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I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu.

Started byJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
First post2015-08-04 00:39 -0700
Last post2015-08-05 06:54 -0400
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  I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 00:39 -0700
    Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 05:55 -0700
    Start Killer (StartKiller.COM) removes Win10's Start Button. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 08:26 -0700
    Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-04 08:44 -0700
    Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 17:07 +0000
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 12:22 -0500
        You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 12:39 -0700
          Re: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 21:20 +0000
          Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 14:46 -0700
            Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-08-04 17:53 -0400
              Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 15:11 -0700
                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-08-04 18:57 -0400
                  Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:15 -0700
                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-04 21:00 -0400
                    Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 18:50 -0700
            Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-05 07:56 -0400
              "The Bachelor" (on the TV show) is a prissy bottom. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-05 10:45 -0700
            Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 14:06 +0000
              Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:13 -0400
                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 14:31 +0000
                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:06 -0400
                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 17:26 +0200
                      Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:29 -0400
                        Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 15:42 +0000
                          Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:00 -0400
                            Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 16:11 +0000
                              Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:37 -0400
                                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 18:51 +0200
                                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:59 -0400
                                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 19:04 +0200
                                      Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 17:48 +0000
                                        Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 20:07 +0200
                                          Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 18:09 +0000
                                            Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:26 -0400
                                              Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:30 +0000
                                                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-05 12:44 -0700
                                                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 15:50 -0400
                                                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-08-05 16:26 -0400
                                                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-08-05 16:38 -0400
                                                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-05 14:13 -0700
                                                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-05 15:47 -0700
                                        Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:23 -0700
                                        Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:28 -0500
                                          Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:33 +0000
                                            Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:40 -0500
                                              Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 15:55 -0400
                                                Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 20:28 +0000
                                                  Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:51 -0700
                                              Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 20:33 +0000
                                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-08-05 15:57 -0400
                                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 17:09 -0400
                      What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-05 11:17 -0700
                        Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:31 -0400
                          Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:45 +0000
                        Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:35 +0000
              Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:21 -0500
                Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 17:02 +0200
                  Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:26 -0400
          Show us your source code. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:29 -0700
        Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 01:38 -0400
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 13:46 -0400
      Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 11:31 -0700
        I'm watching you right now. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 14:19 -0700
          Ubuntu Spyware: What to do? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:41 -0700
        Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 15:21 -0700
          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 22:37 +0000
            I prefer no Jeff-Relf.Me! John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 04:02 -0700
          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-05 08:11 -0400
            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-05 10:10 -0700
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 11:58 -0700
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-04 14:34 -0500
        Indirectly, you (chrisv) see my posts. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 12:46 -0700
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-08-04 16:57 -0400
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 06:54 -0400

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#312259 — I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu.

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2015-08-04 00:39 -0700
SubjectI prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4{0.39A.Seattle.2015}>
I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu.

I never see the Start Screen (Metro), by the way.

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#312280

FromJohn Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 05:55 -0700
Message-ID<04d60178-fcaf-49d8-853d-9e5f355a4538@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#312259
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 3:39:59 AM UTC-4, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu.
> 
> I never see the Start Screen (Metro), by the way.


What a pultz that Jeff-Relf be.

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#312303 — Start Killer (StartKiller.COM) removes Win10's Start Button.

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2015-08-04 08:26 -0700
SubjectStart Killer (StartKiller.COM) removes Win10's Start Button.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4{8.26A.Seattle.2015}>
In reply to#312259
<PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A !important;'><big><big> 
> I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu.
> I never see the Start Screen (Metro), by the way.

Start Killer (StartKiller.COM) removes Win10's Start Button.

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#312308

Fromcc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 08:44 -0700
Message-ID<e28a8382-3809-44da-93f4-a12aea344a5f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#312259
On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 3:39:59 AM UTC-4, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu.
> 
> I never see the Start Screen (Metro), by the way.

Insane man likes insane things. News at 11.

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#312330

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-08-04 17:07 +0000
Message-ID<pan.2015.08.04.17.07.08@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#312259
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 00:39:58 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

> I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu.
> 

The Start Menu was specifically created by Microsoft, at great expense,
to accommodate mental retards.

This is an undeniable historic fact.  Microsoft commissioned psychological
experts ($$$) to observe the behavior of test subjects representing the common
user, i.e. retards.  After intensive study the conclusion was that a
"Start" button or menu was essential in allowing access for the common
user, i.e. retards.

So what's Jeffie, the retard, gonna do without his Start Menu?  He will,
like all retards, just sit there and stare at the empty screen with his
mouth hanging open while drooling all over his shirt.

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#312339

FromSam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-04 12:22 -0500
Message-ID<lYidnYNjYINuaV3InZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#312330
On 8/4/15 12:07 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> The Start Menu was specifically created by Microsoft, at great expense,
> to accommodate mental retards.

   Is that so...


-- 

sci.physics is an unmoderated newsgroup dedicated
to the discussion of physics, news from the physics
community, and physics-related social issues.

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#312371 — You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it.

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2015-08-04 12:39 -0700
SubjectYou don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4{0.39P.Seattle.2015}>
In reply to#312339
gilber34 wrote:
> Microsoft is composed of 3rd world mental retards 
> doing contract work, everyone has known that for years.
> 
> There are vast areas of code in Win8 and Win10 
> that no one knows how it works, because the turnover rate 
> of Microsoft software people is in the 60% to 75% range.

I doubt that _all_ managers/programmers are shit.

You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it;
in fact, they often do so. Case in point:

  My C# macros, to automate Visual Studio 2015:

  Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM

  Yes, I had to rewrite my VS_2010 macros;
  but it's nice to have them in C# now,
  instead of "Visual Basic for Applications".

  Also, now I can write extensions too.
  Overall, it's been a wonderful improvement.

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#312396 — Re: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it.

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-08-04 21:20 +0000
SubjectRe: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it.
Message-ID<pan.2015.08.04.21.20.55@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#312371
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 12:39:04 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

> 
>   My C# macros, to automate Visual Studio 2015:
> 
>   Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM
> 

No one cares about your VS macros.  This is a *physics* group.

So how do you use your Windows machine in support of physics?
What kind of scientific plotting/graphics software do you have
installed?  What kind of computer algebra and/or numerical
simulation packages do you employ?

Tell us about using Microsoft Windows for physics.

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#312404 — Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2015-08-04 14:46 -0700
SubjectTrite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4{2.46P.Seattle.2015}>
In reply to#312371
gilber34 wrote:
> > I doubt that _all_ managers/programmers are shit.
> 
> it is not that they are shit,
> it is cost control for microsoft,
> coupled with having to work 50 hour weeks or more,
> a no life at home thing.
> 
> burn them out and don't give them much of a raise.

Programming is fun !  
There's _nothing_ that I'd rather be doing.

As for money, who cares ?

Once you have the necessities, 
-- and we _all_ do, thanks to the welfare state --
everything else is just trite hedonism.

Quite Trite.

I don't want a "roomate" or "wife", by the way;
especially not one that wants me to fund _her_ hedonism.

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#312409 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2015-08-04 17:53 -0400
SubjectRe: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<mprc6j$f72$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#312404
On 8/4/2015 5:46 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> gilber34 wrote:
>>> I doubt that _all_ managers/programmers are shit.
>>
>> it is not that they are shit,
>> it is cost control for microsoft,
>> coupled with having to work 50 hour weeks or more,
>> a no life at home thing.
>>
>> burn them out and don't give them much of a raise.
>
> Programming is fun !
> There's _nothing_ that I'd rather be doing.
>
> As for money, who cares ?
>
> Once you have the necessities,
> -- and we _all_ do, thanks to the welfare state --


President DFS would put a bullet in the head of all welfare recipients 
that scam society and refuse to work and pay their own way.

Who do I bill for your bullet, Relf?



> everything else is just trite hedonism.
>
> Quite Trite.
>
> I don't want a "roomate" or "wife", by the way;
> especially not one that wants me to fund _her_ hedonism.


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#312412 — Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2015-08-04 15:11 -0700
SubjectTrite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4{3.11P.Seattle.2015}>
In reply to#312409
You (DFS) told me:
> President DFS would put a bullet in the head of 
> all welfare recipients that scam society 
> and refuse to work and pay their own way.
> 
> Who do I bill for your bullet, Relf?

You're _not_ the president, nor will you ever be.
You hate "niggers" (your word, not mine); it's extreme.

I don't get welfare, I don't need it.
I've told you this, a hundred times,
but you refuse to believe it.

Socialism, working for the common good, is good;
so good, in fact, that _all_ rich nations do it.
The richer the nation (e.g. Norway), the more they do it.

After that, it's capitalism, to wit:

  Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite.

Think about it, DFS, you're a pig. 

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#312421 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2015-08-04 18:57 -0400
SubjectRe: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<mprfu6$vgq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#312412
On 8/4/2015 6:11 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> You (DFS) told me:
>> President DFS would put a bullet in the head of
>> all welfare recipients that scam society
>> and refuse to work and pay their own way.
>>
>> Who do I bill for your bullet, Relf?
>
> You're _not_ the president, nor will you ever be.
> You hate "niggers" (your word, not mine); it's extreme.

Other than to explain what 'nigger-rigged' means, I've never used that 
word on cola.

Speaking of hate, head on over to www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos and see 
what they think of Whites.

Example:
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhqs2gIyOB7S01z4Sc



> I don't get welfare, I don't need it.
> I've told you this, a hundred times,
> but you refuse to believe it.

I don't believe it because in Mar 2012 you said:

"I get food stamps ( $200 / month ) because my income is low, not 
because I'm "wacked⋅out".

Food stamps are welfare.



> Socialism, working for the common good, is good;
> so good, in fact, that _all_ rich nations do it.
> The richer the nation (e.g. Norway), the more they do it.
>
> After that, it's capitalism, to wit:
>
>    Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite.
>
> Think about it, DFS, you're a pig.

Not at all - I just live well.  The opposite of how you live: surrounded 
by other low-income wackjobs in a boarding house.

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#312435 — Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2015-08-04 17:15 -0700
SubjectTrite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4{5.15P.Seattle.2015}>
In reply to#312421
Replying to me, you (DFS) wrote:
> > I don't get welfare, I don't need it.
> > I've told you this, a hundred times,
> > but you refuse to believe it.
> 
> I don't believe it because in Mar 2012 you said:
> " I get food stamps ( $200 / month ) because my income is low, 
>   not because I'm "wacked⋅out ".
> 
> Food stamps are welfare.

Is today March 2012 ? !  I had no idea.

What a miserable fuckup you are.

> > You're _not_ the president, nor will you ever be.
> > You hate "niggers" (your word, not mine); it's extreme.
> 
> Other than to explain what 'nigger-rigged' means, 
> I've never used that word on cola.

I doubt that.
You called them "monkeys" and worse.
Please clarify: What do you think of them ? ?

> > Socialism, working for the common good, is good;
> > so good, in fact, that _all_ rich nations do it.
> > The richer the nation (e.g. Norway), the more they do it.
> >
> > After that, it's capitalism, to wit:
> >
> >    Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite.
> >
> > Think about it, DFS, you're a pig.
> 
> Not at all - I just live well.  
> The opposite of how you live: surrounded 
> by other low-income wackjobs in a boarding house.

I manage a _rooming_ house.

You're a thousand time more "wacked".

I'm happy; you're fucked, way fucked.

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#312443 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2015-08-04 21:00 -0400
SubjectRe: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<mprn4a$idm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#312421
"DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in message news:mprfu6$vgq$1@dont-email.me...
> On 8/4/2015 6:11 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:


Interesting thread - both of you.


>> You (DFS) told me:
>>> President DFS would put a bullet in the head of
>>> all welfare recipients that scam society
>>> and refuse to work and pay their own way.
>>>
>>> Who do I bill for your bullet, Relf?

There's some *serious* scamming going on out there which is the problem I 
have. If the govt is going to take money from my pocket and hand it to 
someone else then they should do a better job of not getting ripped off.


>> You're _not_ the president, nor will you ever be.
>> You hate "niggers" (your word, not mine); it's extreme.
>
> Other than to explain what 'nigger-rigged' means, I've never used that 
> word on cola.
>
> Speaking of hate, head on over to www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos and see 
> what they think of Whites.
>
> Example:
> http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhqs2gIyOB7S01z4Sc
>

I'm not a fan of hip-hop or the whole black ghetto/gang shit. Not a fan of 
white racism either.

There are always going to be people at the racial/political/religious end of 
the "bell curve". Most people in the middle 80% of the population can get 
along just fine with others.


>> I don't get welfare, I don't need it.
>> I've told you this, a hundred times,
>> but you refuse to believe it.
>
> I don't believe it because in Mar 2012 you said:
>
> "I get food stamps ( $200 / month ) because my income is low, not because 
> I'm "wacked?out".
>
> Food stamps are welfare.

Yes they are. But I'm not a fan of people starving in the streets either. 
Here in MA (probably elsewhere) they don't have "food stamps" because 
they're too degrading. They have "EBT" cards which are basically a state 
provided credit-card.

A recent state AG report found that there's lots of people with balances of 
$10's of thousands. EBT cards have been used at Disney World, Hawaii, cruise 
ships, casinos, strip clubs, etc. I'm pretty sure that's not what the 
program was meant for.


>> Socialism, working for the common good, is good;
>> so good, in fact, that _all_ rich nations do it.
>> The richer the nation (e.g. Norway), the more they do it.
>>
>> After that, it's capitalism, to wit:
>>
>>    Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite.
>>
>> Think about it, DFS, you're a pig.
>
> Not at all - I just live well.  The opposite of how you live: surrounded 
> by other low-income wackjobs in a boarding house.
>

RELF - you're a strange cat but I know that I'd enjoy having a beer with 
you. (I'll even buy.)  DFS, you're welcome to join anytime.

I have a few friends that most people would view as strange/weird/out-there. 
Usually I'm amazed that anyone could think like them but they're a lot of 
fun to hang out with.

-- 
This reminds me of a Relf classic.

    "Testing is how you know
     if the  code works or not,
     not compile-time warnings."
     -  Jeff Relf

Heh.  One doesn't need to be a pro, to know how stupid that is...


New thread from turdv displaying his ignorance
June 13, 2014
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#312451 — Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2015-08-04 18:50 -0700
SubjectTrite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.4{6.50P.Seattle.2015}>
In reply to#312443
You (Ezekiel) told me:
> RELF - you're a strange cat but I know 
> that I'd enjoy having a beer with you. 
> (I'll even buy.)  

No, I'm buying, anywhere you want to eat/drink,
anywhere you want to go (in Seattle).
Cruise Lake Washington and Elliot Bay, on me.

I'd let you stay with me for free too, for a few nights;
but you probably would _not_ like the cigarette smoke.

Sadly, I get too excited about _planned_ travel,
-- I wouldn't be able to sleep the night(s) before --
so I get motion sickness; it's _really_ bad.

But, were I well rested, 
and I had to be "there" (wherever you are) _right_now_,
I could hop on a plane and be there, no motion sickness.

> DFS, you're welcome to join anytime.

I too would welcome him, but I'd lecture him about 
the benefits of "collective efforts" (socialism)
the same way I lecture my antiCapitalist friends
on the benefits of capitalism.

I give proCapitalists lecture _a_lot_,
because I've so many antiCapitalist friends.

> I have a few friends that most people would view as strange/weird/out-there. 
> Usually I'm amazed that anyone could think like them 
> but they're a lot of fun to hang out with.

I'm friendly, but I dress like a slob,
I don't give a shit what people think of me;
I love to be alone, posting to Usenet, programming, etc.

> > > > President DFS would put a bullet in the head of
> > > > all welfare recipients that scam society
> > > > and refuse to work and pay their own way.
> > > >
> > > > Who do I bill for your bullet, Relf?
> 
> There's some *serious* scamming going on out there which is the problem I 
> have. If the govt is going to take money from my pocket and hand it to 
> someone else then they should do a better job of not getting ripped off.

Your tax money supports winos, heroin addicts and the like.
But don't forget: Rich Capitalists, like you, are hedonists too.

Back when I had food stamps, I had just $25/month, after paying rent.
I was very happy then; I even had a puppy and a cute, 
90lb, 18 year old, former gymnist girl living with me.  

I had to get rid of her because people assumed the worst.

> There are always going to be people at the racial/political/religious 
> end of the "bell curve". Most people in the middle 80% of the population
> can get along just fine with others.

DFS is _not_ one of those, I assure you;
but that's his disaster, not mine.

> EBT cards have been used at Disney World, Hawaii, cruise 
> ships, casinos, strip clubs, etc. 
> I'm pretty sure that's not what the program was meant for.

And for heroin, beer, etc.

I told my musician, heroin addict friend: <<

  The _only_ difference between Jerry Garcia and a wino:

    Money.  >>

He replied: <<

  And an abundance of realized musical and creative talent.  >>

I replied:

  Sure, that's how he got his money, $2.9 million a year.
  He worked hard to pay _attorneys_ and spousal/child support;
  to wit:

Quoting:
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Accountant-Jerry-Garcia-overpaid-his-ex-wife-3109053.php
December 20, 1996

  An accountant for Jerry Garcia's estate is expected 
  to testify Friday that Carolyn "Mountain Girl" Garcia 
  was entitled only to a $1 million divorce settlement 
  - not the $5 million cash the Grateful Dead guitarist 
  agreed to give her.

  Both sides in the acrimonious dispute over the estate 
  continued to trade accusations Thursday in Marin 
  Superior Court during the second week of the trial.

  Carolyn Garcia, the second wife of the famous rock 
  musician and mother of two of his daughters, is 
  seeking to get her $5 million agreement reinstated. 
  After Jerry Garcia died of a heart attack in August 
  1995 at a drug rehabilitation center, his third wife, 
  Deborah Koons Garcia, cut off all payments to Carolyn Garcia.

  "The real issue of this case is that no one ever told 
  Jerry Garcia there was a difference between community 
  and separate property," said Richard Schiller, a 
  forensic accountant who has been delving into Jerry 
  Garcia's finances for the last three months. "Nobody 
  was properly advising him of the fundamentals of 
  family law."

  Schiller, who was scheduled to be called Thursday as 
  a witness for the estate but will be called Friday 
  instead, discussed his views outside court.

  The San Francisco accountant, who also has 
  represented musician Sammy Hagar, said Carolyn and 
  Jerry Garcia's estate was worth $2 million when they 
  separated in December 1990. He said this means she 
  would have been entitled to $1 million, plus spousal 
  and child support.

  Carolyn Garcia's attorney, David Phillips, has said 
  Jerry Garcia asked Carolyn Garcia to draft an 
  agreement to settle their affairs because he was 
  frustrated by the slow progress being made by their 
  divorce lawyers.

  Other highlights of Thursday's hearing in which Jerry 
  Garcia's longtime attorney, David Hellman, took the stand:

  -- It was revealed that Deborah Koons Garcia sought to 
     remove Hellman as co-executor of the estate.

     She alleged that Hellman had not advised her late 
     husband that he was entitled to tax benefits on 
     $300,000 in child support payments, which ultimately 
     cost him $450,000. She later withdrew her petition to 
     remove Hellman after a document was discovered in the 
     files of _another_ of Garcia's attorneys, showing that 
     Garcia agreed to file joint income tax returns and 
     pay the taxes.

  -- Hellman testified that shortly after Jerry Garcia's 
     marriage to Deborah Koons Garcia, she asked Jerry 
     Garcia to pay for a $1 million remodeling job on her 
     house. Hellman testified Jerry Garcia didn't have the 
     money so the remodeling work was never done.

  -- Hellman testified that Jerry Garcia's income between 
     1990 and 1993 grew from $1.6 million a year 
     to $2.9 million a year.

  -- Deborah Koons Garcia said outside court that Jerry 
     Garcia's estate is worth $6 million to $7 million. 
______________________________________

Like Jerry, "PewDiePie" has 39 million YouTube subscribers,
millions more than anyone else.

He made $7.5 million last year; I bet he makes 9 million this year.
http://bgr.com/2015/07/06/how-much-money-does-pewdiepie-make/

What does he do ?  He posts videos of himself, playing video games.

Is he a bum, or what ? !  Jerry too.

Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite.

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#312479 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

From"A.M" <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-08-05 07:56 -0400
SubjectRe: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<mpstj2$6ul$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#312404
On 2015-08-04 5:46 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> gilber34 wrote:
>>> I doubt that _all_ managers/programmers are shit.
>>
>> it is not that they are shit,
>> it is cost control for microsoft,
>> coupled with having to work 50 hour weeks or more,
>> a no life at home thing.
>>
>> burn them out and don't give them much of a raise.
> 
> Programming is fun !  
> There's _nothing_ that I'd rather be doing.
> 
> As for money, who cares ?
> 
> Once you have the necessities, 
> -- and we _all_ do, thanks to the welfare state --
> everything else is just trite hedonism.
> 
> Quite Trite.
> 
> I don't want a "roomate" or "wife", by the way;
> especially not one that wants me to fund _her_ hedonism.

You're not married, Jeff? I'm shocked! I would have seen you as the next
Bachelor.


-- 
A.M

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#312584 — "The Bachelor" (on the TV show) is a prissy bottom.

FromJeff-Relf.Me <@.>
Date2015-08-05 10:45 -0700
Subject"The Bachelor" (on the TV show) is a prissy bottom.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.5{10.45A.Seattle.2015}>
In reply to#312479
Replying to me, you (A_M) wrote:
> > I don't want a "roomate" or "wife", by the way;
> > especially not one that wants me to fund _her_ hedonism.
> 
> You're not married, Jeff? I'm shocked! 
> I would have seen you as the next Bachelor.

"The Bachelor" (on the TV show) is a prissy bottom.
UrbanDictionary.COM/define.php?term=bottom

More marriages would happen if "his women" were dikes.

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#312512 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-08-05 14:06 +0000
SubjectRe: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<pan.2015.08.05.14.06.13@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#312404
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 14:46:31 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

> 
> Programming is fun !  
> There's _nothing_ that I'd rather be doing.
> 

LOL!  You are not programming.  You only think that you are programming.

Although you have not given any details, in all likelihood this "programming"
that you mention involves coding in Microsoft C#/.NET.

Coding in C#, or any other object oriented language, is *not* programming.
It is only arranging predetermined classes like a child will arrange 
toy blocks.

Real programming involves a low-level language such as C or even assembly
language to create complex digital structures based on fundamental elements
that address some problem.  That's not what takes place when employing C#.

Real programming involves an actual insight into and an understanding of
digital principles.  That's not what takes place when employing C#.

You are fooling yourself.  Using C# for "programming" is analogous to using
a paint-by-numbers kit to produce "art."

Real men use C or assembly.

Pussies use C#.

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#312516 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2015-08-05 10:13 -0400
SubjectRe: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<mpt5ii$8vp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#312512
"Fabian Russell" <root@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message 
news:pan.2015.08.05.14.06.13@localhost.localdomain...
> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 14:46:31 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>
>>
>> Programming is fun !
>> There's _nothing_ that I'd rather be doing.
>>
>
> LOL!  You are not programming.  You only think that you are programming.
>
> Although you have not given any details, in all likelihood this 
> "programming"
> that you mention involves coding in Microsoft C#/.NET.
>
> Coding in C#, or any other object oriented language, is *not* programming.
> It is only arranging predetermined classes like a child will arrange
> toy blocks.
>
> Real programming involves a low-level language such as C or even assembly
> language to create complex digital structures based on fundamental 
> elements
> that address some problem.  That's not what takes place when employing C#.
>
> Real programming involves an actual insight into and an understanding of
> digital principles.  That's not what takes place when employing C#.
>
> You are fooling yourself.  Using C# for "programming" is analogous to 
> using
> a paint-by-numbers kit to produce "art."
>
> Real men use C or assembly.
>
> Pussies use C#.
>

Idiot. Plain and simple.


> "Coding in C#, or any other object oriented language, is *not* 
> programming."

Yet programmers who would wipe the floor with a dimwit like you manage to do 
"real programming" with object oriented languages every day.

-- 
"Another one who seems to think an MD5 sum is an MD5 hash"

Chris Ahlstrom - trying hard to be technical when in reality he once again 
has no clue what he's talking about.
Message-ID: <ku2h12$lr3$1@dont-email.me>
9 Aug 2013





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#312521 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

FromFabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
Date2015-08-05 14:31 +0000
SubjectRe: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Message-ID<pan.2015.08.05.14.31.36@localhost.localdomain>
In reply to#312516
On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 10:13:07 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:

> 
> Yet programmers who would wipe the floor with a dimwit like you manage to do 
> "real programming" with object oriented languages every day.
>

That's because real programmers wrote the classes that are then
blindly utilized by the pseudo-programming C# crowd.

If a C# coder had to write his own classes ... forget about it.

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