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  Linux crapware fails basic usability: can't remember the last place you opened a file from DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-24 00:53 -0400
    Re: Linux crapware fails basic usability: can't remember the last place you opened a file from Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-24 09:13 -0400
    Re: Linux crapware fails basic usability: can't remember the last place you opened a file from vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-24 07:16 -0700
      Re: Linux crapware fails basic usability: can't remember the last place you opened a file from vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-24 07:34 -0700
        Re: Linux crapware fails basic usability: can't remember the last place you opened a file from ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-04-24 20:47 +0000
          Re: Linux crapware fails basic usability: can't remember the last place you opened a file from vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-24 22:49 -0700
      Re: Linux crapware fails basic usability: can't remember the last place you opened a file from DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-24 10:42 -0400
        Re: Linux crapware fails basic usability: can't remember the last place you opened a file from vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-24 08:39 -0700
          Re: Linux crapware fails basic usability: can't remember the last place you opened a file from DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-24 12:13 -0400
            Re: Linux crapware fails basic usability: can't remember the last place you opened a file from vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-24 09:50 -0700
              Re: Linux crapware fails basic usability: can't remember the last place you opened a file from DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-25 09:17 -0400
                Re: Linux crapware fails basic usability: can't remember the last place you opened a file from vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-25 14:24 -0700
          Re: Linux crapware fails basic usability: can't remember the last place you opened a file from GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-24 11:45 -0600
          Re: Linux crapware fails basic usability: can't remember the last place you opened a file from ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-04-24 20:49 +0000
    What a putz that DooF..uS be, or should I say Penis? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-04-24 07:49 -0700
      Re: What a putz that DooF..uS be, or should I say Penis? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-24 10:52 -0400
    Re: Linux crapware fails basic usability: can't remember the last place you opened a file from owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-24 21:00 +0000
      Re: Linux crapware fails basic usability: can't remember the last place you opened a file from DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-25 09:16 -0400
        Re: Linux crapware fails basic usability: can't remember the last place you opened a file from owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-25 16:06 +0000
          Re: Linux crapware fails basic usability: can't remember the last place you opened a file from DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-27 08:55 -0400

#291290 — Linux crapware fails basic usability: can't remember the last place you opened a file from

Mint 17.1 'Rebecca' Cinnamon 64-bit.

Log File Viewer  (found in Administration)

Every time you go to open a log file, it starts back at /home/<user>/.

And you can't choose multiple logs to open all at once.

You want to open 10 log files?  Get ready to navigate the filesystem 10x.


Linux won

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#291358

On 2015-04-24 12:53 AM, DFS wrote:
> Mint 17.1 'Rebecca' Cinnamon 64-bit.
>
> Log File Viewer  (found in Administration)
>
> Every time you go to open a log file, it starts back at /home/<user>/.
>
> And you can't choose multiple logs to open all at once.
>
> You want to open 10 log files?  Get ready to navigate the filesystem 10x.
>
>
> Linux won

Flawless victory... FATALITY!

(for those who get the reference)

-- 
Slimer
Encrypt.

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#291386

On 04/23/2015 09:53 PM, DFS wrote:
> Mint 17.1 'Rebecca' Cinnamon 64-bit.
> 
> Log File Viewer  (found in Administration)
> 
> Every time you go to open a log file, it starts back at /home/<user>/.
> 
> And you can't choose multiple logs to open all at once.
> 
> You want to open 10 log files?  Get ready to navigate the filesystem 10x.
> 
> 
> Linux won
> 

Unconfirmed.  You're going to have to be more specific about the name of
your application.

I'm running Mint 17, which has no "log file viewer" under "System
Administration" in Synaptic.  I also don't have an "Administration"
submenu in my xfce menu.

I'm using System Upgrade to upgrade to Mint 17.1 now, then I'll see if
said submenu appears.

Of course, this could be something Cinnamon-specific, in which case I
will need to install Cinnamon to verify what you are seeing.

-- 
 -v

Volcanoes have a grandeur that is grim
And earthquakes only terrify the dolts,
And to him who's scientific
There is nothing that's terrific
In the pattern of a flight of thunderbolts!
		-- W. S. Gilbert, "The Mikado"

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#291390

On 04/24/2015 07:16 AM, vallor wrote:
> On 04/23/2015 09:53 PM, DFS wrote:
>> Mint 17.1 'Rebecca' Cinnamon 64-bit.
>>
>> Log File Viewer  (found in Administration)
>>
>> Every time you go to open a log file, it starts back at /home/<user>/.
>>
>> And you can't choose multiple logs to open all at once.
>>
>> You want to open 10 log files?  Get ready to navigate the filesystem 10x.
>>
>>
>> Linux won
>>
> 
> Unconfirmed.  You're going to have to be more specific about the name of
> your application.
> 
> I'm running Mint 17, which has no "log file viewer" under "System
> Administration" in Synaptic.  I also don't have an "Administration"
> submenu in my xfce menu.
> 
> I'm using System Upgrade to upgrade to Mint 17.1 now, then I'll see if
> said submenu appears.
> 
> Of course, this could be something Cinnamon-specific, in which case I
> will need to install Cinnamon to verify what you are seeing.
> 

Upgraded to 17.1, installed Cinnamon, looked under "Administration" --
didn't see anything under "log file viewer".

You want to tell us what you are using, or is it a secret?

-- 
 -v

Those who do things in a noble spirit of
self-sacrifice are to be avoided at all costs.
		-- N. Alexander.

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#291480

On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 07:34:12 -0700, vallor wrote:

> Upgraded to 17.1, installed Cinnamon, looked under "Administration" --
> didn't see anything under "log file viewer".
> 
> You want to tell us what you are using, or is it a secret?

In Mate it's under System Tools (not Administration) -- but I have no 
idea what the OP's complaint is.

-- 
To WinDrones and iCultists obsessed with Linux. Get a life.

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#291529

On 04/24/2015 01:47 PM, ronb wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 07:34:12 -0700, vallor wrote:
> 
>> Upgraded to 17.1, installed Cinnamon, looked under "Administration" --
>> didn't see anything under "log file viewer".
>>
>> You want to tell us what you are using, or is it a secret?
> 
> In Mate it's under System Tools (not Administration) -- but I have no 
> idea what the OP's complaint is.
> 

If you open a log file in your home directory with the app, it will
remember your home directory -- and it's not immediately apparent how to
get it to go back to defaulting to /var/log.

Solution:  Create a bookmark for /var/log.  Now it will be easy to get
to the directory, _and_ it will remember to use the directory after
using the bookmark.

It's a flaw with how gnome handles its last-directory-open logic (or at
least, in that application), but I'm not inclined to report it as a bug
with such a simply workaround.

-- 
 -v

This sentence does in fact not have the property it claims not to have.

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#291392

On 04/24/2015 10:16 AM, vallor wrote:
> On 04/23/2015 09:53 PM, DFS wrote:
>> Mint 17.1 'Rebecca' Cinnamon 64-bit.
>>
>> Log File Viewer  (found in Administration)
>>
>> Every time you go to open a log file, it starts back at /home/<user>/.
>>
>> And you can't choose multiple logs to open all at once.
>>
>> You want to open 10 log files?  Get ready to navigate the filesystem 10x.
>>
>>
>> Linux won
>>
>
> Unconfirmed.

That's why I confirmed it for you. ;)


> You're going to have to be more specific about the name of
> your application.


Log Viewer
3.4.1
'A system log viewer for GNOME'


I see the problem: "Copyright 1998-2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc."

It's FOSS.



> I'm running Mint 17, which has no "log file viewer" under "System
> Administration" in Synaptic.  I also don't have an "Administration"
> submenu in my xfce menu.
>
> I'm using System Upgrade to upgrade to Mint 17.1 now, then I'll see if
> said submenu appears.
>
> Of course, this could be something Cinnamon-specific, in which case I
> will need to install Cinnamon to verify what you are seeing.


It probably is Cinnamon-specific, since Cinnamon started as a fork of Gnome.

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#291406

On 04/24/2015 07:42 AM, DFS wrote:
> On 04/24/2015 10:16 AM, vallor wrote:
>> On 04/23/2015 09:53 PM, DFS wrote:
>>> Mint 17.1 'Rebecca' Cinnamon 64-bit.
>>>
>>> Log File Viewer  (found in Administration)
>>>
>>> Every time you go to open a log file, it starts back at /home/<user>/.
>>>
>>> And you can't choose multiple logs to open all at once.
>>>
>>> You want to open 10 log files?  Get ready to navigate the filesystem
>>> 10x.
>>>
>>>
>>> Linux won
>>>
>>
>> Unconfirmed.
> 
> That's why I confirmed it for you. ;)
> 
> 
>> You're going to have to be more specific about the name of
>> your application.
> 
> 
> Log Viewer
> 3.4.1
> 'A system log viewer for GNOME'
> 
> 
> I see the problem: "Copyright 1998-2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc."
> 
> It's FOSS.
> 
> 
> 
>> I'm running Mint 17, which has no "log file viewer" under "System
>> Administration" in Synaptic.  I also don't have an "Administration"
>> submenu in my xfce menu.
>>
>> I'm using System Upgrade to upgrade to Mint 17.1 now, then I'll see if
>> said submenu appears.
>>
>> Of course, this could be something Cinnamon-specific, in which case I
>> will need to install Cinnamon to verify what you are seeing.
> 
> 
> It probably is Cinnamon-specific, since Cinnamon started as a fork of
> Gnome.
> 
> 

Found it.  The program is called "gnome-system-log", and it's a generic
Gnome application.

Here's what it looks like on my system:

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ldFbiiwMQ

Why it would act differently on your system escapes me, unless it's
perhaps some weird Cinnamon-specific build or something.

-- 
 -v

Promptness is its own reward, if one lives by the clock instead of the
sword.

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#291418

On 4/24/2015 11:39 AM, vallor wrote:
> On 04/24/2015 07:42 AM, DFS wrote:
>> On 04/24/2015 10:16 AM, vallor wrote:
>>> On 04/23/2015 09:53 PM, DFS wrote:
>>>> Mint 17.1 'Rebecca' Cinnamon 64-bit.
>>>>
>>>> Log File Viewer  (found in Administration)
>>>>
>>>> Every time you go to open a log file, it starts back at /home/<user>/.
>>>>
>>>> And you can't choose multiple logs to open all at once.
>>>>
>>>> You want to open 10 log files?  Get ready to navigate the filesystem
>>>> 10x.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Linux won
>>>>
>>>
>>> Unconfirmed.
>>
>> That's why I confirmed it for you. ;)
>>
>>
>>> You're going to have to be more specific about the name of
>>> your application.
>>
>>
>> Log Viewer
>> 3.4.1
>> 'A system log viewer for GNOME'
>>
>>
>> I see the problem: "Copyright 1998-2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc."
>>
>> It's FOSS.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I'm running Mint 17, which has no "log file viewer" under "System
>>> Administration" in Synaptic.  I also don't have an "Administration"
>>> submenu in my xfce menu.
>>>
>>> I'm using System Upgrade to upgrade to Mint 17.1 now, then I'll see if
>>> said submenu appears.
>>>
>>> Of course, this could be something Cinnamon-specific, in which case I
>>> will need to install Cinnamon to verify what you are seeing.
>>
>>
>> It probably is Cinnamon-specific, since Cinnamon started as a fork of
>> Gnome.
>>
>>
>
> Found it.  The program is called "gnome-system-log", and it's a generic
> Gnome application.
>
> Here's what it looks like on my system:
>
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ldFbiiwMQ
>
> Why it would act differently on your system escapes me, unless it's
> perhaps some weird Cinnamon-specific build or something.


Does yours start first and every time at /var/log?  If you can, copy a 
log file to another folder, then use the Viewer to open it from there, 
then see if the Viewer starts back at /var/log after that  (which is 
where it should start).

Mine started at, and always defaults back to, /home/dfs.  It's a hassle. 
  At least the logs stay in the list once you open them.

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#291433

On 04/24/2015 09:13 AM, DFS wrote:
> On 4/24/2015 11:39 AM, vallor wrote:
>> On 04/24/2015 07:42 AM, DFS wrote:
>>> On 04/24/2015 10:16 AM, vallor wrote:
>>>> On 04/23/2015 09:53 PM, DFS wrote:
>>>>> Mint 17.1 'Rebecca' Cinnamon 64-bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Log File Viewer  (found in Administration)
>>>>>
>>>>> Every time you go to open a log file, it starts back at /home/<user>/.
>>>>>
>>>>> And you can't choose multiple logs to open all at once.
>>>>>
>>>>> You want to open 10 log files?  Get ready to navigate the filesystem
>>>>> 10x.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux won
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unconfirmed.
>>>
>>> That's why I confirmed it for you. ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>> You're going to have to be more specific about the name of
>>>> your application.
>>>
>>>
>>> Log Viewer
>>> 3.4.1
>>> 'A system log viewer for GNOME'
>>>
>>>
>>> I see the problem: "Copyright 1998-2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc."
>>>
>>> It's FOSS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm running Mint 17, which has no "log file viewer" under "System
>>>> Administration" in Synaptic.  I also don't have an "Administration"
>>>> submenu in my xfce menu.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using System Upgrade to upgrade to Mint 17.1 now, then I'll see if
>>>> said submenu appears.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, this could be something Cinnamon-specific, in which case I
>>>> will need to install Cinnamon to verify what you are seeing.
>>>
>>>
>>> It probably is Cinnamon-specific, since Cinnamon started as a fork of
>>> Gnome.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Found it.  The program is called "gnome-system-log", and it's a generic
>> Gnome application.
>>
>> Here's what it looks like on my system:
>>
>>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ldFbiiwMQ
>>
>> Why it would act differently on your system escapes me, unless it's
>> perhaps some weird Cinnamon-specific build or something.
> 
> 
> Does yours start first and every time at /var/log?  If you can, copy a
> log file to another folder, then use the Viewer to open it from there,
> then see if the Viewer starts back at /var/log after that  (which is
> where it should start).
> 
> Mine started at, and always defaults back to, /home/dfs.  It's a hassle.
>  At least the logs stay in the list once you open them.
> 
> 
> 
> 

Yep, now that I've opened a log in /home/scott, it won't go back to
opening them in /var/log.

So do a File > Open, then navigate to /var/log, then drag-drop the [log]
square at the top into the "Bookmarks" on the left.  Now it will work
right -- and if it gets lost again (say, after opening a log file in
/home/dfs), then just click the bookmark.

-- 
 -v

Parkinson's Fourth Law:
	The number of people in any working group tends to increase
	regardless of the amount of work to be done.

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#291534

On 04/24/2015 12:50 PM, vallor wrote:
> On 04/24/2015 09:13 AM, DFS wrote:
>> On 4/24/2015 11:39 AM, vallor wrote:
>>> On 04/24/2015 07:42 AM, DFS wrote:
>>>> On 04/24/2015 10:16 AM, vallor wrote:
>>>>> On 04/23/2015 09:53 PM, DFS wrote:
>>>>>> Mint 17.1 'Rebecca' Cinnamon 64-bit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Log File Viewer  (found in Administration)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Every time you go to open a log file, it starts back at /home/<user>/.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And you can't choose multiple logs to open all at once.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You want to open 10 log files?  Get ready to navigate the filesystem
>>>>>> 10x.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux won
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unconfirmed.
>>>>
>>>> That's why I confirmed it for you. ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You're going to have to be more specific about the name of
>>>>> your application.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Log Viewer
>>>> 3.4.1
>>>> 'A system log viewer for GNOME'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I see the problem: "Copyright 1998-2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc."
>>>>
>>>> It's FOSS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'm running Mint 17, which has no "log file viewer" under "System
>>>>> Administration" in Synaptic.  I also don't have an "Administration"
>>>>> submenu in my xfce menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using System Upgrade to upgrade to Mint 17.1 now, then I'll see if
>>>>> said submenu appears.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, this could be something Cinnamon-specific, in which case I
>>>>> will need to install Cinnamon to verify what you are seeing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It probably is Cinnamon-specific, since Cinnamon started as a fork of
>>>> Gnome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Found it.  The program is called "gnome-system-log", and it's a generic
>>> Gnome application.
>>>
>>> Here's what it looks like on my system:
>>>
>>>      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ldFbiiwMQ
>>>
>>> Why it would act differently on your system escapes me, unless it's
>>> perhaps some weird Cinnamon-specific build or something.
>>
>>
>> Does yours start first and every time at /var/log?  If you can, copy a
>> log file to another folder, then use the Viewer to open it from there,
>> then see if the Viewer starts back at /var/log after that  (which is
>> where it should start).
>>
>> Mine started at, and always defaults back to, /home/dfs.  It's a hassle.
>>   At least the logs stay in the list once you open them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Yep, now that I've opened a log in /home/scott, it won't go back to
> opening them in /var/log.
>
> So do a File > Open, then navigate to /var/log, then drag-drop the [log]
> square at the top into the "Bookmarks" on the left.  Now it will work
> right -- and if it gets lost again (say, after opening a log file in
> /home/dfs), then just click the bookmark.

No can do.  When I click and drag, the log square turns into a little 
ABC document pic that moves with the mouse, but it doesn't stay in the 
'bookmark' list when I try to drop it.  The little ABC document image 
fades away as it moves back to the log square and nothing changes in the 
'bookmarks'.

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#291571

On 04/25/2015 06:17 AM, DFS wrote:
> On 04/24/2015 12:50 PM, vallor wrote:
>> On 04/24/2015 09:13 AM, DFS wrote:
>>> On 4/24/2015 11:39 AM, vallor wrote:
>>>> On 04/24/2015 07:42 AM, DFS wrote:
>>>>> On 04/24/2015 10:16 AM, vallor wrote:
>>>>>> On 04/23/2015 09:53 PM, DFS wrote:
>>>>>>> Mint 17.1 'Rebecca' Cinnamon 64-bit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Log File Viewer  (found in Administration)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Every time you go to open a log file, it starts back at
>>>>>>> /home/<user>/.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And you can't choose multiple logs to open all at once.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You want to open 10 log files?  Get ready to navigate the filesystem
>>>>>>> 10x.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linux won
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unconfirmed.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's why I confirmed it for you. ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> You're going to have to be more specific about the name of
>>>>>> your application.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Log Viewer
>>>>> 3.4.1
>>>>> 'A system log viewer for GNOME'
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I see the problem: "Copyright 1998-2008 Free Software Foundation,
>>>>> Inc."
>>>>>
>>>>> It's FOSS.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm running Mint 17, which has no "log file viewer" under "System
>>>>>> Administration" in Synaptic.  I also don't have an "Administration"
>>>>>> submenu in my xfce menu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using System Upgrade to upgrade to Mint 17.1 now, then I'll
>>>>>> see if
>>>>>> said submenu appears.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, this could be something Cinnamon-specific, in which case I
>>>>>> will need to install Cinnamon to verify what you are seeing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It probably is Cinnamon-specific, since Cinnamon started as a fork of
>>>>> Gnome.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Found it.  The program is called "gnome-system-log", and it's a generic
>>>> Gnome application.
>>>>
>>>> Here's what it looks like on my system:
>>>>
>>>>      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ldFbiiwMQ
>>>>
>>>> Why it would act differently on your system escapes me, unless it's
>>>> perhaps some weird Cinnamon-specific build or something.
>>>
>>>
>>> Does yours start first and every time at /var/log?  If you can, copy a
>>> log file to another folder, then use the Viewer to open it from there,
>>> then see if the Viewer starts back at /var/log after that  (which is
>>> where it should start).
>>>
>>> Mine started at, and always defaults back to, /home/dfs.  It's a hassle.
>>>   At least the logs stay in the list once you open them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yep, now that I've opened a log in /home/scott, it won't go back to
>> opening them in /var/log.
>>
>> So do a File > Open, then navigate to /var/log, then drag-drop the [log]
>> square at the top into the "Bookmarks" on the left.  Now it will work
>> right -- and if it gets lost again (say, after opening a log file in
>> /home/dfs), then just click the bookmark.
> 
> No can do.  When I click and drag, the log square turns into a little
> ABC document pic that moves with the mouse, but it doesn't stay in the
> 'bookmark' list when I try to drop it.  The little ABC document image
> fades away as it moves back to the log square and nothing changes in the
> 'bookmarks'.
> 
> 

That's...odd.

Try created the bookmark in the file manager?  Maybe that application is
just hosed in the way it uses Gnome under Cinnamon...

-- 
 -v

What's all this bru-ha-ha?

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#291452

vallor wrote:

> On 04/24/2015 07:42 AM, DFS wrote:
>> On 04/24/2015 10:16 AM, vallor wrote:
>>> On 04/23/2015 09:53 PM, DFS wrote:
>>>> Mint 17.1 'Rebecca' Cinnamon 64-bit.
>>>>
>>>> Log File Viewer  (found in Administration)
>>>>
>>>> Every time you go to open a log file, it starts back at /home/<user>/.
>>>>
>>>> And you can't choose multiple logs to open all at once.
>>>>
>>>> You want to open 10 log files?  Get ready to navigate the filesystem
>>>> 10x.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Linux won
>>>>
>>>
>>> Unconfirmed.
>> 
>> That's why I confirmed it for you. ;)
>> 
>> 
>>> You're going to have to be more specific about the name of
>>> your application.
>> 
>> 
>> Log Viewer
>> 3.4.1
>> 'A system log viewer for GNOME'
>> 
>> 
>> I see the problem: "Copyright 1998-2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc."
>> 
>> It's FOSS.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> I'm running Mint 17, which has no "log file viewer" under "System
>>> Administration" in Synaptic.  I also don't have an "Administration"
>>> submenu in my xfce menu.
>>>
>>> I'm using System Upgrade to upgrade to Mint 17.1 now, then I'll see if
>>> said submenu appears.
>>>
>>> Of course, this could be something Cinnamon-specific, in which case I
>>> will need to install Cinnamon to verify what you are seeing.
>> 
>> 
>> It probably is Cinnamon-specific, since Cinnamon started as a fork of
>> Gnome.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Found it.  The program is called "gnome-system-log", and it's a generic
> Gnome application.
> 
> Here's what it looks like on my system:
> 
>    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ldFbiiwMQ
> 
> Why it would act differently on your system escapes me, unless it's
> perhaps some weird Cinnamon-specific build or something.
> 

Looks like the Apple log viewer... almost identical.

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#291481

On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 08:39:23 -0700, vallor wrote:

> Found it.  The program is called "gnome-system-log", and it's a generic
> Gnome application.
> 
> Here's what it looks like on my system:
> 
>    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ldFbiiwMQ
> 
> Why it would act differently on your system escapes me, unless it's
> perhaps some weird Cinnamon-specific build or something.

That's what it looks like in Mate also. Except the file is named "mate-
system-log" on the Mate system. 

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#291393 — What a putz that DooF..uS be, or should I say Penis?

On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 12:53:41 AM UTC-4, DFS wrote:
> Mint 17.1 'Rebecca' Cinnamon 64-bit.
> 
> Log File Viewer  (found in Administration)
> 
> Every time you go to open a log file, it starts back at /home/<user>/.
> 
> And you can't choose multiple logs to open all at once.
> 
> You want to open 10 log files?  Get ready to navigate the filesystem 10x.


What a putz that DooF..uS be, or should I say Penis?

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#291396 — Re: What a putz that DooF..uS be, or should I say Penis?

On 04/24/2015 10:49 AM, John Gohde wrote:
> On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 12:53:41 AM UTC-4, DFS wrote:
>> Mint 17.1 'Rebecca' Cinnamon 64-bit.
>>
>> Log File Viewer  (found in Administration)
>>
>> Every time you go to open a log file, it starts back at /home/<user>/.
>>
>> And you can't choose multiple logs to open all at once.
>>
>> You want to open 10 log files?  Get ready to navigate the filesystem 10x.
>
>
> What a putz that DooF..uS be, or should I say Penis?


You should say Master or Sir, then bow a little and ask if you can scrub 
my bathroom.

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#291482

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> Mint 17.1 'Rebecca' Cinnamon 64-bit.

> Log File Viewer  (found in Administration)

> Every time you go to open a log file, it starts back at /home/<user>/.

> And you can't choose multiple logs to open all at once.

> You want to open 10 log files?  Get ready to navigate the filesystem 10x.

> Linux won

I'm using gnome 2.
System log viewer opens to /var/log.
Can open multiple logs by starting new instances of the viewer.

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#291536

On 4/24/2015 5:00 PM, owl wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> Mint 17.1 'Rebecca' Cinnamon 64-bit.
>
>> Log File Viewer  (found in Administration)
>
>> Every time you go to open a log file, it starts back at /home/<user>/.
>
>> And you can't choose multiple logs to open all at once.
>
>> You want to open 10 log files?  Get ready to navigate the filesystem 10x.
>
>> Linux won
>
> I'm using gnome 2.
> System log viewer opens to /var/log.
> Can open multiple logs by starting new instances of the viewer.


Not necessary.  You can open multiple logs in one instance, and they all 
stay open while the app is open, and they remain "in" the viewer after 
that.  But you have to choose them one at a time, and mine defaulted 
back to /home/<user> each time.

phail!

vallor showed a way you can supposedly 'bookmark' so it doesn't navigate 
back to /home/<user> each time, but his tip didn't work on my system.

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#291547

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 4/24/2015 5:00 PM, owl wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> Mint 17.1 'Rebecca' Cinnamon 64-bit.
>>
>>> Log File Viewer  (found in Administration)
>>
>>> Every time you go to open a log file, it starts back at /home/<user>/.
>>
>>> And you can't choose multiple logs to open all at once.
>>
>>> You want to open 10 log files?  Get ready to navigate the filesystem 10x.
>>
>>> Linux won
>>
>> I'm using gnome 2.
>> System log viewer opens to /var/log.
>> Can open multiple logs by starting new instances of the viewer.


> Not necessary.  You can open multiple logs in one instance, and they all 
> stay open while the app is open, and they remain "in" the viewer after 
> that.

Then I guess I don't understand what you meant by, "can't choose multiple
logs to open all at once."  Granted, I don't see a way to do that here
without starting new instances of the app, but doing so allows for opening
multiple logs simultaneously in separate windows.


>  But you have to choose them one at a time, and mine defaulted 
> back to /home/<user> each time.

Yeah, that's stupid.  I've seen apps that do something like that.
Can't remember which offhand, but it's annoying.  They must have changed
things in the log viewer.  Mine opens to /var/log every time.

> phail!

> vallor showed a way you can supposedly 'bookmark' so it doesn't navigate 
> back to /home/<user> each time, but his tip didn't work on my system.

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#291769

On 4/25/2015 12:06 PM, owl wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 4/24/2015 5:00 PM, owl wrote:
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>> Mint 17.1 'Rebecca' Cinnamon 64-bit.
>>>
>>>> Log File Viewer  (found in Administration)
>>>
>>>> Every time you go to open a log file, it starts back at /home/<user>/.
>>>
>>>> And you can't choose multiple logs to open all at once.
>>>
>>>> You want to open 10 log files?  Get ready to navigate the filesystem 10x.
>>>
>>>> Linux won
>>>
>>> I'm using gnome 2.
>>> System log viewer opens to /var/log.
>>> Can open multiple logs by starting new instances of the viewer.
>
>
>> Not necessary.  You can open multiple logs in one instance, and they all
>> stay open while the app is open, and they remain "in" the viewer after
>> that.
>
> Then I guess I don't understand what you meant by, "can't choose multiple
> logs to open all at once."  Granted, I don't see a way to do that here
> without starting new instances of the app, but doing so allows for opening
> multiple logs simultaneously in separate windows.


I can highlight 3 Excel spreadsheets and hit Enter and all of them load 
into Excel.  That's the kind of behavior I'm talking about.

You /can/ open the logs one at a time in Log Viewer, and they all stay open.



/end of this whine



>>   But you have to choose them one at a time, and mine defaulted
>> back to /home/<user> each time.
>
> Yeah, that's stupid.  I've seen apps that do something like that.
> Can't remember which offhand, but it's annoying.  They must have changed
> things in the log viewer.  Mine opens to /var/log every time.
>
>> phail!
>
>> vallor showed a way you can supposedly 'bookmark' so it doesn't navigate
>> back to /home/<user> each time, but his tip didn't work on my system.

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