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Why make quantum computer ?

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First post2015-11-01 01:40 -0700
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  Why make quantum computer ? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-01 01:40 -0700
    Jeff-Relf.Me John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 02:07 -0800
    Re: Why make quantum computer ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-11-01 07:57 -0500
      Re: Why make quantum computer ? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-02 08:06 -0600
    Re: Why make quantum computer ? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-11-01 17:12 +0000
      Why make quantum computer ? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-01 09:53 -0800
        Re: Why make quantum computer ? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-11-01 19:11 +0000
          Quantum "bits". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-01 13:26 -0800
            Re: Quantum "bits". Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-11-01 19:47 -0500
          Re: Why make quantum computer ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-11-01 19:50 -0500
          Re: Why make quantum computer ? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-02 08:07 -0600
            Re: Why make quantum computer ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-11-02 11:08 -0500
        Re: Why make quantum computer ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-11-01 19:49 -0500
      Re: Why make quantum computer ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-11-01 19:49 -0500
    Re: Why make quantum computer ? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2015-11-01 21:37 +0000
      Re: Why make quantum computer ? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-11-01 19:48 -0500

#330046 — Why make quantum computer ?

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2015-11-01 01:40 -0700
SubjectWhy make quantum computer ?
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.1{1.40A.Seattle.2015}>
Bob_Watkins (in Sci.Physics) wrote:
> The biggest stumbling blocks in the way of practical quantum computers
> are the transmission and storage of quantum states, 
> whatever their physical embodiment, in the computer's hardware.  
> 
> Reliably entangling qbits, and then maintaining their coherence, 
> can be done, but it's difficult and it's expensive.

Quantum Computing isn't just expensive,
it's (nearly?) impossible and has no known benefits.

Why make quantum computer ?

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#330054 — Jeff-Relf.Me

FromJohn Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-01 02:07 -0800
SubjectJeff-Relf.Me
Message-ID<51b3ba59-6959-4b6f-9e7f-a3fde1531778@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#330046
On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 3:40:16 AM UTC-5, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> Bob_Watkins (in Sci.Physics) wrote:
> > The biggest stumbling blocks in the way of practical quantum computers
> > are the transmission and storage of quantum states, 
> > whatever their physical embodiment, in the computer's arehardware.  
> > 
> > Reliably entangling qbits, and then maintaining their coherence, 
> > can be done, but it's difficult and it's expensive.
> 
> Quantum Computing isn't just expensive,
> it's (nearly?) impossible and has no known benefits.
> 
> Why make quantum computer ?


Jeff-Relf.Me sucks!  That is all.

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#330063

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2015-11-01 07:57 -0500
Message-ID<X-6dnfBjQ6WCkavLnZ2dnUU7-XGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#330046
On 2015-11-01 03:40, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> Bob_Watkins (in Sci.Physics) wrote:
>> The biggest stumbling blocks in the way of practical quantum computers
>> are the transmission and storage of quantum states,
>> whatever their physical embodiment, in the computer's hardware.
>>
>> Reliably entangling qbits, and then maintaining their coherence,
>> can be done, but it's difficult and it's expensive.
>
> Quantum Computing isn't just expensive,
> it's (nearly?) impossible and has no known benefits.
>
> Why make quantum computer ?

Because.

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#330313

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-11-02 08:06 -0600
Message-ID<udre3bpkpdo43dlf5utrudoe2vn67gvr18@4ax.com>
In reply to#330063
Alan Browne wrote:

>On 2015-11-01 03:40, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

*plonk*

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#330067

FromWilliam Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Date2015-11-01 17:12 +0000
Message-ID<n15h5r$lal$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#330046
On 2015-11-01, Jeff-Relf.Me <> wrote:
> Bob_Watkins (in Sci.Physics) wrote:
>> The biggest stumbling blocks in the way of practical quantum computers
>> are the transmission and storage of quantum states, 
>> whatever their physical embodiment, in the computer's hardware.  
>> 
>> Reliably entangling qbits, and then maintaining their coherence, 
>> can be done, but it's difficult and it's expensive.
>
> Quantum Computing isn't just expensive,
> it's (nearly?) impossible and has no known benefits.

It has a number of known benefits. VASTLY faster solution of some hard
problems is one. (the most famous of which is factoring).

>
> Why make quantum computer ?

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#330071

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2015-11-01 09:53 -0800
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.1{9.53A.Seattle.2015}>
In reply to#330067
William_Unruh replied (to me):
> > Quantum Computing isn't just expensive,
> > it's (nearly?) impossible and has no known benefits.
> 
> It has a number of known benefits.
> VASTLY faster solution of some hardproblems is one. 
> (the most famous of which is factoring).

In theory, or in practice ?

As I understand it,
no one has ever streamed qubits.

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#330090

FromWilliam Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Date2015-11-01 19:11 +0000
Message-ID<n15o4s$ocp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#330071
On 2015-11-01, Jeff-Relf.Me <> wrote:
> William_Unruh replied (to me):
>> > Quantum Computing isn't just expensive,
>> > it's (nearly?) impossible and has no known benefits.
>> 
>> It has a number of known benefits.
>> VASTLY faster solution of some hardproblems is one. 
>> (the most famous of which is factoring).
>
> In theory, or in practice ?

??? At present obviously in theory. But your second comment "no known
benefits" was not about practice. 

>
> As I understand it,
> no one has ever streamed qubits.

No idea what "streamed qubits" means. 

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#330171 — Quantum "bits".

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2015-11-01 13:26 -0800
SubjectQuantum "bits".
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.1{1.26P.Seattle.2015}>
In reply to#330090
William_Unruh replied (to me):
> > As I understand it,
> > no one has ever streamed qubits.
> 
> No idea what "streamed qubits" means. 

Video (binary bits) can be streamed from
a server to my browser, where I watch it.

No one can do that with "qubits" (quantum "bits").

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#330219 — Re: Quantum "bits".

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2015-11-01 19:47 -0500
SubjectRe: Quantum "bits".
Message-ID<VYGdnZur5qBfL6vLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#330171
On 2015-11-01 16:26, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> William_Unruh replied (to me):
>>> As I understand it,
>>> no one has ever streamed qubits.
>>
>> No idea what "streamed qubits" means.
>
> Video (binary bits) can be streamed from
> a server to my browser, where I watch it.
>
> No one can do that with "qubits" (quantum "bits").

Why is that?

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#330223

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2015-11-01 19:50 -0500
Message-ID<VYGdnZer5qDCLqvLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#330090
On 2015-11-01 14:11, William Unruh wrote:
> On 2015-11-01, Jeff-Relf.Me <> wrote:
>> William_Unruh replied (to me):
>>>> Quantum Computing isn't just expensive,
>>>> it's (nearly?) impossible and has no known benefits.
>>>
>>> It has a number of known benefits.
>>> VASTLY faster solution of some hardproblems is one.
>>> (the most famous of which is factoring).
>>
>> In theory, or in practice ?
>
> ??? At present obviously in theory. But your second comment "no known
> benefits" was not about practice.
>
>>
>> As I understand it,
>> no one has ever streamed qubits.
>
> No idea what "streamed qubits" means.

He likes Netflix.

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#330315

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-11-02 08:07 -0600
Message-ID<1gre3b543kdk31t9cq6rmckloabt80o0em@4ax.com>
In reply to#330090
William Unruh wrote:

>On 2015-11-01, Jeff-Relf.Me <> wrote:

*plonk*

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#330352

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2015-11-02 11:08 -0500
Message-ID<PYGdnQmqCJYWF6rLnZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#330315
On 2015-11-02 09:07, chrisv wrote:
> William Unruh wrote:
>
>> On 2015-11-01, Jeff-Relf.Me <> wrote:
>
> *plonk*
>
Why?  It's valuable stuff!

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#330222

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2015-11-01 19:49 -0500
Message-ID<VYGdnZSr5qCuLqvLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#330071
On 2015-11-01 12:53, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> William_Unruh replied (to me):
>>> Quantum Computing isn't just expensive,
>>> it's (nearly?) impossible and has no known benefits.
>>
>> It has a number of known benefits.
>> VASTLY faster solution of some hardproblems is one.
>> (the most famous of which is factoring).
>
> In theory, or in practice ?
>
> As I understand it,
> no one has ever streamed qubits.

Proof?

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#330221

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2015-11-01 19:49 -0500
Message-ID<VYGdnZWr5qCELqvLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#330067
On 2015-11-01 12:12, William Unruh wrote:
> On 2015-11-01, Jeff-Relf.Me <> wrote:
>> Bob_Watkins (in Sci.Physics) wrote:
>>> The biggest stumbling blocks in the way of practical quantum computers
>>> are the transmission and storage of quantum states,
>>> whatever their physical embodiment, in the computer's hardware.
>>>
>>> Reliably entangling qbits, and then maintaining their coherence,
>>> can be done, but it's difficult and it's expensive.
>>
>> Quantum Computing isn't just expensive,
>> it's (nearly?) impossible and has no known benefits.
>
> It has a number of known benefits. VASTLY faster solution of some hard
> problems is one. (the most famous of which is factoring).

Examples?

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#330178

FromDoc O'Leary <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com>
Date2015-11-01 21:37 +0000
Message-ID<n160m3$p9b$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#330046
For your reference, records indicate that 
Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:

> Why make quantum computer ?

Asks the person creating a superposition of 6 newsgroups.

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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#330220

FromAlan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date2015-11-01 19:48 -0500
Message-ID<VYGdnZqr5qB9L6vLnZ2dnUU7-LkAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#330178
On 2015-11-01 16:37, Doc O'Leary wrote:
> For your reference, records indicate that
> Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote:
>
>> Why make quantum computer ?
>
> Asks the person creating a superposition of 6 newsgroups.

Is that 12 positions?

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