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Re: Marti van Lin: "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will be rock solid"

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First post2014-04-24 19:52 +0100
Last post2014-04-24 15:32 -0600
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  Re: Marti van Lin: "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will be rock solid" Lusotec <nomail@nomail.not> - 2014-04-24 19:52 +0100
    Re: Marti van Lin: "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will be rock solid" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-24 20:57 +0200
      Re: Marti van Lin: "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will be rock solid" Lusotec <nomail@nomail.not> - 2014-04-24 21:36 +0100
        Re: Marti van Lin: "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will be rock solid" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-04-24 22:52 +0200
          Re: Marti van Lin: "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will be rock solid" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-04-24 17:05 -0700
          Re: Marti van Lin: "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will be rock solid" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-25 06:48 -0500
            Re: Marti van Lin: "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will be rock solid" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-25 07:03 -0500
              Re: Marti van Lin: "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will be rock solid" DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-25 08:51 -0400
                Re: Marti van Lin: "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will be rock solid" 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-25 09:20 -0400
                  Re: Marti van Lin: "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will be rock solid" DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-25 11:13 -0400
                    Re: Marti van Lin: "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will be rock solid" 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-25 11:20 -0400
                    Re: Marti van Lin: "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will be rock solid" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-25 11:40 -0600
                      Re: Marti van Lin: "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will be rock solid" 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-25 14:21 -0400
                        Re: Marti van Lin: "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will be rock solid" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-25 12:57 -0600
                Is it hard to change xterm's font ?  Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2014-04-25 16:50 -0700
                  Re: Is it hard to change xterm's font ? Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-04-25 21:19 -0400
                  Re: Is it hard to change xterm's font ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-04-27 17:45 -0400
                    Re: Is it hard to change xterm's font ? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-04-28 15:53 +0200
                    Re: Is it hard to change xterm's font ? TomB <tommy.bongaerts@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 23:06 +0000
                      Re: Is it hard to change xterm's font ? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-01 19:55 -0400
                        Re: Is it hard to change xterm's font ? 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 07:46 -0400
                          Re: Is it hard to change xterm's font ? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 15:03 +0200
                            Re: Is it hard to change xterm's font ? 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 09:21 -0400
                            Re: Is it hard to change xterm's font ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 11:22 -0700
                        Re: Is it hard to change xterm's font ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-02 13:00 -0400
    Re: Marti van Lin: "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS will be rock solid" GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-04-24 15:32 -0600

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#241202 — Re: Is it hard to change xterm's font ?

From flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com>
Date2014-05-02 07:46 -0400
SubjectRe: Is it hard to change xterm's font ?
Message-ID<1xl0t1wxmfu7g.1fr6vy80rtrzh.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#241174
On Thu, 1 May 2014 19:55:00 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> TomB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
>> On 2014-04-27, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
> 
> He has a brain?  Get outa town!
> 
>>> On 04/25/2014 07:50 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>>> DFS,  Is it hard to change xterm's font ?
>>>
>>> Not hard - but to change it permanently you have to Google for the exact 
>>> string, then create or edit the ~/.Xresources file.
>>
>> % man xterm would do the trick too
> 
> Or ~/.Xdefaults.
> 
> It is no harder than editing the Registry.

Yea, but with Windows you don't have to edit the Registry to change
the fonts in a command prompt.

Nice self nuke Chris Ahlstrom.

-- 
flatfish+++

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#241219 — Re: Is it hard to change xterm's font ?

FromHadron<hadronquark@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-02 15:03 +0200
SubjectRe: Is it hard to change xterm's font ?
Message-ID<87ha585o4h.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#241202
flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> writes:

> On Thu, 1 May 2014 19:55:00 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> TomB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>> 
>>> On 2014-04-27, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>> 
>> He has a brain?  Get outa town!
>> 
>>>> On 04/25/2014 07:50 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>>>> DFS,  Is it hard to change xterm's font ?
>>>>
>>>> Not hard - but to change it permanently you have to Google for the exact 
>>>> string, then create or edit the ~/.Xresources file.
>>>
>>> % man xterm would do the trick too
>> 
>> Or ~/.Xdefaults.
>> 
>> It is no harder than editing the Registry.
>
> Yea, but with Windows you don't have to edit the Registry to change
> the fonts in a command prompt.
>
> Nice self nuke Chris Ahlstrom.

He really is a serious fucking idiot at times.

Plus he forgot the xrdb merge....

Then you have the issues with case and actually finding the documented x
resources an app uses.

eg
http://askubuntu.com/questions/389633/xrdb-merge-xresources-disables-gtk-anti-aliasing


-- 
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The turdv/chrisv idiot and his pretend BSEE degree.
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#241227 — Re: Is it hard to change xterm's font ?

From flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com>
Date2014-05-02 09:21 -0400
SubjectRe: Is it hard to change xterm's font ?
Message-ID<x2gpoiy71dek$.184gplxna258f.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#241219
On Fri, 02 May 2014 15:03:26 +0200, Hadron wrote:

> flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> writes:
> 
>> On Thu, 1 May 2014 19:55:00 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>> TomB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>> 
>>>> On 2014-04-27, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>>> 
>>> He has a brain?  Get outa town!
>>> 
>>>>> On 04/25/2014 07:50 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>>>>> DFS,  Is it hard to change xterm's font ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not hard - but to change it permanently you have to Google for the exact 
>>>>> string, then create or edit the ~/.Xresources file.
>>>>
>>>> % man xterm would do the trick too
>>> 
>>> Or ~/.Xdefaults.
>>> 
>>> It is no harder than editing the Registry.
>>
>> Yea, but with Windows you don't have to edit the Registry to change
>> the fonts in a command prompt.
>>
>> Nice self nuke Chris Ahlstrom.
> 
> He really is a serious fucking idiot at times.
> 
> Plus he forgot the xrdb merge....
> 
> Then you have the issues with case and actually finding the documented x
> resources an app uses.
> 
> eg
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/389633/xrdb-merge-xresources-disables-gtk-anti-aliasing

Average user doesn't stand a chance of finding that.

-- 
flatfish+++

163 Reasons not to deal with Michael "Snit" Glasser, the Prescott 
Computer Guy
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#241313 — Re: Is it hard to change xterm's font ?

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-02 11:22 -0700
SubjectRe: Is it hard to change xterm's font ?
Message-ID<63a39d1b-8fe1-4bbc-be3b-27fbc7a28c14@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#241219
On Friday, May 2, 2014 1:03:26 PM UTC, Hadron wrote:
> flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> 
> 
> > On Thu, 1 May 2014 19:55:00 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> >> TomB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
> >> 
> 
> >>> On 2014-04-27, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> He has a brain?  Get outa town!
> 
> >> 
> 
> >>>> On 04/25/2014 07:50 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> 
> >>>>> DFS,  Is it hard to change xterm's font ?
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>>> Not hard - but to change it permanently you have to Google for the exact 
> 
> >>>> string, then create or edit the ~/.Xresources file.
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>> % man xterm would do the trick too
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> Or ~/.Xdefaults.
> 
> >> 
> 
> >> It is no harder than editing the Registry.
> 
> >
> 
> > Yea, but with Windows you don't have to edit the Registry to change
> 
> > the fonts in a command prompt.
> 
> >
> 
> > Nice self nuke Chris Ahlstrom.
> 
> 
> 
> He really is a serious fucking idiot at times.
> 
> 
> 
> Plus he forgot the xrdb merge....
> 
> 
> 
> Then you have the issues with case and actually finding the documented x
> 
> resources an app uses.
> 
> 
> 
> eg
> 
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/389633/xrdb-merge-xresources-disables-gtk-anti-aliasing
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> "I have a BSEE.... Negative feedback has many benefits, but "maintaining stability" is not one of them. Just the opposite, in fact." 
> 
> The turdv/chrisv idiot and his pretend BSEE degree.
> 
> PLEASE VISIT OUR HALL OF LINUX IDIOTS
> 
> http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

Another thread ruined by Michael Glasser Prescott Computer guy of Prescott, Arizona.

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#241282 — Re: Is it hard to change xterm's font ?

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2014-05-02 13:00 -0400
SubjectRe: Is it hard to change xterm's font ?
Message-ID<lk0iuk$nb6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#241174
On 05/01/2014 07:55 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> TomB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2014-04-27, the following emerged from the brain of DFS:
>
> He has a brain?  Get outa town!
>
>>> On 04/25/2014 07:50 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>>>> DFS,  Is it hard to change xterm's font ?
>>>
>>> Not hard - but to change it permanently you have to Google for the exact
>>> string, then create or edit the ~/.Xresources file.
>>
>> % man xterm would do the trick too
>
> Or ~/.Xdefaults.
>
> It is no harder than editing the Registry.


It's probably easier, if you know where to find the file in the first 
place.  (figuring out where it is takes experience or Googling)

And the text file usually makes more sense, whereas many Windows 
Registry entries are unreadable.

In the real world, though, Registry editing for Windows config is 
extremely rare, whereas text file editing for Linux config is extremely 
common.




> Of course, you could also use terminals like Roxterm, Gnome-terminal, or
> XFce4-terminal, which have "GUIs" for configuration of the terminal.


xterm apparently has "GUI" menus and toolbars:


−tb
This option, corresponding to the toolBar resource, indicates that xterm 
should display a toolbar (or menubar) at the top of its window. The 
buttons in the toolbar correspond to the popup menus, e.g., 
control/left/mouse for “Main Options”.

+tb
This option indicates that xterm should not set up a toolbar.

http://invisible-island.net/xterm/manpage/xterm.html


but when you try

# xterm -tb
# xterm +tb

it throws errors: xterm: bad command line option "-tb"


======================================================================

[dfs@manjaro LearnCTheHardWay]# xterm -help
XTerm(303) usage:
     xterm [-options ...] [-e command args]

where options include:
     -/+132                       turn on/off 80/132 column switching
     -C                           intercept console messages
     -Sccn                        slave mode on "ttycc", file descriptor "n"
     -T string                    title name for window
     -/+ah                        turn on/off always highlight
     -/+ai                        turn off/on active icon
     -/+aw                        turn on/off auto wraparound
     -b number                    internal border in pixels
     -/+bc                        turn on/off text cursor blinking
     -bcf milliseconds            time text cursor is off when blinking
     -bcn milliseconds            time text cursor is on when blinking
     -bd color                    border color
     -/+bdc                       turn off/on display of bold as color
     -bg color                    background color
     -bw number                   border width in pixels
     -/+cb                        turn on/off cut-to-beginning-of-line 
inhibit
     -cc classrange               specify additional character classes
     -/+cjk_width                 turn on/off legacy CJK width convention
     -class string                class string (XTerm)
     -/+cm                        turn off/on ANSI color mode
     -/+cn                        turn on/off cut newline inhibit
     -cr color                    text cursor color
     -/+cu                        turn on/off curses emulation
     -/+dc                        turn off/on dynamic color selection
     -display displayname         X server to contact
     -e command args ...          command to execute
     -fa pattern                  FreeType font-selection pattern
     -fb fontname                 bold text font
     -/+fbb                       turn on/off normal/bold font 
comparison inhibit
     -/+fbx                       turn off/on linedrawing characters
     -fd pattern                  FreeType Doublesize font-selection pattern
     -fg color                    foreground color
     -fi fontname                 icon font for active icon
     -fn fontname                 normal text font
     -fs size                     FreeType font-size
     -/+fullscreen                turn on/off fullscreen on startup
     -fw fontname                 doublewidth text font
     -fwb fontname                doublewidth bold text font
     -fx fontname                 XIM fontset
     %geom                        Tek window geometry
     #geom                        icon window geometry
     -geometry geom               size (in characters) and position
     -help                        print out this message
     -/+hm                        turn on/off selection-color override
     -/+hold                      turn on/off logic that retains window 
after exit
     -iconic                      start iconic
     -/+ie                        turn on/off initialization of 'erase' 
from pty
     -/+im                        use insert mode for TERMCAP
     -into windowId               use the window id given to -into as 
the parent window rather than the default root window
     -/+j                         turn on/off jump scroll
     -/+k8                        turn on/off C1-printable classification
     -kt keyboardtype             set keyboard type: tcap sun vt220
     -/+l                         turn on/off logging
     -/+lc                        turn on/off locale mode using luit
     -lcc path                    filename of locale converter 
(/usr/bin/luit)
     -leftbar                     force scrollbar left
     -lf filename                 logging filename
     -/+ls                        turn on/off login shell
     -/+maximized                 turn on/off maxmize on startup
     -/+mb                        turn on/off margin bell
     -mc milliseconds             multiclick time in milliseconds
     -/+mesg                      forbid/allow messages
     -/+mk_width                  turn on/off simple width convention
     -ms color                    pointer color
     -n string                    icon name for window
     -name string                 client instance, icon, and title strings
     -nb number                   margin bell in characters from right end
     -/+nul                       turn off/on display of underlining
     -/+pc                        turn on/off PC-style bold colors
     -/+pob                       turn on/off pop on bell
     -report-colors               report colors as they are allocated
     -report-fonts                report fonts as loaded to stdout
     -rightbar                    force scrollbar right (default left)
     -/+rv                        turn on/off reverse video
     -/+rvc                       turn off/on display of reverse as color
     -/+rw                        turn on/off reverse wraparound
     -/+s                         turn on/off multiscroll
     -/+samename                  turn on/off the no-flicker option for 
title and icon name
     -/+sb                        turn on/off scrollbar
     -selbg color                 selection background color
     -selfg color                 selection foreground color
     -/+sf                        turn on/off Sun Function Key escape codes
     -/+si                        turn on/off scroll-on-tty-output inhibit
     -/+sk                        turn on/off scroll-on-keypress
     -sl number                   number of scrolled lines to save
     -/+sm                        turn on/off the session-management support
     -/+sp                        turn on/off Sun/PC Function/Keypad mapping
     -/+t                         turn on/off Tek emulation window
     -ti termid                   terminal identifier
     -title string                title string
     -tm string                   terminal mode keywords and characters
     -tn name                     TERM environment variable name
     -/+u8                        turn on/off UTF-8 mode (implies 
wide-characters)
     -/+uc                        turn on/off underline cursor
     -/+ulc                       turn off/on display of underline as color
     -/+ulit                      turn off/on display of underline as 
italics
     -/+ut                        turn on/off utmp support
     -/+vb                        turn on/off visual bell
     -version                     print the version number
     -/+wc                        turn on/off wide-character mode
     -/+wf                        turn on/off wait for map before 
command exec
     -xrm resourcestring          additional resource specifications
     -ziconbeep percent           beep and flag icon of window having 
hidden output

Fonts should be fixed width and, if both normal and bold are specified, 
should
have the same size.  If only a normal font is specified, it will be used for
both normal and bold text (by doing overstriking).  The -e option, if given,
must appear at the end of the command line, otherwise the user's default 
shell
will be started.  Options that start with a plus sign (+) restore the 
default.

======================================================================


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#240032

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2014-04-24 15:32 -0600
Message-ID<wZ-dnZtDGqptH8TOnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#240025
On 4/24/2014 12:52 PM, Lusotec wrote:
> GreyCloud wrote:
>> From another group a fellow did say that UNIX doesn't allow for more
>> than 2 rings... how that is I don't know.
>> And I'm not sure if Linux falls into that same category.
> 
> I have only read some parts of the UNIX specs, so I may be wrong, but I
> would bet UNIX specs make no mention of rings (or similar) at all.

More likely due to legacy code and costs.
I still have the OpenGroup UNIX specs, but it is rather lengthy read.
Most of it always says "optional".  The one spec I did find was the
wording "shall" in regards to the C compiler and an ISO number.  This is
where Apple fell short now in dumping gcc and going for llvm compiler.
Which means Apple OS X is no longer legitimately a UNIX anymore.

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