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A return to Ubuntu

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First post2014-05-06 09:00 -0400
Last post2014-05-06 09:57 -0700
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  A return to Ubuntu Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-06 09:00 -0400
    Re: A return to Ubuntu GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-06 09:44 -0600
      Re: A return to Ubuntu Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-06 13:23 -0400
        Re: A return to Ubuntu Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 13:41 -0700
        Re: A return to Ubuntu White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-07 15:23 +0100
          Re: A return to Ubuntu DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-07 10:44 -0400
            Re: A return to Ubuntu Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 12:46 -0400
            Re: A return to Ubuntu Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 10:19 -0700
          Re: A return to Ubuntu Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 12:37 -0400
            Re: A return to Ubuntu Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 09:53 -0700
              Re: A return to Ubuntu Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 13:15 -0700
    Re: A return to Ubuntu Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 09:57 -0700

#242077 — A return to Ubuntu

FromSilver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c>
Date2014-05-06 09:00 -0400
SubjectA return to Ubuntu
Message-ID<lkame7$j2n$1@dont-email.me>
On the weekend, I decided that I was sick and tired of having my 
portable machine consist of a Windows 8 tablet with no USB port and an 
Intel Atom processor and I decided to return to the laptop it replaced. 
Since the SSD I was using in it was since installed in my desktop 
machine for game installation and the original HD died, I decided to buy 
a new WD Black 7200RPM laptop drive with 16MB cache. Little did I know 
that this HD would not allow me to install the machine's recovery disks 
(for God knows what reason) and that installing Windows 7 using the 
product key underneath the machine would result in the OS telling me 
that my battery was incompatible with my laptop, even though it came 
with the machine and had never been disconnected.

I therefore installed Ubuntu 14.04 (in 20 minutes no less) and decided 
that for work, such a machine would suffice. After all, I only wrote a 
few texts, browsed and converted DVDs to MKV (with the intent of showing 
them to students) so I didn't need much.

To my surprise, the distribution has improved somewhat. It feels 
snappier than usual and looks a little more polished. It still detects 
all of my hardware beautifully and allows me to install the proprietary 
NVIDIA driver rather easily if ever I desired it (which I do since the 
Nouveau one seems to crash on wake). As usual, the computer wouldn't 
wake from sleep automatically, so I had to perform the rather 
unintuitive process of inserting acpi_sleep=nonvs into the grub file, 
updating it and restarting. After that, however, the system ran as well 
as my Windows 7 one did.

Obviously, I will never be able to read encrypted Blu-Ray discs within 
Ubuntu but that doesn't matter for now. What's more important to me is 
the fact that my media player of choice, Banshee, seems to do a much 
better job of respecting the file information from my MP3 and M4A files 
than Windows Media Player did. Like the aforementioned, Banshee allows 
me to sync my ratings to the music file (only MP3 for now) but actually 
loads the proper album art from each music file. Windows Media Player 
kept showing a blank image even though I knew full well that each file I 
had included album art and even double-checked with MP3Tag. Score one 
for Banshee.

Funny enough, even the process of installing the drivers for my 
Microsoft Sculpt Bluetooth mouse seemed a lot simpler in Ubuntu than in 
Windows.

Either way, so far so good. I hope nothing bad happens like it did when 
I ran Debian. However, it looks like I have no choice on this particular 
laptop than to use GNU/Linux anyway so I might as well enjoy it.

-- 
Silver Slimer
Wikipedia & OpenMedia Supporter

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#242096

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2014-05-06 09:44 -0600
Message-ID<Ru2dnWfindj7nvTOnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#242077
On 5/6/2014 7:00 AM, Silver Slimer wrote:
> On the weekend, I decided that I was sick and tired of having my
> portable machine consist of a Windows 8 tablet with no USB port and an
> Intel Atom processor and I decided to return to the laptop it replaced.
> Since the SSD I was using in it was since installed in my desktop
> machine for game installation and the original HD died, I decided to buy
> a new WD Black 7200RPM laptop drive with 16MB cache. Little did I know
> that this HD would not allow me to install the machine's recovery disks
> (for God knows what reason) and that installing Windows 7 using the
> product key underneath the machine would result in the OS telling me
> that my battery was incompatible with my laptop, even though it came
> with the machine and had never been disconnected.
> 
> I therefore installed Ubuntu 14.04 (in 20 minutes no less) and decided
> that for work, such a machine would suffice. After all, I only wrote a
> few texts, browsed and converted DVDs to MKV (with the intent of showing
> them to students) so I didn't need much.
> 
> To my surprise, the distribution has improved somewhat. It feels
> snappier than usual and looks a little more polished. It still detects
> all of my hardware beautifully and allows me to install the proprietary
> NVIDIA driver rather easily if ever I desired it (which I do since the
> Nouveau one seems to crash on wake). As usual, the computer wouldn't
> wake from sleep automatically, so I had to perform the rather
> unintuitive process of inserting acpi_sleep=nonvs into the grub file,
> updating it and restarting. After that, however, the system ran as well
> as my Windows 7 one did.
> 
> Obviously, I will never be able to read encrypted Blu-Ray discs within
> Ubuntu but that doesn't matter for now. What's more important to me is
> the fact that my media player of choice, Banshee, seems to do a much
> better job of respecting the file information from my MP3 and M4A files
> than Windows Media Player did. Like the aforementioned, Banshee allows
> me to sync my ratings to the music file (only MP3 for now) but actually
> loads the proper album art from each music file. Windows Media Player
> kept showing a blank image even though I knew full well that each file I
> had included album art and even double-checked with MP3Tag. Score one
> for Banshee.
> 
> Funny enough, even the process of installing the drivers for my
> Microsoft Sculpt Bluetooth mouse seemed a lot simpler in Ubuntu than in
> Windows.
> 
> Either way, so far so good. I hope nothing bad happens like it did when
> I ran Debian. However, it looks like I have no choice on this particular
> laptop than to use GNU/Linux anyway so I might as well enjoy it.
> 

You should have pretty good stability, as it is mentioned as a long term
supported distro.  Getting blu-ray to work?  Get the forums to cough up
with the info because I've seen some talk about it working.
Of course you won't get the answers from the hypocrites here.

Good Luck!


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#242134

FromSilver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c>
Date2014-05-06 13:23 -0400
Message-ID<lkb5re$7ut$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#242096
On 14-05-06 11:44 AM, GreyCloud wrote:
> On 5/6/2014 7:00 AM, Silver Slimer wrote:
>> On the weekend, I decided that I was sick and tired of having my
>> portable machine consist of a Windows 8 tablet with no USB port and an
>> Intel Atom processor and I decided to return to the laptop it replaced.
>> Since the SSD I was using in it was since installed in my desktop
>> machine for game installation and the original HD died, I decided to buy
>> a new WD Black 7200RPM laptop drive with 16MB cache. Little did I know
>> that this HD would not allow me to install the machine's recovery disks
>> (for God knows what reason) and that installing Windows 7 using the
>> product key underneath the machine would result in the OS telling me
>> that my battery was incompatible with my laptop, even though it came
>> with the machine and had never been disconnected.
>>
>> I therefore installed Ubuntu 14.04 (in 20 minutes no less) and decided
>> that for work, such a machine would suffice. After all, I only wrote a
>> few texts, browsed and converted DVDs to MKV (with the intent of showing
>> them to students) so I didn't need much.
>>
>> To my surprise, the distribution has improved somewhat. It feels
>> snappier than usual and looks a little more polished. It still detects
>> all of my hardware beautifully and allows me to install the proprietary
>> NVIDIA driver rather easily if ever I desired it (which I do since the
>> Nouveau one seems to crash on wake). As usual, the computer wouldn't
>> wake from sleep automatically, so I had to perform the rather
>> unintuitive process of inserting acpi_sleep=nonvs into the grub file,
>> updating it and restarting. After that, however, the system ran as well
>> as my Windows 7 one did.
>>
>> Obviously, I will never be able to read encrypted Blu-Ray discs within
>> Ubuntu but that doesn't matter for now. What's more important to me is
>> the fact that my media player of choice, Banshee, seems to do a much
>> better job of respecting the file information from my MP3 and M4A files
>> than Windows Media Player did. Like the aforementioned, Banshee allows
>> me to sync my ratings to the music file (only MP3 for now) but actually
>> loads the proper album art from each music file. Windows Media Player
>> kept showing a blank image even though I knew full well that each file I
>> had included album art and even double-checked with MP3Tag. Score one
>> for Banshee.
>>
>> Funny enough, even the process of installing the drivers for my
>> Microsoft Sculpt Bluetooth mouse seemed a lot simpler in Ubuntu than in
>> Windows.
>>
>> Either way, so far so good. I hope nothing bad happens like it did when
>> I ran Debian. However, it looks like I have no choice on this particular
>> laptop than to use GNU/Linux anyway so I might as well enjoy it.
>>
>
> You should have pretty good stability, as it is mentioned as a long term
> supported distro.  Getting blu-ray to work?  Get the forums to cough up
> with the info because I've seen some talk about it working.
> Of course you won't get the answers from the hypocrites here.
>
> Good Luck!

For Blu-Ray, I was thinking that it might as well be something which 
doesn't work on the laptop. All of the Blu-Rays I have I purchased 
because they were movies I liked. Therefore, I already saw them and 
they're way too inappropriate to show to my students anyway. As a 
result, if they're only used for home exhibition, that's fine by me. 
I'll probably buy a Blu-Ray ripping program and turn them into files a 
few years from now but we'll see.

However, there is a strange bug I found in Ubuntu. If I physically eject 
a DVD from my laptop, it doesn't eject in the OS. This small problem 
prevented me from ripping one DVD after another in Handbrake (until I 
realized it). It's not a big deal since I can just eject the CD icon 
afterwards, but it's a strange thing that the operating system wouldn't 
NOTICE that there's no disc in the drive anymore.

-- 
Silver Slimer
Wikipedia & OpenMedia Supporter

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#242181

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-06 13:41 -0700
Message-ID<950c355c-0627-43a8-874a-ef476f8668b4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#242134
On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 5:23:57 PM UTC, Silver Slimer wrote:
> On 14-05-06 11:44 AM, GreyCloud wrote:
> 
> > On 5/6/2014 7:00 AM, Silver Slimer wrote:
> 
> >> On the weekend, I decided that I was sick and tired of having my
> 
> >> portable machine consist of a Windows 8 tablet with no USB port and an
> 
> >> Intel Atom processor and I decided to return to the laptop it replaced.
> 
> >> Since the SSD I was using in it was since installed in my desktop
> 
> >> machine for game installation and the original HD died, I decided to buy
> 
> >> a new WD Black 7200RPM laptop drive with 16MB cache. Little did I know
> 
> >> that this HD would not allow me to install the machine's recovery disks
> 
> >> (for God knows what reason) and that installing Windows 7 using the
> 
> >> product key underneath the machine would result in the OS telling me
> 
> >> that my battery was incompatible with my laptop, even though it came
> 
> >> with the machine and had never been disconnected.
> 
> >>
> 
> >> I therefore installed Ubuntu 14.04 (in 20 minutes no less) and decided
> 
> >> that for work, such a machine would suffice. After all, I only wrote a
> 
> >> few texts, browsed and converted DVDs to MKV (with the intent of showing
> 
> >> them to students) so I didn't need much.
> 
> >>
> 
> >> To my surprise, the distribution has improved somewhat. It feels
> 
> >> snappier than usual and looks a little more polished. It still detects
> 
> >> all of my hardware beautifully and allows me to install the proprietary
> 
> >> NVIDIA driver rather easily if ever I desired it (which I do since the
> 
> >> Nouveau one seems to crash on wake). As usual, the computer wouldn't
> 
> >> wake from sleep automatically, so I had to perform the rather
> 
> >> unintuitive process of inserting acpi_sleep=nonvs into the grub file,
> 
> >> updating it and restarting. After that, however, the system ran as well
> 
> >> as my Windows 7 one did.
> 
> >>
> 
> >> Obviously, I will never be able to read encrypted Blu-Ray discs within
> 
> >> Ubuntu but that doesn't matter for now. What's more important to me is
> 
> >> the fact that my media player of choice, Banshee, seems to do a much
> 
> >> better job of respecting the file information from my MP3 and M4A files
> 
> >> than Windows Media Player did. Like the aforementioned, Banshee allows
> 
> >> me to sync my ratings to the music file (only MP3 for now) but actually
> 
> >> loads the proper album art from each music file. Windows Media Player
> 
> >> kept showing a blank image even though I knew full well that each file I
> 
> >> had included album art and even double-checked with MP3Tag. Score one
> 
> >> for Banshee.
> 
> >>
> 
> >> Funny enough, even the process of installing the drivers for my
> 
> >> Microsoft Sculpt Bluetooth mouse seemed a lot simpler in Ubuntu than in
> 
> >> Windows.
> 
> >>
> 
> >> Either way, so far so good. I hope nothing bad happens like it did when
> 
> >> I ran Debian. However, it looks like I have no choice on this particular
> 
> >> laptop than to use GNU/Linux anyway so I might as well enjoy it.
> 
> >>
> 
> >
> 
> > You should have pretty good stability, as it is mentioned as a long term
> 
> > supported distro.  Getting blu-ray to work?  Get the forums to cough up
> 
> > with the info because I've seen some talk about it working.
> 
> > Of course you won't get the answers from the hypocrites here.
> 
> >
> 
> > Good Luck!
> 
> 
> 
> For Blu-Ray, I was thinking that it might as well be something which 
> 
> doesn't work on the laptop. All of the Blu-Rays I have I purchased 
> 
> because they were movies I liked. Therefore, I already saw them and 
> 
> they're way too inappropriate to show to my students anyway. As a 
> 
> result, if they're only used for home exhibition, that's fine by me. 
> 
> I'll probably buy a Blu-Ray ripping program and turn them into files a 
> 
> few years from now but we'll see.
> 
> 
> 
> However, there is a strange bug I found in Ubuntu. If I physically eject 
> 
> a DVD from my laptop, it doesn't eject in the OS. This small problem 
> 
> prevented me from ripping one DVD after another in Handbrake (until I 
> 
> realized it). It's not a big deal since I can just eject the CD icon 
> 
> afterwards, but it's a strange thing that the operating system wouldn't 
> 
> NOTICE that there's no disc in the drive anymore.

Cue Snit jumping in claiming if you can not quote an error message you must be lying.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Silver Slimer
> 
> Wikipedia & OpenMedia Supporter

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#242318

FromWhite Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk>
Date2014-05-07 15:23 +0100
Message-ID<bsutumFfe5eU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#242134
On 06/05/2014 18:23, Silver Slimer wrote:

> However, there is a strange bug I found in Ubuntu. If I physically eject
> a DVD from my laptop, it doesn't eject in the OS. This small problem
> prevented me from ripping one DVD after another in Handbrake (until I
> realized it). It's not a big deal since I can just eject the CD icon
> afterwards, but it's a strange thing that the operating system wouldn't
> NOTICE that there's no disc in the drive anymore.

I have recently had the same issue with openSuse.  It looks like an 
issue with udev/udisks2:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1168742

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#242322

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2014-05-07 10:44 -0400
Message-ID<lkdgs0$ub$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#242318
On 5/7/2014 10:23 AM, White Spirit wrote:
> On 06/05/2014 18:23, Silver Slimer wrote:
>
>> However, there is a strange bug I found in Ubuntu. If I physically eject
>> a DVD from my laptop, it doesn't eject in the OS. This small problem
>> prevented me from ripping one DVD after another in Handbrake (until I
>> realized it). It's not a big deal since I can just eject the CD icon
>> afterwards, but it's a strange thing that the operating system wouldn't
>> NOTICE that there's no disc in the drive anymore.
>
> I have recently had the same issue with openSuse.  It looks like an
> issue with udev/udisks2:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1168742


"We care that Ubuntu is secure, reliable and predictable. We deliver 
updates to Ubuntu that are rigorously tested."

blah blah blah ... tested my ass


https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand

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#242364

FromSilver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c>
Date2014-05-07 12:46 -0400
Message-ID<lkdo1j$r05$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#242322
On 14-05-07 10:44 AM, DFS wrote:
> On 5/7/2014 10:23 AM, White Spirit wrote:
>> On 06/05/2014 18:23, Silver Slimer wrote:
>>
>>> However, there is a strange bug I found in Ubuntu. If I physically eject
>>> a DVD from my laptop, it doesn't eject in the OS. This small problem
>>> prevented me from ripping one DVD after another in Handbrake (until I
>>> realized it). It's not a big deal since I can just eject the CD icon
>>> afterwards, but it's a strange thing that the operating system wouldn't
>>> NOTICE that there's no disc in the drive anymore.
>>
>> I have recently had the same issue with openSuse.  It looks like an
>> issue with udev/udisks2:
>>
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1168742
>
>
> "We care that Ubuntu is secure, reliable and predictable. We deliver
> updates to Ubuntu that are rigorously tested."
>
> blah blah blah ... tested my ass
>
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brand

This isn't an update though and to be honest, I can see how easily they 
could have overlooked something so minor. It truly isn't noticeable as 
an issue UNLESS you need to view the contents of a series of media.

-- 
Silver Slimer
Wikipedia & OpenMedia Supporter

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#242378

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-07 10:19 -0700
Message-ID<c8bd62ab-cb4b-42e9-bd24-52c94ed0ea83@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#242322
On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 8:44:16 AM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
> On 5/7/2014 10:23 AM, White Spirit wrote:
> 
> > On 06/05/2014 18:23, Silver Slimer wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> >> However, there is a strange bug I found in Ubuntu. If I physically eject
> 
> >> a DVD from my laptop, it doesn't eject in the OS. This small problem
> 
> >> prevented me from ripping one DVD after another in Handbrake (until I
> 
> >> realized it). It's not a big deal since I can just eject the CD icon
> 
> >> afterwards, but it's a strange thing that the operating system wouldn't
> 
> >> NOTICE that there's no disc in the drive anymore.
> 
> >
> 
> > I have recently had the same issue with openSuse.  It looks like an
> 
> > issue with udev/udisks2:
> 
> >
> 
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1168742
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "We care that Ubuntu is secure, reliable and predictable. We deliver 
> 
> updates to Ubuntu that are rigorously tested."
> 
> 
> 
> blah blah blah ... tested my ass

It's almost as funny as trying to claim Windows hasn't been hacked to the tune of trillions of dollars, huh? ;)

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#242361

FromSilver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c>
Date2014-05-07 12:37 -0400
Message-ID<lkdngo$ms1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#242318
On 14-05-07 10:23 AM, White Spirit wrote:
> On 06/05/2014 18:23, Silver Slimer wrote:
>
>> However, there is a strange bug I found in Ubuntu. If I physically eject
>> a DVD from my laptop, it doesn't eject in the OS. This small problem
>> prevented me from ripping one DVD after another in Handbrake (until I
>> realized it). It's not a big deal since I can just eject the CD icon
>> afterwards, but it's a strange thing that the operating system wouldn't
>> NOTICE that there's no disc in the drive anymore.
>
> I have recently had the same issue with openSuse.  It looks like an
> issue with udev/udisks2:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1168742

It's not a terrible bug by any means but I guess it's just a matter of 
time before Snatch the Clown calls on the world to boycott GNU/Linux 
entirely as a result of it. It just forces me to eject media the OS X 
way which is not my preferred method but whatever. Other than that 
though, I can't help but notice that I enjoy using my computer a lot 
more with Ubuntu installed than I did with Windows 7. This is a purely 
subjective thing but I just love Unity.

-- 
Silver Slimer
Wikipedia & OpenMedia Supporter

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#242368

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2014-05-07 09:53 -0700
Message-ID<CF8FB30A.36AC8%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#242361
On 5/7/14, 9:37 AM, in article lkdngo$ms1$1@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
<slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote:

> On 14-05-07 10:23 AM, White Spirit wrote:
>> On 06/05/2014 18:23, Silver Slimer wrote:
>> 
>>> However, there is a strange bug I found in Ubuntu. If I physically eject
>>> a DVD from my laptop, it doesn't eject in the OS. This small problem
>>> prevented me from ripping one DVD after another in Handbrake (until I
>>> realized it). It's not a big deal since I can just eject the CD icon
>>> afterwards, but it's a strange thing that the operating system wouldn't
>>> NOTICE that there's no disc in the drive anymore.
>> 
>> I have recently had the same issue with openSuse.  It looks like an
>> issue with udev/udisks2:
>> 
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1168742
> 
> It's not a terrible bug by any means but I guess it's just a matter of
> time before Snatch the Clown calls on the world to boycott GNU/Linux
> entirely as a result of it.

This shows how little you understand of me. I support desktop Linux as a
choice and am happy it exists - I just wish it competed better. Boycotting
it would be completely against my views and wishes.

> It just forces me to eject media the OS X way which is not my preferred method
> but whatever. 

I think OS X handles this poorly. It is a shame given that the first example
of the "modern" way most OSs handle this was, I think, the Apple IIgs with
its floppy drive. You could eject it from the OS *or* the button on the
drive - as you can with Windows and Linux now. OS X does not work like this
even with third party drives that have a button. To me that is just wrong.

> Other than that though, I can't help but notice that I enjoy
> using my computer a lot more with Ubuntu installed than I did with Windows 7.

Good for you. Use what you like.

> This is a purely subjective thing but I just love Unity.

Curious: what things do you like about it?

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#242428

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-07 13:15 -0700
Message-ID<cbe803f3-5088-4a0e-82ed-ddd0447ac9b8@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#242368
On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 4:53:14 PM UTC, Snit wrote:
> On 5/7/14, 9:37 AM, in article lkdngo$ms1$1@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer"
> 
> <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > On 14-05-07 10:23 AM, White Spirit wrote:
> 
> >> On 06/05/2014 18:23, Silver Slimer wrote:
> 
> >> 
> 
> >>> However, there is a strange bug I found in Ubuntu. If I physically eject
> 
> >>> a DVD from my laptop, it doesn't eject in the OS. This small problem
> 
> >>> prevented me from ripping one DVD after another in Handbrake (until I
> 
> >>> realized it). It's not a big deal since I can just eject the CD icon
> 
> >>> afterwards, but it's a strange thing that the operating system wouldn't
> 
> >>> NOTICE that there's no disc in the drive anymore.
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> I have recently had the same issue with openSuse.  It looks like an
> 
> >> issue with udev/udisks2:
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1168742
> 
> > 
> 
> > It's not a terrible bug by any means but I guess it's just a matter of
> 
> > time before Snatch the Clown calls on the world to boycott GNU/Linux
> 
> > entirely as a result of it.
> 
> 
> 
> This shows how little you understand of me. I support desktop Linux as a
> 
> choice and am happy it exists - I just wish it competed better. Boycotting
> 
> it would be completely against my views and wishes.
> 
> 
> 
> > It just forces me to eject media the OS X way which is not my preferred method
> 
> > but whatever. 
> 
> 
> 
> I think OS X handles this poorly. It is a shame given that the first example
> 
> of the "modern" way most OSs handle this was, I think, the Apple IIgs with
> 
> its floppy drive. You could eject it from the OS *or* the button on the
> 
> drive - as you can with Windows and Linux now. OS X does not work like this
> 
> even with third party drives that have a button. To me that is just wrong.

You claim to not read my posts but every time I note how you never speak poorly of Apple you make up some minor bogus claim. I love to watch it.
> 
> > Other than that though, I can't help but notice that I enjoy
> 
> > using my computer a lot more with Ubuntu installed than I did with Windows 7.
> 
> 
> 
> Good for you. Use what you like.

I use revenge to piss you off. I like it!

> > This is a purely subjective thing but I just love Unity.
> 
> 
> 
> Curious: what things do you like about it?
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> * Mint MATE: Trash, Panel, Menu:    <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
> 
> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
> 
> * Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
> 
> * Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
> 
> * Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
> 
> * Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
> 
> * Mint / LibreOffice:               <http://youtu.be/USU9iqppfto>
> 
> * Win 8 / Word 2013:                <http://youtu.be/z8gUL2TCcV4>
> 
> * Mavericks / Pages 5.1:            <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>

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FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-06 09:57 -0700
Message-ID<075c5247-8ab4-4752-8f71-789db98faf38@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#242077
On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 1:00:54 PM UTC, Silver Slimer wrote:
> On the weekend, I decided that I was sick and tired of having my 
> 
> portable machine consist of a Windows 8 tablet with no USB port and an 
> 
> Intel Atom processor and I decided to return to the laptop it replaced. 
> 
> Since the SSD I was using in it was since installed in my desktop 
> 
> machine for game installation and the original HD died, I decided to buy 
> 
> a new WD Black 7200RPM laptop drive with 16MB cache. Little did I know 
> 
> that this HD would not allow me to install the machine's recovery disks 
> 
> (for God knows what reason) and that installing Windows 7 using the 
> 
> product key underneath the machine would result in the OS telling me 
> 
> that my battery was incompatible with my laptop, even though it came 
> 
> with the machine and had never been disconnected.
> 
> 
> 
> I therefore installed Ubuntu 14.04 (in 20 minutes no less) and decided 
> 
> that for work, such a machine would suffice. After all, I only wrote a 
> 
> few texts, browsed and converted DVDs to MKV (with the intent of showing 
> 
> them to students) so I didn't need much.
> 
> 
> 
> To my surprise, the distribution has improved somewhat. It feels 
> 
> snappier than usual and looks a little more polished. It still detects 
> 
> all of my hardware beautifully and allows me to install the proprietary 
> 
> NVIDIA driver rather easily if ever I desired it (which I do since the 
> 
> Nouveau one seems to crash on wake). As usual, the computer wouldn't 
> 
> wake from sleep automatically, so I had to perform the rather 
> 
> unintuitive process of inserting acpi_sleep=nonvs into the grub file, 
> 
> updating it and restarting. After that, however, the system ran as well 
> 
> as my Windows 7 one did.
> 
> 
> 
> Obviously, I will never be able to read encrypted Blu-Ray discs within 
> 
> Ubuntu but that doesn't matter for now. What's more important to me is 
> 
> the fact that my media player of choice, Banshee, seems to do a much 
> 
> better job of respecting the file information from my MP3 and M4A files 
> 
> than Windows Media Player did. Like the aforementioned, Banshee allows 
> 
> me to sync my ratings to the music file (only MP3 for now) but actually 
> 
> loads the proper album art from each music file. Windows Media Player 
> 
> kept showing a blank image even though I knew full well that each file I 
> 
> had included album art and even double-checked with MP3Tag. Score one 
> 
> for Banshee.
> 
> 
> 
> Funny enough, even the process of installing the drivers for my 
> 
> Microsoft Sculpt Bluetooth mouse seemed a lot simpler in Ubuntu than in 
> 
> Windows.
> 
> 
> 
> Either way, so far so good. I hope nothing bad happens like it did when 
> 
> I ran Debian. However, it looks like I have no choice on this particular 
> 
> laptop than to use GNU/Linux anyway so I might as well enjoy it.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Silver Slimer
> 
> Wikipedia & OpenMedia Supporter

Now that you no longer are believing Snit's crap suddenly Linux looks a lot better. Amazing how that works.


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