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  A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-30 07:24 -0400
    Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-30 05:00 -0700
      Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been   discovered Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-03-31 12:12 -0700
        Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-03-31 13:10 -0700
    Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-30 13:49 +0000
      Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-31 09:21 +0000
        Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-31 07:05 -0400
        Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-03-31 14:06 +0000
      Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-31 09:09 -0400
    Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-31 12:57 -0400
      Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-31 13:55 -0400
        Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-31 21:50 -0400
          Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-31 22:59 -0400
          Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-01 08:45 -0400
            Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-01 18:00 -0400
              Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-01 20:17 -0400
                Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-06 22:19 -0400

#688433 — A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered

<https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>

Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular 
command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and 
signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.

Since 2022, Windows 11 has required both an internet connection and 
Microsoft Account when setting up a new PC. Naturally, not everybody 
wants this, and so workarounds and bypasses have been discovered.

The most popular bypass was "oobe\bypassnro" which, when typed into the 
command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience, would enable a 
button that let you skip connecting to the internet, thus bypassing the 
Microsoft Account requirement.

Microsoft has said that it is removing this command to push more users 
to connect to the internet and sign in with a Microsoft Account during 
the setup phase. Understandably, the internet is outraged.

While oobe\bypassnro is being removed, the actual registry entry that 
enables the button to skip connecting to the internet isn't, at least 
not yet. So you can still manually create the registry edit yourself, 
but that's a much longer and tedious process.

But fret not, as a new, perhaps better bypass has already been 
discovered that still uses the command prompt (which you can open with 
Shift + F10) and makes skipping the Microsoft Account sign-in step a 
total breeze.

Discovered by user @witherornot1337 on X, typing "start 
ms-cxh:localonly" into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup 
experience will allow you to create a local account directly without 
needing to skip connecting to the internet first.

The new bypass involves creating a local account via the older Windows 
10 interface. (Image credit: Windows Central)
The command will pop up an older, Windows 10 style interface that lets 
you specify a username and password for the local account. Then, 
clicking next will take you straight to preparing the desktop, before 
being asked to specify your privacy settings.

We tested this method on the latest Windows 11 preview build 26200 and 
can confirm that it works. It's a much more streamlined process compared 
to the old oobe\bypassnro method, which required the PC to restart and 
to slowly progress through the Windows 11 setup experience before 
landing on the desktop.

This new method doesn't require a restart and skips straight to the end 
of the setup experience, landing just at the point where Windows asks 
you to configure privacy settings. It's a win all around!

While this new workaround works for now, something tells me that 
Microsoft is likely going to crack down on these bypasses more often 
going forward. So, it's unknown how long this new bypass will work, so 
use it while you can!
-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#688437

On 3/30/25 4:24 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better- 
> microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>
> 
> Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular 
> command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and 
> signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.
> 
> Since 2022, Windows 11 has required both an internet connection and 
> Microsoft Account when setting up a new PC. Naturally, not everybody 
> wants this, and so workarounds and bypasses have been discovered.
> 
> The most popular bypass was "oobe\bypassnro" which, when typed into the 
> command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience, would enable a 
> button that let you skip connecting to the internet, thus bypassing the 
> Microsoft Account requirement.
> 
> Microsoft has said that it is removing this command to push more users 
> to connect to the internet and sign in with a Microsoft Account during 
> the setup phase. Understandably, the internet is outraged.
> 
> While oobe\bypassnro is being removed, the actual registry entry that 
> enables the button to skip connecting to the internet isn't, at least 
> not yet. So you can still manually create the registry edit yourself, 
> but that's a much longer and tedious process.
> 
> But fret not, as a new, perhaps better bypass has already been 
> discovered that still uses the command prompt (which you can open with 
> Shift + F10) and makes skipping the Microsoft Account sign-in step a 
> total breeze.
> 
> Discovered by user @witherornot1337 on X, typing "start ms- 
> cxh:localonly" into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup 
> experience will allow you to create a local account directly without 
> needing to skip connecting to the internet first.
> 
> The new bypass involves creating a local account via the older Windows 
> 10 interface. (Image credit: Windows Central)
> The command will pop up an older, Windows 10 style interface that lets 
> you specify a username and password for the local account. Then, 
> clicking next will take you straight to preparing the desktop, before 
> being asked to specify your privacy settings.
> 
> We tested this method on the latest Windows 11 preview build 26200 and 
> can confirm that it works. It's a much more streamlined process compared 
> to the old oobe\bypassnro method, which required the PC to restart and 
> to slowly progress through the Windows 11 setup experience before 
> landing on the desktop.
> 
> This new method doesn't require a restart and skips straight to the end 
> of the setup experience, landing just at the point where Windows asks 
> you to configure privacy settings. It's a win all around!
> 
> While this new workaround works for now, something tells me that 
> Microsoft is likely going to crack down on these bypasses more often 
> going forward. So, it's unknown how long this new bypass will work, so 
> use it while you can!


It is so, so much easier just to tell the installer that you
are on a domain.

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#688520 — Re: A new, potentially better Windows account bypass has been discovered

On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 05:00:54 -0700, T wrote:
> 
> It is so, so much easier just to tell the installer that you
> are on a domain.

And it doesn't check?

-- 
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA         https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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#688523

Stan Brown wrote on 3/31/2025 12:12 PM:
> On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 05:00:54 -0700, T wrote:
>>
>> It is so, so much easier just to tell the installer that you
>> are on a domain.
> 
> And it doesn't check?
> 
Using the domain method and not joining provides the ability to create a 
local account.
i.e. when setting up one chooses the work option , a subsequent screen 
provides Sign-in option to choose Domain Join, once chosen that is 
followed by another screen that provides the ability to setup a local 
account.
  - i.e. use the Domain Join option but don't join the domain by setting 
up a Local Account.

-- 
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ

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#688446

On 2025-03-30, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
><https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>
>
> Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular 
> command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and 
> signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.
>
> Since 2022, Windows 11 has required both an internet connection and 
> Microsoft Account when setting up a new PC. Naturally, not everybody 
> wants this, and so workarounds and bypasses have been discovered.
>
> The most popular bypass was "oobe\bypassnro" which, when typed into the 
> command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience, would enable a 
> button that let you skip connecting to the internet, thus bypassing the 
> Microsoft Account requirement.
>
> Microsoft has said that it is removing this command to push more users 
> to connect to the internet and sign in with a Microsoft Account during 
> the setup phase. Understandably, the internet is outraged.
>
> While oobe\bypassnro is being removed, the actual registry entry that 
> enables the button to skip connecting to the internet isn't, at least 
> not yet. So you can still manually create the registry edit yourself, 
> but that's a much longer and tedious process.
>
> But fret not, as a new, perhaps better bypass has already been 
> discovered that still uses the command prompt (which you can open with 
> Shift + F10) and makes skipping the Microsoft Account sign-in step a 
> total breeze.
>
> Discovered by user @witherornot1337 on X, typing "start 
> ms-cxh:localonly" into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup 
> experience will allow you to create a local account directly without 
> needing to skip connecting to the internet first.
>
> The new bypass involves creating a local account via the older Windows 
> 10 interface. (Image credit: Windows Central)
> The command will pop up an older, Windows 10 style interface that lets 
> you specify a username and password for the local account. Then, 
> clicking next will take you straight to preparing the desktop, before 
> being asked to specify your privacy settings.
>
> We tested this method on the latest Windows 11 preview build 26200 and 
> can confirm that it works. It's a much more streamlined process compared 
> to the old oobe\bypassnro method, which required the PC to restart and 
> to slowly progress through the Windows 11 setup experience before 
> landing on the desktop.
>
> This new method doesn't require a restart and skips straight to the end 
> of the setup experience, landing just at the point where Windows asks 
> you to configure privacy settings. It's a win all around!
>
> While this new workaround works for now, something tells me that 
> Microsoft is likely going to crack down on these bypasses more often 
> going forward. So, it's unknown how long this new bypass will work, so 
> use it while you can!

The oobe\bypassnro method is the only one that worked for me. That was a couple
of weeks ago. 
All the others, fake emails etc failed to work.

The easy solution is to install the professional version of Windows.
At least until they screw with that as well.



-- 
pothead
Liberalism Is A Mental Disease
Treat it accordingly
<https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-14512427/Doctors-reveal-symptoms-Trump-Derangement-Syndrome-tell-youve-got-it.html>

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#688499

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
On 2025-03-30, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
> On 2025-03-30, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>><https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>
>>
>> Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular 
>> command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and 
>> signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.
>>
>> Since 2022, Windows 11 has required both an internet connection and 
>> Microsoft Account when setting up a new PC. Naturally, not everybody 
>> wants this, and so workarounds and bypasses have been discovered.
>>
>> The most popular bypass was "oobe\bypassnro" which, when typed into the 
>> command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience, would enable a 
>> button that let you skip connecting to the internet, thus bypassing the 
>> Microsoft Account requirement.
>>
>> Microsoft has said that it is removing this command to push more users 
>> to connect to the internet and sign in with a Microsoft Account during 
>> the setup phase. Understandably, the internet is outraged.
>>
>> While oobe\bypassnro is being removed, the actual registry entry that 
>> enables the button to skip connecting to the internet isn't, at least 
>> not yet. So you can still manually create the registry edit yourself, 
>> but that's a much longer and tedious process.
>>
>> But fret not, as a new, perhaps better bypass has already been 
>> discovered that still uses the command prompt (which you can open with 
>> Shift + F10) and makes skipping the Microsoft Account sign-in step a 
>> total breeze.
>>
>> Discovered by user @witherornot1337 on X, typing "start 
>> ms-cxh:localonly" into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup 
>> experience will allow you to create a local account directly without 
>> needing to skip connecting to the internet first.
>>
>> The new bypass involves creating a local account via the older Windows 
>> 10 interface. (Image credit: Windows Central)
>> The command will pop up an older, Windows 10 style interface that lets 
>> you specify a username and password for the local account. Then, 
>> clicking next will take you straight to preparing the desktop, before 
>> being asked to specify your privacy settings.
>>
>> We tested this method on the latest Windows 11 preview build 26200 and 
>> can confirm that it works. It's a much more streamlined process compared 
>> to the old oobe\bypassnro method, which required the PC to restart and 
>> to slowly progress through the Windows 11 setup experience before 
>> landing on the desktop.
>>
>> This new method doesn't require a restart and skips straight to the end 
>> of the setup experience, landing just at the point where Windows asks 
>> you to configure privacy settings. It's a win all around!
>>
>> While this new workaround works for now, something tells me that 
>> Microsoft is likely going to crack down on these bypasses more often 
>> going forward. So, it's unknown how long this new bypass will work, so 
>> use it while you can!
>
> The oobe\bypassnro method is the only one that worked for me. That was a couple
> of weeks ago. 
> All the others, fake emails etc failed to work.
>
> The easy solution is to install the professional version of Windows.
> At least until they screw with that as well.
>
>
>

Which they will.  These workarounds is just backing yourself into a
corner.  They'll go further and further to lock you down, force you to
use their services and cajole you into computing as per THEIR vision.
No point trying to stay afloat a sinking ship.  Abandon Windows now.

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#688502

On Mon, 3/31/2025 5:21 AM, Borax Man wrote:
> ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.advocacy.]
> On 2025-03-30, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>> On 2025-03-30, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>
>>>
>>> Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular 
>>> command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and 
>>> signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.
>>>
>>> Since 2022, Windows 11 has required both an internet connection and 
>>> Microsoft Account when setting up a new PC. Naturally, not everybody 
>>> wants this, and so workarounds and bypasses have been discovered.
>>>
>>> The most popular bypass was "oobe\bypassnro" which, when typed into the 
>>> command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience, would enable a 
>>> button that let you skip connecting to the internet, thus bypassing the 
>>> Microsoft Account requirement.
>>>
>>> Microsoft has said that it is removing this command to push more users 
>>> to connect to the internet and sign in with a Microsoft Account during 
>>> the setup phase. Understandably, the internet is outraged.
>>>
>>> While oobe\bypassnro is being removed, the actual registry entry that 
>>> enables the button to skip connecting to the internet isn't, at least 
>>> not yet. So you can still manually create the registry edit yourself, 
>>> but that's a much longer and tedious process.
>>>
>>> But fret not, as a new, perhaps better bypass has already been 
>>> discovered that still uses the command prompt (which you can open with 
>>> Shift + F10) and makes skipping the Microsoft Account sign-in step a 
>>> total breeze.
>>>
>>> Discovered by user @witherornot1337 on X, typing "start 
>>> ms-cxh:localonly" into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup 
>>> experience will allow you to create a local account directly without 
>>> needing to skip connecting to the internet first.
>>>
>>> The new bypass involves creating a local account via the older Windows 
>>> 10 interface. (Image credit: Windows Central)
>>> The command will pop up an older, Windows 10 style interface that lets 
>>> you specify a username and password for the local account. Then, 
>>> clicking next will take you straight to preparing the desktop, before 
>>> being asked to specify your privacy settings.
>>>
>>> We tested this method on the latest Windows 11 preview build 26200 and 
>>> can confirm that it works. It's a much more streamlined process compared 
>>> to the old oobe\bypassnro method, which required the PC to restart and 
>>> to slowly progress through the Windows 11 setup experience before 
>>> landing on the desktop.
>>>
>>> This new method doesn't require a restart and skips straight to the end 
>>> of the setup experience, landing just at the point where Windows asks 
>>> you to configure privacy settings. It's a win all around!
>>>
>>> While this new workaround works for now, something tells me that 
>>> Microsoft is likely going to crack down on these bypasses more often 
>>> going forward. So, it's unknown how long this new bypass will work, so 
>>> use it while you can!
>>
>> The oobe\bypassnro method is the only one that worked for me. That was a couple
>> of weeks ago. 
>> All the others, fake emails etc failed to work.
>>
>> The easy solution is to install the professional version of Windows.
>> At least until they screw with that as well.
>>
>>
>>
> 
> Which they will.  These workarounds is just backing yourself into a
> corner.  They'll go further and further to lock you down, force you to
> use their services and cajole you into computing as per THEIR vision.
> No point trying to stay afloat a sinking ship.  Abandon Windows now.
> 

Computing still works. SuperPI 1.5xs is still as fast as it ever was :-)
6:53 for 32 million digits of PI. 16MB of L3. 4635 Mhz
6:30 for 32 million digits of PI. 64MB of L3. 5050 Mhz

One of the two machines has an MSA. Must be the slow one :-)

I used to compare the OSes on that benchmark, but the machine
I used to use for that died (blown southbridge), so I can no
longer compare them. I used to compare them from WinXP to Win10.
Maybe Windows 7 was a few seconds faster. But there was not a
progression of "our latest OS is our best OS".

Most of the Microsoft "tricks" and "ploys" are pointless, but
it makes them happy I guess. I don't find myself buying
"XBox GamePass?" just because a Notification popped up in my face.
I don't have an XBox, and it's hard to say how a single
notification would turn me into a "rental gamer". My last copy of
Microsoft Office here, was bought in 1999, when I was
still working. And I won't need an AI to help me write a ransom note.

"Clippy"
https://uncyclopedia.com/w/images/b/b3/Mainscreen1.jpg

   Paul

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#688510

On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 09:21:05 +0000, Borax Man wrote:


> 
> Which they will.  These workarounds is just backing yourself into a
> corner.  They'll go further and further to lock you down, force you to
> use their services and cajole you into computing as per THEIR vision.
> No point trying to stay afloat a sinking ship.  Abandon Windows now.
>

Ha, ha, ha, ha!

Do you actually think that the average Winblows user will care enough
to abandon the OS?

MicroSoft could demand their first-born children as part of the license
agreement and they would happily comply.

The sheepish Micro$oft user base will NEVER abandon ship.  NEVER.




-- 
Hail Linux!  Hail FOSS!  Hail Stallman!

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#688505

On 2025-03-30 09:49, pothead wrote:
> On 2025-03-30, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>
>>
>> Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular
>> command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and
>> signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.
>>
>> Since 2022, Windows 11 has required both an internet connection and
>> Microsoft Account when setting up a new PC. Naturally, not everybody
>> wants this, and so workarounds and bypasses have been discovered.
>>
>> The most popular bypass was "oobe\bypassnro" which, when typed into the
>> command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience, would enable a
>> button that let you skip connecting to the internet, thus bypassing the
>> Microsoft Account requirement.
>>
>> Microsoft has said that it is removing this command to push more users
>> to connect to the internet and sign in with a Microsoft Account during
>> the setup phase. Understandably, the internet is outraged.
>>
>> While oobe\bypassnro is being removed, the actual registry entry that
>> enables the button to skip connecting to the internet isn't, at least
>> not yet. So you can still manually create the registry edit yourself,
>> but that's a much longer and tedious process.
>>
>> But fret not, as a new, perhaps better bypass has already been
>> discovered that still uses the command prompt (which you can open with
>> Shift + F10) and makes skipping the Microsoft Account sign-in step a
>> total breeze.
>>
>> Discovered by user @witherornot1337 on X, typing "start
>> ms-cxh:localonly" into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup
>> experience will allow you to create a local account directly without
>> needing to skip connecting to the internet first.
>>
>> The new bypass involves creating a local account via the older Windows
>> 10 interface. (Image credit: Windows Central)
>> The command will pop up an older, Windows 10 style interface that lets
>> you specify a username and password for the local account. Then,
>> clicking next will take you straight to preparing the desktop, before
>> being asked to specify your privacy settings.
>>
>> We tested this method on the latest Windows 11 preview build 26200 and
>> can confirm that it works. It's a much more streamlined process compared
>> to the old oobe\bypassnro method, which required the PC to restart and
>> to slowly progress through the Windows 11 setup experience before
>> landing on the desktop.
>>
>> This new method doesn't require a restart and skips straight to the end
>> of the setup experience, landing just at the point where Windows asks
>> you to configure privacy settings. It's a win all around!
>>
>> While this new workaround works for now, something tells me that
>> Microsoft is likely going to crack down on these bypasses more often
>> going forward. So, it's unknown how long this new bypass will work, so
>> use it while you can!
> 
> The oobe\bypassnro method is the only one that worked for me. That was a couple
> of weeks ago.
> All the others, fake emails etc failed to work.
> 
> The easy solution is to install the professional version of Windows.
> At least until they screw with that as well.

Installing the Professional version is the solution if you actually 
purchased the Professional ISO in box. Otherwise, when you download the 
ISO from the web, it behaves like the Home edition and doesn't even give 
you the option to bypass that stuff. For example, I have a key of 10 Pro 
that I bought. If I don't mind going through 10 first, I can bypass the 
Microsoft account requirement. Otherwise, I have to rely on the web ISO 
which doesn't grant me that luxury.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#688513

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 30 Mar 2025 07:24:19 -0400,
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

><https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>
>
>Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular 
>command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and 
>signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.

I don't understand this thread.  I just bought a refurbished win11
laptop and it works, and I've never signed in to a microsoft account.  I
don't remember if I have one, and I don't know what the uid and password
would be.   I don't think it's even asked me to sign in.  Is it using
the refurbisher's account? 

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#688516

On 2025-03-31 12:57, micky wrote:
> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 30 Mar 2025 07:24:19 -0400,
> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> 
>> <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>
>>
>> Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular
>> command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and
>> signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.
> 
> I don't understand this thread.  I just bought a refurbished win11
> laptop and it works, and I've never signed in to a microsoft account.  I
> don't remember if I have one, and I don't know what the uid and password
> would be.   I don't think it's even asked me to sign in.  Is it using
> the refurbisher's account?

If it was already set up for you and you're using it that way, then yes, 
you're probably using his or her Microsoft account. You can confirm by 
going to Settings - Accounts and determining whether it is set up as a 
local account or not.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#688534

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:55:09 -0400,
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

>On 2025-03-31 12:57, micky wrote:
>> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 30 Mar 2025 07:24:19 -0400,
>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> 
>>> <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>
>>>
>>> Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular
>>> command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and
>>> signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.
>> 
>> I don't understand this thread.  I just bought a refurbished win11
>> laptop and it works, and I've never signed in to a microsoft account.  I
>> don't remember if I have one, and I don't know what the uid and password
>> would be.   I don't think it's even asked me to sign in.  Is it using
>> the refurbisher's account?
>
>If it was already set up for you and you're using it that way, then yes, 
>you're probably using his or her Microsoft account. You can confirm by 
>going to Settings - Accounts and determining whether it is set up as a 
>local account or not.

So if someone wants to avoid logging into a his MS account, why can't he
look at my computer or another refurbished one, and copy the account
information from there.  Apparently the refurbisher does care that I'm
using it.  HE didn't tell me to replace it?  So maybe he doesnt' mind if
everyone uses it. 

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#688537

On Mon, 3/31/2025 9:50 PM, micky wrote:
> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:55:09 -0400,
> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-03-31 12:57, micky wrote:
>>> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 30 Mar 2025 07:24:19 -0400,
>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>
>>>>
>>>> Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular
>>>> command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and
>>>> signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.
>>>
>>> I don't understand this thread.  I just bought a refurbished win11
>>> laptop and it works, and I've never signed in to a microsoft account.  I
>>> don't remember if I have one, and I don't know what the uid and password
>>> would be.   I don't think it's even asked me to sign in.  Is it using
>>> the refurbisher's account?
>>
>> If it was already set up for you and you're using it that way, then yes, 
>> you're probably using his or her Microsoft account. You can confirm by 
>> going to Settings - Accounts and determining whether it is set up as a 
>> local account or not.
> 
> So if someone wants to avoid logging into a his MS account, why can't he
> look at my computer or another refurbished one, and copy the account
> information from there.  Apparently the refurbisher does care that I'm
> using it.  HE didn't tell me to replace it?  So maybe he doesnt' mind if
> everyone uses it. 
> 

If you go to Start : Run and enter

   control.exe

then select

   User Accounts

then

   Manage Another Account

what does it show for account listings ?

For example, mine has one MSA (with email address) and two local accounts.
The local accounts help with file sharing.

   Paul

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#688546

On 2025-03-31 21:50, micky wrote:
> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:55:09 -0400,
> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-03-31 12:57, micky wrote:
>>> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 30 Mar 2025 07:24:19 -0400,
>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>
>>>>
>>>> Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular
>>>> command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and
>>>> signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.
>>>
>>> I don't understand this thread.  I just bought a refurbished win11
>>> laptop and it works, and I've never signed in to a microsoft account.  I
>>> don't remember if I have one, and I don't know what the uid and password
>>> would be.   I don't think it's even asked me to sign in.  Is it using
>>> the refurbisher's account?
>>
>> If it was already set up for you and you're using it that way, then yes,
>> you're probably using his or her Microsoft account. You can confirm by
>> going to Settings - Accounts and determining whether it is set up as a
>> local account or not.
> 
> So if someone wants to avoid logging into a his MS account, why can't he
> look at my computer or another refurbished one, and copy the account
> information from there.  Apparently the refurbisher does care that I'm
> using it.  HE didn't tell me to replace it?  So maybe he doesnt' mind if
> everyone uses it.

To be fair, a refurbisher probably isn't that much of an idiot. At the 
worst, I'd assume that he installed the system using a Microsoft 
account, then created a new Administrator account that's local, and 
deleted the initial account.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#688565

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:55:09 -0400,
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:


>On 2025-03-31 12:57, micky wrote:
>> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 30 Mar 2025 07:24:19 -0400,
>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> 
>>> <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>
>>>
>>> Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular
>>> command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and
>>> signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.
>> 
>> I don't understand this thread.  I just bought a refurbished win11
>> laptop and it works, and I've never signed in to a microsoft account.  I
>> don't remember if I have one, and I don't know what the uid and password
>> would be.   I don't think it's even asked me to sign in.  Is it using
>> the refurbisher's account?
>
>If it was already set up for you and you're using it that way, then yes, 
>you're probably using his or her Microsoft account. You can confirm by 
>going to Settings - Accounts and determining whether it is set up as a 
>local account or not.

Great.  I looked at it in the new computer and it suggests I sign in. I
looked for my MS login but I don't seem to have recorded it.  Now I
remember. I've been  using whatever I used for Skype, but I don't have
that recorded either. But I started Skype** that reminded me. 

I'm not logged in to my current computers either. 

It says it will sync the various computers, but I don't think I want
that.   Can I assume it's ooptional? 

It encourages me to log in by saying I can use it for "your Windows pc,
Xbox console, or any of Microsoft’s products and services, including
Office, Outlook.com, OneDrive, Xbox Live, Microsoft 365, Family Safety,
Skype, Bing, Microsoft Store and MSN."
 
I don't think I need it for Bing.  
I should probably use OneDrive but I still don't.   
And I think I once used the Microsoft store (to get Powertoys I think)
And when I was abroad a few years ago I used Skype a lot, but whatsapp
has mostly replaced it. 


**It's a good thing I started Skype.  It told me that Skype will end in
May and I should migrate to Teams. So I did.  
Did it that take my old chats with it?  Only 5 of 35! 
Did it take my contacts, only 35 of 53! 
Did it take my $12 credit with it?  No mention of that.  Even if so, I
dont' see how I'll ever use it up as long as whatsapp exists, Skype
would call any number, not just a cell phone***, but at 2 cents a
minute, it would take 600 minutes, 10 hours. 

***And one of my best friends has a cellphone, but he only takes
cruises, with hia wife, no parents or children, so he doesn't call
anyone when he's away, and doesn't have Whatsapp.  When I wanted to make
a video call to him, I had to settle for a voice call, but I think my
Guatamala SIM included calls to the US, so it was free iirc. 

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#688568

On 2025-04-01 6:00 p.m., micky wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:55:09 -0400,
> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 2025-03-31 12:57, micky wrote:
>>> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 30 Mar 2025 07:24:19 -0400,
>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered>
>>>>
>>>> Earlier this week, Microsoft announced that it was removing a popular
>>>> command line that allowed users to bypass connecting to the internet and
>>>> signing into a Microsoft Account during the setup phase on Windows 11.
>>>
>>> I don't understand this thread.  I just bought a refurbished win11
>>> laptop and it works, and I've never signed in to a microsoft account.  I
>>> don't remember if I have one, and I don't know what the uid and password
>>> would be.   I don't think it's even asked me to sign in.  Is it using
>>> the refurbisher's account?
>>
>> If it was already set up for you and you're using it that way, then yes,
>> you're probably using his or her Microsoft account. You can confirm by
>> going to Settings - Accounts and determining whether it is set up as a
>> local account or not.
> 
> Great.  I looked at it in the new computer and it suggests I sign in. I
> looked for my MS login but I don't seem to have recorded it.  Now I
> remember. I've been  using whatever I used for Skype, but I don't have
> that recorded either. But I started Skype** that reminded me.
> 
> I'm not logged in to my current computers either.
> 
> It says it will sync the various computers, but I don't think I want
> that.   Can I assume it's ooptional?
> 
> It encourages me to log in by saying I can use it for "your Windows pc,
> Xbox console, or any of Microsoft’s products and services, including
> Office, Outlook.com, OneDrive, Xbox Live, Microsoft 365, Family Safety,
> Skype, Bing, Microsoft Store and MSN."
>   
> I don't think I need it for Bing.
> I should probably use OneDrive but I still don't.
> And I think I once used the Microsoft store (to get Powertoys I think)
> And when I was abroad a few years ago I used Skype a lot, but whatsapp
> has mostly replaced it.
> 
> 
> **It's a good thing I started Skype.  It told me that Skype will end in
> May and I should migrate to Teams. So I did.
> Did it that take my old chats with it?  Only 5 of 35!
> Did it take my contacts, only 35 of 53!
> Did it take my $12 credit with it?  No mention of that.  Even if so, I
> dont' see how I'll ever use it up as long as whatsapp exists, Skype
> would call any number, not just a cell phone***, but at 2 cents a
> minute, it would take 600 minutes, 10 hours.
> 
> ***And one of my best friends has a cellphone, but he only takes
> cruises, with hia wife, no parents or children, so he doesn't call
> anyone when he's away, and doesn't have Whatsapp.  When I wanted to make
> a video call to him, I had to settle for a voice call, but I think my
> Guatamala SIM included calls to the US, so it was free iirc.

There are definitely advantages to signing in if you use more than one 
computer and want to sync your personal files across all of them, but 
not everyone wants that. Operating systems should be private by default 
with the user being given the choice to install additional components 
which do what logging in does.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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#688738

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Tue, 1 Apr 2025 20:17:59 -0400,
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:

>On 2025-04-01 6:00 p.m., micky wrote:
>> 
>> **It's a good thing I started Skype.  It told me that Skype will end in
>> May and I should migrate to Teams. So I did.
>> Did it that take my old chats with it?  Only 5 of 35!

Loads of those not copied were scam video sessions, from phoney gold,
bitcoin and investment spammers.   Probably only 5 real ones. 

>> Did it take my contacts, only 35 of 53!

Almost all of these look valuable.  But I'm not deleting Skype so I can
recreate the numbers when I want to call someone, or I can find whatever
old info I need, at least until I stop copying its data to the later
computers 

>> Did it take my $12 credit with it?  No mention of that.  Even if so, I

No mention of that. 

>There are definitely advantages to signing in if you use more than one 
>computer and want to sync your personal files across all of them, but 
>not everyone wants that. Operating systems should be private by default 
>with the user being given the choice to install additional components 
>which do what logging in does.

You're right. 

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