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Linux/FOSS: where 459 MB = 481 MB

Started byDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
First post2014-04-27 22:25 -0400
Last post2014-04-28 08:53 -0400
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  Linux/FOSS: where 459 MB = 481 MB DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-27 22:25 -0400
    Re: Linux/FOSS: where 459 MB = 481 MB Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-27 20:39 -0700
    Re: Linux/FOSS: where 459 MB = 481 MB Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2014-04-28 12:04 +0200
      Linux/FOSS: where 459 MiB = 481 MB Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-28 06:35 -0400
        Re: Linux/FOSS: where 459 MiB = 481 MB Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2014-04-28 12:49 +0200
          Re: Linux/FOSS: where 459 MiB = 481 MB chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-28 07:50 -0500
        Re: Linux/FOSS: where 459 MiB = 481 MB DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-28 08:41 -0400
          Re: Linux/FOSS: where 459 MiB = 481 MB Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-28 15:55 +0200
      Linux/FOSS: where 459 MiB = 481 MB Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-04-28 06:36 -0400
      Re: Linux/FOSS: where 459 MB = 481 MB DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-28 08:19 -0400
    Re: Linux/FOSS: where 459 MB = 481 MB Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-28 08:53 -0400

#240572 — Linux/FOSS: where 459 MB = 481 MB

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2014-04-27 22:25 -0400
SubjectLinux/FOSS: where 459 MB = 481 MB
Message-ID<ljke7n$rdo$1@dont-email.me>
http://bayimg.com/CaNnBAAFN

window in foreground is Thunar.  1st file in list is being downloaded 
via Chromium.

Chromium reports 459 MB downloaded, but Thunar shows 481 MB.


MS is doomed.

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#240577

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2014-04-27 20:39 -0700
Message-ID<CF831B7B.35DEE%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#240572
On 4/27/14, 7:25 PM, in article ljke7n$rdo$1@dont-email.me, "DFS"
<nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

> http://bayimg.com/CaNnBAAFN
> 
> window in foreground is Thunar.  1st file in list is being downloaded
> via Chromium.
> 
> Chromium reports 459 MB downloaded, but Thunar shows 481 MB.
> 
> 
> MS is doomed.

Another good catch... thank you.


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#240587

FromIan Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org>
Date2014-04-28 12:04 +0200
Message-ID<bs6ndpFqis2U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#240572
On 28/04/14 04:25, DFS wrote:
> http://bayimg.com/CaNnBAAFN
>
> window in foreground is Thunar.  1st file in list is being downloaded
> via Chromium.
>
> Chromium reports 459 MB downloaded, but Thunar shows 481 MB.
>
>
> MS is doomed.

MS is just bad at maths. A megabyte is defined as 2^20 bytes, whereas 
Microsoft calls a Megabyte 1,000,000 bytes. This is the reason for the 
difference between 459 MB and 481 MB.

Regards,
Ian

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#240589 — Linux/FOSS: where 459 MiB = 481 MB

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2014-04-28 06:35 -0400
SubjectLinux/FOSS: where 459 MiB = 481 MB
Message-ID<ljlat8$h7n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#240587
Ian Hilliard wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 28/04/14 04:25, DFS wrote:
>> http://bayimg.com/CaNnBAAFN
>>
>> window in foreground is Thunar.  1st file in list is being downloaded
>> via Chromium.
>>
>> Chromium reports 459 MB downloaded, but Thunar shows 481 MB.
>>
>> MS is doomed.
>
> MS is just bad at maths. A megabyte is defined as 2^20 bytes, whereas 
> Microsoft calls a Megabyte 1,000,000 bytes. This is the reason for the 
> difference between 459 MB and 481 MB.

Amazing, the stupid stuff Doofus whines about, isn't it?  Makes you wonder
if the clown knows the difference between a MB and a MiB.

Same for Google, by the way, since they probably labelled the number
incorrectly.  Verified with a calculator, 459 MiB is about 484 MB.

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#240592 — Re: Linux/FOSS: where 459 MiB = 481 MB

FromIan Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org>
Date2014-04-28 12:49 +0200
SubjectRe: Linux/FOSS: where 459 MiB = 481 MB
Message-ID<bs6q1sFr4ceU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#240589
On 28/04/14 12:35, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Ian Hilliard wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 28/04/14 04:25, DFS wrote:
>>> http://bayimg.com/CaNnBAAFN
>>>
>>> window in foreground is Thunar.  1st file in list is being downloaded
>>> via Chromium.
>>>
>>> Chromium reports 459 MB downloaded, but Thunar shows 481 MB.
>>>
>>> MS is doomed.
>>
>> MS is just bad at maths. A megabyte is defined as 2^20 bytes, whereas
>> Microsoft calls a Megabyte 1,000,000 bytes. This is the reason for the
>> difference between 459 MB and 481 MB.
>
> Amazing, the stupid stuff Doofus whines about, isn't it?  Makes you wonder
> if the clown knows the difference between a MB and a MiB.
>
> Same for Google, by the way, since they probably labelled the number
> incorrectly.  Verified with a calculator, 459 MiB is about 484 MB.
>

Actually, I worked backwards and 484 Million Bytes came to 458.71 MiB.

You are quite right. Initially the MB was defined as 2^20, but the SI 
(under some pressure from industry) decided to define it as 1,000,000 
bytes. It makes disks look bigger. This is why the term MiB was 
introduced to specify the original 2^20 value.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte

Regards,
Ian

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#240612 — Re: Linux/FOSS: where 459 MiB = 481 MB

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-04-28 07:50 -0500
SubjectRe: Linux/FOSS: where 459 MiB = 481 MB
Message-ID<rejsl9hp2ekvcrj8t4g2egegi8i490htp4@4ax.com>
In reply to#240592
Ian Hilliard wrote:

>Actually, I worked backwards and 484 Million Bytes came to 458.71 MiB.
>
>You are quite right. Initially the MB was defined as 2^20, but the SI 
>(under some pressure from industry) decided to define it as 1,000,000 
>bytes. It makes disks look bigger. This is why the term MiB was 
>introduced to specify the original 2^20 value.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte

I don't care what anyone says.  A MB is 2^20 bytes.    8)

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#240608 — Re: Linux/FOSS: where 459 MiB = 481 MB

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2014-04-28 08:41 -0400
SubjectRe: Linux/FOSS: where 459 MiB = 481 MB
Message-ID<ljli98$8rj$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#240589
On 04/28/2014 06:35 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Ian Hilliard wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 28/04/14 04:25, DFS wrote:
>>> http://bayimg.com/CaNnBAAFN
>>>
>>> window in foreground is Thunar.  1st file in list is being downloaded
>>> via Chromium.
>>>
>>> Chromium reports 459 MB downloaded, but Thunar shows 481 MB.
>>>
>>> MS is doomed.
>>
>> MS is just bad at maths. A megabyte is defined as 2^20 bytes, whereas
>> Microsoft calls a Megabyte 1,000,000 bytes. This is the reason for the
>> difference between 459 MB and 481 MB.
>
> Amazing, the stupid stuff Doofus whines about, isn't it?


Yes, it is stupid for 2 apps to report wildly differing MB sizes.




> Makes you wonder if the clown knows the difference between a MB and a MiB.


Why are you bringing MiB into this Linux/FOSS shitware fiasco, putz?

Chromium reports MB.  Thunar reports a different MB.

FOSS clearly wins... when the contest is 'Who can toss out the least 
tested hobbyware in existence?'




> Same for Google, by the way, since they probably labelled the number
> incorrectly.  Verified with a calculator, 459 MiB is about 484 MB.

Why the innumeracy?  484 MB isn't 481 MB.

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#240628 — Re: Linux/FOSS: where 459 MiB = 481 MB

FromHadron<hadronquark@gmail.com>
Date2014-04-28 15:55 +0200
SubjectRe: Linux/FOSS: where 459 MiB = 481 MB
Message-ID<87sioxpni7.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#240608
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> writes:

> On 04/28/2014 06:35 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Ian Hilliard wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 28/04/14 04:25, DFS wrote:
>>>> http://bayimg.com/CaNnBAAFN
>>>>
>>>> window in foreground is Thunar.  1st file in list is being downloaded
>>>> via Chromium.
>>>>
>>>> Chromium reports 459 MB downloaded, but Thunar shows 481 MB.
>>>>
>>>> MS is doomed.
>>>
>>> MS is just bad at maths. A megabyte is defined as 2^20 bytes, whereas
>>> Microsoft calls a Megabyte 1,000,000 bytes. This is the reason for the
>>> difference between 459 MB and 481 MB.
>>
>> Amazing, the stupid stuff Doofus whines about, isn't it?
>
> Yes, it is stupid for 2 apps to report wildly differing MB sizes.
>
>> Makes you wonder if the clown knows the difference between a MB and a MiB.
>
> Why are you bringing MiB into this Linux/FOSS shitware fiasco, putz?
>
> Chromium reports MB.  Thunar reports a different MB.
>
> FOSS clearly wins... when the contest is 'Who can toss out the least tested
> hobbyware in existence?'
>
>> Same for Google, by the way, since they probably labelled the number
>> incorrectly.  Verified with a calculator, 459 MiB is about 484 MB.
>
> Why the innumeracy?  484 MB isn't 481 MB.
>
>
>

Poor Creepy. He's such a wimp.

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#240590 — Linux/FOSS: where 459 MiB = 481 MB

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2014-04-28 06:36 -0400
SubjectLinux/FOSS: where 459 MiB = 481 MB
Message-ID<ljlavq$h7n$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#240587
Ian Hilliard wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 28/04/14 04:25, DFS wrote:
>> http://bayimg.com/CaNnBAAFN
>>
>> window in foreground is Thunar.  1st file in list is being downloaded
>> via Chromium.
>>
>> Chromium reports 459 MB downloaded, but Thunar shows 481 MB.
>>
>>
>> MS is doomed.
>
> MS is just bad at maths. A megabyte is defined as 2^20 bytes, whereas 
> Microsoft calls a Megabyte 1,000,000 bytes. This is the reason for the 
> difference between 459 MB and 481 MB.

You mean

> difference between 459 MiB and 481 MB.

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#240598

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2014-04-28 08:19 -0400
Message-ID<ljlh0k$ua3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#240587
On 04/28/2014 06:04 AM, Ian Hilliard wrote:
> On 28/04/14 04:25, DFS wrote:
>> http://bayimg.com/CaNnBAAFN
>>
>> window in foreground is Thunar.  1st file in list is being downloaded
>> via Chromium.
>>
>> Chromium reports 459 MB downloaded, but Thunar shows 481 MB.
>>
>>
>> MS is doomed.
>
> MS is just bad at maths. A megabyte is defined as 2^20 bytes, whereas
> Microsoft calls a Megabyte 1,000,000 bytes. This is the reason for the
> difference between 459 MB and 481 MB.
>
> Regards,
> Ian


This is all being done on Linux, using open source.

It's FOSS that can't handle the "maths".

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#240614

FromSilver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c>
Date2014-04-28 08:53 -0400
Message-ID<ljlj0b$ds5$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#240572
On 2014-04-27 10:25 PM, DFS wrote:
> http://bayimg.com/CaNnBAAFN
>
> window in foreground is Thunar.  1st file in list is being downloaded
> via Chromium.
>
> Chromium reports 459 MB downloaded, but Thunar shows 481 MB.
>
>
> MS is doomed.

I believe Windows actually does the same thing. In fact, I'm fairly sure 
that if I only downloaded 100MB of a 3GB file, Windows will already have 
allocated 3GB to the downloading file regardless of whether it's 
actually there or not.

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