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  Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. Donald Miller <donaldmiller955@mail.com> - 2015-03-28 18:55 -0400
    Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-28 19:15 -0400
      Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-03-28 19:27 -0400
        Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-28 20:32 -0400
        Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 20:26 -0700
    Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-29 00:19 +0100
      "More Nails in the Linux Coffin?"  They've been crying that for years! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-28 19:43 -0400
      Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-03-28 23:43 +0000
        Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-28 23:54 +0000
          Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 17:00 -0700
        Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-28 22:23 -0400
      Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-28 22:26 -0400
      Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-29 14:47 +0000
        Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 15:03 +0000
          Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 04:17 +0000
            Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 04:36 +0000
              Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 04:37 +0000
                Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 04:54 +0000
                Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-03-30 09:10 +0100
                  Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-30 06:03 -0400
                    Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-30 13:39 -0400
                  Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 15:52 +0000
                    Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 12:49 -0400
                      Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-30 13:49 -0400
                    Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-30 13:47 -0400
                      Re: Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:32 -0600

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#286496 — Microsoft To Buy Cyanogen? Windows 10 Secure Boot? More Nails in the Linux Coffin.

Desktop Linux is pretty well on it's way to self extermination anyway
but Windows 10 Secure Boot Lock Out is going to pound a few more nails
in the already rotten and putrid smelling Linux coffin.

Then there is the speculation that Microsoft might by purchasing a
controlling interest in Cyanogen in order to stomp on Android.
That one might actually cause some serious damage because anyone who
has used an Android device knows they are extremely buggy and that
Cyanogen is one method for resolving that buggy behavior.

Hopefully Microsoft, a company who actually develops software people
are interested in using, will be able to finally sink Linux right into
the ground where it belongs. 



http://techrights.org/2015/03/28/microsoft-role-in-cyanogen/

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windows-10-to-make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/

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#286499

On 2015-03-28 6:55 PM, Donald Miller wrote:
> Desktop Linux is pretty well on it's way to self extermination anyway
> but Windows 10 Secure Boot Lock Out is going to pound a few more nails
> in the already rotten and putrid smelling Linux coffin.

I actually don't want to see Linux disappear as it's a commendable 
effort, but if it continues to be tied to repulsive idiots like 
clitorisv or Peter Klöwnmann, Microsoft is essentially doing the whole 
world a favour by eliminating it entirely.

> Then there is the speculation that Microsoft might by purchasing a
> controlling interest in Cyanogen in order to stomp on Android.
> That one might actually cause some serious damage because anyone who
> has used an Android device knows they are extremely buggy and that
> Cyanogen is one method for resolving that buggy behavior.

I have trouble believing that replacing a buggy Linux distribution with 
another buggy Linux distribution will eliminate the bugs.

> Hopefully Microsoft, a company who actually develops software people
> are interested in using, will be able to finally sink Linux right into
> the ground where it belongs.

Or into the hole Wretched Stallman crawls into every night to sleep.

> http://techrights.org/2015/03/28/microsoft-role-in-cyanogen/
>
> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windows-10-to-make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/

If one of your sources is techrights.org, the chances are that you've 
read nothing but absolutely bullshit anyway.

-- 
Slimer
OpenMedia, GreenPeace Supporter & SPCA Paw Partner
Encrypt.

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#286502

On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 19:15:31 -0400, Slimer wrote:

> On 2015-03-28 6:55 PM, Donald Miller wrote:
>> Desktop Linux is pretty well on it's way to self extermination anyway
>> but Windows 10 Secure Boot Lock Out is going to pound a few more nails
>> in the already rotten and putrid smelling Linux coffin.
> 
> I actually don't want to see Linux disappear as it's a commendable 
> effort, but if it continues to be tied to repulsive idiots like 
> clitorisv or Peter Klöwnmann, Microsoft is essentially doing the whole 
> world a favour by eliminating it entirely.

Competition is good because it encourages those involved to raise the
bar which means better products for the consumer.
If Android or Windows wasn't competing directly with Apple I doubt
they would have done as well as they have.
I do not support anything that locks me out of my own hardware.
I run Windows and I also run Linux and I want to continue doing that. 
I don't believe Microsoft is doing this to kill Linux as much as they
are trying to lock down security in their own operating system.
However I am 100 percent against it unless there is a legal way
around it. I suspect the lawyers will be involved and it will
ultimately be able to be disabled after agreeing to a "at your own
risk" dialog box. I'm ok with that if it's the only solution. 
 
>> Then there is the speculation that Microsoft might by purchasing a
>> controlling interest in Cyanogen in order to stomp on Android.
>> That one might actually cause some serious damage because anyone who
>> has used an Android device knows they are extremely buggy and that
>> Cyanogen is one method for resolving that buggy behavior.
> 
> I have trouble believing that replacing a buggy Linux distribution with 
> another buggy Linux distribution will eliminate the bugs.

They both suck.
I use an iPhone 6 and it is a fantastic piece of kit.
I had one Android phone and will never buy another one because it
sucked so bad. It was an HTC something or other.
I got no support from ATT, very few updates and such.
My iPhone 6 has already been updated 2 or 3 times since I've owned
it.
It's not perfect but it's miles ahead of Android phones.
Just read the forums to see for yourself.

>> Hopefully Microsoft, a company who actually develops software people
>> are interested in using, will be able to finally sink Linux right into
>> the ground where it belongs.
> 
> Or into the hole Wretched Stallman crawls into every night to sleep.

He is sickening.
 
>> http://techrights.org/2015/03/28/microsoft-role-in-cyanogen/
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windows-10-to-make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/
> 
> If one of your sources is techrights.org, the chances are that you've 
> read nothing but absolutely bullshit anyway.

That website is so bad I can barely navigate it.
I click on the article title and the link changes but I still see the
same page instead of a dedicated page with just that article on it.
It's like the webmaster wants the viewer to wander around the site to
locate things. I don't have that much time.
Awful site.

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#286518

On 2015-03-28 7:27 PM, Tomas wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 19:15:31 -0400, Slimer wrote:
>
>> On 2015-03-28 6:55 PM, Donald Miller wrote:
>>> Desktop Linux is pretty well on it's way to self extermination anyway
>>> but Windows 10 Secure Boot Lock Out is going to pound a few more nails
>>> in the already rotten and putrid smelling Linux coffin.
>>
>> I actually don't want to see Linux disappear as it's a commendable
>> effort, but if it continues to be tied to repulsive idiots like
>> clitorisv or Peter Klöwnmann, Microsoft is essentially doing the whole
>> world a favour by eliminating it entirely.
>
> Competition is good because it encourages those involved to raise the
> bar which means better products for the consumer.
> If Android or Windows wasn't competing directly with Apple I doubt
> they would have done as well as they have.

Are you referring to Apple or Windows/Android? I get the impression that 
we would have seen the same innovation from Apple regardless of whether 
they were competing with anyone or not. Their products would simply cost 
more.

> I do not support anything that locks me out of my own hardware.
> I run Windows and I also run Linux and I want to continue doing that.
> I don't believe Microsoft is doing this to kill Linux as much as they
> are trying to lock down security in their own operating system.
> However I am 100 percent against it unless there is a legal way
> around it. I suspect the lawyers will be involved and it will
> ultimately be able to be disabled after agreeing to a "at your own
> risk" dialog box. I'm ok with that if it's the only solution.

Microsoft's move toward the modern interface in Windows seemed to be one 
made for security reasons as well. After all, the applications of that 
interface are sand-boxed and if one turned out to be problematic, 
removing it would remove the problem as well.

>>> Then there is the speculation that Microsoft might by purchasing a
>>> controlling interest in Cyanogen in order to stomp on Android.
>>> That one might actually cause some serious damage because anyone who
>>> has used an Android device knows they are extremely buggy and that
>>> Cyanogen is one method for resolving that buggy behavior.
>>
>> I have trouble believing that replacing a buggy Linux distribution with
>> another buggy Linux distribution will eliminate the bugs.
>
> They both suck.
> I use an iPhone 6 and it is a fantastic piece of kit.
> I had one Android phone and will never buy another one because it
> sucked so bad. It was an HTC something or other.
> I got no support from ATT, very few updates and such.
> My iPhone 6 has already been updated 2 or 3 times since I've owned
> it.
> It's not perfect but it's miles ahead of Android phones.
> Just read the forums to see for yourself.

The same way Linux losers fool themselves into believing that Linux is 
ahead of Windows, Android losers fool themselves into believing that the 
operating system and hardware is ahead of iOS and iPhones.

>>> Hopefully Microsoft, a company who actually develops software people
>>> are interested in using, will be able to finally sink Linux right into
>>> the ground where it belongs.
>>
>> Or into the hole Wretched Stallman crawls into every night to sleep.
>
> He is sickening.
>
>>> http://techrights.org/2015/03/28/microsoft-role-in-cyanogen/
>>>
>>> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windows-10-to-make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/
>>
>> If one of your sources is techrights.org, the chances are that you've
>> read nothing but absolutely bullshit anyway.
>
> That website is so bad I can barely navigate it.
> I click on the article title and the link changes but I still see the
> same page instead of a dedicated page with just that article on it.
> It's like the webmaster wants the viewer to wander around the site to
> locate things. I don't have that much time.
> Awful site.

I can't stand the site either. Schestowitz seems to be more obsessed 
with promoting himself than providing any kind of information. There's 
photos of him everywhere whereas any legitimate news site barely ever 
shows photos of the journalists. The information is more important than 
the author.


-- 
Slimer
OpenMedia, GreenPeace Supporter & SPCA Paw Partner
Encrypt.

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#286550

On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 5:27:50 PM UTC-6, Tomas wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 19:15:31 -0400, Slimer wrote:
> 
> > On 2015-03-28 6:55 PM, Donald Miller wrote:
> >> Desktop Linux is pretty well on it's way to self extermination anyway
> >> but Windows 10 Secure Boot Lock Out is going to pound a few more nails
> >> in the already rotten and putrid smelling Linux coffin.
> > 
> > I actually don't want to see Linux disappear as it's a commendable 
> > effort, but if it continues to be tied to repulsive idiots like 
> > clitorisv or Peter Klöwnmann, Microsoft is essentially doing the whole 
> > world a favour by eliminating it entirely.
> 
> Competition is good because it encourages those involved to raise the
> bar which means better products for the consumer.
> If Android or Windows wasn't competing directly with Apple I doubt
> they would have done as well as they have.
> I do not support anything that locks me out of my own hardware.
> I run Windows and I also run Linux and I want to continue doing that. 
> I don't believe Microsoft is doing this to kill Linux as much as they
> are trying to lock down security in their own operating system.
> However I am 100 percent against it unless there is a legal way
> around it. I suspect the lawyers will be involved and it will
> ultimately be able to be disabled after agreeing to a "at your own
> risk" dialog box. I'm ok with that if it's the only solution. 
>  
> >> Then there is the speculation that Microsoft might by purchasing a
> >> controlling interest in Cyanogen in order to stomp on Android.
> >> That one might actually cause some serious damage because anyone who
> >> has used an Android device knows they are extremely buggy and that
> >> Cyanogen is one method for resolving that buggy behavior.
> > 
> > I have trouble believing that replacing a buggy Linux distribution with 
> > another buggy Linux distribution will eliminate the bugs.
> 
> They both suck.
> I use an iPhone 6 and it is a fantastic piece of kit.
> I had one Android phone and will never buy another one because it
> sucked so bad. It was an HTC something or other.
> I got no support from ATT, very few updates and such.
> My iPhone 6 has already been updated 2 or 3 times since I've owned
> it.
> It's not perfect but it's miles ahead of Android phones.
> Just read the forums to see for yourself.
> 
> >> Hopefully Microsoft, a company who actually develops software people
> >> are interested in using, will be able to finally sink Linux right into
> >> the ground where it belongs.
> > 
> > Or into the hole Wretched Stallman crawls into every night to sleep.
> 
> He is sickening.
>  
> >> http://techrights.org/2015/03/28/microsoft-role-in-cyanogen/
> >>
> >> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windows-10-to-make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/
> > 
> > If one of your sources is techrights.org, the chances are that you've 
> > read nothing but absolutely bullshit anyway.
> 
> That website is so bad I can barely navigate it.
> I click on the article title and the link changes but I still see the
> same page instead of a dedicated page with just that article on it.

That happens because that URL is actually pointing to a single Wordpress post, not a page, and the post title is clickable (it should't be).

#########################
         Tech crap alert! 
#########################


Only read below here if you're interested in basic web templating on Wordpress

This issue is often caused by people that are copying and pasting template code (*see below) without really thinking about what they're doing with it. You don't want the title clickable on a single post template because you're *already* in single post view so it makes no sense. It's stupid but it's a very easy fix (take about 5 seconds).

IMO the thing that's worse here is the "What Else is New" section appended to the bottom of this template. Why grab all that crap every time the reader wants to read a single post?! 

Doing so just slows things down for no good reason and it essentially defeats the purpose of even having a single post view. If readers actually bothered to comment on a post that was already pretty long, followed by the "What Else is New" section and *then* followed by comments... well, it could get sorta ridiculous if there is no facility to deal with all the content (and he doesn't have that facility). Here's an example of what I mean... and this is without comments:

http://techrights.org/2015/03/28/european-commission-foss/

> It's like the webmaster wants the viewer to wander around the site to
> locate things. I don't have that much time.
> Awful site.

It's using an old theme that has been bastardized. It actually used to be a wordpress.com theme but they retired it years ago:

https://theme.wordpress.com/retired/ocadia/

It still can be had on their site (automattic)  but I don't recommend it ;)

https://wpcom-themes.svn.automattic.com/ocadia/

When you look at the single post view template...

https://wpcom-themes.svn.automattic.com/ocadia/single.php

...you can see that there's no anchor tag around the title, its just an h2 tag:

<h2 id="post-<?php the_ID(); ?>" class="storytitle"><?php the_title(); ?></h2>

Here's an example of a similar instance off the techrights site, you can see the anchor tag has been added in:

<h2 id="post-82164" class="storytitle">
<a rel="bookmark" href="http://techrights.org/2015/03/28/european-commission-foss/" nicetitle="Permanent link to Links 28/3/2015: FoundationDB FOSS Shut Down by Apple, European Commission Support for Free Software">Links 28/3/2015: FoundationDB FOSS Shut Down by Apple, European Commission Support for Free Software</a>
</h2>

* Most likely it was just copied and pasted from the post view, which shows multiple posts (hopefully summaries) simultaneously and the titles are clickable so you can then go to the full story if you wish. Notice how different it *isn't* from the above:

<h2 id="post-82138" class="storytitle">
<a rel="bookmark" href="http://techrights.org/2015/03/26/cyanogen-and-other-pawns/" nicetitle="Permanent link to Microsoft Won't Let People Wipe (Off) Windows But Happily Wipes Android, Wipes Android Apps Through Cyanogen and Blackmailed 'Partners'">Microsoft Won't Let People Wipe (Off) Windows But Happily Wipes Android, Wipes Android Apps Through Cyanogen and Blackmailed 'Partners'</a>
</h2>

That markup came off a post's title link on this page: 

http://techrights.org/category/google/

Looks like an errant copy and paste job. Were it me, while I was in there I'd remove that "What Else is New" section and maybe even create a different, smaller, sidebar area for single post views (if I even had one at all). 

Worse, there are archives going back to 2006 in the sidebar! Why? Put that stuff on a dedicated archive page... what you don't do is make every page of your site pay for you *not* doing something as sensible as this. A potential reason why the sidebar is this long is because a theme has sidebar widgets coded in as the default and the person running it may not know they can take widgets out as well as add them. That's a stretch but I've seen things like it before.

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#286500

On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 18:55:06 -0400
Donald Miller <donaldmiller955@mail.com> wrote:

> Desktop Linux is pretty well on it's way to self extermination anyway
> but Windows 10 Secure Boot Lock Out is going to pound a few more nails
> in the already rotten and putrid smelling Linux coffin.
> 
> Then there is the speculation that Microsoft might by purchasing a
> controlling interest in Cyanogen in order to stomp on Android.
> That one might actually cause some serious damage because anyone who
> has used an Android device knows they are extremely buggy and that
> Cyanogen is one method for resolving that buggy behavior.
> 
> Hopefully Microsoft, a company who actually develops software people
> are interested in using, will be able to finally sink Linux right into
> the ground where it belongs. 
> 
> 
> 
> http://techrights.org/2015/03/28/microsoft-role-in-cyanogen/
> 
> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windows-10-to-make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/

I am really starting to hate Microsoft...

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#286509 — "More Nails in the Linux Coffin?" They've been crying that for years!

Melzzzzz wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 18:55:06 -0400
> Donald Miller The Chimp <donaldmiller955@mail.com> wrote:
>
>> Desktop Linux is pretty well on it's way to self extermination anyway
>> but Windows 10 Secure Boot Lock Out is going to pound a few more nails
>> in the already rotten and putrid smelling Linux coffin.

Blah blah blah.  I remember when the trolls were proclaiming
Windows XP <laughing> "The Linux Killer" LOL.

Same old story, year after years, from the dazed followers of
Microsoft.

And yet Linux is top dog in supercomputers, top dog in Web servers,
giving Microsoft good competition in general servers and in embedded devices
(so much so that Microsoft feels they must offer a free Windows 10 embedded
to counter that threat), absolutely kicking Microsoft's ass in
mobile, and even making Microsoft feel a little prickly in the desktop
market.

>> Then there is the speculation that Microsoft might by purchasing a
>> controlling interest in Cyanogen in order to stomp on Android.
>> That one might actually cause some serious damage because anyone who
>> has used an Android device knows they are extremely buggy and that
>> Cyanogen is one method for resolving that buggy behavior.

Wrong.

Cyanogen was simply a way (and only one way) to replace the stock Android
installation in some Android devices to get rid of the crap that the
hardware vendor or the telecomm company installed.

>> <rest of stupid shit snipped>
>> 
>> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windows-10-to-make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/
>
> I am really starting to hate Microsoft...

Well, the more Microsoft tightens its grip, the more the rebel alliance
slips though its fingers.  That move might actually encourage vendors to
ship more non-Windows machines, akin to the Chromebooks that some of them
ship.

If not, well, currently the "Linux" "market" serves mainly tech-savvy users,
and it can continue to do so.

Things are actually looking a lot more positive than they were years back.

None of Microsoft's self-serving and despicable machinations have been able
to forestall Linux penetration into almost all computing markets where
tech-savvy users are able to make the decisions.

They still haven't tried the one thing I fear most... making Free Software
illegal.

-- 
All who joy would win Must share it --
Happiness was born a twin.
		-- Lord Byron

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#286511

It was reported that Melzzzzz posted:

> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 18:55:06 -0400
> Donald Miller <donaldmiller955@mail.com> wrote:


>> Hopefully Microsoft, a rotten and putrid smelling company, 
>> a company who actually develops " low-quality goods"
>> will finally sink right into the ground where it belongs. 

I hace corrected the trolling fuckwit's sentence. :-)

> I am really starting to hate Microsoft...

Only just starting?

"Microsoft has vast resources, literally billions of dollars in cash, or liquid assets reserves. 
Microsoft is an incredibly successful empire built on the premise of market dominance with low-quality goods." 
-- Former White House adviser Richard A. Clarke --

-- 
openSUSE 13.2 64-bit
KDE 4.14.6
Kernel: 3.19.1-2.1.desktop x86_64 GNU/Linux 2015-3-10

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#286514

William Poaster <wp@dev.null> wrote:
> It was reported that Melzzzzz posted:

>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 18:55:06 -0400
>> Donald Miller <donaldmiller955@mail.com> wrote:


>>> Hopefully Microsoft, a rotten and putrid smelling company, 
>>> a company who actually develops " low-quality goods"
>>> will finally sink right into the ground where it belongs. 

> I hace corrected the trolling fuckwit's sentence. :-)

Are you sure you're qualified to correct someone else's sentence?

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#286515

On Saturday, March 28, 2015 at 5:54:40 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
> William Poaster <wp@dev.null> wrote:
> > It was reported that Melzzzzz posted:
> 
> >> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 18:55:06 -0400
> >> Donald Miller <donaldmiller955@mail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> >>> Hopefully Microsoft, a rotten and putrid smelling company, 
> >>> a company who actually develops " low-quality goods"
> >>> will finally sink right into the ground where it belongs. 
> 
> > I hace corrected the trolling fuckwit's sentence. :-)
> 
> Are you sure you're qualified to correct someone else's sentence?

Apparently not if he sticks to one language while doing it.

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#286532

On 3/28/2015 7:43 PM, William Poaster wrote:
> It was reported that Melzzzzz posted:
>
>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 18:55:06 -0400
>> Donald Miller <donaldmiller955@mail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>> Hopefully Microsoft, a rotten and putrid smelling company,
>>> a company who actually develops " low-quality goods"
>>> will finally sink right into the ground where it belongs.
>
> I hace corrected the trolling fuckwit's sentence. :-)


heh!  cola's dumbest dumbass speaks.

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#286536

On 3/28/2015 7:19 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 18:55:06 -0400
> Donald Miller <donaldmiller955@mail.com> wrote:
>
>> Desktop Linux is pretty well on it's way to self extermination anyway
>> but Windows 10 Secure Boot Lock Out is going to pound a few more nails
>> in the already rotten and putrid smelling Linux coffin.
>>
>> Then there is the speculation that Microsoft might by purchasing a
>> controlling interest in Cyanogen in order to stomp on Android.
>> That one might actually cause some serious damage because anyone who
>> has used an Android device knows they are extremely buggy and that
>> Cyanogen is one method for resolving that buggy behavior.
>>
>> Hopefully Microsoft, a company who actually develops software people
>> are interested in using, will be able to finally sink Linux right into
>> the ground where it belongs.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://techrights.org/2015/03/28/microsoft-role-in-cyanogen/
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windows-10-to-make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/
>
> I am really starting to hate Microsoft...


Why?  This has nothing to do with Microsoft.  It'll be the OEMs making 
the choice to require Secure Boot.

But go ahead and hate anyway - it's what your kind does.  You're a Linux 
advocate who thinks the world + MS + OEMs owes you something.

"The precise final specs are not available yet, so all this is somewhat 
subject to change, but right now, Microsoft says that the switch to 
allow Secure Boot to be turned off is now optional. Hardware can be 
Designed for Windows 10 and can offer no way to opt out of the Secure 
Boot lock down."

You'll know for sure in a few weeks/months.

But... too bad for you Linuxfux if it turns out the OEM disallows Secure 
Boot to be switched off.  It's their product to do with as they wish. 
They owe you nothing.  If you don't like it, buy somewhere else that 
offers hardware not 'Designed for Win10', or build your own.

You don't get the exact options you want with prebuilt systems, anyway. 
  So what are you complaining about?

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#286601

On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 00:19:34 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 18:55:06 -0400 Donald Miller
> <donaldmiller955@mail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Desktop Linux is pretty well on it's way to self extermination anyway
>> but Windows 10 Secure Boot Lock Out is going to pound a few more nails
>> in the already rotten and putrid smelling Linux coffin.
>> 
>> Then there is the speculation that Microsoft might by purchasing a
>> controlling interest in Cyanogen in order to stomp on Android.
>> That one might actually cause some serious damage because anyone who
>> has used an Android device knows they are extremely buggy and that
>> Cyanogen is one method for resolving that buggy behavior.
>> 
>> Hopefully Microsoft, a company who actually develops software people
>> are interested in using, will be able to finally sink Linux right into
>> the ground where it belongs.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://techrights.org/2015/03/28/microsoft-role-in-cyanogen/
>> 
>> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windows-10-to-
make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/
> 
> I am really starting to hate Microsoft...

In this case it sounds more like "Donald Miller" -- whoever he is -- is 
just a MicroCrap Cultist moron engaged in wishful thinking.

-- 
When Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck ...
                           it'll be a vacuum cleaner

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#286605

ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 00:19:34 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 18:55:06 -0400 Donald Miller
>> <donaldmiller955@mail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Desktop Linux is pretty well on it's way to self extermination anyway
>>> but Windows 10 Secure Boot Lock Out is going to pound a few more nails
>>> in the already rotten and putrid smelling Linux coffin.
>>> 
>>> Then there is the speculation that Microsoft might by purchasing a
>>> controlling interest in Cyanogen in order to stomp on Android.
>>> That one might actually cause some serious damage because anyone who
>>> has used an Android device knows they are extremely buggy and that
>>> Cyanogen is one method for resolving that buggy behavior.
>>> 
>>> Hopefully Microsoft, a company who actually develops software people
>>> are interested in using, will be able to finally sink Linux right into
>>> the ground where it belongs.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://techrights.org/2015/03/28/microsoft-role-in-cyanogen/
>>> 
>>> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/windows-10-to-
> make-the-secure-boot-alt-os-lock-out-a-reality/
>> 
>> I am really starting to hate Microsoft...

> In this case it sounds more like "Donald Miller" -- whoever he is -- is 
> just a MicroCrap Cultist moron engaged in wishful thinking.

"MicroCrap."  LOL that's so funny and mature.  Keep your six-year-olds
away from teh screen so they don't witness all that mature humor that
only us adults know how to use and rightly so because it's so mature.

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#286680

On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 15:03:37 +0000, owl wrote:

> "MicroCrap."  LOL that's so funny and mature.  Keep your six-year-olds
> away from teh screen so they don't witness all that mature humor that
> only us adults know how to use and rightly so because it's so mature.

I'm trying to communicate with 6th grade level WinDrones. In other words 
I'm "talking down" to you. If you were smart enough to figure out what I 
just said, you would be insulted.

-- 
When Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck ...
                           it'll be a vacuum cleaner

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#286687

ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 15:03:37 +0000, owl wrote:

>> "MicroCrap."  LOL that's so funny and mature.  Keep your six-year-olds
>> away from teh screen so they don't witness all that mature humor that
>> only us adults know how to use and rightly so because it's so mature.

> I'm trying to communicate with 6th grade level WinDrones. In other words 
> I'm "talking down" to you. If you were smart enough to figure out what I 
> just said, you would be insulted.

Are you "smart"?  Wow just wow that must be exciting.

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#286689

On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 04:36:30 +0000, owl wrote:

> ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 15:03:37 +0000, owl wrote:
> 
>>> "MicroCrap."  LOL that's so funny and mature.  Keep your six-year-olds
>>> away from teh screen so they don't witness all that mature humor that
>>> only us adults know how to use and rightly so because it's so mature.
> 
>> I'm trying to communicate with 6th grade level WinDrones. In other
>> words I'm "talking down" to you. If you were smart enough to figure out
>> what I just said, you would be insulted.
> 
> Are you "smart"?  Wow just wow that must be exciting.

No, if I was smart I would have killfiled you long ago. But I'm getting 
smarter.

-- 
When Microsoft makes a product that doesn't suck ...
                           it'll be a vacuum cleaner

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#286694

ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 04:36:30 +0000, owl wrote:

>> ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 15:03:37 +0000, owl wrote:
>> 
>>>> "MicroCrap."  LOL that's so funny and mature.  Keep your six-year-olds
>>>> away from teh screen so they don't witness all that mature humor that
>>>> only us adults know how to use and rightly so because it's so mature.
>> 
>>> I'm trying to communicate with 6th grade level WinDrones. In other
>>> words I'm "talking down" to you. If you were smart enough to figure out
>>> what I just said, you would be insulted.
>> 
>> Are you "smart"?  Wow just wow that must be exciting.

> No, if I was smart I would have killfiled you long ago. But I'm getting 
> smarter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiS6EteKcoY

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#286701

It was reported that ronb posted:

> On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 04:36:30 +0000, owl wrote:
>
>> ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 15:03:37 +0000, owl wrote:
>> 
>>>> "MicroCrap."  LOL that's so funny and mature.  Keep your six-year-olds
>>>> away from teh screen so they don't witness all that mature humor that
>>>> only us adults know how to use and rightly so because it's so mature.
>> 
>>> I'm trying to communicate with 6th grade level WinDrones. In other
>>> words I'm "talking down" to you. If you were smart enough to figure out
>>> what I just said, you would be insulted.
>> 
>> Are you "smart"?  Wow just wow that must be exciting.
>
> No, if I was smart I would have killfiled you long ago. 

BTDT ages ago.

> But I'm getting smarter.

Well IMO you're wasting your time with the kid. 

-- 
openSUSE 13.2 64-bit
KDE 4.14.6
Kernel: 3.19.1-2.1.desktop x86_64 GNU/Linux 2015-3-10

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#286705

William Poaster wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> It was reported that ronb posted:
>
>> On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 04:36:30 +0000, owl wrote:
>>
>>> ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 15:03:37 +0000, owl wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> "MicroCrap."  LOL that's so funny and mature.  Keep your six-year-olds
>>>>> away from teh screen so they don't witness all that mature humor that
>>>>> only us adults know how to use and rightly so because it's so mature.
>>> 
>>>> I'm trying to communicate with 6th grade level WinDrones. In other
>>>> words I'm "talking down" to you. If you were smart enough to figure out
>>>> what I just said, you would be insulted.
>>> 
>>> Are you "smart"?  Wow just wow that must be exciting.
>>
>> No, if I was smart I would have killfiled you long ago. 
>
> BTDT ages ago.
>
>> But I'm getting smarter.
>
> Well IMO you're wasting your time with the kid. 

Owl's another Time Wasting Arsehole Troll.

-- 
Make me look like LINDA RONSTADT again!!

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