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GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll

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  GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-11-29 10:42 -0800
    Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-29 11:17 -0800
      Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-11-29 21:40 +0000
        Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-12-02 19:37 -0500
          Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll % <%@%> - 2018-12-02 17:40 -0700
        Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 13:31 +0100
      Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-11-30 05:30 -0800
        Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-30 09:13 -0500
          Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 07:27 -0800
            Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-30 19:11 -0500
          Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-12-01 00:01 +0000
            Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-30 19:29 -0500
        Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 07:19 -0800
          Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-11-30 08:03 -0800
            Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 08:10 -0800
              Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-11-30 09:11 -0800
                Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-11-30 09:22 -0800
                  Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-11-30 23:59 +0000
                    Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-30 19:30 -0500
                    Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-01 10:36 -0800
                      Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-12-01 19:05 +0000
                        Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-01 11:14 -0800
    Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-30 19:40 -0500
      Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll flatfish+++ <none@marinatrench.org> - 2018-11-30 19:59 -0500
        Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-12-01 09:16 -0500
          Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-01 10:34 -0800
            Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-12-01 14:58 -0500
              Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-01 13:02 -0800
                Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-12-01 19:28 -0500
                  Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-12-02 13:49 +0000
                  Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-02 09:19 -0800
                    Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-12-02 19:37 -0500
                      Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 08:43 -0800
                        Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-12-03 23:41 +0000
                          Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 16:04 -0800
                            Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-12-04 00:53 +0000
                              Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll % <%@%> - 2018-12-03 18:04 -0700
                                Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-12-20 11:04 +0000
                              Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-03 19:26 -0800
                                Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-12-03 21:16 -0700
                                Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-12-04 13:15 +0000
                                  Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-04 06:47 -0800
                                    Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-12-04 15:53 +0000
                                      Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-04 08:12 -0800
                                        Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2018-12-04 11:12 -0500
                                      Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2018-12-04 11:13 -0500
                                        Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-04 08:35 -0800
                              Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2018-12-03 23:15 -0500
                        Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2018-12-04 09:10 -0500
                          Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-04 06:45 -0800
                            Re: GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-12-04 07:45 -0800

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#480105 — GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll

From	fr314159@gmail.com
Date	2018-11-29 10:42 -0800
Subject	GNU/Linux Music Challenge for the "Musician" Carroll
Message-ID	<cf11d269-448e-40a9-85ec-d8a8af60c552@googlegroups.com>

GNU/Linux music challenge to the "musician" Carroll

Posted to the Usenet group alt.binaries.multimedia.transformation
are two MIDI files of a microtonal composition by Oljare called
"Nine Days Later."  The composition uses a 29TET scale, i.e. 29-tone
equal temperament.

One MIDI file, which represents the actual music, is tuned with
pitch-bend commands.

The other MIDI file is untuned, using the default 12TET scale, and
it sounds like fucking shit.

Your job is to tune the untuned file using the wonderful GNU/Linux
tools.

The tuning can be accomplished by either directly modifying the MIDI
file or by tuning the MIDI synthesizer (software or hardware).

Note that the posting title of the untuned file is incorrect, but the
actual file names of the uploaded files are correct.

C'mon.  Get going.  What are you waiting for, Xmas?

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

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#480106

From	Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date	2018-11-29 11:17 -0800
Message-ID	<16cf600f-ca90-448c-b251-718c77ebfd2a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#480105

On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 11:42:34 AM UTC-7, fr31...@gmail.com wrote:
> GNU/Linux music challenge to the "musician" Carroll
> 
> Posted to the Usenet group alt.binaries.multimedia.transformation

If it's not possible with slrn via ES (eternal-september), that I know of, 
I no longer have a way to get binaries off usenet (not sure I even have 
access to that newsgroup with ES, I don't see it listed). 

> are two MIDI

Funny you should mention Midi, just now I was able to get a driver, that
actually still works under Mojave for an old MidiMan MidiSport 2x2 USB
interface (I think I've had this unit for ~15 years).

> files of a microtonal composition by Oljare called
> "Nine Days Later."  The composition uses a 29TET scale, i.e. 29-tone
> equal temperament.

Couldn't find these files on the 'net'. Is this the guy:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrRr2lAWmGs>

> One MIDI file, which represents the actual music, is tuned with
> pitch-bend commands.
> 
> The other MIDI file is untuned, using the default 12TET scale, and
> it sounds like fucking shit.
> 
> Your job is to tune the untuned file using the wonderful GNU/Linux
> tools.

I don't have these "wonderful" tools.

> The tuning can be accomplished by either directly modifying the MIDI
> file or by tuning the MIDI synthesizer (software or hardware).
> 
> Note that the posting title of the untuned file is incorrect, but the
> actual file names of the uploaded files are correct.
> 
> C'mon.  Get going.  What are you waiting for, Xmas?

Seems I'll have to forfeit this 'challenge' ;)

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#480146

From	"F. Russell" <fr@random.info>
Date	2018-11-29 21:40 +0000
Message-ID	<ptpmd302vcp@news2.newsguy.com>
In reply to	#480106

On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 11:17:52 -0800, Steve Carroll wrote:

> 
> Couldn't find these files on the 'net'. Is this the guy:
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrRr2lAWmGs>
> 

That is he.

What a stupid jerk!  The web is not centralized.  Then why are
all these idiots posting their stuff to that YouTube shit-site?

Everyone is supposed to get web space with their ISP account.
If not then they can purchase their own domain very cheaply.

Post your own stuff to your own domain and keep away from these
centralized entities.

Posting to YouTube should be considered a badge of incompetence
and idiocy.

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#480689

From	DFS <nospam@nospam.com>
Date	2018-12-02 19:37 -0500
Message-ID	<CU_MD.302192$6y.107826@fx09.iad>
In reply to	#480146

On 11/29/2018 4:40 PM, F. Russell wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 11:17:52 -0800, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
>>
>> Couldn't find these files on the 'net'. Is this the guy:
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrRr2lAWmGs>
>>
> 
> That is he.
> 
> What a stupid jerk!  The web is not centralized.  Then why are
> all these idiots posting their stuff to that YouTube shit-site?
> 
> Everyone is supposed to get web space with their ISP account.
> If not then they can purchase their own domain very cheaply.
> 
> Post your own stuff to your own domain and keep away from these
> centralized entities.
> 
> Posting to YouTube should be considered a badge of incompetence
> and idiocy.


More of that Feebish "Do as I say not as I do" idiocy.

Fact is, you've put a bunch of vids on YT.

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#480693

From	% <%@%>
Date	2018-12-02 17:40 -0700
Message-ID	<bpujit.3dt.19.17@news.alt.net>
In reply to	#480689

On 2018-12-02 5:37 p.m., DFS wrote:
> On 11/29/2018 4:40 PM, F. Russell wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 11:17:52 -0800, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Couldn't find these files on the 'net'. Is this the guy:
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrRr2lAWmGs>
>>>
>>
>> That is he.
>>
>> What a stupid jerk!  The web is not centralized.  Then why are
>> all these idiots posting their stuff to that YouTube shit-site?
>>
>> Everyone is supposed to get web space with their ISP account.
>> If not then they can purchase their own domain very cheaply.
>>
>> Post your own stuff to your own domain and keep away from these
>> centralized entities.
>>
>> Posting to YouTube should be considered a badge of incompetence
>> and idiocy.
> 
> 
> More of that Feebish "Do as I say not as I do" idiocy.
> 
> Fact is, you've put a bunch of vids on YT.

everybody youtube

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#480713

From	Hadron Quark <hadronquark@gmail.com>
Date	2018-12-03 13:31 +0100
Message-ID	<87sgzelrlc.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to	#480146

"F. Russell" <fr@random.info> writes:

> On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 11:17:52 -0800, Steve Carroll wrote:
>
>> 
>> Couldn't find these files on the 'net'. Is this the guy:
>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrRr2lAWmGs>
>> 
>
> That is he.
>
> What a stupid jerk!  The web is not centralized.  Then why are
> all these idiots posting their stuff to that YouTube shit-site?
>
> Everyone is supposed to get web space with their ISP account.
> If not then they can purchase their own domain very cheaply.
>
> Post your own stuff to your own domain and keep away from these
> centralized entities.
>
> Posting to YouTube should be considered a badge of incompetence
> and idiocy.

LOL. You really are an idiot.

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#480275

From	fr314159@gmail.com
Date	2018-11-30 05:30 -0800
Message-ID	<f24b93cf-3077-45e8-940b-757dd3f1f78a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#480106

On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 2:17:56 PM UTC-5, Steve Carroll wrote:

>  
> I no longer have a way to get binaries off usenet
>

I posted both MIDI files as binary attachments to THIS group.

Yes. it is possible and if you have a normal Usenet client
they should appear as attachments.

However, the mighty Google software has rejected both posts.
That's just another symptom of the trash that is Google Groups.

Of course, I FLATLY REFUSE to post to a web site.  I will not
waste my time with enabling cookies and other hoop jumping just
to upload a simple file.

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#480276

From	DFS <nospam@nospam.com>
Date	2018-11-30 09:13 -0500
Message-ID	<oAbMD.356701$SG2.304925@fx29.iad>
In reply to	#480275

On 11/30/2018 8:30 AM, fr314159@gmail.com wrote:

> Of course, I FLATLY REFUSE to post to a web site.


www.tinyupload.com

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#480281

From	Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date	2018-11-30 07:27 -0800
Message-ID	<9840b136-3031-41a5-950c-5c1d32b15c6f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#480276

On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 7:13:43 AM UTC-7, DFS wrote:
> On 11/30/2018 8:30 AM, fr314159@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > Of course, I FLATLY REFUSE to post to a web site.
> 
> 
> www.tinyupload.com

He can't figure out how to use it... apparently, he's too busy yanking the 
math out of music:

<http://www.huygens-fokker.org/docs/intervals.html>

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#480337

From	DFS <nospam@nospam.com>
Date	2018-11-30 19:11 -0500
Message-ID	<EkkMD.589984$oM2.73550@fx07.iad>
In reply to	#480281

On 11/30/2018 10:27 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 7:13:43 AM UTC-7, DFS wrote:
>> On 11/30/2018 8:30 AM, fr314159@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Of course, I FLATLY REFUSE to post to a web site.
>>
>>
>> www.tinyupload.com
> 
> He can't figure out how to use it... apparently, he's too busy yanking the
> math out of music:
> 
> <http://www.huygens-fokker.org/docs/intervals.html>


That's 474 intervals.

How easy is it for you to demonstrate the first ten, by recording 
something and uploading it?

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#480336

From	"F. Russell" <fr@random.info>
Date	2018-12-01 00:01 +0000
Message-ID	<ptsj0e1cv2@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to	#480276

On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 09:13:53 -0500, DFS wrote:

> 
> www.tinyupload.com
>

That site REQUIRES cookies, and I explicitly stated that I did
not want to enable/disable cookies just to post a file.

Idiot.


\

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#480338

From	DFS <nospam@nospam.com>
Date	2018-11-30 19:29 -0500
Message-ID	<FAkMD.737252$Ac3.155864@fx45.iad>
In reply to	#480336

On 11/30/2018 7:01 PM, F. Russell wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 09:13:53 -0500, DFS wrote:
> 
>>
>> www.tinyupload.com
>>
> 
> That site REQUIRES cookies, 


Liar.




> and I explicitly stated that I did
> not want to enable/disable cookies just to post a file.

Yet you did anyway.




> Idiot.

PEBKAC shithead.

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#480279

From	Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date	2018-11-30 07:19 -0800
Message-ID	<2efb838e-8a68-4c89-a1db-d9c74f2e5d87@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#480275

On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 6:30:45 AM UTC-7, fr31...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 2:17:56 PM UTC-5, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
> >  
> > I no longer have a way to get binaries off usenet
> >
> 
> I posted both MIDI files as binary attachments to THIS group.

In what thread?

> Yes. it is possible and if you have a normal Usenet client
> they should appear as attachments.

I looked with slrn, I don't see any. I'm into to hide and go seek 
even less than I'm into microtonal music.

> However, the mighty Google software has rejected both posts.
> That's just another symptom of the trash that is Google Groups.
> 
> Of course, I FLATLY REFUSE to post to a web site.  I will not
> waste my time with enabling cookies and other hoop jumping just
> to upload a simple file.

Said they guy who won't even tell me where he put the files. I'm
not a "musician" if I can't manipulate a midi file in your mind. Tell
me what's wrong with that (*really* goofy) version of reality ;)

In any event, there is some tuning facility in Logic:

<https://imgur.com/a/DpyCBSW>

<https://imgur.com/a/d4O6817>

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#480302

From	fr314159@gmail.com
Date	2018-11-30 08:03 -0800
Message-ID	<cfa08662-225c-426a-a7dd-5bb0ed6664f3@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#480279

On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 10:19:07 AM UTC-5, Steve Carroll wrote:

> 
> In what thread?
> 
> I looked with slrn, I don't see any.
>

In THIS thread.  Where else, peanut brain?

Your news server or something must be FUBAR because in Pan they
show up as plain as day -- as brilliant as the sun in July on a 
cloudless day in the northern hemisphere.

Ask someone to grab them and repost.

Although it is strongly against my principles, I may repost later.

Get REAL Usenet access and not some sham junk.

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#480304

From	Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date	2018-11-30 08:10 -0800
Message-ID	<af743ebf-8206-488e-9c1d-5a34f7bfcec7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#480302

On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 9:03:43 AM UTC-7, fr31...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 10:19:07 AM UTC-5, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
> > 
> > In what thread?
> > 
> > I looked with slrn, I don't see any.
> >
> 
> In THIS thread.  Where else, peanut brain?
> 
> Your news server or something must be FUBAR because in Pan they
> show up as plain as day

Or maybe ES blocks them (as I alluded to earlier).

 -- as brilliant as the sun in July on a 
> cloudless day in the northern hemisphere.
> 
> Ask someone to grab them and repost.
> 
> Although it is strongly against my principles, I may repost later.
> 
> Get REAL Usenet access and not some sham junk.

I consider slrn is to be "REAL" but I have no idea of its facility 
for dealing with attachments. I'll just have to muddle through 
life knowing you don't consider me to be a "REAL" musician ;)

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#480327

From	fr314159@gmail.com
Date	2018-11-30 09:11 -0800
Message-ID	<09f11514-f258-4482-b56c-637293d994a2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#480304

On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 11:10:56 AM UTC-5, Steve Carroll wrote:

> 
> Or maybe ES blocks them 
>

Then ES, like Google Groups, is a sham junk news server.

On Usenet, nothing is supposed to be blocked.

These MIDI files are only a few kilobytes in length.
If some psycho-jerk were to post a rambling manifesto
of gibberish that was the same length it would NOT be
blocked, but yet these MIDI files are blocked.

Stay away -- far away -- from ES and GG.

>
> I consider slrn is to be "REAL" but I have no idea of its facility 
> for dealing with attachments
>

Slrn can't handle Yenc encoding unless it is compiled correctly,
and that is something which you most likely have not done.

Jeeze!  You can't do anything!

I'll post again later, little baby.

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#480328

From	Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date	2018-11-30 09:22 -0800
Message-ID	<f27df838-9468-472c-86b0-d07f143fae0c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#480327

On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 10:11:23 AM UTC-7, fr31...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'll post again later, little baby.

Don't bother... I doubt I'll mess with those files that are 
'only for REAL musicians' ;)

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#480335

From	"F. Russell" <fr@random.info>
Date	2018-11-30 23:59 +0000
Message-ID	<ptsitf0cv2@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to	#480328

On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 09:22:18 -0800, Steve Carroll wrote:

> 
> Don't bother... I doubt I'll mess with those files
>

Whether you want them or not, here they are:

http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=02162979097550439442

http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=09453517451008419408

Oh, the things I do for the sake of wonderful GNU/Linux!

Stallman should give me a medal.

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#480339

From	DFS <nospam@nospam.com>
Date	2018-11-30 19:30 -0500
Message-ID	<iCkMD.737253$Ac3.431901@fx45.iad>
In reply to	#480335

On 11/30/2018 6:59 PM, F. Russell wrote:

> 
> Stallman should give me a medal.


He'd rather give you some tongue.  Or his ass after he's dead.

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#480458

From	Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date	2018-12-01 10:36 -0800
Message-ID	<ad36deb5-ed3e-451d-8ee2-8d3d75527d8a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#480335

On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 5:00:07 PM UTC-7, F. Russell wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 09:22:18 -0800, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Don't bother... I doubt I'll mess with those files
> >
> 
> Whether you want them or not, here they are:
> 
> http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=02162979097550439442

<https://imgur.com/a/2d3hWbu>

> http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=09453517451008419408

Chrome told me to stay away from this one. WTF you got in there, Feeb?

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