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| Started by | Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> |
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| First post | 2014-05-06 18:11 -0400 |
| Last post | 2014-05-07 10:16 -0700 |
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Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-06 18:11 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 17:06 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-06 20:39 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 17:44 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-06 21:27 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2014-05-07 04:21 +0200
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-06 21:00 -0600
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 08:55 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-07 15:37 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 12:42 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-07 14:22 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 13:07 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 18:16 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-08 00:21 +0200
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 15:28 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-08 00:38 +0200
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 16:07 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 16:58 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 20:26 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 17:55 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 20:23 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 17:56 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-08 10:42 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 07:51 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 17:06 +0200
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 08:20 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 10:39 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-08 09:57 -0600
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-08 17:18 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 09:20 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-08 18:53 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 07:32 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-09 09:17 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 15:28 +0200
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 09:32 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-08 08:54 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-08 08:03 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 07:56 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-08 09:59 -0600
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-08 11:57 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-08 11:14 -0600
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-08 11:57 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-08 12:07 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-08 12:15 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-08 12:48 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-08 19:28 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-08 21:04 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 07:33 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 13:38 +0200
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 07:41 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-09 10:42 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-09 17:25 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 12:47 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-09 17:54 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-09 12:56 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-09 18:00 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-09 13:20 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:24 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 11:23 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:18 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-12 14:00 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 11:29 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 17:54 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 13:14 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:19 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-10 00:29 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 16:39 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-10 09:46 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-10 09:09 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-10 23:10 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-10 15:25 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-10 16:11 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-10 20:06 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-12 13:53 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 21:24 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 13:12 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:20 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-10 00:43 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 16:48 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 16:56 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-10 09:49 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-10 09:07 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-12 13:54 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 08:51 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:17 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-09 12:55 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:06 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-12 14:02 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 20:20 +0200
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 11:30 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:34 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 10:44 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-08 18:03 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-08 17:08 -0600
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 19:38 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 11:37 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 07:50 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-08 11:53 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 15:27 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-07 09:35 -0600
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 13:00 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 10:19 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-07 11:37 -0600
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2014-05-07 17:25 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-07 15:16 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 10:16 -0700
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| From | GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 11:14 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <eP-dnUozAIXmJvbOnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@bresnan.com> |
| In reply to | #242601 |
On 5/8/2014 10:57 AM, Lloyd E Parsons wrote: > On 2014-05-08 15:59:49 +0000, GreyCloud said: > >> On 5/8/2014 7:03 AM, Lloyd E Parsons wrote: >>> On 2014-05-08 12:54:26 +0000, Silver Slimer said: >>> >>>> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>> >>>>> Silver Slimer wrote: >>>> >>>>>> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to >>>>>> begin >>>>>> with. >>>> >>>>> No. >>>>> The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies >>>> >>>>> BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs >>>> >>>> I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives >>>> altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now. What I think >>>> that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are >>>> using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage >>>> that. >>>> >>>> People DO prefer online media, but I don't believing that any one of >>>> those people will find the omission of an optical drive to be >>>> liberating. The way Apple removed not only the optical drives but also >>>> certain ports people came to rely on is ridiculous. Sure, most people >>>> won't need a VGA port but maybe on one occasions they'll be forced to >>>> connect to something which only works through VGA and they'd appreciate >>>> having it there... and they don't have the time to go out and buy the >>>> adapter. Maybe they DO buy all of their media from iTunes, but maybe >>>> they found a good deal for a CD or DVD they've been looking for all of >>>> their lives and would have appreciated to be able to rip it. >>>> >>>> Call me old school but I enjoy having a plethora of ports on my laptop >>>> to make sure that I'm equipped no matter what the situation is. >>> >>> I wasn't keen to the idea of doing away with the optical drive, so when >>> I bought my MacBook Pro, I got an external one. In the last 2 years >>> I've used it 3 times... >>> >>> Just sayin'!! :) >>> >> Is that a read/write optical drive? >> >> The ones I saw are read only. > > Yes. I've since given it to my son for his netbook so I don't remember > the brand, but it wasn't a major brand and it cost something less than > $40 as I remember. I haven't looked in a long time, but can't remember > seeing a read-only optical drive in lots of years. > That's good to know then. -- We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true -- Robert Wilensky, 1997
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| From | JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 11:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlmndru.9ta.jedi@nomad.mishnet> |
| In reply to | #242550 |
On 2014-05-08, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote: > On 2014-05-08 12:54:26 +0000, Silver Slimer said: > >> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >> >>> Silver Slimer wrote: >> [deletia] >> Call me old school but I enjoy having a plethora of ports on my laptop >> to make sure that I'm equipped no matter what the situation is. > > I wasn't keen to the idea of doing away with the optical drive, so when > I bought my MacBook Pro, I got an external one. In the last 2 years > I've used it 3 times... ...yes but how "elegant" or "sophisticated" is it when you do need it? Dealing with external devices on a platform like the Mac must be harsh when you're all so fixated on things like appearances. It probably doesn't help that USB optical drives need 2 powered USB ports. -- Linux: because everyone should get to drink the beer of their ||| choice and not merely be limited to pretensious imports or hard cider. / | \
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| From | Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 12:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <bt1rtqF3qlcU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #242604 |
On 2014-05-08 16:57:34 +0000, JEDIDIAH said: > On 2014-05-08, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote: >> On 2014-05-08 12:54:26 +0000, Silver Slimer said: >> >>> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>> >>>> Silver Slimer wrote: >>> > [deletia] >>> Call me old school but I enjoy having a plethora of ports on my laptop >>> to make sure that I'm equipped no matter what the situation is. >> >> I wasn't keen to the idea of doing away with the optical drive, so when >> I bought my MacBook Pro, I got an external one. In the last 2 years >> I've used it 3 times... > > ...yes but how "elegant" or "sophisticated" is it when you do need it? > > Dealing with external devices on a platform like the Mac must be harsh > when you're all so fixated on things like appearances. > > It probably doesn't help that USB optical drives need 2 powered USB ports. How elegant or sophisticated does it have to be the 3 times I used it? :) Actually it is just as good as doing it any other way. -- Lloyd
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| From | JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 12:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlmneub.d2d.jedi@nomad.mishnet> |
| In reply to | #242605 |
On 2014-05-08, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
> On 2014-05-08 16:57:34 +0000, JEDIDIAH said:
>
>> On 2014-05-08, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote:
>>> On 2014-05-08 12:54:26 +0000, Silver Slimer said:
>>>
>>>> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Silver Slimer wrote:
>>>>
>> [deletia]
>>>> Call me old school but I enjoy having a plethora of ports on my laptop
>>>> to make sure that I'm equipped no matter what the situation is.
>>>
>>> I wasn't keen to the idea of doing away with the optical drive, so when
>>> I bought my MacBook Pro, I got an external one. In the last 2 years
>>> I've used it 3 times...
>>
>> ...yes but how "elegant" or "sophisticated" is it when you do need it?
>>
>> Dealing with external devices on a platform like the Mac must be harsh
>> when you're all so fixated on things like appearances.
>>
>> It probably doesn't help that USB optical drives need 2 powered USB ports.
>
> How elegant or sophisticated does it have to be the 3 times I used it? :)
>
> Actually it is just as good as doing it any other way.
>
It's nice how the fanboys suddenly ignore the niceties when the shoe is on the other foot.
Suddenly all manner of strange and awkward HACKS become perfectly acceptable.
--
Linux: because everyone should get to drink the beer of their |||
choice and not merely be limited to pretensious imports or hard cider. / | \
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| From | Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 12:48 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <bt1uajF4be9U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #242613 |
On 2014-05-08 17:15:55 +0000, JEDIDIAH said: > On 2014-05-08, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote: >> On 2014-05-08 16:57:34 +0000, JEDIDIAH said: >> >>> On 2014-05-08, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote: >>>> On 2014-05-08 12:54:26 +0000, Silver Slimer said: >>>> >>>>> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Silver Slimer wrote: >>>>> >>> [deletia] >>>>> Call me old school but I enjoy having a plethora of ports on my laptop >>>>> to make sure that I'm equipped no matter what the situation is. >>>> >>>> I wasn't keen to the idea of doing away with the optical drive, so when >>>> I bought my MacBook Pro, I got an external one. In the last 2 years >>>> I've used it 3 times... >>> >>> ...yes but how "elegant" or "sophisticated" is it when you do need it? >>> >>> Dealing with external devices on a platform like the Mac must be harsh >>> when you're all so fixated on things like appearances. >>> >>> It probably doesn't help that USB optical drives need 2 powered USB ports. >> >> How elegant or sophisticated does it have to be the 3 times I used it? :) >> >> Actually it is just as good as doing it any other way. >> > > It's nice how the fanboys suddenly ignore the niceties when the > shoe is on the other foot. > > Suddenly all manner of strange and awkward HACKS become perfectly > acceptable. Nope, it just doesn't matter when you never, or nearly never, need to have an optical drive. Hell I have a USB floppy that I use more often because my Lowrey Organ saves songs and registrations to floppy. -- Lloyd
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| From | JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 19:28 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlmo89s.q51.jedi@nomad.mishnet> |
| In reply to | #242617 |
On 2014-05-08, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote: > On 2014-05-08 17:15:55 +0000, JEDIDIAH said: > >> On 2014-05-08, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote: >>> On 2014-05-08 16:57:34 +0000, JEDIDIAH said: >>> >>>> On 2014-05-08, Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> wrote: >>>>> On 2014-05-08 12:54:26 +0000, Silver Slimer said: >>>>> >>>>>> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Silver Slimer wrote: >>>>>> >>>> [deletia] >>>>>> Call me old school but I enjoy having a plethora of ports on my laptop >>>>>> to make sure that I'm equipped no matter what the situation is. >>>>> >>>>> I wasn't keen to the idea of doing away with the optical drive, so when >>>>> I bought my MacBook Pro, I got an external one. In the last 2 years >>>>> I've used it 3 times... >>>> >>>> ...yes but how "elegant" or "sophisticated" is it when you do need it? >>>> >>>> Dealing with external devices on a platform like the Mac must be harsh >>>> when you're all so fixated on things like appearances. >>>> >>>> It probably doesn't help that USB optical drives need 2 powered USB ports. >>> >>> How elegant or sophisticated does it have to be the 3 times I used it? :) >>> >>> Actually it is just as good as doing it any other way. >>> >> >> It's nice how the fanboys suddenly ignore the niceties when the >> shoe is on the other foot. >> >> Suddenly all manner of strange and awkward HACKS become perfectly >> acceptable. > > Nope, it just doesn't matter when you never, or nearly never, need to > have an optical drive. Hell I have a USB floppy that I use more often > because my Lowrey Organ saves songs and registrations to floppy. > ...like I said: awkward and inelegant crap is fine so long as it's something that you're forced to do because of the choices of Apple Corp. -- Linux: because everyone should get to drink the beer of their ||| choice and not merely be limited to pretensious imports or hard cider. / | \
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 21:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lkh9iu$ou0$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #242617 |
Lloyd E Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > Nope, it just doesn't matter when you never, or nearly never, need to > have an optical drive. Hell I have a USB floppy that I use more often > because my Lowrey Organ saves songs and registrations to floppy. Well, tulips on an organ beats flowers on the piano. It'll take care of that floppy problem as well. -- Endless the world's turn, endless the sun's spinning Endless the quest; I turn again, back to my own beginning, And here, find rest.
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| From | flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-09 07:33 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1ngp0cz1xok4h.1dt704s4ia95v.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #242683 |
On Thu, 8 May 2014 21:04:30 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > Lloyd E Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > >> Nope, it just doesn't matter when you never, or nearly never, need to >> have an optical drive. Hell I have a USB floppy that I use more often >> because my Lowrey Organ saves songs and registrations to floppy. > > Well, tulips on an organ beats flowers on the piano. It'll take care of > that floppy problem as well. Grow up already Chris Ahlstrom. Do you tell fart jokes too?
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| From | Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-09 13:38 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <87mwer41wu.fsf@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #242717 |
flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> writes: > On Thu, 8 May 2014 21:04:30 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >> Lloyd E Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >> >>> Nope, it just doesn't matter when you never, or nearly never, need to >>> have an optical drive. Hell I have a USB floppy that I use more often >>> because my Lowrey Organ saves songs and registrations to floppy. >> >> Well, tulips on an organ beats flowers on the piano. It'll take care of >> that floppy problem as well. > > Grow up already Chris Ahlstrom. > Do you tell fart jokes too? Err, he does. He really is a weenie. -- "I have a BSEE.... Negative feedback has many benefits, but "maintaining stability" is not one of them. Just the opposite, in fact." The turdv/chrisv idiot and his pretend BSEE degree. PLEASE VISIT OUR HALL OF LINUX IDIOTS http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
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| From | flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-09 07:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <16bi0cbhz1jse$.1uz9h8mt83m5s.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #242724 |
On Fri, 09 May 2014 13:38:57 +0200, Hadron wrote: > flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> writes: > >> On Thu, 8 May 2014 21:04:30 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >> >>> Lloyd E Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >>> >>>> Nope, it just doesn't matter when you never, or nearly never, need to >>>> have an optical drive. Hell I have a USB floppy that I use more often >>>> because my Lowrey Organ saves songs and registrations to floppy. >>> >>> Well, tulips on an organ beats flowers on the piano. It'll take care of >>> that floppy problem as well. >> >> Grow up already Chris Ahlstrom. >> Do you tell fart jokes too? > > Err, he does. He really is a weenie. I'll bet he has to sit at the kids table during family gatherings. On second thought........scratch that.....
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| From | JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> |
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| Date | 2014-05-09 10:42 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlmptr8.1jq.jedi@nomad.mishnet> |
| In reply to | #242683 |
On 2014-05-09, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> Lloyd E Parsons wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Nope, it just doesn't matter when you never, or nearly never, need to
>> have an optical drive. Hell I have a USB floppy that I use more often
>> because my Lowrey Organ saves songs and registrations to floppy.
>
> Well, tulips on an organ beats flowers on the piano. It'll take care of
> that floppy problem as well.
>
Apple has the problem of trying to live in some fantasyland that hasn't
quite arrived yet. It's funny because Apple users are mindless consumers that
have to be led around by the nose. They won't discover the next big thing on
their own or wonder what's been taking Microsoft or Apple so long to wise up.
The nice thing about the PC market is that you aren't held hostage to what
any one particular company thinks a computer should look like. I can buy a less
inelegant solution if I want.
--
When you don't want to be limited by the Apple Fanboy mentality, MKV is something
that you are likely to reach for. It's more powerful and flexible than either |||
Apple technology or an Apple user's imagination. / | \
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| From | White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2014-05-09 17:25 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <bt4dskFk839U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #242793 |
On 09/05/2014 16:42, JEDIDIAH wrote: > Apple has the problem of trying to live in some fantasyland that hasn't > quite arrived yet. It's funny because Apple users are mindless consumers that > have to be led around by the nose. They won't discover the next big thing on > their own or wonder what's been taking Microsoft or Apple so long to wise up. Although some Mac users are knowledgeable, a good number of them seem to go for Apple products because they are trendy. For me, a computer or a 'phone does not constitute a fashion item. > The nice thing about the PC market is that you aren't held hostage to what > any one particular company thinks a computer should look like. I can buy a less > inelegant solution if I want. One problem with Apple is that trying to make things easier sometimes backfires in unexpected ways. Their 'magic mouse' is one example; scrolling in four directions is very easy but performing a right-click does not always work and can be very frustrating when an action you didn't want is performed instead. Another problem is using the 'magic mouse' to shut down the computer; it is pretty much impossible to switch the mouse off afterwards without accidentally clicking it, which wakes the computer back up again. The obvious answer might be to close the laptop instead in order to put it to sleep but that functionality has broken since I updated my laptop to Mavericks. In fact, the sleep function is broken more generally with Mavericks on my Macbook (needed for work for DFS' information), often crashing the machine. If I made a list of bugs and problems with Mavericks, it would put Snit's largely contrived list of KDE bugs to shame.
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| From | flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-09 12:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <xk83bpgp73ee$.1mvda3p7xwqve$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #242797 |
On Fri, 09 May 2014 17:25:55 +0100, White Spirit wrote: > If I made a list of bugs and problems with Mavericks, it would put > Snit's largely contrived list of KDE bugs to shame. You are free to do that. You won't though. At least not with videos showing the bugs. You'll Google for other people's bugs and post a list.
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| From | White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2014-05-09 17:54 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <bt4filFkho5U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #242800 |
On 09/05/2014 17:47, flatfish+++ wrote: > On Fri, 09 May 2014 17:25:55 +0100, White Spirit wrote: >> If I made a list of bugs and problems with Mavericks, it would put >> Snit's largely contrived list of KDE bugs to shame. > You are free to do that. Thanks for letting me know; I had never known otherwise. > You won't though. > At least not with videos showing the bugs. Of course I won't; I'm not an obsessive crank like Snit is. On the other hand, since videos are so important to you, why don't you provide videos demonstrating every negative thing you've ever claimed about Linux? You won't, though... > You'll Google for other people's bugs and post a list. I won't do that either. Sorry to disappoint you.
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| From | Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> |
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| Date | 2014-05-09 12:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lkj1cp$flu$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #242801 |
On 14-05-09 12:54 PM, White Spirit wrote: > On 09/05/2014 17:47, flatfish+++ wrote: > >> On Fri, 09 May 2014 17:25:55 +0100, White Spirit wrote: > >>> If I made a list of bugs and problems with Mavericks, it would put >>> Snit's largely contrived list of KDE bugs to shame. > >> You are free to do that. > > Thanks for letting me know; I had never known otherwise. > >> You won't though. >> At least not with videos showing the bugs. > > Of course I won't; I'm not an obsessive crank like Snit is. > > On the other hand, since videos are so important to you, why don't you > provide videos demonstrating every negative thing you've ever claimed > about Linux? > > You won't, though... > >> You'll Google for other people's bugs and post a list. > > I won't do that either. Sorry to disappoint you. So you're essentially proving flatfish+++ right. -- Silver Slimer Wikipedia & OpenMedia Supporter
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| From | White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2014-05-09 18:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <bt4ftlFklopU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #242803 |
On 09/05/2014 17:56, Silver Slimer wrote: > On 14-05-09 12:54 PM, White Spirit wrote: >> On 09/05/2014 17:47, flatfish+++ wrote: >>> On Fri, 09 May 2014 17:25:55 +0100, White Spirit wrote: >>>> If I made a list of bugs and problems with Mavericks, it would put >>>> Snit's largely contrived list of KDE bugs to shame. >>> You are free to do that. >> Thanks for letting me know; I had never known otherwise. >>> You won't though. >>> At least not with videos showing the bugs. >> Of course I won't; I'm not an obsessive crank like Snit is. >> On the other hand, since videos are so important to you, why don't you >> provide videos demonstrating every negative thing you've ever claimed >> about Linux? >> You won't, though... >>> You'll Google for other people's bugs and post a list. >> I won't do that either. Sorry to disappoint you. > So you're essentially proving flatfish+++ right. I'm proving her to be a hypocrite, not that it takes much effort. I don't think that I have ever seen her substantiate any of her claims but it is no secret that Linux users are held to a completely different standard than the other fools who infest this group.
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| From | Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> |
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| Date | 2014-05-09 13:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lkj2ot$qq2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #242804 |
On 14-05-09 01:00 PM, White Spirit wrote: > On 09/05/2014 17:56, Silver Slimer wrote: > >> On 14-05-09 12:54 PM, White Spirit wrote: > >>> On 09/05/2014 17:47, flatfish+++ wrote: > >>>> On Fri, 09 May 2014 17:25:55 +0100, White Spirit wrote: > >>>>> If I made a list of bugs and problems with Mavericks, it would put >>>>> Snit's largely contrived list of KDE bugs to shame. > >>>> You are free to do that. > >>> Thanks for letting me know; I had never known otherwise. > >>>> You won't though. >>>> At least not with videos showing the bugs. > >>> Of course I won't; I'm not an obsessive crank like Snit is. > >>> On the other hand, since videos are so important to you, why don't you >>> provide videos demonstrating every negative thing you've ever claimed >>> about Linux? > >>> You won't, though... > >>>> You'll Google for other people's bugs and post a list. > >>> I won't do that either. Sorry to disappoint you. > >> So you're essentially proving flatfish+++ right. > > I'm proving her to be a hypocrite, not that it takes much effort. I > don't think that I have ever seen her substantiate any of her claims but > it is no secret that Linux users are held to a completely different > standard than the other fools who infest this group. Considering Usenet's current state, I think we've long past the stage at which the network can be used as a source of irrefutable information. People can and probably should prove whatever they say with evidence but it's mostly an exercise in futility. Just sharing our opinions, without necessarily providing evidence, might be exactly what's needed to make this network more interesting to newbies. -- Silver Slimer Wikipedia & OpenMedia Supporter
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-09 10:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <CF925D64.36E41%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #242809 |
On 5/9/14, 10:20 AM, in article lkj2ot$qq2$1@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer" <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote: >>>> I won't do that either. Sorry to disappoint you. >> >>> So you're essentially proving flatfish+++ right. >> >> I'm proving her to be a hypocrite, not that it takes much effort. I >> don't think that I have ever seen her substantiate any of her claims but >> it is no secret that Linux users are held to a completely different >> standard than the other fools who infest this group. > > Considering Usenet's current state, I think we've long past the stage at > which the network can be used as a source of irrefutable information. > People can and probably should prove whatever they say with evidence but > it's mostly an exercise in futility. Just sharing our opinions, without > necessarily providing evidence, might be exactly what's needed to make > this network more interesting to newbies. I often ask for people to back their claims with evidence and logic and reasoning... which is considered horrible and has many people screaming at me (including you). It is fascinating to me. -- * Mint MATE: Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint / LibreOffice: <http://youtu.be/USU9iqppfto> * Win 8 / Word 2013: <http://youtu.be/z8gUL2TCcV4> * Mavericks / Pages 5.1: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-09 11:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7c68c518-0f56-4745-84ff-f57b9b3e257f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #242810 |
On Friday, May 9, 2014 11:24:36 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote: (snip) > I often ask for people to back their claims with evidence and logic and > reasoning... which is considered horrible and has many people screaming at > me (including you). It is fascinating to me. Your purposeful mischaracterization of what actually happens aside, people have a problem with you ignoring concrete proof of things; for example: The proof you admitted you forged posting IDs (in my case, while simultaneously lying that I dared you to do it). The proof that you publicly posted up private email exchange without permission from the other party (despite you claiming that you had no wish for them to become public). The proof that you admitted to online sexual harassment. And many, many more... all of which you lie about despite concrete proof having being shown on numerous occasions. That you then expect people to believe all your BS has "expired" or some such (even though you're still doing it every day) is what makes you what everyone knows you are, a delusional, lying POS.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-09 10:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <CF925BF5.36E3D%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #242804 |
On 5/9/14, 10:00 AM, in article bt4ftlFklopU1@mid.individual.net, "White Spirit" <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> wrote: >>>> You won't though. >>>> At least not with videos showing the bugs. > >>> Of course I won't; I'm not an obsessive crank like Snit is. > >>> On the other hand, since videos are so important to you, why don't you >>> provide videos demonstrating every negative thing you've ever claimed >>> about Linux? > >>> You won't, though... > >>>> You'll Google for other people's bugs and post a list. > >>> I won't do that either. Sorry to disappoint you. > >> So you're essentially proving flatfish+++ right. > > I'm proving her to be a hypocrite, not that it takes much effort. I > don't think that I have ever seen her substantiate any of her claims but > it is no secret that Linux users are held to a completely different > standard than the other fools who infest this group. The bottom line here is you made a claim that you could show OS X being as bad as Linux. That is utter BS. You cannot do so, because OS X is simply not the festering pile a manure I show KDE to be. -- * Mint MATE: Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint / LibreOffice: <http://youtu.be/USU9iqppfto> * Win 8 / Word 2013: <http://youtu.be/z8gUL2TCcV4> * Mavericks / Pages 5.1: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
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