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  Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-24 13:12 -0400
    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-24 18:29 +0000
      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-24 12:47 -0700
        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-24 16:25 -0400
          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-24 13:36 -0700
          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-24 13:49 -0700
            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-25 04:27 -0700
              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-25 08:01 -0400
                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 10:59 -0700
                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-25 11:08 -0700
                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 11:22 -0700
                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-25 14:49 -0400
                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-25 12:20 -0700
                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 13:14 -0700
                        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-25 22:24 +0100
                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 14:44 -0700
                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-25 22:50 +0100
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-25 18:11 -0400
                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 14:47 -0700
                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 07:04 -0500
                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 08:04 -0700
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-28 01:04 +0000
                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 08:51 -0700
                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-25 15:54 -0600
                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 15:02 -0700
                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-25 19:45 -0600
                        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 18:53 -0700
                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 19:47 -0700
                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-25 23:25 -0600
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 23:11 -0700
                        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 19:48 -0700
                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 18:15 -0700
                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 07:48 -0700
                        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-26 11:11 -0400
                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 09:17 -0700
                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-26 10:36 -0700
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 11:04 -0700
                                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-27 03:51 -0700
                                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-27 08:10 -0400
                                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-30 04:51 -0700
                                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 08:31 -0700
                                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-30 09:02 -0700
                                        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 09:19 -0700
                                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-30 09:44 -0700
                                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 10:02 -0700
                                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-30 11:19 -0700
                                                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 11:48 -0700
                                                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-30 13:23 -0700
                                                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 14:02 -0700
                                                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 13:27 -0700
                                                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 14:01 -0700
                                                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 14:53 -0700
                                                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-04 09:21 -0400
                                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 21:42 +0000
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 11:45 -0700
                                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 12:40 -0700
                                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-03-26 15:24 -0500
                                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-26 17:48 -0400
                                      Re: Chris AssStorm is a homoerotic version of Mr. Bean Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-26 18:00 -0400
                                        Re: Chris AssStorm is a homoerotic version of Mr. Bean Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-26 23:10 +0100
                                          Silly subject redacted Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-26 20:23 -0400
                                            Re: Silly subject redacted Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-26 20:46 -0400
                                            Re: Silly subject redacted GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-27 14:13 -0600
                                          Re: Chris AssStorm is a homoerotic version of Mr. Bean Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-26 20:44 -0400
                                          Re: Chris AssStorm is a homoerotic version of Mr. Bean GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-27 14:13 -0600
                                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 19:08 -0700
                                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 19:19 -0700
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-26 15:09 -0400
                                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 12:16 -0700
                                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 13:17 -0700
                              PDP-11 Unix and c began in 1972. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-03-26 19:00 -0700
                                Re: PDP-11 Unix and c began in 1972. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-27 14:10 -0600
                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 09:50 -0700
                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 10:57 -0700
                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-26 18:14 +0000
                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 11:46 -0700
                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 14:21 -0600
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-26 21:34 +0000
                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-27 13:59 -0400
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-27 18:41 +0000
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 10:20 -0700
                                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 11:21 -0700
                              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-04 09:33 -0400
                                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-04 09:47 -0400
                                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-04 10:16 -0400
                                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-04 16:33 -0600
                                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-04 15:56 -0700
                                        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-05 12:41 -0600
                                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-05 12:56 -0700
                                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-04-05 16:49 -0700
                                            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-06 13:15 -0600
                                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-04 08:33 -0700
                                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-04 20:00 -0400
                                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-04 16:58 +0000
                                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-04 19:59 -0400
                                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-05 00:29 +0000
                                        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-04 20:47 -0400
                                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-05 00:59 +0000
                          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 14:19 -0600
              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 10:31 -0700
                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-25 11:06 -0700
                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 11:21 -0700
                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-25 12:16 -0700
                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 13:17 -0700
            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-25 23:41 -0400
              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 20:52 -0700
                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-25 21:20 -0700
                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-26 04:44 -0700
                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 08:21 -0700
                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-26 14:16 -0600
                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 13:18 -0700
                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 08:54 -0700
                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-26 13:23 +0100
                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-26 07:39 -0500
                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 08:49 -0700
                      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-26 20:14 +0100
                Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-26 11:11 -0400
                  Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-26 08:55 -0700
                    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-26 09:28 -0700
      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-24 13:07 -0700
        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-24 13:26 -0700
    Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-24 11:51 -0700
      Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-24 16:26 -0400
        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-24 13:52 -0700
          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-24 22:00 +0100
            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-24 15:30 -0700
          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-24 17:09 -0400
            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-24 15:43 -0700
            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-25 10:57 -0700
          Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-25 23:42 -0400
            Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-26 16:20 -0700
              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-03-26 19:12 -0600
              Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-03-26 22:32 -0500
                Snit says cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'!?!? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-27 06:10 -0400
                  Re: Snit says cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'!?!? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-27 08:09 -0400
                    Re: Snit says cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'!?!? "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-27 09:02 -0400
                      Re: Snit says cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'!?!? GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-27 14:06 -0600
                  Re: Snit says cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'!?!? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-27 07:42 -0500
                    Re: Snit says cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'!?!? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-27 09:08 -0400
                      Re: Snit says cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'!?!? "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-27 09:26 -0400
                    Re: Snit says cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'!?!? GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-27 14:04 -0600
        Re: Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-24 14:41 -0700

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#285840 — Snit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'...

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2015-03-24 13:12 -0400
SubjectSnit, when you say cola trusts your views on 'pretty much any topic'...
Message-ID<mes5s8$unv$5@dont-email.me>
... which topics do you think they don't trust your views on?  And why 
don't they trust your views on those topics?



Snit: "people in COLA trust my views on pretty much any topic more than
        they trust anyone else. I am seen as an "expert" not because I am
        but because my *relative* knowledge is so much greater than most
        in COLA."

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#285855

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-03-24 18:29 +0000
Message-ID<bhv93.0a3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#285840
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> ... which topics do you think they don't trust your views on?  And why 
> don't they trust your views on those topics?



> Snit: "people in COLA trust my views on pretty much any topic more than
>         they trust anyone else. I am seen as an "expert" not because I am
>         but because my *relative* knowledge is so much greater than most
>         in COLA."


LOL!  Did that fool actually say that?
Snit, you dumbass!  Nobody sees you as an expert on *anything*.
Here's how you are seen:  as an annoyingly whiney-voiced, stupid-video-making
mactard spaz, whose whole life revolves around focusing as many usenet
spotlights on himself as possible, while simultaneously evangelizing
for the religion of Pyschobabble and a presidential run for Neil the Grass
Tyson.  And you do this with that irritating starbuckspeak, "wow just wow"
and "wait for it." 

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#285860

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-03-24 12:47 -0700
Message-ID<D1370D62.4901E%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#285855
On 3/24/15, 11:29 AM, in article bhv93.0a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> ... which topics do you think they don't trust your views on?  And why
>> don't they trust your views on those topics?
> 
> 
> 
>> Snit: "people in COLA trust my views on pretty much any topic more than
>>         they trust anyone else. I am seen as an "expert" not because I am
>>         but because my *relative* knowledge is so much greater than most
>>         in COLA."
> 
> 
> LOL!  Did that fool actually say that?
> Snit, you dumbass!  Nobody sees you as an expert on *anything*.

At the time the "advocates" and others were trying to catch me in an error.
They were asking me questions on all sorts of things. Or maybe it was some
non-advocates.

Who the hell knows. It was years ago.

Don't remember. Don't care.

> Here's how you are seen:  as an annoyingly whiney-voiced, stupid-video-making
> mactard spaz, whose whole life revolves around focusing as many usenet
> spotlights on himself as possible, while simultaneously evangelizing
> for the religion of Pyschobabble and a presidential run for Neil the Grass
> Tyson.  And you do this with that irritating starbuckspeak, "wow just wow"
> and "wait for it."

And there you go: demonstrating you see me as better than you so you feel
the need to put me down.



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#285863

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2015-03-24 16:25 -0400
Message-ID<mesh69$jq9$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#285860
On 3/24/2015 3:47 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 3/24/15, 11:29 AM, in article bhv93.0a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> ... which topics do you think they don't trust your views on?  And why
>>> don't they trust your views on those topics?
>>
>>
>>
>>> Snit: "people in COLA trust my views on pretty much any topic more than
>>>          they trust anyone else. I am seen as an "expert" not because I am
>>>          but because my *relative* knowledge is so much greater than most
>>>          in COLA."
>>
>>
>> LOL!  Did that fool actually say that?
>> Snit, you dumbass!  Nobody sees you as an expert on *anything*.
>
> At the time the "advocates" and others were trying to catch me in an error.
> They were asking me questions on all sorts of things. Or maybe it was some
> non-advocates.
>
> Who the hell knows. It was years ago.


It was 8 months ago.



> Don't remember. Don't care.
>
>> Here's how you are seen:  as an annoyingly whiney-voiced, stupid-video-making
>> mactard spaz, whose whole life revolves around focusing as many usenet
>> spotlights on himself as possible, while simultaneously evangelizing
>> for the religion of Pyschobabble and a presidential run for Neil the Grass
>> Tyson.  And you do this with that irritating starbuckspeak, "wow just wow"
>> and "wait for it."
>
> And there you go: demonstrating you see me as better than you so you feel
> the need to put me down.





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#285871

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2015-03-24 13:36 -0700
Message-ID<c69b8f15-ee22-4077-8677-19492ca500d2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#285863
On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 2:25:36 PM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
> On 3/24/2015 3:47 PM, Snit wrote:
> > On 3/24/15, 11:29 AM, in article bhv93.0a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> > <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> >>> ... which topics do you think they don't trust your views on?  And why
> >>> don't they trust your views on those topics?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Snit: "people in COLA trust my views on pretty much any topic more than
> >>>          they trust anyone else. I am seen as an "expert" not because I am
> >>>          but because my *relative* knowledge is so much greater than most
> >>>          in COLA."
> >>
> >>
> >> LOL!  Did that fool actually say that?
> >> Snit, you dumbass!  Nobody sees you as an expert on *anything*.
> >
> > At the time the "advocates" and others were trying to catch me in an error.
> > They were asking me questions on all sorts of things. Or maybe it was some
> > non-advocates.
> >
> > Who the hell knows. It was years ago.
> 
> 
> It was 8 months ago.

Surely you're not going to suggest he's... lying, are you?!

Hmmm... 8 months... I wonder how that interval squares with his 'expiration date' rule ;)

> > Don't remember. Don't care.

Right, Snit... <eyeroll>, if you sniffed even the slightest opportunity to be believed, you'd have 'cared' enough to enter quote-fest mode (and we all know it, even you).

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#285873

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-03-24 13:49 -0700
Message-ID<D1371BF5.49031%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#285863
On 3/24/15, 1:25 PM, in article mesh69$jq9$2@dont-email.me, "DFS"
<nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

> On 3/24/2015 3:47 PM, Snit wrote:
>> On 3/24/15, 11:29 AM, in article bhv93.0a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>> ... which topics do you think they don't trust your views on?  And why
>>>> don't they trust your views on those topics?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Snit: "people in COLA trust my views on pretty much any topic more than
>>>>          they trust anyone else. I am seen as an "expert" not because I am
>>>>          but because my *relative* knowledge is so much greater than most
>>>>          in COLA."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> LOL!  Did that fool actually say that?
>>> Snit, you dumbass!  Nobody sees you as an expert on *anything*.
>> 
>> At the time the "advocates" and others were trying to catch me in an error.
>> They were asking me questions on all sorts of things. Or maybe it was some
>> non-advocates.
>> 
>> Who the hell knows. It was years ago.
> 
> It was 8 months ago.

Ah, found it. Yeah, it was when cc and some others were begging me to
explain the basics of Objective-C and Swift and the like even though I am
not a programmer. 

Totally idiotic discussion. But, sure, it was mostly cc and he often
pretends to be knowledgeable about things he is completely clueless about.
Think Peter and some of the other well known ignorant folks of COLA were
involved, too. 

Was referring mostly to those in the conversation. And I was right.



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#285906

Fromcc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com>
Date2015-03-25 04:27 -0700
Message-ID<d1138f6c-86f3-4eff-86a5-f5ea43b0bee9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#285873
On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 4:49:54 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
> On 3/24/15, 1:25 PM, in article mesh69$jq9$2@dont-email.me, "DFS"
> <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 3/24/2015 3:47 PM, Snit wrote:
> >> On 3/24/15, 11:29 AM, in article bhv93.0a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> >> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> >>>> ... which topics do you think they don't trust your views on?  And why
> >>>> don't they trust your views on those topics?
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> Snit: "people in COLA trust my views on pretty much any topic more than
> >>>>          they trust anyone else. I am seen as an "expert" not because I am
> >>>>          but because my *relative* knowledge is so much greater than most
> >>>>          in COLA."
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> LOL!  Did that fool actually say that?
> >>> Snit, you dumbass!  Nobody sees you as an expert on *anything*.
> >> 
> >> At the time the "advocates" and others were trying to catch me in an error.
> >> They were asking me questions on all sorts of things. Or maybe it was some
> >> non-advocates.
> >> 
> >> Who the hell knows. It was years ago.
> > 
> > It was 8 months ago.
> 
> Ah, found it. Yeah, it was when cc and some others were begging me to
> explain the basics of Objective-C and Swift and the like even though I am
> not a programmer. 

Horseshit. No one asked you to explain anything. We were explaining it 
to you. You're really racking up the lies lately.

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#285912

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2015-03-25 08:01 -0400
Message-ID<meu819$7qs$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#285906
"cc" <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:d1138f6c-86f3-4eff-86a5-f5ea43b0bee9@googlegroups.com...
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 4:49:54 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>> On 3/24/15, 1:25 PM, in article mesh69$jq9$2@dont-email.me, "DFS"
>> <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On 3/24/2015 3:47 PM, Snit wrote:
>> >> On 3/24/15, 11:29 AM, in article bhv93.0a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> >> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> >>>> ... which topics do you think they don't trust your views on?  And 
>> >>>> why
>> >>>> don't they trust your views on those topics?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Snit: "people in COLA trust my views on pretty much any topic more 
>> >>>> than
>> >>>>          they trust anyone else. I am seen as an "expert" not 
>> >>>> because I am
>> >>>>          but because my *relative* knowledge is so much greater than 
>> >>>> most
>> >>>>          in COLA."
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> LOL!  Did that fool actually say that?
>> >>> Snit, you dumbass!  Nobody sees you as an expert on *anything*.
>> >>
>> >> At the time the "advocates" and others were trying to catch me in an 
>> >> error.
>> >> They were asking me questions on all sorts of things. Or maybe it was 
>> >> some
>> >> non-advocates.
>> >>
>> >> Who the hell knows. It was years ago.
>> >
>> > It was 8 months ago.
>>
>> Ah, found it. Yeah, it was when cc and some others were begging me to
>> explain the basics of Objective-C and Swift and the like even though I am
>> not a programmer.
>
> Horseshit. No one asked you to explain anything. We were explaining it
> to you. You're really racking up the lies lately.

There was some thread a couple/few years back where Snit talked to his well 
respected, very senior expert programmer friend about why programming 
languages are case sensitive. Some of the answers were /classic/ - it 
compiles faster and some other nonsense like that.


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#285965

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-03-25 10:59 -0700
Message-ID<D1384588.49099%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#285912
On 3/25/15, 5:01 AM, in article meu819$7qs$1@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
<zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:

>>> Ah, found it. Yeah, it was when cc and some others were begging me to
>>> explain the basics of Objective-C and Swift and the like even though I am
>>> not a programmer.
>> 
>> Horseshit. No one asked you to explain anything. We were explaining it
>> to you. You're really racking up the lies lately.
> 
> There was some thread a couple/few years back where Snit talked to his well
> respected, very senior expert programmer friend about why programming
> languages are case sensitive. Some of the answers were /classic/ - it
> compiles faster and some other nonsense like that.

Yes, I talked to him about that and other things and likely misstated some
things he said. It was *hilarious*.

Anyway, still waiting for someone to defend the value of case sensitivity
(and not just case preserving) in computer languages and file systems. cc's
attempts truly were funny.


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#285969

Fromcc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com>
Date2015-03-25 11:08 -0700
Message-ID<febd4025-b90b-41d4-8d7b-64358eacea18@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#285965
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 1:59:29 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
> On 3/25/15, 5:01 AM, in article meu819$7qs$1@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
> <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
> 
> >>> Ah, found it. Yeah, it was when cc and some others were begging me to
> >>> explain the basics of Objective-C and Swift and the like even though I am
> >>> not a programmer.
> >> 
> >> Horseshit. No one asked you to explain anything. We were explaining it
> >> to you. You're really racking up the lies lately.
> > 
> > There was some thread a couple/few years back where Snit talked to his well
> > respected, very senior expert programmer friend about why programming
> > languages are case sensitive. Some of the answers were /classic/ - it
> > compiles faster and some other nonsense like that.
> 
> Yes, I talked to him about that and other things and likely misstated some
> things he said. It was *hilarious*.
> 
> Anyway, still waiting for someone to defend the value of case sensitivity
> (and not just case preserving) in computer languages and file systems. cc's
> attempts truly were funny.
> 

I know you have a hard on for me, but I came in late to that argument. 
It was mostly Hadron and Ezekiel putting you in your place on the case 
sensitivity.

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#285972

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-03-25 11:22 -0700
Message-ID<D1384AEB.490A4%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#285969
On 3/25/15, 11:08 AM, in article
febd4025-b90b-41d4-8d7b-64358eacea18@googlegroups.com, "cc"
<scatnubbs@hotmail.com> wrote:

... 
> I know you have a hard on for me, but I came in late to that argument.
> It was mostly Hadron and Ezekiel putting you in your place on the case
> sensitivity.

The best part of that whole debate:

  cc:
    -----
    Why would they be so popular if it had alot of disadvantages? Why
    would all the insanely smart language designers of the past few
    decades choose, and continue to choose, to create case sensitivite
    languages? Why would Apple and NeXT, which did not like the
    current state of languages, choose a little used, *case
    sensitive*, combination of smalltalk and C? You're saying they
    made a mistake not going with a case insensitive language. Well
    they had the resources, and obviously the desire to use what they
    thought was a better language (even if no one else uses it), so
    why did they pick a case sensitive language that you alledge has
    so many disadvantages? You keep running from these points. Of
    course the answer is simple: Case sensitive languages are popular
    by far because case sensitivity is better than case insensitivity.
    This isn't music or movies, this is science and engineering. It's
    popular for a reason.
    -----
    You don't understand why case sensitive languages are better. We
    get that. You're an idiot. You also have an idiot, liar, friend
    who thinks compiled microcontroller code is affect by case
    sensitivity, lied about .NET guidelines and tools, and who duped
    you into thinking he was an expert. So you have that going against
    you too. You keep on thinking that case insensitive languages are
    best and the world will continue to ignore you and teach, learn,
    design, and use case sensitive languages as a vast majority.
    -----
    
  Snit, mocking cc's complete lack of ability to use logic:
    -----
    Why would QWERTY keyboards be so popular if it had a lot of
    disadvantages? Why would all the insanely smart keyboard designers
    of the past few decades choose, and continue to choose, to create
    QWERTY keyboard layouts? Why would Apple and NeXT, which did not
    like the current state of keyboard and designed their own, choose
    to use a QWERTY layout? Anyone who disagrees is saying they made a
    mistake not going with a Dvorak or something else. Well they had
    the resources, and obviously the desire to use what they thought
    was a better keyboard layout (even if no one else uses it), so why
    did they pick a QWERTY layout that some allege has so many
    disadvantages?

    Anyone who disagrees is just running from these points. Of course
    the answer is simple: QWERTY layouts are popular by far because
    QWERTY is better than Dvorak or any other option. This isn't music
    or movies, this is science and engineering. It's popular for a
    reason.
    -----
    Some don't understand why QWERTY layouts are better. I get that.
    Such people are idiots. And if anyone claims they have spoken to
    an expert who disagrees than that expert is an idiot, too. They
    can keep on thinking that Dvorak or other layout are best and the
    world will continue to ignore you and teach, learn, design, and
    use QWERTY layouts the vast majority of the time.
    -----

I loved how you just crumbled into whining and insults after that. :)

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#285974

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2015-03-25 14:49 -0400
Message-ID<meuvu4$ffo$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#285969
"cc" <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:febd4025-b90b-41d4-8d7b-64358eacea18@googlegroups.com...
> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 1:59:29 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
>> On 3/25/15, 5:01 AM, in article meu819$7qs$1@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
>> <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> Ah, found it. Yeah, it was when cc and some others were begging me to
>> >>> explain the basics of Objective-C and Swift and the like even though 
>> >>> I am
>> >>> not a programmer.
>> >>
>> >> Horseshit. No one asked you to explain anything. We were explaining it
>> >> to you. You're really racking up the lies lately.
>> >
>> > There was some thread a couple/few years back where Snit talked to his 
>> > well
>> > respected, very senior expert programmer friend about why programming
>> > languages are case sensitive. Some of the answers were /classic/ - it
>> > compiles faster and some other nonsense like that.
>>
>> Yes, I talked to him about that and other things and likely misstated 
>> some
>> things he said. It was *hilarious*.
>>
>> Anyway, still waiting for someone to defend the value of case sensitivity
>> (and not just case preserving) in computer languages and file systems. 
>> cc's
>> attempts truly were funny.
>>
>
> I know you have a hard on for me, but I came in late to that argument.
> It was mostly Hadron and Ezekiel putting you in your place on the case
> sensitivity.


Below is the *partial* post from Snit. His anonymous "very experienced and 
respected expert programmer" gave some hilarious reasons why programming 
languages shouldn't be case sensitive.

Example - someone at his company used a bad variable name and it caused a 
"great deal of lost work" and "it is costing the company a fair amount of 
time and energy and money." to change the variable name.

If only this experienced respected programmer had an editor that supported 
"search and replace" or had access to sophisticated state of the art tools 
like 'sed' (circa 1973).


Subject: Procmail
Date: Saturday, January 25, 2014 5:46 PM
MsgId: <CF097EDF.2C590%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>

<quote>
OK, talked for some time with the programmer I know. Without giving much
detail about him, he is *very* experienced, works at a huge corporation
known for both their software and hardware and for being the biggest name in
the industry he is in, and he is very well respected by his peers at the
company (I know a number of them and have met many others at his wedding
many years ago, etc.). Since you have nothing but an appeal to authority
there is *no* doubt that he is an authority far better than you and anyone
else in COLA. Bar none. He knows what he is talking about. His word holds
more weight than yours and the rest of COLA combined.

And I was surprised by what he said. I expected him to back case
sensitivity. He did not.

With that said: he did note this is a "religious" debate and you will find
"real programmers" on both sides. But his basic view (and, remember, no
matter what else you say he is *far* more of an authority than you are - no,
I cannot prove this because I will not say who he is, but if your goal is to
convince me you will fail... your words mean *nothing* to me and his words
are very well respected):

In other words: as a non-programmer doing basic research, I *leaned* toward
what someone who is 1000x the "authority" holds to in a *very* strong way.
You, with no authority, no support, no reason, and no experience have pushed
a view which - as the real programmer notes - some programmers hold on to
with religious fervor, but you cannot back it.
</quote>

LOL.

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#285976

Fromcc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com>
Date2015-03-25 12:20 -0700
Message-ID<9e0a71bd-8b4c-4415-a7c4-e3cbbaed8a33@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#285974
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 2:49:29 PM UTC-4, Ezekiel wrote:
> "cc" <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:febd4025-b90b-41d4-8d7b-64358eacea18@googlegroups.com...
> > On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 1:59:29 PM UTC-4, Snit wrote:
> >> On 3/25/15, 5:01 AM, in article meu819$7qs$1@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
> >> <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>> Ah, found it. Yeah, it was when cc and some others were begging me to
> >> >>> explain the basics of Objective-C and Swift and the like even though 
> >> >>> I am
> >> >>> not a programmer.
> >> >>
> >> >> Horseshit. No one asked you to explain anything. We were explaining it
> >> >> to you. You're really racking up the lies lately.
> >> >
> >> > There was some thread a couple/few years back where Snit talked to his 
> >> > well
> >> > respected, very senior expert programmer friend about why programming
> >> > languages are case sensitive. Some of the answers were /classic/ - it
> >> > compiles faster and some other nonsense like that.
> >>
> >> Yes, I talked to him about that and other things and likely misstated 
> >> some
> >> things he said. It was *hilarious*.
> >>
> >> Anyway, still waiting for someone to defend the value of case sensitivity
> >> (and not just case preserving) in computer languages and file systems. 
> >> cc's
> >> attempts truly were funny.
> >>
> >
> > I know you have a hard on for me, but I came in late to that argument.
> > It was mostly Hadron and Ezekiel putting you in your place on the case
> > sensitivity.
> 
> 
> Below is the *partial* post from Snit. His anonymous "very experienced and 
> respected expert programmer" gave some hilarious reasons why programming 
> languages shouldn't be case sensitive.
> 
> Example - someone at his company used a bad variable name and it caused a 
> "great deal of lost work" and "it is costing the company a fair amount of 
> time and energy and money." to change the variable name.
> 
> If only this experienced respected programmer had an editor that supported 
> "search and replace" or had access to sophisticated state of the art tools 
> like 'sed' (circa 1973).

Classic.

> 
> Subject: Procmail
> Date: Saturday, January 25, 2014 5:46 PM
> MsgId: <CF097EDF.2C590%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> 
> <quote>
> OK, talked for some time with the programmer I know. Without giving much
> detail about him, he is *very* experienced, works at a huge corporation
> known for both their software and hardware and for being the biggest name in
> the industry he is in, and he is very well respected by his peers at the
> company (I know a number of them and have met many others at his wedding
> many years ago, etc.). Since you have nothing but an appeal to authority
> there is *no* doubt that he is an authority far better than you and anyone
> else in COLA. Bar none. He knows what he is talking about. His word holds
> more weight than yours and the rest of COLA combined.
> 
> And I was surprised by what he said. I expected him to back case
> sensitivity. He did not.
> 
> With that said: he did note this is a "religious" debate and you will find
> "real programmers" on both sides. But his basic view (and, remember, no
> matter what else you say he is *far* more of an authority than you are - no,
> I cannot prove this because I will not say who he is, but if your goal is to
> convince me you will fail... your words mean *nothing* to me and his words
> are very well respected):
> 
> In other words: as a non-programmer doing basic research, I *leaned* toward
> what someone who is 1000x the "authority" holds to in a *very* strong way.
> You, with no authority, no support, no reason, and no experience have pushed
> a view which - as the real programmer notes - some programmers hold on to
> with religious fervor, but you cannot back it.
> </quote>
> 
> LOL.

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#285984

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-03-25 13:14 -0700
Message-ID<D138654D.490B4%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#285974
On 3/25/15, 11:49 AM, in article meuvu4$ffo$1@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
<zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:

...
>> I know you have a hard on for me, but I came in late to that argument.
>> It was mostly Hadron and Ezekiel putting you in your place on the case
>> sensitivity.
> 
> 
> Below is the *partial* post from Snit. His anonymous "very experienced and
> respected expert programmer" gave some hilarious reasons why programming
> languages shouldn't be case sensitive.
> 
> Example - someone at his company used a bad variable name and it caused a
> "great deal of lost work" and "it is costing the company a fair amount of
> time and energy and money." to change the variable name.

Just changing a variable name is not that hard (though you have to be
careful to change it in all relevant places). The bigger issue is finding
all the bugs caused by it.

If you have two variables: "myDogHouse" and "myDoghouse" it can be very hard
to find. Humans read those as the same (yes, I KNOW you can see the
difference when it is pointed out, but it is easy to miss in thousands of
lines of code). 

> If only this experienced respected programmer had an editor that supported
> "search and replace" or had access to sophisticated state of the art tools
> like 'sed' (circa 1973).

Your argument assumes they would not have the two constructs with the same
name other than case. Which backs what I found. Remember, when the reasons
for and against having such names allowed were compared this is what was
found:

In support of NOT having such names be allowed:
* every college we can find
* every university we can find
* every source found through Google Scholar
* and even every blogger - mind boggling to see such agreement
* a whole list of specific affects to back the view

In support of having such names be allowed:
* a language designed to be backward compatible with C is a lot like C!
* popular equals best: go QWERTY and teaspoons (in the U.S)!
* code snippets showing case sensitivity can be used

If you think I left some out please let me know.
 
Remember, I have no dog in this race... just noted the support offered by
the "experts" in COLA was weak. And when talking to an actual expert he did
not agree... but that is not proof. I am sure other REAL experts would.

...



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#285997

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-03-25 22:24 +0100
Message-ID<mev90p$p65$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#285984
Snit wrote:

> On 3/25/15, 11:49 AM, in article meuvu4$ffo$1@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
> <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
> 
> ...
>>> I know you have a hard on for me, but I came in late to that argument.
>>> It was mostly Hadron and Ezekiel putting you in your place on the case
>>> sensitivity.
>> 
>> 
>> Below is the *partial* post from Snit. His anonymous "very experienced
>> and respected expert programmer" gave some hilarious reasons why
>> programming languages shouldn't be case sensitive.
>> 
>> Example - someone at his company used a bad variable name and it caused a
>> "great deal of lost work" and "it is costing the company a fair amount of
>> time and energy and money." to change the variable name.
> 
> Just changing a variable name is not that hard (though you have to be
> careful to change it in all relevant places). The bigger issue is finding
> all the bugs caused by it.
> 
> If you have two variables: "myDogHouse" and "myDoghouse" it can be very
> hard to find. Humans read those as the same (yes, I KNOW you can see the
> difference when it is pointed out, but it is easy to miss in thousands of
> lines of code).

Bullshit. It is extremely easy to find. Every compiler will flag the 
instance of the variable which was written wrong. This has nothing to do 
with case-sensitivity at all. A case-sensitive compiler will flag the 
instance with the wrong case just as a compiler which is not case-sensitive 
will flag a variable which was just spelled wrong. And no sane programmer 
(which would exclude you in all imaginable cases) would use different 
variables which just have different case

That you have no idea at all about programming is showing. And your "expert" 
(who knows programming so much better than everyone else) has no clue 
whatsoever, too

In short: You have shown once again that you are really that lying imbecile, 
Snit Michael Glasser

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#286005

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-03-25 14:44 -0700
Message-ID<D1387A55.490CA%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#285997
On 3/25/15, 2:24 PM, in article mev90p$p65$1@dont-email.me, "Peter Köhlmann"
<peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

> Snit wrote:
> 
>> On 3/25/15, 11:49 AM, in article meuvu4$ffo$1@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
>> <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ...
>>>> I know you have a hard on for me, but I came in late to that argument.
>>>> It was mostly Hadron and Ezekiel putting you in your place on the case
>>>> sensitivity.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Below is the *partial* post from Snit. His anonymous "very experienced
>>> and respected expert programmer" gave some hilarious reasons why
>>> programming languages shouldn't be case sensitive.
>>> 
>>> Example - someone at his company used a bad variable name and it caused a
>>> "great deal of lost work" and "it is costing the company a fair amount of
>>> time and energy and money." to change the variable name.
>> 
>> Just changing a variable name is not that hard (though you have to be
>> careful to change it in all relevant places). The bigger issue is finding
>> all the bugs caused by it.
>> 
>> If you have two variables: "myDogHouse" and "myDoghouse" it can be very
>> hard to find. Humans read those as the same (yes, I KNOW you can see the
>> difference when it is pointed out, but it is easy to miss in thousands of
>> lines of code).
> 
> Bullshit. It is extremely easy to find. Every compiler will flag the
> instance of the variable which was written wrong. This has nothing to do
> with case-sensitivity at all.

Sure it does. If you have do not have case sensitivity you cannot have such
confusion. 

> A case-sensitive compiler will flag the instance with the wrong case just as a
> compiler which is not case-sensitive will flag a variable which was just
> spelled wrong.

If the compiler is calling it wrong to use "myDogHouse" and "myDoghouse"
then why allow the two variables at all? Can you show an example of such an
error?

> And no sane programmer (which would exclude you in all
> imaginable cases) would use different variables which just have different case

If it is not an issue then why not? LOL!

You contradict yourself.

It does happen. People make mistakes.

> That you have no idea at all about programming is showing. And your "expert"
> (who knows programming so much better than everyone else) has no clue
> whatsoever, too

And yet his view is well backed by other sources and you have... um, maybe
cc? LOL!

> In short: You have shown once again that you are really that lying imbecile,
> Snit Michael Glasser



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#286008

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-03-25 22:50 +0100
Message-ID<mevah2$v43$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#286005
Snit wrote:

> On 3/25/15, 2:24 PM, in article mev90p$p65$1@dont-email.me, "Peter
> Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
> 
>> Snit wrote:
>> 
>>> On 3/25/15, 11:49 AM, in article meuvu4$ffo$1@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
>>> <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ...
>>>>> I know you have a hard on for me, but I came in late to that argument.
>>>>> It was mostly Hadron and Ezekiel putting you in your place on the case
>>>>> sensitivity.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Below is the *partial* post from Snit. His anonymous "very experienced
>>>> and respected expert programmer" gave some hilarious reasons why
>>>> programming languages shouldn't be case sensitive.
>>>> 
>>>> Example - someone at his company used a bad variable name and it caused
>>>> a "great deal of lost work" and "it is costing the company a fair
>>>> amount of time and energy and money." to change the variable name.
>>> 
>>> Just changing a variable name is not that hard (though you have to be
>>> careful to change it in all relevant places). The bigger issue is
>>> finding all the bugs caused by it.
>>> 
>>> If you have two variables: "myDogHouse" and "myDoghouse" it can be very
>>> hard to find. Humans read those as the same (yes, I KNOW you can see the
>>> difference when it is pointed out, but it is easy to miss in thousands
>>> of lines of code).
>> 
>> Bullshit. It is extremely easy to find. Every compiler will flag the
>> instance of the variable which was written wrong. This has nothing to do
>> with case-sensitivity at all.
> 
> Sure it does. If you have do not have case sensitivity you cannot have
> such confusion.

Idiot

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#286022

FromSlimer <slvrslmr@lv.c>
Date2015-03-25 18:11 -0400
Message-ID<mevbnv$3bv$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#286008
On 2015-03-25 5:50 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> On 3/25/15, 2:24 PM, in article mev90p$p65$1@dont-email.me, "Peter
>> Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/25/15, 11:49 AM, in article meuvu4$ffo$1@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
>>>> <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>>> I know you have a hard on for me, but I came in late to that argument.
>>>>>> It was mostly Hadron and Ezekiel putting you in your place on the case
>>>>>> sensitivity.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Below is the *partial* post from Snit. His anonymous "very experienced
>>>>> and respected expert programmer" gave some hilarious reasons why
>>>>> programming languages shouldn't be case sensitive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Example - someone at his company used a bad variable name and it caused
>>>>> a "great deal of lost work" and "it is costing the company a fair
>>>>> amount of time and energy and money." to change the variable name.
>>>>
>>>> Just changing a variable name is not that hard (though you have to be
>>>> careful to change it in all relevant places). The bigger issue is
>>>> finding all the bugs caused by it.
>>>>
>>>> If you have two variables: "myDogHouse" and "myDoghouse" it can be very
>>>> hard to find. Humans read those as the same (yes, I KNOW you can see the
>>>> difference when it is pointed out, but it is easy to miss in thousands
>>>> of lines of code).
>>>
>>> Bullshit. It is extremely easy to find. Every compiler will flag the
>>> instance of the variable which was written wrong. This has nothing to do
>>> with case-sensitivity at all.
>>
>> Sure it does. If you have do not have case sensitivity you cannot have
>> such confusion.
>
> Idiot

You forgot to post a message before signing.

-- 
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OpenMedia, GreenPeace Supporter & SPCA Paw Partner
Encrypt.

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#286006

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2015-03-25 14:47 -0700
Message-ID<701aabef-7c33-4c90-a5c6-c8d49e540179@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#285997
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 3:24:30 PM UTC-6, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> Snit wrote:
> 
> > On 3/25/15, 11:49 AM, in article meuvu4$ffo$1@dont-email.me, "Ezekiel"
> > <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > ...
> >>> I know you have a hard on for me, but I came in late to that argument.
> >>> It was mostly Hadron and Ezekiel putting you in your place on the case
> >>> sensitivity.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Below is the *partial* post from Snit. His anonymous "very experienced
> >> and respected expert programmer" gave some hilarious reasons why
> >> programming languages shouldn't be case sensitive.
> >> 
> >> Example - someone at his company used a bad variable name and it caused a
> >> "great deal of lost work" and "it is costing the company a fair amount of
> >> time and energy and money." to change the variable name.
> > 
> > Just changing a variable name is not that hard (though you have to be
> > careful to change it in all relevant places). The bigger issue is finding
> > all the bugs caused by it.
> > 
> > If you have two variables: "myDogHouse" and "myDoghouse" it can be very
> > hard to find. Humans read those as the same (yes, I KNOW you can see the
> > difference when it is pointed out, but it is easy to miss in thousands of
> > lines of code).
> 
> Bullshit. It is extremely easy to find. Every compiler will flag the 
> instance of the variable which was written wrong. This has nothing to do 
> with case-sensitivity at all. A case-sensitive compiler will flag the 
> instance with the wrong case just as a compiler which is not case-sensitive 
> will flag a variable which was just spelled wrong. And no sane programmer 
> (which would exclude you in all imaginable cases) would use different 
> variables which just have different case
> 
> That you have no idea at all about programming is showing. And your "expert" 
> (who knows programming so much better than everyone else) has no clue 
> whatsoever, too

Never underestimate Snit's ability to generate a 'story' when needed arises, just ramp up the ol' "psych degree" and presto! Instant programming "expert"! He has a story for every occasion, here's one where he's facing off with one of the U.S. government's evil minions, complete with 'path blocking' and 'voter threat'... such a timely 'story' it was, and it fit in so nicely with the rest of Snit's politicizing threads:

--
My local library has a showing of FahrenHYPE 9/11 today - so I went to see
what dirt they could pull up on Michael Moore and his movie.
I expected they would be able to pull up plenty - after all, I have no doubt
that the original F 9/11 was filled with innuendo, partial parts of stories,
and perhaps even some factual errors.  It was not produced to be even
handed, and it clearly was not.

That is what I expected.

While there may have been a few minutes here and there where the movie was
able to point to a flaw in Fahrenheit 9/11, for the most part it was nothing
but even more over-the-top propaganda Fahrenheit 9/11 itself.  It was filled
with self-contradictory statement - such as when it claim terrorism was a
clear thread to America - to outright lies - such as saying the war in Iraq
is tied to 9/11.  Mostly it was filled with whiney people spewing emotional
baggage onto the screen.

At the end of the movie some yahoo military type stood up at the front of
the audience and started spewing BS about how if Kerry is elected all war
heroes in the US will be tried as war criminals.  All.  He made that clear.
The guy was whacked.  So I stood up and politely started to walk out - not
looking at him but also not hiding my disgust for what he was saying.  He
must have seen my eyes rolling, because he blocked me and started to go off
on how I had better vote for Bush and how horrid Kerry is ... and even told
me he could squish me like a bug.

Well, now I was in front of a moderate sized audience with some crazed
ex-special forces idiot spewing off at me... so I opened my mouth.  I told
him he was very much right - with one hand tied behind his back he could
still probably think of 10 ways to kill me or make me wish I were dead.  So
what?  He was trying to argue he was right based on this.  He believed might
makes right.  That is about as far as his thinking could go.  And he and
Bush are in agreement.

With that I turned my back to him and walked out the door.  I was happy to
see the rest of the audience following me.  :)
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If this even happened (a *big* if), notice what can only be viewed as the punchline of this joke, "the rest of the audience" was "following" Snit when the movie was over, they didn't leave *because* the movie was over. LOL!

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#286190

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-03-26 07:04 -0500
Message-ID<b2t7hadg97o1h2t6q0dd1jp84nlinqkd3k@4ax.com>
In reply to#285997
>> Kreep wrote:
>>> 
>>> Below is the *partial* post from Snit. His anonymous "very experienced
>>> and respected expert programmer" gave some hilarious reasons why
>>> programming languages shouldn't be case sensitive.

The "Snit" thing will continue to insist that he's right, though, in
the face of experienced profressionals telling him he's wrong.  Not to
mention that these languages were designed by experts, in the first
place.

"Snit" knows best!  It's just absurd that programmers have the choice
of using a case-sensitive language!

Hey, Kreep, why did it take you so many years to figure-out how
ridiculous and relentlessly dishonest the thing is?

You must be very stupid.

-- 
'Snit gets ignored because many of the "advocates" are too stupid to
do anything but "me too" and leg-hump each other.'  -  trolling
fsckwit "Ezekiel"

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