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Just click "like"

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  Just click "like" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-29 14:33 -0500
    Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-29 21:12 +0000
      Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 14:23 -0700
        Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-29 23:20 +0000
          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 16:36 -0700
            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 00:37 +0000
              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:43 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 01:23 +0000
                  Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-30 01:36 +0000
                    Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 19:58 -0700
                  Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 19:53 -0700
              Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-30 01:18 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 19:17 -0700
                  Re: Just click "like" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 03:53 -0500
                    Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 10:58 -0700
                      Re: Just click "like" Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 13:44 -0700
                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 21:03 +0000
                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 14:38 -0700
                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 22:00 +0000
                              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 15:15 -0700
                                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 22:43 +0000
                                  Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 17:33 -0700
                                    Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 03:25 +0000
                                      Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 21:06 -0700
                                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 05:11 +0000
                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 22:18 -0700
                                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 05:35 +0000
                                              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 22:37 -0700
                                                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 05:50 +0000
                                                  Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 22:55 -0700
                                                    Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 06:18 +0000
                                                      Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 23:39 -0700
                                                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 07:15 +0000
                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 00:20 -0700
                                                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 12:42 +0000
                                                              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 09:25 -0700
                                                                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 20:55 +0000
                                                                  Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 14:04 -0700
                                                                    Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 21:56 +0000
                                                                      Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 16:45 -0700
                                                                        Re: Just click "like" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-01 01:51 +0200
                                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 17:07 -0700
                                                                          Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 00:34 +0000
                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 17:55 -0700
                                                                              Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 01:10 +0000
                                                                                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 18:25 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 02:11 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 19:21 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 03:10 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 20:35 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 04:11 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 21:45 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 16:32 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 10:00 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-01 17:10 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 17:30 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 10:40 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 22:16 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:41 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 22:53 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 16:12 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:19 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 16:28 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:39 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:56 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 00:11 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:57 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:42 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 00:47 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:58 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 01:13 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:17 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 05:23 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:09 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 21:50 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 05:16 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 10:38 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-01 20:46 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 12:13 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-01 21:43 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 13:42 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 22:01 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:07 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:08 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-09-01 23:14 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:42 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 22:14 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:35 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 22:43 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-01 22:46 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 16:14 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:30 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:36 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 00:49 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:59 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 01:16 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:14 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 21:53 -0700
                                                                                                                            Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 10:18 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-02 05:07 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 14:31 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails completely Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 14:41 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails completely Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 16:13 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-03 11:37 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-02 08:08 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-02 05:03 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:21 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 16:09 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:15 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:36 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 05:25 +0000
                                                                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 00:21 +0000
                                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 17:46 -0700
                                                                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 01:04 +0000
                                                                              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 18:17 -0700
                      Re: Just click "like" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 21:49 -0500
                Re: Just click "like" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-31 07:35 -0500
          Re: Just click "like" GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-30 15:21 -0600
            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 14:39 -0700
              Re: Just click "like" GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-31 13:32 -0600
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 12:49 -0700
                  Re: Just click "like" GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-01 11:38 -0600
        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 00:35 +0000
          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:46 -0700
            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 00:56 +0000
              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 19:16 -0700
    Re: Just click "like" John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:29 -0700

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#318579 — Re: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-09-02 14:31 +0200
SubjectRe: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails
Message-ID<ms6q4f$hs6$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#318574
Snit wrote:

> On 9/2/15, 1:18 AM, in article ms6b9h$sfm$1@dont-email.me, "Peter
> Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
> 
>> The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser babbled:
>> 
>>> On 9/1/15, 9:14 PM, in article fabnd93.dfjo3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 9/1/15, 6:16 PM, in article asdfmvnc903.afei@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It's "absurd" because you can't do it.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Why would I not be able to do it? Really what are you talking
>>>>>>>>> about?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Talk is cheap.  Do it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Already done... but it is a silly exercise not tied to a real-world
>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You failed miserably in your attempt to replicate the workflow in my
>>>>>> video.
>>>> 
>>>>> One hot key. Saved to a folder of my choice.
>>>> 
>>>>> Done.
>>>> 
>>>>> And easy. :)
>>>> 
>>>> That was not the challenge.  The challenge was to duplicate what I
>>>> did using OS X.  Apparently it cannot be done, because you FAILED.
>>>> LOL seriously, you automate menu drops like in Win 3.1 macro recorder
>>>> and think that is something special?  What if you had a hundred
>>>> recipes?  You going to sit there and watch that crap with the menu
>>>> dropping down over and over... HOW RETARDED IS THAT OS OF YOURS!
>>>> 
>>> You had TWO recipes and failed. Really... this is silly.
>> 
>> That "failing part" needs some explanation
> 
> He did not save the recipes by themselves but the page with tons of other
> links and the like.

Sue him for doing a task easier and faster than you can
 
> ...
>>> But if I wanted to do a bunch of pages I would automate that in a
>>> different way... download the pages and then convert to PDF or
>>> something.
>>> 
>> 
>> Translation: You can't do it and want to hide that fact by doing it
>> *very* different.
>> Whereas when you put one of your lunatic "challenges" it has to be done
>> *exactly* like you do it, otherwise you consider it "failed"
>> 
>> Double standards and that...
> 
> I made it very clear it did not have to be done in the same way. Your
> comment is just gibberish.

Certainly. We all have seen it dozens, of not hundreds of times
So quit lying already

> Heck, and the challenge I gave included editing it, saving it, and
> emailing it. He pretty much showed he had no standard workflow to do that
> well so he wrote a script... and left out the editing. Oops.
> 
> Comes down to 

You showing what kind of worthless pile of elephant dung you really are

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#318582 — Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails completely

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-09-02 14:41 +0200
SubjectJust click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails completely
Message-ID<ms6qmq$kkn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#318579
The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser babbled:

>>> 
>>> Comes down to
>> 
>> You showing what kind of worthless pile of elephant dung you really are
> 
> I showed using a computer with common workflows... and that made you
> resort to insults to try to hide your insecurity. OK.
> 

Yes, a "common workflow". So common that only idiots like you would think of 
such idiotic tasks. And then do it *that* inefficient, because OSX has no 
means to do it better

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#318598 — Re: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails completely

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-09-02 16:13 +0200
SubjectRe: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails completely
Message-ID<ms702a$9p2$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#318582
The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser babbled:

> On 9/2/15, 5:41 AM, in article ms6qmq$kkn$1@dont-email.me, "Peter
> Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
> 
>> The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser babbled:
>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Comes down to
>>>> 
>>>> You showing what kind of worthless pile of elephant dung you really are
>>> 
>>> I showed using a computer with common workflows... and that made you
>>> resort to insults to try to hide your insecurity. OK.
>>> 
>> 
>> Yes, a "common workflow". So common that only idiots like you would think
>> of such idiotic tasks. And then do it *that* inefficient, because OSX has
>> no means to do it better
> 
> So others know the task being discussed:

Bullshit tasks invented by an imbecile to "prove" how much "better" his Toy-
OS is compared to linux, only to have him explode his idiocy into his ugly 
face

Yes, we know what is being discussed. And you did not like the outcome, 
because you looked like the incompetent imbecile you really are

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#318823 — Re: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2015-09-03 11:37 -0500
SubjectRe: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails
Message-ID<slrnmugtq4.dnh.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#318564
On 2015-09-02, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
> The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser babbled:
>
>> On 9/1/15, 9:14 PM, in article fabnd93.dfjo3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/1/15, 6:16 PM, in article asdfmvnc903.afei@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It's "absurd" because you can't do it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Why would I not be able to do it? Really what are you talking about?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Talk is cheap.  Do it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Already done... but it is a silly exercise not tied to a real-world
>>>>>> problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You failed miserably in your attempt to replicate the workflow in my
>>>>> video.
>>> 
>>>> One hot key. Saved to a folder of my choice.
>>> 
>>>> Done.
>>> 
>>>> And easy. :)
>>> 
>>> That was not the challenge.  The challenge was to duplicate what I
>>> did using OS X.  Apparently it cannot be done, because you FAILED.
>>> LOL seriously, you automate menu drops like in Win 3.1 macro recorder
>>> and think that is something special?  What if you had a hundred
>>> recipes?  You going to sit there and watch that crap with the menu
>>> dropping down over and over... HOW RETARDED IS THAT OS OF YOURS!
>>> 
>> You had TWO recipes and failed. Really... this is silly.

   I find this whole thread rather amusing since I have been collecting recipes
on the web since this was a "print to PS" versus "print to PDF" thing. It 
always seemed the most logical way to "save" anything from the web.

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#318562

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2015-09-02 08:08 +0000
Message-ID<55e6ae65$0$29382$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#318543
On Wed, 02 Sep 2015 04:14:20 +0000, owl wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 9/1/15, 6:16 PM, in article asdfmvnc903.afei@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> It's "absurd" because you can't do it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why would I not be able to do it? Really what are you talking
>>>>>> about?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Talk is cheap.  Do it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> Already done... but it is a silly exercise not tied to a real-world
>>>> problem.
>>> 
>>> You failed miserably in your attempt to replicate the workflow in my
>>> video.
> 
>> One hot key. Saved to a folder of my choice.
> 
>> Done.
> 
>> And easy. :)
> 
> That was not the challenge.  The challenge was to duplicate what I did
> using OS X.  Apparently it cannot be done, because you FAILED. LOL
> seriously, you automate menu drops like in Win 3.1 macro recorder and
> think that is something special?  What if you had a hundred recipes? 
> You going to sit there and watch that crap with the menu dropping down
> over and over... HOW RETARDED IS THAT OS OF YOURS!

If you're talking about grabbing 100 (or thousands, or whatever) recipes, 
that's entering the realm of scripting "wget" and "convert" anyway.  
SIMD, and all that.

-- 
 -v

Air Force Inertia Axiom:
	Consistency is always easier to defend than correctness.

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#318572

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-02 05:03 -0700
Message-ID<D20C33A6.59AAD%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318562
On 9/2/15, 1:08 AM, in article
55e6ae65$0$29382$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com, "vallor"
<vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 02 Sep 2015 04:14:20 +0000, owl wrote:
> 
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/1/15, 6:16 PM, in article asdfmvnc903.afei@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>>> It's "absurd" because you can't do it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why would I not be able to do it? Really what are you talking
>>>>>>> about?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Talk is cheap.  Do it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Already done... but it is a silly exercise not tied to a real-world
>>>>> problem.
>>>> 
>>>> You failed miserably in your attempt to replicate the workflow in my
>>>> video.
>> 
>>> One hot key. Saved to a folder of my choice.
>> 
>>> Done.
>> 
>>> And easy. :)
>> 
>> That was not the challenge.  The challenge was to duplicate what I did
>> using OS X.  Apparently it cannot be done, because you FAILED. LOL
>> seriously, you automate menu drops like in Win 3.1 macro recorder and
>> think that is something special?  What if you had a hundred recipes?
>> You going to sit there and watch that crap with the menu dropping down
>> over and over... HOW RETARDED IS THAT OS OF YOURS!
> 
> If you're talking about grabbing 100 (or thousands, or whatever) recipes,
> that's entering the realm of scripting "wget" and "convert" anyway.
> SIMD, and all that.

Agreed. His moving of goal posted was absurd, esp. since his video showed
him FAILING at even two, and to get the two he needed to move away from the
idea of having a general purpose machine. Gee, a script for every task...
completely absurd. 

As I noted, the focus on recipes is clearly specific, but it could also be
online receipts (I get those, put notes on them, save them as PDFs, and even
email them - same things) or craft ideas (same thing... I do them all with
those, too), or more. For my videos I did not focus on making specialized
global scripts. No need. Just used my system as it is.

Even for his absurd get 100 I got all of the ones on the home page in under
3 minutes with no changes to my system *other* than adding a program I
already had to my dock, allowing it to update when I opened it, and changing
its default download folder: <https://youtu.be/c65ojXTxynU>.

There have been times I wanted to do more. Years ago when someone in CSMA
was inexplicitly lying about his CSS being valid when it was not (oh no, I
noted he had some bad CSS... the shame... whatever), I did a small amount of
work to prove no example of his CSS (or HTML for that matter) stored in the
WayBackMachine archive validated.

<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandmancheck-css.pdf>
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandmancheck-html-detail.pdf>

Had some other variations, but to really blow Owl's mind, here is one with
the archived site and the CSS and the HTML validation for 114 pages:

<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>

He moved goal posts to try to show his Linux tools as better. Now to some
extent when you start getting to this level of scripting and the like you
get to the point where programming skills matter - and he claims to be a
programmer I believe. But I am not... and still did this with relative ease.

Will be interesting to see how he responses.

-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#318545

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-02 04:21 +0000
Message-ID<sdnv8.eav@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318522
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 9/1/15, 5:49 PM, in article adsfashe9.asj@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/1/15, 4:30 PM, in article fa3a.fau@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 9/1/15, 3:46 PM, in article
>>>>> 55e62ac3$0$64284$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com, "vallor"
>>>>> <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> All of what you have as "PDF Services" could be nested under *one*
>>>>>>>>> menu item on *one* menu.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Right... you could have it buried in a menu on your desktop, but you
>>>>>>>> cannot have it be tied to the print dialogs or otherwise have it fit a
>>>>>>>> more reasoned workflow. OK.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Having things buried somewhere under a "Print" menu, especially things
>>>>>>> that are completely unrelated to printing, does not equal a "better
>>>>>>> workflow." You really need to reassess your definition of "streamlined."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Your arrangement has better system integration, owl.
>>>> 
>>>>> His is based on having to go to the file manager or use a system wide hot
>>>>> key to do a task in a browser.
>>>> 
>>>>> His is anything but streamlined... unless you want to count my being able
>>>>> to
>>>>> make an Automator script to do the whole thing, including editing the file,
>>>>> as being "streamlined". Sure, once things are set up I can do it with one
>>>>> menu item, hotkey, or click on my dock... but it is absurd to set things up
>>>>> like that for every task you do.
>>>> 
>>>> It's "absurd" because you can't do it.
>>>> 
>>> Why would I not be able to do it? Really what are you talking about?
>> 
>> Talk is cheap.  Do it.
>> 

> Already done... but it is a silly exercise not tied to a real-world problem.

> My save to recipes IS a real world situation. My mailing of a recipe IS a
> real world situation.

> Anyway, I did your "test", now see if you can make a video even close to the
> one I showed in my challenge. Or even show a STANDARD work flow you would
> use to save a recipe as a PDF *and* email it. In my video I just use the
> desktop... so no need for anything special there.

I just use magic dust.
https://vid.me/clBg

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#318490

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-01 16:09 -0700
Message-ID<D20B7E4E.599CF%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318482
On 9/1/15, 3:43 PM, in article fancm9a.jf@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 9/1/15, 3:14 PM, in article eughd.kzv03@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/1/15, 10:10 AM, in article
>>>> 55e5dc1d$0$64284$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com, "vallor"
>>>> <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This is a whacky workflow and, apparently at least, to not clutter his
>>>> menus
>>>> he removed other items we had talked about and used.
>>> 
>>> I didn't remove anything.  I showed videos of different machines.
> 
>> OK, so you added things to different virtual machines. The point stands: you
>> can do any subset of what I show, though sometimes with a sorta whacky
>> workflow where you have to leave the program and click on the desktop, but
>> you end up treating each machine more as a special purpose machine and not
>> one that has each of these features.
> 
>> *And* you showed a pretty cool way to convert files in your file browser to
>> PDF, a topic Peter Köhlmann picked, in a way better than I could show on OS
>> X (again, mine might have had some benefits but overall I think it is fair
>> to say yours was the better solution).
> 
>>> All of what you have as "PDF Services" could be nested under *one*
>>> menu item on *one* menu.
> 
>> Right... you could have it buried in a menu on your desktop, but you cannot
>> have it be tied to the print dialogs or otherwise have it fit a more
>> reasoned workflow. OK.
> 
> Having things buried somewhere under a "Print" menu, especially things that
> are completely unrelated to printing, does not equal a "better workflow."

We can re-hash this a many times as you like: OS X, Windows, and Linux all
have things such as saving to PDF in the print dialog. Yes, this can lead to
some confusion as it is tied to the underlying architectures and not actual
printing. I agree. But once you get over that "bump" it makes sense.

> You really need to reassess your definition of "streamlined."

Makes a lot more sense than leaving the program to go to the desktop.

By the way, I asked an unrelated question in alt.os.linux.mint. A real
question... but I did make sure to speak of "Firefox's print menu". Nobody
seemed confused. They even referred to it as that.

Your games about the print dialog being out of the program in the same way
the desktop is shows you are just being silly.



-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#318494

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-01 23:15 +0000
Message-ID<adfn03.af@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318490
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 9/1/15, 3:43 PM, in article fancm9a.jf@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/1/15, 3:14 PM, in article eughd.kzv03@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 9/1/15, 10:10 AM, in article
>>>>> 55e5dc1d$0$64284$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com, "vallor"
>>>>> <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> This is a whacky workflow and, apparently at least, to not clutter his
>>>>> menus
>>>>> he removed other items we had talked about and used.
>>>> 
>>>> I didn't remove anything.  I showed videos of different machines.
>> 
>>> OK, so you added things to different virtual machines. The point stands: you
>>> can do any subset of what I show, though sometimes with a sorta whacky
>>> workflow where you have to leave the program and click on the desktop, but
>>> you end up treating each machine more as a special purpose machine and not
>>> one that has each of these features.
>> 
>>> *And* you showed a pretty cool way to convert files in your file browser to
>>> PDF, a topic Peter Köhlmann picked, in a way better than I could show on OS
>>> X (again, mine might have had some benefits but overall I think it is fair
>>> to say yours was the better solution).
>> 
>>>> All of what you have as "PDF Services" could be nested under *one*
>>>> menu item on *one* menu.
>> 
>>> Right... you could have it buried in a menu on your desktop, but you cannot
>>> have it be tied to the print dialogs or otherwise have it fit a more
>>> reasoned workflow. OK.
>> 
>> Having things buried somewhere under a "Print" menu, especially things that
>> are completely unrelated to printing, does not equal a "better workflow."

> We can re-hash this a many times as you like: OS X, Windows, and Linux all
> have things such as saving to PDF in the print dialog.

Linux "PDF Services" have nothing to do with any "print" dialog.

> Yes, this can lead to
> some confusion as it is tied to the underlying architectures and not actual
> printing. I agree. But once you get over that "bump" it makes sense.

>> You really need to reassess your definition of "streamlined."

> Makes a lot more sense than leaving the program to go to the desktop.

I don't recall ever "leaving" the program.  If you get lost when the
mouse cursor moves two inches to the left, that's a personal problem.

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#318546

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-02 04:36 +0000
Message-ID<fasfdm83.a9f@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318494
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 9/1/15, 4:15 PM, in article adfn03.af@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> ... 
>>>> Having things buried somewhere under a "Print" menu, especially things that
>>>> are completely unrelated to printing, does not equal a "better workflow."
>> 
>>> We can re-hash this a many times as you like: OS X, Windows, and Linux all
>>> have things such as saving to PDF in the print dialog.
>> 
>> Linux "PDF Services" have nothing to do with any "print" dialog.

> Any comments on the text you responded to?

Put down the crack pipe and put on your glasses.

>>> Yes, this can lead to
>>> some confusion as it is tied to the underlying architectures and not actual
>>> printing. I agree. But once you get over that "bump" it makes sense.
>> 
>>>> You really need to reassess your definition of "streamlined."
>> 
>>> Makes a lot more sense than leaving the program to go to the desktop.
>> 
>> I don't recall ever "leaving" the program.  If you get lost when the
>> mouse cursor moves two inches to the left, that's a personal problem.

> You moved to the desktop. That is NOT a part of the program.

> Here, show clicking on the desktop when the program is full screen.

> Got it? And why leave the program to do things in the program? Your workflow
> is insane.

Magic dust works in full screen too...
https://vid.me/ymNR

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#318552

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-02 05:25 +0000
Message-ID<dfamv8.fadsj@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318546
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 9/1/15, 9:36 PM, in article fasfdm83.a9f@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/1/15, 4:15 PM, in article adfn03.af@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> ... 
>>>>>> Having things buried somewhere under a "Print" menu, especially things
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> are completely unrelated to printing, does not equal a "better workflow."
>>>> 
>>>>> We can re-hash this a many times as you like: OS X, Windows, and Linux all
>>>>> have things such as saving to PDF in the print dialog.
>>>> 
>>>> Linux "PDF Services" have nothing to do with any "print" dialog.
>> 
>>> Any comments on the text you responded to?
>> 
>> Put down the crack pipe and put on your glasses.
>> 
>>>>> Yes, this can lead to
>>>>> some confusion as it is tied to the underlying architectures and not actual
>>>>> printing. I agree. But once you get over that "bump" it makes sense.
>>>> 
>>>>>> You really need to reassess your definition of "streamlined."
>>>> 
>>>>> Makes a lot more sense than leaving the program to go to the desktop.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't recall ever "leaving" the program.  If you get lost when the
>>>> mouse cursor moves two inches to the left, that's a personal problem.
>> 
>>> You moved to the desktop. That is NOT a part of the program.
>> 
>>> Here, show clicking on the desktop when the program is full screen.
>> 
>>> Got it? And why leave the program to do things in the program? Your workflow
>>> is insane.
>> 
>> Magic dust works in full screen too...
>> https://vid.me/ymNR
>> 

> And more proving me correct. Thanks.

What *are* you talking about now.

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#318243

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-01 00:21 +0000
Message-ID<fadnmv83.a03@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318220
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 8/31/15, 2:56 PM, in article asmbnc83.jidf@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/31/15, 1:55 PM, in article rlfdsk93.ajfj@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 8/31/15, 5:42 AM, in article fsanmv93.ki@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/31/15, 12:15 AM, in article fasm9fawe.ki@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> * File > Print. This is a standard feature of most programs...
>>>>>>>   which ties to system services.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> * Clicking the desktop: This is not going outside the program
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Make up your mind, fool.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Current debate with Owl:
>>>> 
>>>>> * Owl
>>>> 
>>>>> He engaged in some pretty cool advocacy. He showed he could do with Linux
>>>>> quite a few things that can be done on a Mac... though it quickly became
>>>>> clear he had to re-do his set up with what was and was not available. So he
>>>>> presented Linux as being configurable but not having as much connection
>>>>> with
>>>>> context as OS X. Fine. Each has strengths and we learned.
>>>> 
>>>> How did I redo my system with something that's not available?
>> 
>>> Did you not add and remove menu and panel items?
>> 
>> Was "Save to Recipes Folder" already there when you unboxed your Mack?

> Already answered.

Then your answer must have been, "It was not," and therefore you were
required to "add and remove" items to the PDF services menu.

>>>>> Then Owl decided this was not good enough and that one should see clicking
>>>>> on the desktop to get a task done (leaving the program you are working on)
>>>>> to be the same as using File > Print because the print dialog is controlled
>>>>> by the system so it is also leaving the program. Utter nonsense.
>>>> 
>>>> Did you ever answer my question about Chrome?
>> 
>>> Yes, but I focused more on the actual topic!
>> 
>> Jog my memory.  Do you consider the system-wide Print Dialog to be a
>> part of Chrome? 

> Already answered and irrelevant... let's focus on your claim that clicking
> on the desktop to get a task done (leaving the program you are working on)
> to be the same as using File > Print because the print dialog is controlled
> by the system so it is also leaving the program. Utter nonsense... and hence
> why you try to play semantic games and change the topic when it is noted.

I suppose you think the email program is also part of Chrome, since
you reach it through the PDF services via the external system-wide
Print Dialog which you mistakenly consider to be a part of Chrome?

> Comes down to you know your position is completely indefensible.

Comes down to you don't want to answer these simple questions, because
the truth hurts.

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#318246

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-08-31 17:46 -0700
Message-ID<D20A4388.597F2%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318243
On 8/31/15, 5:21 PM, in article fadnmv83.a03@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

... 
>> let's focus on your claim that clicking on the desktop to get a task done
>> (leaving the program you are working on) to be the same as using File > Print
>> because the print dialog is controlled by the system so it is also leaving
>> the program. Utter nonsense... and hence why you try to play semantic games
>> and change the topic when it is noted.
> 
> I suppose you think the email program is also part of Chrome, since
> you reach it through the PDF services via the external system-wide
> Print Dialog which you mistakenly consider to be a part of Chrome?

You can make all the idiotic suppositions you want, but I prefer to focus on
technology and workflows and productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction.

Here, just made yet *another* video for you... I keep showing you what I
mean by context and what I think you would find very hard to replicate on
Linux, but I am open to you showing me I am wrong.

And, to be clear, when I say "replicate" I do not mean click-for-click or
the exact same way, but in a way that is as clear and direct and, well,
streamlined. Made this one for you before... do not think you commented:

Context: <https://youtu.be/mb3Y7xjwnoo>
Save and Print Recipe with Notes: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>
More on Context: <http://youtu.be/fRyYZD15s0c>

The first "Context" one is long and rambling... second one not so much. The
point is to show you all these features I talk about are always there but
not in the way. Also am very clear where OS X is not perfect.

>> Comes down to you know your position is completely indefensible.
> 
> Comes down to you don't want to answer these simple questions, because
> the truth hurts.

Not interested in your circus.



-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#318250

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-01 01:04 +0000
Message-ID<fad.fue6823@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318246
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 8/31/15, 5:21 PM, in article fadnmv83.a03@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
...
>> 
>> I suppose you think the email program is also part of Chrome, since
>> you reach it through the PDF services via the external system-wide
>> Print Dialog which you mistakenly consider to be a part of Chrome?

> You can make all the idiotic suppositions you want, but I prefer to focus on
> technology and workflows and productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction.

All anybody can do is make suppositions about what your anwsers to simple
questions might be, since you yourself refuse to provide those answers. 

...

>>> Comes down to you know your position is completely indefensible.
>> 
>> Comes down to you don't want to answer these simple questions, because
>> the truth hurts.

> Not interested in your circus.

Translation: not interested in answering questions.

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#318254

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-08-31 18:17 -0700
Message-ID<D20A4AAB.597FF%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318250
On 8/31/15, 6:04 PM, in article fad.fue6823@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 8/31/15, 5:21 PM, in article fadnmv83.a03@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> ...
> 
>>> 
>>> I suppose you think the email program is also part of Chrome, since
>>> you reach it through the PDF services via the external system-wide
>>> Print Dialog which you mistakenly consider to be a part of Chrome?
> 
>> You can make all the idiotic suppositions you want, but I prefer to focus on
>> technology and workflows and productivity, efficiency, and error-reduction.
> 
> All anybody can do is make suppositions about what your anwsers to simple
> questions might be, since you yourself refuse to provide those answers.
> 
> ...
> 
> 
>>>> Comes down to you know your position is completely indefensible.
>>> 
>>> Comes down to you don't want to answer these simple questions, because
>>> the truth hurts.
> 
>> Not interested in your circus.
> 
> Translation: not interested in answering questions.
> 
Context: <https://youtu.be/mb3Y7xjwnoo>
Save and Print Recipe with Notes: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>
More on Context: <http://youtu.be/fRyYZD15s0c>

The first "Context" one is long and rambling... second one not so much. The
point is to show you all these features I talk about are always there but
not in the way. Also am very clear where OS X is not perfect.

It also shows how the print dialog is more tied to the program than leaving
the program to go to the desktop.

Really, Owl, TRY to stop playing games where you back yourself into a corner
having to pretend that the desktop is as much a part of a browser as the
browser's print dialog. Once you started doing that you showed you were a
bit lost.


-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#317938

FromNobody <nobody@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-30 21:49 -0500
Message-ID<ms0fbd$h35$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#317788
On 8/30/2015 12:58 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 8/30/15, 1:53 AM, in article mrugad$a5f$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>> On 8/29/2015 9:17 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 8/29/15, 6:18 PM, in article
>>> 55e259fa$0$19608$c3e8da3$b1356c67@news.astraweb.com, "vallor"
>>> <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> NO, IT HAS A DIFFERENT METHOD that ISN'T EVEN SUPERIOR TO WHAT A LINUX
>>>>>>> USER CAN DO, IF THEY SO CHOOSE.
>>>>>
>>>>>> So SHOW it. I mean, really... stop flapping that jaw and whining about
>>>>>> sour grapes and actually SHOW it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's already been SHOWN. https://vid.me/2SuL
>>>>
>>>> Agreed.
>>>>
>>>> And the only "sour grapes" around here are from the OS X fanboy that
>>>> won't admit when Linux is more than capable for his crazy "use case".
>>>
>>> Nobody said it was not "capable" - but if you think it can do what I show
>>> for OS X then why not show it?
>>
>> What for?  You denied saying it wasn't capable.
>>
>>> Why doesn't Owl who is a much better advocate
>>> than you?
>>
>> You pull the same shit on him.  Whatever he posts is wasted on you.
>>
>>> Why can't any of the herd support their claims?
>>
>> Why don't you just go away and use your Mac, Droopy Balls?
>
> Here is what has been going one:

I know what's been going on, Droopy.   Why don't you just go away and 
use your Mac?

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#318019

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-08-31 07:35 -0500
Message-ID<hai8ua5dpdro9at8gjnq1ubentica7b7l3@4ax.com>
In reply to#317617
vallor wrote:

>> It's already been SHOWN. https://vid.me/2SuL
>
>Agreed.
>
>And the only "sour grapes" around here are from the OS X fanboy that 
>won't admit when Linux is more than capable for his crazy "use case"

FFS haven't you guys learned that thing's MO?  It will just continue
to deny that (whatever) has been shown, whether it's proof that the
thing is a liar, or an advantage of GNU/Linux.

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#317845

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-08-30 15:21 -0600
Message-ID<6NmdnUEnu4tT7n7InZ2dnUU7-I1g4p2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#317573
On 08/29/15 17:20, vallor wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 14:23:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>
>> On 8/29/15, 2:12 PM, in article
>> 55e22040$0$3311$b1db1813$145976f0@news.astraweb.com, "vallor"
>> <vallor@cultnix.org>  wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 14:33:46 -0500, Nobody wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you want to share recipes from Web sites, just click "like" and let
>>>> your friends pick them up from your FB page...
>>>>
>>>> ... no need to dick around with the "Finder" or printing out copies...
>>>>
>>>> ... that's so last century...  just like the Mac...
>>>
>>> My browser has the option of created a PDF from the print dialogue, or
>>> just saving the html document&  assorted ancillary files that go with
>>> it.
>>
>> Right. Same with Windows (in Windows 10 it even includes Print to PDF,
>> with older version you needed a third party driver).
>
> NICE OF THEM TO CATCH UP WITH LINUX.
>
Odd that I can do the same thing in Win7.

>
>>
>>> But no one does that with recipes, we just share links.  Non-problem
>>> solved.
>>
>> But what about the actual use-case being discussed? Even with that Linux
>> and Windows handle it fairly well: File>  Print, select to save as PDF,
>> then dig down to your Recipes folder (or Web Receipts or whatever).
>
> LINUX FILE SAVE DIALOGUES HAVE BOOKMARKS.
>
> Maybe if you actually LEARNED MORE about Linux, rather than TALKING about
> it, you'd actually KNOW HOW IT WORKS.
>
>
>> OS X has a more streamlined method:
>
> NO, IT HAS A DIFFERENT METHOD that ISN'T EVEN SUPERIOR TO WHAT A LINUX
> USER CAN DO, IF THEY SO CHOOSE.
>
> ...and way too much bandwidth has been wasted on this bikeshedding.
>
> Jayzus.
>


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Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you
could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the
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#317857

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-08-30 14:39 -0700
Message-ID<D208C63C.59517%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#317845
On 8/30/15, 2:21 PM, in article
6NmdnUEnu4tT7n7InZ2dnUU7-I1g4p2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud" <cumulus@mist.com>
wrote:

> On 08/29/15 17:20, vallor wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 14:23:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8/29/15, 2:12 PM, in article
>>> 55e22040$0$3311$b1db1813$145976f0@news.astraweb.com, "vallor"
>>> <vallor@cultnix.org>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 14:33:46 -0500, Nobody wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> If you want to share recipes from Web sites, just click "like" and let
>>>>> your friends pick them up from your FB page...
>>>>> 
>>>>> ... no need to dick around with the "Finder" or printing out copies...
>>>>> 
>>>>> ... that's so last century...  just like the Mac...
>>>> 
>>>> My browser has the option of created a PDF from the print dialogue, or
>>>> just saving the html document&  assorted ancillary files that go with
>>>> it.
>>> 
>>> Right. Same with Windows (in Windows 10 it even includes Print to PDF,
>>> with older version you needed a third party driver).
>> 
>> NICE OF THEM TO CATCH UP WITH LINUX.
>> 
> Odd that I can do the same thing in Win7.

But, oh no!, you needed to use a third party PDF driver, right?

Not like Linux where everything is made by Linus Torvalds himself! :)


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#318123

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-08-31 13:32 -0600
Message-ID<JYGdnTYDRZxSNnnInZ2dnUU7-dOdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#317857
On 08/30/15 15:39, Snit wrote:
> On 8/30/15, 2:21 PM, in article
> 6NmdnUEnu4tT7n7InZ2dnUU7-I1g4p2d@bresnan.com, "GreyCloud"<cumulus@mist.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 08/29/15 17:20, vallor wrote:
>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 14:23:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/29/15, 2:12 PM, in article
>>>> 55e22040$0$3311$b1db1813$145976f0@news.astraweb.com, "vallor"
>>>> <vallor@cultnix.org>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 14:33:46 -0500, Nobody wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to share recipes from Web sites, just click "like" and let
>>>>>> your friends pick them up from your FB page...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... no need to dick around with the "Finder" or printing out copies...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... that's so last century...  just like the Mac...
>>>>>
>>>>> My browser has the option of created a PDF from the print dialogue, or
>>>>> just saving the html document&   assorted ancillary files that go with
>>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Right. Same with Windows (in Windows 10 it even includes Print to PDF,
>>>> with older version you needed a third party driver).
>>>
>>> NICE OF THEM TO CATCH UP WITH LINUX.
>>>
>> Odd that I can do the same thing in Win7.
>
> But, oh no!, you needed to use a third party PDF driver, right?
>

Correct, as win7 has all it needs to support PDFs.

> Not like Linux where everything is made by Linus Torvalds himself! :)
>
>


-- 
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Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you
could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the
bottom, and have a longer blanket."

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