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Another day

Started by"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
First post2016-08-22 20:04 +0000
Last post2016-08-25 08:38 -0400
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  Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-22 20:04 +0000
    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-22 13:35 -0700
      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-22 20:47 +0000
        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-22 13:51 -0700
          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-22 21:07 +0000
            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-22 14:16 -0700
              Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-22 21:32 +0000
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-22 14:38 -0700
                  Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-22 22:04 +0000
                    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-22 15:22 -0700
                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-22 23:00 +0000
                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-22 16:13 -0700
                          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 16:00 +0000
                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 09:11 -0700
                              Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 16:22 +0000
                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 09:37 -0700
                                  Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 16:54 +0000
                                    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 10:14 -0700
                                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 17:21 +0000
                                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 10:29 -0700
                                          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 17:43 +0000
                                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 11:03 -0700
                                    Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 09:51 -0400
                                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 14:17 +0000
                                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 09:05 -0700
                                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 11:51 -0600
                                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 11:01 -0700
                                              Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 18:27 +0000
                                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 11:46 -0700
                                                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 21:17 -0600
                                                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 10:07 -0400
                                                  Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 09:41 -0700
                                                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 20:06 -0400
                                                  Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 00:13 +0000
                                                    Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 20:33 -0400
                                                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 01:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 08:14 -0400
                                                  Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 17:26 -0700
                                                  Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 08:10 -0400
                                                    Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-26 09:07 -0400
                                                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 13:37 +0000
                                                        Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-26 09:56 -0400
                                                          Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 10:42 -0400
                                                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 08:23 -0700
                                                          Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 08:29 -0700
                                                        Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 10:41 -0400
                                                          Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 08:23 -0700
                                                            Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 09:17 -0700
                                                              Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 13:08 -0400
                                                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 10:17 -0700
                                                    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 08:32 -0700
                                                      Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-26 09:24 -0700
                                                        Re: Another day chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-26 11:27 -0500
                                                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 11:36 -0600
                                                            Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 13:45 -0400
                                                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 13:52 -0600
                                                                Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-26 13:43 -0700
                                                                  Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 17:18 -0400
                                                                    Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-26 14:39 -0700
                                                                      Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 18:42 -0400
                                                                        Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-26 17:24 -0700
                                                                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-27 00:09 +0000
                                                                        Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-26 17:33 -0700
                                                                        Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 12:29 -0600
                                                                          Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 12:08 -0700
                                                                            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 18:26 -0600
                                                                      Re: Another day ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-08-27 04:21 +0000
                                                                        Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-26 21:46 -0700
                                                                          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-27 05:15 +0000
                                                                            Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-27 05:42 +0000
                                                                              Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 00:07 -0700
                                                                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 12:30 -0600
                                                                            Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 12:09 -0700
                                                                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 18:27 -0600
                                                                                Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 19:06 -0700
                                                                        Re: Another day Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-08-27 09:20 +0200
                                                                          Re: Another day Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-08-27 10:04 +0200
                                                                            Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 01:06 -0700
                                                                              Re: Another day Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-08-27 10:23 +0200
                                                                                Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 01:39 -0700
                                                                          Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 01:09 -0700
                                                                            Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 01:27 -0700
                                                                          Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-27 15:10 -0400
                                                                            Re: Another day Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-08-27 21:58 +0200
                                                                              Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 13:17 -0700
                                                                                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 18:28 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 19:15 -0700
                                                                                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-28 09:38 -0400
                                                                              Re: Another day Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-08-27 22:22 +0200
                                                                                Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 13:37 -0700
                                                                                Re: Another day Andy Rains <andyrains@myself.com> - 2016-08-27 19:10 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Another day ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-08-28 03:20 +0000
                                                                              Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-28 09:35 -0400
                                                                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-28 09:16 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-28 10:03 -0700
                                                                        Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-27 15:02 -0400
                                                                  Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 16:19 -0600
                                                                    Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-26 15:34 -0700
                                                                      Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 19:03 -0400
                                                                        Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 12:28 -0600
                                                                      Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 12:27 -0600
                                                                        Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 12:06 -0700
                                                                          Re: Another day -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-27 15:30 -0700
                                                                            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 18:20 -0600
                                                                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 18:24 -0600
                                                                            Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 19:01 -0700
                                                                              Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 19:42 -0700
                                                                                Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-28 07:39 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Another day William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-08-28 16:22 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-28 09:50 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Another day Andy Rains <andyrains@myself.com> - 2016-08-28 15:29 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Another day ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-08-28 20:16 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Another day Andy Rains <andyrains@myself.com> - 2016-08-28 17:40 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Another day Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2016-08-28 15:14 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Another day Andy Rains <andyrains@myself.com> - 2016-08-28 18:19 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-28 16:18 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Another day Andy Rains <andyrains@myself.com> - 2016-08-28 19:40 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-28 16:42 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: Another day Andy Rains <andyrains@myself.com> - 2016-08-28 19:44 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-28 16:56 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Another day Andy Rains <andyrains@myself.com> - 2016-08-28 19:59 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Another day Andy Rains <andyrains@myself.com> - 2016-08-28 18:16 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-28 09:08 -0700
                                                                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-28 09:17 -0700
                                                                                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-29 09:06 -0400
                                                                              Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-28 09:42 -0400
                                                                                Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-28 08:12 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-28 11:50 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-28 10:00 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-28 19:22 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-28 16:57 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Another day Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-08-29 18:39 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-29 15:43 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Another day ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 23:12 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Another day ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 23:15 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-29 17:09 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Another day Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-08-29 20:52 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-29 18:13 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-29 19:34 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Another day Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-30 01:49 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Another day Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-30 01:46 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-29 17:21 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Another day Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-30 02:26 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-29 17:33 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-30 09:16 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Another day Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-30 15:26 +0200
                                                                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-28 12:38 -0600
                                                                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 17:16 -0400
                                                                  Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-26 14:23 -0700
                                                                    Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 16:20 -0600
                                                                      Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-26 15:35 -0700
                                                                    Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 18:38 -0400
                                                                      Re: Another day Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-08-27 01:50 +0200
                                                                        Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 20:13 -0400
                                                                          Re: Another day Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-08-27 09:19 +0200
                                                                            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 12:35 -0600
                                                                              Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-27 12:15 -0700
                                                                                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-29 11:02 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Another day Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-29 08:08 -0700
                                                                            Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-27 15:10 -0400
                                                                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 16:21 -0600
                                                        Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 09:36 -0700
                                                          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 16:43 +0000
                                                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 10:00 -0700
                                                              Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 17:08 +0000
                                                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 10:16 -0700
                                                                  Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 17:32 +0000
                                                                    Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 10:39 -0700
                                                                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 18:04 +0000
                                                                    Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 13:39 -0400
                                                                      Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 10:53 -0700
                                                                        Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 14:26 -0400
                                                                          Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 12:23 -0700
                                                                    Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 18:06 +0000
                                                                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 19:11 +0000
                                                            Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 13:22 -0400
                                                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 10:11 -0700
                                                          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 17:29 +0000
                                                            Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 18:12 +0000
                                                              Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 19:19 +0000
                                                          Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 10:33 -0700
                                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 21:20 -0600
                                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 21:27 -0700
                                                  Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 14:04 -0600
                                                    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 13:07 -0700
                                                      Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 18:00 -0600
                                                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:18 -0700
                                                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 23:40 -0600
                                                            Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 08:26 -0400
                                                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 08:37 -0700
                                                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 11:42 -0600
                                      Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 11:49 -0600
                                        Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 14:08 -0400
                                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 21:18 -0600
                                      Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 09:47 -0400
          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 12:00 -0600
            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 11:13 -0700
              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 15:57 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 15:16 -0700
                  Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 22:31 +0000
                    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 15:44 -0700
                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 23:00 +0000
                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 16:07 -0700
                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:25 -0600
                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 21:40 -0700
                      Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:22 -0600
                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 21:39 -0700
                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 11:59 -0600
                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 11:41 -0700
                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 21:14 -0600
                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 20:50 -0700
                                  Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 12:39 -0600
                                    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 12:07 -0700
                                      Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 17:44 -0600
                                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:17 -0700
                    Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-23 20:07 -0400
                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 01:02 +0000
                        Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 09:59 -0400
                          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 14:25 +0000
                            Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 10:58 -0400
                              Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 15:16 +0000
                  Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:16 -0600
                    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 21:34 -0700
                      Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:09 -0600
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-23 20:08 -0400
                  Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 01:10 +0000
                  Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:28 -0600
                    Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 10:12 -0400
                      Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 09:03 -0700
                        Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:20 -0600
                          Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 11:41 -0700
                            Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 12:29 -0700
                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 13:55 -0600
                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:11 -0700
                                  Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 13:20 -0700
                                    Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 20:33 +0000
                                      Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:45 -0700
                                        Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 20:50 +0000
                                          Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 14:02 -0700
                            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 13:54 -0600
                              Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:10 -0700
                      Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:19 -0600
                  Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 09:32 -0400
                    Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 10:54 -0400
                      Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 11:08 -0400
                        Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 12:03 -0400
                          Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 12:47 -0400
                      Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 12:19 -0600
      Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 11:59 -0600
        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 11:16 -0700
          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 15:59 -0600
            Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-23 22:13 +0000
              Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 15:18 -0700
              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:29 -0600
            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-23 15:14 -0700
              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:33 -0600
                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 07:56 -0700
                  Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:23 -0600
                    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 11:43 -0700
                      Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 13:53 -0600
                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:10 -0700
                          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 20:22 +0000
                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:26 -0700
                              Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 20:36 +0000
                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:46 -0700
                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 20:58 -0600
                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 20:14 -0700
                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 12:18 -0600
            Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-23 20:47 -0400
              Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 01:24 +0000
                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:48 -0600
                  Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 05:06 +0000
                    Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:27 -0600
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 10:24 -0400
                  Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 14:34 +0000
                    Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 10:58 -0400
                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 15:14 +0000
                        Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:30 -0600
                      Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 10:00 -0400
                  Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 08:58 -0700
                    Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 09:24 -0700
                      Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:31 -0600
                        Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 12:16 -0700
                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 13:51 -0600
                            Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 13:17 -0700
                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 20:56 -0600
                                Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 20:33 -0700
                                  Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 12:16 -0600
                    Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:30 -0600
                      Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 11:49 -0700
                        Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 13:48 -0600
                          Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:09 -0700
                            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 20:55 -0600
                              Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 20:13 -0700
                                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 12:15 -0600
                                  Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 11:44 -0700
                                    Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 17:22 -0600
                                      Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 17:48 -0700
                                      Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 07:57 -0400
                                        Re: Another day -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-26 06:41 -0700
                                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 11:35 -0600
                                            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 13:51 -0600
                                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 16:17 -0600
                                            Re: Another day Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 13:03 -0700
                                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 08:36 -0700
                                          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 16:09 +0000
                                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 09:27 -0700
                                        Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 11:33 -0600
                                          Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 13:44 -0400
                                            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 13:44 -0600
                                              Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 17:14 -0400
                                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 16:10 -0600
                                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 13:48 -0600
                                            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 16:16 -0600
                                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-27 12:24 -0600
                  Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:28 -0600
                  Re: Another day Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-08-25 07:10 -0400
              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-23 22:46 -0600
                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-24 09:58 -0400
                  Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 14:28 +0000
                    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 08:54 -0700
                      Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 13:47 -0600
                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 13:08 -0700
                          Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 20:45 -0600
                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-24 20:03 -0700
                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 12:00 -0600
                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 11:12 -0700
                                  Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 17:09 -0600
                                    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 17:37 -0700
                                Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 14:50 -0400
                                  Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 17:07 -0600
                                    Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 19:23 -0400
                                      Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:25 -0700
                            Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 10:44 -0400
                              Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 09:47 -0700
                                Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 11:58 -0600
                                  Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 11:04 -0700
                                    Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 17:05 -0600
                                      Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 17:37 -0700
                                        Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 23:38 -0600
                                          Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 08:39 -0700
                                            Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 11:26 -0600
                                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-26 13:42 -0600
                                  Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 14:47 -0400
                                    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 11:53 -0700
                                    Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 17:04 -0600
                                      Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 19:20 -0400
                                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:24 -0700
                                      Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 17:36 -0700
                                        Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 23:37 -0600
                                          Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-26 07:53 -0700
                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 11:56 -0600
                            Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 11:04 -0400
                              Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 11:53 -0600
                                Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 19:16 -0400
                                  Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-25 23:22 +0000
                                    Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 19:24 -0400
                                      Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-25 23:37 +0000
                                        Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:26 -0700
                                          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 02:51 +0000
                                            Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 22:54 -0400
                                              Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 19:59 -0700
                                              Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 03:01 +0000
                                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 21:19 -0700
                                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 19:56 -0700
                                              Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 03:00 +0000
                                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 20:31 -0700
                                        Re: Another day DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-25 22:29 -0400
                                          Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 02:50 +0000
                                            Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 19:57 -0700
                                              Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-26 03:04 +0000
                                                Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 20:31 -0700
                                          Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 08:22 -0400
                                      Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-26 07:58 -0400
                                    Re: Another day Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-25 18:26 -0700
                    Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:44 -0600
                  Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-24 12:43 -0600
                    Re: Another day "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-24 19:15 +0000
                    Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 10:19 -0400
                      Re: Another day GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-08-25 11:51 -0600
                        Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 14:42 -0400
    Re: Another day Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-08-25 08:38 -0400

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#367171

FromMarek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
Date2016-08-26 17:24 -0700
Message-ID<WMGdnWP_9edYQF3KnZ2dnUU7-Q2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#367152
On 2016-08-26, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
> On 2016-08-26 5:39 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>> On 2016-08-26, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>> On 2016-08-26 4:43 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>> On 2016-08-26, GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>>>> Silver Slimer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2016-08-26 1:36 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2016-08-26, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *thead plonk*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fuck off, moron.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I find it sad that chrisv appears to see himself as some sort of moral
>>>>>> authority here and also appears to believe that his approval is
>>>>>> necessary. I've been here a long enough time and have yet to see a
>>>>>> single informative post from the guy.
>>>>>>
>>>>> He even still uses windows XP to post with... yet he says that he is moral
>>>>> and honest and doesn't use Linux and probably doesn't even know how to
>>>>> install linux.
>>>>
>>>> There was a guy in my main group who went off on anyone and everyone and
>>>> he too posted with a non-linux client. Personally, I don't get what's
>>>> wrong with slrn. As far as I am concerned it is perfect. But each to
>>>> their own.
>>>
>>> I have yet to use slrn myself but I have to admit that I have a fondess
>>> for applications that work in the CLI (probably as a result of being
>>> forced to use a 286-10 and a 386-16 during an extra where both machines
>>> were obsolete). I'm just wondering what the benefit of it is over
>>> something like Pan.
>>
>> PAN!!!  I think I'm having another pulmonary event!! I don't see the
>> appeal of PAN at all. Frankly, I think it's crap. I like Tin and SLRN,
>> and I wouldn't mind too much taking a crack at gnus, but I'm a Vim guy
>> not an emacs guy so I don't see the point.
>>
>> So text mode for a usenet client in my opinion is perfect. It's very
>> readable. If you want to share code via usenet I think it is much better
>> to do so with a console based app, and if a GUI is used then at least
>> use a terminal font.
>>
>> SLRN is very fast. And you might think PAN is fast, but it's not fast
>> compared to slrn. A console app like this is extremely fast compared to
>> something like PAN.
>>
>> I can run this easily through an SSH session. So even though I have
>> quite a few machines, I just SSH into one machine and run it from that
>> SSH session. I use tmux to multiplex that session which means I can
>> leave it running and disconnect and reconnect to that session. I can
>> even connect multiple times from multiple machines to that same session.
>>
>> Example:
>>
>> I might be typing up something technical, but I have to leave my current
>> location. I detach this session running SLRN and shut my machine down.
>> The slrn session and my post are still in edit mode, still running. I'm
>> simply no longer attached to it. When I get to my next destination, I
>> turn on a different machine, SSH into my SSH server, and then attach to
>> that running session. And then I simple resume typing whatever I was
>> typing.
>>
>> slrn lets me choose the editor. So I am typing this in Vim. It's
>> completely transparent. When I compose a message, that comp is simply in
>> Vim. So all the features, the status bar, macros, etc that I have in Vim
>> are present.
>>
>> Vim let's me run external commands and the stdout is read into the Vim
>> buffer. So for example I could type :r !uname -r
>>
>> Linux main 4.4.0-34-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 27 16:06:39 UTC
>> 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>
>> And you can see here that the results of that command have been pulled
>> into the text I am typing. I can pull code into this buffer, command
>> output, etc. I don't need to copy and paste. I can just redirect.
>>
>> So it's not like Pan. It's more. Very flexible.
>
> I like any application which allows me to do everything that I want 
> without using the mouse at all. I find that even using things like Alt-F 
> and then moving down to the option you want is too cumbersome. If 
> absolutely every feature in slrn is available to me through a 
> combination of keystrokes and allows modification of any kind through 
> the use of a combination of keys on the keyboard and nothing else, it's 
> got my attention.

Give it a shot. Ask questions if you get stuck. It might be weird at
first. I'd opine it is best if you're a console jockey, which I am. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#367164

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-08-27 00:09 +0000
Message-ID<hjgadfli83.rf@perch.invalid>
In reply to#367136
Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:
> On 2016-08-26, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>> On 2016-08-26 4:43 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>> On 2016-08-26, GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>>> Silver Slimer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2016-08-26 1:36 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2016-08-26, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *thead plonk*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fuck off, moron.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find it sad that chrisv appears to see himself as some sort of moral
>>>>> authority here and also appears to believe that his approval is
>>>>> necessary. I've been here a long enough time and have yet to see a
>>>>> single informative post from the guy.
>>>>>
>>>> He even still uses windows XP to post with... yet he says that he is moral
>>>> and honest and doesn't use Linux and probably doesn't even know how to
>>>> install linux.
>>>
>>> There was a guy in my main group who went off on anyone and everyone and
>>> he too posted with a non-linux client. Personally, I don't get what's
>>> wrong with slrn. As far as I am concerned it is perfect. But each to
>>> their own.
>>
>> I have yet to use slrn myself but I have to admit that I have a fondess 
>> for applications that work in the CLI (probably as a result of being 
>> forced to use a 286-10 and a 386-16 during an extra where both machines 
>> were obsolete). I'm just wondering what the benefit of it is over 
>> something like Pan.
> 
> PAN!!!  I think I'm having another pulmonary event!! I don't see the
> appeal of PAN at all. Frankly, I think it's crap. I like Tin and SLRN,
> and I wouldn't mind too much taking a crack at gnus, but I'm a Vim guy
> not an emacs guy so I don't see the point. 
> 
> So text mode for a usenet client in my opinion is perfect. It's very
> readable. If you want to share code via usenet I think it is much better
> to do so with a console based app, and if a GUI is used then at least
> use a terminal font. 
> 
> SLRN is very fast. And you might think PAN is fast, but it's not fast
> compared to slrn. A console app like this is extremely fast compared to
> something like PAN. 
> 
> I can run this easily through an SSH session. So even though I have
> quite a few machines, I just SSH into one machine and run it from that
> SSH session. I use tmux to multiplex that session which means I can
> leave it running and disconnect and reconnect to that session. I can
> even connect multiple times from multiple machines to that same session. 
> 
> Example:
> 
> I might be typing up something technical, but I have to leave my current
> location. I detach this session running SLRN and shut my machine down.
> The slrn session and my post are still in edit mode, still running. I'm
> simply no longer attached to it. When I get to my next destination, I
> turn on a different machine, SSH into my SSH server, and then attach to
> that running session. And then I simple resume typing whatever I was
> typing. 
> 
> slrn lets me choose the editor. So I am typing this in Vim. It's
> completely transparent. When I compose a message, that comp is simply in
> Vim. So all the features, the status bar, macros, etc that I have in Vim
> are present. 
> 
> Vim let's me run external commands and the stdout is read into the Vim
> buffer. So for example I could type :r !uname -r
> 
> Linux main 4.4.0-34-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 27 16:06:39 UTC 
> 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> And you can see here that the results of that command have been pulled
> into the text I am typing. I can pull code into this buffer, command
> output, etc. I don't need to copy and paste. I can just redirect. 
> 
> So it's not like Pan. It's more. Very flexible. 
> 

All of the above applies to tin as well.  I've used tin forever and
don't really like anything else.  I had to hop onto slrn at one point
for a brief time.  No real complaints except that adding custom headers
was a tad more painful, with all the 'set custom_headers "...\n...\n"'.
With tin you just add whatever header lines you want to the file
.tin/headers.   Keeping header files for multiple soc^H^H^HIDs is
then easy.

anon@lowtide:~$ cat .tin/headers
From: "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
NNTP-Posting-Host: common.perch.invalid
Organization: O.W.L.
Message-ID: <@perch.invalid>
anon@lowtide:~$ 

anon@lowtide:~$ cat .tin/skankman.headers
From: skankman <skankman@skankman.invalid>
NNTP-Posting-Host: news.skankman.invalid
Organization: skankman
Message-ID: <@skankman.invalid>
anon@lowtide:~$ 

anon@lowtide:~$ cat .tin/flabby.headers
From: flabby <flabby@flabby.invalid>
NNTP-Posting-Host: news.flabby.invalid
Organization: flabby
Message-ID: <@flabby.invalid>
anon@lowtide:~$ 

anon@lowtide:~$ ls .tin/*.headers |wc -l
27
anon@lowtide:~$ 

Oh my.

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#367172

FromMarek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
Date2016-08-26 17:33 -0700
Message-ID<vYidnecvY_98Ql3KnZ2dnUU7-KnNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#367164
On 2016-08-27, Octavian W. Lagrange <olagrang@perch.invalid> wrote:
> Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:
>> On 2016-08-26, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>> On 2016-08-26 4:43 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>> On 2016-08-26, GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>>>> Silver Slimer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2016-08-26 1:36 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2016-08-26, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *thead plonk*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fuck off, moron.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I find it sad that chrisv appears to see himself as some sort of moral
>>>>>> authority here and also appears to believe that his approval is
>>>>>> necessary. I've been here a long enough time and have yet to see a
>>>>>> single informative post from the guy.
>>>>>>
>>>>> He even still uses windows XP to post with... yet he says that he is moral
>>>>> and honest and doesn't use Linux and probably doesn't even know how to
>>>>> install linux.
>>>>
>>>> There was a guy in my main group who went off on anyone and everyone and
>>>> he too posted with a non-linux client. Personally, I don't get what's
>>>> wrong with slrn. As far as I am concerned it is perfect. But each to
>>>> their own.
>>>
>>> I have yet to use slrn myself but I have to admit that I have a fondess 
>>> for applications that work in the CLI (probably as a result of being 
>>> forced to use a 286-10 and a 386-16 during an extra where both machines 
>>> were obsolete). I'm just wondering what the benefit of it is over 
>>> something like Pan.
>> 
>> PAN!!!  I think I'm having another pulmonary event!! I don't see the
>> appeal of PAN at all. Frankly, I think it's crap. I like Tin and SLRN,
>> and I wouldn't mind too much taking a crack at gnus, but I'm a Vim guy
>> not an emacs guy so I don't see the point. 
>> 
>> So text mode for a usenet client in my opinion is perfect. It's very
>> readable. If you want to share code via usenet I think it is much better
>> to do so with a console based app, and if a GUI is used then at least
>> use a terminal font. 
>> 
>> SLRN is very fast. And you might think PAN is fast, but it's not fast
>> compared to slrn. A console app like this is extremely fast compared to
>> something like PAN. 
>> 
>> I can run this easily through an SSH session. So even though I have
>> quite a few machines, I just SSH into one machine and run it from that
>> SSH session. I use tmux to multiplex that session which means I can
>> leave it running and disconnect and reconnect to that session. I can
>> even connect multiple times from multiple machines to that same session. 
>> 
>> Example:
>> 
>> I might be typing up something technical, but I have to leave my current
>> location. I detach this session running SLRN and shut my machine down.
>> The slrn session and my post are still in edit mode, still running. I'm
>> simply no longer attached to it. When I get to my next destination, I
>> turn on a different machine, SSH into my SSH server, and then attach to
>> that running session. And then I simple resume typing whatever I was
>> typing. 
>> 
>> slrn lets me choose the editor. So I am typing this in Vim. It's
>> completely transparent. When I compose a message, that comp is simply in
>> Vim. So all the features, the status bar, macros, etc that I have in Vim
>> are present. 
>> 
>> Vim let's me run external commands and the stdout is read into the Vim
>> buffer. So for example I could type :r !uname -r
>> 
>> Linux main 4.4.0-34-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 27 16:06:39 UTC 
>> 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>> 
>> And you can see here that the results of that command have been pulled
>> into the text I am typing. I can pull code into this buffer, command
>> output, etc. I don't need to copy and paste. I can just redirect. 
>> 
>> So it's not like Pan. It's more. Very flexible. 
>> 
>
> All of the above applies to tin as well.  I've used tin forever and
> don't really like anything else.  I had to hop onto slrn at one point
> for a brief time.  No real complaints except that adding custom headers
> was a tad more painful, with all the 'set custom_headers "...\n...\n"'.
> With tin you just add whatever header lines you want to the file
> .tin/headers.   Keeping header files for multiple soc^H^H^HIDs is
> then easy.
>
> anon@lowtide:~$ cat .tin/headers
> From: "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: common.perch.invalid
> Organization: O.W.L.
> Message-ID: <@perch.invalid>
> anon@lowtide:~$ 
>
> anon@lowtide:~$ cat .tin/skankman.headers
> From: skankman <skankman@skankman.invalid>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.skankman.invalid
> Organization: skankman
> Message-ID: <@skankman.invalid>
> anon@lowtide:~$ 
>
> anon@lowtide:~$ cat .tin/flabby.headers
> From: flabby <flabby@flabby.invalid>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.flabby.invalid
> Organization: flabby
> Message-ID: <@flabby.invalid>
> anon@lowtide:~$ 
>
> anon@lowtide:~$ ls .tin/*.headers |wc -l
> 27
> anon@lowtide:~$ 
>
> Oh my.

Yeah, I used Tin first and used it for a good while. Since the 90's
actually. But in the last three years a good few people suggested I give
slrn a try and I have to say it is now my favorite. No particular reason
that I can think of off hand. I'm fine with Tin too. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#367248

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-08-27 12:29 -0600
Message-ID<npsm5c$prp$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#367164
Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:

> Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:
>> On 2016-08-26, Silver Slimer <> wrote:
>>> On 2016-08-26 4:43 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>> On 2016-08-26, GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>>>> Silver Slimer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2016-08-26 1:36 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2016-08-26, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *thead plonk*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fuck off, moron.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I find it sad that chrisv appears to see himself as some sort of
>>>>>> moral authority here and also appears to believe that his approval is
>>>>>> necessary. I've been here a long enough time and have yet to see a
>>>>>> single informative post from the guy.
>>>>>>
>>>>> He even still uses windows XP to post with... yet he says that he is
>>>>> moral and honest and doesn't use Linux and probably doesn't even know
>>>>> how to install linux.
>>>>
>>>> There was a guy in my main group who went off on anyone and everyone
>>>> and he too posted with a non-linux client. Personally, I don't get
>>>> what's wrong with slrn. As far as I am concerned it is perfect. But
>>>> each to their own.
>>>
>>> I have yet to use slrn myself but I have to admit that I have a fondess
>>> for applications that work in the CLI (probably as a result of being
>>> forced to use a 286-10 and a 386-16 during an extra where both machines
>>> were obsolete). I'm just wondering what the benefit of it is over
>>> something like Pan.
>> 
>> PAN!!!  I think I'm having another pulmonary event!! I don't see the
>> appeal of PAN at all. Frankly, I think it's crap. I like Tin and SLRN,
>> and I wouldn't mind too much taking a crack at gnus, but I'm a Vim guy
>> not an emacs guy so I don't see the point.
>> 
>> So text mode for a usenet client in my opinion is perfect. It's very
>> readable. If you want to share code via usenet I think it is much better
>> to do so with a console based app, and if a GUI is used then at least
>> use a terminal font.
>> 
>> SLRN is very fast. And you might think PAN is fast, but it's not fast
>> compared to slrn. A console app like this is extremely fast compared to
>> something like PAN.
>> 
>> I can run this easily through an SSH session. So even though I have
>> quite a few machines, I just SSH into one machine and run it from that
>> SSH session. I use tmux to multiplex that session which means I can
>> leave it running and disconnect and reconnect to that session. I can
>> even connect multiple times from multiple machines to that same session.
>> 
>> Example:
>> 
>> I might be typing up something technical, but I have to leave my current
>> location. I detach this session running SLRN and shut my machine down.
>> The slrn session and my post are still in edit mode, still running. I'm
>> simply no longer attached to it. When I get to my next destination, I
>> turn on a different machine, SSH into my SSH server, and then attach to
>> that running session. And then I simple resume typing whatever I was
>> typing.
>> 
>> slrn lets me choose the editor. So I am typing this in Vim. It's
>> completely transparent. When I compose a message, that comp is simply in
>> Vim. So all the features, the status bar, macros, etc that I have in Vim
>> are present.
>> 
>> Vim let's me run external commands and the stdout is read into the Vim
>> buffer. So for example I could type :r !uname -r
>> 
>> Linux main 4.4.0-34-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 27 16:06:39 UTC
>> 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>> 
>> And you can see here that the results of that command have been pulled
>> into the text I am typing. I can pull code into this buffer, command
>> output, etc. I don't need to copy and paste. I can just redirect.
>> 
>> So it's not like Pan. It's more. Very flexible.
>> 
> 
> All of the above applies to tin as well.  I've used tin forever and
> don't really like anything else.  I had to hop onto slrn at one point
> for a brief time.  No real complaints except that adding custom headers
> was a tad more painful, with all the 'set custom_headers "...\n...\n"'.
> With tin you just add whatever header lines you want to the file
> .tin/headers.   Keeping header files for multiple soc^H^H^HIDs is
> then easy.
> 
> anon@lowtide:~$ cat .tin/headers
> From: "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: common.perch.invalid
> Organization: O.W.L.
> Message-ID: <@perch.invalid>
> anon@lowtide:~$
> 
> anon@lowtide:~$ cat .tin/skankman.headers
> From: skankman <skankman@skankman.invalid>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.skankman.invalid
> Organization: skankman
> Message-ID: <@skankman.invalid>
> anon@lowtide:~$
> 
> anon@lowtide:~$ cat .tin/flabby.headers
> From: flabby <flabby@flabby.invalid>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.flabby.invalid
> Organization: flabby
> Message-ID: <@flabby.invalid>
> anon@lowtide:~$
> 
> anon@lowtide:~$ ls .tin/*.headers |wc -l
> 27
> anon@lowtide:~$
> 
> Oh my.

The only newsreader I could get for OpenVMS was tin.


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#367257

FromMarek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
Date2016-08-27 12:08 -0700
Message-ID<VdWdnfW4GdG5eFzKnZ2dnUU7-KednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#367248
On 2016-08-27, GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:

// snip

> The only newsreader I could get for OpenVMS was tin.

Nothing wrong with Tin. Would it be possible to *easily* compile slang
and slrn on OpenVMS?

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#367285

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-08-27 18:26 -0600
Message-ID<nptb3v$sdn$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#367257
Marek Novotny wrote:

> On 2016-08-27, GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
> 
> // snip
> 
>> The only newsreader I could get for OpenVMS was tin.
> 
> Nothing wrong with Tin. Would it be possible to *easily* compile slang
> and slrn on OpenVMS?
> 

That one is easier said than done.  Their C compiler needs other conditions 
compiled in to make it work, something that isn't standard and a pure pain.
Tin already came as a binary so I used that.  Besides, OpenVMS is on its 
death bed anyway due to HPs lack of interest.

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#367191

Fromronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2016-08-27 04:21 +0000
Message-ID<npr4fr$67q$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#367136
On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:39:18 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote:

> PAN!!!  I think I'm having another pulmonary event!! I don't see the
> appeal of PAN at all. Frankly, I think it's crap. I like Tin and SLRN,

I like Pan. I use the tabbed layout and it works well for me. Reminds me 
a lot of Xnews (which I used in my Windows' days). But choice is good. 
And Linux gives you lots of choices. 

-- 
Zero tolerance for iCultists and WinDrones

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#367195

FromMarek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
Date2016-08-26 21:46 -0700
Message-ID<0pednS1yT_eUhlzKnZ2dnUU7-V-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#367191
On 2016-08-27, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 8/26/16, 9:21 PM, in article npr4fr$67q$2@dont-email.me, "ronb"
><ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:39:18 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote:
>> 
>>> PAN!!!  I think I'm having another pulmonary event!! I don't see the
>>> appeal of PAN at all. Frankly, I think it's crap. I like Tin and SLRN,
>> 
>> I like Pan. I use the tabbed layout and it works well for me. Reminds me
>> a lot of Xnews (which I used in my Windows' days). But choice is good.
>> And Linux gives you lots of choices.
>
> I will say the Usenet options on OS X suck.

Not so. You can compile SLRN for OSX and run it just fine. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#367202

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-08-27 05:15 +0000
Message-ID<ahjfu30.ghudas@perch.invalid>
In reply to#367195
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 8/26/16, 9:46 PM, in article
> 0pednS1yT_eUhlzKnZ2dnUU7-V-dnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny"
> <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2016-08-27, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/26/16, 9:21 PM, in article npr4fr$67q$2@dont-email.me, "ronb"
>>> <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:39:18 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> PAN!!!  I think I'm having another pulmonary event!! I don't see the
>>>>> appeal of PAN at all. Frankly, I think it's crap. I like Tin and SLRN,
>>>> 
>>>> I like Pan. I use the tabbed layout and it works well for me. Reminds me
>>>> a lot of Xnews (which I used in my Windows' days). But choice is good.
>>>> And Linux gives you lots of choices.
>>> 
>>> I will say the Usenet options on OS X suck.
>> 
>> Not so. You can compile SLRN for OSX and run it just fine.
> 
> Or tin. Sure. I am thinking in terms of GUI apps.

Telnet in a GUI terminal is what you want then.
Mack has a terminal somewhere, right?
http://i.imgur.com/KJ4vZiN.png

> I might try tin again at
> some point. It is what I used in the 1990s.
> 

Yep.  tin is another good choice.

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#367205

From"Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid>
Date2016-08-27 05:42 +0000
Message-ID<ahjfvud03.age@perch.invalid>
In reply to#367202
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 8/26/16, 10:15 PM, in article ahjfu30.ghudas@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
> Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/26/16, 9:46 PM, in article
>>> 0pednS1yT_eUhlzKnZ2dnUU7-V-dnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny"
>>> <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2016-08-27, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 8/26/16, 9:21 PM, in article npr4fr$67q$2@dont-email.me, "ronb"
>>>>> <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:39:18 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> PAN!!!  I think I'm having another pulmonary event!! I don't see the
>>>>>>> appeal of PAN at all. Frankly, I think it's crap. I like Tin and SLRN,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I like Pan. I use the tabbed layout and it works well for me. Reminds me
>>>>>> a lot of Xnews (which I used in my Windows' days). But choice is good.
>>>>>> And Linux gives you lots of choices.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will say the Usenet options on OS X suck.
>>>> 
>>>> Not so. You can compile SLRN for OSX and run it just fine.
>>> 
>>> Or tin. Sure. I am thinking in terms of GUI apps.
>> 
>> Telnet in a GUI terminal is what you want then.
>> Mack has a terminal somewhere, right?
> 
> Marek?
> 
>> http://i.imgur.com/KJ4vZiN.png
>>
>>> I might try tin again at
>>> some point. It is what I used in the 1990s.
>> 
>> Yep.  tin is another good choice.
> 
> I now prefer GUI options which have saved searches I can easily see...

Then why would you "might try tin again"?

> but I
> am sure with a GUI one I can have a saved search in a separate window or
> whatever.
> 
 
What kind of "saved search"?

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#367209

FromMarek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
Date2016-08-27 00:07 -0700
Message-ID<neOdnaVXaPKtoVzKnZ2dnUU7-eGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#367205
On 2016-08-27, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 8/26/16, 10:42 PM, in article ahjfvud03.age@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
> Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/26/16, 10:15 PM, in article ahjfu30.ghudas@perch.invalid, "Octavian W.
>>> Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 8/26/16, 9:46 PM, in article
>>>>> 0pednS1yT_eUhlzKnZ2dnUU7-V-dnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny"
>>>>> <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2016-08-27, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/26/16, 9:21 PM, in article npr4fr$67q$2@dont-email.me, "ronb"
>>>>>>> <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:39:18 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> PAN!!!  I think I'm having another pulmonary event!! I don't see the
>>>>>>>>> appeal of PAN at all. Frankly, I think it's crap. I like Tin and SLRN,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I like Pan. I use the tabbed layout and it works well for me. Reminds me
>>>>>>>> a lot of Xnews (which I used in my Windows' days). But choice is good.
>>>>>>>> And Linux gives you lots of choices.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I will say the Usenet options on OS X suck.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not so. You can compile SLRN for OSX and run it just fine.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or tin. Sure. I am thinking in terms of GUI apps.
>>>> 
>>>> Telnet in a GUI terminal is what you want then.
>>>> Mack has a terminal somewhere, right?
>>> 
>>> Marek?
>>> 
>>>> http://i.imgur.com/KJ4vZiN.png
>>>> 
>>>>> I might try tin again at
>>>>> some point. It is what I used in the 1990s.
>>>> 
>>>> Yep.  tin is another good choice.
>>> 
>>> I now prefer GUI options which have saved searches I can easily see...
>> 
>> Then why would you "might try tin again"?
>
> Because the GUI option I am using sucks and is so old there is a good chance
> it will stop working with the next OS update. But even if it still works, it
> still sucks. Have thought about switching for some time... even tried
> another option and it sucked, too.
>
>>> but I
>>> am sure with a GUI one I can have a saved search in a separate window or
>>> whatever.
>>  
>> What kind of "saved search"?
>
> I have my client set to download all content from selected groups. Then I
> have saved searches which contain content with (or without) key phrases (or
> from or not from certain people... whatever). I do not read the group in the
> order it came in, and do not see many of the posts. If there are a lot in my
> "hey, look at these" saves searches I do not make it past them.
>
> Will not be specific so people cannot game my system to get my attention
> more. 

LOL... No one would care, Snit. Honestly... 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#367249

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-08-27 12:30 -0600
Message-ID<npsm8a$prp$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#367195
Marek Novotny wrote:

> On 2016-08-27, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 8/26/16, 9:21 PM, in article npr4fr$67q$2@dont-email.me, "ronb"
>><ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:39:18 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>> 
>>>> PAN!!!  I think I'm having another pulmonary event!! I don't see the
>>>> appeal of PAN at all. Frankly, I think it's crap. I like Tin and SLRN,
>>> 
>>> I like Pan. I use the tabbed layout and it works well for me. Reminds me
>>> a lot of Xnews (which I used in my Windows' days). But choice is good.
>>> And Linux gives you lots of choices.
>>
>> I will say the Usenet options on OS X suck.
> 
> Not so. You can compile SLRN for OSX and run it just fine.
> 

I'm  not so sure a person can compile SLRN on current OS X.
It's that damn llvm/clang thing they use.  Of course the best thing to do is 
download the binaries of GCC for El Capitan.
Then you can compile the source.


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#367258

FromMarek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
Date2016-08-27 12:09 -0700
Message-ID<VdWdnfS4GdHQeFzKnZ2dnUU7-KednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#367249
On 2016-08-27, GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
> Marek Novotny wrote:
>
>> On 2016-08-27, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/26/16, 9:21 PM, in article npr4fr$67q$2@dont-email.me, "ronb"
>>><ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:39:18 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> PAN!!!  I think I'm having another pulmonary event!! I don't see the
>>>>> appeal of PAN at all. Frankly, I think it's crap. I like Tin and SLRN,
>>>> 
>>>> I like Pan. I use the tabbed layout and it works well for me. Reminds me
>>>> a lot of Xnews (which I used in my Windows' days). But choice is good.
>>>> And Linux gives you lots of choices.
>>>
>>> I will say the Usenet options on OS X suck.
>> 
>> Not so. You can compile SLRN for OSX and run it just fine.
>> 
>
> I'm  not so sure a person can compile SLRN on current OS X.
> It's that damn llvm/clang thing they use.  Of course the best thing to do is 
> download the binaries of GCC for El Capitan.
> Then you can compile the source.

You absolutely can as I have personally done it. 

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Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#367286

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-08-27 18:27 -0600
Message-ID<nptb5h$sdn$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#367258
Marek Novotny wrote:

> On 2016-08-27, GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>> Marek Novotny wrote:
>>
>>> On 2016-08-27, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 8/26/16, 9:21 PM, in article npr4fr$67q$2@dont-email.me, "ronb"
>>>><ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:39:18 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> PAN!!!  I think I'm having another pulmonary event!! I don't see the
>>>>>> appeal of PAN at all. Frankly, I think it's crap. I like Tin and
>>>>>> SLRN,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I like Pan. I use the tabbed layout and it works well for me. Reminds
>>>>> me a lot of Xnews (which I used in my Windows' days). But choice is
>>>>> good. And Linux gives you lots of choices.
>>>>
>>>> I will say the Usenet options on OS X suck.
>>> 
>>> Not so. You can compile SLRN for OSX and run it just fine.
>>> 
>>
>> I'm  not so sure a person can compile SLRN on current OS X.
>> It's that damn llvm/clang thing they use.  Of course the best thing to do
>> is download the binaries of GCC for El Capitan.
>> Then you can compile the source.
> 
> You absolutely can as I have personally done it.
> 

With the llvm/clang compiler?


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#367290

FromMarek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
Date2016-08-27 19:06 -0700
Message-ID<DKCdnYLirviS2l_KnZ2dnUU7-KudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#367286
On 2016-08-28, GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
> Marek Novotny wrote:
>
>> On 2016-08-27, GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>> Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2016-08-27, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 8/26/16, 9:21 PM, in article npr4fr$67q$2@dont-email.me, "ronb"
>>>>><ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:39:18 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> PAN!!!  I think I'm having another pulmonary event!! I don't see the
>>>>>>> appeal of PAN at all. Frankly, I think it's crap. I like Tin and
>>>>>>> SLRN,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I like Pan. I use the tabbed layout and it works well for me. Reminds
>>>>>> me a lot of Xnews (which I used in my Windows' days). But choice is
>>>>>> good. And Linux gives you lots of choices.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will say the Usenet options on OS X suck.
>>>> 
>>>> Not so. You can compile SLRN for OSX and run it just fine.
>>>> 
>>>
>>> I'm  not so sure a person can compile SLRN on current OS X.
>>> It's that damn llvm/clang thing they use.  Of course the best thing to do
>>> is download the binaries of GCC for El Capitan.
>>> Then you can compile the source.
>> 
>> You absolutely can as I have personally done it.
>> 
>
> With the llvm/clang compiler?

You know I don't remember. It would have to be. Pretty sure. I suppose I
could do it again. You can google it. I am absolutely sure I did it. Not
hard at all. About a year or more ago. I saw someone else using it on
here by watching the headers and so I wanted to try it. One of the guys
in the mac advocacy group is using it. Maybe read a few headers in
there and you'll run into it or just google slrn for the Mac. You'll run
right into it. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#367211

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2016-08-27 09:20 +0200
Message-ID<nprf0n$uc6$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#367191
The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser babbled:

> On 8/26/16, 9:21 PM, in article npr4fr$67q$2@dont-email.me, "ronb"
> <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:39:18 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote:
>> 
>>> PAN!!!  I think I'm having another pulmonary event!! I don't see the
>>> appeal of PAN at all. Frankly, I think it's crap. I like Tin and SLRN,
>> 
>> I like Pan. I use the tabbed layout and it works well for me. Reminds me
>> a lot of Xnews (which I used in my Windows' days). But choice is good.
>> And Linux gives you lots of choices.
> 
> I will say the Usenet options on OS X suck.
> 
Besides the many other things which suck donkey dicks on OSX

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#367213

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2016-08-27 10:04 +0200
Message-ID<nprhhu$526$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#367211
The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser babbled:

> On 8/27/16, 12:20 AM, in article nprf0n$uc6$2@dont-email.me, "Peter
> Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
> 
>> The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser babbled:
>> 
>>> On 8/26/16, 9:21 PM, in article npr4fr$67q$2@dont-email.me, "ronb"
>>> <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:39:18 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> PAN!!!  I think I'm having another pulmonary event!! I don't see the
>>>>> appeal of PAN at all. Frankly, I think it's crap. I like Tin and SLRN,
>>>> 
>>>> I like Pan. I use the tabbed layout and it works well for me. Reminds
>>>> me a lot of Xnews (which I used in my Windows' days). But choice is
>>>> good. And Linux gives you lots of choices.
>>> 
>>> I will say the Usenet options on OS X suck.
>>> 
>> Besides the many other things which suck donkey dicks on OSX
> 
> Yet you cannot show ANY task you can do better on Linux. 

I don't need to. I *know* that it is better for *my* needs. *Much* better 
than OSX. And most tasks I do are way beyond your capabilities. You could 
not repeat any of them. What you are showing is kindergarden level

> Hey, Marek tried
> tonight... but had to run to Windows and STILL did a piss poor job.

Your claim. We all know what to think of those. All of them are balderdash

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#367214

FromMarek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
Date2016-08-27 01:06 -0700
Message-ID<ovqdnQQ-HLtv1FzKnZ2dnUU7-SednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#367213
On 2016-08-27, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
> The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser babbled:
>
>> On 8/27/16, 12:20 AM, in article nprf0n$uc6$2@dont-email.me, "Peter
>> Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>> 
>>> The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser babbled:
>>> 
>>>> On 8/26/16, 9:21 PM, in article npr4fr$67q$2@dont-email.me, "ronb"
>>>> <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:39:18 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> PAN!!!  I think I'm having another pulmonary event!! I don't see the
>>>>>> appeal of PAN at all. Frankly, I think it's crap. I like Tin and SLRN,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I like Pan. I use the tabbed layout and it works well for me. Reminds
>>>>> me a lot of Xnews (which I used in my Windows' days). But choice is
>>>>> good. And Linux gives you lots of choices.
>>>> 
>>>> I will say the Usenet options on OS X suck.
>>>> 
>>> Besides the many other things which suck donkey dicks on OSX
>> 
>> Yet you cannot show ANY task you can do better on Linux. 
>
> I don't need to. I *know* that it is better for *my* needs. *Much* better 
> than OSX. And most tasks I do are way beyond your capabilities. You could 
> not repeat any of them. What you are showing is kindergarden level
>
>> Hey, Marek tried
>> tonight... but had to run to Windows and STILL did a piss poor job.
>
> Your claim. We all know what to think of those. All of them are balderdash

I'm still cracking up about him screwing up the simple NFS challenge.
All he had to do was type a command...  

-- 
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https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#367217

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2016-08-27 10:23 +0200
Message-ID<nprimh$909$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#367214
Marek Novotny wrote:

> On 2016-08-27, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>> The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser babbled:
>>
>>> On 8/27/16, 12:20 AM, in article nprf0n$uc6$2@dont-email.me, "Peter
>>> Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser babbled:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/26/16, 9:21 PM, in article npr4fr$67q$2@dont-email.me, "ronb"
>>>>> <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:39:18 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> PAN!!!  I think I'm having another pulmonary event!! I don't see the
>>>>>>> appeal of PAN at all. Frankly, I think it's crap. I like Tin and
>>>>>>> SLRN,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I like Pan. I use the tabbed layout and it works well for me. Reminds
>>>>>> me a lot of Xnews (which I used in my Windows' days). But choice is
>>>>>> good. And Linux gives you lots of choices.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will say the Usenet options on OS X suck.
>>>>> 
>>>> Besides the many other things which suck donkey dicks on OSX
>>> 
>>> Yet you cannot show ANY task you can do better on Linux.
>>
>> I don't need to. I *know* that it is better for *my* needs. *Much* better
>> than OSX. And most tasks I do are way beyond your capabilities. You could
>> not repeat any of them. What you are showing is kindergarden level
>>
>>> Hey, Marek tried
>>> tonight... but had to run to Windows and STILL did a piss poor job.
>>
>> Your claim. We all know what to think of those. All of them are
>> balderdash
> 
> I'm still cracking up about him screwing up the simple NFS challenge.
> All he had to do was type a command...
> 

His mouse has many buttons. But he can't type with it
So he is completely lost. His "scripting" abilities stop right after "apple 
script" and "automator". Which are apples way of "here is some scripting 
imitator for the imbeciles unable to do simple tasks"

And it wasn't just a simple command to type in. The way I *wanted* to set up 
the NFS shares is *impossible* under OSX. The software will not balk until 
you actually try to use the shares. Not a single word or warning message 
when setting up the shares. The very same setup under linux works 
flawlessly. So I had to circumvent the limitations of OSX to do a extremely 
simple (on linux) job. Nice work, apple. You could not screw up simple 
things more "elegantly".

And yes, apples NFS software is bullshit. It used to be "better" under Snow 
Leopard, but apple (again) knew better and removed most of the stuff. They 
probably know the Snits out there and decided to leave out the "dangerous" 
stuff

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#367219

FromMarek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
Date2016-08-27 01:39 -0700
Message-ID<Jdqdnc_etMJDzFzKnZ2dnUU7-d3NnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#367217
On 2016-08-27, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
> Marek Novotny wrote:
>
>> On 2016-08-27, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>> The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser babbled:
>>>
>>>> On 8/27/16, 12:20 AM, in article nprf0n$uc6$2@dont-email.me, "Peter
>>>> Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser babbled:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8/26/16, 9:21 PM, in article npr4fr$67q$2@dont-email.me, "ronb"
>>>>>> <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:39:18 -0700, Marek Novotny wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> PAN!!!  I think I'm having another pulmonary event!! I don't see the
>>>>>>>> appeal of PAN at all. Frankly, I think it's crap. I like Tin and
>>>>>>>> SLRN,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I like Pan. I use the tabbed layout and it works well for me. Reminds
>>>>>>> me a lot of Xnews (which I used in my Windows' days). But choice is
>>>>>>> good. And Linux gives you lots of choices.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I will say the Usenet options on OS X suck.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Besides the many other things which suck donkey dicks on OSX
>>>> 
>>>> Yet you cannot show ANY task you can do better on Linux.
>>>
>>> I don't need to. I *know* that it is better for *my* needs. *Much* better
>>> than OSX. And most tasks I do are way beyond your capabilities. You could
>>> not repeat any of them. What you are showing is kindergarden level
>>>
>>>> Hey, Marek tried
>>>> tonight... but had to run to Windows and STILL did a piss poor job.
>>>
>>> Your claim. We all know what to think of those. All of them are
>>> balderdash
>> 
>> I'm still cracking up about him screwing up the simple NFS challenge.
>> All he had to do was type a command...
>> 
>
> His mouse has many buttons. But he can't type with it
> So he is completely lost. His "scripting" abilities stop right after "apple 
> script" and "automator". Which are apples way of "here is some scripting 
> imitator for the imbeciles unable to do simple tasks"
>
> And it wasn't just a simple command to type in. The way I *wanted* to set up 
> the NFS shares is *impossible* under OSX. The software will not balk until 
> you actually try to use the shares. Not a single word or warning message 
> when setting up the shares. The very same setup under linux works 
> flawlessly. So I had to circumvent the limitations of OSX to do a extremely 
> simple (on linux) job. Nice work, apple. You could not screw up simple 
> things more "elegantly".
>
> And yes, apples NFS software is bullshit. It used to be "better" under Snow 
> Leopard, but apple (again) knew better and removed most of the stuff. They 
> probably know the Snits out there and decided to leave out the "dangerous" 
> stuff

yeah I had mentioned they screwed up SMB under 10.5, for the PowerPC. I
ended up using DAVE because Apple's own SMB stack is such shit. It
really is a crap shoot. 10.5 ended on a broken SMB stack. Other versions
work better than others. If you run into one that works, I'd be afraid
to update it because you can't really depend on Apple to fix it if they
fuck it up. It is obviously a low priority for them. You can't really
settle on a particular version of OSX, like 10.5 for example. You just
won't get any support.

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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