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A robot might select an apple over an orange...

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First post2018-09-04 08:12 -0700
Last post2018-09-04 23:06 -0700
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  A robot might select an apple over an orange... Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-04 08:12 -0700
    Re: A robot might select an apple over an orange... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 08:49 -0700
    Asking 5 liars if they'll vote for Hillary or not. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-04 09:03 -0700
      Re: Asking 5 liars if they'll vote for Hillary or not. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 09:05 -0700
    Re: A robot might select an apple over an orange... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 11:25 -0700
      Re: A robot might select an apple over an orange... Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 12:10 -0700
        Re: A robot might select an apple over an orange... Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 15:50 -0700
          Re: A robot might select an apple over an orange... Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 00:55 -0700
        Re: A robot might select an apple over an orange... Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 19:44 -0700
          Re: A robot might select an apple over an orange... Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 06:53 -0700
      There is no such thing as an "uncaused cause" ( free will ). Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-04 12:46 -0700
        Re: There is no such thing as an "uncaused cause" ( free will ). Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 23:06 -0700

#465830 — A robot might select an apple over an orange...

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-09-04 08:12 -0700
SubjectA robot might select an apple over an orange...
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.4--8.12am.Seattle.2018>
A robot might select an apple over an orange,
but that doesn't mean it has "free will" ("the uncaused cause").

We're consumption machines, exploiting a niche,
(poorly) programmed by nature to take a LessBad "option".

We call ourselves "consumers" and the GDP measures our progress.

All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells me:

  Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.

Once the cards are all dealt, and the dice stop rolling,
and the bets are paid out, the "probability wave" has collapsed.

The biggest "loophole" in Bell's Theorem is:

  It's an _ Ensemble of tests, a series, not just one test,
  like a pollster, asking _ 5 people if they'll vote for Hillary or not.

You can't prove anything, not ThermoDynamics ( Entropy and eXergy ),
nor General Relativity; in fact, they _ contradict each other.

The best you can do is:

  - Find it useful ( in its domain ).
  - Try to Falsify it ( in its domain ).

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#465836

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-04 08:49 -0700
Message-ID<04a2ff4a-8b90-4008-8132-1d2060003543@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#465830
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 9:12:47 AM UTC-6, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> A robot might select an apple over an orange,
> but that doesn't mean it has "free will" ("the uncaused cause").
> 
> We're consumption machines, exploiting a niche,
> (poorly) programmed by nature to take a LessBad "option".

Environment has a lot to do with the options we choose.

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#465841 — Asking 5 liars if they'll vote for Hillary or not.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-09-04 09:03 -0700
SubjectAsking 5 liars if they'll vote for Hillary or not.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.4--9.03am.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#465830
     Correction...
Bell's Theorem is an ensemble of tests, a series, not just one test...
like a pollster, asking 5 _ liars if they'll vote for Hillary or not.

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#465842 — Re: Asking 5 liars if they'll vote for Hillary or not.

From% <persent@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-04 09:05 -0700
SubjectRe: Asking 5 liars if they'll vote for Hillary or not.
Message-ID<bij011.ti2.17.5@news.alt.net>
In reply to#465841
On 2018-09-04 9:03 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>       Correction...
> Bell's Theorem is an ensemble of tests, a series, not just one test...
> like a pollster, asking 5 _ liars if they'll vote for Hillary or not.
> 
hillary isn't even running

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#465856

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-09-04 11:25 -0700
Message-ID<fv811gF3hsmU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#465830
On 9/4/18 8:12 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> A robot might select an apple over an orange,
> but that doesn't mean it has "free will" ("the uncaused cause").

How is an "uncaused cause" different from randomness?

> We're consumption machines, exploiting a niche,
> (poorly) programmed by nature to take a LessBad "option".
> 
> We call ourselves "consumers" and the GDP measures our progress.
> 
> All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells me:
> 
>    Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.
> 
> Once the cards are all dealt, and the dice stop rolling,
> and the bets are paid out, the "probability wave" has collapsed.
> 
> The biggest "loophole" in Bell's Theorem is:
> 
>    It's an _ Ensemble of tests, a series, not just one test,
>    like a pollster, asking _ 5 people if they'll vote for Hillary or not.
> 
> You can't prove anything, not ThermoDynamics ( Entropy and eXergy ),
> nor General Relativity; in fact, they _ contradict each other.
> 
> The best you can do is:
> 
>    - Find it useful ( in its domain ).
>    - Try to Falsify it ( in its domain ).
> 


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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#465860

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-04 12:10 -0700
Message-ID<31543389-05fc-4dcf-9aaf-156b0e4ea4cb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#465856
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 11:25:55 AM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> On 9/4/18 8:12 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> > A robot might select an apple over an orange,
> > but that doesn't mean it has "free will" ("the uncaused cause").
> 
> How is an "uncaused cause" different from randomness?
> 
> > We're consumption machines, exploiting a niche,
> > (poorly) programmed by nature to take a LessBad "option".
> > 
> > We call ourselves "consumers" and the GDP measures our progress.
> > 
> > All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells me:
> > 
> >    Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.
> > 
> > Once the cards are all dealt, and the dice stop rolling,
> > and the bets are paid out, the "probability wave" has collapsed.
> > 
> > The biggest "loophole" in Bell's Theorem is:
> > 
> >    It's an _ Ensemble of tests, a series, not just one test,
> >    like a pollster, asking _ 5 people if they'll vote for Hillary or not.
> > 
> > You can't prove anything, not ThermoDynamics ( Entropy and eXergy ),
> > nor General Relativity; in fact, they _ contradict each other.
> > 
> > The best you can do is:
> > 
> >    - Find it useful ( in its domain ).
> >    - Try to Falsify it ( in its domain ).
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
> cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
> somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
> 
> They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> 
> <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>



The Mack has better color selection options. Over and over, the surface request is Sandman Script-Troller wants to "talk tech", but Sandman Script-Troller spends most of his time whining about "Mint". 

They say asking for advice for a Linux application is instigating. 

At one point, Sandman Script-Troller said a usenet denizen was "obsessing" over him, which was identified as mentioning any of his socks. 

I am well aware the junk I link to from Reddit is absolute layperson level; that said, it meets the requirements. 

Just some names Steve Carroll has used
    "Evil" John *
    "Evil" Snit *
    Big Crotch on a Small Fish
    Cornelius Munshower
    CSMA Moderator
    Edward Stanfield
    Fretwiz *
    Hitman Hero
    Measles
    Petruzzellis Kids
    Sigmond
    Slaveen
    Smit
    Steve C *
    Steve Camoll *
    Steve Carroll <noone@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
    Steve Carroll <stevecarroll@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
    Steve Carroll <trollkiller@xxxxxx> *
    Steve Carroll's Dog *
    Steve Carrolll *
    Steve Carrroll *
    Yevette Owens
    Yobo_Obyo


For crying out loud, just recently Sandman Script-Troller was declaring himself the only "true Linux advocate", and claiming that "advocates" (in mockery-quotes, who he also refers to as "the herd") are insisting desktop Linux is perfect as is. A meaningless discourse by pseudo-experts, magnified by the reciprocal of the endless vastness of space, demonstrating the vast nothingness of the main character's so-called thought process. 

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#465878

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-04 15:50 -0700
Message-ID<d84d1b15-01e1-4770-a69d-0bd5ebf23a18@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#465860
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 12:10:51 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 11:25:55 AM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> > On 9/4/18 8:12 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> > > A robot might select an apple over an orange,
> > > but that doesn't mean it has "free will" ("the uncaused cause").
> > 
> > How is an "uncaused cause" different from randomness?
> > 
> > > We're consumption machines, exploiting a niche,
> > > (poorly) programmed by nature to take a LessBad "option".
> > > 
> > > We call ourselves "consumers" and the GDP measures our progress.
> > > 
> > > All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells me:
> > > 
> > >    Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.
> > > 
> > > Once the cards are all dealt, and the dice stop rolling,
> > > and the bets are paid out, the "probability wave" has collapsed.
> > > 
> > > The biggest "loophole" in Bell's Theorem is:
> > > 
> > >    It's an _ Ensemble of tests, a series, not just one test,
> > >    like a pollster, asking _ 5 people if they'll vote for Hillary or not.
> > > 
> > > You can't prove anything, not ThermoDynamics ( Entropy and eXergy ),
> > > nor General Relativity; in fact, they _ contradict each other.
> > > 
> > > The best you can do is:
> > > 
> > >    - Find it useful ( in its domain ).
> > >    - Try to Falsify it ( in its domain ).
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
> > cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
> > somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
> > 
> > They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> > 
> > <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
> 
> 
> 
> The Mack has better color selection options. Over and over, the surface request is Sandman Script-Troller wants to "talk tech", but Sandman Script-Troller spends most of his time whining about "Mint". 
> 
> They say asking for advice for a Linux application is instigating. 
> 
> At one point, Sandman Script-Troller said a usenet denizen was "obsessing" over him, which was identified as mentioning any of his socks. 
> 
> I am well aware the junk I link to from Reddit is absolute layperson level; that said, it meets the requirements. 
> 
> Just some names Steve Carroll has used
>     "Evil" John *
>     "Evil" Snit *
>     Big Crotch on a Small Fish
>     Cornelius Munshower
>     CSMA Moderator
>     Edward Stanfield
>     Fretwiz *
>     Hitman Hero
>     Measles
>     Petruzzellis Kids
>     Sigmond
>     Slaveen
>     Smit
>     Steve C *
>     Steve Camoll *
>     Steve Carroll <noone@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
>     Steve Carroll <stevecarroll@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
>     Steve Carroll <trollkiller@xxxxxx> *
>     Steve Carroll's Dog *
>     Steve Carrolll *
>     Steve Carrroll *
>     Yevette Owens
>     Yobo_Obyo
> 
> 
> For crying out loud, just recently Sandman Script-Troller was declaring himself the only "true Linux advocate", and claiming that "advocates" (in mockery-quotes, who he also refers to as "the herd") are insisting desktop Linux is perfect as is. A meaningless discourse by pseudo-experts, magnified by the reciprocal of the endless vastness of space, demonstrating the vast nothingness of the main character's so-called thought process. 
> 
> --
> What Every Entrepreneur Must Know!
> https://youtu.be/GPPqvw8iEBs
> https://youtu.be/E3m_i-x92D0
> Jonas Eklundh Communication



From how Klaus Schadenfreude posted - by getting wrong fundamentals of the system and more - he has not understood a resource demanding program before. If he had he'd have understood the requirements! Lines of text containing hints and signs. 

A shadow of false cognition, projected by Klaus Schadenfreude, at the wrong time. 



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#465916

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-05 00:55 -0700
Message-ID<6fa54a98-d771-4729-9046-a9fea050d351@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#465878
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 3:50:27 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 12:10:51 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 11:25:55 AM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> > > On 9/4/18 8:12 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> > > > A robot might select an apple over an orange,
> > > > but that doesn't mean it has "free will" ("the uncaused cause").
> > > 
> > > How is an "uncaused cause" different from randomness?
> > > 
> > > > We're consumption machines, exploiting a niche,
> > > > (poorly) programmed by nature to take a LessBad "option".
> > > > 
> > > > We call ourselves "consumers" and the GDP measures our progress.
> > > > 
> > > > All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells me:
> > > > 
> > > >    Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.
> > > > 
> > > > Once the cards are all dealt, and the dice stop rolling,
> > > > and the bets are paid out, the "probability wave" has collapsed.
> > > > 
> > > > The biggest "loophole" in Bell's Theorem is:
> > > > 
> > > >    It's an _ Ensemble of tests, a series, not just one test,
> > > >    like a pollster, asking _ 5 people if they'll vote for Hillary or not.
> > > > 
> > > > You can't prove anything, not ThermoDynamics ( Entropy and eXergy ),
> > > > nor General Relativity; in fact, they _ contradict each other.
> > > > 
> > > > The best you can do is:
> > > > 
> > > >    - Find it useful ( in its domain ).
> > > >    - Try to Falsify it ( in its domain ).
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
> > > cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
> > > somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
> > > 
> > > They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> > > 
> > > <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The Mack has better color selection options. Over and over, the surface request is Sandman Script-Troller wants to "talk tech", but Sandman Script-Troller spends most of his time whining about "Mint". 
> > 
> > They say asking for advice for a Linux application is instigating. 
> > 
> > At one point, Sandman Script-Troller said a usenet denizen was "obsessing" over him, which was identified as mentioning any of his socks. 
> > 
> > I am well aware the junk I link to from Reddit is absolute layperson level; that said, it meets the requirements. 
> > 
> > Just some names Steve Carroll has used
> >     "Evil" John *
> >     "Evil" Snit *
> >     Big Crotch on a Small Fish
> >     Cornelius Munshower
> >     CSMA Moderator
> >     Edward Stanfield
> >     Fretwiz *
> >     Hitman Hero
> >     Measles
> >     Petruzzellis Kids
> >     Sigmond
> >     Slaveen
> >     Smit
> >     Steve C *
> >     Steve Camoll *
> >     Steve Carroll <noone@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
> >     Steve Carroll <stevecarroll@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
> >     Steve Carroll <trollkiller@xxxxxx> *
> >     Steve Carroll's Dog *
> >     Steve Carrolll *
> >     Steve Carrroll *
> >     Yevette Owens
> >     Yobo_Obyo
> > 
> > 
> > For crying out loud, just recently Sandman Script-Troller was declaring himself the only "true Linux advocate", and claiming that "advocates" (in mockery-quotes, who he also refers to as "the herd") are insisting desktop Linux is perfect as is. A meaningless discourse by pseudo-experts, magnified by the reciprocal of the endless vastness of space, demonstrating the vast nothingness of the main character's so-called thought process. 
> > 
> > --
> > What Every Entrepreneur Must Know!
> > https://youtu.be/GPPqvw8iEBs
> > https://youtu.be/E3m_i-x92D0
> > Jonas Eklundh Communication
> 
> 
> 
> From how Klaus Schadenfreude posted - by getting wrong fundamentals of the system and more - he has not understood a resource demanding program before. If he had he'd have understood the requirements! Lines of text containing hints and signs. 
> 
> A shadow of false cognition, projected by Klaus Schadenfreude, at the wrong time. 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Eight things to never feed your cat
> http://www.5z8.info/peepshow_z9s9ht_dogporn
> https://youtu.be/u4xD43Khhkw
> http://www.5z8.info/how-to-build-a-bomb_h2o1be_peepshow
> Jonas Eklundh Communication AB



Jeff Relf is the outcome of the fact that morons have been instructed to be in charge of indoctrinating the next generation. It is not chance that he is an unintelligent Russian sympathizer. 

Honestly, those of you who troll are not able to check yourselves anymore. What Steve Carroll does is certainly faster. 

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#465895

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-04 19:44 -0700
Message-ID<158431e6-da58-43fd-8640-175223764356@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#465860
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 12:10:51 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 11:25:55 AM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> > On 9/4/18 8:12 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> > > A robot might select an apple over an orange,
> > > but that doesn't mean it has "free will" ("the uncaused cause").
> > 
> > How is an "uncaused cause" different from randomness?
> > 
> > > We're consumption machines, exploiting a niche,
> > > (poorly) programmed by nature to take a LessBad "option".
> > > 
> > > We call ourselves "consumers" and the GDP measures our progress.
> > > 
> > > All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells me:
> > > 
> > >    Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.
> > > 
> > > Once the cards are all dealt, and the dice stop rolling,
> > > and the bets are paid out, the "probability wave" has collapsed.
> > > 
> > > The biggest "loophole" in Bell's Theorem is:
> > > 
> > >    It's an _ Ensemble of tests, a series, not just one test,
> > >    like a pollster, asking _ 5 people if they'll vote for Hillary or not.
> > > 
> > > You can't prove anything, not ThermoDynamics ( Entropy and eXergy ),
> > > nor General Relativity; in fact, they _ contradict each other.
> > > 
> > > The best you can do is:
> > > 
> > >    - Find it useful ( in its domain ).
> > >    - Try to Falsify it ( in its domain ).
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
> > cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
> > somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
> > 
> > They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> > 
> > <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
> 
> 
> 
> The Mack has better color selection options. Over and over, the surface request is Sandman Script-Troller wants to "talk tech", but Sandman Script-Troller spends most of his time whining about "Mint". 
> 
> They say asking for advice for a Linux application is instigating. 
> 
> At one point, Sandman Script-Troller said a usenet denizen was "obsessing" over him, which was identified as mentioning any of his socks. 
> 
> I am well aware the junk I link to from Reddit is absolute layperson level; that said, it meets the requirements. 
> 
> Just some names Steve Carroll has used
>     "Evil" John *
>     "Evil" Snit *
>     Big Crotch on a Small Fish
>     Cornelius Munshower
>     CSMA Moderator
>     Edward Stanfield
>     Fretwiz *
>     Hitman Hero
>     Measles
>     Petruzzellis Kids
>     Sigmond
>     Slaveen
>     Smit
>     Steve C *
>     Steve Camoll *
>     Steve Carroll <noone@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
>     Steve Carroll <stevecarroll@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
>     Steve Carroll <trollkiller@xxxxxx> *
>     Steve Carroll's Dog *
>     Steve Carrolll *
>     Steve Carrroll *
>     Yevette Owens
>     Yobo_Obyo
> 
> 
> For crying out loud, just recently Sandman Script-Troller was declaring himself the only "true Linux advocate", and claiming that "advocates" (in mockery-quotes, who he also refers to as "the herd") are insisting desktop Linux is perfect as is. A meaningless discourse by pseudo-experts, magnified by the reciprocal of the endless vastness of space, demonstrating the vast nothingness of the main character's so-called thought process. 
> 
> --
> What Every Entrepreneur Must Know!
> https://youtu.be/GPPqvw8iEBs
> https://youtu.be/E3m_i-x92D0
> Jonas Eklundh Communication



When I got here, I wanted to be unprejudiced and nonjudgemental. I gave Chris 'The Moron' Ahlstrom more than a rational person should. Do not get too arrogant, Chris 'The Moron' Ahlstrom, sometimes "your socks" are just that. Tizen runs on the Arch Linux kernel. So yeah, Arch Linux is mobile. Arch Linux is a super computer. Arch Linux is a server. Arch Linux is a desktop. Arch Linux is growing in market share. Lines of text containing tells. 

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#465939

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-05 06:53 -0700
Message-ID<be4f2e78-ad8e-4a92-8da3-59cb9d374770@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#465895
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 7:44:23 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 12:10:51 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 11:25:55 AM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> > > On 9/4/18 8:12 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> > > > A robot might select an apple over an orange,
> > > > but that doesn't mean it has "free will" ("the uncaused cause").
> > > 
> > > How is an "uncaused cause" different from randomness?
> > > 
> > > > We're consumption machines, exploiting a niche,
> > > > (poorly) programmed by nature to take a LessBad "option".
> > > > 
> > > > We call ourselves "consumers" and the GDP measures our progress.
> > > > 
> > > > All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells me:
> > > > 
> > > >    Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.
> > > > 
> > > > Once the cards are all dealt, and the dice stop rolling,
> > > > and the bets are paid out, the "probability wave" has collapsed.
> > > > 
> > > > The biggest "loophole" in Bell's Theorem is:
> > > > 
> > > >    It's an _ Ensemble of tests, a series, not just one test,
> > > >    like a pollster, asking _ 5 people if they'll vote for Hillary or not.
> > > > 
> > > > You can't prove anything, not ThermoDynamics ( Entropy and eXergy ),
> > > > nor General Relativity; in fact, they _ contradict each other.
> > > > 
> > > > The best you can do is:
> > > > 
> > > >    - Find it useful ( in its domain ).
> > > >    - Try to Falsify it ( in its domain ).
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
> > > cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
> > > somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
> > > 
> > > They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> > > 
> > > <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The Mack has better color selection options. Over and over, the surface request is Sandman Script-Troller wants to "talk tech", but Sandman Script-Troller spends most of his time whining about "Mint". 
> > 
> > They say asking for advice for a Linux application is instigating. 
> > 
> > At one point, Sandman Script-Troller said a usenet denizen was "obsessing" over him, which was identified as mentioning any of his socks. 
> > 
> > I am well aware the junk I link to from Reddit is absolute layperson level; that said, it meets the requirements. 
> > 
> > Just some names Steve Carroll has used
> >     "Evil" John *
> >     "Evil" Snit *
> >     Big Crotch on a Small Fish
> >     Cornelius Munshower
> >     CSMA Moderator
> >     Edward Stanfield
> >     Fretwiz *
> >     Hitman Hero
> >     Measles
> >     Petruzzellis Kids
> >     Sigmond
> >     Slaveen
> >     Smit
> >     Steve C *
> >     Steve Camoll *
> >     Steve Carroll <noone@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
> >     Steve Carroll <stevecarroll@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
> >     Steve Carroll <trollkiller@xxxxxx> *
> >     Steve Carroll's Dog *
> >     Steve Carrolll *
> >     Steve Carrroll *
> >     Yevette Owens
> >     Yobo_Obyo
> > 
> > 
> > For crying out loud, just recently Sandman Script-Troller was declaring himself the only "true Linux advocate", and claiming that "advocates" (in mockery-quotes, who he also refers to as "the herd") are insisting desktop Linux is perfect as is. A meaningless discourse by pseudo-experts, magnified by the reciprocal of the endless vastness of space, demonstrating the vast nothingness of the main character's so-called thought process. 
> > 
> > --
> > What Every Entrepreneur Must Know!
> > https://youtu.be/GPPqvw8iEBs
> > https://youtu.be/E3m_i-x92D0
> > Jonas Eklundh Communication
> 
> 
> 
> When I got here, I wanted to be unprejudiced and nonjudgemental. I gave Chris 'The Moron' Ahlstrom more than a rational person should. Do not get too arrogant, Chris 'The Moron' Ahlstrom, sometimes "your socks" are just that. Tizen runs on the Arch Linux kernel. So yeah, Arch Linux is mobile. Arch Linux is a super computer. Arch Linux is a server. Arch Linux is a desktop. Arch Linux is growing in market share. Lines of text containing tells. 
> 
> --
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> http://www.5z8.info/--INITIATE-CREDIT-CARD-XFER--_k7s1jt_inject_worm
> https://youtu.be/48_DdtLGR9s
> Jonas Eklundh Communication



Are you being like Klaus Schadenfreude on purpose? 

Klaus Schadenfreude is the effect of the fact that morons have been employed to take the lead in instructing the next generation. It's not mere happenstance that he is a witless Democrat. 

It was Klaus Schadenfreude who forged me and bragged about it. 

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#465866 — There is no such thing as an "uncaused cause" ( free will ).

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-09-04 12:46 -0700
SubjectThere is no such thing as an "uncaused cause" ( free will ).
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.4--0.46pm.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#465856
> > A robot might select an apple over an orange,
> > but that doesn't mean it has "free will" ("the uncaused cause").
> 
> How is an "uncaused cause" different from randomness?

There is no such thing as an "uncaused cause" ( free will ).

All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells me:

  Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.

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#465907 — Re: There is no such thing as an "uncaused cause" ( free will ).

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-04 23:06 -0700
SubjectRe: There is no such thing as an "uncaused cause" ( free will ).
Message-ID<98e485d7-abc1-4922-abdb-66b1248d653c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#465866
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 12:46:12 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > > A robot might select an apple over an orange,
> > > but that doesn't mean it has "free will" ("the uncaused cause").
> > 
> > How is an "uncaused cause" different from randomness?
> 
> There is no such thing as an "uncaused cause" ( free will ).
> 
> All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells me:
> 
>   Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.



Was that meant to be to Klaus Schadenfreude? Until or unless flatfish offers up his 'better' Windows tool for review, there is no competition, just crazed assertions. Almost all advocates in this group do application development either as a necessity or as a vocation, so I have doubts anybody here consider automation to be "a black art". 

Perhaps you use it incorrectly. Do you not fathom the use of encryption? Calls it "obsessing" over him, even though he continues to set in motion that exact standard. 

I know the flooder is flatfish, who is a demonstrable C developer but I don't know if it could be used to automate this. 



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