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Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe

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  Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-30 15:47 +0000
    Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 16:01 +0000
      Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-30 11:59 -0500
        Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-31 00:02 +0000
          Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 17:23 -0700
          Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-31 00:36 +0000
            Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 17:54 -0700
            Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 22:05 -0700
              Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 00:11 -0700
                Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 01:45 -0700
            Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-31 06:58 -0500
              Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 05:50 -0700
          Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-31 06:56 -0500
            Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 05:38 -0700
            Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 05:46 -0700
            Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-31 17:00 +0000
              Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-31 12:52 -0500
                Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-31 18:57 +0000
                  Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-31 14:43 -0500
                    Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 13:34 -0700
                  Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-31 19:45 +0000
                  Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 13:33 -0700
                Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 13:29 -0700
              Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-31 17:54 +0000
                Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 21:21 +0000
                  Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-01 15:01 +0000
                Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe <fire@starter.net> (🔥🔥🔥) - 2018-08-12 20:51 -0500
                  Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-14 12:00 +0000
                    Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-14 05:21 -0700
        Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 12:41 +0000
          Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 05:52 -0700
          Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-31 13:34 +0000
            Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 06:53 -0700
            Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 06:56 -0700
            Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-31 09:00 -0500
              Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 09:02 -0700
                Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 09:23 -0700
                  Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 09:43 -0700
                    Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 10:33 -0700
                      Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 10:48 -0700
                        Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-31 14:00 -0500
                          Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 12:07 -0700
                            Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 12:49 -0700
                              Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 12:59 -0700
                                Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 13:38 -0700
                            Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 20:40 -0700
                          Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-31 19:10 +0000
                            Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-31 14:32 -0500
                              Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-31 19:47 +0000
                                Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-31 14:56 -0500
                                  Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-07-31 20:05 +0000
                                    Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 13:40 -0700
                                    Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-01 14:47 +0000
                                      Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 08:05 -0700
                                      Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-01 10:39 -0500
                                        Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-01 10:44 -0500
                                      Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-01 11:11 -0700
                                  Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 13:36 -0700
                                Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 13:35 -0700
                                Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-01 14:43 +0000
                                  Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-01 10:57 -0700
                            Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 13:31 -0700
                        Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 13:26 -0700
                          Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 13:50 -0700
                            Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 18:26 -0700
                              Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 18:36 -0700
                                Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 19:00 -0700
                                  Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 19:12 -0700
                                    Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 19:26 -0700
                                      Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 20:36 -0700
                                        Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 20:37 -0700
                                        Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 21:15 -0700
                                    Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 21:21 -0700
                Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-31 16:39 +0000
                  Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 10:50 -0700
                  Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 21:18 +0000
                    Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 17:46 -0700
                    Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-01 14:59 +0000
                      Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-01 08:20 -0700
                      Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-01 11:12 -0700
                        Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 09:26 -0700
                          Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-02 09:48 -0700
                            Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 10:36 -0700
                              Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-02 11:16 -0700
                                Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 11:32 -0700
                                  Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-02 11:43 -0700
                                    Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 12:21 -0700
                                      Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 12:34 -0700
                                      Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-02 12:39 -0700
                                        Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 12:42 -0700
                                          Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-02 13:02 -0700
                                            Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 13:20 -0700
                                            Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 13:25 -0700
                                              Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-02 13:32 -0700
                                                Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 14:09 -0700
                                              Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 17:13 -0700
                                        Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 12:49 -0700
                                      Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 13:05 -0700
              Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 09:17 -0700
              Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 21:15 +0000
                Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-01 14:58 +0000
                  Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-08-02 18:42 +0000
            Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 21:09 +0000
              Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 17:45 -0700
              Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-01 14:54 +0000
    Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 09:04 -0700
    Re: Danish Imam: Jihad Necessitates the Conquest of Europe Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 09:04 -0700

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#460601

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-07-31 14:00 -0500
Message-ID<v6c1md15q7vna4nlo85ndka8m8hu1t7eab@4ax.com>
In reply to#460589
Steve Carroll wrote:

>> >>>> But isn't the theory that they are mostly "laying low" for now, until
>> >>>> they can "breed us out" or, at least, gain more numbers?  Those new
>> >>>> generations will grow up in a quite-different place than what their
>> >>>> parents did.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> In those "all Muslim" areas, people have *no choice* but to accept the
>> >>>> indoctrination.  It is literally impossible to reject it, yet live
>> >>>> there.  The new generations will have options.  They will have
>> >>>> first-hand experience with different cultures and point of view.
>> >>>
>> >>> I agree with your point but let's say we open the borders completely.
>> >>
>> >> Why push that straw man?
>> > 
>> > Straw man? 
>> 
>> Yes: an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because 
>> it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.
>
>Earth to Snit: HIs real argument *already* isn't working that well in Europe.

Earth to "Steve":  My "real argument" is that future generations will
not be so indoctrinated.

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#460602

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-31 12:07 -0700
Message-ID<1a62e202-9cf2-451b-9232-b3686e17052c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#460601
On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 1:00:22 PM UTC-6, chrisv wrote:
> Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
> >> >>>> But isn't the theory that they are mostly "laying low" for now, until
> >> >>>> they can "breed us out" or, at least, gain more numbers?  Those new
> >> >>>> generations will grow up in a quite-different place than what their
> >> >>>> parents did.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> In those "all Muslim" areas, people have *no choice* but to accept the
> >> >>>> indoctrination.  It is literally impossible to reject it, yet live
> >> >>>> there.  The new generations will have options.  They will have
> >> >>>> first-hand experience with different cultures and point of view.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I agree with your point but let's say we open the borders completely.
> >> >>
> >> >> Why push that straw man?
> >> > 
> >> > Straw man? 
> >> 
> >> Yes: an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because 
> >> it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.
> >
> >Earth to Snit: HIs real argument *already* isn't working that well in Europe.
> 
> Earth to "Steve":  My "real argument" is that future generations will
> not be so indoctrinated.

Someday, perhaps... but maybe not; it doesn't really matter, though as your 
'argument' is essentially conjecture on what you'd like to believe will happen
(that doesn't work well today). the fact is people have not been getting along 
all throughout their history. Do we tailor our policies in reality or what we'd like
to see happen? We all know we do a bit of both, in this case: What's the ratio?

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#460610

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-07-31 12:49 -0700
Message-ID<fsbsr6FthtnU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#460602
On 7/31/18 12:07 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 1:00:22 PM UTC-6, chrisv wrote:
>> Steve Carroll wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> But isn't the theory that they are mostly "laying low" for now, until
>>>>>>>> they can "breed us out" or, at least, gain more numbers?  Those new
>>>>>>>> generations will grow up in a quite-different place than what their
>>>>>>>> parents did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In those "all Muslim" areas, people have *no choice* but to accept the
>>>>>>>> indoctrination.  It is literally impossible to reject it, yet live
>>>>>>>> there.  The new generations will have options.  They will have
>>>>>>>> first-hand experience with different cultures and point of view.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with your point but let's say we open the borders completely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why push that straw man?
>>>>>
>>>>> Straw man?
>>>>
>>>> Yes: an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because
>>>> it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.
>>>
>>> Earth to Snit: HIs real argument *already* isn't working that well in Europe.
>>
>> Earth to "Steve":  My "real argument" is that future generations will
>> not be so indoctrinated.
> 
> Someday, perhaps... but maybe not; it doesn't really matter, though as your
> 'argument' is essentially conjecture on what you'd like to believe will happen
> (that doesn't work well today). the fact is people have not been getting along
> all throughout their history. Do we tailor our policies in reality or what we'd like
> to see happen? We all know we do a bit of both, in this case: What's the ratio?

History shows that in the long run the bigoted views of people such as 
you and Slimer do become less and less common and less and less 
accepted. Heck, even in the last few years gays have gained equal rights 
to marry (in the US). Look how bigots fought against that and still are 
often bothered by it.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#460613

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-31 12:59 -0700
Message-ID<3e5ed654-900a-4120-9f04-6a8a18b201a4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#460610
On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 1:50:01 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> On 7/31/18 12:07 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 1:00:22 PM UTC-6, chrisv wrote:
> >> Steve Carroll wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>>>> But isn't the theory that they are mostly "laying low" for now, until
> >>>>>>>> they can "breed us out" or, at least, gain more numbers?  Those new
> >>>>>>>> generations will grow up in a quite-different place than what their
> >>>>>>>> parents did.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> In those "all Muslim" areas, people have *no choice* but to accept the
> >>>>>>>> indoctrination.  It is literally impossible to reject it, yet live
> >>>>>>>> there.  The new generations will have options.  They will have
> >>>>>>>> first-hand experience with different cultures and point of view.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I agree with your point but let's say we open the borders completely.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Why push that straw man?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Straw man?
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes: an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because
> >>>> it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.
> >>>
> >>> Earth to Snit: HIs real argument *already* isn't working that well in Europe.
> >>
> >> Earth to "Steve":  My "real argument" is that future generations will
> >> not be so indoctrinated.
> > 
> > Someday, perhaps... but maybe not; it doesn't really matter, though as your
> > 'argument' is essentially conjecture on what you'd like to believe will happen
> > (that doesn't work well today). the fact is people have not been getting along
> > all throughout their history. Do we tailor our policies in reality or what we'd like
> > to see happen? We all know we do a bit of both, in this case: What's the ratio?
> 
> History shows that in the long run the bigoted views of people such as 
> you and Slimer do become less and less common and less and less 
> accepted.

As you don't even know what the term "bigoted" means, your opinion on 
the topic holds no value. You disqualify yourself from rational discussion
because of things like this. Strangely, it doesn't seem to bother you <shrug>.

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#460626

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-07-31 13:38 -0700
Message-ID<fsbvm6Fu3g2U12@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#460613
On 7/31/18 12:59 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 1:50:01 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>> On 7/31/18 12:07 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 1:00:22 PM UTC-6, chrisv wrote:
>>>> Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But isn't the theory that they are mostly "laying low" for now, until
>>>>>>>>>> they can "breed us out" or, at least, gain more numbers?  Those new
>>>>>>>>>> generations will grow up in a quite-different place than what their
>>>>>>>>>> parents did.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In those "all Muslim" areas, people have *no choice* but to accept the
>>>>>>>>>> indoctrination.  It is literally impossible to reject it, yet live
>>>>>>>>>> there.  The new generations will have options.  They will have
>>>>>>>>>> first-hand experience with different cultures and point of view.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I agree with your point but let's say we open the borders completely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why push that straw man?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Straw man?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes: an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because
>>>>>> it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.
>>>>>
>>>>> Earth to Snit: HIs real argument *already* isn't working that well in Europe.
>>>>
>>>> Earth to "Steve":  My "real argument" is that future generations will
>>>> not be so indoctrinated.
>>>
>>> Someday, perhaps... but maybe not; it doesn't really matter, though as your
>>> 'argument' is essentially conjecture on what you'd like to believe will happen
>>> (that doesn't work well today). the fact is people have not been getting along
>>> all throughout their history. Do we tailor our policies in reality or what we'd like
>>> to see happen? We all know we do a bit of both, in this case: What's the ratio?
>>
>> History shows that in the long run the bigoted views of people such as
>> you and Slimer do become less and less common and less and less
>> accepted.
> 
> As you don't even know what the term "bigoted" means, your opinion on
> the topic holds no value. You disqualify yourself from rational discussion
> because of things like this. Strangely, it doesn't seem to bother you <shrug>.
> 

Once again you dodge and try to put me on the defensive with your lies 
and attacks.



-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#460666

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-07-31 20:40 -0700
Message-ID<2610974c-78dd-4985-aca3-ebb5a7e69a8d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#460602
On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 12:07:18 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 1:00:22 PM UTC-6, chrisv wrote:
> > Steve Carroll wrote:
> > 
> > >> >>>> But isn't the theory that they are mostly "laying low" for now, until
> > >> >>>> they can "breed us out" or, at least, gain more numbers?  Those new
> > >> >>>> generations will grow up in a quite-different place than what their
> > >> >>>> parents did.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> In those "all Muslim" areas, people have *no choice* but to accept the
> > >> >>>> indoctrination.  It is literally impossible to reject it, yet live
> > >> >>>> there.  The new generations will have options.  They will have
> > >> >>>> first-hand experience with different cultures and point of view.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I agree with your point but let's say we open the borders completely.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Why push that straw man?
> > >> > 
> > >> > Straw man? 
> > >> 
> > >> Yes: an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because 
> > >> it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.
> > >
> > >Earth to Snit: HIs real argument *already* isn't working that well in Europe.
> > 
> > Earth to "Steve":  My "real argument" is that future generations will
> > not be so indoctrinated.
> 
> Someday, perhaps... but maybe not; it doesn't really matter, though as your 
> 'argument' is essentially conjecture on what you'd like to believe will happen
> (that doesn't work well today). the fact is people have not been getting along 
> all throughout their history. Do we tailor our policies in reality or what we'd like
> to see happen? We all know we do a bit of both, in this case: What's the ratio?



By getting an education from 'teachers' like that you get terms like 'profiling'. Carried to its (un)reasonable solution, the concept that it's 'immoral' for a conservative male to not wish to date a transvestite is created. After the latest update I no longer have to issue 'xrandr --auto' every time I login ;) Habits change. I think the idea of a newspaper is getting ridiculous. Just look at your junk and look at Sandman's, there is nothing for me to learn from a fool like Sigmond. But so be it, let him keep making a moron of himself. At times, fiction is more valuable than faithful descriptions of reality. I have a custom setup I use as well, but it's better than yours. So, yeah, I buy into my own inner world, fully knowing it's fake, because it makes me reconsider my program, improving it. 

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#460603

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-07-31 19:10 +0000
Message-ID<azxv9083.ayhbuo4@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#460601
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
>>> >>>> But isn't the theory that they are mostly "laying low" for now, until
>>> >>>> they can "breed us out" or, at least, gain more numbers?  Those new
>>> >>>> generations will grow up in a quite-different place than what their
>>> >>>> parents did.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> In those "all Muslim" areas, people have *no choice* but to accept the
>>> >>>> indoctrination.  It is literally impossible to reject it, yet live
>>> >>>> there.  The new generations will have options.  They will have
>>> >>>> first-hand experience with different cultures and point of view.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I agree with your point but let's say we open the borders completely.
>>> >>
>>> >> Why push that straw man?
>>> > 
>>> > Straw man? 
>>> 
>>> Yes: an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because 
>>> it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.
>>
>>Earth to Snit: HIs real argument *already* isn't working that well in Europe.
> 
> Earth to "Steve":  My "real argument" is that future generations will
> not be so indoctrinated.
> 

Your argument requires that they will assimilate, which they are not
doing.  And since future generations in their home countries will not
be similarly exposed to these new cultural choices, nothing is changing
from a generational perspective except the pollution of Europe with
savage hordes.  Just leave them all at home.

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#460604

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-07-31 14:32 -0500
Message-ID<40e1mdtenbaqq8gd9ggri300cqj3ojn1no@4ax.com>
In reply to#460603
owl wrote:

>Your argument requires that they will assimilate, which they are not
>doing.  

Yes they are.  I know some.  It will take longer for some, of course.

All immigrants tend to stay with their own kind, at first.

>And since future generations in their home countries will not
>be similarly exposed to these new cultural choices, 

Try to stay with the discussion.

We are talking about people who have left their home countries.

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#460608

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-07-31 19:47 +0000
Message-ID<9zv803age4a.y@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#460604
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> owl wrote:
> 
>>Your argument requires that they will assimilate, which they are not
>>doing.  
> 
> Yes they are.  I know some.  It will take longer for some, of course.
>
> All immigrants tend to stay with their own kind, at first.
> 

Where they continue to be indoctrinated and radicalized.  Only now
they're at your back door.


>>And since future generations in their home countries will not
>>be similarly exposed to these new cultural choices, 
> 
> Try to stay with the discussion.
> 
> We are talking about people who have left their home countries.
> 

Chrisv: "future generations will not be so indoctrinated."
Of course they will. 

There can be only one outcome from this libtard insanity.  And when that
genocidal backlash takes place, you will have yourselves to blame.  But
you guys love a good guilt trip, so no biggie, right?

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#460611

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-07-31 14:56 -0500
Message-ID<bff1mdd7p4ovjh0qflcsbqm5ll8gk96s9p@4ax.com>
In reply to#460608
owl wrote:

>chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> All immigrants tend to stay with their own kind, at first.
>
>Where they continue to be indoctrinated and radicalized.  

Nope.  A lot of them are immediately grateful, in fact.  A lot of them
immediately recognize a better opportunity for them and their
families.

>Only now they're at your back door.

Already covered.

<3jq0mdpriqm9vjfl4hgp77su9rrd9l2li9@4ax.com>

>> We are talking about people who have left their home countries.
>
>Chrisv: "future generations will not be so indoctrinated."
>Of course they will. 

Of course they won't.

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#460614

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-07-31 20:05 +0000
Message-ID<ac9z0803gaa.y8@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#460611
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> owl wrote:
> 
>>chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> All immigrants tend to stay with their own kind, at first.
>>
>>Where they continue to be indoctrinated and radicalized.  
> 
> Nope.  A lot of them are immediately grateful, in fact.  A lot of them
> immediately recognize a better opportunity for them and their
> families.
> 

That's what they tell you.  When you leave, they laugh at you.


>>Only now they're at your back door.
> 
> Already covered.
> 
> <3jq0mdpriqm9vjfl4hgp77su9rrd9l2li9@4ax.com>
> 
>>> We are talking about people who have left their home countries.
>>
>>Chrisv: "future generations will not be so indoctrinated."
>>Of course they will. 
> 
> Of course they won't.
> 

What will you replace it with?

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#460627

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-07-31 13:40 -0700
Message-ID<fsbvpcFu3g2U13@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#460614
On 7/31/18 1:05 PM, owl wrote:
> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> owl wrote:
>>
>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> All immigrants tend to stay with their own kind, at first.
>>>
>>> Where they continue to be indoctrinated and radicalized.
>>
>> Nope.  A lot of them are immediately grateful, in fact.  A lot of them
>> immediately recognize a better opportunity for them and their
>> families.
> 
> That's what they tell you.  When you leave, they laugh at you.

Ah, now you speak for whole groups of people without their 
authorization. What a strong argument!

Face it, other than that they are mostly neither white nor Christian you 
have not said what "they" are doing.

>>> Only now they're at your back door.
>>
>> Already covered.
>>
>> <3jq0mdpriqm9vjfl4hgp77su9rrd9l2li9@4ax.com>
>>
>>>> We are talking about people who have left their home countries.
>>>
>>> Chrisv: "future generations will not be so indoctrinated."
>>> Of course they will.
>>
>> Of course they won't.
>>
> 
> What will you replace it with?
> 


-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#460718

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-08-01 14:47 +0000
Message-ID<PJj8D.448518$Hv4.434094@fx39.iad>
In reply to#460614
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 20:05:37 +0000, owl wrote:

> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> owl wrote:
>> 
>>>chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> All immigrants tend to stay with their own kind, at first.
>>>
>>>Where they continue to be indoctrinated and radicalized.
>> 
>> Nope.  A lot of them are immediately grateful, in fact.  A lot of them
>> immediately recognize a better opportunity for them and their families.
>> 
>> 
> That's what they tell you.  When you leave, they laugh at you.

We got a few of these "grateful" Muslims here in Quebec actually. 

<https://www.therebel.media/
exclusive_refugees_fight_canadians_with_rocks_bricks>

They threw rocks and bricks at the families next door and denied it when 
confronted.

-- 
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Ubuntu 18.04 on MSI GT72 2QD
Proudly blocking Facebook, Twitter and Youtube
Liberals will be killfiled

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#460725

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-08-01 08:05 -0700
Message-ID<e6f20f7a-e5bc-48da-a47b-d36682bf3d4c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#460718
On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 7:47:13 AM UTC-7, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 20:05:37 +0000, owl wrote:
> 
> > chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >> owl wrote:
> >> 
> >>>chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> All immigrants tend to stay with their own kind, at first.
> >>>
> >>>Where they continue to be indoctrinated and radicalized.
> >> 
> >> Nope.  A lot of them are immediately grateful, in fact.  A lot of them
> >> immediately recognize a better opportunity for them and their families.
> >> 
> >> 
> > That's what they tell you.  When you leave, they laugh at you.
> 
> We got a few of these "grateful" Muslims here in Quebec actually. 
> 
> <https://www.therebel.media/
> exclusive_refugees_fight_canadians_with_rocks_bricks>
> 
> They threw rocks and bricks at the families next door and denied it when 
> confronted.
> 
> -- 
> SilverSlimer
> Ubuntu 18.04 on MSI GT72 2QD
> Proudly blocking Facebook, Twitter and Youtube
> Liberals will be killfiled



My view point: Even if you were just learning just for fun, the notion that attaining wisdom as being one of having "nothing" to show for it doesn't work for me because you'll obviously have the wisdom to show for it and intelligence is something you can show off. 

That is the problem 'today' and younger teachers don't care at all, people from earlier generations (~50 or so) SHOULD know better than to fall for communism. Usenet is a free protocol based on an honor system that Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh lacks. You guys can only speculate from the viewpoint of a programmer. Once Troll Killer Snit grokked how successful Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh is at playing 'victim' he has figured out this isn't as unbelievable as it was claimed. It's a long story, and Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh is simultaneously unable to stop his trolling remarks, while posting with nyms that speak just like him. 

Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh can not help but realize Troll Killer Snit knows he is just trolling. Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh and Troll Killer Snit both lie ceaselessly and shamelessly and continue to do so. So no motivation in showing any further kindness or control. 

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#460733

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-08-01 10:39 -0500
Message-ID<ftk3md5bf2m7ui40b6rcaul73cavpkp36u@4ax.com>
In reply to#460718
SilverSlimer wrote:

> (snipped, unread)

The four other "Slimer" postings of the last couple hours were also
deleted, unread.

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#460737

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-08-01 10:44 -0500
Message-ID<1al3mdh3ahsqacnn3nd3jmggv8lduku9lv@4ax.com>
In reply to#460733
chrisv wrote:

>SilverSlimer wrote:
>
>> (snipped, unread)
>
>The four other "Slimer" postings of the last couple hours were also
>deleted, unread.

Five total in this thread, I meant.  Abount ten in the newsgroup.

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#460761

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-08-01 11:11 -0700
Message-ID<fsebdqFg2ovU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#460718
On 8/1/18 7:47 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 20:05:37 +0000, owl wrote:
> 
>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> owl wrote:
>>>
>>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> All immigrants tend to stay with their own kind, at first.
>>>>
>>>> Where they continue to be indoctrinated and radicalized.
>>>
>>> Nope.  A lot of them are immediately grateful, in fact.  A lot of them
>>> immediately recognize a better opportunity for them and their families.
>>>
>>>
>> That's what they tell you.  When you leave, they laugh at you.
> 
> We got a few of these "grateful" Muslims here in Quebec actually.
> 
> <https://www.therebel.media/
> exclusive_refugees_fight_canadians_with_rocks_bricks>
> 
> They threw rocks and bricks at the families next door and denied it when
> confronted.
> 
Have you ever looked up the concept of confirmation bias?

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#460624

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-07-31 13:36 -0700
Message-ID<fsbvhvFu3g2U10@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#460611
On 7/31/18 12:56 PM, chrisv wrote:
> owl wrote:
> 
>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> All immigrants tend to stay with their own kind, at first.
>>
>> Where they continue to be indoctrinated and radicalized.
> 
> Nope.  A lot of them are immediately grateful, in fact.  A lot of them
> immediately recognize a better opportunity for them and their
> families.

Most are neither white nor Christian, and thus many on the right do not 
like or trust them.

>> Only now they're at your back door.
> 
> Already covered.
> 
> <3jq0mdpriqm9vjfl4hgp77su9rrd9l2li9@4ax.com>
> 
>>> We are talking about people who have left their home countries.
>>
>> Chrisv: "future generations will not be so indoctrinated."
>> Of course they will.
> 
> Of course they won't.
> 


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#460623

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-07-31 13:35 -0700
Message-ID<fsbvgtFu3g2U9@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#460608
On 7/31/18 12:47 PM, owl wrote:
> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> owl wrote:
>>
>>> Your argument requires that they will assimilate, which they are not
>>> doing.
>>
>> Yes they are.  I know some.  It will take longer for some, of course.
>>
>> All immigrants tend to stay with their own kind, at first.
>>
> 
> Where they continue to be indoctrinated and radicalized.  Only now
> they're at your back door.

What radical belief do you think it requires to try to protect your family?

>>> And since future generations in their home countries will not
>>> be similarly exposed to these new cultural choices,
>>
>> Try to stay with the discussion.
>>
>> We are talking about people who have left their home countries.
>>
> 
> Chrisv: "future generations will not be so indoctrinated."
> Of course they will.
> 
> There can be only one outcome from this libtard insanity.  And when that
> genocidal backlash takes place, you will have yourselves to blame.  But
> you guys love a good guilt trip, so no biggie, right?
> 


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#460717

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-08-01 14:43 +0000
Message-ID<xGj8D.448517$Hv4.12292@fx39.iad>
In reply to#460608
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 19:47:22 +0000, owl wrote:

> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> owl wrote:
>> 
>>>Your argument requires that they will assimilate, which they are not
>>>doing.
>> 
>> Yes they are.  I know some.  It will take longer for some, of course.
>>
>> All immigrants tend to stay with their own kind, at first.
>> 
>> 
> Where they continue to be indoctrinated and radicalized.  Only now
> they're at your back door.
> 
> 
>>>And since future generations in their home countries will not be
>>>similarly exposed to these new cultural choices,
>> 
>> Try to stay with the discussion.
>> 
>> We are talking about people who have left their home countries.
>> 
>> 
> Chrisv: "future generations will not be so indoctrinated."
> Of course they will.
> 
> There can be only one outcome from this libtard insanity.  And when that
> genocidal backlash takes place, you will have yourselves to blame.  But
> you guys love a good guilt trip, so no biggie, right?

The liberals in Lebanon and Syria said the same thing as the ones in the 
current United Kingdom, Sweden, France and Belgium do. Soon thereafter, 
they suffered from a civil war in which Christians had to hide 
underground and fetch water in the middle of the night to survive (see 
Brigitte Gabriel for an excellent example). Once it was over, the Muslims 
were clearly in charge and even the "moderates" had become fanatics (it's 
debatable as to whether they were ever moderate to begin with considering 
how Islam allows Muslims to lie about who they are so long as the end 
result is the growth of the "religion"). 

I'd say that people like snitv, Snit, snittor, Snit Ahlstrom and Snit 
Köhlmann have a difference of opinion, but the reality is that they are 
naive and ignorant.



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