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| First post | 2018-06-06 12:25 -0700 |
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We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-06 12:25 -0700
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-06 16:35 -0400
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 17:52 -0700
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 18:14 -0700
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:39 -0700
No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-06 18:21 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 18:37 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 18:51 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 19:09 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:19 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 19:24 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:30 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 19:45 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:02 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 20:14 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:31 -0700
Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-06 20:46 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:49 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 22:11 -0600
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 21:22 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 11:32 -0700
Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 12:45 -0700
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 14:30 -0700
My kids give zero fucks. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 15:38 -0700
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:51 -0700
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 17:21 -0700
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 17:36 -0700
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 18:07 -0700
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 18:20 -0700
Re: Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 16:53 +0000
Re: Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 16:49 +0000
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:40 -0700
Re: Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 16:54 +0000
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:24 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 17:07 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 17:24 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 17:44 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 17:55 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 18:19 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 18:23 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 18:52 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 19:48 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 20:25 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 20:32 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 20:52 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 21:16 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 21:56 -0700
I don't need WordPress. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 22:33 -0700
Re: I don't need WordPress. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
Re: I don't need WordPress. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:18 -0700
Social Security Disability (SSDI). Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 09:33 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:39 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:11 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:17 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:42 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:49 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:55 -0700
Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 14:10 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 14:15 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 15:51 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 17:37 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 17:45 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 18:00 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 19:55 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 09:22 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:06 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 01:11 -0700
Re: I don't need WordPress. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:02 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 23:58 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:08 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:01 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 12:58 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:32 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:47 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:53 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 14:03 -0700
Re: Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 16:50 +0000
Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 18:29 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 18:36 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 18:56 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 19:49 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 20:30 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 20:43 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 20:55 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 21:19 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 21:37 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 21:58 -0700
"SeniorPeopleMeet.COM" wouldn't be the worst choice. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 23:17 -0700
Re: "SeniorPeopleMeet.COM" wouldn't be the worst choice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
If Michael Glasser were human, and not a lizard. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 23:48 -0700
Re: If Michael Glasser were human, and not a lizard. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:00 -0700
I wish Michael Glasser were just evil, and not hopelessly insane. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 00:24 -0700
Re: I wish Michael Glasser were just evil, and not hopelessly insane. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:26 -0700
Re: I wish Michael Glasser were just evil, and not hopelessly insane. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 01:00 -0700
Re: "SeniorPeopleMeet.COM" wouldn't be the worst choice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:07 -0700
Re: "SeniorPeopleMeet.COM" wouldn't be the worst choice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:13 -0700
Re: "SeniorPeopleMeet.COM" wouldn't be the worst choice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:36 -0700
Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 09:53 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:58 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:30 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:07 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:34 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:13 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:05 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:32 -0700
Thank God for SSDI. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 13:44 -0700
Re: Thank God for SSDI. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:47 -0700
Re: Thank God for SSDI. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:54 -0700
Re: Thank God for SSDI. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:51 -0700
Thank God for SSDI. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 14:00 -0700
Re: Thank God for SSDI. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 14:12 -0700
Kids aren't my bag. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 14:32 -0700
Re: Thank God for SSDI. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 15:52 -0700
Re: Thank God for SSDI. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 14:32 -0700
Re: "SeniorPeopleMeet.COM" wouldn't be the worst choice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:11 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 23:59 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:03 -0700
Re: Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 16:47 +0000
Re: Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:51 -0700
Re: Re: Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 17:06 +0000
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:48 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:13 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:21 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:48 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:51 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 14:32 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 14:48 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 15:53 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 16:54 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 16:59 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 17:05 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 17:27 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 17:39 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 17:47 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 18:04 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 04:12 +0000
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 21:31 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 13:40 -0700
Re: Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 16:55 +0000
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 21:23 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 21:24 -0700
Don't teach JavaScript without a proper goal in mind. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-06 20:00 -0700
Re: Don't teach JavaScript without a proper goal in mind. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 20:03 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:31 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:32 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-06 22:47 -0400
NO TRUTH. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-06 20:28 -0700
Re: NO TRUTH. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-07 05:32 -0400
Harp playing, androgynous angels in the clouds ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 11:18 -0700
Re: Harp playing, androgynous angels in the clouds ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-07 16:42 -0400
Ben Jacoby takes _pride_ in his randomness, I don't. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 14:15 -0700
Re: Ben Jacoby takes _pride_ in his randomness, I don't. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-08 02:20 -0400
Worshiping Ignorance. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 23:36 -0700
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-08 11:42 -0400
" I can choose to do the opposite of what I prefer " -- Ben Jacoby. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 10:17 -0700
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 01:58 +0000
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 19:55 -0700
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 21:37 +0000
EINSTEIN's category, far from the Pope. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 14:51 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN's category, far from the Pope. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-06-09 22:01 +0000
To a retard, _everything_ is "random". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 15:11 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN's category, far from the Pope. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:13 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN's category, far from the Pope. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 15:54 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN's category, far from the Pope. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 22:54 +0000
People are forever MisQuoting Einstein; I correct them. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 16:40 -0700
Re: People are forever MisQuoting Einstein; I correct them. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 00:15 +0000
Putting words in Einstein's mouth. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 17:42 -0700
Re: Putting words in Einstein's mouth. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 00:59 +0000
God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 18:28 -0700
Re: God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 01:42 +0000
Mark Twain was a determinist. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 20:16 -0700
Re: Mark Twain was a determinist. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-10 12:48 -0400
Quantum Mechanics is statistical, not complete. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-10 10:51 -0700
Re: Quantum Mechanics is statistical, not complete. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 11:10 -0700
Re: Quantum Mechanics is statistical, not complete. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 11:02 -0400
Quantum Mechanics is statistical, not complete. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 09:20 -0700
Re: Quantum Mechanics is statistical, not complete. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 17:09 -0400
Bell's theorem is just another "I don't know". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 14:32 -0700
Re: Bell's theorem is just another "I don't know". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-11 14:33 -0700
No one can "prove" ThermoDynamics and/or General Relativity, 100.00000000%. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 15:00 -0700
Re: No one can "prove" ThermoDynamics and/or General Relativity, 100.00000000%. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-11 15:01 -0700
We assert _useful_ premises ( and ThermoDynamics is _Very_ useful ). Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 15:27 -0700
Re: Bell's theorem is just another "I don't know". benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 19:57 -0400
Re: Bell's theorem is just another "I don't know". vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-12 17:11 +0000
SuperDeterminism was useful to Einstein, and to me. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-12 12:03 -0700
Enjoy your silly hat. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-13 14:46 -0700
Sex toys/dolls. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-15 00:44 -0700
Re: God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 22:59 -0400
Re: God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 03:51 +0000
Re: God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-10 12:50 -0400
Mark Twain, Einstein and Stephen Hawking are revered by nerds Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-10 11:01 -0700
Re: Mark Twain, Einstein and Stephen Hawking are revered by nerds benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 11:06 -0400
Asleep, living in a dream. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 10:04 -0700
Re: Asleep, living in a dream. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-11 14:22 -0500
Re: Asleep, living in a dream. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 17:21 -0400
Your house is built on sand. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 14:43 -0700
Re: God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 04:21 -0700
Re: Putting words in Einstein's mouth. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 18:30 -0700
Re: Putting words in Einstein's mouth. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:40 -0700
Re: Putting words in Einstein's mouth. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-11 07:02 -0500
Re: Putting words in Einstein's mouth. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 05:17 -0700
Quantum Mechanics is _not_ complete. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 09:41 -0700
Re: Quantum Mechanics is _not_ complete. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 17:17 -0400
"statistics is [sic] real" -- Ben Jacoby. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 14:39 -0700
Re: "statistics is [sic] real" -- Ben Jacoby. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-11 14:53 -0700
When I hear the word "Quantum", I replace it with the word "BullShit". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 15:09 -0700
Re: When I hear the word "Quantum", I replace it with the word "BullShit". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 15:25 -0700
Re: "statistics is [sic] real" -- Ben Jacoby. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 20:00 -0400
" I can't know " -- Bell's Theorem. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 19:29 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN's category, far from the Pope. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 22:28 -0400
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:53 -0700
If the truth is your enemy... Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 00:14 -0700
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-06-09 06:52 -0400
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 05:26 -0700
Re: Harp playing, androgynous angels in the clouds ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 23:27 -0700
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 14:21 -0700
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 21:22 +0000
I feel rich, very rich. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-06 14:39 -0700
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 14:52 -0700
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 11:32 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. |
| Message-ID | <b2510912-c1ef-469d-891b-175d79278ff9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #454295 |
On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:22:51 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > On 6/6/18 9:11 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > > On 2018-06-07 03:46:50 +0000, Jeff-Relf.Me @. said: > > > >> Steve told Mike: > >>> Fact: You can't know what I "have" or what my income is. > >>> > >>> Fact: Learning isn't value-less because it's not tied to monetary > >>> compensation. > >>> > >>> You are clearly opposing both those facts. > >>> If you don't believe you are, > >>> then you probably need to adjust your medication again. > >> > >> Steve is winning, Mike is losing. > > > > I'd like to collect... what'd I win? ;) > > A decade-plus of your life with no sign of any income So... all the gear in my studio just magically appeared?! I wonder if I can wish for a Dumble... > , a divorce, Two, actually, and I'm *very* thankful for both ;) > a life that leads you to speak horribly of your kids, That's being done by you, when you're forging my name. > no website Incorrect. > after you found I would not modify mine to your taste and back > your efforts to copy it, C'mon, Snit... anyone can see your site is a dated mess ;) > and a flood bot you use to automate your trolling. Stop projecting. > In other words: you have "won" a wasted life. Congrats. It is yours. Even if my life was like the dishonest BS you just described, how do you figure wasting your life on usenet the way you have is better? > > I'm just pointing out that he's dishonest while he claims otherwise... > > no one wins in a deal like that. > > You lie more in a day than you can show me lying in a year. You just can't stop lying, can you? > > Totally off topic: I've been racking my brain over a JavaScript date > > object issue, trying to get it to work in Safari and iOS. I have several > > lines of code which work in Chrome, FireFox and Opera (even Brave) but > > not Safari or iOS. I did just get a little 'win' by writing 2 small > > lines of code that works on all of them, though. I wish Apple would keep > > Safari as up to date as other browsers. > > Why not share the code and talk about tech? I doubt you'd understand it and, at this point, I don't think Relf cares to see any JavaScript with no goals in mind ;) Last night I did fix a date object issue that Safari and iOS have; I also added the ability to control the date range from the sheet (IOW, there are display implications here). > Would be SO much better than your obsession with me. You obsess with you. Why do you think you can bully people into believing things they know isn't true? Has this worked in the past for you? That I've seen, it's never worked on usenet... so why bother? All you've gotten for your efforts is to rightfully be considered one of the biggest liars on usenet. That's your 'win'. Weird.
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 12:45 -0700 |
| Subject | Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.7--0.45pm.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #454316 |
You (Steve) replied ( to Mike ): > > > > Steve is winning, Mike is losing. > > > > > > I'd like to collect... what'd I win? ;) > > > > A decade-plus of your life with no sign of any income, > > So... all the gear in my studio just magically appeared?! > I wonder if I can wish for a Dumble... Again, Mike is talking about himself, not you; "no sign of any income" for 13 years, he says. > > a divorce, > > Two, actually, and I'm *very* thankful for both ;) Mike hasn't had that pleasure YET, but he will; meanwhile, he's a KnowItAll feminist. > > a life that leads you to speak horribly of your kids, > > That's being done by you, when you're forging my name. What do Mike's kids say about him ? Mine say nothing, they give Zero fucks. > > no website > > Incorrect. You're none too proud of it; mine is "Jeff-Relf.Me". > > after you found I would not modify mine to your taste, > > and back your efforts to copy it, > > C'mon, Snit... anyone can see your site is a dated mess ;) I can't, it seems fine to me. > > and a flood bot you use to automate your trolling. > > Stop projecting. Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ); it hates _both_ of you. > > In other words: you have "won" a wasted life. Congrats. > > Even if my life was like the dishonest BS you just described, how do > you figure wasting your life on usenet the way you have is better? Again, he's looking in the mirror, talking to himself. > > > I'm just pointing out that he's dishonest while he claims otherwise... > > > no one wins in a deal like that. > > > > You lie more in a day than you can show me lying in a year. > > You just can't stop lying, can you? We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. > > > I wish Apple would keep Safari as up to date as other browsers. > > > > Why not share the code and talk about tech? > > I doubt you'd understand it and, at this point, > I don't think Relf cares to see any JavaScript with no goals in mind ;) You don't adopt every child you see; likewise, I don't adopt every app I see. > Last night I did fix a date object issue that Safari and iOS have; > I also added the ability to control the date range from the sheet > ( IOW, there are display implications here ). My "Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.PNG" (Jeff-Relf.Me/SleepPat.HTM) is a good example of how dimensions simplify things; X is days, Y is hours, and tables (Z) are years, -- time by time by time... virtual dimensions ! Mike laments: > > [ I could ] be SO much better than [my] obsession with [myself]. _Everyone_ is enslaved, there is no free will. We simply prefer the LeastBad "option", and we can't change what we prefer.
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 14:30 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). |
| Message-ID | <d82ac307-5db3-46cf-b262-fc3e5ab090c3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #454317 |
On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 1:45:14 PM UTC-6, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: > You (Steve) replied ( to Mike ): > > > > > Steve is winning, Mike is losing. > > > > > > > > I'd like to collect... what'd I win? ;) > > > > > > A decade-plus of your life with no sign of any income, > > > > So... all the gear in my studio just magically appeared?! > > I wonder if I can wish for a Dumble... > > Again, Mike is talking about himself, not you; > "no sign of any income" for 13 years, he says. > > > > a divorce, > > > > Two, actually, and I'm *very* thankful for both ;) > > Mike hasn't had that pleasure YET, but he will; That 'pleasure' will probably mean an even bigger burden to taxpayers. > meanwhile, he's a KnowItAll feminist. > > > > a life that leads you to speak horribly of your kids, > > > > That's being done by you, when you're forging my name. > > What do Mike's kids say about him ? > Mine say nothing, they give Zero fucks. I forgot you had kids (at least, I don't recall you mentioning it) but I doubt that's true unless you've abused them or the mother did the 'mind trick'. > > > no website > > > > Incorrect. > > You're none too proud of it; mine is "Jeff-Relf.Me". So Snit can flood it with crap, like he did with Sandman's site? I'll pass ;) You were correct when you once pointed out that Snit is a monumental liar who is extremely jealous of people who do things he can't... so he tries to knock them down to his level. Here's what he dishonestly claims I built, which, as he correctly noted after looking at the code on the WB Machine, uses GoDaddy's site builder: <https://imgur.com/a/pEnfK> Strangely, here's his "evidence" that *I* built that GoDaddy site: <http://www.reservationdiary.eu/eng/reservation/d76d1156-e9f7-43c1-b77b-b07189857820> Note the contact link: localhost:8888 Also note that is a WordPress plugin: <https://imgur.com/a/xnQ0OpW> Here's the one I was gonna pitch to the owner... a WP site that used the WP plugin Snit scoured the net (so you're also right about him projecting) to find: <https://streamable.com/h48g9> IOW, Snit's "evidence" backs the reality I pointed out. I was also going to pitch an alternative theme: <https://imgur.com/a/EqHuvup > > > > after you found I would not modify mine to your taste, > > > and back your efforts to copy it, > > > > C'mon, Snit... anyone can see your site is a dated mess ;) > > I can't, it seems fine to me. It seems fine as a business site that offers the building of websites?! I seriously doubt you actually believe that. > > > and a flood bot you use to automate your trolling. > > > > Stop projecting. > > Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ); > it hates _both_ of you. Snit has the strongest motive, by far, and as I've shown, the means; he lives on the 'net so he clearly has the opportunity, what with all his VPN crap and sock/shill army BS. The fact that Snit is continually trying to draw attention to it isn't just casually suspect, Jeff, this is *exactly* the kind of crap he's done with his sock/shills... for years. > > > In other words: you have "won" a wasted life. Congrats. > > > > Even if my life was like the dishonest BS you just described, how do > > you figure wasting your life on usenet the way you have is better? > > Again, he's looking in the mirror, talking to himself. > > > > > I'm just pointing out that he's dishonest while he claims otherwise... > > > > no one wins in a deal like that. > > > > > > You lie more in a day than you can show me lying in a year. > > > > You just can't stop lying, can you? > > We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. He certainly disregards the truth regularly. > > > > I wish Apple would keep Safari as up to date as other browsers. > > > > > > Why not share the code and talk about tech? > > > > I doubt you'd understand it and, at this point, > > I don't think Relf cares to see any JavaScript with no goals in mind ;) > > You don't adopt every child you see; > likewise, I don't adopt every app I see. It actually does have a goal but not one you'd probably be interested in.
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 15:38 -0700 |
| Subject | My kids give zero fucks. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.7--3.38pm.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #454320 |
You (Steve) replied ( to me ): > > What do Mike's kids say about him ? > > Mine say nothing, they give Zero fucks. > > I doubt that's true It's true, my kids give zero fucks. > unless you've abused them or the mother did the 'mind trick'. She divorced me because "I wasn't Mormon enough" ( she said ); I didn't want any more kids while she did, big time. Eventually, she had them with another man, Rolf; 6 in total; they're still married and living in a super nice neighborhood, near my (rich) bother, Pete, up on the mountain side, near the mouth of Little CottenWood Canyon (SnowBird), Utah. Rolf adopted my kids, then aged 5 and 6.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 16:51 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). |
| Message-ID | <fntungFq968U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454320 |
On 6/7/18 2:30 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: ... >>>> no website >>> >>> Incorrect. >> >> You're none too proud of it; mine is "Jeff-Relf.Me". > > So Snit can flood it with crap, like he did with Sandman's site? I'll pass ;) See: this is another lie from you. I never did any such flooding. But you lie more in a day than I do in a year. And you recently talked about having no website... AND you tried to make one by copying mine and then begging me to update it to YOUR tastes. For example, you wanted me to move menus and center it. > You were correct when you once pointed out that Snit is a monumental > liar who is extremely jealous of people who do things he can't... so he > tries to knock them down to his level. Here's what he dishonestly claims > I built, which, as he correctly noted after looking at the code on the WB > Machine, uses GoDaddy's site builder: <https://imgur.com/a/pEnfK> > > Strangely, here's his "evidence" that *I* built that GoDaddy site: > <http://www.reservationdiary.eu/eng/reservation/d76d1156-e9f7-43c1-b77b-b07189857820> > > Note the contact link: localhost:8888 > Also note that is a WordPress plugin: <https://imgur.com/a/xnQ0OpW> > > Here's the one I was gonna pitch to the owner... a WP site that used the > WP plugin Snit scoured the net (so you're also right about him projecting) > to find: <https://streamable.com/h48g9> > > IOW, Snit's "evidence" backs the reality I pointed out. I was also going to > pitch an alternative theme: <https://imgur.com/a/EqHuvup > Ah, your new story is you copied someone else's site and tried to take credit for it as you posted about in in CSMA and COLA... then called me a "liar" for believing you. Do you not see the insanity of that? Keep in mind NOBODY other than you brought ANYTHING about that site to Usenet. >>>> after you found I would not modify mine to your taste, >>>> and back your efforts to copy it, >>> >>> C'mon, Snit... anyone can see your site is a dated mess ;) >> >> I can't, it seems fine to me. > > It seems fine as a business site that offers the building of websites?! > I seriously doubt you actually believe that. It has issues, but like with what you say of the site above, you copied mine. Then you begged me to alter it to fit YOUR tastes. Repeatedly. You wanted me to move menus, move it to WordPress, change menu locations, etc. All because that is what you wanted on YOUR site. And now you have NO site to show as your own. >>>> and a flood bot you use to automate your trolling. >>> >>> Stop projecting. >> >> Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ); >> it hates _both_ of you. > > Snit has the strongest motive, by far, and as I've shown, the means; > he lives on the 'net so he clearly has the opportunity, what with all > his VPN crap and sock/shill army BS. The fact that Snit is continually > trying to draw attention to it isn't just casually suspect, Jeff, this is > *exactly* the kind of crap he's done with his sock/shills... for years. Ah, you harass me for years and then use than as an excuse to blame me for your OWN actions, saying that gives me motive. And also allowed me to do as you accuses: hack your Gmail account in a way in which Google and "several federal agencies" could not stop. And if it was really not you why not contact Google and tell them someone is using your name? I suspect they would do something in that case (I have contacted them over it and gotten nowhere). As noted: you lie more in a day than I do in a year. Heck, you may have just done it wit that one paragraph! ... >>> You just can't stop lying, can you? >> >> We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. > > He certainly disregards the truth regularly. All those damned unquotable lies! LOL! Hey, you recently admitted that for over a decade I was right about Sandman's CSS no validating... even though the two of you lied about it for that whole time. Repeatedly. >>>>> I wish Apple would keep Safari as up to date as other browsers. >>>> >>>> Why not share the code and talk about tech? >>> >>> I doubt you'd understand it and, at this point, >>> I don't think Relf cares to see any JavaScript with no goals in mind ;) >> >> You don't adopt every child you see; >> likewise, I don't adopt every app I see. > > It actually does have a goal but not one you'd probably be interested in. Why not talk about that and not me? Why not focus on some other goal than flooding Usenet? -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 17:21 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). |
| Message-ID | <fe217471-b4ae-4141-83ec-704d0f3b8f6f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #454328 |
On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 5:51:16 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > On 6/7/18 2:30 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > ... > >>>> no website > >>> > >>> Incorrect. > >> > >> You're none too proud of it; mine is "Jeff-Relf.Me". > > > > So Snit can flood it with crap, like he did with Sandman's site? I'll pass ;) > > See: this is another lie from you. I never did any such flooding. You seem to forget... I saw his logs. > And you recently talked about having no website... I said I don't have a "business" website (and I don't, at least, not one that is solely mine for the business I conduct alone). I never said I didn't have *a* website. > > You were correct when you once pointed out that Snit is a monumental > > liar who is extremely jealous of people who do things he can't... so he > > tries to knock them down to his level. Here's what he dishonestly claims > > I built, which, as he correctly noted after looking at the code on the WB > > Machine, uses GoDaddy's site builder: <https://imgur.com/a/pEnfK> > > > > Strangely, here's his "evidence" that *I* built that GoDaddy site: > > <http://www.reservationdiary.eu/eng/reservation/d76d1156-e9f7-43c1-b77b-b07189857820> > > > > Note the contact link: localhost:8888 > > Also note that is a WordPress plugin: <https://imgur.com/a/xnQ0OpW> > > > > Here's the one I was gonna pitch to the owner... a WP site that used the > > WP plugin Snit scoured the net (so you're also right about him projecting) > > to find: <https://streamable.com/h48g9> > > > > IOW, Snit's "evidence" backs the reality I pointed out. I was also going to > > pitch an alternative theme: <https://imgur.com/a/EqHuvup > > > Ah, your new story You call several years old "new"? How many times have I pointed to this BS? Do you even know? Are you sober up to realize it's several? > is you copied someone else's site and tried to take > credit for it as you posted about in in CSMA and COLA... then called me > a "liar" for believing you. Do you not see the insanity of that? > > Keep in mind NOBODY other than you brought ANYTHING about that site to > Usenet. You did, forging my name... and you only did so after scouring the net looking for anything you could find on me... you know, the exact same thing you falsely accuse me of. Do uber-liberals do that a lot? > >>>> after you found I would not modify mine to your taste, > >>>> and back your efforts to copy it, > >>> > >>> C'mon, Snit... anyone can see your site is a dated mess ;) > >> > >> I can't, it seems fine to me. > > > > It seems fine as a business site that offers the building of websites?! > > I seriously doubt you actually believe that. > > It has issues My demos made for COLA have 'issues': <https://streamable.com/j2wq0> Your site is just funky ;) > And now you have NO site to show as your own. > > >>>> and a flood bot you use to automate your trolling. > >>> > >>> Stop projecting. > >> > >> Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ); > >> it hates _both_ of you. > > > > Snit has the strongest motive, by far, and as I've shown, the means; > > he lives on the 'net so he clearly has the opportunity, what with all > > his VPN crap and sock/shill army BS. The fact that Snit is continually > > trying to draw attention to it isn't just casually suspect, Jeff, this is > > *exactly* the kind of crap he's done with his sock/shills... for years. > > Ah, you harass me for years With "harass" meaning to call out your lies and/or return a *tiny* bit of what you deserve. > And if it was really not you why not contact Google and tell them > someone is using your name? I already showed my numerous email complaints to them, as I'm sure you've seen (that you'll pretend to not have). > I suspect they would do something in that > case (I have contacted them over it and gotten nowhere). I proved I contacted them. > > It actually does have a goal but not one you'd probably be interested in. > > Why not talk about that and not me? Why do you talk about you?
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 17:36 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). |
| Message-ID | <fnu1bjFp19uU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454332 |
On 6/7/18 5:21 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 5:51:16 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: >> On 6/7/18 2:30 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: >> ... >>>>>> no website >>>>> >>>>> Incorrect. >>>> >>>> You're none too proud of it; mine is "Jeff-Relf.Me". >>> >>> So Snit can flood it with crap, like he did with Sandman's site? I'll pass ;) >> >> See: this is another lie from you. I never did any such flooding. > > You seem to forget... I saw his logs. What you claim to have seen, and what logs he claims to have, are not in the slightest bit relevant here. The fact is I did no such thing. When you claim I did you are telling an un-truth. You can play games and say you believe it or were fooled by Sandman or whatever. Don't buy it. You are lying. I have asked for a truce. I am completely open to it. End this crap. Move on. Are you able? Sadly I bet not... but you have, as far as I know, kept to what the police told you and stopped your harassment outside of Usenet... so maybe there is a chance. >> And you recently talked about having no website... > > I said I don't have a "business" website (and I don't, at least, not one > that is solely mine for the business I conduct alone). I never said I didn't > have *a* website. Cool. Other than the one you copied from me, and the one you claim you copied from a restaurant, what one do you have? Heck, here is one of mine... a silly WordPress one: <http://hildoclump.wordpress.com> Just on online WordPress one. ... >>> IOW, Snit's "evidence" backs the reality I pointed out. I was also going to >>> pitch an alternative theme: <https://imgur.com/a/EqHuvup > >> >> Ah, your new story > > You call several years old "new"? How many times have I pointed to this > BS? Do you even know? Are you sober up to realize it's several? It is not the responsibility of others to track your different stories. It is not the responsibility of others to stop you from copying their sites. >> is you copied someone else's site and tried to take >> credit for it as you posted about in in CSMA and COLA... then called me >> a "liar" for believing you. Do you not see the insanity of that? >> >> Keep in mind NOBODY other than you brought ANYTHING about that site to >> Usenet. > > You did, forging my name... and you only did so after scouring the net > looking for anything you could find on me... you know, the exact same > thing you falsely accuse me of. Do uber-liberals do that a lot? See: THESE types of lies and attacks. CAN. YOU. STOP.? Just let it go. >>>>>> after you found I would not modify mine to your taste, >>>>>> and back your efforts to copy it, >>>>> >>>>> C'mon, Snit... anyone can see your site is a dated mess ;) >>>> >>>> I can't, it seems fine to me. >>> >>> It seems fine as a business site that offers the building of websites?! >>> I seriously doubt you actually believe that. >> >> It has issues > > My demos made for COLA have 'issues': > <https://streamable.com/j2wq0> > > Your site is just funky ;) Nice demo. Not an actual site you are using. >> And now you have NO site to show as your own. >> >>>>>> and a flood bot you use to automate your trolling. >>>>> >>>>> Stop projecting. >>>> >>>> Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ); >>>> it hates _both_ of you. >>> >>> Snit has the strongest motive, by far, and as I've shown, the means; >>> he lives on the 'net so he clearly has the opportunity, what with all >>> his VPN crap and sock/shill army BS. The fact that Snit is continually >>> trying to draw attention to it isn't just casually suspect, Jeff, this is >>> *exactly* the kind of crap he's done with his sock/shills... for years. >> >> Ah, you harass me for years > > With "harass" meaning to call out your lies and/or return a *tiny* bit of > what you deserve. See: you blame ME for YOUR actions. Nonstop. It is insanity. JUST. STOP. >> And if it was really not you why not contact Google and tell them >> someone is using your name? > > I already showed my numerous email complaints to them, as I'm sure > you've seen (that you'll pretend to not have). I saw you claiming it but do not recall any such emails. Remember, I did not read most of your posts for years (though I did see your claims I HAD to be). Just stop that shit already. OK? >> I suspect they would do something in that >> case (I have contacted them over it and gotten nowhere). > > I proved I contacted them. I doubt it... but whatever. Maybe we can contact them together. I want it to stop, too. Heck, Marek said he was going to sue you to get it to stop. That failed clearly. >>> It actually does have a goal but not one you'd probably be interested in. >> >> Why not talk about that and not me? > > Why do you talk about you? See: you can talk about you. I do not care. STOP. OBSESSING. OVER. ME. Got it? Are you able to? -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 18:07 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). |
| Message-ID | <97906841-472b-49af-b102-986a69e03d75@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #454334 |
On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 6:36:08 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > On 6/7/18 5:21 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 5:51:16 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > >> On 6/7/18 2:30 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > >> ... > >>>>>> no website > >>>>> > >>>>> Incorrect. > >>>> > >>>> You're none too proud of it; mine is "Jeff-Relf.Me". > >>> > >>> So Snit can flood it with crap, like he did with Sandman's site? I'll pass ;) > >> > >> See: this is another lie from you. I never did any such flooding. > > > > You seem to forget... I saw his logs. > > What you claim to have seen I claim what is true, as did Sandman. Of course, in your head we're both "lying", as is Relf for having said what he just did, right? How does that work, where you're the only person who is 'right'? > I have asked for a truce. We're not at war... the only war is the one you have with reality, Ask it for a truce or succumb to it, then we'll all be fine. > Heck, here is one of mine... a silly WordPress one: > > <http://hildoclump.wordpress.com> Don't you think that poor women has suffered enough? (yes, that's a joke) > ... > >>> IOW, Snit's "evidence" backs the reality I pointed out. I was also going to > >>> pitch an alternative theme: <https://imgur.com/a/EqHuvup > > >> > >> Ah, your new story > > > > You call several years old "new"? How many times have I pointed to this > > BS? Do you even know? Are you sober up to realize it's several? > > It is not the responsibility of others to track your different stories. You should probably track what you're going to lie about... just a thought. > >> Ah, you harass me for years > > > > With "harass" meaning to call out your lies and/or return a *tiny* bit of > > what you deserve. > > See: you blame ME for YOUR actions. Incorrect, I blame you for your actions, up to and including falsely blaming me for all kinds of garbage I had nothing to do with that you *claim* has happened to you and people in your life.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 18:20 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). |
| Message-ID | <fnu3v3Fr3p6U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454337 |
On 6/7/18 6:07 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 6:36:08 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: >> On 6/7/18 5:21 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: >>> On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 5:51:16 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: >>>> On 6/7/18 2:30 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: >>>> ... >>>>>>>> no website >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Incorrect. >>>>>> >>>>>> You're none too proud of it; mine is "Jeff-Relf.Me". >>>>> >>>>> So Snit can flood it with crap, like he did with Sandman's site? I'll pass ;) >>>> >>>> See: this is another lie from you. I never did any such flooding. >>> >>> You seem to forget... I saw his logs. >> >> What you claim to have seen > > I claim what is true, as did Sandman. Of course, in your head > we're both "lying", as is Relf for having said what he just did, > right? How does that work, where you're the only person who > is 'right'? See. Empty, meaningless accusations. CAN. YOU. STOP.? >> I have asked for a truce. > > We're not at war... the only war is the one you have with reality, > Ask it for a truce or succumb to it, then we'll all be fine. CAN. YOU. STOP.? >> Heck, here is one of mine... a silly WordPress one: >> >> <http://hildoclump.wordpress.com> > > Don't you think that poor women has suffered enough? > (yes, that's a joke) Hildo is genderless. :) >> ... >>>>> IOW, Snit's "evidence" backs the reality I pointed out. I was also going to >>>>> pitch an alternative theme: <https://imgur.com/a/EqHuvup > >>>> >>>> Ah, your new story >>> >>> You call several years old "new"? How many times have I pointed to this >>> BS? Do you even know? Are you sober up to realize it's several? >> >> It is not the responsibility of others to track your different stories. > > You should probably track what you're going to lie about... > just a thought. CAN. YOU. STOP.? >>>> Ah, you harass me for years >>> >>> With "harass" meaning to call out your lies and/or return a *tiny* bit of >>> what you deserve. >> >> See: you blame ME for YOUR actions. > > Incorrect, I blame you for your actions, up to and including > falsely blaming me for all kinds of garbage I had nothing to > do with that you *claim* has happened to you and people > in your life. This type of crap. CAN. YOU. STOP.? End it. Move on and stop playing grade school put down games. JUST STOP. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Sandman <mr@sandman.net> |
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| Date | 2018-06-08 16:53 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). |
| Message-ID | <sandman-57fa6ad1570095ce9f2547ed1d66f909@individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454334 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 In article <fnu1bjFp19uU6@mid.individual.net>, Snit wrote: > > > Snit: > > > ... > > > > > > > > > no website > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Carroll: > > > > > > Incorrect. > > > > > > > > > > @: > > > > > You're none too proud of it; mine is "Jeff-Relf.Me". > > > > > > > > Steve Carroll: > > > > So Snit can flood it with crap, like he did with Sandman's > > > > site? I'll pass ;) > > > > > > Snit: > > > See: this is another lie from you. I never did any such > > > flooding. > > > > Steve Carroll: > > You seem to forget... I saw his logs. > > What you claim to have seen, and what logs he claims to have, are > not in the slightest bit relevant here. The fact is I did no such > thing. [X] Lying (http://tinyurl.com/gtdd77m) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJbGrR+AAoJECFEwfBaA+jR9wcIAO6lGkHfujWIPPQNN3bjjNAU GI64lcBeku+HN+B8wj8qzGhkLxHx2bhZZIMn54vx0xOEBaLugETlwjpf025hjrgj t1mZIB24IDHJM6ocpQjj6bRI1B0NjeKqdQKniB1V5Pwdw8hPQR+udWH76fxMcLlx 8EpjvKx75d4uZ7wPJT+NV3KgHAl8ZX2XvH7tg9qgXx6U950bZKWHISk/bG6h0rhh ityZ+Jd+iwXhSdqZVVGkLump16E0ujMy8Hw1rU7Hy7PPxCQlqZMn8TO12IC2qdLD xM+0TUBmqc8hFnH5QuMRZhKpYtlXoNf2TzczdCJzOrz/PeJDzpWtKn67zNQ741A= =Shor -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Sandman
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| From | Sandman <mr@sandman.net> |
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| Date | 2018-06-08 16:49 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). |
| Message-ID | <sandman-1aadc28774bd2d10925c5de6d6e06e86@individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454328 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 In article <fntungFq968U1@mid.individual.net>, Snit wrote: > > Steve Carroll: > > So Snit can flood it with crap, like he did with Sandman's site? > > I'll pass ;) > > See: this is another lie from you. I never did any such flooding. [X] Lying (http://tinyurl.com/gtdd77m) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJbGrOeAAoJECFEwfBaA+jR7OAIAOu0yf5Zyp2V0xJ4239OMeJ5 dT7tb8sjlegwAzW4Srh3k2xezmaq+aQtMaSNw8UUl6R3kz7RJje75sS24e7DjY27 hLXoWkvNtdkUckwVcGwP9oB93hd8PanuMOa3haRaGZUWECYo1Jkoqe/Di1UBkq0b xLGAIw9KaEyWaoFQDa6fh/s5SxzlVw2CDpHwJ2bQQJiyQR3CIyvL9fNGH2YFPAbl uEC4o61ogNMOIPYyXSDhtcgWIVHQfAt5UrH+iqQXHGAAcheA+tAjMCaR5XikKADy eW+v1YAU3AOF7+IQCurQVPP142T/1RyqFCm+oX4qOnORLAAVQDkZSqow3jFah08= =LjJ+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Sandman
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 16:40 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). |
| Message-ID | <fntu33Fp19uU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454317 |
On 6/7/18 12:45 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > You (Steve) replied ( to Mike ): >>>>> Steve is winning, Mike is losing. >>>> >>>> I'd like to collect... what'd I win? ;) >>> >>> A decade-plus of your life with no sign of any income, >> >> So... all the gear in my studio just magically appeared?! >> I wonder if I can wish for a Dumble... > > Again, Mike is talking about himself, not you; > "no sign of any income" for 13 years, he says. Carroll obsesses over my business and personal life. He does this as he refuses to show ANYTHING about his life. I have fun shoving his crap back in his face. >>> a divorce, >> >> Two, actually, and I'm *very* thankful for both ;) > > Mike hasn't had that pleasure YET, but he will; > meanwhile, he's a KnowItAll feminist. Even if something did happen to my marriage I would not blame Carroll as he blamed me. And he HAS repeatedly contacted my wife, as has Sandman, where Carroll lies about me having contacted his wife. She left him after she found his posts online. Carroll uses to speak about his "road trips" to his then-girlfriend. >>> a life that leads you to speak horribly of your kids, >> >> That's being done by you, when you're forging my name. > > What do Mike's kids say about him ? > Mine say nothing, they give Zero fucks. My kids and I have a great relationship and I am very proud of them. I do not talk about them much but I will say I just got them from art camp. The oldest went as a volunteer -- in the past they have only had older volunteers but they asked for her to come because they trust and like her. She also is an amazing artist. The youngest is also doing amazingly well. They have both been raised to be respectful and to use their brains, with their parents modeling this as well. >>> no website >> >> Incorrect. > > You're none too proud of it; mine is "Jeff-Relf.Me". Carroll will attack you for it... then try to copy it and demand you change YOURS to fit HIS tastes. He wants someone to make a website for him for free. He before admitted he did not have a website, but now says he does. >>> after you found I would not modify mine to your taste, >>> and back your efforts to copy it, >> >> C'mon, Snit... anyone can see your site is a dated mess ;) > > I can't, it seems fine to me. No matter what issues the one he repeatedly points to has (and it does have some) the fact is as he worked to make his "own" website he copied mine then begged me to change mine to fit HIS tastes. Imitation, they say, is the sincerest form of flattery. Carroll clearly shows he is impressed with my site. >>> and a flood bot you use to automate your trolling. >> >> Stop projecting. > > Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ); > it hates _both_ of you. Carroll and Sandman have shown off the tech they use to do it. Sandman still auto-posts with his, and the idea that someone hacked Carroll's account, as he claimed, is absurd. Unless Carroll gave away the password to someone else it is him. Period. ...>>>> I'm just pointing out that he's dishonest while he claims otherwise... >>>> no one wins in a deal like that. >>> >>> You lie more in a day than you can show me lying in a year. >> >> You just can't stop lying, can you? > > We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Carroll claims I tell lies he cannot quote. I quote Carroll's lies and call him out on them. Heck, his blaming me for his bot which he has shown videos on and even shared some of the code. It is insane. >>>> I wish Apple would keep Safari as up to date as other browsers. >>> >>> Why not share the code and talk about tech? >> >> I doubt you'd understand it and, at this point, >> I don't think Relf cares to see any JavaScript with no goals in mind ;) > > You don't adopt every child you see; > likewise, I don't adopt every app I see. Carroll might very well be right about our response to his JavaScript... but sharing his tech work would be MUCH better than using the tech to flood Usenet. ... -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Sandman <mr@sandman.net> |
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| Date | 2018-06-08 16:54 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). |
| Message-ID | <sandman-fd81dbe85c208b6913797f581ccf1bb4@individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454327 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 In article <fntu33Fp19uU2@mid.individual.net>, Snit wrote: > > > > Snit: > > > > a divorce, > > > > > > Steve Carroll: > > > Two, actually, and I'm *very* thankful for both ;) > > > > @: > > Mike hasn't had that pleasure YET, but he will; > > meanwhile, he's a KnowItAll feminist. > > Even if something did happen to my marriage I would not blame > Carroll as he blamed me. And he HAS repeatedly contacted my wife, as > has Sandman [X] Lying (http://tinyurl.com/gtdd77m) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJbGrSoAAoJECFEwfBaA+jRB4wH/1t8WNKWxhMVuagk++Dy9qlX iToztLtU560iXPX5vsoCnouh44DV6woJ/a7OmeUZXjda4lNYGoMN/PIqhkq88XxS JyRYWsorRnefuI4doi5tS7k/DZgiivzqh5hxFEjzsDeeLdYNyJLSIYY/nHIEX9xZ A8YPda6TfeiQsPQaukF5UC24ZMB8FdpeeYLmtIAIa3m4TOXk85IzliWhhNNs0F4i /VNryNfl7eSOfO2dOtil0RgsDY978siT5wM6cIQV4hmd2Lpx/6xn7hJqlh6DOilA qFR7FT36fLd0Gbx/tIJqq16uF+p3rEXHBN3b38qxMXtRx57iPzI3+J62zkOEqV0= =6HKu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Sandman
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 16:24 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. |
| Message-ID | <fntt58Fp19uU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454316 |
On 6/7/18 11:32 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:22:51 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: >> On 6/6/18 9:11 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: >>> On 2018-06-07 03:46:50 +0000, Jeff-Relf.Me @. said: >>> >>>> Steve told Mike: >>>>> Fact: You can't know what I "have" or what my income is. >>>>> >>>>> Fact: Learning isn't value-less because it's not tied to monetary >>>>> compensation. >>>>> >>>>> You are clearly opposing both those facts. >>>>> If you don't believe you are, >>>>> then you probably need to adjust your medication again. >>>> >>>> Steve is winning, Mike is losing. >>> >>> I'd like to collect... what'd I win? ;) >> >> A decade-plus of your life with no sign of any income > > So... all the gear in my studio just magically appeared?! > I wonder if I can wish for a Dumble... Income and "gear" are not synonymous terms. >> , a divorce, > > Two, actually, and I'm *very* thankful for both ;) Do you blame me for both or just one? And not surprising you find it hard to stay in a marriage. And which one of your ex's did you claim I had contacted? >> a life that leads you to speak horribly of your kids, > > That's being done by you, when you're forging my name. Not a surprise you blame me for your own comments. >> no website > > Incorrect. You tried to copy mine and then, when I refused to alter mine more to your tastes, you gave up on it. You have no other site. If you did you would be bragging about how it was better than mine. You would not be able to help yourself. >> after you found I would not modify mine to your taste and back >> your efforts to copy it, > > C'mon, Snit... anyone can see your site is a dated mess ;) Does not change the fact you repeatedly talked about, and even showed, where you worked to copy at least the look and feel of it and then begged me to alter mine to fit YOUR tastes. >> and a flood bot you use to automate your trolling. > > Stop projecting. You even posted videos and code tied to your flood bot. You then freaked out and insisted I *must* be able to do what took you and Sandman, together, years to figure out how to do. >> In other words: you have "won" a wasted life. Congrats. It is yours. > > Even if my life was like the dishonest BS you just described, how do > you figure wasting your life on usenet the way you have is better? My marriage is still strong. My first marriage. I *never* post to Usenet about complaints about my kids. Never. I never blame you for any script I have written. I never go outside of Usenet and seek our your work and try to copy it and if I did know of any of it (assuming you had any) beg you to change it to fit my tastes. I never post links to some dating profile where I am looking for senior citizens. I do not post with uncounted number of socks as you do. I am sure I can go on... but unlike you I do not even try to track and keep dibs on your life. I do not care. But I do lie less in a year than you do in a day. You can try to put me on the defensive all you want -- and you will -- but you cannot change those facts. >>> I'm just pointing out that he's dishonest while he claims otherwise... >>> no one wins in a deal like that. >> >> You lie more in a day than you can show me lying in a year. > > You just can't stop lying, can you? See: you claim I tell all sorts of unquotable lies. I point out your quotable lies as you tell them. Look above where you lie about having a website, about me bringing your kids to Usenet, etc. You lie nonstop. >>> Totally off topic: I've been racking my brain over a JavaScript date >>> object issue, trying to get it to work in Safari and iOS. I have several >>> lines of code which work in Chrome, FireFox and Opera (even Brave) but >>> not Safari or iOS. I did just get a little 'win' by writing 2 small >>> lines of code that works on all of them, though. I wish Apple would keep >>> Safari as up to date as other browsers. >> >> Why not share the code and talk about tech? > > I doubt you'd understand it and, at this point, I don't think Relf cares > to see any JavaScript with no goals in mind ;) Last night I did fix a date > object issue that Safari and iOS have; I also added the ability to control > the date range from the sheet (IOW, there are display implications here). Good chance I would not understand it. Absolutely. Heck, it might not even interest me, esp. if you obsess over having me look at it and demand to talk to ME about it. But it STILL would be a lot better than you lying non-stop. >> Would be SO much better than your obsession with me. > > You obsess with you. Why do you think you can bully people into believing > things they know isn't true? Has this worked in the past for you? That I've > seen, it's never worked on usenet... so why bother? All you've gotten for > your efforts is to rightfully be considered one of the biggest liars on usenet. > That's your 'win'. Weird. Once again you refuse to talk about tech and just insist on talking about your fantasies (and lies) about me non-stop. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 17:07 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. |
| Message-ID | <b1a70c64-3ed9-420c-833d-1228f73c954f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #454326 |
On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 5:24:27 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > On 6/7/18 11:32 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > > On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:22:51 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > >> On 6/6/18 9:11 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > >>> On 2018-06-07 03:46:50 +0000, Jeff-Relf.Me @. said: > >>> > >>>> Steve told Mike: > >>>>> Fact: You can't know what I "have" or what my income is. > >>>>> > >>>>> Fact: Learning isn't value-less because it's not tied to monetary > >>>>> compensation. > >>>>> > >>>>> You are clearly opposing both those facts. > >>>>> If you don't believe you are, > >>>>> then you probably need to adjust your medication again. > >>>> > >>>> Steve is winning, Mike is losing. > >>> > >>> I'd like to collect... what'd I win? ;) > >> > >> A decade-plus of your life with no sign of any income > > > > So... all the gear in my studio just magically appeared?! > > I wonder if I can wish for a Dumble... > > Income and "gear" are not synonymous terms. So you really *do* believe it all magically appeared. LOL! Anyway, this is an "interesting" confrontation from a guy who obviously hasn't made much in years. So tell me, what you have to show for your degrees? Oh yeah... that funky, dated website and a dated Dreamweaver screencast series. Looks like a total waste of the taxpayer's money. You teach the building of websites to "others" as you make absurdly ridiculous statements like: "You can usually tell a WordPress site (or other template based system) with a glance just by looking at it... no need to go to the code." Funny stuff ;) > >> , a divorce, > > > > Two, actually, and I'm *very* thankful for both ;) > > Do you blame me for both or just one? There must be a med that can help with your narcissism... > >> after you found I would not modify mine to your taste and back > >> your efforts to copy it, > > > > C'mon, Snit... anyone can see your site is a dated mess ;) > > Does not change the fact you repeatedly talked about, and even showed, > where you worked to copy at least the look and feel of it To pixel perfection on the WP theme you were using that I fixed and offered to you for free. > >> and a flood bot you use to automate your trolling. > > > > Stop projecting. > > You even posted videos and code tied to your flood bot. And you'll prove it real soon, too <eyeroll>. > >> In other words: you have "won" a wasted life. Congrats. It is yours. > > > > Even if my life was like the dishonest BS you just described, how do > > you figure wasting your life on usenet the way you have is better? > > My marriage is still strong. Keep tellin' yourself that ;)
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 17:24 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. |
| Message-ID | <fnu0mdFp19uU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454331 |
On 6/7/18 5:07 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 5:24:27 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: >> On 6/7/18 11:32 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: >>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:22:51 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: >>>> On 6/6/18 9:11 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: >>>>> On 2018-06-07 03:46:50 +0000, Jeff-Relf.Me @. said: >>>>> >>>>>> Steve told Mike: >>>>>>> Fact: You can't know what I "have" or what my income is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fact: Learning isn't value-less because it's not tied to monetary >>>>>>> compensation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are clearly opposing both those facts. >>>>>>> If you don't believe you are, >>>>>>> then you probably need to adjust your medication again. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve is winning, Mike is losing. >>>>> >>>>> I'd like to collect... what'd I win? ;) >>>> >>>> A decade-plus of your life with no sign of any income >>> >>> So... all the gear in my studio just magically appeared?! >>> I wonder if I can wish for a Dumble... >> >> Income and "gear" are not synonymous terms. > > So you really *do* believe it all magically appeared. All of what? Some "gear" you show no evidence of? Some "gear" you may have stolen, as you tried to steal my site. No, that does not take magic... and the very idea it would is, well, a lie on your part. > LOL! Anyway, this > is an "interesting" confrontation from a guy who obviously hasn't made > much in years. So tell me, what you have to show for your degrees? Oh > yeah... that funky, dated website and a dated Dreamweaver screencast > series. Looks like a total waste of the taxpayer's money. You teach the > building of websites to "others" as you make absurdly ridiculous > statements like: Your obsession with me is insane. You do realize the ONLY reasons I speak about your life at all is your obsession with mine, your blaming me for all wrong in your life, and your non-stop posting about your life as you play victim. Heck, just today you accused me of posting the attacks against YOUR kids that YOU posted. Why not stop. Hey, I have made this offer before and I make it again now: let us BOTH stop this endless idiocy and stop attacking each other. Just stop. Done. Deal? Are you willing? I ABSOLUTELY am. As long as you respect the limits the police set for you I shall not even bring up your harassment. It is, I hope, done and over with. You have me reading and responding to your posts -- something you have been seeking for years -- why not end this and you can even say you "win". Post ONE post bragging how you "got" me to respond to you. Whatever. Just be done with it. Move on with your life. > "You can usually tell a WordPress site (or other template based system) > with a glance just by looking at it... no need to go to the code." > > Funny stuff ;) You often can. The template-look is pretty obvious on most. Sometimes I make that guess and it is another system, but most of the time I can tell. Does not mean you cannot find counter-examples. >>>> , a divorce, >>> >>> Two, actually, and I'm *very* thankful for both ;) >> >> Do you blame me for both or just one? > > There must be a med that can help with your narcissism... This type of mindless attack... can you stop? Seriously... no counter attack from me. No speaking of your past absurd accusations. Just stop. Deal? >>>> after you found I would not modify mine to your taste and back >>>> your efforts to copy it, >>> >>> C'mon, Snit... anyone can see your site is a dated mess ;) >> >> Does not change the fact you repeatedly talked about, and even showed, >> where you worked to copy at least the look and feel of it > > To pixel perfection on the WP theme you were using that I fixed > and offered to you for free. This is also insanity from you: you steal my work and beg me to change MY site to fit YOUR tastes and then lie and say you were trying to help me. That is such a transparent lie not even Sandman will jump in saying he believes it. It is just insanity. >>>> and a flood bot you use to automate your trolling. >>> >>> Stop projecting. >> >> You even posted videos and code tied to your flood bot. > > And you'll prove it real soon, too <eyeroll>. For crying out loud... you posted your auto-posting script recently. This is not ancient history. These types of games from you: can you stop them? >>>> In other words: you have "won" a wasted life. Congrats. It is yours. >>> >>> Even if my life was like the dishonest BS you just described, how do >>> you figure wasting your life on usenet the way you have is better? >> >> My marriage is still strong. > > Keep tellin' yourself that ;) See: this type of nonsense attacks against me. Remember, YOU are the one who brought complaints about your wife to Usenet, YOU are the one who lied about me contacting her, YOU are the one who bragged about cheating on her to show off or whatever, YOU and your ex-girlfriend are the ones who tracked down information about my family. Can you just STOP this crap? Just end it. In 2004 you *imagined* I did wrong to you... and you have been unable to move on since then -- following me from forum to forum to harass me and troll me. Can you not see why that is just insane? Let it go. Seriously, I do not hold grudges... I am happy to move on. Let the past be the past. Deal? -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 17:44 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. |
| Message-ID | <052e57aa-6b8a-4aba-baf9-1a86d242b7a5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #454333 |
On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 6:24:48 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > On 6/7/18 5:07 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 5:24:27 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > >> On 6/7/18 11:32 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > >>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:22:51 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > >>>> On 6/6/18 9:11 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > >>>>> On 2018-06-07 03:46:50 +0000, Jeff-Relf.Me @. said: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Steve told Mike: > >>>>>>> Fact: You can't know what I "have" or what my income is. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Fact: Learning isn't value-less because it's not tied to monetary > >>>>>>> compensation. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You are clearly opposing both those facts. > >>>>>>> If you don't believe you are, > >>>>>>> then you probably need to adjust your medication again. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Steve is winning, Mike is losing. > >>>>> > >>>>> I'd like to collect... what'd I win? ;) > >>>> > >>>> A decade-plus of your life with no sign of any income > >>> > >>> So... all the gear in my studio just magically appeared?! > >>> I wonder if I can wish for a Dumble... > >> > >> Income and "gear" are not synonymous terms. > > > > So you really *do* believe it all magically appeared. > > All of what? My studio gear... that I've posted pics of *in* my studio, a number of times over the years. > > LOL! Anyway, this > > is an "interesting" confrontation from a guy who obviously hasn't made > > much in years. So tell me, what you have to show for your degrees? Oh > > yeah... that funky, dated website and a dated Dreamweaver screencast > > series. Looks like a total waste of the taxpayer's money. You teach the > > building of websites to "others" as you make absurdly ridiculous > > statements like: > > Your obsession with me is insane. So you got nothin' and the taxpayers were robbed. Makes one wonder why you brought this topic up when you knew you'd look like an idiotic hypocrite for doing so. > > "You can usually tell a WordPress site (or other template based system) > > with a glance just by looking at it... no need to go to the code." > > > > Funny stuff ;) > > You often can. You said without looking at the code... to that, I say: Bull if the default attributions have been removed. > The template-look is pretty obvious on most. Talk about these "pretty obvious" giveaways. > Sometimes I > make that guess and it is another system, but most of the time I can tell. It's a great claim to make unless someone is in the room with you to watch you blow it. On the 'net, no one can disprove you. I know better. > >>>> after you found I would not modify mine to your taste and back > >>>> your efforts to copy it, > >>> > >>> C'mon, Snit... anyone can see your site is a dated mess ;) > >> > >> Does not change the fact you repeatedly talked about, and even showed, > >> where you worked to copy at least the look and feel of it > > > > To pixel perfection on the WP theme you were using that I fixed > > and offered to you for free. > > This is also insanity from you LOL! That was the very reason you whined, that demo even used your header image (and I apologized for that oversight). > >>>> and a flood bot you use to automate your trolling. > >>> > >>> Stop projecting. > >> > >> You even posted videos and code tied to your flood bot. > > > > And you'll prove it real soon, too <eyeroll>. > > For crying out loud... I see no link, as expected, just more hot air, also as expected. > >>>> In other words: you have "won" a wasted life. Congrats. It is yours. > >>> > >>> Even if my life was like the dishonest BS you just described, how do > >>> you figure wasting your life on usenet the way you have is better? > >> > >> My marriage is still strong. > > > > Keep tellin' yourself that ;) > > See: this type of nonsense attacks against me. Attack?! LOL! That is the likelihood, the reality that you aren't even aware of yet.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 17:55 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. |
| Message-ID | <fnu2ghFp19uU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454335 |
On 6/7/18 5:44 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 6:24:48 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: >> On 6/7/18 5:07 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: >>> On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 5:24:27 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: >>>> On 6/7/18 11:32 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:22:51 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: >>>>>> On 6/6/18 9:11 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: >>>>>>> On 2018-06-07 03:46:50 +0000, Jeff-Relf.Me @. said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Steve told Mike: >>>>>>>>> Fact: You can't know what I "have" or what my income is. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Fact: Learning isn't value-less because it's not tied to monetary >>>>>>>>> compensation. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You are clearly opposing both those facts. >>>>>>>>> If you don't believe you are, >>>>>>>>> then you probably need to adjust your medication again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Steve is winning, Mike is losing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd like to collect... what'd I win? ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> A decade-plus of your life with no sign of any income >>>>> >>>>> So... all the gear in my studio just magically appeared?! >>>>> I wonder if I can wish for a Dumble... >>>> >>>> Income and "gear" are not synonymous terms. >>> >>> So you really *do* believe it all magically appeared. >> >> All of what? > > My studio gear... that I've posted pics of *in* my studio, a number of > times over the years. Do not recall seeing it... but even if you did post an image, how do we know it is yours? >>> LOL! Anyway, this >>> is an "interesting" confrontation from a guy who obviously hasn't made >>> much in years. So tell me, what you have to show for your degrees? Oh >>> yeah... that funky, dated website and a dated Dreamweaver screencast >>> series. Looks like a total waste of the taxpayer's money. You teach the >>> building of websites to "others" as you make absurdly ridiculous >>> statements like: >> >> Your obsession with me is insane. > > So you got nothin' and the taxpayers were robbed. Makes one > wonder why you brought this topic up when you knew you'd > look like an idiotic hypocrite for doing so. See: THIS. That type of shit? Why? What do you get out of your insults and attacks and lies? And more than that, why not just stop? >>> "You can usually tell a WordPress site (or other template based system) >>> with a glance just by looking at it... no need to go to the code." >>> >>> Funny stuff ;) >> >> You often can. > > You said without looking at the code... to that, I say: Bull if the > default attributions have been removed. You can disagree... but I am letting you know it is not hard in MANY cases. Could be WordPress or some other template maker... but it often not hard to tell. >> The template-look is pretty obvious on most. > > Talk about these "pretty obvious" giveaways. The menu systems and the like. The look and feel -- but really never thought of the details. Happy to look at this if you wish. That would be MUCH better than the current nonsense. >> Sometimes I >> make that guess and it is another system, but most of the time I can tell.. > > It's a great claim to make unless someone is in the room with you to > watch you blow it. On the 'net, no one can disprove you. I know better. So you make claims knowing nobody can disprove you. Sigh. Hey, there was a time you and Sandman were insisting you could tell when a site was made with Dreamweaver (as though it cannot be made with both or neither). >>>>>> after you found I would not modify mine to your taste and back >>>>>> your efforts to copy it, >>>>> >>>>> C'mon, Snit... anyone can see your site is a dated mess ;) >>>> >>>> Does not change the fact you repeatedly talked about, and even showed, >>>> where you worked to copy at least the look and feel of it >>> >>> To pixel perfection on the WP theme you were using that I fixed >>> and offered to you for free. >> >> This is also insanity from you > > LOL! That was the very reason you whined, that demo even used > your header image (and I apologized for that oversight). See: THIS. You copied my site and then wanted me to change MINE to fit YOUR tastes. You repeatedly lied about it to try to get me to. It was madness. >>>>>> and a flood bot you use to automate your trolling. >>>>> >>>>> Stop projecting. >>>> >>>> You even posted videos and code tied to your flood bot. >>> >>> And you'll prove it real soon, too <eyeroll>. >> >> For crying out loud... > > I see no link, as expected, just more hot air, also as expected. See, another example. Heck: with the code, I think, you removed it and then said it was just for me to see and you did not want to leave it there. With the video... whatever... not digging back to see if the link is still active. NOT PLAYING THAT GAME. Are you denying you posted info on your auto-posting. >>>>>> In other words: you have "won" a wasted life. Congrats. It is yours. >>>>> >>>>> Even if my life was like the dishonest BS you just described, how do >>>>> you figure wasting your life on usenet the way you have is better? >>>> >>>> My marriage is still strong. >>> >>> Keep tellin' yourself that ;) >> >> See: this type of nonsense attacks against me. > > Attack?! LOL! That is the likelihood, the reality that you aren't > even aware of yet. CAN. YOU. STOP.? Truce. Just end. This stupid nonsense has been going on since 2004. CAN. YOU. STOP.? -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 18:19 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. |
| Message-ID | <3528119c-3711-4eae-bf73-3265ee687636@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #454336 |
On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 6:55:48 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > On 6/7/18 5:44 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > > So you got nothin' and the taxpayers were robbed. Makes one > > wonder why you brought this topic up when you knew you'd > > look like an idiotic hypocrite for doing so. > > See: THIS. > > That type of shit? You opened your fat mouth and made false claims about what I "have to show" for my knowledge. What do you think you should have expected as a response? > >>> "You can usually tell a WordPress site (or other template based system) > >>> with a glance just by looking at it... no need to go to the code." > >>> > >>> Funny stuff ;) > >> > >> You often can. > > > > You said without looking at the code... to that, I say: Bull if the > > default attributions have been removed. > > You can disagree... but I am letting you know it is not hard in MANY > cases. Could be WordPress or some other template maker... but it often > not hard to tell. If you're actually serious... and I doubt it, you're letting me know that you know less about template based CMS than I previously suspected. > >> The template-look is pretty obvious on most. > > > > Talk about these "pretty obvious" giveaways. > > The menu systems and the like. The look and feel -- but really never > thought of the details. Happy to look at this if you wish. Like I said, unless someone is in the room with you, it's an easy claim to make on the 'net because there is no way to tell when you've blown it. You've apparently forgotten the time that I tweaked that WP site so all vestiges of WP were removed (I even changed folder names). Themes can be made to look *any* way you want. You also seem to forget that I made the WP demo of your site, which proves that point. > That would be MUCH better than the current nonsense. > > >> Sometimes I > >> make that guess and it is another system, but most of the time I can tell.. > > > > It's a great claim to make unless someone is in the room with you to > > watch you blow it. On the 'net, no one can disprove you. I know better. > > So you make claims knowing nobody can disprove you. LOL! That'd be *you* making claims about template based sites and what CMS they stem from. You have a serious identity issue, don't you ;) > >>>>>> after you found I would not modify mine to your taste and back > >>>>>> your efforts to copy it, > >>>>> > >>>>> C'mon, Snit... anyone can see your site is a dated mess ;) > >>>> > >>>> Does not change the fact you repeatedly talked about, and even showed, > >>>> where you worked to copy at least the look and feel of it > >>> > >>> To pixel perfection on the WP theme you were using that I fixed > >>> and offered to you for free. > >> > >> This is also insanity from you > > > > LOL! That was the very reason you whined, that demo even used > > your header image (and I apologized for that oversight). > > See: THIS. > > You copied my site So you do remember... good, then you're a witness to my point above. > >>>>>> and a flood bot you use to automate your trolling. > >>>>> > >>>>> Stop projecting. > >>>> > >>>> You even posted videos and code tied to your flood bot. > >>> > >>> And you'll prove it real soon, too <eyeroll>. > >> > >> For crying out loud... > > > > I see no link, as expected, just more hot air, also as expected. > > See No, I still don't see any proof of this claim, like most of your claims.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 18:23 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. |
| Message-ID | <fnu447Fr3p6U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454338 |
On 6/7/18 6:19 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 6:55:48 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: >> On 6/7/18 5:44 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > > >>> So you got nothin' and the taxpayers were robbed. Makes one >>> wonder why you brought this topic up when you knew you'd >>> look like an idiotic hypocrite for doing so. >> >> See: THIS. >> >> That type of shit? > > You opened your fat mouth and made false claims about what I > "have to show" for my knowledge. What do you think you should > have expected as a response? If you have more to show then show it. That would be cool. >>>>> "You can usually tell a WordPress site (or other template based system) >>>>> with a glance just by looking at it... no need to go to the code." >>>>> >>>>> Funny stuff ;) >>>> >>>> You often can. >>> >>> You said without looking at the code... to that, I say: Bull if the >>> default attributions have been removed. >> >> You can disagree... but I am letting you know it is not hard in MANY >> cases. Could be WordPress or some other template maker... but it often >> not hard to tell. > > If you're actually serious... and I doubt it, you're letting me know > that you know less about template based CMS than I previously > suspected. Sigh. See... just mindless attacks. CAN. YOU. STOP.? >>>> The template-look is pretty obvious on most. >>> >>> Talk about these "pretty obvious" giveaways. >> >> The menu systems and the like. The look and feel -- but really never >> thought of the details. Happy to look at this if you wish. > > Like I said, unless someone is in the room with you, it's an easy claim > to make on the 'net because there is no way to tell when you've blown > it. You've apparently forgotten the time that I tweaked that WP site so > all vestiges of WP were removed (I even changed folder names). > Themes can be made to look *any* way you want. You also seem to > forget that I made the WP demo of your site, which proves that point. As I said, there are exceptions. But *GENERALLY* you can tell. But point to some where you think it would be harder. >> That would be MUCH better than the current nonsense. >> >>>> Sometimes I >>>> make that guess and it is another system, but most of the time I can tell.. >>> >>> It's a great claim to make unless someone is in the room with you to >>> watch you blow it. On the 'net, no one can disprove you. I know better. >> >> So you make claims knowing nobody can disprove you. > > LOL! That'd be *you* making claims about template based sites > and what CMS they stem from. You have a serious identity issue, > don't you ;) THIS TYPE OF MINDLESS INSULTS. CAN. YOU. STOP.? >>>>>>>> after you found I would not modify mine to your taste and back >>>>>>>> your efforts to copy it, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> C'mon, Snit... anyone can see your site is a dated mess ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> Does not change the fact you repeatedly talked about, and even showed, >>>>>> where you worked to copy at least the look and feel of it >>>>> >>>>> To pixel perfection on the WP theme you were using that I fixed >>>>> and offered to you for free. >>>> >>>> This is also insanity from you >>> >>> LOL! That was the very reason you whined, that demo even used >>> your header image (and I apologized for that oversight). >> >> See: THIS. >> >> You copied my site > > So you do remember... good, then you're a witness to my point above. THIS TYPE CRAP. CAN. YOU. STOP.? >>>>>>>> and a flood bot you use to automate your trolling. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stop projecting. >>>>>> >>>>>> You even posted videos and code tied to your flood bot. >>>>> >>>>> And you'll prove it real soon, too <eyeroll>. >>>> >>>> For crying out loud... >>> >>> I see no link, as expected, just more hot air, also as expected. >> >> See > > No, I still don't see any proof of this claim, like most of your claims. THIS TYPE CRAP. CAN. YOU. STOP.? -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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