (e-readers and MeGo and 'droid slabs and
>> whatnot).
>>
>> but yeah, Linux has the best shot at the moment.
>>
>> Still you can't count out things like 'GhostBSD'...
> 
> Desktop linux has no shot at taking over the desktop.
> 

and you say that, because... ?

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#320947

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-15 18:11 +0000
Message-ID<d5r59uF7djtU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#320944
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 11:03:43 -0700, Big Bad Bob wrote:

> On 09/15/15 10:34, Lloyd Parsons so wittily quipped:
>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 10:26:20 -0700, Big Bad Bob wrote:
>> 
>>> On 09/15/15 05:46, A.M so wittily quipped:
>>>> On 2015-09-14 7:55 PM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 19:42:35 -0400, A.M wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2015-09-14 6:51 PM, Diesel wrote:
>>>>>>> Jenny Telia <jnytelia@gmail.com> news:mt5sna$heq$1@dont-email.me
>>>>>>> Mon, 14 Sep 2015 07:26:01 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 13/09/2015 20:49, Big Bad Bob wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [although I like BSD, it doesn't have the same kinds of support
>>>>>>>>> at this time, but may in the future...]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don't count out IBM.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Haha haaaa...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are they the geniuses that gave us OS2? The Chinese make their
>>>>>>>> PCs now ('Lenovo') and IBM have become what they always were in
>>>>>>>> spirit - an 'empty suit' organisation.  Yes, Bill Gates helped
>>>>>>>> pull the rug under their feet. However they were always destined
>>>>>>>> for mediocrity. May they RIP ('Rot in Peace').
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OS2/Warp was a superior OS to Windows. It suffered from piss poor
>>>>>>> marketing by comparison and some shady shit MS pulled. I ran Os/2
>>>>>>> Warp v4 myself.. it rocked on a 486!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, OS/2 still exists as eComStation. You're free to use IT
>>>>>> rather than Windows or Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> While I loved OS/2 that ship has sailed...   :(
>>>>
>>>> I spent my adolescence assuming that OS/2 was going to become a
>>>> phenomenon.
>>>
>>> I took a class in OS/2 presentation manager programming at a local
>>> community college, right before Windows 3.0 was released.  I believed
>>> that IBM's API was superior in a lot of ways, and I liked the function
>>> naming better (object/verb instead of verb/object - so
>>> 'WindowCreate()'
>>> for OS/2, 'CreateWindow()' for MS Windows).
>>>
>>>> Once Windows 95 came out though, OS/2 was completely forgotten.
>>>
>>> yep.  OS/2 couldn't run the new 32-bit windows applications out of the
>>> box.
>>>
>>>> Now, the only thing standing in the way of Microsoft's complete
>>>> dominance of the x86 and x64 platforms is Linux.
>>>
>>> not entirely.  there ARE others, but Linux is the best candidate. 
>>> It's winning the "phone war" (via Android), it's winning the
>>> 'embedded' war (via busybox and OpenWRT and things like that), and it
>>> appears to be winning for SLABS as well (e-readers and MeGo and 'droid
>>> slabs and whatnot).
>>>
>>> but yeah, Linux has the best shot at the moment.
>>>
>>> Still you can't count out things like 'GhostBSD'...
>> 
>> Desktop linux has no shot at taking over the desktop.
>> 
>> 
> and you say that, because... ?

Simple history and trends.  If after 20+ years of getting no traction on 
the desktop, it isn't going to happen now.  And that's because you have 
two competing interests in the linux desktop arena.

Interest #1 is the overall community that loves the plethora of distros 
and UIs.  As a free and open OS with a strong hobbyist/developer 
community behind that thought it is good.  but...

Interest #2 is the vastly smaller part that would like to get some 
commercial success with Linux desktop.  For them the number of distros 
and UIs make having a consistent marketing message nearly impossible to 
do.

Doesn't help that when Canonical made a run at that with a mix of free 
and commercial software the 'community' howled loudly.  Couple that with 
probably the poorest batch of support forums out there and almost no 
actual formal support structure and you have the prescription for failure.

Note that I'm not at all saying that Linux on the desktop isn't 
technically a good OS, just that from a marketing/sales point of view, 
there is no way to make it a commercial success.




-- 
Lloyd

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#320957

FromCaver1 <caver1@inthemud.org>
Date2015-09-15 14:22 -0400
Message-ID<mt9nha$rfj$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#320947
On 09/15/2015 02:11 PM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 11:03:43 -0700, Big Bad Bob wrote:
>
>> On 09/15/15 10:34, Lloyd Parsons so wittily quipped:
>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 10:26:20 -0700, Big Bad Bob wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 09/15/15 05:46, A.M so wittily quipped:
>>>>> On 2015-09-14 7:55 PM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 19:42:35 -0400, A.M wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2015-09-14 6:51 PM, Diesel wrote:
>>>>>>>> Jenny Telia <jnytelia@gmail.com> news:mt5sna$heq$1@dont-email.me
>>>>>>>> Mon, 14 Sep 2015 07:26:01 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 13/09/2015 20:49, Big Bad Bob wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [although I like BSD, it doesn't have the same kinds of support
>>>>>>>>>> at this time, but may in the future...]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don't count out IBM.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Haha haaaa...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are they the geniuses that gave us OS2? The Chinese make their
>>>>>>>>> PCs now ('Lenovo') and IBM have become what they always were in
>>>>>>>>> spirit - an 'empty suit' organisation.  Yes, Bill Gates helped
>>>>>>>>> pull the rug under their feet. However they were always destined
>>>>>>>>> for mediocrity. May they RIP ('Rot in Peace').
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OS2/Warp was a superior OS to Windows. It suffered from piss poor
>>>>>>>> marketing by comparison and some shady shit MS pulled. I ran Os/2
>>>>>>>> Warp v4 myself.. it rocked on a 486!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, OS/2 still exists as eComStation. You're free to use IT
>>>>>>> rather than Windows or Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While I loved OS/2 that ship has sailed...   :(
>>>>>
>>>>> I spent my adolescence assuming that OS/2 was going to become a
>>>>> phenomenon.
>>>>
>>>> I took a class in OS/2 presentation manager programming at a local
>>>> community college, right before Windows 3.0 was released.  I believed
>>>> that IBM's API was superior in a lot of ways, and I liked the function
>>>> naming better (object/verb instead of verb/object - so
>>>> 'WindowCreate()'
>>>> for OS/2, 'CreateWindow()' for MS Windows).
>>>>
>>>>> Once Windows 95 came out though, OS/2 was completely forgotten.
>>>>
>>>> yep.  OS/2 couldn't run the new 32-bit windows applications out of the
>>>> box.
>>>>
>>>>> Now, the only thing standing in the way of Microsoft's complete
>>>>> dominance of the x86 and x64 platforms is Linux.
>>>>
>>>> not entirely.  there ARE others, but Linux is the best candidate.
>>>> It's winning the "phone war" (via Android), it's winning the
>>>> 'embedded' war (via busybox and OpenWRT and things like that), and it
>>>> appears to be winning for SLABS as well (e-readers and MeGo and 'droid
>>>> slabs and whatnot).
>>>>
>>>> but yeah, Linux has the best shot at the moment.
>>>>
>>>> Still you can't count out things like 'GhostBSD'...
>>>
>>> Desktop linux has no shot at taking over the desktop.
>>>
>>>
>> and you say that, because... ?
>
> Simple history and trends.  If after 20+ years of getting no traction on
> the desktop, it isn't going to happen now.  And that's because you have
> two competing interests in the linux desktop arena.
>
> Interest #1 is the overall community that loves the plethora of distros
> and UIs.  As a free and open OS with a strong hobbyist/developer
> community behind that thought it is good.  but...
>
> Interest #2 is the vastly smaller part that would like to get some
> commercial success with Linux desktop.  For them the number of distros
> and UIs make having a consistent marketing message nearly impossible to
> do.
>
> Doesn't help that when Canonical made a run at that with a mix of free
> and commercial software the 'community' howled loudly.  Couple that with
> probably the poorest batch of support forums out there and almost no
> actual formal support structure and you have the prescription for failure.

With some of the distros you can purchase support. There are forums for 
support and then you can Google.

> Note that I'm not at all saying that Linux on the desktop isn't
> technically a good OS, just that from a marketing/sales point of view,
> there is no way to make it a commercial success.
>
>
>

The distros that are marketed and some that aren't are successful.


-- 
Caver1

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#320958

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-09-15 13:53 -0500
Message-ID<8ppgvahpr2j3sgcj85uv2jktd3q0vhf05u@4ax.com>
In reply to#320957
> Lying Lloyd wrote:
>>
>> Doesn't help that when Canonical made a run at that with a mix of free
>> and commercial software the 'community' howled loudly

You are a liar, "Lloyd".  The "community" did no such thing.  Most
people welcomed the convenience, and Ubuntu quickly gained popularity.
The purists had viable options, too, so there was no reason for anyone
to be disgruntled.

The only person that I saw complain, in cola, was the "true Linux
advocate" Hadron Quack, a Linux-hater supreme.

You see, "Lloyd", it is things like this that make it so undesirable
for there to be a "unified Linux".  We need to have the ability to
easily switch-away from any distro that "goes off the rails" in any
way that we don't like.

You freedom-hating trolls are too GD *stupid* to understand these
concepts, I know.

-- 
"Until there is a unified Linux for business and comsumers, it will be
relegated to the hobbyist on the desktop."  -  Lying Lloyd

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#320960

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-15 18:59 +0000
Message-ID<d5r83tF8bieU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#320958
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 13:53:56 -0500, chrisv wrote:

>> Lying Lloyd wrote:
>>>
>>> Doesn't help that when Canonical made a run at that with a mix of free
>>> and commercial software the 'community' howled loudly
> 
> You are a liar, "Lloyd".  The "community" did no such thing.  Most
> people welcomed the convenience, and Ubuntu quickly gained popularity.
> The purists had viable options, too, so there was no reason for anyone
> to be disgruntled.
>
Absolute and complete bullshit chris!  There were howls all over the 
place about how they were selling out.
 
> The only person that I saw complain, in cola, was the "true Linux
> advocate" Hadron Quack, a Linux-hater supreme.
> 
> You see, "Lloyd", it is things like this that make it so undesirable for
> there to be a "unified Linux".  We need to have the ability to easily
> switch-away from any distro that "goes off the rails" in any way that we
> don't like.
> 
> You freedom-hating trolls are too GD *stupid* to understand these
> concepts, I know.

With your attitude being the same as the biggest part of the 'linux 
community', you can bet your ass it will NEVER be a commercial success.  
And history tells us that is a statement of fact, not conjecture!

And who is the 'we' exactly?  Me who is actually using linux on a daily 
basis or you who profess to love it but no proof that you actually ever 
have used it.

BTW, it isn't a 'lie' when it is a truth you don't like.



-- 
Lloyd

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#321104

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2015-09-16 10:55 -0400
Message-ID<mtbvqj$fl6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#320958
On 9/15/2015 2:53 PM, shitv wrote:
>> Lying Lloyd wrote:
>>>
>>> Doesn't help that when Canonical made a run at that with a mix of free
>>> and commercial software the 'community' howled loudly
>
> You are a liar, "Lloyd".  The "community" did no such thing.  Most
> people welcomed the convenience, and Ubuntu quickly gained popularity.
> The purists had viable options, too, so there was no reason for anyone
> to be disgruntled.
>
> The only person that I saw complain, in cola, was the "true Linux
> advocate" Hadron Quack, a Linux-hater supreme.
>
> You see, "Lloyd", it is things like this that make it so undesirable
> for there to be a "unified Linux".  We need to have the ability to
> easily switch-away from any distro that "goes off the rails" in any
> way that we don't like.
>
> You freedom-hating trolls are too GD *stupid* to understand these
> concepts, I know.


In the post you made right before this one you advised someone to filter 
Lloyd's "garbage".

Talk about "too GD stupid"... that's you, turd.  Hypocritical, too.

You're a mess.

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#323088

FromNobody <nobody@invalid.com>
Date2015-09-26 14:34 -0500
Message-ID<mu6s10$grf$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#320958
On 09/15/2015 01:53 PM, chrisv wrote:
>> Lying Lloyd wrote:
[...]

> The purists had viable options, too, so there was no reason for anyone
> to be disgruntled.

I'm completely gruntled with Linux.

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#320959

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-15 18:54 +0000
Message-ID<d5r7r5F8bieU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#320957
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 14:22:20 -0400, Caver1 wrote:

> On 09/15/2015 02:11 PM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 11:03:43 -0700, Big Bad Bob wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/15/15 10:34, Lloyd Parsons so wittily quipped:
>>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 10:26:20 -0700, Big Bad Bob wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 09/15/15 05:46, A.M so wittily quipped:
>>>>>> On 2015-09-14 7:55 PM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 19:42:35 -0400, A.M wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2015-09-14 6:51 PM, Diesel wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Jenny Telia <jnytelia@gmail.com> news:mt5sna$heq$1@dont-email.me
>>>>>>>>> Mon, 14 Sep 2015 07:26:01 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 13/09/2015 20:49, Big Bad Bob wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [although I like BSD, it doesn't have the same kinds of
>>>>>>>>>>> support at this time, but may in the future...]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Don't count out IBM.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Haha haaaa...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Are they the geniuses that gave us OS2? The Chinese make their
>>>>>>>>>> PCs now ('Lenovo') and IBM have become what they always were in
>>>>>>>>>> spirit - an 'empty suit' organisation.  Yes, Bill Gates helped
>>>>>>>>>> pull the rug under their feet. However they were always
>>>>>>>>>> destined for mediocrity. May they RIP ('Rot in Peace').
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OS2/Warp was a superior OS to Windows. It suffered from piss
>>>>>>>>> poor marketing by comparison and some shady shit MS pulled. I
>>>>>>>>> ran Os/2 Warp v4 myself.. it rocked on a 486!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, OS/2 still exists as eComStation. You're free to use IT
>>>>>>>> rather than Windows or Linux.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While I loved OS/2 that ship has sailed...   :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I spent my adolescence assuming that OS/2 was going to become a
>>>>>> phenomenon.
>>>>>
>>>>> I took a class in OS/2 presentation manager programming at a local
>>>>> community college, right before Windows 3.0 was released.  I
>>>>> believed that IBM's API was superior in a lot of ways, and I liked
>>>>> the function naming better (object/verb instead of verb/object - so
>>>>> 'WindowCreate()'
>>>>> for OS/2, 'CreateWindow()' for MS Windows).
>>>>>
>>>>>> Once Windows 95 came out though, OS/2 was completely forgotten.
>>>>>
>>>>> yep.  OS/2 couldn't run the new 32-bit windows applications out of
>>>>> the box.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, the only thing standing in the way of Microsoft's complete
>>>>>> dominance of the x86 and x64 platforms is Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> not entirely.  there ARE others, but Linux is the best candidate.
>>>>> It's winning the "phone war" (via Android), it's winning the
>>>>> 'embedded' war (via busybox and OpenWRT and things like that), and
>>>>> it appears to be winning for SLABS as well (e-readers and MeGo and
>>>>> 'droid slabs and whatnot).
>>>>>
>>>>> but yeah, Linux has the best shot at the moment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still you can't count out things like 'GhostBSD'...
>>>>
>>>> Desktop linux has no shot at taking over the desktop.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> and you say that, because... ?
>>
>> Simple history and trends.  If after 20+ years of getting no traction
>> on the desktop, it isn't going to happen now.  And that's because you
>> have two competing interests in the linux desktop arena.
>>
>> Interest #1 is the overall community that loves the plethora of distros
>> and UIs.  As a free and open OS with a strong hobbyist/developer
>> community behind that thought it is good.  but...
>>
>> Interest #2 is the vastly smaller part that would like to get some
>> commercial success with Linux desktop.  For them the number of distros
>> and UIs make having a consistent marketing message nearly impossible to
>> do.
>>
>> Doesn't help that when Canonical made a run at that with a mix of free
>> and commercial software the 'community' howled loudly.  Couple that
>> with probably the poorest batch of support forums out there and almost
>> no actual formal support structure and you have the prescription for
>> failure.
> 
> With some of the distros you can purchase support. There are forums for
> support and then you can Google.
> 
Yes, that is true.  But paid support is not the norm with Linux desktop 
and generally not available except for a very few exceptions.  The forums 
are a mess and unfortunately not well moderated.  Too many really crappy 
replies to help requests makes many just stay away after a very few 
times.  And of course the "doesn't happen to me, must be you" answers are 
all too often given.

And Google support searches are worth exactly what you pay for them.

>> Note that I'm not at all saying that Linux on the desktop isn't
>> technically a good OS, just that from a marketing/sales point of view,
>> there is no way to make it a commercial success.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> The distros that are marketed and some that aren't are successful.

Given a roughly 1.5% desktop market share, none of them are exactly 
successful from a commercial viewpoint.  RedHat probably comes closest.



-- 
Lloyd

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#321281

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-09-17 08:42 -0500
Message-ID<42glva138dmi43pg5ig3uskrko6unc126c@4ax.com>
In reply to#320957
> Lying Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>
>> Doesn't help that when Canonical made a run at that with a mix of free
>> and commercial software the 'community' howled loudly.  Couple that with
>> probably the poorest batch of support forums out there and almost no
>> actual formal support structure and you have the prescription for failure.

Mental midgets like "Lloyd" often fail to understand the important
difference between expressing one's opinion and suppressing other's
freedom.

There is nothing wrong with saying "Canonical sucks and people should
not use their product", just as there is nothing wrong with saying
that "Donald Trump sucks and people should not vote for him".  

Saying such things does not suppress anyone's freedom to choose, or to
vote.

It *would* be wrong to suggest that Canonical be prevented from
offering their product, or that Donald Trump be prevented from running
for president.

-- 
"You still don't understand the drawbacks and realities of a fractured
user base then?"  -  "Hadron", attacking Android (and software
Freedom)

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#321300

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-17 17:10 +0000
Message-ID<d60agqFga3eU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#321281
On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 08:42:20 -0500, chrisv wrote:

>> Lying Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>
>>> Doesn't help that when Canonical made a run at that with a mix of free
>>> and commercial software the 'community' howled loudly.  Couple that
>>> with probably the poorest batch of support forums out there and almost
>>> no actual formal support structure and you have the prescription for
>>> failure.
> 
> Mental midgets like "Lloyd" often fail to understand the important
> difference between expressing one's opinion and suppressing other's
> freedom.
> 
> There is nothing wrong with saying "Canonical sucks and people should
> not use their product", just as there is nothing wrong with saying that
> "Donald Trump sucks and people should not vote for him".
> 
> Saying such things does not suppress anyone's freedom to choose, or to
> vote.
> 
> It *would* be wrong to suggest that Canonical be prevented from offering
> their product, or that Donald Trump be prevented from running for
> president.

I note the chin music which is nearly content free.  IOW, just blathering.



-- 
Lloyd

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